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And we wonder in this country
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Why we have an illegal immigration problem.
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If making it easy to be an illegal alien isn't enough,
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How about offering a reward for being an illegal immigrant?
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No son, no sane country would do that right?
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Guess again.
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If you break our laws by entering this country
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Without permission and give birth to a child,
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We reward that child with u.s.
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Citizenship and guarantee of full access to all public
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And social services this society provides.
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And that's a lot of services.
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Is it any wonder that two thirds
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Of the babies born at taxpayer expense, at country,
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County run hospitals in los angeles are born
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To illegal alien mothers?
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Senator bernie marino from the great state of ohio
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Joins us now.
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Senator, you heard the clip that crazy
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Right winger
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Harry reid was up to his old antics in 1993 trying to end
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Birthright for illegal, citizen, illegal aliens.
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What was this guy thinking?
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This is just craziness.
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Well, that was back in the day,
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When democrats loved america.
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Democrats loved the people of america and understood
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Fundamentally the simple truth that bringing
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Massive amounts of people from third world countries
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Will hurt working americans, suppress wages and raise costs.
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Now, by the way, dianne feinstein,
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The bastion of liberalism, was a supporter of that bill.
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Bill clinton was a supporter of that bill.
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There was nothing no, none other than joseph.
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Biden that blocked that bill from even being considered.
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But it wasn't just birth rates.
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Are you kidding?
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It also
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Massively restricted the number of legal immigration.
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It restricted the number of asylum seekers
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To 50,000 a year.
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Biden brought in, during his presidency, 50,000
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Fake asylum seekers a day.
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So there was that, strengthening,
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Penalties against employers who hired illegals.
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I mean, this was a bill that we would look at today.
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Oh my god, why didn't we pass that?
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And imagine had we done that?
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Now, i blame also a little bit, honestly,
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Republicans at the time for not jumping on that bill.
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But back then, unfortunately, prior to president trump,
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There were republicans who looked the other way
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On illegal migration because it provided cheap labor.
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Man, i'm looking at the details of this bill.
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Senator.
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I didn't realize it was so sweeping, actually.
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So you're right.
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It it drastically cut annual admissions
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From roughly 800,000 to 300,000.
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Some say 1 million to 3. 25.
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Imagine we're at a million to imagine the country today.
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It's the great missed turning point in american history.
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And, you know, one of the most depressing
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Things is this won't surprise you, andrew,
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One of the congressional aides who helped derail this.
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There's a story in wired telling the whole thing
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Before he was a bigger name.
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Paul ryan, paul ryan helped kill it.
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Goodness gracious.
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That is so infuriating.
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Senator marino,
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The the former republican party's addiction
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To cheap labor and big business disgusts me
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At a level that i cannot fully articulate
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Right now
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Because my blood is boiling. thinking about what
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A different country we would have today.
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We would not have zero money winning elections in new york
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If this bill had passed.
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No, 100%.
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And we wouldn't even be talking about save america,
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Because this would have been something that would have
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Been common sense.
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It would have gotten done.
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We would have seen the four years of joe biden.
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Think about the countless
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Americans who would still be alive today
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That were killed by illegals, that we entered this country
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4 or 5, six times that were given parole.
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Cities like springfield, ohio, that were overrun by haitians,
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A town of 40,000 people, small little beautiful town,
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20,000 haitians dropped on them overnight.
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And now you have people like our former,
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Quote unquote, republican governor,
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Who, by the way, was against this bill.
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Also in 1993.
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That comes out and doesn't video
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How we have to have empathy for the haitians.
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And, by the way, the empathy for the haitians.
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How about empathy
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For the american citizens who saw their rents go up?
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They couldn't afford home, their hospitals were overrun.
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And when they needed help,
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When they needed benefits, guess what?
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They're waiting in line behind non citizens.
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This is gross and disgusting, but it just shows you how badly
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That the democrat party has moved to the far
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And extreme left.
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And quite frankly, thank god
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President trump moved the republican party
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Much more towards a populist center in america.
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First center.
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That really, quite frankly, is
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What got me engaged in politics.
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Yeah. amen.
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I will say, i mean, it's
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Better late than never, i guess i worry
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That, you know, you talk about the turning
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Point of american history, blake.
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I worry that we're at a tipping point,
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And i pray that we can come back from it.
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So here is the big rub, though, with legislation.
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Right.
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So you had this six three ruling,
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But it was really five four because kavanaugh was saying,
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Hey, if you pass some legislation and define
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The scope and parameter of who gets citizenship,
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You know, i'll just i'll support that. right?
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So we're still at five four
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Because this
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Anything that the
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Congress passes, if it's able to pass something
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Whether it's in reconciliation or whatever,
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It's going to get challenged in court.
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It's going to go straight back to the court.
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And the court is broadcasting to us
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That we're going to lose this 5 to 4.
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So what is your plan for that?
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Well, i think i think the
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Court well, you saw kavanaugh, by the way.
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Kavanaugh
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Specifically references this bill and that not by name
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This bill, but the content of this bill.
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And that gets us to five four, you said and i think
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Between roberts and barrett, they look and go, well,
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You know what this is the congress
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Is congress acting not just an executive order.
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So i think it's possible and that, you know,
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Not impossible to sway one or both of those votes.
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And, you know, this thing is hanging on by a thread.
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In this case, i think this would be
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The action that gets over the top.
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But let me just be clear to you and your listeners,
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If we don't fix this, we have basically destroyed
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What it means to be a united states citizen.
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We have destroyed the ability to protect this country,
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Because while we have president trump,
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We have a secure border.
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We're going to amp up enforcement.
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We're going to make certain that we're much more careful
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Who we let into this country given this massive exposure.
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But the minute this country flips to a democrat control
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Of washington, dc, it's checkmate.
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It's over.
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Triangulating their ability to destroy this country.
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They have all the pieces and parts ready to.
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We have to move with, with action
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And with absolute urgency to get this done.
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I totally agree.
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And you got to cancel august recess.
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You got to cancel this july recess.
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Whatever you got to do, senator, get it done.
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We have your back 100%. we know you're one of the good guys
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We have your back 100%. we know you're one of the good guys
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To the place i belong
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West virginia
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Mountain momma take me home
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Country roads. all right,
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Mark halperin is the host of next.
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Next up with.
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Wait. hold on. mark,
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You have two shows.
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This is it. just brains.
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He's the editor in chief of two way, two way transmission.
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Three hosts.
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Next stop on the megan kelly three shows. yeah. okay.
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Three two. one two.
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I the morning meeting and two way tonight.
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And then i have next up.
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Next up. anything.
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Anything else you ask me
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I'll only give the same answer no matter what the question.
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Usa, usa, usa, don't say i hate soccer, gentlemen.
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The rest of the world loves football.
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It's the beautiful game and it just,
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I know you guys have a brand, equity in,
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Being philistines, but no, do not hate it.
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It's a beautiful game.
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It's the everyone else in the world loves it.
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Everyone.
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I love where america got the best country in the world.
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So we have better sports.
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The the upshot of, you know, the brazil ification of america
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Is that we just get better at soccer and football.
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Do we though? yeah.
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I mean, obviously this team is like all
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They're all playing in europe.
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They're all like, yeah, but
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Have striker on
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The italian team he's on i think our players are heavily
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Just, you know white and black guys.
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We've had those a long time. yeah. yeah. well that's. yeah.
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It's it's also the greatest moment
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In the sun for west virginia since the byrd rule.
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Because it's so true
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To the place i belong.
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West virginia. matt. momma, take me home. country roads.
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I never thought a west virginia song
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Would be our national anthem, but there you go.
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It's so good, though. it just feels right.
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And i get i got chills. i'll. i'll just be honest.
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I'm. i'm a total sucker for anything patriotic. and.
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Yeah, when we want to after that incredibly stupid red card
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That should be appealed, i don't know, i don't know
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If trump has to grant clemency to our striker or whatever.
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All right, here's the deal.
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The old politics is gone.
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Mark, till my team gets me the clip that i need
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And the establishment dems are freaking out.
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And i don't think they have a clue what's coming their way.
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I, i think trump unleash the animal passions
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Of the populist base on both sides,
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And it took all these years for it to catch up on the left.
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I think the establishment dems
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Are absolutely unprepared for this moment.
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They are going to get wiped out and we have proof.
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We have the clip now. it's donny deutsch, 21.
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Democrats have gone off the rails. they're not even folk.
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What matters to people is affordability.
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The democrats right now are focused on two things.
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They focus on anti-semitism and socialism.
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That's not all democrats, not all over.
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But that's where the energy in the party's this is.
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Right now, every republican
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Strategist is salivating on what these people
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Have said in the past,
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And they're going to wallpaper with it.
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And the democrats are going down a bad path.
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They're electing these democratic socialists.
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It's a disaster. no matter what you think of it.
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Where are you?
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Politics are it's bad strategy.
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Do you agree that strategy
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That was that donny deutsch or steve bannon or roger stone?
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Hard to say. i think it was.
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Maddow that's it.
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Yeah. i have a lot of thoughts about this.
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I'll try to be brief.
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And you follow as you wish. of course.
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You look at these candidates who are who donny
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Believes and others,
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And certainly the president believes will define the party.
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There's two things.
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One is, well, three things, sorry.
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One is they're populist
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And anti-establishment, and that's good.
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Now, it's not comforting to some members
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Of the democratic establishment,
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But but that's energy and that's passion
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And that's mobilization.
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Second thing is, they have a lot of really left
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Wing views, right?
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Therefore no police, no ice, no borders,
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No prisons, single payer health care.
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Right.
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There are a lot of left wing positions
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That are very popular
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With tens of millions of people, but probably are not
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Winning general elections.
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And then the third thing is they say a lot of crazy stuff.
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Now, some things on the second bucket
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Are seen
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By many as crazy,
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Like apologize, but also tens of millions of people like it.
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But then they say anti-semitic things, anti-white things.
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They say they say crazy stuff.
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Donny, i think, is insufficiently
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Focused on the difference between 2 and 3.
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They're both big problems, but most of the democratic
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Party is pretty far left, maybe not as far left
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As some of these candidates, but i agree with donny
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And in the main that this is a massive problem.
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The president quite hasn't quite found his voice on it.
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But by election day, by the convention in dallas,
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He guys there he will and, almost certainly
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And and this is, this is a this is a electoral disaster
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To be a socialist party.
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Democrats like socialism, the general election electorate.
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Not so crazy about the implications of it.
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Well, that's my big question, right.
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Because and mark, with all due respect,
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You've you've been covering this beat for a long time,
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But the
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The country that you were covering
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When you started as a, as a journalist
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And reporter is not the same country that we have now.
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We've imported millions of people.
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We have a demographically we're different.
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Spiritually we're different.
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There are different,
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I would say, obstacles in our path.
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We've been printing money like crazy for decades,
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And that has hollowed out the middle class.
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It's devalued the dollar, the offshoring.
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What my point is, what the dsa folk, the crowd are reacting
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To are very real problems and very felt needs.
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If you're making $60,000 a year, right.
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And that's real.
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So and you know, you think about or in cash
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Where you used to be able to support a family of four.
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If the dad went to work for 43 weeks a year now,
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It's like 65 weeks a year.
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You got to work to support a family of four.
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Things are different.
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Does the underlying changes
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In american society make the rise of socialism?
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And i really call it marxism.
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They want to do it electorally at first, at least at first.
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Does it change your calculus?
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My calculus? about what?
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Yeah.
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You say this is electoral,
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Electorally, a bad strategy, politically, a bad strategy.
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Well,
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I agree with exactly how you framed it.
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I remember in 2016, one of the most resonant moments
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For me was a big bernie sanders event in new hampshire.
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The sanders folks were angry at the
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Democratic establishment, embodied by hillary clinton.
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Then they were donald trump by, like, a lot.
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When i would talk to them
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That you talk about trump like an abstraction.
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And in some cases, of course,
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Then and now agree with donald trump, both about
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The long term economic decline and the roots of it,
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But also about some of the solutions.
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I think that
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If you imagined a parallel universe
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Where someone had all these populist positions, charisma
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And some populist solutions that were center
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Left or left left, that'd be super powerful.
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But these people go about the candidates in the
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In the spotlight.
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Now, the democratic socialists who are democratic nominees,
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They're far to the left of that.
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So i think what you're framing, does it change my view?
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It changes my view.
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That about what might be.
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But what is
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Is that they've got these anti-semitic positions
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And they, they're for things like abolishing ice
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That are unpopular
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When they stay on the economy and their economic description
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Of what's happened to the country.
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And they capture
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And harness that anger, as donald trump did in 2016.
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I think they're very potent,
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And i think they could win some general elections.
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The problem for them is,
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James blair and the president and, and lots of other
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Republicans will highlight their anti-semitism,
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Their extreme statements on on issues like policing
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That make it difficult for them to
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To to have the affordability message breakthrough.
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I think you're right.
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If we harness it
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And that's going to be the next part of our conversation
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With mark halperin on the other side of,
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West virginia.
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West virginia.
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We're talking about this
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Rise of democratic socialism, left wing economic views,
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Very left wing views on, on ice,
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On the jews, on a lot of things.
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And i guess the thought that just entered
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My head during the break, mark, is you're saying
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It might be the future of the country,
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But for now, it's political poison.
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And all i can think is,
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I feel like i've been around the block a few times.
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I remember 2015, 2016 where, oh yeah, president trump
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Has some popular stuff, but he also has wacky
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Stuff on other issues and that will kill him.
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And i just wonder,
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Could this sort of wave basically
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Create its own reality where we're saying
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This stuff is really unpopular
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And instead of making it, making them lose,
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They just have the power to make these things popular. yes.
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Could be
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Could be, you know, you can't take out
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The element of trump is a
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One of the best presidential candidates
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When the best politicians we've ever seen.
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So i imagine a parallel universe
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Where jon ossoff,
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Shared bernie sanders point of view
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And was determined to become president of the united states,
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And knew how to round off the sharp edges.
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You know, i workshop this video. fatigues.
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I'm gonna do it on next up
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Next week, but i'm i'm still reporting it
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Out, you know, and you guys, baseball fans, right?
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That's an american game, sir.
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They say the hardest thing in all of sports
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Is hitting a baseball.
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And you know what they say. the second thing of all sports is
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Preventing somebody hitting a baseball, right?
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These are really hard things.
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Hardest thing
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In democratic party politics is, is as a socially just
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To win the nomination, the presidential nomination,
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Because the establishment we saw in 2016 and 2020,
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Well, will bribe and steal and cheat to,
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To keep you from winning the nomination.
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I think the second hardest thing
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In democratic presidential politics
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Now is to stop a socialist from becoming
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The democratic nominee.
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And what you have in this presidential field.
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And i believe that this is where the fight will happen.
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There'll be
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Skirmishes in the midterms, but this fight for the heart
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And soul of the democratic party
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Will occur in the context of 2020 presidential campaign.
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What you have is a bunch of very unskilled candidates,
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Both the
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Socialists and the establishment.
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They're all very weak candidates.
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If bill clinton or barack obama were running against
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The socialist, it'd be no contest.
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If jon ossoff were a socialist,
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I think it'd be no contest.
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The problem is, how do you handicap a contest
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Of inept second grade soccer players
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To really poorly equipped soccer team?
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Second graders roll the ball out? who's
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Going to win the socialist team or the capitalist team?
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Hard to know because they're so weak.
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You say that.
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And it got me thinking.
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I was looking at the polls the other day and we're in
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We're in sort of the indian summer
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Of the kamala harris return to her.
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She was the sort of default early
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She fell off, which i expected.
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But now she's back in first place.
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She's rising in the polls again.
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Inside, axios is reporting she's cozying up
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With some of these called dsa elements called my bonnie.
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Are we are we actually do
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You think we're likely to get the kamala harris 28 redux?
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Possibly.
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I don't think so.
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But i'd also say
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Of all the people talked about
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From the establishment wing of the party
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To potentially be the nominee,
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I would put her towards the bottom
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In having the sophistication and skill
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To run for the nomination,
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Not as a pure socialist, but finesse the relationship.
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And so
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Obviously what she's trying to do here,
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Whether it's in the context of running for president or not,
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She doesn't agree with me on a bunch of stuff,
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But she's calling him up to try to finesse it, to say,
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I want the socialists on my side,
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Because that's where the energy is
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The fundraising, the grassroots,
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The volunteering, the door knocking.
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But i'll say again, that task is the second toughest thing
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In american democratic presidential politics.
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And i don't i don't think she's up to it.
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I think she i think that the tiger who she's grabbing
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By the tail and calling the tiger, will eat her hmhmm
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She will not ride the tiger to the nomination.
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Well, listen, i think, all of this,
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You know, this is something charlie talked a lot about.
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I know, bannon's talked
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A lot about it, but there are two roads
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That we can choose as a country before us.
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One is the mamdani bolshevik socialist revolution.
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It could get bloody,
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There's a lot of bad stuff associated with.
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And then there's maga.
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But here's the problem.
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President trump's populist, capitalist american reform
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Form is getting stuck in the senate.
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It's getting bastardized and slowed down at every front
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By whether it's judicial, you know, obstruction or whatever.
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And my my fear is, is that the reform
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That would actually help alleviate some of the
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Affordability, needs, wants and concerns that are very
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Real is getting blocked by real politic.
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It's getting blocked by the dc establishment.
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And i fear that that is creating discontent,
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That we're not delivering on our promises,
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That this is what's actually fueling
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The rise of the socialist left, the bolsheviks
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And this is a five alarm fire for conservatives, too.
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I looked at that donny deutsch clip
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And i'm like, okay, yeah, we can harness this.
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The question is how and what's the right strategy?
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And do we have enough time
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Left on the clock before they take root?
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I agree with everything you said,
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Except i'm not sure that's causing the rise of the left.
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I think that's causing disappointment on the right.
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I think it's giving rise to the socialist is,
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Their
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Obsession with israel and hamas in gaza and palestinians
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And the fact that if you think about it,
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In 2016 and 2020, they were going to nominate their person
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And the establishment just stole it.
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And then in 2024, they couldn't run anybody
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Because no one was going to challenge joe biden.
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And then kamala harris.
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So imagine if you're someone who came of age in 2015,
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And were attracted to socialist policies
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Which are popular in much of the rest of the world.
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You've now gone more than a decade where
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The party that you associate yourself with has said
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You can't, you can't have your, your aspirations.
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Single payer health care, abolition of ice.
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No more military aid to israel.
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You can't have your aspirations expressed through
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Even the openness of the democratic party
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To hearing those ideas for leadership.
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And i think that's what's given rise to it.
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It's not really
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There's some there's some connection
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To donald trump, but i think it's mostly
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All the stuff you mentioned before, income inequality
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And, and, and feeling like they can't buy a house.
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All the stuff charlie talked about,
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They want to see those things adjudicated and ameliorated
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Through socialist and communist policies.
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And the democratic party, their only vehicle up until now
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To try, says, no, the establishment's got this.
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I agree with that.
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But what i'm saying is
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The right wing populism energy, that president trump,
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The solutions have been so obstructed
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That i'm i'm afraid
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And this is what charlie was afraid of,
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Is that we are in a race against the clock,
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And either
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Our ideas are going to work and they're going to work
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Somewhat quickly, or this energy
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That we've been perceiving from the left
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Is going to swamp the movement, and it's going to pull off
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Enough normies and independents.
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I agree they're going to get hurt with that.
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And so if we don't have the energy
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And the winds, we're going to lose
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And they're going to win.
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I agree, i agree.
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But the two caveats one is they can't they have to have
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Someone who's talented like donald trump is talented,
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Has to be someone who can pull this off
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Because a lot of the country
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Would reject socialism, but they might buy
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It from someone who's better communicator, etc..
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Obama.
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The other thing,
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Like obama, the other thing is, or clinton, bill clinton
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The other thing is
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You can't come to it with abolish ice,
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Abolish prisons, abolish the police.
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The populist economic message has could have broad popularity
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If republicans blow it.
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But that other stuff's never going to be popular.
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That other stuff's 8020 again.
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I hope you're right.
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Go ahead. mark, i know you got to go.
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Thank you for, wrapping up.
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It's great to see you
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Get on the pitch with your
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With your mates and play some football.
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Country roads.
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My country roads.
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We'll see you next time, my friend. good to see you.
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Mark Halperin: July 6, 2026 | Charlie Kirk Today

July 6, 2026 | 23:29

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