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Charlie Kirk Today | Mark Halperin: January 28, 2026 | Charlie Kirk Today | January 28, 2026
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- International fellowship of christians and jews.
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- Excited about this next guest.
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- He's a contrarian.
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- He's a filmmaker. he's an author, is a historian.
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- We had him on when, i think in the campaign season
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- Quite a bit with charlie, ahead of 2024.
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- And he had a way of looking at
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- Things that will make you think.
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- And if you are prepared
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- Or willing to black pill right now, don't,
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- Because there's actually things you need to be looking at
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- That will give you hope, optimism,
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- Whether that's the midterms
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- Heading into 2028 about deportation.
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- That's larry schweikert, the real larry schweikert.
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- Again, he's an author, historian,
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- Phd, new york times number one bestselling author,
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- Filmmaker, rock drummer, america's history teacher.
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- Larry, welcome back to the show.
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- You know, don't forget the rock drummer part.
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- That's really important.
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- A study came out today showing that bison
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- Are returning to the illinois prairie to drumming.
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- I thought, okay, about time, bison, i need to yep.
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- Bison.
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- For the first time in 200 wild bison.
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- Yeah, i don't know.
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- Probably leaving minnesota because it's so crazy,
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- But you know. right.
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- They're avoiding.
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- I'm just thinking of driving.
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- I don't want to. man.
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- Hitting a bison would probably. really?
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- Yeah, i think about that sometimes as well.
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- You know, like
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- I sort of bemoan the loss of of the real west, the frontier.
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- But then i think, you know, i'm, you know, contending with
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- Grizzly bears and actual wolves and, bison would not be.
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- I'm a german by heritage, so i feel that, like, deep
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- Deepness in my soul.
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- If you fly over like europe and you see everything
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- Subdivided into little plots
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- Of, like, developed land, so we conquered the west.
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- I like going to south dakota and just seen agriculture
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- As far as the eye can see
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- The conservation, especially because it
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- Keeps lips from moving there.
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- Well that's true, well, open carry gives it
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- Keeps wolves from moving there, too.
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- Larry, i, i love the way your mind works.
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- You and i spoke, briefly on the phone last, last week.
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- So, i mean, there's a lot of doom tourism happening.
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- There's a lot of black pilling,
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- Especially with, you know,
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- You look at minneapolis, it's basically a war zone.
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- You have a different way
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- Of seeing what's happening right now in the country.
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- Give us your 30,000ft view.
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- Are you optimistic? are you pessimist?
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- What are you thinking? what are you seeing?
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- Well, i think a lot of concern is over the 2026
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- Midterms and i'm not concerned.
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- Today, eleanor holmes norton of dc announced her retirement.
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- She is democrat number 25 to do so.
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- Now. last year, a whole bunch of republicans
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- Announced their retirements, and i'm not sure why.
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- A lot of them were older.
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- A lot of them were anti trumpers.
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- And i said, just wait, the democrats will catch up.
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- And so far the number is 30 hours and now 25 days.
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- And i think some of those hours have already been replaced
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- Or are being replaced like marjorie taylor greene.
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- So i think when all the redistricting is done,
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- The republicans are going to
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- Have a 4 or 5 seat lock on the house
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- Because there are just not enough tossup states
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- To make a difference.
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- The republicans are already sitting at around
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- 210 to 212 solid, safe seats.
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- And so when you look at all the redistricting
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- And so forth, you're probably already over 218.
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- In terms of voter registration,
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- This has been moving toward republicans for almost 18
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- Straight months, and democrats have no answer for this.
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- So they kept saying, we'll wait till 2026
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- And the numbers start to come out.
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- Well, we had arizona's number,
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- Arizona's first out of the gate for 2026.
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- And guess what?
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- Every single county in arizona moved to the right,
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- Including pima, which has lost almost one full percent
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- Of its democrat lead in the last, year and a half.
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- So these are staggering numbers.
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- You can't find one state where democrats
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- Are consistently putting up any winning numbers.
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- They're all moving
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- To republicans to the point that in north carolina,
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- That state became a red state last month.
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- It's astounding.
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- It was democrat plus 175,000
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- In 2025.
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- 2024.
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- Florida obviously is now off the charts.
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- It's 1.4 million republicans, advantage.
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- But every state where we can measure it is moving.
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- Right.
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- And i think that's a terrifying omen, for democrats.
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- So you go up to minnesota and i've harped on this.
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- I think minnesota is ground zero
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- For breaking the entire democrat party,
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- The voter fraud and and the, obviously
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- The illegal immigration fraud up there.
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- I think that its tentacles, stretch to every other state,
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- But particularly to california, which is the big enchilada.
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- That'll be the one to be targeted after minnesota falls.
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- And nobody's given up.
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- Nobody's backing down. i love to see it.
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- Despite all the hand-wringing rhinos and all the democrats
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- Calling for a government shutdown, nobody is backing up.
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- Where do you, what's your vibe on the independents
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- When it comes specifically to this topic of immigration?
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- If anybody's going to get
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- Weak on it,
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- If they're going to give in to the sob stories,
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- I think the conservative base
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- Has developed antibodies
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- And immunities from the same
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- Old tactics of the, you know, the left wing ink
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- That gets spilled.
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- Oh, you know, this is terrible.
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- Obama comes out
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- With this statement talking about masked, agents.
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- And they're rightly upset.
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- And we need to
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- Our our values are under assault more than ever before.
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- Republicans don't hear that stuff.
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- They look at that and they and they rightly are skeptical.
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- They rightly push back independents.
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- Where are they at on immigration?
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- They are probably far more susceptible
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- To these kinds of heart stirring messages.
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- But the good news is
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- That independents are all over the map in terms of
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- What is the most important issue to them, because usually
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- It almost always comes down to the economy,
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- And so is the economy.
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- As it has already done, continues to pick up.
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- You start to see more and more jobs.
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- Prices continue to fall.
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- And by, say, mid-summer, everything is looking
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- Really good in terms of the economy.
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- Believe me, the number one
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- Issue for independents is not going to be immigration
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- Or what's happening in minnesota.
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- It's going to be on the the economy's pretty good.
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- I'm not going to mess that up.
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- Yeah.
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- So the good news about indies is they are not wedded
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- To a single,
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- Issue the way either the left or the right is.
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- Yeah.
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- I think that's a smart analysis there, larry.
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- Got to hit a break.
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- We'll be back with larry schweikert, historian, phd,
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- Number one, new york times bestselling author.
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- We'll be right back.
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- The wounds from
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- October 7th didn't fade when the headlines did.
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- Behind me rises
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- A new rehabilitation home for israel's wounded soldiers.
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- One of many urgent projects israel needs right now.
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- Entire communities shattered.
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- Families displaced.
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- And each day,
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- The impact of the need grows even more overwhelming.
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- But the bible says it clearly.
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- The righteous will live by faith and by faith.
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- The fellowship is rolling up our sleeves
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- And stepping into this immense challenge.
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- Helping mothers who don't know where to begin again.
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- Standing with paralyzed heroes.
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- Fighting to take their first steps.
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- Building centers of healing for the wounded
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- And the traumatized.
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- Bringing food and comfort to elderly israelis
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- Who have no one else to care for them.
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- To see the life saving work of the fellowship.
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- Unfolding across israel right now.
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- Visit ifc's dawg.
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- Visit ifc's dawg.
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- Larry, i got two questions for you.
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- You mentioned the economy and that
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- That is a huge piece of the pie here, especially for indies.
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- The problem is if you just look at historical precedent,
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- You're a historian.
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- You know, the the you look at bush,
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- The recession ended in the spring of 91.
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- He lost the election in 92.
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- You've got inflation from joe biden.
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- That is i mean, you still go to the store.
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- It's obscene when you try and feed a family.
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- Those prices are not going to drop all the way back
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- To their pre, you know, 2020 levels
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- Emotionally.
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- Or is the electorate,
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- Do we have enough time to sort of see those gains
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- And that growth in the gdp and real wages
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- Catch up with inflation
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- To the point where we get electorally rewarded?
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- Yeah, i think i think so.
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- Not all prices are falling, but i can look at my gas price
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- On the corner.
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- It's already dropped by 50 or $0.60 since the last year.
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- And we have gas from california, which is always 20
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- Or $0.30 higher.
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- The stickiest part of all
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- Prices is not the grocery store,
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- Although that's still a little bit high, but it's in housing
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- And we have this, disconnect in the housing market
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- That is partially due to having illegals, involved
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- In the entire housing market, all that kind of stuff.
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- The tariffs are going to kick in, all those investments
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- That the foreigners made last year
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- And promised to trump are starting to break ground.
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- So yeah, i think enough is going to change that.
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- It will affect the, independent voters.
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- And we don't need a lot.
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- We don't need to win them by 5 or 6 points.
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- We need to win them by one point.
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- Because, as i say, the republicans are winning
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- The voter registration game almost everywhere.
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- So yeah, and i'm looking at some numbers here.
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- 275 if you want to throw it up.
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- But it looks like,
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- You know,
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- We're getting good numbers on transportation, utilities,
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- But education, housing, health care,
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- Having a family, those are all tricky, right?
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- And those are not
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- Those are not numbers that you can move quickly.
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- But i, i hope you're right.
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- Listen, if we put up a few more numbers of 4.5%
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- Gdp growth, 5%, i mean, that would be amazing.
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- I can't remember the last time we saw numbers that high.
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- I do believe that's going to have a psychological impact.
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- Second question for you,
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- Larry, though, is this redistricting,
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- If you would go,
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- We got four minutes left in this segment. go through
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- A couple of the states that you're watching.
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- Obviously, we gained some in florida,
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- Texas, we lost some in california.
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- That's getting challenged in the courts.
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- You think we're going to be 210 to 12 safe
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- Republican districts? and are those really safe?
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- Because i hope those models aren't
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- Looking at, like, you know, hispanic votes from 2024
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- Because we're losing
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- We've lost a little bit of ground off those numbers.
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- Well, the, the
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- Constantly shifting redistricting numbers,
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- Show that north carolina has added two red,
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- Ohio's added two red, texas has added five red,
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- Missouri's added one red, kansas supposedly is going to
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- Redistrict will add one red florida will redistrict.
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- They will add between 2 to 3 red.
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- You've then seen one lost seat in
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- Utah due to the court decision there.
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- So that's one blue.
- 00:11:45.362 --> 00:11:46.630
- You have arguably five in california.
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- But as you mentioned that's been challenge.
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- And california's a little tricky because in
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- Order to get those districts they've had to, cannibalize
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- Some very, very close democrat districts.
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- So i don't think it's a given that all five of those, end up
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- In republican in democrat hands or i don't think it's
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- They may get all five of those and lose 1 or 2 others.
- 00:12:10.187 --> 00:12:12.756
- So i don't think it's necessarily a net gain of five
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- In and california for democrats.
- 00:12:15.859 --> 00:12:18.562
- Indiana was a disappointment.
- 00:12:18.562 --> 00:12:20.096
- These people are just idiots.
- 00:12:20.096 --> 00:12:21.364
- I don't know what else you can say about them.
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- When i go through
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- All the numbers and again, they keep shifting.
- 00:12:25.268 --> 00:12:27.003
- I look at the gop gaining between, two
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- And four more seats in redistricting,
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- Which would put us up in the neighborhood of two, 16 to 17.
- 00:12:33.410 --> 00:12:38.481
- But then you
- 00:12:38.481 --> 00:12:39.416
- Have the elephant in the room, which is the
- 00:12:39.416 --> 00:12:41.218
- Racial redistricting decision coming from the supreme court.
- 00:12:41.218 --> 00:12:45.021
- And what no one can answer me.
- 00:12:45.021 --> 00:12:46.623
- And i've asked this to my court guru, zen master,
- 00:12:46.623 --> 00:12:49.626
- I've asked it to, other people who deal with the court.
- 00:12:49.626 --> 00:12:53.029
- How many of the racial redistricting seats
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- Are going to be covered
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- In the seats that have already been
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- Redistricted in many of these states?
- 00:13:00.704 --> 00:13:02.639
- So nobody can give me an answer on that.
- 00:13:02.639 --> 00:13:04.941
- Louisiana does plan to redistrict.
- 00:13:04.941 --> 00:13:07.244
- That'll be another red seat.
- 00:13:07.244 --> 00:13:09.145
- So let's
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- Assume we pick up 2 or 3 from the racial redistricting.
- 00:13:10.280 --> 00:13:13.416
- You're over 218 right there.
- 00:13:13.416 --> 00:13:15.785
- Now, how many are safe?
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- Save, save.
- 00:13:16.920 --> 00:13:17.554
- I'm just going by cook.
- 00:13:17.554 --> 00:13:19.623
- And i think cook is probably a little pessimistic
- 00:13:19.623 --> 00:13:22.092
- For republicans of cook two saying 210 to 212 safe.
- 00:13:22.092 --> 00:13:26.329
- I think that's a pretty good starting point.
- 00:13:26.329 --> 00:13:28.231
- Larry schweikert, thank you for the white pill.
- 00:13:28.231 --> 00:13:30.533
- Now we're going to have mark halperin on for the black pill.
- 00:13:30.533 --> 00:13:33.336
- So little yin and yang, little to and fro.
- 00:13:33.336 --> 00:13:35.872
- We'll be right back.
- 00:13:35.872 --> 00:13:41.645
- Where are
- 00:13:41.945 --> 00:13:43.213
- The tears from the pain.
- 00:13:43.213 --> 00:13:45.548
- The life that she lived.
- 00:13:45.548 --> 00:13:47.684
- She's a survivor of auschwitz.
- 00:13:47.684 --> 00:13:51.121
- The years that they would just beat her ears.
- 00:13:51.121 --> 00:13:53.890
- That she didn't have food and felt hungry.
- 00:13:53.890 --> 00:13:57.193
- And our answer is love.
- 00:13:57.694 --> 00:14:00.931
- Before, with a gift of only $25.
- 00:14:00.931 --> 00:14:04.134
- You'll deliver a life saving food box into the hands
- 00:14:04.134 --> 00:14:07.304
- Of an elderly jew in need.
- 00:14:07.304 --> 00:14:10.040
- I wasn't only saying people have a heart.
- 00:14:10.040 --> 00:14:13.043
- There are good people today.
- 00:14:13.043 --> 00:14:14.844
- Call, scan or go online now.
- 00:14:14.844 --> 00:14:17.614
- And the international
- 00:14:17.614 --> 00:14:18.748
- Fellowship of christians
- 00:14:18.748 --> 00:14:20.016
- And jews will rush your food box today saudi arabia.
- 00:14:20.016 --> 00:14:23.887
- This is a holy moment.
- 00:14:23.887 --> 00:14:25.655
- What you're doing is not simply being kind.
- 00:14:25.655 --> 00:14:29.059
- You are prophetically stepping into the scriptures
- 00:14:29.059 --> 00:14:32.896
- And being part of their redemption and our own.
- 00:14:32.896 --> 00:14:36.399
- Please call, scan or go online now.
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- Please call, scan or go online now.
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- Mark halperin joins us now.
- 00:14:45.711 --> 00:14:48.213
- Mark, the
- 00:14:48.213 --> 00:14:49.748
- There's going to be and we're going
- 00:14:49.748 --> 00:14:50.849
- To talk about this every time.
- 00:14:50.849 --> 00:14:51.917
- You probably come on for the rest of the year here.
- 00:14:51.917 --> 00:14:53.585
- But you know,
- 00:14:53.585 --> 00:14:54.720
- Everything is sort of angling towards midterms right.
- 00:14:54.720 --> 00:14:57.923
- You can feel that this is why we always encourage
- 00:14:57.923 --> 00:15:00.258
- Have courage, during the off cycle years.
- 00:15:00.258 --> 00:15:03.962
- That's when you need to be aggressive
- 00:15:03.962 --> 00:15:05.697
- Because you're gonna get a lot
- 00:15:05.697 --> 00:15:06.498
- Of these weak kneed republicans.
- 00:15:06.498 --> 00:15:07.733
- You're going to get these moderates.
- 00:15:07.733 --> 00:15:09.067
- You're seeing lisa murkowski.
- 00:15:09.067 --> 00:15:10.569
- You're seeing governor stitt already
- 00:15:10.569 --> 00:15:12.237
- Sort of blink on this, minneapolis.
- 00:15:12.237 --> 00:15:15.407
- Maybe we're going to see
- 00:15:15.407 --> 00:15:16.475
- A messaging pivot from the white house.
- 00:15:16.475 --> 00:15:20.112
- But there are larger themes happening, right?
- 00:15:20.112 --> 00:15:23.382
- You've got economic news, you've got president trump
- 00:15:23.382 --> 00:15:26.218
- At davos, you've got foreign, policy
- 00:15:26.218 --> 00:15:29.321
- Disputes, you got greenland, you got venezuela.
- 00:15:29.321 --> 00:15:32.324
- What does the president need to do in your opinion?
- 00:15:32.324 --> 00:15:35.527
- You said you said take this off the front page
- 00:15:35.527 --> 00:15:38.964
- And and kind of pivot to the next thing.
- 00:15:38.964 --> 00:15:41.166
- What do you if you were in the room,
- 00:15:41.166 --> 00:15:42.868
- What would you recommend the president do next?
- 00:15:42.868 --> 00:15:45.771
- Well, couple things.
- 00:15:46.238 --> 00:15:47.839
- First of all, i think governor
- 00:15:47.839 --> 00:15:50.709
- Stitt would laugh if he said he was a moderate
- 00:15:50.709 --> 00:15:53.445
- Governor of oklahoma.
- 00:15:53.445 --> 00:15:54.279
- I've met governor stitt, by the way.
- 00:15:54.279 --> 00:15:56.248
- You think he's a moderate
- 00:15:56.248 --> 00:15:57.482
- When he goes on cnn and says, what are we really doing here?
- 00:15:57.482 --> 00:16:00.619
- Yeah, he's he's by the way, i never will trust mark.
- 00:16:00.619 --> 00:16:03.655
- Call me a cynic.
- 00:16:03.655 --> 00:16:04.556
- I will never trust a, governor or senator
- 00:16:04.556 --> 00:16:08.126
- That's already said.
- 00:16:08.126 --> 00:16:09.227
- I'm i'm, you know, i'm not running again or, you know,
- 00:16:09.227 --> 00:16:11.263
- Listen, you never know what kind
- 00:16:11.263 --> 00:16:12.998
- Of, and i'm not accusing governor stitt of this,
- 00:16:12.998 --> 00:16:15.133
- But i've seen it too many times.
- 00:16:15.133 --> 00:16:16.635
- You know what?
- 00:16:16.635 --> 00:16:17.502
- Gig are they angling for next?
- 00:16:17.502 --> 00:16:19.938
- What? rubber chicken dinner
- 00:16:19.938 --> 00:16:21.106
- Do they want to get invited to next? it's all i'll say.
- 00:16:21.106 --> 00:16:23.508
- For all i know, he wants to be abby.
- 00:16:23.508 --> 00:16:24.743
- Abby phillips, maine substitute host.
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- Yeah.
- 00:16:26.978 --> 00:16:28.080
- Okay, so again, i say this for suspect.
- 00:16:28.080 --> 00:16:30.949
- I'm not a political analyst or a political reporter.
- 00:16:30.949 --> 00:16:33.819
- I'm an american analyst or american reporter.
- 00:16:33.819 --> 00:16:36.621
- And i think to just relentlessly
- 00:16:36.621 --> 00:16:38.490
- Focus on the midterms again, i say with respect
- 00:16:38.490 --> 00:16:40.559
- Is not the right thing for the country.
- 00:16:40.559 --> 00:16:42.427
- Even in an election year,
- 00:16:42.427 --> 00:16:43.795
- The president's job is to is to do is to do
- 00:16:43.795 --> 00:16:46.465
- Well in the midterms
- 00:16:46.465 --> 00:16:47.699
- By doing good things for the american people.
- 00:16:47.699 --> 00:16:49.568
- Same with congress. same with governor waltz.
- 00:16:49.568 --> 00:16:51.837
- So the focus should not be, i think, on sort of the tactics
- 00:16:51.837 --> 00:16:56.541
- And the fundraising, at least not yet.
- 00:16:56.541 --> 00:16:58.844
- This is,
- 00:16:58.844 --> 00:17:00.078
- Hurting the president's poll numbers,
- 00:17:00.078 --> 00:17:01.947
- And it's hurting the brand of the republican party.
- 00:17:01.947 --> 00:17:04.015
- And it's hurting maga
- 00:17:04.015 --> 00:17:05.217
- Because people don't like what they're seeing,
- 00:17:05.217 --> 00:17:07.452
- And they don't like what they're seeing, because it rubs
- 00:17:07.452 --> 00:17:10.922
- Up against their sense of what american government
- 00:17:10.922 --> 00:17:13.992
- Should be, what america should be.
- 00:17:13.992 --> 00:17:15.727
- People don't want to see government officials telling
- 00:17:15.727 --> 00:17:18.063
- Boldfaced lies that are contradicted
- 00:17:18.063 --> 00:17:19.931
- By what they can see with their own eyes.
- 00:17:19.931 --> 00:17:22.167
- They don't want to see american citizens shot
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- On the street by government officials,
- 00:17:24.636 --> 00:17:26.438
- And they don't want
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- To see an enforcement operation that creates chaos.
- 00:17:27.539 --> 00:17:31.176
- When the whole point of this is to create more, more order
- 00:17:31.176 --> 00:17:34.579
- And less chaos.
- 00:17:34.579 --> 00:17:35.814
- Okay, so those are all things that i think the president,
- 00:17:35.814 --> 00:17:38.583
- Can be behind and before and help him in the party
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- Politically by working on them.
- 00:17:42.020 --> 00:17:43.889
- If he does that,
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- If he gets the focus on
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- The extraordinary achievement of shutting down the border
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- And the achievement of going into these cities
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- With federal officials
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- And taking out the bad hombres, taking out the people
- 00:17:52.731 --> 00:17:55.367
- Who are dangerous to the community,
- 00:17:55.367 --> 00:17:56.868
- And then deporting others as, as, bandwidth allows.
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- Then i think, one of the great promises made promises
- 00:18:00.472 --> 00:18:03.608
- Kept will be the focus of a lot of voters in the midterms.
- 00:18:03.608 --> 00:18:07.612
- This is not just mag democrats, and this is not just
- 00:18:07.612 --> 00:18:10.882
- Moderate democrats.
- 00:18:10.882 --> 00:18:12.150
- I talked to republicans for the last 72 hours,
- 00:18:12.150 --> 00:18:14.419
- Including some major supporters of the president,
- 00:18:14.419 --> 00:18:17.088
- Who don't want to see this continue
- 00:18:17.088 --> 00:18:18.690
- The way it's been going.
- 00:18:18.690 --> 00:18:19.824
- Again, they support the president's immigration agenda.
- 00:18:19.824 --> 00:18:22.327
- They just don't want to see this.
- 00:18:22.327 --> 00:18:24.129
- And i think if the president can work that out
- 00:18:24.129 --> 00:18:26.565
- To emphasize the parts of this that have worked
- 00:18:26.565 --> 00:18:28.600
- And can continue to work and and mitigate the prospect
- 00:18:28.600 --> 00:18:32.370
- Of americans, citizens being shot by federal officers,
- 00:18:32.370 --> 00:18:36.007
- I think that's a that people will give him the party
- 00:18:36.007 --> 00:18:38.176
- Credit for making a mid-course correction.
- 00:18:38.176 --> 00:18:40.979
- It strikes me, as you noted, they already funded ice,
- 00:18:40.979 --> 00:18:44.182
- For example, for a long time with the big beautiful bill.
- 00:18:44.182 --> 00:18:46.785
- The president has obviously a lot of power to do things,
- 00:18:46.785 --> 00:18:49.521
- Even if he doesn't control congress.
- 00:18:49.521 --> 00:18:51.590
- How much do you think it actually matters
- 00:18:51.590 --> 00:18:54.626
- For president trump's agenda that he control congress?
- 00:18:54.626 --> 00:18:57.662
- And what do you think is likely to happen if he loses it?
- 00:18:57.662 --> 00:18:59.698
- Are we actually likely to see,
- 00:18:59.698 --> 00:19:00.899
- For example, the impeachment every week
- 00:19:00.899 --> 00:19:03.602
- That some people have talked about?
- 00:19:03.602 --> 00:19:04.803
- And if they do impeach trump every week,
- 00:19:04.803 --> 00:19:06.738
- Does that actually matter?
- 00:19:06.738 --> 00:19:08.640
- Well, it's not just impeach him, right?
- 00:19:09.474 --> 00:19:10.976
- It's investigate him.
- 00:19:10.976 --> 00:19:12.744
- There's 100 things they'd like to have subpoena
- 00:19:12.744 --> 00:19:14.846
- Power to investigate and to call
- 00:19:14.846 --> 00:19:16.881
- Members of the administration up to capitol hill to testify.
- 00:19:16.881 --> 00:19:20.118
- All those things
- 00:19:20.118 --> 00:19:21.286
- Are not just a distraction and a bandwidth suck, but they
- 00:19:21.286 --> 00:19:24.656
- They can create a lot of news, because the media would love
- 00:19:24.656 --> 00:19:27.192
- To see a 14 day investigate into,
- 00:19:27.192 --> 00:19:29.694
- You know, the trump family's crypto holdings or,
- 00:19:29.694 --> 00:19:33.498
- An investigation into into policymaking around, ram ice.
- 00:19:33.498 --> 00:19:38.069
- So it matters for that.
- 00:19:38.570 --> 00:19:39.804
- It also matters
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- If the president wants to pass anything.
- 00:19:40.705 --> 00:19:41.973
- The president could do a lot by executive action.
- 00:19:41.973 --> 00:19:44.376
- But it's there's some things,
- 00:19:44.376 --> 00:19:46.244
- Like the budget that congress has to do
- 00:19:46.244 --> 00:19:48.446
- And i'm a big believer that the president does lose
- 00:19:48.446 --> 00:19:51.750
- The house.
- 00:19:51.750 --> 00:19:52.817
- He can turn that into a virtue
- 00:19:52.817 --> 00:19:54.386
- By starting to pass some things in a bipartisan way,
- 00:19:54.386 --> 00:19:57.155
- That the current, balance of power would let him do.
- 00:19:57.155 --> 00:20:00.225
- Now, that won't be popular
- 00:20:00.225 --> 00:20:01.493
- With everyone in maga, because it'll mean the
- 00:20:01.493 --> 00:20:03.194
- President making a deal with i keep jeffries,
- 00:20:03.194 --> 00:20:05.330
- But the alternative is perhaps getting nothing done
- 00:20:05.330 --> 00:20:08.066
- Because they don't have 60 votes in the senate.
- 00:20:08.066 --> 00:20:10.335
- I think that that, that right now, the
- 00:20:10.335 --> 00:20:13.905
- President's chances of keeping the house are underrated.
- 00:20:13.905 --> 00:20:16.408
- It's not the most likely outcome, but it's underrated.
- 00:20:16.408 --> 00:20:19.277
- And the senate is still better than even states
- 00:20:19.277 --> 00:20:21.746
- To stay republican.
- 00:20:21.746 --> 00:20:23.048
- So he needs to, again, the best thing he can do, to,
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- To make sure
- 00:20:27.652 --> 00:20:28.586
- That he's
- 00:20:28.586 --> 00:20:29.421
- Got the best possible chance to keep
- 00:20:29.421 --> 00:20:30.555
- The majority is to do things the american people like
- 00:20:30.555 --> 00:20:33.024
- To do things that are popular
- 00:20:33.024 --> 00:20:34.392
- And to let republicans talk about those things.
- 00:20:34.392 --> 00:20:37.195
- And if he does that,
- 00:20:37.195 --> 00:20:38.663
- You know, will take care of itself,
- 00:20:38.663 --> 00:20:39.931
- But it will be the biggest down payment
- 00:20:39.931 --> 00:20:41.633
- He could make on success in the midterms.
- 00:20:41.633 --> 00:20:43.635
- Yeah. and i think you're right, mark.
- 00:20:43.635 --> 00:20:45.337
- I, you know,
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- I, i'm willing to concede the fact
- 00:20:46.137 --> 00:20:47.672
- Something we've talked about on this show is that, you know,
- 00:20:47.672 --> 00:20:50.041
- That whole masking of ice agents, it strikes, i guess,
- 00:20:50.041 --> 00:20:53.878
- The majority of americans is un-american.
- 00:20:53.878 --> 00:20:56.281
- But they are getting doxed.
- 00:20:56.281 --> 00:20:57.682
- And we do have the sanctuary
- 00:20:57.682 --> 00:20:59.117
- City issues where they're not, you know, willing to cooperate
- 00:20:59.117 --> 00:21:02.153
- Like they did with obama, like they did with clinton.
- 00:21:02.153 --> 00:21:04.522
- And it's it's tds on the local level.
- 00:21:04.522 --> 00:21:07.525
- I mean, if we
- 00:21:07.525 --> 00:21:08.426
- If there is some sort of detente
- 00:21:08.426 --> 00:21:10.161
- That's possible where they actually,
- 00:21:10.161 --> 00:21:11.996
- You know, la,
- 00:21:11.996 --> 00:21:13.164
- Portland, minneapolis, new york are willing to say, hey,
- 00:21:13.164 --> 00:21:16.701
- Smaller footprint, but we'll cooperate at the local
- 00:21:16.701 --> 00:21:19.037
- Level, will hand over detention requests of illegals.
- 00:21:19.037 --> 00:21:22.073
- I think that'll be a huge win for the country.
- 00:21:22.073 --> 00:21:23.675
- And by the way, it would
- 00:21:23.675 --> 00:21:24.809
- It would be safer for agents and cities and illegals.
- 00:21:24.809 --> 00:21:27.379
- If you care about the immigrants,
- 00:21:27.379 --> 00:21:28.613
- It would be safer. i agree, i agree, you need you need.
- 00:21:28.613 --> 00:21:31.216
- I totally agree you need rational policies.
- 00:21:31.216 --> 00:21:33.651
- And you know, we haven't talked about this.
- 00:21:33.651 --> 00:21:34.919
- You guys may have talked about it earlier in the show.
- 00:21:34.919 --> 00:21:36.388
- I was doing other stuff so i wasn't able to listen.
- 00:21:36.388 --> 00:21:39.224
- You know, to be so twisted
- 00:21:39.224 --> 00:21:41.860
- To have every administration official out on sunday saying,
- 00:21:41.860 --> 00:21:44.863
- If you show up with a gun, you're a threat.
- 00:21:44.863 --> 00:21:47.899
- That is that is a twisting of the second amendment.
- 00:21:47.899 --> 00:21:50.101
- It's a twisting of the maga
- 00:21:50.101 --> 00:21:51.669
- Attitude towards the second amendment.
- 00:21:51.669 --> 00:21:53.405
- And so you've got to get policies that you can defend
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- And they can defend, the mission here.
- 00:21:57.208 --> 00:22:00.278
- They can defend what they want to do with deportations.
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- They can't defend saying a guy who shows up
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- With a gun is is a threat automatically.
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- They can't defend claiming
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- The guy's a domestic terrorist without any evidence.
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- I agree,
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- And that's why you're seeing tom homans,
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- Who says, let's have an investigation go in.
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- Tom homans isn't going to say, i'm quite sure
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- Anyone who shows up with a gun is a threat.
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- No, i think we
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- We bungled the the messaging right at the jump.
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- I think that's fair. and we can do better.
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- And we will.
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- Mark halperin, thank you so much.
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- We'll see you soon. see you guys tomorrow.
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- As this year draws to an end,
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- I'd like to express my
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- Heartfelt gratitude to our partners, the fellowship
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- Of christians and jews.
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- And i'd like to say thank you to our audience
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- Who have supported them in prayer, with finances
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- And standing strong for the people of israel.
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- The fellowship is one of america's
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- Most beloved
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- Organizations, spanning more than 40 years of ministry,
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- Providing tangible help
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- And comfort to the people of israel
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- In the ukraine and across the former soviet union.
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- This holiday season and every day of the year,
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- The fellowship is called to serve
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- The elderly jewish people,
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- Many of whom are holocaust survivors who are now
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- Living in the shadow of past wars, poverty and loneliness.
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- During this christmas time, join me and fulfill
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- The prophet isaiah as cry to comfort.
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- Comfort my people, says your god.
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- To find out how. visit ifg.
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- Org. that's if c.j. dawg.
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