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  • International fellowship of christians and jews.
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  • There is news
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  • That there is a well, it's about ten days old.
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  • Uss ford has been in the waters
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  • In the caribbean, outside of venezuela.
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  • There is concern, i think, in maduro's
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  • Inner circle that the us is about
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  • To potentially oust him from power within venezuela.
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  • Meanwhile, you have the venezuelan
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  • Cartel, narco trafficking boats that have caused
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  • A huge controversy, namely with pete hegseth.
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  • It seems as if, blake, that there is a growing,
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  • I would say op, but they are coordinating their efforts.
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  • Democrats are to, hopefully get rid of pete hegseth
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  • And their hope, not my hope, to get rid of pete hegseth.
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  • I think that effort will fail.
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  • But describe this dynamic of what's going on right now
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  • With pete hegseth.
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  • Well,
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  • What's interesting is
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  • In september
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  • They you know, they've been
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  • Doing these strikes on drug boats coming from latin
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  • America towards the united states,
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  • I should say alleged gunboats or drug boats,
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  • And that in september, they identified one of these.
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  • They told hegseth about it because he's the one who has
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  • To approve strikes,
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  • And that,
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  • According to the washington post,
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  • He not merely approved a strike,
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  • But said, basically kill them all in some way.
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  • And so they struck the boat.
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  • It sinks and breaks apart.
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  • But when they're observing it afterwards,
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  • They see that some people on the boat
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  • Are alive and clinging to wreckage.
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  • And rather than leave them there or rescue them
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  • And arrest them or whatever you would do,
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  • They drop another strike on them. yeah.
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  • And we have image 208 here.
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  • This is from the new york times.
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  • So that original story, the double tap story
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  • That they're alleging is a war crime.
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  • It was reported by the washington post.
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  • Now, the new york times
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  • Has issued a follow up reporting that reads
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  • That basically is a giant rebuttal to it.
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  • And the new york times says, according to five u.s.
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  • Officials who spoke separately and on the condition of
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  • Anonymity to discuss sensitive matters
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  • That are under investigation, mr.
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  • Headset, ahead of the september 2nd attack, ordered a strike
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  • That would kill the people on the boat
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  • And destroy the vessel and its purported cargo of drugs.
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  • But each official said mr.
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  • Headset's directive
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  • Did not specifically address what should happen
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  • If a first missile turned out
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  • Not to fully accomplish all of those things,
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  • And the officials said his order was not a response
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  • To surveillance footage showing that
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  • At least two people on the boat survived the first blast.
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  • Admiral bradley, the other character
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  • In this saga, ordered the initial missile strike
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  • And then several
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  • Follow up strikes that killed
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  • The initial survivors and sank the disabled boat.
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  • As that operation unfolded, they said mr.
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  • Headset did not give any further orders to him.
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  • So this is a direct rebuttal that, to the original story,
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  • Which suggested that pete headset was sort of in the room
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  • Pulling the levers, ordering the strikes.
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  • A follow up double tap, as you call it, to kill survivors.
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  • Now, the new york times is saying
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  • There was an initial directive
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  • That it should be a lethal strike.
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  • And then admiral bradley was the one who was actually
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  • Directing those now.
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  • Pete, headset has come out and said
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  • Admiral bradley has 100% of his support,
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  • That he stands by him, that america is lucky
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  • To have somebody of his stature and ability in the position
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  • That he's in. but
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  • Is this all part of a
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  • Broader effort by democrats to now go after peace?
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  • What's interesting here is what some have speculated on,
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  • And i don't know if we'll learn more about this,
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  • But what's really crazy is this all happened
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  • Just in the days after we had that very strange video
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  • They drop where they're
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  • Sort of implying you might get illegal orders,
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  • You know, not not saying anything in particular.
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  • And they're very evasive when they're confronted about it.
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  • They are going on tv and saying, you know, i don't
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  • I don't know of any specific illegal orders, but,
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  • You know, we're just, you know, hypothetically,
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  • If hypothetically, anything were to occur
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  • And they're taking that pose and suddenly this drops and
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  • These people in this case, u.s.
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  • Senators are not
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  • And lawmakers are not unaware of what is going on.
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  • They have contacts with reporters,
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  • Especially friendly reporters.
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  • And, one of them, slotkin, is like a cia veteran and such.
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  • And so they it seems very possible
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  • They may have known this story was coming
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  • And they were essentially it was all a process to
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  • Seed this story, to talk about, oh, illegal orders,
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  • You know, possibly coming out and then bam, here's
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  • Another story saying there is illegal orders.
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  • And now they've got their preferred framing and,
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  • You know,
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  • You could say this is an attempt to bring down hedges,
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  • But it's much more than that.
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  • It's an attempt
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  • To bring down
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  • The administration because they don't want
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  • Hegseth scalp here and just oh, you slot in a new guy
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  • What they want.
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  • They actually want that whole defy orders thing.
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  • They want to delegitimize and break down
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  • The apparatus of government for this administration.
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  • Because if they can't,
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  • You know,
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  • If the national guard just starts
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  • Defying the president, you're at a constitutional crisis
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  • Point where the administration can crumble.
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  • Well, and it's it's important to note,
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  • I first of all, i completely agree.
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  • I believe this was coordinated.
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  • This isn't orchestrated, op.
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  • And it's a pr op.
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  • It's also deadly serious because,
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  • We'll play this clip in just a bit.
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  • But, you know, senator eric schmitt
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  • Is basically saying that this has all the hallmark,
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  • Hallmarks of a color
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  • Revolution of ceding the ground for that.
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  • And then what was interesting is this story has played out
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  • Is i kept expecting
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  • Because they got caught with egg on their face.
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  • They've admitted that,
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  • That they're not alleging anything has been illegal
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  • Thus far necessarily.
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  • But then they will allude to these drug boat strikes.
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  • Right.
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  • So then i kept watching and expecting them
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  • To fall back and say, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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  • And mark kelly and slotkin and some of the others
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  • Have gone on a full tour of pr.
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  • I mean, they're hitting cnn,
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  • Msnbc, writing op eds, doing social media videos.
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  • And that was
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  • I think the tell is that they keep diving
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  • In, drilling the story deeper and deeper and deeper.
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  • And then you have mark kelly yesterday,
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  • Who gives a whole press conference,
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  • Which was just wild.
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  • He alleges that trump was trying
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  • His threatened to kill him.
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  • But then when pressed, was forced to admit that, you know,
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  • He wasn't actually speaking about any specific thing.
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  • 192 on who this president is and who the secretary
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  • Of defense is, is, and specifically things
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  • That the president has said in the past and things he was
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  • Talking about doing in the future.
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  • So we were looking forward
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  • To try to head something off at the past
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  • That could have been really, really bad.
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  • So it wasn't about this specific thing.
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  • No one threatened to kill senator mark kelly
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  • Telling the military to refuse
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  • Orders is the controversy.
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  • They started it.
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  • Mark kelly and elissa slotkin and all these,
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  • They are the ones that started it
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  • With their insane video.
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  • What the president was doing was simply pointing out
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  • The seriousness of of seditious behavior.
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  • He was pointing to the fact that,
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  • Yeah, if you are guilty
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  • Of these things, one of the punishments
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  • Is the death penalty.
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  • That's just a fact.
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  • And the white house even later confirmed that
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  • President trump was not calling for him to be killed.
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  • He was pointing out that this was a serious offense.
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  • Mark kelly has spent years in uniform.
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  • He knows full well that calling it reminds me of military
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  • Orders is illegal.
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  • It reminds me of that,
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  • The start of the first trump administration,
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  • Where it would be something and they would just
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  • There was like, you know, the trump administration,
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  • Like when flynn was, you know, possibly,
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  • You know, talks to the russian ambassador
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  • And they're like,
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  • Oh, well, he he may be implied a diplomatic concession here.
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  • My gosh, the logan act, the logan logan act
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  • That carries infinity years in prison in the maximum penalty.
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  • No, exactly. we'll do this.
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  • The press does this all the time.
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  • Someone gets charged with something
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  • With a maximum of 800 years,
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  • And then they get like an administrative,
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  • You know, slap on the wrist or something.
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  • But this is what drives me nuts, is
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  • He is playing the victim.
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  • And why?
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  • Simply because the chain of command
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  • Is being reasserted by those who are actually in charge,
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  • Those who actually have power, namely
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  • Secretary of war pete hegseth
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  • And the president of the united states,
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  • The commander in chief.
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  • The wounds from
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  • October 7th didn't fade when the headlines did.
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  • Behind me rises
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  • A new rehabilitation home for israel's wounded soldiers.
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  • One of many urgent projects israel needs right now.
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  • Entire communities shattered.
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  • Families displaced.
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  • And each day,
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  • The impact of the need grows even more overwhelming.
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  • But the bible says it clearly.
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  • The righteous will live by faith and by faith.
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  • The fellowship is rolling up our sleeves
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  • And stepping into this immense challenge.
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  • Helping mothers who don't know where to begin again.
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  • Standing with paralyzed heroes.
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  • Fighting to take their first steps.
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  • Building centers of healing for the wounded
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  • And the traumatized.
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  • Bringing food and comfort to elderly israelis
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  • Who have no one else to care for them.
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  • To see the life saving work of the fellowship.
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  • Unfolding across israel right now.
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  • Visit ifc's dawg.
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  • Visit ifc's dawg.
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  • I know i already brought up the new york times
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  • Once today, and i'm loath to do it a second time.
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  • But they do have a new article out, saying and it's titled
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  • Rotating beds and cell phones maduro's plan to outlast trump.
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  • President trump's threat of military action
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  • Has, confronted president nicolas
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  • Maduro of venezuela with the gravest challenge
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  • Of his crisis ridden, ridden reign yet.
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  • And so basically, the story goes on to report that he's
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  • Upped his personal security with a bunch of cuban,
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  • Guns for hire that his personal security
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  • Is has been ramped up.
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  • But he's trying to save face in public
  • 00:10:01.392 --> 00:10:03.661
  • By acting like everything's fine.
  • 00:10:03.661 --> 00:10:05.563
  • He's doing tiktok videos of him crashing a wedding
  • 00:10:05.563 --> 00:10:07.699
  • And dancing with people and all kinds of stuff.
  • 00:10:07.699 --> 00:10:10.501
  • So he's trying to put on a strong and a brave face.
  • 00:10:10.501 --> 00:10:13.638
  • However, behind the scenes, he's
  • 00:10:13.638 --> 00:10:15.273
  • Terrified that president trump is about
  • 00:10:15.273 --> 00:10:16.874
  • To oust him from power,
  • 00:10:16.874 --> 00:10:17.875
  • Which brings up a whole larger conversation.
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  • Geopolitical in nature, about
  • 00:10:21.412 --> 00:10:24.749
  • Should we be meddling in venezuela at all?
  • 00:10:24.749 --> 00:10:28.720
  • I, i certainly don't think charlie would be enthusiastic
  • 00:10:29.854 --> 00:10:33.825
  • About that.
  • 00:10:33.825 --> 00:10:34.926
  • I think we've had we've been through this pattern.
  • 00:10:34.926 --> 00:10:38.296
  • I do i will admit, i suspect
  • 00:10:38.296 --> 00:10:41.232
  • Toppling venezuela would be not as bad
  • 00:10:41.232 --> 00:10:44.502
  • As toppling libya or afghanistan.
  • 00:10:44.502 --> 00:10:47.972
  • Latin americans don't have quite the same history
  • 00:10:47.972 --> 00:10:51.075
  • As middle easterners of going, doing insane terrorism,
  • 00:10:51.075 --> 00:10:55.146
  • Suicide, terrorism, you know, for the nihilistic love of it.
  • 00:10:55.146 --> 00:10:58.716
  • They don't have radical islam.
  • 00:10:58.716 --> 00:11:00.718
  • All of those are in play.
  • 00:11:00.718 --> 00:11:01.619
  • There's more of a legit
  • 00:11:01.619 --> 00:11:02.620
  • Opposition movement in venezuela.
  • 00:11:02.620 --> 00:11:04.255
  • All of those things, i think would make it easier
  • 00:11:04.255 --> 00:11:06.357
  • And less damaging.
  • 00:11:06.357 --> 00:11:07.391
  • But i think at the same time,
  • 00:11:07.391 --> 00:11:09.527
  • We've just seen this
  • 00:11:09.527 --> 00:11:10.661
  • Bill of goods before of, it'll be really easy
  • 00:11:10.661 --> 00:11:13.331
  • In and out, in and out. in five minutes.
  • 00:11:13.331 --> 00:11:15.133
  • It'll be really cheap, really easy.
  • 00:11:15.133 --> 00:11:16.701
  • And how often has that really played out?
  • 00:11:16.701 --> 00:11:19.871
  • Even in wars we've won, it hasn't necessarily
  • 00:11:19.871 --> 00:11:22.573
  • Played out the way we expected.
  • 00:11:22.573 --> 00:11:24.175
  • Yeah.
  • 00:11:24.175 --> 00:11:25.109
  • Well and you've got to imagine that they have
  • 00:11:25.109 --> 00:11:27.745
  • There has been behind the scenes discussions.
  • 00:11:27.745 --> 00:11:29.647
  • We've we know for a fact that president
  • 00:11:29.647 --> 00:11:31.249
  • Trump and nicolas maduro have spoken.
  • 00:11:31.249 --> 00:11:33.451
  • Maduro being the, the, dictator of venezuela.
  • 00:11:33.451 --> 00:11:37.555
  • And the the interesting part here is you got maria corina
  • 00:11:37.555 --> 00:11:40.424
  • Machado, who's the opposition leader.
  • 00:11:40.424 --> 00:11:42.460
  • Now, remember when she was awarded the nobel peace prize?
  • 00:11:42.460 --> 00:11:45.730
  • She dedicated it to president trump.
  • 00:11:45.730 --> 00:11:47.799
  • She certainly knows.
  • 00:11:47.799 --> 00:11:48.833
  • She certainly knows how to make a sell. yeah.
  • 00:11:48.833 --> 00:11:50.568
  • So you you have to imagine that there was
  • 00:11:50.568 --> 00:11:53.504
  • There was optics involved there.
  • 00:11:53.504 --> 00:11:54.705
  • There was a strategy involved from her perspective.
  • 00:11:54.705 --> 00:11:56.774
  • Now, a lot of international watchdogs suggest that she
  • 00:11:56.774 --> 00:12:00.444
  • Actually won the election and that nicolas
  • 00:12:00.444 --> 00:12:02.313
  • Maduro stole it, which does seem to be true.
  • 00:12:02.313 --> 00:12:05.983
  • And so you do kind of wonder, are there underlying realities
  • 00:12:05.983 --> 00:12:09.520
  • On the ground in venezuela that would
  • 00:12:09.520 --> 00:12:11.556
  • Sort of seem to your point, that
  • 00:12:12.256 --> 00:12:13.991
  • That would seem to suggest that
  • 00:12:13.991 --> 00:12:15.293
  • If maduro was taken out of power, that there would be a,
  • 00:12:15.293 --> 00:12:18.663
  • A, a nucleus of power and influence within that
  • 00:12:18.663 --> 00:12:22.166
  • Country that could assume power in a more constructive way.
  • 00:12:22.166 --> 00:12:25.236
  • Now, here's the thing. i mean, i totally agree with you.
  • 00:12:25.236 --> 00:12:27.672
  • I think charlie would be against this
  • 00:12:27.672 --> 00:12:29.173
  • Because, listen, we have domestic issues
  • 00:12:29.173 --> 00:12:31.209
  • That we need to, need to address head on.
  • 00:12:31.209 --> 00:12:35.112
  • Now, here's the argument for this.
  • 00:12:35.112 --> 00:12:37.615
  • Now, i think that the admin
  • 00:12:37.615 --> 00:12:38.983
  • Is playing a little bit of 3d chess.
  • 00:12:38.983 --> 00:12:41.552
  • I do, and i don't mean to
  • 00:12:41.552 --> 00:12:42.687
  • I know that we use that expression in it's cliche,
  • 00:12:42.687 --> 00:12:45.489
  • But i do think that under the president,
  • 00:12:45.489 --> 00:12:47.491
  • President trump's administration,
  • 00:12:47.491 --> 00:12:49.460
  • We have seen a reassertion of the monroe doctrine, right?
  • 00:12:49.460 --> 00:12:52.296
  • This this western hemisphere centric, foreign policy
  • 00:12:52.296 --> 00:12:56.901
  • Where, hey, we're going to we're going to take back
  • 00:12:56.901 --> 00:12:58.636
  • Control of the panama canal.
  • 00:12:58.636 --> 00:13:00.171
  • We're going to strike key alliances
  • 00:13:00.171 --> 00:13:02.974
  • With people like, bukele in el salvador.
  • 00:13:02.974 --> 00:13:06.077
  • We're going to reassert,
  • 00:13:06.077 --> 00:13:07.645
  • Dominance within south america.
  • 00:13:07.645 --> 00:13:11.082
  • Right.
  • 00:13:11.082 --> 00:13:11.883
  • And our our malay, a friendship
  • 00:13:11.883 --> 00:13:14.652
  • That we've struck up, the leader of argentina.
  • 00:13:14.652 --> 00:13:17.321
  • So you do sort of see the makings of this.
  • 00:13:17.321 --> 00:13:19.757
  • Now, the other piece i will say is that venezuela and cuba
  • 00:13:19.757 --> 00:13:22.560
  • Work hand in hand.
  • 00:13:22.560 --> 00:13:23.561
  • You see this
  • 00:13:23.561 --> 00:13:24.161
  • The fact that
  • 00:13:24.161 --> 00:13:25.096
  • Cuban guards are now, part of the private
  • 00:13:25.096 --> 00:13:28.199
  • Security detail for nicolas maduro.
  • 00:13:28.199 --> 00:13:29.767
  • You see it with the sharing of intelligence.
  • 00:13:29.767 --> 00:13:32.003
  • Now, people don't know this, but the cuban intelligence
  • 00:13:32.003 --> 00:13:34.372
  • Is one of the most formidable in the world.
  • 00:13:34.372 --> 00:13:37.375
  • Basically, they have no exports.
  • 00:13:37.375 --> 00:13:38.676
  • They have no goods. besides, you know, cigars.
  • 00:13:38.676 --> 00:13:40.912
  • They used to have sugar, a crazy thing.
  • 00:13:40.912 --> 00:13:42.613
  • Something like 20% of cuba's population has apparently left
  • 00:13:42.613 --> 00:13:45.416
  • Since about 2019. really?
  • 00:13:45.416 --> 00:13:47.351
  • It's a it's a really messed up country.
  • 00:13:47.351 --> 00:13:49.453
  • More so than people realize. i think you're right.
  • 00:13:49.453 --> 00:13:51.022
  • And and but one of their exports
  • 00:13:51.022 --> 00:13:52.990
  • That they sell to places like venezuela is intelligence.
  • 00:13:52.990 --> 00:13:56.794
  • So they've, they've infiltrated
  • 00:13:56.794 --> 00:13:58.529
  • In a lot of places within the, lower 48.
  • 00:13:58.529 --> 00:14:01.565
  • They know stuff that venezuela wants to pay for, right,
  • 00:14:01.565 --> 00:14:04.335
  • In other places. so that's another piece.
  • 00:14:04.335 --> 00:14:06.671
  • A dynamic here is that if you if you do topple venezuela,
  • 00:14:06.671 --> 00:14:09.840
  • If you do if you maduro and you put in this maria
  • 00:14:09.840 --> 00:14:13.210
  • Karina machado, you get two regimes,
  • 00:14:13.210 --> 00:14:15.313
  • Two regime changes,
  • 00:14:15.313 --> 00:14:16.380
  • Which probably will not blow up in our faces at all
  • 00:14:16.380 --> 00:14:19.183
  • Because we've learned our lesson.
  • 00:14:19.183 --> 00:14:20.785
  • I just i actually kind of don't think that that's
  • 00:14:20.785 --> 00:14:23.020
  • What they're going for. i think president trump
  • 00:14:23.020 --> 00:14:24.822
  • Is trying to do the carrot and stick.
  • 00:14:24.822 --> 00:14:27.358
  • He's he's saber rattling to get nicolas
  • 00:14:27.358 --> 00:14:30.094
  • Maduro to leave on his own.
  • 00:14:30.094 --> 00:14:31.128
  • I liked the idea of
  • 00:14:31.128 --> 00:14:32.263
  • Just give him $500 million and he can go live wherever.
  • 00:14:32.263 --> 00:14:36.133
  • And what stinks is we'd have more credibility on that
  • 00:14:36.133 --> 00:14:38.769
  • If we'd stuck to our guns with, gadhafi instead.
  • 00:14:38.769 --> 00:14:42.373
  • Yeah, yeah, there is a
  • 00:14:42.373 --> 00:14:43.741
  • We're not a trustworthy actor in the palace.
  • 00:14:43.741 --> 00:14:45.977
  • There's a reason
  • 00:14:45.977 --> 00:14:47.078
  • Not to trust our our, our foreign policy promises.
  • 00:14:47.078 --> 00:14:49.847
  • We're going to have michael knowles
  • 00:14:49.847 --> 00:14:51.248
  • Join us next to help make sense of all of this and more.
  • 00:14:51.248 --> 00:14:54.251
  • Don't go anywhere.
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  • That christmas morning.
  • 00:14:59.690 --> 00:15:01.292
  • Wise men brought gifts from outside the holy land.
  • 00:15:01.292 --> 00:15:06.097
  • But now that the war is over,
  • 00:15:06.731 --> 00:15:09.734
  • This holy land and her people
  • 00:15:09.734 --> 00:15:11.635
  • Are still carrying deep wounded.
  • 00:15:11.635 --> 00:15:14.405
  • Many of the elderly are alone and suffering
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  • Like the wise men or wise women.
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  • When you open your heart and give a special holiday food
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  • Box to someone here in israel
  • 00:15:26.684 --> 00:15:29.387
  • This christmas chronicles season.
  • 00:15:29.387 --> 00:15:32.456
  • People like hannah who can't buy food.
  • 00:15:32.456 --> 00:15:36.827
  • That's where the fellowship is called to feed the hungry.
  • 00:15:36.827 --> 00:15:41.065
  • Please call, scan or go online now to help rush emergency
  • 00:15:41.065 --> 00:15:45.136
  • Food and healing to elderly jews
  • 00:15:45.136 --> 00:15:47.238
  • And their christian neighbors struggling
  • 00:15:47.238 --> 00:15:49.006
  • To rebuild their lives from the war.
  • 00:15:49.006 --> 00:15:51.175
  • What will happen when we make this holy day season?
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  • Holy indeed.
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  • Holy indeed.
  • 00:15:58.009 --> 00:16:03.121
  • Michael knowles welcome
  • 00:16:03.622 --> 00:16:05.023
  • Back to the charlie kirk show, my friend. good to see you.
  • 00:16:05.023 --> 00:16:07.492
  • What's going on, man? good to be here.
  • 00:16:07.492 --> 00:16:09.094
  • I'm not going to ask you about catholicism.
  • 00:16:09.094 --> 00:16:12.297
  • I think we should. we should have a reason.
  • 00:16:12.297 --> 00:16:13.598
  • We should never meet the pope after six months.
  • 00:16:13.598 --> 00:16:15.267
  • Oh, you get that.
  • 00:16:15.267 --> 00:16:16.601
  • Ask me about on text
  • 00:16:16.601 --> 00:16:18.070
  • If you ever want to talk about all.
  • 00:16:18.070 --> 00:16:19.571
  • I want to talk about the weekend.
  • 00:16:19.571 --> 00:16:21.106
  • Well, okay.
  • 00:16:21.106 --> 00:16:22.140
  • Blake's going to ask you to grade the pope in,
  • 00:16:22.140 --> 00:16:23.708
  • In just a few minutes here, after the person carrying
  • 00:16:23.708 --> 00:16:26.778
  • Baseball bats on planes, there was an ice dance party.
  • 00:16:26.778 --> 00:16:29.948
  • There was a nice ball. yeah, yeah. yes.
  • 00:16:29.948 --> 00:16:31.983
  • But not with the first question.
  • 00:16:31.983 --> 00:16:34.553
  • Okay, so this is actually where we're going to start it.
  • 00:16:34.553 --> 00:16:37.022
  • I want you to sort of make sense
  • 00:16:37.022 --> 00:16:39.157
  • Of our political moment that we find ourselves in.
  • 00:16:39.157 --> 00:16:41.793
  • There is all this consternation about venezuela, about pete
  • 00:16:41.793 --> 00:16:45.063
  • Hegseth, and, you know, were these war crimes was there
  • 00:16:45.063 --> 00:16:48.033
  • Double tap? the new york times seems to suggest it's not.
  • 00:16:48.033 --> 00:16:51.236
  • It does
  • 00:16:51.470 --> 00:16:52.604
  • Have this feeling of a, of a messaging op, sort of.
  • 00:16:52.604 --> 00:16:56.908
  • They roll out this this suspicious video,
  • 00:16:56.908 --> 00:16:59.511
  • The seditious six is as there is there being labeled.
  • 00:16:59.511 --> 00:17:02.380
  • And then all of a sudden
  • 00:17:02.380 --> 00:17:03.548
  • We get this whole inquiry into the venezuelan cartel,
  • 00:17:03.548 --> 00:17:07.052
  • Narco trafficking, you know, strikes.
  • 00:17:07.052 --> 00:17:10.555
  • What do you make of this moment?
  • 00:17:10.555 --> 00:17:12.290
  • Why are they so fixated on pete?
  • 00:17:12.290 --> 00:17:15.026
  • Headset.
  • 00:17:15.026 --> 00:17:16.661
  • They've been going after pete hegseth since before the guy
  • 00:17:16.661 --> 00:17:19.197
  • Was confirmed. i mean, let's not forget this.
  • 00:17:19.197 --> 00:17:21.399
  • You know, a lot of us know pete.
  • 00:17:21.399 --> 00:17:22.868
  • Not just people who were friends with pete,
  • 00:17:22.868 --> 00:17:24.136
  • But who have watched pete every morning on fox news.
  • 00:17:24.136 --> 00:17:27.038
  • And, you know, he's been a public figure for a long time.
  • 00:17:27.038 --> 00:17:29.574
  • And more than any other member of this cabinet,
  • 00:17:29.574 --> 00:17:32.010
  • The democrats seemed absolutely devoted
  • 00:17:32.010 --> 00:17:35.113
  • To torpedoing him before he he came in as secretary of war.
  • 00:17:35.113 --> 00:17:39.818
  • And so, to me, if i didn't know anything else
  • 00:17:39.818 --> 00:17:42.654
  • About venezuela, i ran anything about the military.
  • 00:17:42.654 --> 00:17:46.224
  • If all i knew is that this guy was the chief target
  • 00:17:46.224 --> 00:17:49.161
  • In the cabinet for the democrats,
  • 00:17:49.161 --> 00:17:51.263
  • I would be defending him wholeheartedly.
  • 00:17:51.263 --> 00:17:53.365
  • Now, on top of that,
  • 00:17:53.365 --> 00:17:55.200
  • You've had a very, very effective
  • 00:17:55.200 --> 00:17:56.668
  • Military strategy under trump
  • 00:17:56.668 --> 00:17:58.003
  • Recruitment way up, getting a lot of the woke out
  • 00:17:58.003 --> 00:18:01.406
  • In terms of the policy, the military itself,
  • 00:18:01.406 --> 00:18:03.074
  • Then obviously very, very successful
  • 00:18:03.074 --> 00:18:04.776
  • Military operations in the middle east.
  • 00:18:04.776 --> 00:18:06.678
  • Now we're looking at operations in latin america.
  • 00:18:06.678 --> 00:18:09.114
  • So i think he's doing a very good job generally.
  • 00:18:09.114 --> 00:18:11.583
  • But i just take it simply on a rule of thumb,
  • 00:18:11.583 --> 00:18:14.286
  • If he's the guy they want to take out,
  • 00:18:14.286 --> 00:18:16.288
  • He's probably the guy i'm going to be defending.
  • 00:18:16.288 --> 00:18:18.456
  • Yeah, that's exactly been my posture as well.
  • 00:18:18.456 --> 00:18:20.492
  • It's like,
  • 00:18:20.492 --> 00:18:20.959
  • We must be over,
  • 00:18:20.959 --> 00:18:21.893
  • Over the mark here
  • 00:18:21.893 --> 00:18:22.928
  • With with secretary hegg seth, because they want
  • 00:18:22.928 --> 00:18:25.430
  • To get him out so badly.
  • 00:18:25.430 --> 00:18:26.298
  • But this is part of this larger.
  • 00:18:26.298 --> 00:18:28.833
  • There's two basically at this point we diverge in a word.
  • 00:18:28.833 --> 00:18:31.736
  • Right.
  • 00:18:31.736 --> 00:18:32.404
  • There's two main through lines
  • 00:18:32.404 --> 00:18:33.672
  • Narratives that are going on right now.
  • 00:18:33.672 --> 00:18:34.940
  • There is this.
  • 00:18:34.940 --> 00:18:35.607
  • We had the national guard
  • 00:18:35.607 --> 00:18:37.108
  • Attack the ambush by an afghan refugee.
  • 00:18:37.108 --> 00:18:40.278
  • And that brings up this whole foreign policy conversation
  • 00:18:40.278 --> 00:18:43.748
  • In and of itself.
  • 00:18:43.748 --> 00:18:44.449
  • But then meanwhile,
  • 00:18:44.449 --> 00:18:45.617
  • There's all this intrigue around venezuela.
  • 00:18:45.617 --> 00:18:47.519
  • Are we going to strike?
  • 00:18:47.519 --> 00:18:48.420
  • Are we going to, you know, we're moving
  • 00:18:48.420 --> 00:18:49.854
  • Carriers into the region and maga in the base
  • 00:18:49.854 --> 00:18:53.525
  • Typically has been postured in a way that says, we
  • 00:18:53.525 --> 00:18:56.861
  • Don't want to get involved in any more foreign entanglements.
  • 00:18:56.861 --> 00:18:59.731
  • We don't want blood and death overseas.
  • 00:18:59.731 --> 00:19:02.000
  • We want to focus domestically.
  • 00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:03.802
  • What would you like to see play out in the next days
  • 00:19:03.802 --> 00:19:08.240
  • And weeks ahead
  • 00:19:08.240 --> 00:19:09.074
  • When it comes
  • 00:19:09.074 --> 00:19:10.141
  • To venezuela specifically, and then we'll get into
  • 00:19:10.141 --> 00:19:12.344
  • Our own immigration debate that we're also having?
  • 00:19:12.344 --> 00:19:15.113
  • Yeah,
  • 00:19:15.113 --> 00:19:15.914
  • I love the way you put it, andrew,
  • 00:19:15.914 --> 00:19:17.015
  • Because it's kind of a confounding issue for maga.
  • 00:19:17.015 --> 00:19:19.951
  • If the question were about some never ending regime change
  • 00:19:19.951 --> 00:19:23.488
  • War in the middle east or africa or something,
  • 00:19:23.488 --> 00:19:26.591
  • I think maga would be unified.
  • 00:19:26.591 --> 00:19:27.926
  • Say, we don't want that at all.
  • 00:19:27.926 --> 00:19:29.794
  • However, this is a little different
  • 00:19:29.794 --> 00:19:31.563
  • Because this is much closer to home.
  • 00:19:31.563 --> 00:19:34.032
  • The monroe doctrine, which says america runs
  • 00:19:34.032 --> 00:19:36.101
  • The western hemisphere,
  • 00:19:36.101 --> 00:19:37.168
  • Has been our official policy since 1823.
  • 00:19:37.168 --> 00:19:40.205
  • This involves a direct threat to americans,
  • 00:19:40.205 --> 00:19:42.807
  • Which is all the drugs that are coming largely
  • 00:19:42.807 --> 00:19:45.043
  • From venezuela and specifically to foreign terrorist
  • 00:19:45.043 --> 00:19:47.779
  • Organizations that are associated with
  • 00:19:47.779 --> 00:19:49.214
  • The regime, kills over 75,000 americans a year.
  • 00:19:49.214 --> 00:19:52.083
  • It also involves hard resources.
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  • One of the funniest things
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  • About president trump's foreign policy is how open he is.
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  • He says, you know, we didn't go to war for oil in iraq,
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  • But we at least should have gotten the oil.
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  • You know, natural resources really do matter.
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  • And, you know, this is our hemisphere.
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  • So i think it's a little dicier on what what americans are
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  • Thinking about it.
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  • Look, the ideal scenario is you completely destroy
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  • The narco terrorists.
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  • You wage a real war on drugs,
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  • Meaning you blow up all the guys who were
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  • Smuggling the drugs and and killing american kids.
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  • You take, a hostile dictator who is partnering up
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  • With a lot of our enemies,
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  • And you replace him with
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  • Someone who's maybe a little friendlier to us.
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  • And maybe that also helps the energy market, too.
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  • That's what everyone wants in the ideal.
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  • The question is, can can they pull this kind of thing off?
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  • I think they're going to get a lot more, grace from the base
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  • In terms of actions in latin america.
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  • The only question is, does the military, the cia, whatever
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  • The us government
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  • Do, we have a serious plan in place to to replace maduro
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  • If they actually want regime change?
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  • Because there's two views of the cia.
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  • One is james bond, jason bourne.
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  • You know, they control everything, the supervision.
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  • The other one is burn after reading.
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  • Like everything the cia tries to do
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  • Turns to ash and gets worse.
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  • And those are the that's the debate right now.
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  • What is really, going on here?
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  • All i will say on this, i favor a much more restrained
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  • Foreign policy that is much closer to home,
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  • That involves much more direct american interests.
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  • While i will say with trump is he has the most effective
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  • Foreign policy of my lifetime, probably including george h.w.
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  • Bush.
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  • And so
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  • I'm willing to give the guy
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  • A little bit more grace here,
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  • Because he just hasn't bungled it all up
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  • Like clinton did, like george w bush did,
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  • And certainly like obama and biden.
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  • The monroe doctrine was not just
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  • We dominate every country in western hemisphere.
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  • It was keeping foreign europeans at the time.
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  • And i imagine you could count
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  • Chinese today and russia, russia, of course.
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  • Out of the hemisphere, not influencing it.
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  • And yeah, well, you saw this in panama, right?
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  • The panama canal.
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  • President trump goes in and reasserts u.s.
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  • Dominance over the canal,
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  • Which was being taken over by china, actually,
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  • And so we were getting treated very poorly in the canal. so
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  • Let's switch our attention here, michael.
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  • We're kind of doing hopscotch here on topics, but the
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  • The other main story is the president.
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  • And now kristi noem, pam
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  • Bondi coming down hard on third world migration.
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  • Now i made a prediction that this was going to be
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  • President trump's most popular policy plank yet.
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  • And i mean, including the wall,
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  • Including the southern border.
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  • And we had rich barris on yesterday
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  • Who seems he's doing polling on this.
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  • And the initial results seem to indicate
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  • That this is, in fact, very, very appealing with the base.
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  • So you've got these.
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  • There's a confluence of two different stories,
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  • Foreign policy, which is always a snake pit
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  • Full of vipers, full of surprises, full of,
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  • Backlash for the president in the administration.
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  • And then you've got his hardline immigration stance.
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