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Charlie Kirk Today | Mike Davis: May 04, 2026 | Charlie Kirk Today | May 4, 2026
- So there's a person named,
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- And it's so funny because i learned about this
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- Story this morning, and i was like,
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- Her name is vivian kubrick.
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- Okay, so vivian
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- Apparently didn't like,
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- Erica's remarks earlier this week,
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- And she went on some unhinged, rant, basically,
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- Attacking, turning point, attacking erica.
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- And i was like, who is this person?
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- Like, you know what? why do i care?
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- Well, it's
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- Because she's the estranged daughter of the now deceased
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- Director stanley kubrick, who did a lot of famous movies.
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- I think his last one was that creepy one with,
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- Nicole kidman and times wide shut, eyes wide shut.
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- That's right.
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- So what's that?
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- He did the shining, the shining,
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- My favorite paths of glory, black and white, world war one.
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- Oh, i've not seen that. oh, it's a good.
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- Okay. well, interesting.
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- Yeah.
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- I mean, a very illustrious director,
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- But she's a daughter of a director, so, like, who cares?
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- But anyways, i took note of it because she basically says,
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- That president trump needs to kill turning point.
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- So that was like in this
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- Whole unhinged rant you see, right there in new york post,
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- President trump, you know, ask
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- President trump to kill turning point usa.
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- So if you remember, like,
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- What erica was even talking about this week, and we devoted
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- A whole episode of the show to it, and erica did a great job.
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- She said it's the dehumanizing language.
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- And she was reflecting on the white house
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- Correspondents dinner, the three assassination
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- Attempts on president trump,
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- And obviously the assassination of charlie,
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- And basically said, you know, dehumanizing people
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- Leads to a really ugly place, and we need to stop.
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- Enough is enough.
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- We're done putting up with this,
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- And something needs to be done.
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- And then,
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- You know, lo and behold, somebody that steps into this
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- Role is stanley kubrick's,
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- Kubrick's, estranged daughter who became a scientologist,
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- It looks like, in the 90s and is now
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- An avid supporter of people like candace
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- And other people that are into the conspiracy world.
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- Apparently, she was a qanon fan,
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- So i just i'll be nice about it.
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- I just want to say to say out loud
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- That you want to kill turning point usa.
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- Vivian, i want you to understand
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- That you are potentially stoking violent people
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- To do crazy things,
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- And that does not end in a good place.
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- And so i pray that you restrain yourselves in the future
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- And maybe get off the internet and go enjoy life,
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- Because it's not worthy of anybody's time
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- For you to be saying such vile things.
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- It's not a good look for you.
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- It's not good for us.
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- It's not good for the country.
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- It's not good for your family or your reputation.
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- So please stop doing it.
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- I don't know, blake, if you have any any thoughts
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- To. i just do it. but i wanted to address it.
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- Yeah, it's it's
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- Just another one of these things that pops up
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- And i want to do address.
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- I guess it's just these, like, children of directors.
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- It's they're they're.
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- Ethan, i know even more than children of actors
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- Or the actors themselves.
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- Childhood actors, child actors.
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- I know some child.
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- So some child actors are great, but, it's child actors.
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- Well, maybe that let me remind you,
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- I believe it was a
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- It was a former child actor who paid
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- For the defense of kyle rittenhouse, right?
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- That,
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- That that's that was a great that was a great heroic at some
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- End up in a really good spot.
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- I that's what i want for all of you.
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- I want
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- I want some children of directors
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- To pay for for daniel pennies defense in the future.
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- Until we have a deal to make with you,
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- If you are willing, we can bury the hatchet
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- And listen like my heart is one of peace.
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- I want love, i want harmony.
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- But don't come at us like that
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- And don't come at erica like that.
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- That's not cool.
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- That's mean. it's mean.
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- We don't need phrase that.
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- It's erica.
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- Erica is a tough woman. she can help.
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- She can handle people. but that's true.
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- People are going to be mean.
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- The left is very mean.
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- But, what she has been saying, i think is important
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- To emphasize.
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- She's talking about the dehumanizing rhetoric.
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- And what she's getting up,
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- I think, is
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- An important thing to say, which is we have freedom
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- Speech in the united states.
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- And as you know,
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- I'm basically an unhinged free speech absolutist.
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- I don't i don't hate speech is not a thing.
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- Not a thing.
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- In general, i don't speeches.
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- I'm those speeches by a lot of people, bill.
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- They're much more willing to embrace.
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- Oh, i think this statement is threatening or,
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- You know, should be indicted for this or that.
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- And i'm
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- Almost always of the attitude that unless you are
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- Actively whipping up a mob to go burn someone's
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- House down, go loot a business, go shoot someone,
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- It's probably better to say that it's fine.
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- Otherwise you're out.
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- You're going down the path towards
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- Europe where i'm not saying any of that
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- Just said, okay.
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- Yeah, there's been some lines on this end.
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- I think what erica is pointing out is when you have people
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- Recklessly fanning flames of hate,
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- That is the step towards where people decide, actually,
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- We're okay with, we're okay with dialing back
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- Freedom of speech,
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- Because the only reason we're going to have free speech
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- Stick around is if people wanted
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- To stick around and insist that it stick around right now,
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- We keep it because we have a good legacy
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- Of federal judges in the 20th century
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- Who really entrenched freedom of speech
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- As a value in america, such
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- That it's hard to restrict speech.
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- But the left wants to restrict speech.
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- The left are the ones who go around saying,
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- Well, there's hate speech exceptions, okay,
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- The public will go along with this if they're thinking
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- There's going to be violence. i just want to be very clear.
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- I'm not suggesting anybody's speech be restricted.
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- I'm just saying
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- I have my own free speech.
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- We're to we're going to debate in this in the next segment.
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- Do we think we think james comey did anything wrong?
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- Yeah.
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- Well, that's
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- That's an open question that we're going to have.
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- We're going to have mike davis
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- On in the next segment to discuss just that.
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- And by the way,
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- We also have gotten word that the doj is going to enforce
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- The supreme court ruling that has called race
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- Racial gerrymandering illegal, essentially.
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- And so those two topics we're going to get into
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- With mike davis, but yeah, just to be very, very clear,
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- I don't believe in the concept of hate speech.
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- I think there is gross speech.
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- There is vile speech.
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- There is unhinged speech.
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- There is, you know, all kinds of different categories.
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- But i don't even believe in that category of hate speech.
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- Not in america, at least.
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- And that is a beautiful
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- Heritage that we have, and we need to keep it strong
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- And instill it and make sure it's, defended and protected.
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- Absolutely.
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- But that's not what i'll not at all what i was talking about.
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- Anyways, we're going to bring on mike davis next.
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- We'll be right back.
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- Hang in right there. just a few minutes.
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- We'll talk with you in about four minutes
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- We'll talk with you in about four minutes
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- All right mike davis
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- It's been a minute since we've had you on the show my friend.
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- Welcome back to the charlie kirk show.
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- How you been i've been great.
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- Thanks for having me back. yes.
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- So we've got a couple things that are on the docket today,
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- One of which is this comey indictment.
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- The.
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- So so we'll put that one bucket and then the other is
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- This doj is now publicly said they're going to enforce
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- The scotus ruling on maps
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- And redistricting, both legal questions
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- With a lot of, i guess, unanswered, questions.
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- So let's start with comey.
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- Blake is not convinced.
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- What do you think?
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- Did he do something when he's when he posted that picture?
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- 8647?
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- Did he make a threat against the president's life?
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- Yes. and, you do not have a first amendment
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- Right to threaten the the president's life.
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- You do not have a first amendment
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- Right to threaten any federal officials lives.
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- The there's a criminal statutes that are on the books.
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- One is if you make
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- An assassination attempt against the president,
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- You're charged with that felony.
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- Or if you make it a not not an attempt.
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- Excuse me? a threat against the president.
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- You're charged with that felony.
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- The other is, if you transmit it online,
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- That's another felony.
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- That's exactly what happened with james comey.
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- James comey is not your average
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- Joe who does not, understand what he's doing.
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- He is a former fbi director.
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- He is a former deputy attorney general.
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- The number two in the justice department.
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- He's a former u.s. attorney.
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- He posted this 8647 seashell thread on instagram
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- After two assassination attempts
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- Against the president of the united states.
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- He did this within days of
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- Releasing his new novel about code.
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- It's threats by right wingers.
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- James comey knew exactly what he was doing.
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- This is after the election, mike, like i when i was it.
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- Yeah.
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- No, i think this is some of the context
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- That gets lost in this debate.
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- And listen, i'm i'm a little bit
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- I'm not sure
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- What's going to happen here if,
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- If this if this indictment is going to stick
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- And he's going to get convicted.
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- But i think that context is really important.
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- So as a former fbi director, he obviously is very aware
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- Of criminal elements and criminality in general.
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- Right.
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- Secondly, president trump at this point had just been,
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- Survived two assassination attempts.
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- Well, and he wrote a book about coded assassination attempts
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- At that part of this story, i think, gets lost.
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- You know, when you look at cnn or you look at mbs now
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- Or whatever, even fox, whatever,
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- But that those are relevant and pertinent details.
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- Go ahead.
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- First of all, i don't even 86 isn't
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- Even a this doesn't even mean kill somebody.
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- Well it can it will okay.
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- It can, but so can like get rid of okay.
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- So if you say
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- We should get rid of trump is that assassination threat?
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- I don't think so. no no no.
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- If you said get rid of trump. no.
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- Absolutely not.
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- I think the question here is when you when you talk about 86
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- Somebody it could be like the president
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- I think did a truth on this where it could be like
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- Mob speak violent speak for killing somebody.
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- But that is one of the alternative meanings.
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- But i do agree that the like the main thrust of that
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- Meaning 8647 is to eject somebody to get rid of.
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- Yeah, i've heard it associated with restaurants and bars
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- And stuff. yeah. it's 8086 that customary.
- 00:10:45.743 --> 00:10:48.312
- I don't think that usually means so legally.
- 00:10:48.312 --> 00:10:50.547
- Mike, how difficult is that going to be to prove in court.
- 00:10:50.547 --> 00:10:54.351
- Well, i mean that's a that's a defense that he could make.
- 00:10:54.351 --> 00:10:57.688
- He can say that that was not my intent.
- 00:10:57.688 --> 00:11:00.257
- He'd have to testify to do that.
- 00:11:00.257 --> 00:11:02.359
- That would be very smart for him to testify.
- 00:11:02.359 --> 00:11:05.028
- Look, i'd
- 00:11:05.028 --> 00:11:06.263
- At the end of the day, i have zero sympathy for james comey.
- 00:11:06.263 --> 00:11:09.099
- He's a he's a top law enforcement official.
- 00:11:09.099 --> 00:11:12.636
- He politicized and weaponized
- 00:11:12.636 --> 00:11:15.606
- The justice department to go after trump.
- 00:11:15.606 --> 00:11:18.242
- He he set up michael flynn and
- 00:11:18.242 --> 00:11:21.912
- And caused a great deal of hardship
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- For general michael flynn, president trump's incoming
- 00:11:24.982 --> 00:11:27.918
- National security advisor.
- 00:11:27.918 --> 00:11:29.419
- I just i have zero sympathy for him.
- 00:11:29.419 --> 00:11:32.956
- And, look, i'm not some principled conservative who,
- 00:11:32.956 --> 00:11:37.795
- Like, i'm not a high browed principle conservative.
- 00:11:37.795 --> 00:11:40.197
- I am a partizan street fighter.
- 00:11:40.197 --> 00:11:43.100
- And i love that james comey is getting a healthy dose
- 00:11:43.100 --> 00:11:46.670
- Of his own medicine.
- 00:11:46.670 --> 00:11:47.604
- Call it lawfare, call it whatever you want.
- 00:11:47.604 --> 00:11:50.507
- It. two wrongs don't make it right, but it makes it even.
- 00:11:50.507 --> 00:11:53.010
- So, am i sorry you remember this clip when he was,
- 00:11:53.010 --> 00:11:57.948
- He was sort of walking through how, he'd like to see
- 00:11:57.948 --> 00:12:01.084
- Trump in prison. sot 24.
- 00:12:01.084 --> 00:12:02.753
- Do you agree with that, that it would be difficult
- 00:12:02.753 --> 00:12:04.588
- Or nearly impossible for the law enforcement
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- Institutions to put him in an actual jail?
- 00:12:06.523 --> 00:12:09.092
- No, they
- 00:12:09.092 --> 00:12:10.060
- We just put him in a double wide somewhere out
- 00:12:10.060 --> 00:12:11.528
- Near the fence, out in the grass,
- 00:12:11.528 --> 00:12:13.463
- And he would eat there.
- 00:12:13.463 --> 00:12:14.698
- He'd shower there, he'd exercise there, he'd be away,
- 00:12:14.698 --> 00:12:17.734
- As donna perry said, from general population.
- 00:12:17.734 --> 00:12:20.437
- But it's obviously doable.
- 00:12:20.437 --> 00:12:22.406
- Remember that?
- 00:12:22.406 --> 00:12:23.273
- I guess i just feel skeptical here.
- 00:12:23.273 --> 00:12:24.908
- James comey, of course, doesn't like the president at all.
- 00:12:24.908 --> 00:12:27.878
- They've had a decade worth of bad blood at this point.
- 00:12:27.878 --> 00:12:31.014
- He was fired as head of the fbi.
- 00:12:31.014 --> 00:12:32.983
- He's written stuff critical of trump.
- 00:12:32.983 --> 00:12:34.418
- He's testified
- 00:12:34.418 --> 00:12:35.452
- In a hostile way to trump, and he made
- 00:12:35.452 --> 00:12:37.788
- Posts on social media that are clearly hostile towards trump.
- 00:12:37.788 --> 00:12:40.991
- But i just feel, do i it stretches credulity
- 00:12:40.991 --> 00:12:45.162
- For me, for anyone to who saw that post, to think
- 00:12:45.162 --> 00:12:48.332
- James comey is threatening to personally go
- 00:12:48.332 --> 00:12:51.802
- Or is inciting somebody to go and assassinate
- 00:12:51.802 --> 00:12:55.539
- The president, i, i feel very skeptical of that.
- 00:12:55.539 --> 00:12:58.609
- Yeah, i, i, i understand the skepticism.
- 00:12:58.609 --> 00:13:01.378
- Did you were you about to say something, mike?
- 00:13:01.378 --> 00:13:02.679
- Yeah, i would just say maybe, but i think that, the citizens
- 00:13:02.679 --> 00:13:06.717
- On the grand jury disagree, and they weren't skeptical.
- 00:13:06.717 --> 00:13:09.853
- They indicted, so they found probable cause.
- 00:13:09.853 --> 00:13:13.523
- I think there's more evidence that will come out
- 00:13:13.523 --> 00:13:15.292
- That we haven't seen yet, but they're going to do.
- 00:13:15.292 --> 00:13:16.960
- I think there's probable cause that james connor
- 00:13:16.960 --> 00:13:19.763
- Comey had these subjective intent.
- 00:13:19.763 --> 00:13:21.932
- He intended for his message to be to threaten
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- The life
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- Of the president of the united states,
- 00:13:26.403 --> 00:13:27.471
- And that's why they entitled him.
- 00:13:27.471 --> 00:13:28.972
- I look, i,
- 00:13:28.972 --> 00:13:30.107
- I agree that you have to be careful about going down
- 00:13:30.107 --> 00:13:32.743
- This road where you're going after people for their speech.
- 00:13:32.743 --> 00:13:36.480
- This is not protected speech.
- 00:13:36.480 --> 00:13:37.948
- Making a threat against the president
- 00:13:37.948 --> 00:13:40.117
- Is not protected speech.
- 00:13:40.117 --> 00:13:41.618
- It's a federal crime.
- 00:13:41.618 --> 00:13:42.653
- It's several federal crimes, says james comey.
- 00:13:42.653 --> 00:13:44.688
- Just learned, and it's dangerous.
- 00:13:44.688 --> 00:13:46.490
- What we just saw with this third assassination attempt,
- 00:13:46.490 --> 00:13:49.526
- That people take these messages and they act on them.
- 00:13:49.526 --> 00:13:53.230
- And that's exactly what james comey wanted.
- 00:13:53.230 --> 00:13:56.166
- Again, he wrote a book about this, about coded
- 00:13:56.166 --> 00:13:59.403
- Messages, just wild like leading to political violence.
- 00:13:59.403 --> 00:14:03.607
- Is wild.
- 00:14:03.607 --> 00:14:04.374
- All right.
- 00:14:04.374 --> 00:14:05.242
- I want to pivot really quick, mike.
- 00:14:05.242 --> 00:14:06.009
- The justice department says
- 00:14:06.009 --> 00:14:07.210
- It will
- 00:14:07.210 --> 00:14:08.145
- Enforce the scotus ruling in every state
- 00:14:08.145 --> 00:14:09.780
- With racially gerrymandered districts.
- 00:14:09.780 --> 00:14:12.149
- So we're talking south carolina.
- 00:14:12.149 --> 00:14:14.084
- I guess north carolina has already been done.
- 00:14:14.084 --> 00:14:16.053
- Florida, georgia.
- 00:14:16.053 --> 00:14:17.921
- Louisiana, mississippi, alabama, tennessee.
- 00:14:17.921 --> 00:14:21.525
- This could be a huge, huge shift.
- 00:14:21.525 --> 00:14:24.995
- Politically, i,
- 00:14:24.995 --> 00:14:26.563
- I think i'm not overstating the case
- 00:14:26.563 --> 00:14:28.398
- When i say that democrats appear to be freaking out.
- 00:14:28.398 --> 00:14:30.834
- Like there's actual panic amongst democrats.
- 00:14:30.834 --> 00:14:34.104
- And now aoc is out there
- 00:14:34.104 --> 00:14:35.305
- Vowing to retaliate in every blue state.
- 00:14:35.305 --> 00:14:37.641
- I mean, we saw this hypothetical map of illinois
- 00:14:37.641 --> 00:14:40.644
- Where it literally has, i think, what, 17 a.m..
- 00:14:40.644 --> 00:14:43.146
- I don't tell me the number 17.
- 00:14:43.146 --> 00:14:44.982
- And they're all spaghetti noodles that run up to chicago.
- 00:14:44.982 --> 00:14:48.719
- So this is what they're going to try and do to counter it.
- 00:14:48.719 --> 00:14:53.290
- What can they legally do to defend, this,
- 00:14:53.290 --> 00:14:57.728
- Meaning can we actually get these map changed quickly?
- 00:14:57.728 --> 00:15:00.564
- Do they have the legal right and umph to do it?
- 00:15:00.564 --> 00:15:02.799
- Give us your take.
- 00:15:02.799 --> 00:15:04.334
- Yeah.
- 00:15:04.334 --> 00:15:05.469
- The supreme court's ruling 6 to 3 made crystal clear.
- 00:15:05.469 --> 00:15:08.271
- You cannot have intentional racial discrimination
- 00:15:08.271 --> 00:15:13.443
- When you're creating these congressional districts.
- 00:15:13.443 --> 00:15:15.445
- You can't have dry districts like the democrats
- 00:15:15.445 --> 00:15:18.315
- Have done for so long.
- 00:15:18.782 --> 00:15:20.117
- You can you can gerrymander based upon politics,
- 00:15:20.117 --> 00:15:24.121
- But you cannot gerrymander based upon race.
- 00:15:24.121 --> 00:15:26.957
- And so
- 00:15:26.957 --> 00:15:28.225
- When you have these blue states that have intentionally drawn
- 00:15:28.225 --> 00:15:30.594
- Their lines based upon race districts, the justice
- 00:15:30.594 --> 00:15:34.598
- Department's going to sue them and get those maps thrown out.
- 00:15:34.598 --> 00:15:38.668
- And so, this is it.
- 00:15:38.668 --> 00:15:41.338
- Look, it's going to be an uphill fight
- 00:15:41.338 --> 00:15:43.073
- For republicans to keep the house. but
- 00:15:43.073 --> 00:15:46.710
- This could this could change the momentum significantly.
- 00:15:46.710 --> 00:15:53.009
- This could this could change the momentum significantly.
- 00:15:53.009 --> 00:15:58.986
- Mike,
- 00:15:59.219 --> 00:16:00.287
- We haven't talked about the legalities of this,
- 00:16:00.287 --> 00:16:02.823
- But one of the
- 00:16:02.823 --> 00:16:03.791
- Outstanding questions with the splc story
- 00:16:03.791 --> 00:16:06.160
- Is that it seems like the fbi and the doj,
- 00:16:06.160 --> 00:16:09.163
- They uncovered this $3 million plus scheme to pay informants
- 00:16:09.163 --> 00:16:13.700
- That were actually the leaders, the organizers
- 00:16:13.700 --> 00:16:15.602
- Of this white supremacy stuff,
- 00:16:15.602 --> 00:16:17.237
- The kkk, the aryan nations and stuff.
- 00:16:17.237 --> 00:16:19.239
- But they haven't charged individuals yet.
- 00:16:19.239 --> 00:16:22.176
- And i wrote an op ed in fox and i just said, listen,
- 00:16:22.176 --> 00:16:25.846
- If we got to get accountability like individuals
- 00:16:25.846 --> 00:16:28.382
- That greenlit this stuff, i don't care if it's the board
- 00:16:28.382 --> 00:16:30.651
- Or the executives, people have to be held
- 00:16:30.651 --> 00:16:32.886
- Personally accountable for defrauding their donors.
- 00:16:32.886 --> 00:16:36.490
- First of all,
- 00:16:36.490 --> 00:16:37.124
- I think that's the easiest
- 00:16:37.124 --> 00:16:38.459
- Claim you could make, but maybe there's other things
- 00:16:38.459 --> 00:16:40.661
- That they could go after for these executives for
- 00:16:40.661 --> 00:16:43.330
- What do you think should happen?
- 00:16:43.330 --> 00:16:45.065
- What's legally feasible here?
- 00:16:45.065 --> 00:16:47.234
- I agree, i remember what they did here,
- 00:16:47.234 --> 00:16:49.336
- That the southern poverty law center
- 00:16:49.336 --> 00:16:52.039
- Was telling its donors
- 00:16:52.039 --> 00:16:54.942
- That it was fighting the klan when it was secretly funding
- 00:16:54.942 --> 00:16:59.480
- The klan.
- 00:16:59.480 --> 00:17:00.481
- There's no way these little old liberal ladies,
- 00:17:00.481 --> 00:17:03.784
- Would be sending their checks to the splc
- 00:17:03.784 --> 00:17:08.255
- If they knew they were funding the ku klux klan
- 00:17:08.255 --> 00:17:11.158
- And the aryan nations.
- 00:17:11.625 --> 00:17:13.227
- And so you're exactly right, andrew.
- 00:17:13.227 --> 00:17:15.028
- There has to be
- 00:17:15.028 --> 00:17:16.196
- And i think there will be
- 00:17:16.196 --> 00:17:17.264
- A superseding indictment or an amended indictment
- 00:17:17.264 --> 00:17:21.034
- Where they name the executives
- 00:17:21.034 --> 00:17:22.970
- And they name other individuals who were involved.
- 00:17:22.970 --> 00:17:25.305
- This entity didn't commit the crime on its own.
- 00:17:25.305 --> 00:17:30.043
- It was done through the people who run the entity.
- 00:17:30.043 --> 00:17:32.379
- So then i'd say stay tuned on that.
- 00:17:32.379 --> 00:17:34.948
- I think individuals that have defrauded their donors here
- 00:17:34.948 --> 00:17:39.419
- And really just done a heinous thing,
- 00:17:39.419 --> 00:17:41.855
- You know, fueling the hate
- 00:17:41.855 --> 00:17:44.424
- So that they can fundraise off the hate.
- 00:17:44.424 --> 00:17:47.127
- And, you know, and then the ideological
- 00:17:47.127 --> 00:17:49.296
- Blurring of the lines between prager u.
- 00:17:49.296 --> 00:17:51.665
- And turning point in atf and and putting us on their hate
- 00:17:51.665 --> 00:17:55.836
- Map, putting a target on charlie's back,
- 00:17:55.836 --> 00:17:58.805
- You know, it's three months in, 19 days after the splc put
- 00:17:58.805 --> 00:18:02.309
- Turning point on the hate map that charlie was assassinated.
- 00:18:02.309 --> 00:18:04.578
- I hope that sinks in for everyone.
- 00:18:04.578 --> 00:18:06.013
- It was 22 months after they put the family research council
- 00:18:06.013 --> 00:18:09.583
- On the hate map that, their offices in dc got shot up.
- 00:18:09.583 --> 00:18:14.321
- I want to ask you a question.
- 00:18:14.955 --> 00:18:16.623
- Have you been following the maniacal brewing company story?
- 00:18:16.623 --> 00:18:19.560
- The, the the brewery owner in wisconsin
- 00:18:19.560 --> 00:18:24.031
- That, after the white house correspondents dinner
- 00:18:24.031 --> 00:18:26.733
- Posted that really obscene post about,
- 00:18:26.733 --> 00:18:29.836
- You know, it was almost free beer day, right?
- 00:18:29.836 --> 00:18:32.139
- So the idea being,
- 00:18:32.139 --> 00:18:33.173
- If trump gets assassinated, everybody gets free
- 00:18:33.173 --> 00:18:35.475
- Beer for the day at his brewing company.
- 00:18:35.475 --> 00:18:38.145
- So he's posted something here and it says, hi, folks.
- 00:18:38.145 --> 00:18:41.815
- Owner kirk here.
- 00:18:41.815 --> 00:18:42.783
- The secret service and fbi have contacted me.
- 00:18:42.783 --> 00:18:45.452
- I encourage supporters to come if you can, and make sure
- 00:18:45.452 --> 00:18:48.021
- They don't do anything to me.
- 00:18:48.021 --> 00:18:49.289
- If you don't hear from me,
- 00:18:49.289 --> 00:18:50.190
- Our socials tonight, something is wrong.
- 00:18:50.190 --> 00:18:52.492
- I am of sound mind and body.
- 00:18:52.492 --> 00:18:54.228
- I would disagree with that.
- 00:18:54.228 --> 00:18:55.762
- And he's also pretty overweight.
- 00:18:55.762 --> 00:18:57.497
- Too much beer and in no way thinking of harming myself.
- 00:18:57.497 --> 00:19:00.000
- If you don't hear back from me tonight, don't believe a thing
- 00:19:00.000 --> 00:19:02.135
- You hear from the federal government.
- 00:19:02.135 --> 00:19:03.437
- I think this is the front line.
- 00:19:03.437 --> 00:19:04.972
- I mean, blake and i are even in the breaks
- 00:19:04.972 --> 00:19:06.607
- Having a discussion about free free speech
- 00:19:06.607 --> 00:19:09.543
- And understanding
- 00:19:09.543 --> 00:19:10.744
- That in this country we have very established,
- 00:19:10.744 --> 00:19:13.680
- You know, precedents about what is incitement to violence.
- 00:19:13.680 --> 00:19:17.017
- Right.
- 00:19:17.017 --> 00:19:17.784
- So this guy was
- 00:19:17.784 --> 00:19:18.885
- Obviously gleefully enjoying the near assassination
- 00:19:18.885 --> 00:19:22.189
- Of our president.
- 00:19:22.189 --> 00:19:22.990
- Again, that's gross and disgusting.
- 00:19:22.990 --> 00:19:24.992
- And it must be condemned.
- 00:19:24.992 --> 00:19:26.293
- But at what point are we at risk of blurring those lines
- 00:19:26.293 --> 00:19:30.464
- And infringing upon his right to say
- 00:19:30.464 --> 00:19:33.300
- Gross and vile, disgusting things?
- 00:19:33.300 --> 00:19:36.236
- Yeah, i mean, people have the first.
- 00:19:36.236 --> 00:19:37.838
- Right? i agree with blake on this.
- 00:19:37.838 --> 00:19:39.206
- People have the right
- 00:19:39.206 --> 00:19:40.173
- To say gross and vile and disgusting things.
- 00:19:40.173 --> 00:19:42.909
- I see them every day on twitter is, as you guys all read.
- 00:19:42.909 --> 00:19:46.213
- By the way, follow mike davis on twitter.
- 00:19:46.213 --> 00:19:48.148
- It's a good follow. you will be entertained.
- 00:19:48.148 --> 00:19:51.184
- But the issue is you can't threaten the president,
- 00:19:51.184 --> 00:19:53.153
- The president's life. you can't.
- 00:19:53.153 --> 00:19:54.554
- But that's where you crossed. but did he?
- 00:19:54.554 --> 00:19:56.290
- But that's the question.
- 00:19:56.290 --> 00:19:57.491
- So he was celebrating.
- 00:19:57.491 --> 00:19:59.593
- He was going to reward his patrons with free beer
- 00:19:59.593 --> 00:20:02.929
- Should the president be assassinated.
- 00:20:02.929 --> 00:20:05.866
- But he i mean, listen, i find this to all be so gross
- 00:20:05.866 --> 00:20:09.469
- And dehumanize.
- 00:20:09.469 --> 00:20:10.504
- I think you have a i have a righteous indignation
- 00:20:10.504 --> 00:20:12.939
- And a righteous anger towards this person.
- 00:20:12.939 --> 00:20:14.708
- I think he's mentally unwell.
- 00:20:14.708 --> 00:20:16.076
- I think he's a total scumbag.
- 00:20:16.076 --> 00:20:18.645
- But what?
- 00:20:18.645 --> 00:20:20.147
- Where is the line like what?
- 00:20:20.147 --> 00:20:21.248
- What becomes incitement, right?
- 00:20:21.248 --> 00:20:23.250
- Like what becomes you know what?
- 00:20:23.250 --> 00:20:26.520
- What's the legal line here?
- 00:20:26.520 --> 00:20:29.856
- Yeah, i, i guess i haven't read this
- 00:20:29.856 --> 00:20:32.059
- Post that carefully, but under the supreme court's
- 00:20:32.059 --> 00:20:34.928
- Precedent from a couple years ago, it's called true threats,
- 00:20:34.928 --> 00:20:38.498
- Meaning when you make a threat, it has to be a true threat.
- 00:20:38.498 --> 00:20:42.202
- You have to look at their subjective intent.
- 00:20:42.202 --> 00:20:45.972
- Did they intend to harm
- 00:20:45.972 --> 00:20:48.542
- Someone with their threat, or is it political hyperbole?
- 00:20:48.542 --> 00:20:52.145
- And that's that's the line
- 00:20:52.145 --> 00:20:53.347
- That you look at, with james comey.
- 00:20:53.347 --> 00:20:56.616
- I guarantee you that grand jury heard evidence
- 00:20:56.616 --> 00:20:59.886
- That he that was his actual subjective intent, sure.
- 00:20:59.886 --> 00:21:02.923
- To, 86, 47 to assassinate president trump.
- 00:21:02.923 --> 00:21:07.594
- And so it's really case by case.
- 00:21:07.594 --> 00:21:09.863
- But i would just say this more broadly,
- 00:21:09.863 --> 00:21:11.732
- The here's the bigger problem is we have a democrat party
- 00:21:11.732 --> 00:21:15.502
- That promotes and celebrate
- 00:21:15.502 --> 00:21:18.638
- Political violence, including assassinations.
- 00:21:18.638 --> 00:21:22.008
- We saw this.
- 00:21:22.008 --> 00:21:23.076
- That's, and it's one sided.
- 00:21:23.076 --> 00:21:24.845
- It's coming from one side where republicans
- 00:21:24.845 --> 00:21:27.647
- Have a [---] of a lot more guns than democrats.
- 00:21:27.647 --> 00:21:30.450
- Where all of us own guns.
- 00:21:30.450 --> 00:21:32.018
- We know how to use guns.
- 00:21:32.018 --> 00:21:33.253
- We're not killing democrats.
- 00:21:33.253 --> 00:21:35.522
- It's one sided violence.
- 00:21:35.522 --> 00:21:36.990
- We saw this with now three assassination attempts
- 00:21:36.990 --> 00:21:41.461
- Against president trump, an assassination attempt
- 00:21:41.461 --> 00:21:43.864
- Against steve scalise, justice kavanaugh,
- 00:21:43.864 --> 00:21:47.033
- And charlie kirk, our dear friends.
- 00:21:47.801 --> 00:21:49.703
- I mean, it's we have an assassination
- 00:21:49.703 --> 00:21:51.638
- Culture boogeyman, and it's thompson.
- 00:21:51.638 --> 00:21:55.208
- Yeah. louis dimaggio named brian thompson.
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- Here's the actual post. i just want you to see it.
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- It says from an aqua brewing company.
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- Well, we almost got hashtag free beer day.
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- Either a brother
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- Or sister in the resistance
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- Needs to work on their marksmanship.
- 00:22:06.019 --> 00:22:08.288
- Or he faked another assassination
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- To get a positive news cycle.
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- We'll never know.
- 00:22:11.558 --> 00:22:12.793
- Regardless, we stand at the ready
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- To pour free beer the day it happens.
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- That seems to cross the line to me.
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- When you're when you're offering free beer.
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- If someone kills the president but that they.
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- The secret service needs to go put this guy in jail.
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- Blake.
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- Yeah, i know, i know, i feel you,
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- I feel you, i feel the tension.
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- It's it's it's genuinely tough.
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- Especially with the presidents to win on their mark
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- Because i think obviously would be justified
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- If you're literally offering
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- A bounty to commit an assassination.
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- That's an anti-semitic cry.
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- I think it's worth noting, on the other hand, is
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- I will pour out free beer to celebrate the death
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- Of someone i hate, while gross and ugly.
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- Does that really count?
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- I don't know, i'm i'm just we know the left very much
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- Loves to bring cases like this with a very sinister agenda.
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- And i think it is, i said, benefited.
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- I saw a great deal.
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- 15 let me show you this
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- Very fast, this debates exactly the problem on the right.
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- We're principled and nice and the others.
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- And so we're debating principally and nicely.
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- And the other side wants to blow off our heads.
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- So i didn't want to be principled.
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- I could go be a live mike davis article three project.
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- Good to see you, my friend. we'll see you. thank you.
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