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  • Senator mark quinn
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  • Mullen is one of the most liked
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  • Senators, especially on the republican side of the aisle.
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  • Within washington, he is, congenial guy.
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  • He's very affable.
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  • A lot of people like him,
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  • Which it's good to be all of those things,
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  • But we're well aware that those phrases do set off
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  • Alarm bells for a lot of people.
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  • Yeah, well, we don't want to hear.
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  • You usually don't want hear some described
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  • As one of the most popular people in washington.
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  • Being popular in dc is not necessarily a compliment, but
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  • I will say i my glass is half full.
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  • I have, a great respect for the senator.
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  • I think he's, you know, here's the thing.
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  • He's a former mma guy.
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  • He's, military guy.
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  • He's, you know, he's
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  • I don't want to say
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  • He's mainstream, but he's kind of mainstream.
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  • Right.
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  • And again, alarm bells, alarm bells, alarm bells.
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  • Because say what you will about kristi noem.
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  • The same type of woman that is willing to shoot her
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  • Dog is not going to be as,
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  • Let's say, vulnerable to emotional appeals.
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  • She was going to be ruthless when it came to deportations.
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  • Here is the trade that you make when you are ruthless.
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  • You're not going to get cooperation from blue states.
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  • They're going to dig their heels in
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  • And they're going to fight you with everything they've got.
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  • And that's what we saw with christie noem's approach.
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  • And you kind of see this play out in minneapolis.
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  • So we have this huge uproar.
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  • Rene. good. alex. pretty.
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  • And people digging their heels in protest.
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  • Nobody wants to cooperate.
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  • And then homan comes in, kind of settles things down.
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  • A lot of it starts going under the radar.
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  • You don't see the headlines as much and things calm down.
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  • And the jails and the prisons and the counties and even
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  • Minneapolis start cooperating with ice, giving over,
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  • Criminal illegals with detention requests.
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  • That's a good thing.
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  • It is a good thing if they cooperate.
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  • But we have to be.
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  • This is there's going to be
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  • A little bit of a skirmish here,
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  • Because with any change of the person at the top,
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  • There is an opportunity.
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  • And there are definitely going to be people who approach
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  • The president, approach
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  • The president's aides, and they say, you know,
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  • Kristi noem,
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  • She had a lot of these problems because she was so tough and,
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  • You know, midterms are coming up.
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  • Some people think it's time to head
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  • Towards the middle a little bit and they'll try to sell
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  • The administration.
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  • Oh, this is a time to pivot
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  • Towards the middle on immigration.
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  • Maybe dial back the ice stuff, dial back
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  • Deportations, dial back enforcement stuff.
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  • And you know, this is your chance to do it.
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  • There's a new guy. he's pretty popular with democrats.
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  • We can be we can play nice with him.
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  • There will be this siren call to soften up.
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  • And i think the administration's got to resist.
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  • This is the president's signature promise.
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  • And his signature success of his term
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  • So far is the effort not just that is secured.
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  • The border, but there's a bunch of other things he's done.
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  • They've cut the number of h-1b visas that are being granted.
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  • They've cut the number of foreign students.
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  • The overall foreign population of the us is going down.
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  • It's basically stalled visas from a lot of countries.
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  • Dozens.
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  • I think 70 countries have a visa. pause.
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  • Right now.
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  • These are all good things long term there.
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  • It's stopping that it's breaking
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  • That utter dependance
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  • On foreigners endlessly coming into america
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  • That's hollowed us out in so many ways.
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  • And they're going to pressure trump
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  • To reverse course on this.
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  • And this is their chance to do it.
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  • They're gonna say, new guy at dhs, new policies.
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  • Midterm year is up on things.
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  • And as we said yesterday, there's
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  • Going to be pushback on anything worth doing at ice.
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  • You don't want the stuff we had with secretary nome, where
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  • A $200 million ad
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  • Buy should not be your source of controversy,
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  • The fact that you're not getting contracts signed
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  • Because they're just sitting on your desk
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  • Don't want any of that going on.
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  • But you do need to be prepared
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  • To fight out what really matters.
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  • And if mark wayne mullen is able
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  • To get along with democrats in a way that makes sure
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  • We still have enforcement going on, that's great.
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  • But they should not
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  • Allow themselves to get tricked into selling out
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  • What they promised before the, before the election.
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  • Well, and remember the context that we're in right now,
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  • This is what i want all of you at home
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  • To kind of think about. we have iran, right?
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  • So i was on with chris cuomo
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  • Last night and chris cuomo made this line.
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  • I didn't get a chance to respond to it.
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  • And i texted him about it after because i was like,
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  • You know, that was that was not cool.
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  • But he said that,
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  • You know, president trump was this america
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  • First that he ceded the america first mantle.
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  • I disagree with that.
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  • I know a lot of people that are skeptical about
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  • What's happening in iran.
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  • Think that he has ceded the america first mantle.
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  • I don't agree with that at all.
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  • I actually think that listen, i'm skeptical of what,
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  • We're doing in iran.
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  • But once we press go,
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  • We have our we have our president's back.
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  • We have our troops back.
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  • And i do think that there is an america first angle here.
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  • And i think you could message on it.
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  • I think that you could make that case.
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  • But dhs is central to the america first promise, reason
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  • Why president trump was elected in the first place.
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  • And this is the moment to seize that mantle
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  • And to make sure that we we drive it home.
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  • All right.
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  • So this is not a time
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  • To listen to the voices that would tell president trump
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  • And this administration to go soft, to get weak in the knees,
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  • To cede ground to the radical left in the activist base.
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  • No, but here's the middle ground.
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  • And this is why i think, mark,
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  • When one could be potentially incredibly successful at dhs.
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  • Dhs is really good.
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  • As our guest said yesterday, when there's no drama,
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  • There's commerce, meaning we want millions out.
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  • The way you get no drama is you have a guy
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  • Like marquand mullen who can reach across the aisle,
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  • Calm people's fears, put on an affable, congenial face to it,
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  • Stay out of the headlines and just get the work done.
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  • If we start getting prison transfers of criminals
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  • That have already
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  • Been taken off the streets by local police departments,
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  • And they get deported seamlessly,
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  • Easily with just a few agents.
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  • Not not these raids all the time.
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  • That's going to be really key.
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  • And the next key
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  • Employment enforcement,
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  • Employment enforcement,
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  • All right.
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  • It is.
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  • That time again, we have mark halperin.
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  • He's editor in chief of two way tv, as well as host
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  • Of next up on the and kelly network.
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  • Welcome back to the show.
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  • To the charlie kirk show.
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  • Mark, how are you doing, jim?
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  • And i'm good.
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  • And in honor of, intra maga conflict, i'm dressed
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  • Like steve bannon today with the three layers.
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  • That where we're going?
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  • Is that where we going?
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  • All right, all right.
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  • This is, tried to grow.
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  • I tried to grow my beard in, but i couldn't do it fast.
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  • Well, blake's, fro is going to take some of our,
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  • Strong cell hair to sprout all over.
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  • These are fake to me. fake?
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  • Fake allegations.
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  • All right, mark, so is this where you tell us
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  • That, the iranian war or conflict or whatever calling
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  • It is causing intra maga fighting or or what?
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  • What is your political analysis?
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  • Well, of where we're at, it is it is.
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  • And you could take a tucker, description of his opposition
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  • And graft a bunch of it onto a bernie sanders description.
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  • And it would look a lot of like,
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  • This is not a poll, a poll, a partizan issue as much as
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  • It is attitude about america's role in the world.
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  • So i'm for a robust debate.
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  • I think people shouldn't shy away from the reality
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  • That there are people within both parties
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  • Who disagree about whether this is a good idea,
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  • And i think it should be less about, personality
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  • And fighting and more about the get
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  • On the national town square and explain your position.
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  • I think the president, you know,
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  • Talked about this on next up last week.
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  • I don't think the why and the why now are ambiguous.
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  • And i it frustrates me
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  • That people want to spend time
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  • Debating the why and the why now,
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  • I think there are lots of debates to have.
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  • Congress is role.
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  • The end game regime change, how much it costs, the risks.
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  • But i don't think we need to debate why and why now.
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  • I think the president and caroline
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  • Leavitt have made that pretty clear.
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  • You know,
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  • But we had a nuclear scientist on the show yesterday
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  • Who said, basically, it's the same amount of time
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  • Going from 0 to 5% enrichment as it is 60 to 90.
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  • I mean,
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  • It ramps up very quickly how fast you can get it there.
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  • And so, i mean, listen,
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  • There's a lot of reasons,
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  • I think that this can make sense
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  • From a
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  • National security perspective,
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  • From a geopolitical perspective.
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  • The truth, though, is that trump could be 100%
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  • Right from a national security perspective and an american
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  • First perspective,
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  • But it could be politically costly,
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  • And we need to be honest about that.
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  • Mark, we had students from,
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  • Some of our chapters on and they said basically
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  • All the trump voters on campus hate it, too.
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  • Right. and this was something
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  • That charlie was intimately aware of.
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  • My perspective on it is once you press go,
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  • You got to be a patriot.
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  • You got to root for our troops, pray for their safety,
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  • And you got to pray
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  • That america's interest, are advanced somehow,
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  • The world's interest
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  • Iranian's interests are, advanced somehow here.
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  • But politically, i think this gets dicier the longer it goes.
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  • Right? so we were told 4 to 5 weeks.
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  • Now we're told 100 days, maybe through september.
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  • That seems to be the central question of how do you get out
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  • As this thing drags on?
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  • I think that's where the political fallout
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  • Is going to be felt most sharply,
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  • Especially as we close into the midterms.
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  • So what messaging is working, what's not working,
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  • What's piercing, what's getting through
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  • Line up the two sides?
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  • What do you think is working
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  • When the democrats are attacking it?
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  • What do you think is working when the the admin supports it?
  • 00:09:51.044 --> 00:09:54.714
  • Well, first,
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  • I know you guys must do this all the time,
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  • But i really do wonder what would have happened
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  • If the president had called charlie
  • 00:09:59.752 --> 00:10:01.187
  • Last week and said, hey, i'm thinking of doing this.
  • 00:10:01.187 --> 00:10:03.923
  • What he would have said, and then what he would have said
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  • If the president hadn't agreed with his advice.
  • 00:10:06.092 --> 00:10:08.127
  • But i'd done it anyway.
  • 00:10:08.127 --> 00:10:09.395
  • So you mean that might have been his advice?
  • 00:10:09.395 --> 00:10:11.397
  • I really do wonder because, as we all know, he was singular
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  • In thinking about
  • 00:10:14.133 --> 00:10:14.934
  • These things from all dimensions,
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  • And i don't think he would have been exactly
  • 00:10:16.469 --> 00:10:18.337
  • Where tucker is or exactly where the vice president is.
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  • But i do wonder where he would have been on this.
  • 00:10:20.606 --> 00:10:22.375
  • Look, i think the politics overlap
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  • With the substance,
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  • But the substance is most important
  • 00:10:26.512 --> 00:10:28.047
  • And the politics will flow from that.
  • 00:10:28.047 --> 00:10:29.816
  • If this is successful,
  • 00:10:29.816 --> 00:10:31.684
  • Then i think it will help republicans,
  • 00:10:31.684 --> 00:10:33.319
  • Although it may not
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  • Save their majorities in congress in the midterms.
  • 00:10:34.420 --> 00:10:36.856
  • The democrats are really surprising to me,
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  • Even in
  • 00:10:39.125 --> 00:10:39.792
  • Given how much they dislike
  • 00:10:39.792 --> 00:10:40.693
  • The president, how polarized things are.
  • 00:10:40.693 --> 00:10:42.495
  • It surprises me how far out there
  • 00:10:42.495 --> 00:10:44.263
  • They are, and just emphasizing the negatives about this
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  • And not not even sometimes even paying homage
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  • To the extraordinary performance of the us military.
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  • And, and the boldness of this.
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  • Yeah,
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  • We've had
  • 00:10:56.509 --> 00:10:57.577
  • Decades of all presidents saying iran cannot have
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  • A nuclear weapon.
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  • Is it intolerable that iran is developing ballistic
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  • Intercontinental ballistic missiles?
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  • It's intolerable
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  • That iran is the leading sponsor of terrorism
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  • Around the world.
  • 00:11:09.021 --> 00:11:10.156
  • Other presidents felt the same way about president trump.
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  • Not just that
  • 00:11:12.458 --> 00:11:13.659
  • It was a bad thing, but that it was an intolerable thing.
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  • And yet donald
  • 00:11:16.662 --> 00:11:17.730
  • Trump is the one who's done something about it.
  • 00:11:17.730 --> 00:11:19.031
  • Now, there are
  • 00:11:19.031 --> 00:11:19.599
  • Extraordinary risks,
  • 00:11:19.599 --> 00:11:21.033
  • And you put your finger on for most what for most republicans
  • 00:11:21.033 --> 00:11:24.437
  • Who are worried about the election
  • 00:11:24.437 --> 00:11:26.205
  • Is the critical factor.
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  • How long will this last?
  • 00:11:27.507 --> 00:11:29.609
  • And i believe that that the president could stop now.
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  • Right.
  • 00:11:33.179 --> 00:11:34.180
  • There's nothing there's no there's no, factor
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  • That keeps the president except for maybe
  • 00:11:37.717 --> 00:11:40.086
  • Fighting with that yahoo about it
  • 00:11:40.086 --> 00:11:42.155
  • From saying, hey, we just we degraded on the fronts.
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  • We wanted to missile technology,
  • 00:11:44.891 --> 00:11:47.660
  • In naval capacity,
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  • Nuclear development and terrorist sponsorship.
  • 00:11:50.329 --> 00:11:53.466
  • We've degraded all those. we're done.
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  • We're going to we're going to
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  • We're going to come back home and warn the iranians
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  • That if they continue on those fronts
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  • To try to rebuild, we'll do it again.
  • 00:11:59.939 --> 00:12:01.774
  • Or he can keep going and further degrading all four
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  • And hope
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  • That that
  • 00:12:05.311 --> 00:12:06.479
  • Becomes an opportunity for the iranian people to rise up.
  • 00:12:06.479 --> 00:12:09.215
  • So i think people who are worried that this is a quagmire
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  • Or too much money or an endless war,
  • 00:12:12.385 --> 00:12:15.922
  • I think are underestimating the flexibility
  • 00:12:15.922 --> 00:12:17.790
  • The president has here, too, if he wants to for substantive
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  • And or political purposes to just end it.
  • 00:12:20.593 --> 00:12:23.129
  • Well, you know,
  • 00:12:23.129 --> 00:12:24.730
  • I've heard that take, but do you think that holds up now
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  • That iran has taken this sort of lash out approach
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  • Where they are
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  • Shooting missiles at dubai,
  • 00:12:32.338 --> 00:12:33.706
  • They're shooting missiles at kuwait?
  • 00:12:33.706 --> 00:12:36.175
  • We've had things popping up in azerbaijan, jordan, cyprus,
  • 00:12:36.175 --> 00:12:39.545
  • Even that actually, the president is sort of stuck
  • 00:12:39.545 --> 00:12:43.649
  • As long as that's going on, because he has
  • 00:12:43.649 --> 00:12:45.551
  • So many of these relationships with middle eastern countries,
  • 00:12:45.551 --> 00:12:48.588
  • And he can't abandon all of them at once.
  • 00:12:48.588 --> 00:12:51.057
  • Well, i hear what you're saying,
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  • But if you believe the american military and it's right,
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  • If you've got my profession
  • 00:12:55.628 --> 00:12:57.196
  • To be skeptical of what the government says
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  • During war, especially during war,
  • 00:12:59.932 --> 00:13:01.567
  • When governments historically don't always tell the truth,
  • 00:13:01.567 --> 00:13:04.437
  • They can keep going and continue
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  • To degrade those things.
  • 00:13:06.706 --> 00:13:07.773
  • So could they stop if if iran still had capacity
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  • To, send missiles or drones into other countries?
  • 00:13:11.444 --> 00:13:14.447
  • Probably not.
  • 00:13:14.447 --> 00:13:15.948
  • But if you look at the data of how many attacks they've
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  • Engaged in in the last 24 hours versus the first 48 hours,
  • 00:13:18.684 --> 00:13:22.755
  • It appears the pentagon's telling the truth, that
  • 00:13:22.755 --> 00:13:25.458
  • They've diminished their capacity.
  • 00:13:25.458 --> 00:13:26.926
  • So can they.
  • 00:13:26.926 --> 00:13:28.427
  • Can they make it so
  • 00:13:28.427 --> 00:13:29.528
  • Run can never hit an american ally ever again? no,
  • 00:13:29.528 --> 00:13:32.798
  • But they can degraded pretty substantially, it appears.
  • 00:13:32.798 --> 00:13:35.601
  • And again,
  • 00:13:35.902 --> 00:13:36.836
  • That could be a natural stopping point,
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  • Even if we know little about whether whoever's governing
  • 00:13:38.204 --> 00:13:42.041
  • Iran now will be any better
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  • For the world and for the iranian people than
  • 00:13:43.976 --> 00:13:46.145
  • What was there before the conflict began.
  • 00:13:46.145 --> 00:13:48.514
  • There is a countervailing sense that president trump
  • 00:13:48.514 --> 00:13:52.251
  • Is really the first president that's really unleashed
  • 00:13:52.251 --> 00:13:55.288
  • Our military to just beat completely lethal and precise.
  • 00:13:55.288 --> 00:13:59.992
  • Not not we're not tying their,
  • 00:13:59.992 --> 00:14:02.061
  • Their, their feet here in their hands.
  • 00:14:02.061 --> 00:14:04.030
  • So i mean that when you talk about
  • 00:14:04.030 --> 00:14:06.132
  • We could actually do this relatively quickly.
  • 00:14:06.132 --> 00:14:09.101
  • I mean, when you look at this, you're looking at the data,
  • 00:14:09.101 --> 00:14:11.103
  • You're looking at how precise and lethal they're being.
  • 00:14:11.103 --> 00:14:14.206
  • They really this really could be a new model.
  • 00:14:14.206 --> 00:14:16.575
  • Even in a country as big as iran.
  • 00:14:16.575 --> 00:14:19.045
  • Or do you think that that's coped?
  • 00:14:19.045 --> 00:14:20.446
  • Do you think i'm, full of no opium here?
  • 00:14:20.446 --> 00:14:23.115
  • No, i think i think it's it's
  • 00:14:23.115 --> 00:14:25.985
  • Full use of force, but not but not boots on the ground.
  • 00:14:25.985 --> 00:14:28.688
  • And no one's talking about
  • 00:14:28.688 --> 00:14:30.356
  • Building schools and hospitals in tehran.
  • 00:14:30.356 --> 00:14:33.292
  • So if you stay away from troops on the ground
  • 00:14:33.292 --> 00:14:35.628
  • And boots on the ground, you stay away from nation building
  • 00:14:35.628 --> 00:14:38.864
  • And you stay away from being responsible
  • 00:14:38.864 --> 00:14:40.900
  • For the new government.
  • 00:14:40.900 --> 00:14:42.034
  • Although the president yesterday suggested
  • 00:14:42.034 --> 00:14:44.136
  • He was responsible for it, or at least he'd like to be.
  • 00:14:44.136 --> 00:14:47.173
  • If you stay away from responsibility
  • 00:14:47.173 --> 00:14:48.808
  • In those three areas, this is a new paradigm,
  • 00:14:48.808 --> 00:14:51.143
  • And i find it amusing when people say
  • 00:14:51.143 --> 00:14:54.213
  • There's never been, regime change forced by air power.
  • 00:14:54.213 --> 00:14:58.651
  • Well, there's two things i think wrong with that.
  • 00:14:58.651 --> 00:15:00.186
  • One is regime change doesn't have to happen for this
  • 00:15:00.186 --> 00:15:02.888
  • To be a success.
  • 00:15:02.888 --> 00:15:04.323
  • And number two,
  • 00:15:04.323 --> 00:15:05.324
  • We've never had air power like we have now,
  • 00:15:05.324 --> 00:15:07.093
  • Particularly with drones, but also the sophistication
  • 00:15:07.093 --> 00:15:09.895
  • And lethality of america's air power from sea, land and air.
  • 00:15:09.895 --> 00:15:13.132
  • So i wouldn't be surprised if this if this is actually
  • 00:15:13.132 --> 00:15:17.536
  • What the president's
  • 00:15:17.536 --> 00:15:18.704
  • Brand on these things stand for it well-executed,
  • 00:15:18.704 --> 00:15:21.807
  • Which is overwhelming force mitigating the problems
  • 00:15:21.807 --> 00:15:26.012
  • That have occurred
  • 00:15:26.012 --> 00:15:27.046
  • In previous forever wars that he's still against
  • 00:15:27.046 --> 00:15:29.615
  • And his constituents are against.
  • 00:15:29.615 --> 00:15:31.317
  • President trump sort of pioneered the,
  • 00:15:31.317 --> 00:15:33.986
  • You know, iraq was a dumb war, right?
  • 00:15:33.986 --> 00:15:35.921
  • I mean, he said that from the debate stage,
  • 00:15:35.921 --> 00:15:37.556
  • He was the first one to say it.
  • 00:15:37.556 --> 00:15:38.424
  • The republicans wouldn't say that.
  • 00:15:38.424 --> 00:15:39.992
  • Yeah. for a decade. yeah.
  • 00:15:39.992 --> 00:15:41.527
  • And so the
  • 00:15:41.527 --> 00:15:42.528
  • The fact we're even here is because of trump's
  • 00:15:42.528 --> 00:15:44.397
  • Leadership, i don't think he gets enough credit for that.
  • 00:15:44.397 --> 00:15:46.532
  • Honestly, even some of my skepticism is
  • 00:15:46.532 --> 00:15:48.434
  • I've been probably too slow to give him credit for even,
  • 00:15:48.434 --> 00:15:52.505
  • You know, where we're at currently.
  • 00:15:53.272 --> 00:15:55.274
  • More with mark halperin.
  • 00:15:55.274 --> 00:15:56.976
  • Stay right there. mark,
  • 00:15:56.976 --> 00:16:01.004
  • Stay right there. mark,
  • 00:16:01.004 --> 00:16:07.257
  • We spent a
  • 00:16:07.557 --> 00:16:08.491
  • Lot of our one getting absolutely lambasted
  • 00:16:08.491 --> 00:16:11.061
  • By some of you in this audience
  • 00:16:11.061 --> 00:16:12.929
  • For our criticisms of kristi noem.
  • 00:16:12.929 --> 00:16:15.532
  • We didn't like the luxury jets.
  • 00:16:15.532 --> 00:16:17.033
  • We didn't like the marketing buys
  • 00:16:17.033 --> 00:16:18.601
  • With her prominently featured.
  • 00:16:18.601 --> 00:16:19.903
  • We didn't like her putting that on president trump.
  • 00:16:19.903 --> 00:16:21.771
  • I knew a line had been crossed.
  • 00:16:21.771 --> 00:16:24.040
  • And then, sure enough, by the end of our two mark,
  • 00:16:24.040 --> 00:16:26.242
  • She was out.
  • 00:16:26.242 --> 00:16:27.377
  • And, that was a huge, you know, tectonic shift
  • 00:16:27.377 --> 00:16:32.082
  • In the admin, that was felt across the country politically.
  • 00:16:32.082 --> 00:16:36.152
  • I think this is a huge win for president trump.
  • 00:16:36.152 --> 00:16:38.221
  • I think deportations,
  • 00:16:38.221 --> 00:16:39.522
  • The promises on immigration just to central to his election
  • 00:16:39.522 --> 00:16:43.293
  • And his prospects going forward.
  • 00:16:43.293 --> 00:16:44.994
  • I think we needed a change at the top.
  • 00:16:44.994 --> 00:16:47.163
  • What say you?
  • 00:16:47.163 --> 00:16:48.264
  • Well, i was surprised when she was picked originally
  • 00:16:49.299 --> 00:16:52.435
  • Because it wasn't clear to me what her qualifications
  • 00:16:52.435 --> 00:16:55.138
  • Were for this job, and
  • 00:16:55.138 --> 00:16:58.741
  • She caused a lot of problems for the administration.
  • 00:16:58.741 --> 00:17:00.910
  • It's a really big agency, really
  • 00:17:00.910 --> 00:17:02.445
  • Big department, really hard to run.
  • 00:17:02.445 --> 00:17:04.147
  • Yup. and, both she and corey lewandowski, her
  • 00:17:04.147 --> 00:17:08.585
  • Advisor, have a lot of enemies in the administration.
  • 00:17:08.585 --> 00:17:11.454
  • That's just objective.
  • 00:17:11.454 --> 00:17:12.555
  • That's not, that's not gossip.
  • 00:17:12.555 --> 00:17:15.258
  • It's not, anti maga or anti kristi
  • 00:17:15.258 --> 00:17:18.161
  • Noem and corey lewandowski.
  • 00:17:18.161 --> 00:17:19.496
  • It just an objective fact.
  • 00:17:19.496 --> 00:17:20.897
  • They had made enemies for most of the year
  • 00:17:20.897 --> 00:17:24.400
  • Including among
  • 00:17:24.767 --> 00:17:26.202
  • Some of the most important and impressive
  • 00:17:26.202 --> 00:17:28.004
  • And powerful members of the trump team. so,
  • 00:17:28.004 --> 00:17:31.307
  • The their capacity to stay in the, positions
  • 00:17:32.242 --> 00:17:35.378
  • As long as they did is quite an achievement.
  • 00:17:35.378 --> 00:17:38.014
  • And at the same time, that's so harsh.
  • 00:17:38.014 --> 00:17:41.084
  • I love it. it's really it's true.
  • 00:17:41.084 --> 00:17:43.720
  • So yeah, it's true
  • 00:17:43.720 --> 00:17:44.687
  • That the surprising aspect for you is not that
  • 00:17:44.687 --> 00:17:46.823
  • She was ousted, it was the fact she last as long as she did.
  • 00:17:46.823 --> 00:17:50.360
  • Yeah. yes that's true.
  • 00:17:50.360 --> 00:17:51.928
  • But but but again i go back to the politics in
  • 00:17:51.928 --> 00:17:55.698
  • In our talking about these things,
  • 00:17:55.698 --> 00:17:57.167
  • I think i say respectfully and in
  • 00:17:57.167 --> 00:17:58.968
  • And in the real lives of real people,
  • 00:17:58.968 --> 00:18:01.137
  • The politics needs to follow from the substance.
  • 00:18:01.137 --> 00:18:03.640
  • She was involved in helping control the border.
  • 00:18:03.640 --> 00:18:05.775
  • That's one of the greatest achievements of this president.
  • 00:18:05.775 --> 00:18:08.278
  • So she gets credit for that.
  • 00:18:08.278 --> 00:18:09.913
  • But, but
  • 00:18:09.913 --> 00:18:11.948
  • You can't go to congress under oath
  • 00:18:11.948 --> 00:18:14.150
  • And say the president signed off
  • 00:18:14.150 --> 00:18:15.418
  • On something he didn't sign off on.
  • 00:18:15.418 --> 00:18:17.220
  • That's that's a that's a no brainer
  • 00:18:17.220 --> 00:18:19.322
  • In terms of a firable offense.
  • 00:18:19.322 --> 00:18:21.024
  • At the same time, she did about a dozen
  • 00:18:21.024 --> 00:18:22.959
  • Other things that in a normal president
  • 00:18:22.959 --> 00:18:24.661
  • And a normal cabinet member would have,
  • 00:18:24.661 --> 00:18:26.796
  • Would have put her on at least then i so
  • 00:18:26.796 --> 00:18:29.365
  • I think, i think i just, i just think as an american,
  • 00:18:29.365 --> 00:18:32.035
  • We need this department to be run, run.
  • 00:18:32.035 --> 00:18:33.803
  • Well it really well.
  • 00:18:33.803 --> 00:18:35.471
  • And without this level of controversy.
  • 00:18:35.471 --> 00:18:37.740
  • So i have sort of been hearing whispers.
  • 00:18:38.575 --> 00:18:43.112
  • Mark, i'm curious
  • 00:18:43.112 --> 00:18:43.947
  • If you've heard the same whispers,
  • 00:18:43.947 --> 00:18:45.882
  • Two things i'll let you react to them
  • 00:18:45.882 --> 00:18:47.450
  • In whichever order you want.
  • 00:18:47.450 --> 00:18:48.818
  • Democrats were already planning impeachment
  • 00:18:48.818 --> 00:18:50.620
  • Proceedings using and leveraging some of this,
  • 00:18:50.620 --> 00:18:53.590
  • This, that when she said trump was,
  • 00:18:53.590 --> 00:18:56.859
  • You know,
  • 00:18:57.160 --> 00:18:58.027
  • He had approved some of these contract,
  • 00:18:58.027 --> 00:18:59.729
  • These know, big contracts,
  • 00:18:59.729 --> 00:19:00.763
  • Things like that when he hadn't.
  • 00:19:00.763 --> 00:19:02.365
  • Secondly, i am concerned
  • 00:19:02.365 --> 00:19:05.168
  • Moving forward about what
  • 00:19:05.168 --> 00:19:08.471
  • Let's just say softness might come out of the dhs.
  • 00:19:08.471 --> 00:19:10.673
  • I like senator mark when mullen,
  • 00:19:10.673 --> 00:19:12.442
  • But i'm i'm concerned that he's going to be offering up
  • 00:19:12.442 --> 00:19:16.079
  • Negotiating pieces that might be,
  • 00:19:16.079 --> 00:19:19.115
  • Let's say, unsavory for the base that wants to see,
  • 00:19:19.115 --> 00:19:21.851
  • You know, everybody deported, all illegals, deported.
  • 00:19:21.851 --> 00:19:25.188
  • Take those in whichever order you want.
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  • But he's going to try and get blue states to cooperate,
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  • Just like we've seen in minneapolis.
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  • And i'm just concerned about the negotiation process there
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  • Between between the
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  • Secretary mullen and and democrats. yep.
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  • Yeah.
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  • First of all, i like the fact that he said
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  • Yesterday
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  • He hopes to get democratic support,
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  • You know, in the confirmation process.
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  • And he and he, my,
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  • Senators tend to,
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  • You know, be more inclined to vote for other senators.
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  • And he's, you know, widely considered
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  • One of the nicest members of the, of the congress.
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  • So, fresh start and a possibility to keep up
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  • The policies that are popular and consistent
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  • With the president's agenda and his pledged as a candidate
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  • And, to maybe win over some democratic support,
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  • Which would be good for everybody, be good
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  • Politically for the republicans,
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  • I think, but it'd be good for the country.
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  • The president, and tom homans doesn't appear to be going,
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  • So we'll have to see what that relationship's like.
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  • But the president has a pretty robust agenda.
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  • That deportation
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  • That i think would win broad support,
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  • That maybe not amongst the squad,
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  • But a lot of democrats would support it.
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  • He still has to deal.
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  • And this will be
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  • Part of what a secretary mullen has to address.
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  • What about cracking down on employers?
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  • What about deporting people
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  • Who are in the country illegally,
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  • But having been convicted of other crimes?
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  • That needs to be worked out.
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  • Still, what
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  • What exactly is the next three years look like in terms
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  • Of who gets deported?
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  • But a fresh start is a good thing
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  • Because, you know,
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  • Whether she would have been impeached or not. i don't know.
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  • I think the democrats
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  • Are going to have to think long and hard
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  • About how much they want to talk about impeachment now,
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  • And how much they want to address it
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  • If they do win the majority.
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  • But but,
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  • But i don't pay much attention to it because if they
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  • Impeached everybody who they talked about impeaching,
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  • It's all they would do.
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  • And i don't think they would
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  • Want to use their newfound majority
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  • To just run a bunch of impeachment probes.
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  • So to dig one level deeper, let's just say
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  • Daca, let's say
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  • Amnesty of some sort, let's say more,
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  • You know, work visa, whatever, whatever the offering is.
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  • I what i'm trying to get at here,
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  • Mark, is i am an all they all need to go guy.
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  • Right. you hear this.
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  • Yeah.
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  • This kind of bifurcation within the messaging
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  • That the worst first went to get the criminals.
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  • And then there's the base,
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  • Which a lot of us or a lot of them are like me.
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  • They all need to go.
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  • And what i'm what i'm trying to calibrate
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  • With you dispassionately.
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  • So you're
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  • You're not maga, you're you're kind of sitting outside of it.
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  • What would you brace us for accepting
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  • If we're going to get blue city sanctuary cities to cooperate
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  • And hand over their criminals at jails?
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  • What what do we need?
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  • What what is actually the most popular center?
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  • Kind of this.
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  • Yeah, well, you're on the wrong side
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  • Of public opinion on that question, as i know.
  • 00:22:08.718 --> 00:22:10.920
  • You know, and there's a practical,
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  • A practical, reality.
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  • You know, i used to ask people before
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  • Maga back in like 20, you know,
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  • 2012, 2016, before the president won the nomination.
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  • Do you what do you want to do with the
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  • The 15 million or so who are here illegally?
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  • And most politicians in the republican party
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  • Wouldn't answer the question
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  • Because they know not just what a heavy lift it is
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  • And how expensive it would be on the front end.
  • 00:22:35.878 --> 00:22:38.648
  • But a lot of those people are integral to the economy,
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  • Particularly in two sectors.
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  • The president has a lot of friends who are owners.
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  • Yeah, hospitality and agriculture.
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  • So if you guys want to take the president on on deporting
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  • People who work in agriculture and hospitality, go at it.
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  • But i don't think he has any intention
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  • Of doing that, because every time it comes up,
  • 00:22:56.432 --> 00:22:58.234
  • Some of his friends in hospitality
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  • And ag call him and say, you'd put us out of business.
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  • Yeah.
  • 00:23:02.472 --> 00:23:03.439
  • So they might, they might have broken the law.
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  • They might be a drain on america, tax dollars
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  • In one way or another.
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  • Some of them might commit crimes,
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  • But they're an integral part of the economy.
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  • And i'm not saying they shouldn't
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  • Be removed from the country.
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  • Yeah, i'm just saying there are a lot of people
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  • In the republican party who don't want them removed.
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  • Well, i don't like that answer, but that's why i asked it,
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  • Because i want to know what you think.
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  • Mark halperin, thank you for making the time for us today.
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