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Charlie Kirk Today | Mark Halperin: June 01, 2026: Charlie Kirk Today | June 1, 2026

Near and dear to my heart and to blake's heart,
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Both our hearts is the issue of immigration.
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We have to stay on it like white on race.
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It is the total transformation of our country,
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And it's happening right under our noses.
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Often it's happening legally, which is very upsetting.
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This is one of the reasons i become a supporter
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Of blowing up the filibuster, nuking it
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And getting stuff done if we can.
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If we can, which is unclear.
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This is why we need to reform the us
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Senate little by little, piece by piece.
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We need paxton's, not cornyn.
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We need lynch's, not graham's.
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It's happening slowly but surely.
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The us senate is getting reform.
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So keep the faith, stay the course.
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We're making progress.
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But one of the senators that we lost, it was a good guy.
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That was, a friend of the show is,
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Secretary mark wayne mullen, from the state of oklahoma.
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He's now the secretary
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Of the department of home and homeland security.
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Now, there's been a little consternation within the base
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That he was
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Not going to be tough enough, that he was going to fold, that
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He was going to
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Be giving goodies to illegals to try and make deals
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With democrats. okay.
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Now, listen, i do think that, there needed
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To be some recalibration. dhs, right?
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We lost the pr war, and we need to come to grips
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With that with what happened in minnesota.
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You know, the alex the romney good stuff.
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They won that. they won that fight.
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We saw polling just swing wildly against us.
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Then you come home and go in there.
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He kind of settled things, settled the ship.
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And that's good.
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That's good. because what we want
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And i'll repeat this karma's not drama.
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You want lots of illegals getting out and you want low
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Drama.
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You want to stay off the front page. okay?
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But now secretary mullen is making some news
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And some headlines, and i think for
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A beautiful reason was an idea.
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I floated on this show, and it looks like it's found some,
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Fertile soil at dhs place at 25.
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And we have to decide
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Prioritize our federal employees.
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So we're not going to halt the flights.
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What we're saying is we just won't be able to process them
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Because we don't have officers there.
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We're going
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To pull out our customs and border patrol officers
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That process these flights
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And put them in these facilities to help protect,
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Our employees coming out of work
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That, by the way, and that's not their job.
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Their job is, is to do just what they said,
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Customs and border protection.
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However, since local law enforcement
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Isn't able to do their job because they said, quote,
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They don't have the resources, well, we have to prioritize
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Or prioritize our resources as well.
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So just to make say, i don't know,
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Newark, new jersey, where there's a bunch of ice
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Protests going on right now.
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Well, if you are going to be a sanctuary city
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And you're not going to enforce immigration law, well,
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Then why should we have to
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Handle your customs and border protection
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At the airports for international flights?
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You know what,
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As a matter of fact, maybe there's a red state,
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Maybe florida, maybe texas that could take those flights
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And do a better job managing deportations
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And illegal visa overstays and this and the like.
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This is a massive, massive vulnerability
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For blue states that want the international travel.
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They want the tourist money.
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So all of a sudden you're going to make
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It really hard for tourists to get to new york city
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Because they're not going to enforce immigration laws
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Or newark, new jersey.
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This is a great idea.
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It's thinking outside of the box,
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And i totally support it.
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Here's here's what i'll just say about secretary mullen.
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Have a little faith.
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I'm hearing things behind the scenes
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That we're getting calm is not dramas, okay?
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That's what we want. we want commerce, not dramas.
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There's a way to work and cooperate
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And keep things off the front page.
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That is good for the country,
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And we'll get more of these illegals out of it.
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Okay, but there's another story going on, blake,
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About a hunger strike.
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Hunger strikes?
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Yes. hunger strikes. so.
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So, people are so upset at the prospect of being sent
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Out of our country,
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Which we're told is irredeemably sexist
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And racist and oppressive and genocidal
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And really the worst country to ever exist in human history.
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If you're not white and they're so upset
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At the prospect of being sent away from it
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That they are refusing to eat, and they're also mad
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Because they're not getting enough ethnic food,
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Which we are told
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Is the main reason we need immigration is
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We won't have nice enough restaurants otherwise.
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Everyone, piers morgan said.
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You know,
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He would trade a bunch of immigrants
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As long as he get his chicken curry.
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There's chicken tikka masala.
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Whatever it was,
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It's almost perfect poetry that people will say that
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Because you could just imagine a children's story
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Where someone loses their house because they're offered,
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You know, some little story of esau
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Giving up his birthright for a freaking bull porridge.
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But in this case, it's chicken tikka masala.
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It's biblical in c.s. lewis.
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They they feed him
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Turkish delight to convince him to do evil.
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Which is nasty. place out 30.
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It radical left democrats
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Priorities when they decide to go out and protest.
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A detention center or warehousing,
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Rapists, child predators, murderers.
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They say that they're
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That it's
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Because they're on a hunger strike
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When there was only
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A handful of individuals
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That was refusing to eat because they
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Want their ethnic group or their ethnic right food,
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Well, they go back to their country,
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Get whatever food they want.
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The fact is, we're giving them the calories they want.
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This isn't holiday in.
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It's not a holiday.
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And and then be defiant and want to protest
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That with a hunger strike, be my guest.
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Hunger strike away.
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And in the words of secretary mullen, are spot
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Biden administration response to this?
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First of all, they wouldn't be in detention.
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And second of all, they'd be attention.
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And second of all,
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They'd be giving them debit cards full of cash
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And a plane ticket to their favorite u.s.
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Cities city with free housing
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At the expense of veterans that can't find homes
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And they would say, i'm so sorry, we're so racist.
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Please welcome in and take everything.
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And here's a vote, by the way, you can also vote.
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So when you are tempted
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To black pill,
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When you're tempted to give in to despair and to nihilism,
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Just remember how much better things actually are under
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This administration.
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Do you get everything you want all the time?
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No, but at least you have
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A secretary of department of homeland security saying,
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Take a hike, this isn't the holiday, and get real.
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And in the meantime,
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Hopefully we can get peace in iran
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And that we can start focusing domestically.
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There's a lot of good things, a lot of good things happening,
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And it's up to us to stay focused and positive.
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Stay focused on winning, not giving in to despair.
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Blake, final word to you.
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You know, you get a
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Country and we're very lucky to have a very good one.
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And it would be a very big shame
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If we threw it all away in order to
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Keep our ethnic restaurants or to keep from offending people.
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And there's example
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After example throughout history, we kind of
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I actually think of that standardized test story.
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We did yesterday
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Where we can have unlimited nice things in america.
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We can have incredible schools,
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We can have the best education system in the world.
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We just have the courage
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To have to have the courage to come out and say,
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Some people are smarter than other people,
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And we have ways of finding that out.
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And it's the same thing with immigration.
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We can have an amazing country that brings
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In only the absolute best people.
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We just have to be willing to admit
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Some people are worth having and some people aren't.
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Some. that's all you have to do.
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You have to admit that.
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And you can have
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The best country in the world for centuries to come.
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You just have to go through the awkward thing of saying
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Some people are better was that
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Some people are better was that
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All right.
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It's time for mark halperin to join the show.
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He's the editor in chief of two way tv.
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And next up on the megan kelly network.
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Mark, great to see you.
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We have reports
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Now that president trump has been
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Rushed to the situation room.
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I don't know if that's just, headlines trying to get clicks,
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But he is in the situation room reviewing the peace terms
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In the framework of a potential peace deal with iran.
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First question is, are you hopeful
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This can actually get done?
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And if it can, what are the implications?
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I'm hopeful in the sense that i hope it happens.
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I'm skeptical in the sense
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That it's hard for me to see the deal
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That the president
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Just outlined on truth social
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Being agreed to by the iranians.
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I've thought for a while that the, the, the words
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Coming out of their mouth and a piece of paper
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Saying they're giving up
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Their nuclear program would be a bridge, too far
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For them under the current circumstances,
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Where they don't seem cowed.
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And i would caution people that if the president does say,
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I met with my team, we're signing the deal.
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Even if iran says they're signing the deal to,
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Although it would be a big step for them to acknowledge,
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A commitment to get to the nuclear program.
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It's going to be hard to get that done,
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Particularly
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When one of the first items in
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The deal is opening up the strait,
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Which is great
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For the american economy and the american driver,
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But also takes that economic pressure off iran.
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So i'm skeptical that the deal actually
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Will be agreed to by both sides.
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But if that happens,
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We're all going to have to watch
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To see whether iran will continue to negotiate
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The terms of the specifics on nuclear in good faith.
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And history suggests we should all be skeptical about that.
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Yeah.
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I mean, i think that's a really good
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Point of caution here, mark,
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Because it is a step by step process.
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It's sort of like,
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Hey, we're going to take one step of good faith forward.
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If you meet us there, we're going to take another one
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And another one and another one.
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But if you don't then the stick is waiting.
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Right.
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We can we can blockade the strait again.
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We could even use kinetic military force again.
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We could roll this all the way back
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To the start of the process.
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So i do agree with you.
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That being said, i have been told,
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Sources have told me that what's changed about this
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Is that the moderates seem ascendant.
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The hardliners seem like
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They're getting more and more isolated.
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That could change.
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It's not that the hardliners are gone.
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And the other thing is
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That they actually are willing, for the first time,
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Talking about concessions on nuclear, talking about,
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Okay, we okay, we'll stop,
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We won't pursue this, and we'll create a plan
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For you guys to actually get the dust. right.
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But we've i feel like we've been around the block
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On this a few times where it's it's
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The moderate rebels, the moderate extremists.
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We've seen that in syria. we've seen that in libya.
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Certainly.
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Mark, i think you've probably you've
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Probably been around the block
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On hopes in the in the middle east a few times, and
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You might have some experience on how that tends to pan out.
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Well, historically in the middle east generally, as you
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Just like, and specifically iran, it has worked out great.
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But i think one of the encouraging things in the way
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The president has framed the deal, and we'll see
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In the actual document, if that's the case,
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If iran is not getting financial concessions up front,
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They're not getting any sort of unfreezing of the assets.
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They're not getting, sanctions taken off.
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They're simply being allowed to trade oil,
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Which probably would involve some sanctions being taken off.
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But but specifically for that purpose,
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Then i think the pressure can remain on them.
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And the president
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And some of his advisors had dreamed from the beginning
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That the way to solve this is to get iran
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Into the community of nations to cross with.
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For time they were calling the golden bridge.
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So you're right to be skeptical about the middle east.
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We're all right to be skeptical about iran.
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But this is the president
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Who struck the deal between israel and and gaza.
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That deal's been stalled out.
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But between that and the abraham accords, he's
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Been made more forward progress in the region
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Than any of his recent predecessors.
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And so
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Maybe this will be a deal that the iranians
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Can be coaxed into.
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And maybe if the so-called moderates are ascendant,
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There can be the kind of economic connection
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That really is the key for a lot of folks to say,
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You can't ever deal with iran in good faith as long as the,
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The religious extremists are in charge.
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But maybe this can change things
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If their economy is offered kind of a tie up with the us.
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Well, let's talk incentives here
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Then, mark, because a lot of times
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Deals get done when the incentives align.
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Right?
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So iran's got these wells
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That if they have to shut them off
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Because they run out of storage,
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You might not ever be able to turn them back on. right?
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Okay.
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That's a huge incentive, even if you're a hardliner
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And even if you sort of don't
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Care about your own people, that is something to consider.
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It's a huge pressure point.
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So they're incentivized
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To at least open this straight back up,
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Whether or not they'll actually play
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Ball in the nuclear, we don't know.
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All right.
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And that's the one thing i'm a little bit
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Skeptical with this deal is like, okay,
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Why don't you let us have the nuclear,
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Then we'll open the strait.
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I kind of want the, the, the points reversed.
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Secondly, though, politically here at home,
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We have to be realist about the,
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The political incentives.
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If we get gas under $3 on average
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Across the country again heading into november,
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That's a huge boon
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To the to the president and to the economy.
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Those things seem to be in alignment.
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Do you think that's enough to push this
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To to the president signing it? you know what i mean?
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It's like he's got to be a realist about this.
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Are you hearing that
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He's as concerned about that as maybe i am?
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Or you might be?
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No, i mean,
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The order of operations is exactly what you said,
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But not only for the reasons you said, which is
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Getting the nuclear done
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Some people think
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Will take many months,
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And some people think it will take years.
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Okay.
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That's a much different timetable than the president
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Needs to be on both politically and economically
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For reopening the strait.
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So this is why you're going to hear skepticism,
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Including from some neocons and from some independent
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Analysts, which is to say opening
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The strait has benefits for both sides.
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There's been a paradox that i think held up a deal.
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Both sides want the strait open long term,
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But short term, opening the strait, is a disadvantage
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For both sides.
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Iran gives up its leverage over the president
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Regarding gas prices in the midterms,
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And the president gives up leverage over
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Iran for what you said, which is now
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They're
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They're the pressure on them
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To not have to shut down their oil facilities
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And do permanent damage goes away.
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So this is a sign of trust, a sign of good faith,
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Of course, even if they agree to it, one, one,
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Drone or one attack on one ship can make a big difference.
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There's lots of questions in the oil industry
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And the shipping industry about even if they agreed today,
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How soon insurers and captains can get moving again
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To move ships through, and how soon that'll impact prices.
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But the nuclear piece is just very complicated.
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And that's
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Assuming that iran is operating in some level of good faith,
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Which the vice president said last night
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They are operating currently in good faith.
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It'd be great if they do.
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But even if they want to get this done, it's going to be
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A complicated process.
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And that, again, assumes that the hardliners don't
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Reassert their power over the process.
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Yeah.
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And i think it's again, all this caution is super
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Warranted.
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I'm not trying to be glass half full rose colored glasses.
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I'm simply saying politically, getting this deal done makes
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All the sense in the world if it can be done right.
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And in the caution.
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Yeah, in the caution that you're mentioning
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Mark here about, you know, we're not sure
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If the the chain of command is being followed,
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You know, strictly in, in
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A centralized way in iran, you could have factions
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That are controlling different parts of the irgc
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Or the revolutionary guard. right.
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And they could they can spring an attack
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On one of these vessels
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Completely outside of the chain of command
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That has been established in this framework.
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And then what do you do? yeah.
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So there's lots of questions remaining.
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Yeah. yeah.
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You know, you're right
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About two things for sure that i'll emphasize. one is
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These ships aren't going to just go through.
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They're going to need to be safe.
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And just saying the blockades off
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And iran is going to let free passage
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Go doesn't help the insurers get insurance in place, doesn't
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Reassure the captains and crews, and doesn't
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Keep a rogue element in iran from striking.
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And we don't know what would happen in that instance.
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The other thing is,
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If the deal is anything like what
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The president said on truth social,
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Good for him because this is exceeds
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My expectations from a few hours ago
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About what the best possible deal
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Would be for him and for the united states,
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Politically and geopolitically, to get the process going.
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Because the status quo was untenable
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For the president, it was untenable
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Politically and geopolitically, diplomatically.
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He needed a change.
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And this is under the circumstances.
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Again,
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If the president's outline is correct,
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This is for exceeds what i thought was possible
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Under the current circumstances.
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More with mark halperin on the other side of this break.
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We'll be right back.
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We'll be right back.
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Mark, i have to ask you about this.
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I'm sort of convinced there's not a whole lot
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Of significance here,
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But i do find it interesting that jill biden is now trying
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To set the record straight on the infamous debate night.
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You know, she gets up on stage and said, you answered
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All the questions, joe, which was, probably untrue.
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But she she's now admitting that she was worried.
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Did he have a stroke?
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Was he drugged?
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You know, was he sabotaged?
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Which sounds equally implausible
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To me, to be honest,
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Because she had to see him every single day.
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Yeah, but he was never like, oh, god.
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Or she says, are they going to think
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That he was always like this?
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Jill, we have news for you.
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He was always like this and we saw it with our own two eyes.
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Your thoughts mark,
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I think the biggest
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Thing that was revealed is the bidens don't have c-span
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Because, if they did, joe biden would have seen this.
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I find this whole thing really troubling.
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I it's a fun story,
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And i know i predicted you guys would ask me about it
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Because it's fun and it's interesting.
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But there are two fundamental things
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Joe biden is job is to protect her
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Family, protect her husband.
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So her lying about this, i just i chalk it up to whatever,
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But it's it's it's troubling
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That she had an opportunity not to respond
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In the heat of the moment,
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But to write a book, to think about what
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She wanted history to think her view of this was
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And obviously
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She didn't think her husband
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Was on drugs
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Or having a stroke, or she would have done
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Something differently on the night of the debate.
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So i find that all just kind of annoying.
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What i continue to be more troubled by is
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The dominant media reaction to this is,
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Oh my goodness, look what joe biden is saying.
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And then say, well,
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It doesn't make sense because right after the debate,
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She said he did such a good job.
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No, the reaction should be, you know what?
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Now it's time for us to come clean.
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On the role we played in the cover up,
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Because anyone who looked at that night
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And was surprised, or as joe biden said,
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Oh my god, he must be having a stroke
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If that was the product of a stroke,
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Then the guy had strokes on a regular basis for seven years,
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And he's a medical miracle for having lived through it.
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So i mean, to me, that just depressing
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To once again watch the media be like,
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Oh, we're figuring it out now.
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We caught jill biden in a lie.
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She obviously didn't think he was having a stroke.
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No, it's an opportunity to say once again,
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We failed you, the american people.
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We should have told you this sooner.
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But obviously joe biden's not telling the truth.
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And obviously we didn't tell you the truth
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Because we act surprised on debate night, too.
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And you're right.
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And we should come clean, not just for moral reasons,
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But we really went through something
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Incredibly dicey with that, which is, yeah, we don't
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Who was actually the president in 2019, 2023, 2024?
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President
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Trump has raised the question,
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Did, president biden's pardons?
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Was he actually aware of that?
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All of them at any point were
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His policies, were his executive orders?
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Were they actually routing through the president
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Or through this small cabal
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Of people who had access to him?
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And i think that we actually do
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Need to get to the bottom of that, or it
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Raises serious questions about the nature of our system,
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Even if you it's not just president trump's jokes
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About having, you know, the auto
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Signature machine in the rose garden,
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It really raises concerns about our system.
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Amen.
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And and it raises questions about the people
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Around the president,
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The cabinet, the senior white house staff, his family.
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It raises questions about the president himself.
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And i'll say again, what what i said at the time,
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Joe biden was not as far gone as his critics said,
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But he was not as with it as his defenders said.
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And people in that state have good days and bad days.
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And he had some good days.
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He had good days.
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So you look at the state of the union,
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He gave that very the year, the presidential race.
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He had good days.
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But it also i go back to the media.
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It raises questions about the media, about the
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American medical association, about members of congress.
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All these members of congress say now, oh, well,
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Privately, i saw how bad he was or i had no idea.
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I'm sick of people being asked that.
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Did you have any idea?
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Of course they had an idea because they all have c-span.
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So unlike the bidens.
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And so it's
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Troubling about the whole system,
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Not just that we had a commander in chief in place
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Who obviously couldn't do
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The job and was inclined to run again.
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But about the entire society's
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Failure to say the emperor has no clothes.
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No, the emperor has no clothes, is a
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Is a great parable, and it's often used.
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I can't think of a more apt moment to use it.
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We all saw the president was naked.
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We all saw it.
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And yet, with few exceptions, conservative media being
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One of them, me being another, no one would say it.
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Even the congressman from minnesota, whose name
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I always forget who ran for president, briefly.
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Even he pulled his punches.
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He wasn't totally honest about what was happening.
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And then yet,
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You know,
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Every other member of congress and then only because
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He was a threat
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To the party's chances in the in the election down ballot.
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Only then did nancy
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Pelosi and chuck schumer and others speak out,
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Not because they said, oh my god, were they?
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Yeah.
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Oh my god, we're
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We're endangering the health and safety of america.
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No. we spoke they spoke out because,
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Oh my god, we could lose to donald trump.
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And down ballot candidates could lose too.
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It's a it's just a horrible, horrible
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Failure of accountability across the board.
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Well in mark i will just tell you,
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We had brooke rollins in studio yesterday
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And we played the the interview earlier.
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When you hear their stories, not just what
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We shared on the show, because, you know,
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They come in and we greet them and say, how's it going?
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And they're telling us, like
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When we got under the hood here, the amount of fraud,
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Mismanagement, and it was like a bunch of kids
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Running around with no, it, you know, teacher around,
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Like i'm telling you, under the bite.
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And obviously some of that is filtered
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Through a political lens. i'm biased.
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I admit it, but it's crazy
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How much fraud was going on, how much grift was going on.
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And listen, i get that that's always
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Sort of baked into the cake politically, but it's shocking.
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And when you hear stories like this
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And you look back at the four years of biden,
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You realize just how,
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You know, the country was not being run.
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Well, i think that's fair to say, mark.
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I know you got a i got you got to, dart here.
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So i'll let you go.
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But thank you for making the time this morning.
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And we appreciate it as always, my friend. thanks, guys.
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Great to see you both. looking forward to being back.
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All right. so a big busy hour.
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We got our eyes on president trump.
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And this iranian peace deal.
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Listen, whatever you
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Make of it, if you want to see regime
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Change, you want to see i get it.
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But this is a good deal if we can get it done.
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And so all eyes are on iran, because all eyes will
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Then be on the u.s. where they should be.
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All right.
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If you want to be focused domestically,
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If you want to be focused on the midterms,
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You want this deal done. okay.
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So pray for peace.
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Pray for president trump, pray that the right people would
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Rise to the occasion in iran, and they would come to the fore
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And that the hardliners would be pushed out.
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The naysayers would be pushed out on both sides, by the way,
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On our side as well.
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We want peace.
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We want domestic tranquility.
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We want to be focused on the issues
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That will drive out the vote here, right here at home.
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So pray for peace.
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Today we're going to be watching it very closely.
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Mark Halperin: June 01, 2026: Charlie Kirk Today

June 1, 2026 | 23:29

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