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Charlie Kirk Today | Libby Emmons: December 19, 2025 | Charlie Kirk Today | December 19, 2025
- Brought to you in part by the
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- International fellowship of christians and jews.
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- Send your prayers for am fest.
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- I think it's going to be one of the most important,
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- Events in recent memory.
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- Certainly it's going to be our first without charlie.
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- And that's really sad.
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- But i also know that,
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- You know,
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- Charlie is going to be there with with us in spirit.
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- The whole event is going to be
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- Gathered around sort of his mission
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- And the legacy and the things that he would want us to do.
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- So if you can't make it, it will be right here on real.
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- America's voice is going to be streaming
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- All the speeches, on real america's voice.
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- Rumble is going to be streaming them online
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- And lots of other things going on.
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- Blake, you,
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- This is going to be what, your third, third or fourth?
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- Fourth.
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- Is it your fourth? yes.
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- First one was end of 22.
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- Yeah. well, so you missed the, you missed the covid?
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- Yeah. i was long before my time.
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- Everybody got covid the first year.
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- Now it's cool to say
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- We have to cover that up because they.
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- Yeah, we did the whole, like, super spreader event.
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- We didn't talk about it too much.
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- Everybody got caught. i did not get covid.
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- You know, the first time i got
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- Covid actually was at our other event,
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- Which was a super spreader event,
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- Which was that was december 2020
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- Before we did an fest,
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- We had student action summit in florida,
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- And i definitely got covid out of it.
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- So i got the og covid at that one.
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- But everybody, you guys need to come check it out.
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- And if you can't make it, then you need to just watch it
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- Right here at real america's voice or stream it on rumble.
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- Blake, let's talk about venezuela.
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- The rope a dope, rope a dope, the rope a dope.
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- They troll this pretty hard on the troll.
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- This really hard.
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- Everybody thought it was gonna be venezuela
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- President if you forgot.
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- If you missed it.
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- President trump said i will be giving
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- An address to the nation at 9 p.m.
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- Tonight.
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- And i think he even said about
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- Things related to my accomplishments
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- This term, i think they did semi announce that.
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- But everyone thought he'd also been hyping up.
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- We had this big armada surrounding venezuela.
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- And then there were people,
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- Tucker actually said he'd heard from a congressman
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- It was going to be announcing a war.
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- And so you just had a lot of speculation about this
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- And the result of it was that he's talking at prime time
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- And all the networks and all the news outlets.
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- They bother to cover it
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- Because you definitely want to get it.
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- If he's announcing a war, and instead
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- He just trots out and talks about his domestic policies.
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- For the past year, it was a it was a listen, i,
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- I have reason to believe that this was intentional.
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- The misdirection was intentional.
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- The question is where people like tucker in on it.
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- I've heard rumors that tucker knew exactly what he was doing.
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- I've heard rumors that they maybe he didn't, i don't know.
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- But anyways,
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- Everybody thought that
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- It was going to be about venezuela
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- And we were going to be invading venezuela.
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- I was just sitting in my, at my computer going, like,
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- That's going to be fun.
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- Everything about am
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- Is now going to be about foreign policy,
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- Which is not at all what we wanted to make it.
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- So the fact that this is what ended up happening was,
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- I think a stroke of, of genius and a masterful touch.
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- Let's go ahead and play some of these clips.
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- 271 next year, you will also see
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- The results of the largest tax cuts in american history.
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- Many families will be saving between
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- 11,000 and $20,000 a year, and next spring
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- Is projected to be the largest tax refund season of all time.
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- Then he talks about warrior dividend.
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- So every
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- Member of our armed forces there's like 1.45 million
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- Of them or.
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- Yeah it's 1717 76 trillion.
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- Hey it's it's better than, better nothing.
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- Yeah.
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- It's i love i love giving, some.
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- It's about $2.5 billion.
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- It's a little bit of the tariff.
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- The tariff revenue.
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- So looks like that's probably going to be
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- What the tariff revenue goes to.
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- I mean, there was a spirited debate
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- In the right
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- About whether or not we should use that money
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- To pay down debt, which i think we should.
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- But, you know, there is a political incentive
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- To give away free money.
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- Let's just be honest. yeah, there there is.
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- And so to do it for the the men and women in the armed
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- Services is actually probably i could, i could settle
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- With that as a, as a threading the needle move.
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- So i'm okay with that.
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- Let's keep going here to 93 when the world looks at us next
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- Year, let them see a nation that is loyal to its citizens,
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- Faithful to its work, is confident to its identity,
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- A certainty to its destiny, and the envy of the entire globe.
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- We are respected
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- Again, like we have never been respected before.
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- You know, you said something earlier this week.
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- I think it was with steve days where you said
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- You looked at china and you were like, well,
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- China, at least you know it's proud of itself.
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- And i really believe that this is when we talk about
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- Saving the west. it's talk it's about
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- Restoring our self
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- Confidence in the greatness of our cultures
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- And the greatness of our heritage.
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- How much of american life
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- Is really on that fulcrum.
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- It pivots on that fulcrum a great deal.
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- It's especially just if you look at what really
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- Goes around in the discourse in university campuses in
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- Especially a lot of the left,
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- But increasingly on the right, too.
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- It's just it actually
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- Frequently is dispirited and anti-american.
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- And that's not
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- An attitude that tolerates any sort of sacrifice
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- For the future, sacrificed for the good of the country.
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- If you if you don't love,
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- If you don't love your family,
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- You probably won't treat them well.
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- And if you don't love your country,
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- You probably won't treat it well either.
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- I totally agree with that.
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- I think that's is the central. the central,
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- I guess, question of the modern age for the west.
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- Do we believe in ourselves and our culture?
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- Do you believe in your country?
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- Do you believe in your country existing,
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- Or do you believe that you are a systemically oppressive
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- And racist and bigoted just for existing?
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- I don't i struggle with approximately zero white guilt.
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- I struggle with approximately zero guilt of being a western
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- Christian straight male zero
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- I got zero.
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- The wounds from october 7th
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- Didn't fade when the headlines did.
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- Behind me rises
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- A new rehabilitation home for israel's wounded soldiers.
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- One of many urgent projects israel needs right now.
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- Entire communities shattered.
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- Families displaced.
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- And each day,
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- The impact of the need grows even more overwhelming.
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- But the bible says it clearly.
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- The righteous will live by faith and by faith.
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- The fellowship is rolling up our sleeves
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- And stepping into this immense challenge.
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- Helping mothers who don't know where to begin again.
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- Standing with paralyzed heroes.
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- Fighting to take their first steps.
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- Building centers of healing for the wounded
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- And the traumatized.
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- Bringing food and comfort to elderly israelis
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- Who have no one else to care for them.
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- To see the life saving work of the fellowship.
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- Unfolding across israel right now.
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- Visit ifc's dawg.
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- Visit ifc's dawg.
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- Blake, i want to hit this story, about this
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- Really sweet lady that,
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- Is that she works at target.
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- She's wearing a charlie kirk show
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- Or a charlie kirk shirt, a red one, because it's target.
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- Apparently, you were able to wear a red shirt to target,
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- And she gets, verbally accosted by this.
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- But this little lady, it's
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- A time traveler from 2020, basically.
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- Yeah, it felt like blm all over.
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- Yeah.
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- Just these awful people and cameras were a mistake.
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- And she for a lot of people, she posted it.
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- She posted it herself.
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- She posted the it's a really okay.
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- So this thought it made her look awesome.
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- This story has many twists and turns.
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- Let's go ahead and play the original, accosting clip.
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- The harassment clip.
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- 222 it doesn't have to be charlie kirk.
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- Sure. yes.
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- Oh yes, i know a stupid no.
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- Why the fuck would you wear that?
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- You're at work at target.
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- That's it, not target.
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- Sure it's not a plain red shirt.
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- When you support a racist,
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- Mean it's not racist.
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- You support a racist.
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- He's not a racist. yes, he is.
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- Yes, he.
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- I'm sorry, but not that you can argue you're not.
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- You should go get your manager.
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- You should not be allowed to wear that at work.
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- Unacceptable.
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- That's your opinion as he's a racist and you support him.
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- That's your opinion and you shouldn't.
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- He should not be allowed to wear that.
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- This is going to be taken above your head.
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- That's insane.
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- And same thing.
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- This is going to be taken above your head.
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- I love how she goes. it's not racist.
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- Okay, have a nice day.
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- I'm not going to sit here and argue that.
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- What a beautiful response to a crazy person.
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- Which oh my god, i mean, just nasty.
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- And, so listen, there was a give and go.
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- I want to give a huge shout out
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- To cassandra fairbanks, who, messaged me about this
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- And let me know that it was even a thing.
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- And then she helped, set up the gibson go.
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- So go ahead and throw up.
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- 289 i actually don't know if this is the number, but
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- They started trying to raise $50,000.
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- Just is just dead. bless this woman.
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- And now it is over $200,000 raised.
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- Let me get the latest amount. yeah.
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- Find the latest amount.
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- And, cassandra fairbanks, you are a good human for doing
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- This and for just, her name is jeannie from target,
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- And it's from chino or something.
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- Anyways, what a sweet, sweet lady.
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- She handled that with such grace and poise.
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- And now somebody has found jeannie
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- And asked her a couple questions, and it.
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- She just keeps winning hearts in mind.
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- Like this is,
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- This is the heartbeat in the core of
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- The character of america.
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- And that's really what i think about it.
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- Jeannie is a sweetheart.
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- 273 you know,
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- People are calling for her to be fired for this.
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- Do you think that. that's right.
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- Would you like that to have.
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- No, i don't think that's.
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- That's right.
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- Like, one thing i have is
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- Two wrongs don't make a right.
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- You know, she wronged me, but i don't want to wrong her
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- Or i don't want to hurt her wrong
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- Because it's not going to make it right. i
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- That was her opinion.
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- She that she's the one that put it on facebook
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- Or put it on on that.
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- So you know, but i,
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- I really wouldn't want to see her
- 00:10:31.213 --> 00:10:33.816
- Somebody lose their job over it.
- 00:10:33.816 --> 00:10:35.884
- Very sweet.
- 00:10:35.884 --> 00:10:36.719
- Current total $220,277.
- 00:10:36.719 --> 00:10:40.022
- I think we took that screengrab this morning and she prepped.
- 00:10:40.022 --> 00:10:42.391
- So it is grown.
- 00:10:42.391 --> 00:10:43.158
- It's still growing.
- 00:10:43.158 --> 00:10:44.126
- And you want
- 00:10:44.126 --> 00:10:45.294
- I see there's a few people they do those parasitic ones
- 00:10:45.294 --> 00:10:47.596
- That might you know aren't the main one.
- 00:10:47.596 --> 00:10:49.098
- Do we have the one you want is the one you want
- 00:10:49.098 --> 00:10:52.634
- Is give, send, go.com/jeannie from target.
- 00:10:52.634 --> 00:10:56.438
- Geena and i jeannie from target.
- 00:10:56.438 --> 00:11:00.209
- It's also the one created by cassandra fairbanks. yep.
- 00:11:00.209 --> 00:11:02.911
- With funds to be received by jeannie beeman.
- 00:11:02.911 --> 00:11:05.147
- And so. well, that's the one you want.
- 00:11:05.147 --> 00:11:06.915
- God bless her.
- 00:11:06.915 --> 00:11:07.816
- She's, and by the way, i she has
- 00:11:07.816 --> 00:11:10.219
- She literally is trying to deny the money.
- 00:11:10.219 --> 00:11:12.488
- And i don't think cassandra is going to let her.
- 00:11:12.488 --> 00:11:14.156
- I know you should show.
- 00:11:14.156 --> 00:11:15.324
- And that's how sweet this woman is.
- 00:11:15.324 --> 00:11:17.059
- She's like, no, no, no, i don't want all this attention.
- 00:11:17.059 --> 00:11:18.861
- I don't want.
- 00:11:18.861 --> 00:11:20.028
- And i think, i think we're sort of winning her over and
- 00:11:20.028 --> 00:11:23.065
- And trying to say, you will accept our love.
- 00:11:23.065 --> 00:11:25.567
- You will accept our love.
- 00:11:25.567 --> 00:11:26.735
- Let us bless you, you sweet lady.
- 00:11:26.735 --> 00:11:29.037
- And i just love that she, first of all, has the courage
- 00:11:29.037 --> 00:11:32.908
- To wear
- 00:11:33.142 --> 00:11:34.276
- A charlie kirk show
- 00:11:34.276 --> 00:11:35.444
- At target in california, in chino, by the way, chino's
- 00:11:35.444 --> 00:11:38.113
- Got a lot of a wingers, right wingers, and it's not.
- 00:11:38.113 --> 00:11:40.449
- It's not a
- 00:11:40.449 --> 00:11:41.717
- It's not like all of california is got no conservatives.
- 00:11:41.717 --> 00:11:44.987
- Chino's got some conservatives. but so she's in there.
- 00:11:44.987 --> 00:11:47.556
- She's wearing the shirt,
- 00:11:47.556 --> 00:11:48.791
- She gets accosted, she gets wronged.
- 00:11:48.791 --> 00:11:50.526
- Gina acknowledged that she wronged me, sure.
- 00:11:50.526 --> 00:11:52.895
- And but she handled it with such grace and dignity.
- 00:11:52.895 --> 00:11:55.697
- And then people are calling for this gal.
- 00:11:55.697 --> 00:11:57.566
- You can show the gibson go again.
- 00:11:57.566 --> 00:11:59.401
- So the gal on the left is the, the woman that, you know,
- 00:11:59.401 --> 00:12:02.971
- With their phone up
- 00:12:02.971 --> 00:12:04.106
- She went and got her, started swearing in her face.
- 00:12:04.106 --> 00:12:07.042
- And i love that it's red v blue too, which is.
- 00:12:07.042 --> 00:12:09.311
- Which is kind of fun.
- 00:12:09.311 --> 00:12:10.279
- So that she's a radical progressive
- 00:12:10.279 --> 00:12:12.214
- Who goes and thinks it's cool to go harass,
- 00:12:12.214 --> 00:12:14.316
- A woman that's probably in her 60s or
- 00:12:14.316 --> 00:12:17.152
- 70s who's minding no business just working a job at target.
- 00:12:17.152 --> 00:12:20.422
- How dare you like, gonna say
- 00:12:20.422 --> 00:12:22.958
- I don't really care enough to go much harder than that?
- 00:12:22.958 --> 00:12:25.427
- Because you. you clown yourself.
- 00:12:25.427 --> 00:12:27.262
- You embarrassed yourself. but god bless you.
- 00:12:27.262 --> 00:12:29.364
- Do you think we'll be able to get her to an office?
- 00:12:29.364 --> 00:12:30.699
- I know tyler said we should try.
- 00:12:30.699 --> 00:12:31.900
- I think we're, we're working on it.
- 00:12:31.900 --> 00:12:34.336
- That's all i'm going to say.
- 00:12:34.336 --> 00:12:35.971
- Who knows?
- 00:12:35.971 --> 00:12:37.005
- Jeannie.
- 00:12:37.005 --> 00:12:37.873
- Jeannie wants to avoid the spotlight,
- 00:12:37.873 --> 00:12:38.874
- And i can appreciate that, but,
- 00:12:38.874 --> 00:12:40.275
- Well, whatever happens, we salute eugenie.
- 00:12:40.275 --> 00:12:42.678
- We love you.
- 00:12:42.678 --> 00:12:43.712
- Thank you so much for the love you show charlie.
- 00:12:43.712 --> 00:12:45.881
- We'll be right back.
- 00:12:45.881 --> 00:12:49.000
- We'll be right back.
- 00:12:49.000 --> 00:12:49.822
- That christmas morning.
- 00:12:50.323 --> 00:12:51.924
- Wise men brought gifts from outside the holy land.
- 00:12:51.924 --> 00:12:56.729
- But now that the war is over,
- 00:12:57.363 --> 00:13:00.366
- This holy land and her people
- 00:13:00.366 --> 00:13:02.268
- Are still carrying deep wounded.
- 00:13:02.268 --> 00:13:05.037
- Many of the elderly are alone and suffering
- 00:13:05.037 --> 00:13:08.708
- Like the wise men or wise women.
- 00:13:09.408 --> 00:13:12.645
- When you open your heart and give a special holiday food
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- Box to someone here in israel
- 00:13:17.316 --> 00:13:20.019
- This christmas chronicles season.
- 00:13:20.019 --> 00:13:23.089
- People like hannah who can't buy food.
- 00:13:23.089 --> 00:13:27.460
- That's where the fellowship is called to feed the hungry.
- 00:13:27.460 --> 00:13:31.697
- Please call, scan or go online now to help rush emergency
- 00:13:31.697 --> 00:13:35.768
- Food and healing to elderly jews
- 00:13:35.768 --> 00:13:37.870
- And their christian neighbors struggling
- 00:13:37.870 --> 00:13:39.639
- To rebuild their lives from the war.
- 00:13:39.639 --> 00:13:41.807
- What will happen when we make this holy day season?
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- Holy indeed.
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- Joining us now is the
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- Great, the wonderful, the excellent, the inquisitive.
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- Libby edmunds, editor
- 00:14:00.693 --> 00:14:02.161
- In chief of the post millennial and human events.
- 00:14:02.161 --> 00:14:04.363
- Welcome, libby to the show.
- 00:14:04.363 --> 00:14:06.098
- It is amp fest day one.
- 00:14:06.098 --> 00:14:07.900
- Are you going to be joining us?
- 00:14:07.900 --> 00:14:10.303
- I sure am.
- 00:14:10.303 --> 00:14:11.037
- I'm here in phoenix right now.
- 00:14:11.037 --> 00:14:12.238
- I'm getting set to go over there.
- 00:14:12.238 --> 00:14:13.806
- I should have had you. i should have had you on set.
- 00:14:13.806 --> 00:14:15.608
- What are we doing here?
- 00:14:15.608 --> 00:14:16.509
- It's it's i don't know, false.
- 00:14:16.509 --> 00:14:19.645
- For what? tomorrow.
- 00:14:19.645 --> 00:14:20.713
- Maybe we'll just have to have you back on again.
- 00:14:20.713 --> 00:14:22.248
- But we'll do do it on set.
- 00:14:22.248 --> 00:14:23.749
- Because there's lots to discuss.
- 00:14:23.749 --> 00:14:25.384
- Libby, i noticed that you were, you know,
- 00:14:25.384 --> 00:14:29.822
- Tweeting about, this
- 00:14:30.289 --> 00:14:33.492
- What is quickly becoming
- 00:14:33.492 --> 00:14:36.195
- Probably one of the most bungled,
- 00:14:36.195 --> 00:14:37.897
- Or at least apparently
- 00:14:37.897 --> 00:14:38.931
- Incompetent investigations i've ever seen.
- 00:14:38.931 --> 00:14:40.833
- It really is. and that's the brown shooting.
- 00:14:40.833 --> 00:14:42.802
- So could you just bring us up to speed?
- 00:14:42.802 --> 00:14:46.105
- Where are we at now? and what do we need to know?
- 00:14:46.105 --> 00:14:48.841
- Well, so far, i believe we are at nowhere.
- 00:14:49.742 --> 00:14:52.778
- We are exactly where we were shortly after the shooting.
- 00:14:52.778 --> 00:14:56.382
- The police don't really seem to have any leads.
- 00:14:56.382 --> 00:14:58.851
- They don't seem to have, any real information to go on.
- 00:14:58.851 --> 00:15:02.688
- Every time you watch
- 00:15:02.688 --> 00:15:03.756
- One of these press conferences,
- 00:15:03.756 --> 00:15:05.091
- Which they deliver every evening from providence,
- 00:15:05.091 --> 00:15:07.727
- They tell you how the police are not demoralized
- 00:15:07.727 --> 00:15:10.629
- And they're doing a great job,
- 00:15:10.629 --> 00:15:11.831
- And everyone's working together.
- 00:15:11.831 --> 00:15:13.232
- And once they crack the case, it'll crack wide open.
- 00:15:13.232 --> 00:15:16.168
- But nothing seems to be happening.
- 00:15:16.168 --> 00:15:17.770
- They released their first person of interest.
- 00:15:17.770 --> 00:15:20.373
- Then there was another person of interest
- 00:15:20.373 --> 00:15:22.742
- That they have been looking for,
- 00:15:22.742 --> 00:15:24.243
- And they're looking for another person of interest.
- 00:15:24.243 --> 00:15:26.679
- They can't seem to find anybody.
- 00:15:26.679 --> 00:15:28.214
- They don't really give any information about it.
- 00:15:28.214 --> 00:15:30.349
- Last night, when they were being asked
- 00:15:30.349 --> 00:15:32.385
- By the press about this person of interest,
- 00:15:32.385 --> 00:15:34.086
- They could not even say whether or not
- 00:15:34.086 --> 00:15:36.022
- It was a man or a woman that they were looking for.
- 00:15:36.022 --> 00:15:38.824
- So that's kind of a big thing.
- 00:15:38.824 --> 00:15:41.360
- And then one thing that i found really, really shocking
- 00:15:41.360 --> 00:15:44.430
- Is that
- 00:15:44.430 --> 00:15:45.498
- They have not even interviewed all of the students
- 00:15:45.498 --> 00:15:47.700
- That were in the classroom at the time of the shooting.
- 00:15:47.700 --> 00:15:50.436
- They have they say that they have been,
- 00:15:50.436 --> 00:15:52.438
- The police say they have been working
- 00:15:52.438 --> 00:15:53.806
- With brown university
- 00:15:53.806 --> 00:15:55.107
- To get the names of those individuals
- 00:15:55.107 --> 00:15:56.942
- And to get in contact with them,
- 00:15:56.942 --> 00:15:58.778
- But that brown has sent out an email to this to all students
- 00:15:58.778 --> 00:16:02.381
- Saying, hey,
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- If you were in this classroom for this study session,
- 00:16:03.516 --> 00:16:05.751
- Let us know so you can talk to police.
- 00:16:05.751 --> 00:16:07.720
- But police have not talked to all of those students,
- 00:16:07.720 --> 00:16:10.222
- And they don't even know who all of them were.
- 00:16:10.222 --> 00:16:12.992
- And in the press conference yesterday,
- 00:16:12.992 --> 00:16:14.393
- They wouldn't even say
- 00:16:14.393 --> 00:16:15.494
- What kind of gun was used because they are worried
- 00:16:15.494 --> 00:16:18.330
- That that would influence the answers of the students
- 00:16:18.330 --> 00:16:21.667
- When they eventually get around to talking to them.
- 00:16:21.667 --> 00:16:24.870
- Yeah.
- 00:16:25.104 --> 00:16:25.471
- So the the
- 00:16:25.471 --> 00:16:27.706
- They i mean, how do they not have all the students
- 00:16:27.706 --> 00:16:31.043
- In the actual scene of the crime
- 00:16:31.043 --> 00:16:33.379
- And they're sending out emails asking for, i mean,
- 00:16:33.379 --> 00:16:36.182
- How is that even a thing?
- 00:16:36.749 --> 00:16:38.784
- You would think, how is that even possible?
- 00:16:38.784 --> 00:16:40.920
- Yeah. go ahead. is that even possible?
- 00:16:40.920 --> 00:16:43.255
- How do they not know like go.
- 00:16:43.255 --> 00:16:45.324
- They were on the crime scene shortly after the shooting.
- 00:16:45.324 --> 00:16:48.194
- The, the the whole school was in shelter
- 00:16:48.194 --> 00:16:50.863
- In place, locked down until the morning on sunday.
- 00:16:50.863 --> 00:16:54.033
- And they didn't stop to say, hey, let's talk
- 00:16:54.033 --> 00:16:56.001
- To every single person in that classroom.
- 00:16:56.001 --> 00:16:57.970
- Instead, they took in a person of interest.
- 00:16:57.970 --> 00:16:59.972
- They went, searched his hotel room, whatever.
- 00:16:59.972 --> 00:17:02.208
- Sunday night that person was released,
- 00:17:02.208 --> 00:17:04.143
- Brown had already shut down the campus
- 00:17:04.143 --> 00:17:05.744
- Till the end of the term and sent everybody home.
- 00:17:05.744 --> 00:17:08.447
- So now all they can do is like,
- 00:17:08.447 --> 00:17:10.149
- Hope that they can get out to peoria
- 00:17:10.149 --> 00:17:12.051
- Or whatever and get in touch
- 00:17:12.051 --> 00:17:13.352
- With the students who were in the room.
- 00:17:13.352 --> 00:17:15.121
- And there is also indications and this is not something
- 00:17:15.121 --> 00:17:18.124
- Police have really said,
- 00:17:18.124 --> 00:17:19.125
- But there's indications that it was
- 00:17:19.125 --> 00:17:20.793
- Just the one student who was intentionally targeted.
- 00:17:20.793 --> 00:17:23.395
- We don't seem to have any answers on that.
- 00:17:23.395 --> 00:17:26.499
- And that would seem to be
- 00:17:26.499 --> 00:17:28.501
- A huge indication of who the suspect might be
- 00:17:28.501 --> 00:17:32.138
- If you knew who it was that they were targeting.
- 00:17:32.138 --> 00:17:34.707
- But there's absolutely nothing this ag
- 00:17:34.707 --> 00:17:37.409
- Peter narayana, he seems like a total fool.
- 00:17:37.409 --> 00:17:40.579
- He just goes out there and he's like, oh,
- 00:17:40.579 --> 00:17:42.314
- The cops are doing a great job.
- 00:17:42.314 --> 00:17:43.682
- And the cops are like, yeah,
- 00:17:43.682 --> 00:17:44.817
- We don't really have any answers.
- 00:17:44.817 --> 00:17:46.418
- And they're encouraging the public to come forward
- 00:17:46.418 --> 00:17:48.754
- And give any information that they have.
- 00:17:48.754 --> 00:17:50.990
- But as soon as the public says
- 00:17:50.990 --> 00:17:52.324
- Anything on twitter, they get yelled at.
- 00:17:52.324 --> 00:17:54.393
- You know, i mean, what is going on?
- 00:17:54.393 --> 00:17:56.795
- This guy is clearly just going to get away at this point.
- 00:17:56.795 --> 00:17:59.932
- It's been, what, five days?
- 00:17:59.932 --> 00:18:02.001
- Rhode island is a small state.
- 00:18:02.001 --> 00:18:03.636
- There's no reason to believe he's stolen state.
- 00:18:03.636 --> 00:18:05.571
- There's no reason to believe he's still in the country.
- 00:18:05.571 --> 00:18:07.506
- They have found, live rounds.
- 00:18:07.506 --> 00:18:10.276
- They're hoping to get dna off this.
- 00:18:10.276 --> 00:18:11.577
- 275, but i can tell you from
- 00:18:11.577 --> 00:18:13.412
- My sourcing is that i think quite significantly,
- 00:18:13.412 --> 00:18:16.949
- They have live rounds that is, rounds
- 00:18:16.949 --> 00:18:20.419
- That were not fired on detonated rounds.
- 00:18:20.419 --> 00:18:22.888
- Live rounds at the scene, i think is a hopeful sign
- 00:18:22.888 --> 00:18:26.425
- For getting usable dna, even if he's not in the database.
- 00:18:26.425 --> 00:18:29.962
- Remember, they can use that familial
- 00:18:29.962 --> 00:18:32.298
- Dna technique that we saw in the cobra case.
- 00:18:32.298 --> 00:18:35.467
- It gets to a cousin or something.
- 00:18:35.467 --> 00:18:36.936
- You work back from there.
- 00:18:36.936 --> 00:18:38.304
- So i think that's a positive sign for the investigation.
- 00:18:38.304 --> 00:18:41.106
- And i can tell you this scraping very hard at it,
- 00:18:41.106 --> 00:18:43.475
- So we were bullying the police.
- 00:18:43.475 --> 00:18:44.710
- But really the focus needs to be, i think
- 00:18:44.710 --> 00:18:47.813
- Heavily on brown here that they're not.
- 00:18:47.813 --> 00:18:50.749
- It's clear that the police are requesting this information.
- 00:18:50.749 --> 00:18:53.018
- And it seems i'll be frank,
- 00:18:53.018 --> 00:18:54.520
- It seems like brown doesn't care
- 00:18:54.520 --> 00:18:56.288
- About catching a person who murdered two of their students.
- 00:18:56.288 --> 00:18:59.525
- Yeah, and that's a fair point.
- 00:18:59.525 --> 00:19:01.493
- So brown was caught sort of scrubbing their web
- 00:19:01.493 --> 00:19:04.797
- Pages of a certain person.
- 00:19:04.797 --> 00:19:06.332
- Again,
- 00:19:06.332 --> 00:19:07.233
- We're not going to mention this person
- 00:19:07.233 --> 00:19:08.467
- Because we
- 00:19:08.467 --> 00:19:09.668
- We don't know if this person is actually guilty of anything
- 00:19:09.668 --> 00:19:12.271
- Or involved at all, but they were caught scrubbing,
- 00:19:12.271 --> 00:19:14.873
- A muslim, student who went by he they pronouns.
- 00:19:14.873 --> 00:19:18.777
- There's,
- 00:19:18.777 --> 00:19:19.912
- There's who has a sort of portly shape portly person
- 00:19:19.912 --> 00:19:22.815
- And the first person of interest,
- 00:19:22.815 --> 00:19:24.316
- They had a portly shape.
- 00:19:24.316 --> 00:19:25.684
- Look like it could be a match.
- 00:19:25.684 --> 00:19:27.486
- What do we know?
- 00:19:27.486 --> 00:19:28.921
- And then they get this other person of interest.
- 00:19:28.921 --> 00:19:30.756
- Are we supposed to assume there was multiple people involved?
- 00:19:30.756 --> 00:19:33.192
- Or is that first person of interest now
- 00:19:33.192 --> 00:19:34.627
- No longer a person of interest?
- 00:19:34.627 --> 00:19:35.894
- Like, what's going on here? what do we know about this?
- 00:19:35.894 --> 00:19:38.530
- So they indicate
- 00:19:38.530 --> 00:19:39.665
- After the first person of interest was released,
- 00:19:39.665 --> 00:19:41.734
- They came up with a second
- 00:19:41.734 --> 00:19:42.701
- Person of interest
- 00:19:42.701 --> 00:19:43.636
- Was likely a suspect
- 00:19:43.636 --> 00:19:45.170
- When they were questioned about it,
- 00:19:45.170 --> 00:19:46.639
- And now they are looking for, in fact,
- 00:19:46.639 --> 00:19:48.107
- A third person of interest
- 00:19:48.107 --> 00:19:49.608
- Who may know the the second person of interest.
- 00:19:49.608 --> 00:19:52.811
- So that is, sort of the timeline.
- 00:19:52.811 --> 00:19:55.447
- They won't tell us if any of these people
- 00:19:55.447 --> 00:19:57.616
- Have a specific gender, or maybe they better know
- 00:19:57.616 --> 00:20:00.286
- If it has a specific gender identity. who knows?
- 00:20:00.286 --> 00:20:02.855
- But yeah, then they were caught scrubbing the pages
- 00:20:02.855 --> 00:20:05.491
- Of this one student.
- 00:20:05.491 --> 00:20:06.825
- And then sort of surprisingly, what they did is they came out
- 00:20:06.825 --> 00:20:09.828
- In a press conference again, this was the tuesday one.
- 00:20:09.828 --> 00:20:12.231
- They came out in a press conference
- 00:20:12.231 --> 00:20:13.599
- Shaming everyone for, for for looking around for who?
- 00:20:13.599 --> 00:20:17.303
- This person of interest.
- 00:20:17.303 --> 00:20:18.537
- You know, number two could be.
- 00:20:18.537 --> 00:20:20.706
- And they were like, hey, you know, you're doxing people.
- 00:20:20.706 --> 00:20:23.809
- You're talking about people.
- 00:20:23.809 --> 00:20:25.210
- How dare you implicate anybody at all?
- 00:20:25.210 --> 00:20:29.114
- Meanwhile, hey, send us all your tips.
- 00:20:29.114 --> 00:20:31.684
- Let us know what you're seeing.
- 00:20:31.684 --> 00:20:33.018
- We have no idea who this is,
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- But don't talk about it amongst yourselves.
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- Just come talk to the police about it.
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- So that seems a little irresponsible as well.
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- And, on the press conference yesterday,
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- They were saying, hey, there's ai images being shared.
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- These are not accurate.
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- We have a folder online.
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- You can look at all of the images that we have.
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- But i think
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- The fact of the matter is that the public would not
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- Be so interested and determined and trying to find out
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- Any information conceivable about this shooter.
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- If the police and brown university
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- Were more forthcoming or had perhaps, identified a suspect
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- Of some kind, you know, i mean, people want to know who
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- The shooter is, who wandered on to this brown campus, managed
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- To get into a secure facility and opened fire on students.
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- They want to know who that is. parents want to know.
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- The community wants to know.
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- Do we know?
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- Are we closer to getting them to confirm that?
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- Why the reticence? they just simply don't know.
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- I don't think we can know until they've caught a suspect.
- 00:21:28.941 --> 00:21:31.577
- Well, it does it seem like this person walked into the room
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- And targeted ella cook directly?
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- Multiple shots, i think maybe even eight shots or something.
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- And that the reporting from poso is that the other
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- Victims in the room were just incidental to that.
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- So again, we don't know.
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- I can't confirm that.
- 00:21:49.995 --> 00:21:51.029
- Again, i'm just saying that's one report,
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- That seems to make
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- At least some sense and why that's important.
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- If we know that she
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- Was targeted, then that tells us a lot about motivation.
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- That tells us who we should be looking for.
- 00:22:01.240 --> 00:22:03.175
- I mean, that a lot hinges on that.
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- So if there's any indication that that would be true,
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- We need to know that.
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- Yeah.
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- And also if, ella cook was directly targeted
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- And she was targeted by, you know,
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- Someone who was affiliated with the university
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- Because otherwise why would they be there?
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- How would they have gotten in?
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- You could imagine that there would have been
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- Social media chatter between that person and miss cook,
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- Or that person condemning things that miss cook had said.
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- Because yeah,
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- I totally,
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- As this year draws to an end,
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- I'd like to express my
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- Heartfelt gratitude to our partners, the fellowship
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