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  • All right, i want to get into something
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  • Because i've been texting back and forth with rich barris,
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  • Who we have on the show a lot. he's a pollster,
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  • And he keeps sending me these, like, signals.
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  • He's like, andrew, you don't understand.
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  • They're getting more and more radical.
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  • The democrat party of the last generation is dead.
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  • They are beholden to the activist base
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  • And slowly are being transformed into dsa.
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  • Most democrats essentially
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  • Ascribe to socialism 100%. so.
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  • So they're not like, you know, capital.
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  • Is that like to distribute the wealth?
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  • No, they're actually legitimately socialist now.
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  • So when you get black pilled on president trump,
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  • If you're tempted
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  • To give in to nihilism or doom or ism, do you not understand
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  • That what we're up against is a socialist behemoth
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  • That is growing in size, and they're becoming more
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  • And more radicalized?
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  • I mean, if you want to
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  • In a tremendous, a tremendous crisis because, yeah, we
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  • We but we lucked out in america, frankly,
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  • That the democrat party has always been left wing.
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  • But we dodged having this very large
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  • Socialist, overtly marxist party.
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  • The way is very common in europe.
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  • It's very common throughout the third world.
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  • Unfortunately, we have imported the third world to america,
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  • And we've imported third world ideologies.
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  • And that means we have young people,
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  • The hassan piker, followers of this world,
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  • The aoc followers of this world, the.
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  • As we're about to see bernie
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  • Sanders, followers of this world
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  • Who actually just embrace socialism,
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  • Government ownership of the means of production and,
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  • Abolishing private ownership of things,
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  • Abolishing private property. yeah.
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  • So let's just go ahead and play this.
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  • This is bernie sanders.
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  • This is big new idea, millions of engagements.
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  • It's not a new idea.
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  • This is this is as old as marxism itself,
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  • But nevertheless, he's presenting it as a new idea.
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  • 32 in the coming weeks, i will introduce the american
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  • I sovereign wealth fund act.
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  • This legislation would give the public
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  • A direct ownership stake in the largest
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  • Ai companies in america through a one time
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  • 50% tax, not on profits, but on stock.
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  • It would guarantee that the trillions potentially
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  • Created by ai, i use to improve the lives of all of us,
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  • Not simply to make the richest people on earth even richer.
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  • So, blake,
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  • You're a scholarly man and you know the constitution.
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  • Where in the constitution does it say you can just seize
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  • The means of production?
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  • I will so you actually, the sad thing is, is you could
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  • You would just have to compensate them for it.
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  • Although that's why he's clearly framing it as a tax.
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  • If he says if i frame it as a tax,
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  • Then it's not a takings the way it usually would be.
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  • If the government
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  • Is going to seize your house,
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  • Then they have to pay you for this.
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  • So like things like eminent domain. yeah, exactly.
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  • I mean, they have to pay you
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  • For the house for public purpose.
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  • But if he's framing it as a
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  • Tax, clearly his gambit is we can just take 50%
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  • Of your company. and it's a tax.
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  • It's not a taking.
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  • You don't have to pay them
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  • $500 billion or whatever it would be for it.
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  • And it's also,
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  • Besides being the scholar of the constitution,
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  • Scholar of history,
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  • It's a very sinister
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  • Thing that he's doing, because if you want to look,
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  • It's very easy to spin this on people.
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  • Oh, ai is big. it's rich.
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  • We're taking it for the public good.
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  • But so many countries declines begin
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  • When you decide to
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  • Have the government take over what is a thriving
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  • Private sector endeavor.
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  • Britain.
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  • Britain used to be as rich as the united states.
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  • Britain used to be the world's most powerful empire.
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  • They did it on the backs of free enterprise.
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  • They were
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  • The silicon valley of their day was central england.
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  • And then they nationalized everything.
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  • After world war two, they went in a very socialist direction.
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  • Britain's never been the same since they did that.
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  • And you can just say america, there's a reason
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  • America generated all these big ai companies that,
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  • However you feel about them, have been tremendously
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  • Successful and innovative.
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  • And they're not coming up out of latin america,
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  • They're not coming out of europe.
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  • Those are countries that don't have our successful
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  • Private sector. exactly.
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  • So america legitimately has all these advantages
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  • That are baked into the cake that we we fail to understand
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  • And appreciate now
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  • And then, these new wave of dsa democrats, socialists
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  • Or whatever,
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  • Which is just code
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  • For basically socialists to communists,
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  • They're somewhere on the spectrum
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  • Is they are misrepresenting our our history.
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  • They don't appreciate the capital markets
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  • And the way they move
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  • With such ease and fluidity, and how massive a boon
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  • That is to entrepreneurs and guys like mamdani.
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  • You know, bernie sanders was the forerunner
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  • Of a lot of this stuff.
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  • I mean, he vacationed, he honeymooned in russia.
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  • Okay, let's just put bernie sanders in a certain.
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  • And by the way, you think russia is all this
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  • Great, like, listen,
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  • Russia is putin's right about some things, okay?
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  • That does not mean that russia.
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  • Oh, this is honeymoon in russia.
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  • He humming them in the soviet union.
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  • Fair enough.
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  • But here's this is why it's nerve,
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  • Nerve wracking to me
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  • Is because you got mom donny saying the same things.
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  • Bernie is soft. 33.
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  • We have to continue
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  • To elect more socialists, and we have to ensure
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  • That we are unapologetic about our socialism.
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  • There are also other issues that we firmly believe in,
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  • Whether it's bds right, or whether it is the end goal
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  • Of seizing the means of production
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  • Where we do not have the same level of support
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  • At this very moment.
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  • And what i want to say is that it is critical,
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  • The way that we organize, the way that we set up our,
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  • You know, set up our work and our priorities,
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  • That we do not leave any one issue for the other,
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  • That we do not meet a moment and only look at what people
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  • Are ready for,
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  • But that we are doing both of these things in tandem.
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  • Go, go
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  • Look at average incomes in the united states
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  • Since the great recession
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  • In 2008 versus how it's gone in europe.
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  • Europe used to be pretty comparable to us in incomes.
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  • Now we're lapping them
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  • And the reason we're lapping them is
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  • We have a more free market system.
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  • They have stagnated, we have grown, and we frankly
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  • Should not abandon that.
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  • And another thing to highlight, especially with i
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  • You think a government that owns 50% of ai
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  • And then we might have a
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  • Democratic administration again eventually,
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  • Inevitably we will because we have elections.
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  • Everything is subordinate to leftism.
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  • For the left.
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  • You think they're going to
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  • Maybe demand, oh, your ai models,
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  • What sort of world do we want you to build?
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  • Hate speech.
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  • How much hate speech do you allow?
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  • Let's make sure these weights are, you know,
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  • Liberalism is embedded in this system.
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  • They will do that if they get their way.
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  • It is a siren song.
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  • Deny it, reject it, spit it out.
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  • Deny it, reject it, spit it out.
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  • Without further ado, i will
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  • Introduce our guest in studio, and that's mike cavanaugh.
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  • Welcome to welcome to the studio.
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  • Thank you guys. yeah.
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  • So i first connected with you just like on twitter
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  • Dm actually. yeah.
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  • And i noticed you you had written a song after
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  • Charlie was assassinated, and i thought it was so beautiful.
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  • And i could tell that
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  • Your heart was just so in this, like, in the right space
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  • And in your heart was to tell charlie story and to to lift up
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  • A great man in a world that is unaccustomed to doing so.
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  • But that was my perception.
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  • Why did you write a tribute song to charlie kirk?
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  • Mike? yeah.
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  • Well, they it happens.
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  • Like many of us, i was, had a lot of emotions.
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  • Anger was one of them. and,
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  • You know, i didn't consider right away writing a song.
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  • I actually, a friend of mine had written
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  • A song about charlie kirk,
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  • And i happened to see it on x, and, i commented on it.
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  • I said, like, good job, good song.
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  • And and then he said, your turn.
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  • And i put the idea in my head, and then i, i was
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  • Everything was still very raw.
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  • I mean,
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  • I think it was only a few days after it happened,
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  • So my emotions were still very raw.
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  • And i remember picking up the guitar and,
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  • You know, thinking, know, maybe i do have something to say.
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  • And about ten, 15 minutes of like strumming around.
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  • I remember just like saying out loud,
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  • I don't really have a song today.
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  • And and then
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  • I said, well, that could be
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  • A line of a song, and it just kind of went from there.
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  • Yeah, yeah.
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  • Isn't that interesting? kind of.
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  • When you
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  • You get stripped bare of,
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  • Like, what you think you're supposed to say
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  • And you just say what you actually.
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  • That's right.
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  • Mean and feel what's real.
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  • How you kind of end up arriving at a deeper truth.
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  • I've seen this song everywhere now on x,
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  • It's really blown up.
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  • And one of the,
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  • You know, people that have been promoting
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  • It is our friend tommy robinson over in the uk.
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  • You went over to the uk
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  • To sing this song live in front of like
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  • Tens of thousands of people. yeah.
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  • What was that like? it's incredible.
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  • Very.
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  • And how did you get connected with tommy?
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  • Yeah, same thing on zoom.
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  • It can be an amazing place. it can be a crazy place to.
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  • But yeah, i know he,
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  • He heard my music, and so i made
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  • Got to come over and sing it.
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  • Yeah. i can't really do.
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  • And, and so, yeah, we connected and,
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  • Yeah, he's like, we're doing a charlie kirk tribute.
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  • We love you to sing the song.
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  • And the rest is history. yeah. it's incredible.
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  • It really speaks to just what,
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  • What a figure he was around the world that we saw.
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  • We saw memorials in in britain.
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  • We saw them in serbia.
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  • We saw them in japan, in korea, and even in groups
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  • You wouldn't expect.
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  • I remember a religious service in charlie's honor was at a,
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  • I'm not sure what they call it,
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  • But like a sikh temple, they had a service in honor of.
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  • I heard stories, out of iran, believe it or not, of, like,
  • 00:09:31.728 --> 00:09:35.799
  • Missionaries in iran.
  • 00:09:35.799 --> 00:09:36.900
  • These iranian kids are getting converted and chart.
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  • When charlie was killed,
  • 00:09:40.237 --> 00:09:41.238
  • They were just filled with the holy spirit.
  • 00:09:41.238 --> 00:09:43.306
  • And they went out proclaiming the gospel.
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  • They said of charlie, it was courageous enough to do this.
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  • You know, we want to be courageous like charlie.
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  • I just say, i've never seen
  • 00:09:49.546 --> 00:09:50.414
  • That many people be silent before.
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  • Two during the tribute footage.
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  • I mean, it was really something.
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  • Yeah, i do believe god was honored in that.
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  • I believe i know it, i know it.
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  • It's, this one of our friends said
  • 00:10:01.191 --> 00:10:03.460
  • The holy spirit was humming like a tuning fork.
  • 00:10:03.460 --> 00:10:05.996
  • And in that memorial, why don't we play the song?
  • 00:10:05.996 --> 00:10:10.033
  • Sounds great.
  • 00:10:10.033 --> 00:10:11.201
  • And, this is
  • 00:10:11.535 --> 00:10:13.403
  • Tell us the name and and, all of that.
  • 00:10:13.403 --> 00:10:16.640
  • Yeah.
  • 00:10:16.640 --> 00:10:17.741
  • The name of the song is called the voice of the age.
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  • You can find it on itunes if you enjoy it.
  • 00:10:19.509 --> 00:10:22.079
  • And it is a tribute to charlie kirk.
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  • I don't have a song today.
  • 00:10:38.061 --> 00:10:42.499
  • I can't seem to find the right words to say.
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  • I remember a time when.
  • 00:10:48.872 --> 00:10:53.777
  • Freedom ring.
  • 00:10:54.144 --> 00:10:58.749
  • A talking to your neighbor
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  • In the same.
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  • Now he lost the voice.
  • 00:11:14.598 --> 00:11:17.134
  • And he gunned down
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  • In a mass rage.
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  • I don't want a civil war. no,
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  • And god knows what it's for. the.
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  • Gonna say his name.
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  • Charlie.
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  • Kirk. diamond.
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  • Do not be.
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  • Now, lord,
  • 00:11:55.639 --> 00:11:56.540
  • Bring revival to the land.
  • 00:11:56.540 --> 00:12:00.277
  • Christ is lord.
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  • On the lips of every woman.
  • 00:12:01.845 --> 00:12:04.047
  • Man, a widow cries out. i.
  • 00:12:04.047 --> 00:12:10.520
  • Forgive you now, man.
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  • Let's go free.
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  • I'm gonna say his name.
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  • Charlie kirk.
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  • That might not be you.
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  • Gonna say his name.
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  • Charlie kirk, that martin.
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  • I mean, you know.
  • 00:12:44.855 --> 00:12:49.192
  • You. you.
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  • You gonna say his name?
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  • Charlie.
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  • Kirk.
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  • I'm might not name.
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  • Yeah.
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  • Amen.
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  • Well, she was here with us and told me to vote.
  • 00:13:15.919 --> 00:13:18.655
  • Only god knows, right?
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  • Yes. he's with the lord.
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  • Yeah.
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  • That's beautiful man. thank you.
  • 00:13:23.660 --> 00:13:25.161
  • Thank you so much.
  • 00:13:25.161 --> 00:13:26.863
  • Thank you.
  • 00:13:26.863 --> 00:13:28.565
  • We played some of the clips that you put together.
  • 00:13:28.565 --> 00:13:32.802
  • Studio did a great job actually thinking it up with your
  • 00:13:32.802 --> 00:13:35.372
  • Lyrics, so good job. studio.
  • 00:13:35.372 --> 00:13:38.275
  • What is,
  • 00:13:38.541 --> 00:13:41.011
  • What is it been like writing this song
  • 00:13:41.011 --> 00:13:42.646
  • And the reaction from people and, you know,
  • 00:13:42.646 --> 00:13:44.648
  • And the bigger question, what does charlie sort of mean,
  • 00:13:44.648 --> 00:13:48.451
  • Do you think
  • 00:13:48.785 --> 00:13:49.552
  • As you've toured the song around
  • 00:13:49.552 --> 00:13:50.987
  • And you've seen people's reaction?
  • 00:13:50.987 --> 00:13:52.956
  • Yeah, it's a great question.
  • 00:13:52.956 --> 00:13:55.725
  • Yeah.
  • 00:13:55.725 --> 00:13:56.760
  • Charlie, i mean, he was obviously so gifted and,
  • 00:13:56.760 --> 00:14:00.330
  • Intelligent and charismatic and all these things,
  • 00:14:00.330 --> 00:14:03.733
  • But i really think
  • 00:14:03.733 --> 00:14:04.734
  • The biggest thing about him was his courage.
  • 00:14:04.734 --> 00:14:06.937
  • And i think that that's what resonates with people.
  • 00:14:06.937 --> 00:14:09.205
  • It's certainly what resonated with me.
  • 00:14:09.205 --> 00:14:10.707
  • Because i think the thing about courage is you don't
  • 00:14:10.707 --> 00:14:13.610
  • You don't need to be have all those, gifted.
  • 00:14:13.610 --> 00:14:17.213
  • You don't need to be gifted like charlie to have courage.
  • 00:14:17.213 --> 00:14:18.982
  • You can have the ordinary person can have courage.
  • 00:14:18.982 --> 00:14:21.584
  • And so to see a christian man who,
  • 00:14:21.584 --> 00:14:24.220
  • Had courage, the courage of his convictions
  • 00:14:24.220 --> 00:14:27.023
  • And,
  • 00:14:27.223 --> 00:14:28.692
  • I think that's what resonates with resonated with me.
  • 00:14:28.692 --> 00:14:31.094
  • That's,
  • 00:14:31.094 --> 00:14:32.228
  • I think, resonating with other people with the song.
  • 00:14:32.228 --> 00:14:34.364
  • Yeah. yeah. he,
  • 00:14:34.364 --> 00:14:36.499
  • He said he wanted to be
  • 00:14:37.000 --> 00:14:38.601
  • Remembered for courage, for his faith.
  • 00:14:38.601 --> 00:14:40.337
  • And he always talked about
  • 00:14:40.337 --> 00:14:41.471
  • Courage and said the crazy good thing about courage
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  • Is that you don't need to be skilled to have it right.
  • 00:14:45.175 --> 00:14:47.811
  • It's a choice. that's right.
  • 00:14:47.811 --> 00:14:49.112
  • And i think i ripped him off with my quote.
  • 00:14:49.112 --> 00:14:51.214
  • Yeah, yeah.
  • 00:14:51.214 --> 00:14:51.881
  • You know, it's fair though.
  • 00:14:51.881 --> 00:14:53.350
  • I mean, he he would tell that to people.
  • 00:14:53.350 --> 00:14:55.452
  • It's like, okay, you don't have a degree okay.
  • 00:14:55.452 --> 00:14:56.987
  • You don't have any special skills. at least not yet.
  • 00:14:56.987 --> 00:14:59.356
  • Do you have courage?
  • 00:14:59.356 --> 00:15:00.590
  • You can choose to have courage. yeah.
  • 00:15:00.590 --> 00:15:02.459
  • And i think like when i first met charlie,
  • 00:15:02.459 --> 00:15:04.694
  • That was the thing that stood out to me too.
  • 00:15:04.694 --> 00:15:07.030
  • Was that how.
  • 00:15:07.030 --> 00:15:07.697
  • How boldly he said things?
  • 00:15:07.697 --> 00:15:09.399
  • He didn't couch things.
  • 00:15:09.399 --> 00:15:10.667
  • And sort of, i think or i believe or
  • 00:15:10.667 --> 00:15:14.004
  • You might disagree or with like he just said it said it.
  • 00:15:14.004 --> 00:15:16.906
  • Yeah. yeah.
  • 00:15:16.906 --> 00:15:18.375
  • I think to myself, just self-reflect.
  • 00:15:18.375 --> 00:15:21.845
  • And after the song,
  • 00:15:21.845 --> 00:15:22.846
  • After charlie died,
  • 00:15:22.846 --> 00:15:23.947
  • I had realized, like in my own life,
  • 00:15:23.947 --> 00:15:25.348
  • I hadn't shown a whole lot of courage.
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  • And i think when he died, something did change within me.
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  • And i said, you know,
  • 00:15:30.687 --> 00:15:32.489
  • Because i think if
  • 00:15:32.489 --> 00:15:33.590
  • If more of us were courageous and speaking the truth
  • 00:15:33.590 --> 00:15:36.026
  • Boldly, it wouldn't have had to have happened, you know,
  • 00:15:36.026 --> 00:15:39.963
  • And so i, i
  • 00:15:40.296 --> 00:15:41.197
  • Felt partly like, man, that's part of it.
  • 00:15:41.197 --> 00:15:44.000
  • Yeah.
  • 00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:44.634
  • So that's really, i mean,
  • 00:15:44.634 --> 00:15:47.437
  • That's quite a thing you just said.
  • 00:15:48.171 --> 00:15:50.407
  • Yeah.
  • 00:15:50.407 --> 00:15:52.642
  • That's an encouragement, i guess, to me and to blake,
  • 00:15:52.642 --> 00:15:55.545
  • To all of us, to everybody watching, listening.
  • 00:15:55.545 --> 00:15:58.114
  • Keep going.
  • 00:15:58.114 --> 00:15:59.115
  • If more of us were courageous. yes.
  • 00:15:59.115 --> 00:16:01.351
  • You know, people like charlie wouldn't have to live in fear.
  • 00:16:01.351 --> 00:16:04.821
  • Yeah.
  • 00:16:05.055 --> 00:16:06.156
  • That some crazy person, you know could do something.
  • 00:16:06.156 --> 00:16:08.958
  • All of us, if all of us were courageous,
  • 00:16:08.958 --> 00:16:11.394
  • I don't think the entire world couldn't stop.
  • 00:16:11.394 --> 00:16:14.397
  • Yeah. the gospel, the movement.
  • 00:16:15.031 --> 00:16:17.700
  • Yeah. yeah.
  • 00:16:17.700 --> 00:16:19.002
  • And well geez, mike,
  • 00:16:19.002 --> 00:16:21.137
  • We're going to have to kind of reset in the break here,
  • 00:16:21.137 --> 00:16:24.507
  • Get our, get our wits about remind everyone
  • 00:16:24.507 --> 00:16:26.443
  • Where can they find us. yes.
  • 00:16:26.443 --> 00:16:27.677
  • So go to itunes right?
  • 00:16:27.677 --> 00:16:29.145
  • Yes, itunes i do the age.
  • 00:16:29.145 --> 00:16:31.281
  • The voice of the age, mike cavanaugh.
  • 00:16:31.281 --> 00:16:33.616
  • And put it put his name on the lower
  • 00:16:33.616 --> 00:16:36.419
  • Because you want to make sure people can spell it, right.
  • 00:16:36.419 --> 00:16:38.655
  • Mike cavanaugh, go to itunes.
  • 00:16:38.655 --> 00:16:41.224
  • That's it.
  • 00:16:41.224 --> 00:16:42.392
  • We want this chart, this song to chart off the charts.
  • 00:16:42.392 --> 00:16:45.428
  • So go to itunes right now.
  • 00:16:45.428 --> 00:16:47.764
  • Buy the song. support. mike.
  • 00:16:47.764 --> 00:16:49.399
  • He's done a beautiful thing
  • 00:16:49.399 --> 00:16:50.900
  • For charlie, and, he has all our all our support
  • 00:16:50.900 --> 00:16:57.004
  • For charlie, and, he has all our all our support
  • 00:16:57.004 --> 00:17:03.213
  • We put on concerts at turning point.
  • 00:17:03.980 --> 00:17:05.815
  • It's hard.
  • 00:17:05.815 --> 00:17:06.483
  • Yeah.
  • 00:17:06.483 --> 00:17:07.484
  • Like a lot of artists are are scared of that.
  • 00:17:07.484 --> 00:17:08.818
  • Yeah. what's it like for you?
  • 00:17:08.818 --> 00:17:11.354
  • Yeah.
  • 00:17:11.354 --> 00:17:13.623
  • Sort of around,
  • 00:17:13.623 --> 00:17:15.492
  • The time i wrote the song is in a 4 or 5 month period.
  • 00:17:15.492 --> 00:17:18.928
  • There is really the.
  • 00:17:18.928 --> 00:17:19.696
  • When i started experimenting,
  • 00:17:19.696 --> 00:17:21.364
  • Putting my toe
  • 00:17:21.364 --> 00:17:21.865
  • In the water and,
  • 00:17:21.865 --> 00:17:22.866
  • And writing songs that were about the issues
  • 00:17:22.866 --> 00:17:25.168
  • Of the day more specifically.
  • 00:17:25.168 --> 00:17:26.903
  • And, it's been sort of like this
  • 00:17:26.903 --> 00:17:30.073
  • Polarization of some people are just like, that's great.
  • 00:17:30.073 --> 00:17:33.476
  • And then the war,
  • 00:17:33.476 --> 00:17:34.911
  • Some of the worst hate you can imagine, as you guys,
  • 00:17:34.911 --> 00:17:37.847
  • I'm sure, understand.
  • 00:17:37.847 --> 00:17:38.915
  • But, yeah, i think, like, you know, that
  • 00:17:38.915 --> 00:17:43.887
  • Charlie helped push me into that because i
  • 00:17:43.887 --> 00:17:46.556
  • What i realized is, like, nobody cares if you're just
  • 00:17:46.556 --> 00:17:48.925
  • I mean, as a christian, like, i sing about sin, i sing,
  • 00:17:48.925 --> 00:17:52.061
  • I use the word sin, i use the word.
  • 00:17:52.061 --> 00:17:54.063
  • And everyone's kind of like, that's great.
  • 00:17:54.063 --> 00:17:56.266
  • Good for you.
  • 00:17:56.266 --> 00:17:57.367
  • Once you start naming the actual sins of the age,
  • 00:17:57.367 --> 00:18:00.270
  • That's when you know it pricks everybody.
  • 00:18:00.270 --> 00:18:02.972
  • And but in order for the holy spirit
  • 00:18:02.972 --> 00:18:04.707
  • To convict the person, they can't just be,
  • 00:18:04.707 --> 00:18:08.044
  • Understand that there's sin in general.
  • 00:18:08.044 --> 00:18:10.747
  • You have to understand what
  • 00:18:10.747 --> 00:18:11.915
  • The sin is in order to turn and be and be saved.
  • 00:18:11.915 --> 00:18:14.717
  • So i kind of like that just kind of clicked with me
  • 00:18:14.717 --> 00:18:18.488
  • Somewhat recently.
  • 00:18:18.488 --> 00:18:19.589
  • God kind of showed that to me. and,
  • 00:18:19.589 --> 00:18:22.625
  • And so but like all of these issues
  • 00:18:23.359 --> 00:18:25.228
  • Are wrapped up in politics,
  • 00:18:25.228 --> 00:18:26.529
  • But they're also all just biblical issues.
  • 00:18:26.529 --> 00:18:29.699
  • They're not there's not this separate category of politics.
  • 00:18:29.699 --> 00:18:32.569
  • And this other category is like,
  • 00:18:32.569 --> 00:18:34.470
  • God stuff like god's all truth is god's truth.
  • 00:18:34.470 --> 00:18:36.940
  • God cares about all these things.
  • 00:18:36.940 --> 00:18:38.741
  • And and, we should be talking about that.
  • 00:18:38.741 --> 00:18:41.444
  • So you guys do everything that's, i'm glad
  • 00:18:41.444 --> 00:18:43.947
  • You said that,
  • 00:18:43.947 --> 00:18:44.814
  • Because that actually it's so similar
  • 00:18:44.814 --> 00:18:46.082
  • To what charlie would talk about that
  • 00:18:46.082 --> 00:18:48.184
  • You can't separate the two because everything relates to
  • 00:18:48.184 --> 00:18:51.387
  • The gospel.
  • 00:18:51.387 --> 00:18:52.088
  • Everything relates to questions
  • 00:18:52.088 --> 00:18:53.389
  • Of sin and moral righteousness
  • 00:18:53.389 --> 00:18:56.459
  • And also, i think,
  • 00:18:56.459 --> 00:19:00.129
  • Getting back to courage, that's what made charlie
  • 00:19:00.129 --> 00:19:02.365
  • Such an icon.
  • 00:19:02.365 --> 00:19:03.199
  • He was he was an icon to young people,
  • 00:19:03.199 --> 00:19:04.834
  • Even though he was routinely
  • 00:19:04.834 --> 00:19:06.169
  • Going on campuses, going on tiktok, going on x and saying,
  • 00:19:06.169 --> 00:19:09.973
  • Here's all these things i know all of you love to do.
  • 00:19:10.974 --> 00:19:13.142
  • All of them are bad. you should stop doing them.
  • 00:19:13.142 --> 00:19:15.245
  • You should just get married. you should have kids.
  • 00:19:15.245 --> 00:19:17.347
  • Yeah.
  • 00:19:17.347 --> 00:19:18.147
  • Just no premarital sex, drugs. no.
  • 00:19:18.147 --> 00:19:20.516
  • You know, no debating it like we call it licentiousness.
  • 00:19:20.516 --> 00:19:23.453
  • Our founders called it licentiousness. he named it.
  • 00:19:23.453 --> 00:19:25.622
  • He preached a gospel against this time.
  • 00:19:25.622 --> 00:19:28.258
  • And yet he was loved by millions of people who
  • 00:19:28.258 --> 00:19:31.894
  • Many of them didn't necessarily follow him, many of them,
  • 00:19:31.894 --> 00:19:33.963
  • If they did it very imperfectly so.
  • 00:19:33.963 --> 00:19:35.832
  • But they recognized how tremendous he was,
  • 00:19:35.832 --> 00:19:39.602
  • And that he 100% lived what he preached and believe.
  • 00:19:39.602 --> 00:19:42.872
  • We are temples of the holy spirit,
  • 00:19:42.872 --> 00:19:44.574
  • And we are designed to
  • 00:19:44.574 --> 00:19:45.975
  • To recognize truth when we hear it. amen.
  • 00:19:45.975 --> 00:19:48.411
  • It resonates in our spirit.
  • 00:19:48.411 --> 00:19:50.480
  • And music is very powerful.
  • 00:19:50.480 --> 00:19:51.914
  • Yes. that purpose. yeah, yeah.
  • 00:19:51.914 --> 00:19:53.416
  • And it's been used for
  • 00:19:53.416 --> 00:19:56.219
  • It powerfully for the wrong end so much.
  • 00:19:56.219 --> 00:19:58.655
  • And i just, i when i get to heaven, god willing, i'm
  • 00:19:58.655 --> 00:20:02.292
  • Going to ask the lord why music has been
  • 00:20:02.292 --> 00:20:05.895
  • So bastardized in corrupted and used for such.
  • 00:20:05.895 --> 00:20:09.999
  • I mean, i think it's because it is so powerful and
  • 00:20:09.999 --> 00:20:12.869
  • And the enemy of goodness
  • 00:20:12.869 --> 00:20:14.537
  • Understands the power of music. yes.
  • 00:20:14.537 --> 00:20:16.806
  • So when somebody chooses to use that art form
  • 00:20:16.806 --> 00:20:21.010
  • In a powerful way to, to to sing truth, to speak
  • 00:20:21.010 --> 00:20:24.113
  • Truth, it's it's incredibly powerful.
  • 00:20:24.113 --> 00:20:26.916
  • And i think that's ultimately
  • 00:20:26.916 --> 00:20:28.217
  • Why some of the memorial people remember it.
  • 00:20:28.217 --> 00:20:30.086
  • It was like exposing millions of people to actual worship.
  • 00:20:30.086 --> 00:20:35.358
  • Yeah. and so like prostrated worship.
  • 00:20:35.358 --> 00:20:37.727
  • It was amazing. yeah.
  • 00:20:37.727 --> 00:20:38.628
  • That event was incredible.
  • 00:20:38.628 --> 00:20:40.530
  • Did you watch it live?
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  • Yeah, it did, i mean, being in the room.
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  • Yeah. and there's some some b-roll of it.
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  • I, it was profound because,
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  • You know, we all go to the.
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  • Not we all,
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  • But those of us who go to church on sundays
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  • And we worship like, sometimes your heads in
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  • And sometimes you're not.
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  • And in this moment, it was like we were all so gutted.
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  • Yeah.
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  • And so traumatized by
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  • What had just happened to to be in that room
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  • Like the lord had our full attention.
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  • Yeah.
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  • And and it it really, truly was a powerful,
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  • Powerful moment to see so many prominent
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  • People in government,
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  • Other places get up in the mic and proclaim
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  • The gospel was i never thought i would see.
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  • I know even like 5 or 6 years ago, i.
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  • I never would've thought i'd see
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  • Something like that, but it was.
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  • And you could see the
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  • They were moved by the holy spirit as well,
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  • Like i've told this
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  • Story before, but you know, jd vance, i'm in, i'm backstage.
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  • I'm watching his speech because they had it,
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  • You know, it's on the teleprompters.
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  • And he ad libbed the best line out of his speech,
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  • Which is that
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  • I've talked about jesus christ more in the last two weeks
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  • And a half in my entire political career.
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  • But public life.
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  • And that wasn't on the script.
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  • He just it came to him and he proclaimed jesus's
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  • Name loudly and without shame or embarrassment.
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  • And that was powerful.
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  • It was powerful for our nation.
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  • And one of the reasons i love having you here
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  • Is because there's been
  • 00:21:56.072 --> 00:21:56.706
  • Some debate about whether
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  • The revival has been blunted or if it's been hijacked.
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  • And i say no because i believe what god has unleashed.
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  • Man cannot stop.
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  • And you are living proof of that.
  • 00:22:05.314 --> 00:22:06.849
  • And that that this song is gaining traction and gaining
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  • Attention from guys like tommy robinson in the uk.
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  • And real america's voice is now, getting behind
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  • What you're doing as well.
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  • And we want this thing to chart.
  • 00:22:16.392 --> 00:22:18.294
  • So if you want to see god's revival, continue.
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  • If you want to see charlie's legacy, continue to to spread
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  • And and become more and more important, back
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  • This song back mike cavanaugh
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  • And the truth that he's singing in it.
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  • Go to itunes, pick it up.
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  • The voice of the age.
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  • I love that title, by the way.
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  • Thanks, man.
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  • It's it took a while to come up with it.
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  • It's so apropos for charlie.
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  • Yeah, i think so.
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  • Final 30s to you, mike.
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  • What do you what do you want people to take away from this?
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  • And what's your encouragement for them?
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  • Yeah, i mean,
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  • As much as i want to honor charlie in the song, i want to
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  • Honor our lord and savior jesus christ above all.
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  • And so i would just want to say,
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  • Repent of your sins and
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  • Believe in him,
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  • And you can have eternal salvation,
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  • Because that really is the message.
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  • And that is what the truth of everything that charlie
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  • Spoke, the truth all pointed, was going toward that.
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  • And i was what i know what he wanted the most.
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  • And that's what that's what i want the most as well.
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  • Yeah, it's it's not necessarily popular to say,
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  • But it's the most
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  • Powerful thing you can say it is repent and be saved.
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  • Turn to jesus.
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