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Charlie Kirk Today | Markwayne Mullin & Auron Macintyre: June 30, 2026 | Charlie Kirk Today | June 30, 2026

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Secretary mullen, welcome back to the show, my friend.
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It's good to see you.
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You have been a long time friend of the show.
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But this is be your first time
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In your new role as dhs secretary, so welcome.
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Thanks, andrew.
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Appreciate you having me on.
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It looks like you're in a laundry room.
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Yeah, i'm.
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I'm in this hostage situation.
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Okay. yeah.
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It's like there's a great if you need one.
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If you need a help.
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I think i understand morse code a little bit.
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Just a few times.
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Yeah.
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All right, so we got to get into it
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Here, sir, because i was sick, i was getting
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All these angry texts
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You went on jake tapper, and you're. it.
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I think people interpreted what you were saying
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As you were encouraging these haitian
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Recipients, where the supreme court rightly ruled
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That temporary means temporary, but you were
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Encouraging them to apply and that they could stay.
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I read through the transcript
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And so i, i texted you immediately.
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I was like, are people misinterpret?
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What are you trying to say here?
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So let's let's give you the opportunity,
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What are the options for these tps
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Haitians that now a temporary actually does mean temporary.
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What are the options for them
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And what is the goal of this administration?
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They don't have an option.
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Now the courts ruled they have to go back.
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They don't have to go back to the country they went to.
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They can go.
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They can choose another country and will assist you in that.
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You can self-deport or we're going to pick you up.
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What i was saying on jake
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Tapper is like, people have been here 15, 20 years.
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They had time to change their status if they wanted to
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Because you didn't change your status.
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There's nothing i can do at this point.
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The court has spoken.
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Full stop. period.
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There's no other place to go to change your status.
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Now. you're going to go back to your country.
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You came from, and change your status or,
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And what i mean by changes
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To reapply, to be able to come into the country legally.
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Because as of right now, tps is ended
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And you're currently in the country illegally.
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So i'll give you a $2,600 check and an airline
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Ticket to go back to the country.
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You choose that will accept you or go back to your country
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That you came from.
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So if i'm a if i'm a haitian in springfield
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And i've been there for, let's say, two years or whatever,
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Right now i'm, i'm an illegal.
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And is there a legal process that i could pursue?
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Say, i go to some you know, office somewhere,
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Some immigration lawyer to apply to not get removed?
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Or is that option off the table for them
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If you have current or current status change pending.
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So you filed it before the court, ruled
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You could stay while your court case is going,
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Is being heard
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Or why you're going through the process.
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And then you have a,
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Then you have an option to appeal it.
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That's if you if that's if you had the paperwork filed
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Prior to the court for is the only are you,
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Before the court or ruling.
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Now the difference is if you're married
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To an american citizen
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And you
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Haven't changed your status, but you've been married for,
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You know, not for the point of, being legal or getting a
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Or getting status in the united states.
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But you married out of love,
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And you pass all the qualifications of it.
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You you can at that point apply, for what
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They call a family visa.
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But that's but that's under special circumstances.
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And that special services
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Is because you married an american citizen.
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Outside of that, very few options apply.
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You the the end of the day,
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The temporary status, which is temporary.
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And you got to emphasize that it was never
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Meant to be permanent,
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Even though the democrats want to.
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I don't know how they can finagle
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That word temporary when it was in on.
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And tps is on, you know, language.
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You have to go back to the country to reapply
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To come back in the country in a different legal status.
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Yeah.
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How what percentage of the haitian population
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Living in the united states is like.
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I mean, i don't know if you know this, but like,
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The base wants them all out.
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As you can
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Guess, you gather how many can we just immediately get out?
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And what is the process that dhs is now engaged
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In to identify and locate and remove?
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So there is there's two groups.
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There's a group that came in
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After the earthquake, a year ago.
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And then there's a group that came in underneath
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The biden administration, the biden administration there.
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There is very little, little legal status
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That you can even pursue at this at this point
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Because it's at that's, that was part of the whole tps,
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Lawsuit to begin with, the ones that came in prior
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Or after the, the, earthquake years ago.
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There is a, there's a challenge
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That could possibly be made,
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Like i said, if your status had changed by being married,
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But if you haven't changed
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Your status, there is no percentage
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That can stay.
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If you were just here for tps,
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You don't meet the special circumstances.
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You have no path forward.
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You're here illegally.
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Your work permit is now void.
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You have to go back to change that status
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When you have status in the united states.
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So you come over on a vacation
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Visa or you come over on a h-1b visa and you want to change
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That status
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The way the statute wrote, which is this is congress
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That wrote the statute, the way the statute wrote is
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Written is
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You have to go back to the country that you came from
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To reapply,
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To change the status, to reenter into the country.
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So there is no other path for you.
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We will we will begin deporting individuals immediately.
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In fact, it would be quite frank.
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We already started the enforcement this weekend.
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We have, over the weekend, we set two records.
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I can't tell you where we did the enforcement at,
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But we set two records of daily arrest in ice,
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And we averaged 3500 individuals
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Per day on saturday and sunday.
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Underneath the president's direction and isis leadership.
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So i saw a clip of you saying that we were on,
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On pace right now to break the deportation
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Record set in 2025, in about six weeks.
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Is that correct? right, right.
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We are.
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We're about 100,000 below, what we did last year.
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Actually, we're below 100,000,
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But we'll just round up to 100,000.
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What we did an entire year of 2025, we will surpass
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That, would definitely by the end of august.
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At the rate where we're going right now,
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We're going to probably pass that by the middle of august.
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Keep in mind, we are every single day
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We get better at the system and well organized with it.
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We work directly with the white house.
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We work directly with our partners, and, and,
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And are, adjudicating in this cases, we, we,
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We have a very good system
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On our flights to deporting individuals.
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We have a lot of people now that are starting
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To take advantage of the self-deportation.
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Total.
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We are over 1.3
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Million individuals since president trump has come
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Into office,
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We have either deported or they self-reported, and,
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And we expect to if we if we can continue to increase
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The numbers we're doing right now,
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We could possibly double what we did last year.
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All right.
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And, secretary,
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That people, kind of fixate a lot on the daily amount.
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How many per day are we talking about
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At this new escalated pace?
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And how high do you think it can go?
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Is there
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Is there a goal maybe for next year
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That can even exceed what we've done this year?
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Well it's the there's a being successful
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Also has a downside
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Because you it's like a low hanging fruit.
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You get the low hanging fruit accomplished.
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And then you got to go and really dig in
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And go find the people that are deeply hiding.
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So at some point,
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That self-deportation number is going to start decreasing.
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And we're going to start rounding
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All these individuals up.
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When we start going after the worst of the worst,
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What we found out is the worst of the worst.
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These are individuals
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That have felony charges that the sanctuary cities
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And sanctuary states have let go, or they have,
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Pending charges that once again, sanctuary
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Cities and sanctuary states have let go
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When when we when we go find the individuals, we use,
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They arrest an additional 4.3 individuals
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That are with that one person with a felony.
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And so since we're doing a heavy
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Focus on the worst of the worst,
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We're actually increasing our numbers
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On rounding up all the illegals that are here.
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And we expect that number to continue to increase.
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But we're probably
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Going to hit a plateau sometime early next year.
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But we don't.
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We're really we're
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Every time we think we're about to hit a plateau,
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We continue to find another area
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That we can increase on finding the individuals.
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So, i don't we don't have set speculations
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Or estimates on next year's numbers yet.
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Because we're, we're refining our
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Or redefining our systems that we have right now.
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And, and i really do think that
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That, i my goal is to double what we did last year.
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And i think where you can get i think we can get there.
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Yeah.
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Secretary moore, i just want to give you some.
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Do you you are getting the daily deportation numbers up.
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You're doing it quietly behind the scenes.
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I know
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The haitian thing is charged, and a lot of people had
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An emotional response to that.
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But you are also working within a system
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That has been established before you,
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And you got to do it lawfully, and you got to do it
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The right way, or it could blow up in our face.
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Thank you for taking the time today, sir.
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God bless you.
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God bless you.
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You know,
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I feel for secretary mullen, i put a lot of pressure on him.
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People don't understand this behind the scenes.
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I'm one of probably,
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You know, hundreds of people blowing up saying,
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We need more deportations.
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We need more deportations.
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You know, and he's stuck within a system
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Where he has statutes to follow.
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He has
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Laws and rules and regulations that he's bound by some
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He can sort of trump and get over.
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You know, regardless, his messaging
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This morning was very firm and it was very encouraging.
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And i felt like it was a step
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In the right direction that they got to go.
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If you did not apply before this for summit,
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I mean, many of these people had years, decades, blake,
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To try and stay in the country via a more long lasting route.
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And they did not.
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Those people are got to go.
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And all these tps people
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That are more new newark newly arrived.
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They got to go.
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And i love that
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He that he kind of at least from a messaging standpoint,
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Course corrected their your interpretation. yeah.
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I mean
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People have fussed a lot about mullen
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And a lot of other people
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On the admin because sometimes they will say rhetoric
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Other than maximal, everyone's going to go deportation.
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Not everyone is stephen miller,
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And i understand why people worry about that,
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Because they've been around the block of having
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Politicians who run on a really hardball message
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And then back off,
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But that's why
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It's so important to look at what is actually happening.
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And all of the last year
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And a half, what we have consistently seen
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Under both mullen and under noam
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And in other departments run by others is
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They are consistently rolling back, the rolling back,
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The regulations, rolling back the policies that allowed
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All of the open border stuff that flourished for decades.
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And they're getting their deportation number
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Higher and higher and higher as you said.
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I loved that mullen.
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He was frank
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And said
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We may eventually hit a plateau,
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But we've blown through plateaus in the past.
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They're finding new ways to arrest people.
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They're finding new ways to deport people.
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They're causing more people to self-deport.
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And the number does keep going up, regardless of what
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Whether their rhetoric is always exactly what we want.
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I don't care if they go on tv and say
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Maximum deportations or worst of the worst,
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As long as the number keeps going up.
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And so far it has been.
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Yeah, 3500, 30, 500 deportations
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A day is a very significant new high.
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If you could roll that out for the remainder of trump, 2.0
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Plus the self deportations, i guess we're offering
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$2,600 stipends.
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I would i would increase that. i don't even care.
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Just get them the heck out. that's where i'm at.
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So i like the direction, the tone.
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It's, you know, here's the thing.
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You're you're ad the admin is going to make mistakes.
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What i look for is, are they responsive?
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They might make messaging mistakes.
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But as you said, from a pure execution
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Standpoint it's going in the right direction.
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So we need to stay on them.
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They i mean, listen
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I believe his heart is in the right place.
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I believe he wants to get those deportation numbers up.
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So we're going to stay on him.
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You guys are going to stay on him.
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And that's the way the system works.
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And when they're response, you got to give them their due
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And say, good, you're hearing us.
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That's the that's the way this is supposed to work.
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All right.
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So tomorrow blake we got the biggie.
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The supreme court drops four rulings at once.
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None of them are insignificant.
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They're all big deal.
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So you got the birthright
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Citizenship, which is the one you and i.
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I've been looking at.
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We're not expecting good things there.
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But as bill shipley said in segment 1 or 2,
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He expects them to to to rule narrowly.
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Okay.
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So there could be out clauses that they give us.
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Right.
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Saying kicking it back to congress, which is interesting.
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So then you've got the there's two cases actually.
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And we've heard about this
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From atf that trans athletes in women's sports.
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So dudes and women's sports.
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So there's two different cases
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Split into two cases and they're going to be decided
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Simultaneously. then there's a campaign
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Campaign finance limits as the force.
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So tomorrow is the day.
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Set your calendar is set your alarm.
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We're going to be covering extensively tomorrow.
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Blake, you are not a lawyer, but you do play one on tv.
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You're the best non-lawyer at this stuff that i've seen.
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What are you expecting tomorrow?
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I am frankly not optimistic on the birthright
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Citizenship case.
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For all the reasons we don't want to litigate it.
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What i do want to push back on
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Is there's a lot of dummer ism.
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We even saw dummer ism today with, the decision on day
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Of voting where, you know, i've seen people say
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Our elections are done now it's a bad one.
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It's it's not a good ruling. it's a bad.
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All they did is they preserve the rules under which we won
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The 2024 election, under which we won the 2016 election.
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It's not a great rule, but we have this path.
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Congress could change the law.
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And i know that's a
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Source of endless frustration, but i don't like doom ism
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On this sort of thing.
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And i feel the same way with birthright.
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I don't think we're going to get a good ruling,
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But even any ruling at all is actually better
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Than what we had before,
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Which was just this universal presumption
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That they have birthright
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Citizenship, that it was actually already
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Decided, when in fact, it never was.
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Now we'll have a ruling.
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And that ruling can be a litmus test for every judge
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That trump appoints for the next two years,
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For every judge that a president vance
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Or president rubio or anyone else,
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Any republican in the future appoints,
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It would just become a target for us to go after.
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And that's going to be a good thing.
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Yeah.
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I mean, here's the thing.
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I mean,
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It becomes increasingly more frustrating
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When you think about these haitians.
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A lot of the haitians
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That are under here on tps, they've had kids since
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Being in the united states.
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Those kids are now able to vote
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In future elections and determine
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The future of the united states and western civilization.
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I think that's wrong.
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I think that's completely,
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Bastardization, and a poisoning of u.s.
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Sovereignty, u.s. citizenship.
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I would love for us to get this right.
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It is. it is increasingly frustrating.
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But we also have to remember that
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The way the founders established this country,
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It was intended that congress would act.
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And so we've got a lot of problems here.
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And i'm hearing that
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There is some rumblings on the save america act.
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So all is not lost to your point.
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But i mean, listen, this is frustrating.
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The fact that you can get a ballot five days
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After election,
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This is the third world thing of the united states.
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And yeah, perhaps it wasn't the supreme court's job here.
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And they're saying this is congress's
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Job to define these statutes
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More clearly or narrowly, if that's what they want.
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We have to have a full for our push, for this.
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And and to your point, yeah, we have won elections
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Like this. too big to rig all this.
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Well, we saw in los angeles.
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It's incomprehensible to me that what you saw with spencer
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Pratt, what you saw with steve hilton in california,
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That there would be
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Any other plausible outcome that would make any type
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Of sense. but whatever. i understand we're not dooming.
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We never do mean.
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And a big lesson
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We're getting is we're headed towards a future.
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We need a real congress again.
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And so we'll be discussing that. yes, into the future.
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And so we'll be discussing that. yes, into the future.
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We have oren mcintire, host of the max.
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Our show at, blaze tv.
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So check him out there, or welcome back to the show.
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It's good to have you.
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Thanks for having me, guys.
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So, oren, i love having you on because you're
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Based on immigration.
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Just like me and you.
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You want maximal enforcement at every possible line
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There is imaginable, right? and that's how i feel, too.
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So we just had secretary mullen
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On to kind of explain some of his jake tapper
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Commentary that got, you know, a lot of uproar.
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Let's talk about haitians, though.
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And to his credit,
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By the way, he's sounding a much more firm tone.
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I think he's sort of was getting stuck
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In, in a ideological cul de sac thinking about statutes
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And what the actual process was.
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He says.
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They got to go home. right.
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Just explain to our audience, because you're very good
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At this, the implications, the consequences,
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Why this is so critically important
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To the future of america and thereby
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The all of western civilization.
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Well, hits us on so many levels.
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The obvious one is simply elections
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With our current setup.
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And unfortunately,
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What will probably be the ruling
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From the supreme court right now.
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Anyone who stays in america long enough will have children,
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And those children will have birthright citizenship.
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The fact that also
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The democrats are pretty good at laundering ballots
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And they now also just receive basically a pass to, do,
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You know, counted ballot for a month or two if they need to.
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This means that election fraud is very easy.
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And so the more illegal immigrants you have here,
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Or even those that are here
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Under some form of legal protected status like haitians,
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They will ultimately end up becoming dedicated voters
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For the democratic party, or they will end up producing
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Dedicated voters for the democratic party.
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And this is a fundamental shift in what democracy is supposed
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To be.
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Democracy is supposed to be a reflection
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Of the positions of the people, the popular sovereignty.
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But if you swap out all of the people,
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If you introduce new people
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Constantly who always vote one way,
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Then you are rigging that game.
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You are changing the fundamental
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Nature of elections.
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You are
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Undermining the authority and legitimacy of elections.
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But of course, it goes much deeper than just elections.
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It also impacts our cultures, our neighborhoods.
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People who come into the united states
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Had to at some point assimilate through the years,
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But they tended to people
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Who were closer to the founding stock.
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When we expanded that over time,
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We found different populations that were more similar
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Or less a similar bill,
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And we work with them as much as possible.
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But even when it came to assimilating,
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Say, the germans,
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Which many people think of as very american today,
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There were a lot of challenges there.
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There were very serious issues to overcome.
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And so we have to recognize if it was hard
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To assimilate, say, germans, then haitians
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And other people from third world
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Countries that are very, very different from our own.
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They are only going to be more difficult.
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They are going to break down the character
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Characteristics of neighborhoods.
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Continuity of tradition and heritage and culture.
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And when we bring in so many people
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From so many places that are so hard to adapt,
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We fundamentally
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Make it impossible to have a high trust society.
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And that's something that
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Every american really relies on, even if they can't
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Say that out loud,
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Even if they can't articulate that expectation.
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That is how our society is supposed to run.
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But oren, labor, we need labor.
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Okay?
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Americans,
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You know, they just don't want to do certain jobs.
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Maybe we can phase this out, but obviously, agriculture,
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Hospitality, cooks in the kitchen.
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What do you what are you suggesting here, oren?
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I'm suggesting that we pay americans a wage
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That will allow them to raise families
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And have homes and earn a good living,
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Even if they're not working
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In the highest end of the information economy.
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We have to have a society
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That allows for people who are not going to have,
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You know, some kind of job, rearranging information
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On a screen to still have a good life.
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And that means we can't import
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A bunch of foreign labor to undercut the wages to drain,
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Or rather, to flood the labor pool
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And make it impossible for average americans
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To earn a good wage at that price.
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It's also going to increase things like housing prices,
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Reduce the quality of things like education or medical care.
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So that labor that cheap labor comes with an extreme cost.
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Yes, there are some benefits to different corporations
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And maybe even some consumers that get a cheaper product.
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But there is a a larger society wide
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Cost that is hidden inside those lower wages.
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And we have to remember that.
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You know, one of the things that i find
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Interesting too, is that there does seem to be
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And sorry, i'm not playing devil's
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Advocate here because i just agree too much.
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The point is that when you bring in millions and millions
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And millions of foreigners from foreign cultures,
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There does seem to be this depressive impact
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On the native born population.
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Less kids, less self-confidence, less,
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Of an enterprising spirit, less of a pioneering spirit.
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I don't know what that is,
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But there is something that transacts and transpires
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When you bring in an invading force, millions upon millions,
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Where the native population loses their verve and it's hard
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To put a finger on it,
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It's hard to quantify it, but it is so evident.
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It is so, visible if you're looking for it.
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Once you see it, you can't unsee it.
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And it's hard to
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I, i don't know if you know
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What i'm trying to say here, oren,
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But it is impossible for me not to see it at this point.
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This diversification of cultures
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Creates huge problems in social cohesion.
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People are less likely to trust each other.
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People are less likely to spend time outside in public.
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People are less likely to meet and talk to their neighbor,
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And they are less likely to have children.
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They're less likely to see a vision for their future.
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We, whether we like it or not,
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Have to have a shared identity.
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I know the left has made the word identity toxic,
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But it is actually a critical function of human society
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To create a shared vision and identity
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That people feel like they can be a part of.
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If you're going to have children,
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You're going to have a future.
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If you're going to form a family.
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You need to know
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That those children are going to continue something
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That is valuable to you,
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That they will grow up in a society
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That was much like the one you grew up in.
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Does diet, the desire to reproduce and grow is something
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That comes from a recognition of who we are as a people,
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And if all we are as a people is an economic zone,
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If we're just a bunch of economic opportunities
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That people can come and take advantage of and leave
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Whenever they feel like,
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And we don't owe anything to each other,
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We don't have a shared vision of the future.
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Then, even again,
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If people won't say it out loud,
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They slowly shrink away from forming families,
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From having children,
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From making the sacrifices that allow civilizations
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To thrive.
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No one is going to sacrifice for an economic zone.
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That's what we have to understand.
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My new litmus test is going to be immigration
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Moratorium for anybody that gets in.
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That's that's where i'm at.
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Thank you. mcintyre.
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Markwayne Mullin & Auron Macintyre: June 30, 2026 | Charlie Kirk Today

June 30, 2026 | 23:29

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