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Charlie Kirk Today | Mike Howell: March 6, 2026 | Charlie Kirk Today | March 6, 2026
- First,
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- I want to get into a concept of two things.
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- Can be true at once.
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- We want this audience to be as educated as possible.
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- We want you to have sophisticated
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- Thoughts, nuanced thoughts.
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- Life is not black and white.
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- And the two things at once idea i want everyone
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- To keep in their mind is this image 587.
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- This is reporting from the economist's
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- Hat tip to kane from citizen free press for flagging this.
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- For me, the iran war has been a stunning
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- Aerial success.
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- This is the economist.
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- This is you know, this is not state media.
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- This is the economist.
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- And this is without doubt true.
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- But the subhead is also true,
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- Even if at the political level,
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- Its direction is a mess.
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- Now, listen,
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- I was an early critic, as was blake,
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- That this war had not been sold to the american
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- Public sufficiently. i believe that to be the case.
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- I will also give them credit.
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- In the days that have ensued since the initial strikes,
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- They've done a better job
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- Of explaining the why and the why. now.
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- But so two things can be true at once.
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- Our military is second to none.
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- When president trump lauds the military, when secretary
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- Of war pete headset explains just how lethal and precise
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- And incredible they are, all those things are true.
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- Our military men and women are the best in the world,
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- And our aerial assault
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- Has proven to be the best in the world.
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- And look at what we did it in venezuela.
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- Absolutely true.
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- But some of you have been upset with us
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- And our tech because we haven't been sufficiently,
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- I guess, enthusiastic.
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- But i want to bring your attention.
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- And, blake, actually, before i get there,
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- Why don't you explain,
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- Why don't you say what you were going to say?
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- Well, i'm
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- Just i think what we are seeing is there's kind of two wars.
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- There's the literal air war over iran,
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- And there's the airwaves war.
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- There's the war over public opinion.
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- Every war goes that way.
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- And it's a little different from conflicts you've had
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- In the past where if you, you know,
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- If you want to use an obvious example,
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- World war ii two world war two starts with 100%
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- Popular support for the war.
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- Because the japanese bombed pearl harbor.
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- Everyone is on board
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- And it would only go down from there
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- If there, you know, were a lot of setbacks.
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- Saw this and went on saw this after 911.
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- You saw this after 911.
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- Afghanistan 95% support for that war goes down from there.
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- Iraq, probably 65, 70% support for that war
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- When it began, goes down from there.
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- This is different where we seem to be starting with
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- At best 5050, maybe less support.
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- And the plan is that they can sell it through
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- How successful it is.
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- And by the way, i do want to say
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- This could end up proving and i said this yesterday,
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- To be the absolutely right geopolitical national security.
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- They have information we don't. yes.
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- And you would be a fool not to see the potential upside
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- Of controlling the strait of hormuz,
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- Of getting rid of a malignant actor in a terror,
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- The number one state sponsor of terrorism in the middle east.
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- There's a thousand upsides.
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- If trump can say
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- You're never going to be hearing about
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- Iran like you've been hearing for them
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- For the past 45 years ever again, yes,
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- That's a good thing.
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- But we have an obligation
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- To make this point because some people are saying,
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- People are saying actually the base is super
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- United behind this. like they're fine on that.
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- And we had students on the show yesterday
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- And we just we wanted to ask them.
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- We said, be honest with us.
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- What is the attitude like on campus
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- About what has just happened?
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- And they answered us and we told them not not to be
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- Completely honest with us. and they were.
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- And there's two clips here
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- That i want to make sure we highlight.
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- And like you can call the first one if.
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- Yeah.
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- And this was i believe this was asking
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- The chapter leader at appalachian state.
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- So this is not an ivy league school. this is not berkeley.
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- This is a school in, you know, rural north carolina. yep.
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- A lot of trump voters.
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- 592 so i want to start off by asking you guys
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- To give us the vibe
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- On campus of this this, the strikes against iran.
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- What's the vibe? what are people saying?
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- Let's go ahead and be honest with us.
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- Be honest and tell us we want to know.
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- We want the unvarnished truth. brooke, you first.
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- Yeah.
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- I think, my campus, especially, people are very
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- Upset with the united states and their involvement.
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- I think that a lot of direction is pointed at israel and,
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- Questioning our allies and the motives, in that way.
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- And meghan.
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- Oh, yeah, i definitely agree.
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- That's the same vibe that we're having on campus.
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- And i think more people,
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- Don't want to see another war.
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- That was we thought maybe that was just a broad segment,
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- But then we asked a follow up question, 593
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- So are you seeing protest or are you seeing are people
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- Gathering in the in the square in the quad?
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- What kind of activities are you seeing this manifest in?
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- I'm mostly seeing things, through
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- Online platforms, people on,
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- Instagram or twitter just,
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- You know, really going in, president trump and
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- And being upset that, you know, gas prices might go up
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- And, forever war like people really, really
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- Do not want boots on the ground in this, circumstance.
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- Are you seeing that even from people that, you know,
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- Voted for trump in 2024, or is it more
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- Is it still mostly from
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- People you know would be left wing regardless or
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- I think the idea of starting a new foreign war
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- Is really even for trump voters, really,
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- Deterring people from wanting to align
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- With the administration and their actions.
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- That should be a flashing red light to everybody
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- That supports president trump, which we completely support.
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- President trump.
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- I mean, candidly,
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- Where i'm at, democrats are completely unacceptable
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- In any way, shape or form.
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- Like the entire reason this matters is
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- You do not want to alienate the voters who are who did
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- Vote this last year or two years ago
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- To get the illegals out, to secure the border,
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- To put america first.
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- And all of those things matter more than ever.
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- The left has gone more insane than ever on issue after issue
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- And my mark my words, they are going to try
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- And impeach this president.
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- If they get the house, they will impeach him.
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- And that's where we're going for
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- In the second half of this hour.
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- And you can be upset with me for telling you the truth, but
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- I know this to be a fact.
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- Put it that way, that they are going to use different,
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- Let's call them, controversies within this administration,
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- And they are telegraphing their moves here.
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- They understand that going after trump
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- Was politically a disaster for them,
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- And that's probably one of the reasons
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- Why we have president trump in the first place.
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- They're going to go for some of the lieutenants.
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- And if they can keep
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- The popularity of this war down,
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- If even our own conservative students are alienated,
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- Then they're
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- They've got a great chance of taking back the house.
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- And we need to fight that.
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- I'm not a dumber i don't think this is set in stone.
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- You talk about this now
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- So that it doesn't become a reality later.
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- And we are completely supportive of our military.
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- When the mission was when they pressed go,
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- When the green light was hit, we're all in for success.
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- And we were praying for success.
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- But we have to be honest
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- About the political ramifications as well.
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- And we have an obligation to tell you about that.
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- And we will.
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- And we will.
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- Again i don't
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- Want you guys to get mad at what we're telling you.
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- It's just true that this is a politically fraught war.
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- Our military is second to none.
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- They're doing an incredible job.
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- They've been planning these operations for a while.
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- This could be the national security best call,
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- But we have to be honest
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- About the fact that, as blake said, there's an air war,
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- There's an aerial assault,
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- And there's an airwaves war, there's a pr battle.
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- And we have to be honest
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- That this is going to be an uphill battle.
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- Our kids on chapters warned us about this.
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- But then there's this from politico.
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- U.s. central command,
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- Meanwhile, is asking the pentagon
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- To send more military intelligence officers
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- To its headquarters in tampa, florida, to support operations
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- Against iran for at least 100 days.
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- Excuse me, but likely through september,
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- According to a notification obtained by politico.
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- Now that obviously we don't trust the media
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- Automatically, but if they say a notification,
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- My guess is they have some source who showed them
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- Basically the request being made and for how long it was.
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- So if this report is true again, let's go back.
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- We were told 4 to 5 weeks we could move that up.
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- We could move that back.
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- I'm not a fan of putting timelines on military actions
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- Because war is unpredictable. war is hell.
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- We don't know what's going to happen.
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- So there's my starting point.
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- I think once you go, you better win.
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- You can't put that genie back in the bottle.
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- So i'm all for achieving my objectives
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- And strategic objectives in the region.
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- Once you press go hear me out.
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- But when there is a political calculation
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- That you're also making in a midterm year,
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- Then when the timeline starts
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- Getting dragged out to 100 days to september,
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- There is going to be a political fallout.
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- Our country is sick of being at war.
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- The independence, normies, young people,
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- These are contingencies that are sick of being at war,
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- And we need to consider them and keep them in mind.
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- So that's a big, big thing.
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- This is our flashing red light to say, don't
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- Forget gen z, don't forget independents.
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- Don't forget the people that built the coalition
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- That was big enough
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- To win a popular vote in seven swing states.
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- We have to consider this
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- Because if we lose in the midterms,
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- If not saying we will, i'm not a dumber.
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- We're going to work our butts
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- Off to make sure that doesn't happen.
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- But if you better believe it, they are going
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- To impeach president trump.
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- And we don't know how many
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- Fighters we're going to have in the senate.
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- Impeach president trump.
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- If it goes bad enough, you lose the senate.
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- And that's much worse then okay.
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- Yeah, they're doing their endless
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- Investigations from the house. that's bad.
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- But if they take the senate,
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- Very likely that the democrats will say,
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- We are just going to
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- Categorically not confirm any appointees
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- By the trump administration and house, no more judges,
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- No more cabinet secretaries, no more undersecretaries.
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- Anyone who leaves, it's just an empty slot.
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- No more, no more u.s.
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- Attorneys up.
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- You can't investigate fraud in minnesota
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- Or washington or anywhere else.
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- Those are the stakes.
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- And so we have to say,
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- If this has political consequences,
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- If this is going to be if they need to make a
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- Do a good job of selling it, they need to know that.
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- Yeah.
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- And unfortunately, this whole hour
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- Is going to be a bit of tough medicine. i mean, it really is.
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- And we're going to get into the next segment.
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- Some of the controversy
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- Brewing at dhs, if you're not aware of it,
- 00:11:24.772 --> 00:11:27.574
- We're going to fill you in because it's important. why?
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- Because these are arrows in the quiver of the democrat party.
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- So play this out.
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- If not, win.
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- If it's a big if they control the house after the midterms,
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- Which historically is the norm, okay.
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- If they control the house after the midterms,
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- If they make some ground in the senate,
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- We don't know how susan collins is going to vote.
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- We don't know how curtis in utah is going to vote.
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- Mcconnell. we don't we don't know any of that stuff.
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- All right.
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- Mobile connell will be out.
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- We don't know how lisa murkowski is going to vote
- 00:12:01.642 --> 00:12:04.678
- Rand paul even there's a lot of question marks in the senate.
- 00:12:04.678 --> 00:12:07.714
- So don't don't rest on the senate either.
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- And we just found out that, montana,
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- I'm just, not, daines.
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- Yes. daines is announces retirement.
- 00:12:17.324 --> 00:12:20.060
- That came at the last minute in montana.
- 00:12:20.060 --> 00:12:22.796
- Meanwhile, she he is getting into fights and the.
- 00:12:22.796 --> 00:12:25.299
- Yeah. the capitol broke some dude's hand.
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- Some protesters hand.
- 00:12:27.668 --> 00:12:28.602
- I mean, i don't think he meant to.
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- It's obvious from the tape, but it was
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- It was quite the video.
- 00:12:31.405 --> 00:12:33.307
- So we're setting up a chess board here where
- 00:12:33.307 --> 00:12:37.544
- Everything that we've worked for could be wiped away.
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- And we can't let that happen.
- 00:12:41.415 --> 00:12:42.816
- We need to go in clear eyed and understand
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- The ramifications of the decisions that have been made.
- 00:12:45.452 --> 00:12:48.488
- And i'm telling you, that segment with
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- Our young people yesterday, turning point students
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- At appalachian state,
- 00:12:54.761 --> 00:12:56.396
- Of all places, rutgers didn't surprise me as much.
- 00:12:56.396 --> 00:12:59.433
- But now it is.
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- It is a blue ish
- 00:13:00.567 --> 00:13:01.835
- College town, but nevertheless, it's still not an ivy league.
- 00:13:01.835 --> 00:13:04.271
- But look where they're sourcing there's.
- 00:13:04.271 --> 00:13:05.672
- The county was overall about 5050.
- 00:13:05.672 --> 00:13:07.741
- I just checked. yeah.
- 00:13:07.741 --> 00:13:08.976
- And but the they're sourcing their students at appalachian
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- State much different you know feeder system.
- 00:13:11.712 --> 00:13:15.616
- And as we said we asked
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- People, you know, who voted for trump last year
- 00:13:17.351 --> 00:13:19.319
- How are they feeling.
- 00:13:19.319 --> 00:13:20.120
- And they said pretty similar vibe.
- 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:21.722
- And i'm telling you, charlie knew the same.
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- This is why he was raising the flag
- 00:13:24.424 --> 00:13:27.094
- Warning ahead of operation midnight hammer,
- 00:13:27.094 --> 00:13:30.430
- Because he understood that this was wildly unpopular.
- 00:13:30.430 --> 00:13:33.400
- We sold president trump to young people
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- As the piece president.
- 00:13:36.103 --> 00:13:38.906
- Now the truth is,
- 00:13:39.339 --> 00:13:41.375
- Again underscoring our military second to none.
- 00:13:41.375 --> 00:13:44.077
- We support our warriors. we want success.
- 00:13:44.077 --> 00:13:46.079
- We want this to be the last
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- Conflict in the middle east ever.
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- We want to take iran as a malignant force
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- In the region off the map.
- 00:13:51.685 --> 00:13:53.186
- And this could be very well, could be the right geopolitical
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- Move, the right national security.
- 00:13:56.490 --> 00:13:58.058
- I want to
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- I want to answer a specific email here that we got.
- 00:13:59.159 --> 00:14:00.727
- Liz says, why would you have college
- 00:14:00.727 --> 00:14:02.796
- Students two opinions that could not be more
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- Accurate on your show to spew propaganda.
- 00:14:04.698 --> 00:14:07.668
- Charlie spoke to college students all the time there.
- 00:14:07.668 --> 00:14:09.636
- Voters on campus all the time.
- 00:14:09.636 --> 00:14:11.338
- He had panels with them all the time.
- 00:14:11.338 --> 00:14:13.173
- He cared about their opinions and he wanted to know
- 00:14:13.173 --> 00:14:16.009
- What they were both,
- 00:14:16.009 --> 00:14:17.244
- Because that's the only way you can convince them, but also
- 00:14:17.244 --> 00:14:19.780
- Because they are the future and they're voters.
- 00:14:19.780 --> 00:14:23.016
- They're voters and they're 18 and over.
- 00:14:23.016 --> 00:14:25.385
- All of them.
- 00:14:25.385 --> 00:14:26.553
- Charlie would absolutely listen to what they had to say,
- 00:14:26.553 --> 00:14:28.455
- And he would not dismiss them if it was not what he wants.
- 00:14:28.455 --> 00:14:30.891
- Here's the other thing i want people to keep in mind.
- 00:14:30.891 --> 00:14:32.592
- It's a leading indicator when you see all the chatter
- 00:14:32.592 --> 00:14:35.429
- Online and the movement of opinion.
- 00:14:35.429 --> 00:14:38.565
- A lot of that starts on tiktok and instagram
- 00:14:38.565 --> 00:14:41.668
- And memes doesn't stay there.
- 00:14:41.668 --> 00:14:44.404
- What happens on college
- 00:14:44.404 --> 00:14:45.605
- Campus doesn't stay on college campus. we'll be right back.
- 00:14:45.605 --> 00:14:50.004
- Campus doesn't stay on college campus. we'll be right back.
- 00:14:50.004 --> 00:14:56.349
- All right.
- 00:14:56.649 --> 00:14:57.616
- Welcome to the show. right now is mike howell.
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- He's the president of the oversight project.
- 00:14:59.118 --> 00:15:01.053
- Welcome to the show, mike.
- 00:15:01.053 --> 00:15:02.855
- Great to have you for having me on.
- 00:15:02.855 --> 00:15:04.623
- Absolutely. all right.
- 00:15:04.623 --> 00:15:05.925
- We should set this up. set it up.
- 00:15:05.925 --> 00:15:08.060
- Christina is head of dhs,
- 00:15:08.060 --> 00:15:10.563
- And she went to congress this past week
- 00:15:10.563 --> 00:15:12.932
- For two days of hearings before the senate
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- And the house on a whole raft of things.
- 00:15:15.601 --> 00:15:19.672
- And we'll be blunt.
- 00:15:19.672 --> 00:15:21.040
- What stands out about it is she got tough questions,
- 00:15:21.040 --> 00:15:23.476
- Obviously, from democrats, but also from some republicans
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- And republicans that we like and we respect.
- 00:15:27.780 --> 00:15:31.017
- Mike, why don't you set the table?
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- I've got a couple clips,
- 00:15:32.485 --> 00:15:33.352
- I've got one from senator kennedy,
- 00:15:33.352 --> 00:15:34.653
- And we have some headlines when i get to.
- 00:15:34.653 --> 00:15:36.055
- But the floor is yours.
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- Yeah.
- 00:15:38.524 --> 00:15:39.492
- So no doubt it's been a rough couple months
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- At the department of homeland security.
- 00:15:41.127 --> 00:15:42.795
- I mean, the most obvious thing is
- 00:15:42.795 --> 00:15:44.497
- The deportation numbers are just way too low.
- 00:15:44.497 --> 00:15:47.099
- Its president trump's central campaign
- 00:15:47.099 --> 00:15:48.934
- Promise to conduct mass deportations.
- 00:15:48.934 --> 00:15:51.203
- They're only had a couple hundred thousand.
- 00:15:51.203 --> 00:15:53.005
- And so that's number one.
- 00:15:53.005 --> 00:15:54.640
- But what the secretary
- 00:15:54.640 --> 00:15:56.108
- Took heat for is really, on from multiple angles
- 00:15:56.108 --> 00:15:59.712
- Is, you know, ethics issues.
- 00:15:59.712 --> 00:16:01.647
- And it came from republicans and democrats and primarily
- 00:16:01.647 --> 00:16:04.450
- Related to the contracting, process.
- 00:16:04.450 --> 00:16:07.186
- And in doing so, the thing that jumps out at me
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- The most as an oversight guy, i run the oversight project
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- Is the implication
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- Of the president of the united states,
- 00:16:14.193 --> 00:16:15.861
- President trump, in that
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- Because she was taking on
- 00:16:17.196 --> 00:16:18.197
- Heated questions about a $200 million ad buy
- 00:16:18.197 --> 00:16:20.966
- On fox news telling illegal aliens to self-deport.
- 00:16:20.966 --> 00:16:23.969
- Pause for a second. not a lot of illegal aliens.
- 00:16:23.969 --> 00:16:26.305
- Watch fox news,
- 00:16:26.305 --> 00:16:27.673
- Where that advertisement was primarily played,
- 00:16:27.673 --> 00:16:30.009
- And she said the president told her to do it.
- 00:16:30.009 --> 00:16:31.844
- And so if i'm a white house lawyer,
- 00:16:31.844 --> 00:16:34.113
- Knowing that the president is most likely
- 00:16:34.113 --> 00:16:36.649
- Going to be impeached if democrats win the house,
- 00:16:36.649 --> 00:16:39.518
- I have a lot of concern about the fact that,
- 00:16:39.518 --> 00:16:41.087
- You know, one of my cabinet secretaries
- 00:16:41.087 --> 00:16:42.688
- Just implicated the president in a vector of that.
- 00:16:42.688 --> 00:16:45.291
- That's one of the angles. there's a lot more.
- 00:16:45.291 --> 00:16:46.892
- But it was a really rough couple of days.
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- And we have that clip.
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- This is senator kennedy from louisiana.
- 00:16:50.229 --> 00:16:52.698
- So again, senator, we like,
- 00:16:52.698 --> 00:16:55.634
- Asking her about, yes, this $220 million ad buy.
- 00:16:55.634 --> 00:16:58.637
- Let's do 586.
- 00:16:58.637 --> 00:17:01.073
- How do you square that
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- Concern for waste, which i share?
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- With the fact that you have,
- 00:17:09.381 --> 00:17:12.284
- Spent $220 million
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- Running television advertisements
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- That feature you prominently.
- 00:17:21.060 --> 00:17:24.530
- Sir, the president tasked me with getting
- 00:17:24.530 --> 00:17:26.799
- The message out to the country and to other countries
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- Where we were seeing the invasion
- 00:17:29.735 --> 00:17:30.970
- Come from with with putting commercials out
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- That told them that if they were in this country
- 00:17:33.906 --> 00:17:36.041
- Illegally, that they needed to leave,
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- Or we would detain them and remove them and they
- 00:17:38.244 --> 00:17:40.179
- They'd not get the chance
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- To come back to america the right way.
- 00:17:41.180 --> 00:17:43.649
- That that has been extremely effective.
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- Thank you.
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- To run these advertisements.
- 00:17:47.553 --> 00:17:49.488
- Is that right? we had that conversation. yes.
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- Continues on here.
- 00:17:51.891 --> 00:17:52.791
- Mike, there's a second part of this
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- That's important because you could see kennedy
- 00:17:54.393 --> 00:17:56.328
- Kind of zeroing in here.
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- 597 you're testifying that president trump
- 00:17:58.230 --> 00:18:01.634
- Approved this ahead of time.
- 00:18:02.234 --> 00:18:03.969
- So i'm understanding,
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- We had conversations about making sure
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- That we were telling people, no, ma'am, i'm asking you.
- 00:18:08.307 --> 00:18:11.477
- Sorry to interrupt,
- 00:18:11.477 --> 00:18:12.878
- But the president approved ahead of time.
- 00:18:12.878 --> 00:18:15.548
- You're spending $220 million running tv
- 00:18:15.548 --> 00:18:20.786
- Ads across the country in which you are featured prominently.
- 00:18:20.786 --> 00:18:24.323
- Yes, sir.
- 00:18:24.323 --> 00:18:25.191
- We went through the legal processes.
- 00:18:25.191 --> 00:18:26.692
- Did it correct, president bush? yes.
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- He did, yes. okay.
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- And one thing, senator, i think would be helpful
- 00:18:33.632 --> 00:18:35.935
- To know is how effective that communications has been.
- 00:18:35.935 --> 00:18:38.837
- This has sparked massive, massive amounts of rumors.
- 00:18:38.837 --> 00:18:42.808
- And let's just throw out some of these.
- 00:18:42.808 --> 00:18:46.278
- This is,
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- I guess 590 trump moles.
- 00:18:49.281 --> 00:18:51.350
- Gnome firing.
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- This is from punchbowl news.
- 00:18:53.052 --> 00:18:54.486
- This was the first to get it after this.
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- Interaction.
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- 588 this is from daily beast.
- 00:18:59.425 --> 00:19:01.560
- Not somebody we typically, reference here on the show,
- 00:19:01.560 --> 00:19:05.064
- But nevertheless, now rumors are swirling.
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- Mike, what?
- 00:19:07.800 --> 00:19:09.735
- Put it this way.
- 00:19:09.735 --> 00:19:11.103
- You set up the stakes.
- 00:19:11.103 --> 00:19:12.438
- Well, if democrats get control of the house, he's
- 00:19:12.438 --> 00:19:16.308
- Going to be impeached.
- 00:19:16.308 --> 00:19:17.376
- They would love something like this to be true.
- 00:19:17.376 --> 00:19:19.545
- Where the dhs secretary is featured
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- Prominently is what secretary or, senator kennedy said
- 00:19:22.281 --> 00:19:27.253
- They would love for this
- 00:19:27.786 --> 00:19:28.954
- To be an ethics violation or some sort of corruption,
- 00:19:28.954 --> 00:19:32.291
- But it goes deeper than this, does it not?
- 00:19:32.291 --> 00:19:35.394
- There are reporting about airplanes.
- 00:19:35.394 --> 00:19:37.796
- There's reporting about, budgets
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- With former spokespeople.
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- Lay out kind of what she's dealing with here.
- 00:19:43.202 --> 00:19:46.505
- Yeah, she's taking it on from a lot of different
- 00:19:47.473 --> 00:19:49.808
- Angles, primarily revolves around the movement of money
- 00:19:49.808 --> 00:19:52.945
- And the ethical, you know, perceptions and issues.
- 00:19:52.945 --> 00:19:55.948
- And a lot of them came, you know, a full display
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- Of hearing from republicans, democrats.
- 00:19:57.883 --> 00:19:59.451
- So let's recall reconciliation.
- 00:19:59.451 --> 00:20:01.520
- One big beautiful bill, $40 billion to go to ice to hire
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- More agents, get detention facilities.
- 00:20:04.990 --> 00:20:07.126
- That money really hasn't been spent yet.
- 00:20:07.126 --> 00:20:08.994
- It's not getting out on the field,
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- Working, seeing,
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- Big detention facilities and manpower increases stood up
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- And said the money first was spent
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- On these kind of marketing and communications,
- 00:20:17.303 --> 00:20:20.372
- You know, ploys which i call, you know, mass communications
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- Instead of mass deportations.
- 00:20:23.509 --> 00:20:25.244
- Now, you add to that, you know, failure
- 00:20:25.244 --> 00:20:27.212
- On the operational side,
- 00:20:27.212 --> 00:20:28.681
- The ethical scandal that is brewing and it opens up
- 00:20:28.681 --> 00:20:31.917
- It better for democrats and even a lot of republicans
- 00:20:31.917 --> 00:20:35.554
- To attack the president's,
- 00:20:35.554 --> 00:20:37.723
- Central mandate of his administration,
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- Which is that secure the border and mass deportations.
- 00:20:39.825 --> 00:20:42.828
- And then, to make matters worse,
- 00:20:42.828 --> 00:20:44.229
- You can imagine when these impeachment
- 00:20:44.229 --> 00:20:46.165
- Inquiries into the secretary open, it's
- 00:20:46.165 --> 00:20:48.867
- Going to go right to the president's desk.
- 00:20:48.867 --> 00:20:50.636
- And, you know, senator kennedy is a really smart lawyer.
- 00:20:50.636 --> 00:20:53.172
- He understood the importance and the liability
- 00:20:53.172 --> 00:20:56.942
- Of what the secretary laid out there
- 00:20:56.942 --> 00:20:58.877
- When she implicated the president.
- 00:20:58.877 --> 00:21:00.145
- And i think he was trying
- 00:21:00.145 --> 00:21:01.413
- To do the white house a solid by making them see, you know,
- 00:21:01.413 --> 00:21:04.216
- Very clearly where this trail would inevitably lead.
- 00:21:04.216 --> 00:21:07.753
- I have some breaking news here.
- 00:21:07.753 --> 00:21:09.321
- I want the team to get this up.
- 00:21:09.321 --> 00:21:11.990
- It's very on
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- Point with our conversation.
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- This is, white house correspondent from reuters.
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- Nandita bose or bose?
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- I'm not sure how you pronounce it.
- 00:21:20.999 --> 00:21:22.668
- If you guys could get that, president trump told reuters
- 00:21:22.668 --> 00:21:26.505
- He did not sign off on a $200 million ad buy featuring
- 00:21:26.505 --> 00:21:30.209
- Dhs secretary kristi noem and had nothing to do with it.
- 00:21:30.209 --> 00:21:34.279
- That is a massive signal right there.
- 00:21:34.279 --> 00:21:37.149
- We talk about signal and noise when president trump.
- 00:21:37.149 --> 00:21:40.185
- I mean, that means that president trump
- 00:21:40.185 --> 00:21:41.787
- Is aware of the machinations in the scheming against him and
- 00:21:41.787 --> 00:21:46.658
- Is concerned enough about this to set the record straight.
- 00:21:46.658 --> 00:21:49.928
- Mike, how do you interpret this?
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- Yeah, i think you're right.
- 00:21:52.664 --> 00:21:54.133
- It's a massive signal.
- 00:21:54.133 --> 00:21:55.234
- It's president trump saying he's had enough of this.
- 00:21:55.234 --> 00:21:57.136
- And look, obviously he did not sign off on $200 million
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- Ad buy
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- To play on fox news to tell illegals
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- To self-deport,
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- Which, by the way, only
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- You know, less than a hundred thousand ended up
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- Using the application cbp one time.
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- Yeah, but to do that you just hasn't released numbers.
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- But this is the president, his lawyer, saying
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- We're not going to get dragged down into this. and
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- Just because she brought up his name.
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- They had the money to recruit ice agents.
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- They got the recruits they needed
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- And they just kept spending it,
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- Which might have the implication
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- That someone really wanted, you know,
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- They could have returned that money.
- 00:22:28.667 --> 00:22:29.601
- Use that for something else.
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- Right? yeah.
- 00:22:31.904 --> 00:22:32.871
- The overall thrust of this is these ads read
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- As self-promotion and political advertising
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- As opposed to mission focused. thanks.
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- Certainly this is troubling because we have an electorate,
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- A base, a coalition
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- That wants to focus on local domestic issues.
- 00:22:43.916 --> 00:22:47.486
- Meanwhile, we've got a war in iran, strikes
- 00:22:47.486 --> 00:22:49.955
- Ongoing, the timeline keeps stretching out.
- 00:22:49.955 --> 00:22:52.658
- It's going to be a it's going to be a grueling campaign,
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- Even if it is the right geopolitical move to make.
- 00:22:56.462 --> 00:22:59.731
- Meanwhile, the domestic number one issue,
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- The issue that basically unites the entire base,
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- The entire coalition is deportation, sealing
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- The border, getting tough on immigration.
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- And it seems to be just a complete mess.
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- And that is a formula for disaster.
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- Mike, thank you so much.
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- The oversight project, this has been excellent.
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- We're going to have you on again soon as this develops.
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- Thank you. russia.
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