Molly and Sean, uncover a shocking scandal involving a Democrat running for attorney general in Virginia, they realize the depth of political violence and lawlessness plaguing the nation. As they navigate the treacherous waters of DC politics, they must confront the harsh reality that some are willing to go to any length to seize power. With their dedication to truth and justice tested, they must decide how to fight back against a rising tide of corruption and violence threatening the very fabric of American democracy.
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Charlie Kirk Today | Mollie Hemingway & Sean Davis: October 7, 2025 | Charlie Kirk Today | October 7, 2025
- Brought to you in part by the
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- International fellowship of christians and jews.
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- Today, i'm
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- Very excited and honored to have two great americans,
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- Great patriots, truly important thinkers.
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- And they've done, a lot of work for this country.
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- The federalist, which we'll talk about.
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- And that is, of course, molly hemingway, the editor
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- In chief of the federalist, and sean davis,
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- Who is the founder and ceo.
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- So welcome to the show.
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- We're honored to have you.
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- It's wonderful to be here. honor to be here.
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- Thank you.
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- Thank you so much.
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- I think that's where we should start.
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- Is that you guys honored us.
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- You honored charlie.
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- You made the trek out here to be with us
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- On set, and, i know it.
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- It was no small task because you came out for the memorial.
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- You came out again for this.
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- And i think that speaks volumes about who you guys are
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- And what you believe and what you care about.
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- So, i mean, i guess the floor is yours.
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- Tell us,
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- You know, from your perspective what this last almost month,
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- I can't believe it's we're getting close to that,
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- About four days shy of a month.
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- What it's meant to you.
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- What it's meant to the country,
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- What you're seeing, thinking, feeling.
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- Well, i'll be honest the first week,
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- Two weeks in particular, were just incredibly difficult.
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- We have been writing about what's
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- Happening in the country.
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- We've been writing about left wing violence, intolerance,
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- How they're positioning themselves into killing people
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- Who they disagree with.
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- It's entirely another thing to have it happen
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- To someone that you know and love, and to realize
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- That we are
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- In, in such a bad situation now, having said that,
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- It's also been really inspiring to see
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- How many people take this seriously, how, how concerned
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- They are about the country, how much they're inspired
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- By what charlie did in taking these debates
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- To people and winning these debates
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- And caring about the country.
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- So it's, it's just still a tangle of emotions for me.
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- Yeah.
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- I've been kind of a raw mess for a couple of weeks now.
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- I've had a little time to kind of think through
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- Like the societal implications, the political implications.
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- And it was interesting.
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- You know, he was killed on september 10th.
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- So we were just getting ready to,
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- Commemorate the 24th anniversary of 9/11.
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- And you look at all the things that happened after that.
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- We kind of ushered in the era of the techno
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- Surveillance state.
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- We had a whole bunch of wars.
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- We fought to little effect.
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- And it dawned on me in the last week,
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- That we went from living in a post 9/11 society,
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- Which is what it's been like for the last 25 years.
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- And i think
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- Now we're absolutely in a post charlie kirk period.
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- We are now in the age of american martyrdom.
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- Charlie was the first true american christian martyr.
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- Everything he believed politically
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- Was based on his faith.
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- The debate that he was having at the moment
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- He was killed, was something that's foundational.
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- Who made you, how were you made?
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- Can men become women?
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- No, of course they can't.
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- And so the fact that he was killed
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- The way he was while doing what he he was doing,
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- He is the first american christian martyr.
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- And i remember talking to a pastor friend years ago.
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- This might have been 10 or 15 years ago.
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- And,
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- We were talking about how the country was changing,
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- How faith was coming under fire.
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- And he said, i worry that we're now in an age where
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- Instead of having to teach our children
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- How to live for christ, we're going to
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- Have to teach them how to die for christ.
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- And charlie really is the first true big,
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- Major example of that.
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- And i think we're going to be wrestling
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- With the implications
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- And the consequences of that for decades.
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- Charlie always had
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- A tremendous amount of respect for what you guys do
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- At the federalist.
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- And, you know, your tv and your media appearances and,
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- Yeah, i mean, i just want to say, echo
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- What you were saying, that,
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- You know, charlie is a martyr and a christian martyr,
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- And everything after the fact became so clear to me where.
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- And i said this in my speech at the memorial,
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- Like he was a modern prophet.
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- He was calling us to repent.
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- He was calling our nation to repent,
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- And we call them campus tours.
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- But they were really tent revivals, complete with a tent.
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- And the people flocked to hear him preach.
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- So i'm not sure if everybody realizes this,
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- Because they might know him from the early days
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- Where they were watching these clips of him
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- Engaging with college students.
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- But his emphasis on jesus
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- And the word of god really grew each year.
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- And so when you're seeing the last few years,
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- The heart that he has for people
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- When they're bringing, you know,
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- It might be packaged in a left wing political question, but
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- He would see that this person was in need of jesus.
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- And so when people think about him
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- As this, you know, political campus guy,
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- I think they're missing
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- That my i'm lutheran and my church in dc,
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- We we held a service the friday after
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- He was killed to commemorate him as a martyr.
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- And this like to sean's point, this is not something we do
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- And we are of a mixed political congregation.
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- But our pastors were explaining, you know,
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- This guy was killed for his beliefs.
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- He always explained the basis of his beliefs and
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- I think people have a confusion about martyrdom.
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- Like they think they'll hear stories from days of old.
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- They'll think it's like this
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- Purely religious situation with no political context.
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- But of course, martyrs are usually killed
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- Because they're running up against political regimes,
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- With with what they're having to say.
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- And to sean's point about
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- Being prepared to die.
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- And when we take our confirmation vows, we say,
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- Will you suffer all up to and including death
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- Before you renounce this?
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- And everybody, of course, says, yes, we will.
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- But i mean,
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- In recent years, it's been that realization like,
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- Oh, that might not be so theoretical.
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- Now, well, that's why the memorial was so powerful.
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- I remember when we were overseas,
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- When we got the news, and i remember
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- Just getting on my knees and begging god,
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- Almost thinking i could outsmart god.
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- God save him so that his life will glorify you.
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- And, you know, i got it here.
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- And then god answered, no, wait
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- Till i see how his death will glorify me and to to witness
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- The amazing power of christian martyrdom.
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- I mean, i wish it hadn't happened.
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- Why? i wish it had to happen.
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- But to see the fires being lit,
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- Because of the power of his faith and the power of everyone
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- Else's faith was truly, truly remarkable.
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- We've never witnessed anything like that in this country.
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- In genesis
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- 12 three, god made a powerful promise
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- To abraham, the father of the jewish people.
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- I will bless those who bless you.
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- The christian bible tells us
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- That we have been grafted into god's family tree.
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- The rich olive tree of israel,
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- The very foundations of the christian faith,
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- The bible and jesus, whom christians call
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- The messiah, are deeply rooted in israel.
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- Supporting israel aligns christians with god's
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- Prophetic timeline.
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- It demonstrates our willingness to be instruments of
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- God's blessing, uplifting his chosen people,
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- And it calls us to confront and heal
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- The centuries old wounds of anti-semitism.
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- The scripture says how good and how
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- Pleasant it is when brethren dwell together.
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- Neff, give us the rundown of this j.
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- Jones story.
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- And then we're going to have virginia residents.
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- Chime in. oh, you're not.
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- She is. yeah, yeah.
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- So this is, all unfolding in virginia.
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- This is jay jones.
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- He's the democrat running for attorney general in virginia.
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- So chief law enforcement officer.
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- So like the top of the state, top cop, top cop.
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- And so this is published by national review last week.
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- It's covering text messages from 2022.
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- What had happened then was a moderate
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- Democrat had died and there had been a funeral for him.
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- And a republican who was also somewhat moderate,
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- Had given, you know, a generally positive eulogy at,
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- A memorial or the funeral or something like that.
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- And afterwards jones sends text messages,
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- And he meant to send this to someone else.
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- Mark, we don't know what mark yet.
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- I believe, where he's just basically saying, barf. i'm
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- So annoyed at this, you know, positive saccharine stuff.
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- And he says, you know, if i die, they'll say
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- Something gross about me.
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- But then,
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- Even though he realizes he's
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- Been sending this to the wrong person,
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- And in fact, it's a republican in the state legislature,
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- He starts he just starts going off.
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- Let's put up 231.
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- And so he says, three people, two bullets.
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- Gilbert. that's the republican.
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- He's mad at, hitler.
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- And pol pot. gilbert.
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- If you have, you know, three people, two bullets.
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- Gilbert gets two bullets to the head over hitler
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- And over pol pot. we do have these images and.
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- Yeah. 231 yeah, there it is. and
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- He says, spoiler.
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- Put gilbert in the crew with the two worst people,
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- You know, and he receives both bullets every time.
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- And the republican replies, jay, please stop.
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- And what's incredible about this is his reaction to this is
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- Not to stop or say, oh, sorry, i meant this, or someone else.
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- According to national review, what he proceeded to do
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- Was call this woman on the phone
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- And we don't have that conversation.
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- But according to someone familiar, probably,
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- The woman herself,
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- He proceeds to berate her and, you know, push her and say
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- Like, no, i, i really mean that.
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- Stop being soft on the death question.
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- And he starts, he apparently told her that a,
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- Let's see,
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- He wished violence on the children of a colleague
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- And joked about shooting todd gilbert.
- 00:10:54.212 --> 00:10:56.514
- And he hoped that jennifer gilbert's children would die.
- 00:10:56.514 --> 00:11:00.885
- And then after this call, he starts sending follow up
- 00:11:00.885 --> 00:11:04.689
- Texts where he's still needling her on this and saying,
- 00:11:04.689 --> 00:11:07.759
- No, no, you don't get it.
- 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:09.193
- When children die, it's the only way that people
- 00:11:09.193 --> 00:11:11.496
- Will change their views on politics.
- 00:11:11.496 --> 00:11:13.064
- So i actually said on x that i'm somewhat understanding
- 00:11:13.064 --> 00:11:17.702
- If this was
- 00:11:17.702 --> 00:11:18.603
- He was talking to a friend of his
- 00:11:18.603 --> 00:11:20.071
- And said an extreme thing as a one off.
- 00:11:20.071 --> 00:11:22.440
- People say weird things in group texts.
- 00:11:22.440 --> 00:11:24.542
- They say stuff they don't really mean
- 00:11:24.542 --> 00:11:26.210
- Because they're heated and it's private.
- 00:11:26.210 --> 00:11:27.745
- But this is
- 00:11:27.745 --> 00:11:28.913
- He sent a message to someone who didn't agree with it.
- 00:11:28.913 --> 00:11:31.082
- They said, that's gross. you shouldn't say that. yeah.
- 00:11:31.082 --> 00:11:33.584
- And he felt
- 00:11:33.584 --> 00:11:34.652
- He calls them to harangue them for not agreeing this,
- 00:11:34.652 --> 00:11:36.754
- For being soft on the death of your opponent's children.
- 00:11:36.754 --> 00:11:39.290
- Question.
- 00:11:39.290 --> 00:11:40.424
- And repeatedly did this.
- 00:11:40.424 --> 00:11:42.360
- We have more or less put up a 232.
- 00:11:42.360 --> 00:11:44.195
- He sent additional messages, where he said,
- 00:11:44.195 --> 00:11:48.166
- I've told you this before.
- 00:11:48.166 --> 00:11:50.067
- Only when people feel pain personally
- 00:11:50.067 --> 00:11:52.436
- Do they move on policy.
- 00:11:52.436 --> 00:11:54.772
- And then 233 i mean, do i think todd and jennifer are evil
- 00:11:54.772 --> 00:11:59.210
- And that they're breeding little fascists? yes.
- 00:11:59.210 --> 00:12:03.781
- So all of this so this is all come out now.
- 00:12:03.781 --> 00:12:07.051
- And what we've seen is
- 00:12:07.051 --> 00:12:10.588
- Democrats are
- 00:12:10.955 --> 00:12:11.923
- Basically saying too bad he's a democrat.
- 00:12:11.923 --> 00:12:15.126
- He should still stay in the race
- 00:12:15.126 --> 00:12:16.227
- And we should vote for him.
- 00:12:16.227 --> 00:12:17.195
- 234 is a really important 234
- 00:12:17.195 --> 00:12:19.597
- This is the virginia beach democrats.
- 00:12:19.597 --> 00:12:21.332
- That is the largest city in virginia, where they say
- 00:12:21.332 --> 00:12:24.101
- That they're still supporting jones
- 00:12:24.101 --> 00:12:25.369
- Despite recent press spotlighting past mistakes.
- 00:12:25.369 --> 00:12:28.973
- Now, for comparison, because this is relevant,
- 00:12:28.973 --> 00:12:31.409
- This guy, jay jones,
- 00:12:31.409 --> 00:12:32.777
- Publicly called for the resignation
- 00:12:32.777 --> 00:12:35.479
- Of a norfolk police department officer
- 00:12:35.479 --> 00:12:38.082
- Because he donated money to kyle rittenhouse defense fund
- 00:12:38.082 --> 00:12:41.552
- In 2020.
- 00:12:41.819 --> 00:12:42.987
- Yeah, so donating to support someone who was acquitted
- 00:12:42.987 --> 00:12:46.090
- After he was attacked and was a self-defense?
- 00:12:46.090 --> 00:12:48.159
- Yeah.
- 00:12:48.159 --> 00:12:48.993
- In self-defense after being attacked
- 00:12:48.993 --> 00:12:50.127
- By a literal sex predator in the streets of kenosha.
- 00:12:50.127 --> 00:12:52.396
- A whole mob.
- 00:12:52.396 --> 00:12:53.598
- But yeah, a whole mob, but specifically the one he shot.
- 00:12:53.598 --> 00:12:56.100
- And he should be fired for donating to that defense.
- 00:12:56.100 --> 00:12:59.370
- But this guy
- 00:12:59.370 --> 00:13:00.571
- Directly, repeatedly, emphatically fantasizes
- 00:13:00.571 --> 00:13:03.541
- About the violent death of his opponent's children.
- 00:13:03.541 --> 00:13:06.911
- You know.
- 00:13:07.211 --> 00:13:08.379
- Well, so, molly and sean have any democrats, disavowed
- 00:13:08.379 --> 00:13:12.917
- What does that say
- 00:13:12.917 --> 00:13:13.951
- When joe scarborough is your moral north star?
- 00:13:13.951 --> 00:13:17.421
- You know,
- 00:13:17.722 --> 00:13:19.857
- I think
- 00:13:20.091 --> 00:13:20.925
- After the election,
- 00:13:20.925 --> 00:13:21.859
- Joe, actually, you know, tried to say, hey,
- 00:13:21.859 --> 00:13:25.463
- We need to wake up a little bit.
- 00:13:25.463 --> 00:13:26.597
- I saw some clips at least,
- 00:13:26.597 --> 00:13:28.599
- And shawn always tells me i'm too nice.
- 00:13:28.599 --> 00:13:30.601
- And i want to say that to you your way tonight.
- 00:13:30.601 --> 00:13:33.271
- Wow, i just listen, i'm feeling warm feelings
- 00:13:33.271 --> 00:13:35.873
- That like, okay, i'm not going great.
- 00:13:35.873 --> 00:13:37.408
- Like, you should get out of this race.
- 00:13:37.408 --> 00:13:40.044
- Jay jones you should.
- 00:13:40.044 --> 00:13:41.679
- And at least one person like, i'm looking for somebody here.
- 00:13:41.679 --> 00:13:45.016
- You know, it's
- 00:13:45.016 --> 00:13:46.117
- Like joe john fetterman sometimes makes me go like,
- 00:13:46.117 --> 00:13:48.953
- Like, good for him, even though he doesn't have the opposite.
- 00:13:48.953 --> 00:13:52.356
- So that letter
- 00:13:52.356 --> 00:13:53.424
- You showed from the virginia beach democrats, eight
- 00:13:53.424 --> 00:13:55.993
- Other democrat committees
- 00:13:55.993 --> 00:13:57.395
- In virginia have signed on to that letter.
- 00:13:57.395 --> 00:13:59.430
- That letter says, by the way,
- 00:13:59.430 --> 00:14:01.399
- Who am who among us, has not done something similar.
- 00:14:01.399 --> 00:14:04.535
- And i think among us has not really.
- 00:14:04.535 --> 00:14:06.070
- Somebody called
- 00:14:06.070 --> 00:14:07.438
- For the assassination of my political opponents
- 00:14:07.438 --> 00:14:09.707
- Or wished death on their children ever.
- 00:14:09.707 --> 00:14:11.142
- I mean, it's
- 00:14:11.142 --> 00:14:11.776
- Wouldn't even occur to me,
- 00:14:11.776 --> 00:14:12.944
- But i think they're
- 00:14:12.944 --> 00:14:14.011
- Telling on themselves there when they say this,
- 00:14:14.011 --> 00:14:15.680
- The reason
- 00:14:15.680 --> 00:14:16.948
- Why everyone is standing behind him and doing so vociferously
- 00:14:16.948 --> 00:14:19.984
- Is because i think we're seeing a party
- 00:14:19.984 --> 00:14:22.186
- That has kind of fallen into support for left wing violence.
- 00:14:22.186 --> 00:14:25.356
- The thing you mentioned, blake, about him going after that
- 00:14:25.356 --> 00:14:27.925
- Police lieutenant, who i think lost his career, by the way,
- 00:14:27.925 --> 00:14:30.661
- For that $25 donation to kyle rittenhouse, is that
- 00:14:30.661 --> 00:14:34.432
- It's all it's
- 00:14:34.432 --> 00:14:35.566
- All in the same package as the support for blm riots.
- 00:14:35.566 --> 00:14:38.369
- It's about the breakdown of law and order.
- 00:14:38.369 --> 00:14:40.571
- It's about using power to go
- 00:14:40.571 --> 00:14:42.073
- After your political opponents and
- 00:14:42.073 --> 00:14:44.542
- Do so violently.
- 00:14:44.942 --> 00:14:46.277
- And it's kind of breaking out into the open.
- 00:14:46.277 --> 00:14:48.646
- It's it's related to what we saw after
- 00:14:48.646 --> 00:14:50.548
- The assassination
- 00:14:50.548 --> 00:14:52.049
- Was the response to the assassination
- 00:14:52.049 --> 00:14:53.951
- Was almost more horrifying in some ways,
- 00:14:53.951 --> 00:14:55.987
- Realizing that there were so many people
- 00:14:55.987 --> 00:14:57.888
- Who supported this level of political violence
- 00:14:57.888 --> 00:14:59.790
- Against people like me and my children.
- 00:14:59.790 --> 00:15:01.792
- Well, i mean, that's that's
- 00:15:01.792 --> 00:15:04.195
- Really sick because, yeah, you guys are.
- 00:15:04.195 --> 00:15:06.197
- And you're in the dc swamp.
- 00:15:06.197 --> 00:15:08.165
- So you see this?
- 00:15:08.165 --> 00:15:09.300
- I mean, what bothered me, i'll never forget the most
- 00:15:09.300 --> 00:15:12.236
- Was where there was a shouting match
- 00:15:12.236 --> 00:15:14.805
- On the floor of congress over
- 00:15:14.805 --> 00:15:18.209
- A moment of silence and an a word of prayer.
- 00:15:18.209 --> 00:15:22.079
- And and, you know, ilhan omar and aoc are getting in there.
- 00:15:22.079 --> 00:15:25.016
- I mean, i could not believe it.
- 00:15:25.016 --> 00:15:26.417
- And god bless ana polina luna for standing up for charlie,
- 00:15:26.417 --> 00:15:29.687
- But i just i was like,
- 00:15:29.687 --> 00:15:30.855
- Can we not have unanimity about political violence?
- 00:15:30.855 --> 00:15:33.557
- Are we really at that point as a country
- 00:15:33.557 --> 00:15:35.926
- Where some people are like, wow, you know, punch a nazi?
- 00:15:35.926 --> 00:15:40.431
- It's really taken to the next level,
- 00:15:40.431 --> 00:15:43.601
- Especially in the aftermath of what happened to charlie.
- 00:15:43.601 --> 00:15:46.504
- You would think that that would be like an moment,
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- And instead it's for some people it's the exact opposite.
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- One out of every five pregnancies in the us
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- The great mollie
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- Hemingway and sean davis
- 00:17:01.514 --> 00:17:03.082
- From the federalist, also joined by blake neff.
- 00:17:03.082 --> 00:17:05.284
- And i'm andrew calvert.
- 00:17:05.284 --> 00:17:06.252
- So molly, sean, i feel like
- 00:17:06.252 --> 00:17:09.689
- Democrats are just sort of anti rule of law.
- 00:17:09.689 --> 00:17:13.593
- And i want to end with
- 00:17:13.593 --> 00:17:14.627
- This is something we've known for a long time,
- 00:17:14.627 --> 00:17:15.995
- But it's being exposed and but like deeper and deeper.
- 00:17:15.995 --> 00:17:18.364
- It's not just a meme anymore.
- 00:17:18.364 --> 00:17:19.432
- It's not just like a one liner.
- 00:17:19.432 --> 00:17:21.267
- It truly is starting to feel like if the country falls
- 00:17:21.267 --> 00:17:24.403
- Into their hands again, that
- 00:17:24.403 --> 00:17:26.806
- I don't even want to think about.
- 00:17:27.540 --> 00:17:28.307
- I saw your eyes instantly at.
- 00:17:28.307 --> 00:17:30.743
- It's really a scary thought, because there's one side
- 00:17:30.743 --> 00:17:33.246
- That still believes in rules and norms and customs and laws,
- 00:17:33.246 --> 00:17:37.250
- And there's another side
- 00:17:37.250 --> 00:17:38.351
- That just seems to be throwing out all these rules
- 00:17:38.351 --> 00:17:40.019
- And although they will accuse us of the same,
- 00:17:40.019 --> 00:17:42.121
- Which is hilarious, but you're like,
- 00:17:42.121 --> 00:17:44.857
- Is there any sanity left in this party or what?
- 00:17:44.857 --> 00:17:47.326
- What do we do to get them back to sanity?
- 00:17:47.326 --> 00:17:49.295
- I really think that the era that we saw
- 00:17:49.295 --> 00:17:52.198
- Post the first trump presidency, where the left used
- 00:17:52.198 --> 00:17:55.835
- Lawfare to go after political opponents, try to keep trump
- 00:17:55.835 --> 00:17:59.372
- And the republicans from being on the ballot,
- 00:17:59.372 --> 00:18:01.507
- Trying to throw them in prison,
- 00:18:01.507 --> 00:18:03.009
- Bankrupt them, go after their family,
- 00:18:03.009 --> 00:18:05.077
- Go after anyone who supported them.
- 00:18:05.077 --> 00:18:07.013
- That went on with pretty much no resistance.
- 00:18:07.013 --> 00:18:09.782
- Not just no resistance from corporate media,
- 00:18:09.782 --> 00:18:12.451
- But also not much resistance from the right.
- 00:18:12.451 --> 00:18:15.154
- I mean, normal people were horrified by it.
- 00:18:15.154 --> 00:18:17.623
- It's a big reason
- 00:18:17.623 --> 00:18:18.658
- Why trump won again when he ran again in 2024.
- 00:18:18.658 --> 00:18:21.894
- But it put us on a very bad path, and you don't hear
- 00:18:21.894 --> 00:18:25.331
- People really dealing with that or how,
- 00:18:25.331 --> 00:18:27.833
- You know, even the russia collusion hoax
- 00:18:27.833 --> 00:18:29.869
- That began in 2016 was a way of using our justice system
- 00:18:29.869 --> 00:18:34.273
- To go after political opponents.
- 00:18:34.273 --> 00:18:35.808
- It's always kind of been there,
- 00:18:35.808 --> 00:18:36.976
- You know, human nature being what it is, it's
- 00:18:36.976 --> 00:18:38.511
- Always been there and you've had to fight against it.
- 00:18:38.511 --> 00:18:40.346
- It just broke out completely into the open
- 00:18:40.346 --> 00:18:42.848
- With no guardrails from anybody on the left that i can see.
- 00:18:42.848 --> 00:18:47.086
- Oh, yeah, i mean, if they get power again,
- 00:18:47.086 --> 00:18:49.121
- We're all going to gulags.
- 00:18:49.121 --> 00:18:50.556
- Like there, there will be there will be gulags.
- 00:18:50.556 --> 00:18:53.826
- We will be some of the first people there.
- 00:18:53.826 --> 00:18:56.462
- They're not even bashful
- 00:18:56.462 --> 00:18:59.699
- About saying what they believe, when they will go out
- 00:18:59.699 --> 00:19:02.335
- And praise the murder of someone.
- 00:19:02.335 --> 00:19:04.537
- I mean, there were public
- 00:19:04.537 --> 00:19:05.605
- Universities, taxpayer funded universities that were,
- 00:19:05.605 --> 00:19:08.975
- Allowing people
- 00:19:08.975 --> 00:19:10.142
- Using taxpayer funds to praise charlie's murderer.
- 00:19:10.142 --> 00:19:12.945
- So when people will openly go out and be like,
- 00:19:12.945 --> 00:19:15.681
- Yeah, i'm glad that person i disliked his dead,
- 00:19:15.681 --> 00:19:19.986
- They're letting you know
- 00:19:19.986 --> 00:19:21.120
- There's no limit to what they will do, to take power.
- 00:19:21.120 --> 00:19:24.657
- It's i would it would it hurt me to be like,
- 00:19:24.657 --> 00:19:28.261
- You know, it's like, you know, and then they're trying
- 00:19:28.261 --> 00:19:30.496
- To compare it to george floyd, right?
- 00:19:30.496 --> 00:19:34.500
- And i remember thinking like, listen, i'm no fan.
- 00:19:34.500 --> 00:19:37.303
- I don't like what happened in the aftermath,
- 00:19:37.303 --> 00:19:39.138
- But there is not a shred an ounce in my person
- 00:19:39.138 --> 00:19:43.509
- That isn't sad that he is dead.
- 00:19:43.509 --> 00:19:46.212
- You know, i mean, like,
- 00:19:46.212 --> 00:19:47.346
- I am sad that that that incident took his life.
- 00:19:47.346 --> 00:19:50.783
- I will disagree on a lot of things around it,
- 00:19:50.783 --> 00:19:53.686
- But to imagine, you know, finding joy in somebody
- 00:19:53.686 --> 00:19:57.857
- Parting this life prematurely
- 00:19:57.857 --> 00:19:59.525
- In any way, shape or form is just it.
- 00:19:59.525 --> 00:20:01.494
- Unless it's the state and death penalty, sure.
- 00:20:01.494 --> 00:20:03.396
- But like there, i mean, it's just such a nasty,
- 00:20:03.396 --> 00:20:06.666
- Nasty, ghoulish like vile thing to do.
- 00:20:06.666 --> 00:20:09.368
- And yet they were
- 00:20:09.368 --> 00:20:10.603
- They've lost all sense of decency
- 00:20:10.603 --> 00:20:12.204
- That they were doing it in the open.
- 00:20:12.204 --> 00:20:14.206
- They were putting it on
- 00:20:14.206 --> 00:20:14.907
- Social media
- 00:20:14.907 --> 00:20:16.108
- As if, as if like they were going to get praised for it.
- 00:20:16.108 --> 00:20:18.444
- I do think this is an area
- 00:20:18.444 --> 00:20:19.612
- Where people on the right are, through their naivete
- 00:20:19.612 --> 00:20:22.715
- Or lack of imagination, aren't dealing
- 00:20:22.715 --> 00:20:24.717
- With all these loud signs that are half
- 00:20:24.717 --> 00:20:26.519
- My algorithm is different than their algorithm.
- 00:20:26.519 --> 00:20:29.121
- But yeah,
- 00:20:29.121 --> 00:20:30.189
- I, i'm, i'm just saying they're being kind of open
- 00:20:30.189 --> 00:20:32.191
- About their support for violence.
- 00:20:32.191 --> 00:20:33.726
- The new york times is open about it.
- 00:20:33.726 --> 00:20:35.494
- The atlantic is open about it.
- 00:20:35.494 --> 00:20:37.463
- The democrats in virginia are very open about it.
- 00:20:37.463 --> 00:20:40.299
- And i think people on the right, because we aren't
- 00:20:40.299 --> 00:20:43.235
- People who seek the death of our political opponents.
- 00:20:43.235 --> 00:20:45.971
- We're kind of like, what do you think
- 00:20:45.971 --> 00:20:46.906
- They're saying here?
- 00:20:46.906 --> 00:20:48.007
- Well, they're saying it pretty loudly.
- 00:20:48.007 --> 00:20:50.643
- I don't know exactly what the right response to this is,
- 00:20:50.643 --> 00:20:53.212
- But i think it's definitely incumbent
- 00:20:53.212 --> 00:20:55.181
- Upon people to take it very seriously.
- 00:20:55.181 --> 00:20:57.650
- The struggle
- 00:20:57.650 --> 00:20:58.851
- That we have kind of being in, like the political commentary,
- 00:20:58.851 --> 00:21:02.054
- Dc news space, is that there's still a lot of dinosaurs
- 00:21:02.054 --> 00:21:05.691
- On the right who think we'll win
- 00:21:05.691 --> 00:21:08.527
- Through the power of our ideas, and that's all we have to do.
- 00:21:08.527 --> 00:21:11.797
- Yeah, well, i mean, listen, i don't think
- 00:21:11.797 --> 00:21:13.332
- We're, like, naive here, i really don't, but
- 00:21:13.332 --> 00:21:16.102
- It's still so shocking that it's it's even worse than.
- 00:21:16.102 --> 00:21:19.205
- I mean,
- 00:21:19.205 --> 00:21:20.439
- We knew they were coming from as charlie predicted, he was
- 00:21:20.439 --> 00:21:21.774
- Going to be in the gulags if if, trump didn't win.
- 00:21:21.774 --> 00:21:25.678
- But it's it's just one of those amazing things.
- 00:21:25.678 --> 00:21:27.646
- And now they're trying.
- 00:21:27.646 --> 00:21:28.547
- It's funny, i've seen this this,
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- Comms director for gavin newsom.
- 00:21:29.982 --> 00:21:31.751
- So, so this judge, i guess.
- 00:21:31.751 --> 00:21:34.019
- What is it, south carolina or something?
- 00:21:34.019 --> 00:21:35.388
- The house catches on fire,
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- And i don't even have the judge's name.
- 00:21:37.356 --> 00:21:39.592
- I don't know if you know the name of the judge,
- 00:21:39.592 --> 00:21:41.026
- But then this is regarding.
- 00:21:41.026 --> 00:21:42.495
- I throw this clip up if you can.
- 00:21:42.495 --> 00:21:44.196
- This image up is basically said a few weeks ago,
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- One of trump's top doj officials publicly,
- 00:21:46.632 --> 00:21:48.801
- Publicly targeted this judge.
- 00:21:48.801 --> 00:21:50.269
- Today, the judge's home is on fire.
- 00:21:50.269 --> 00:21:51.937
- Basically trying to take the fact
- 00:21:51.937 --> 00:21:54.640
- That we're all complaining about political violence
- 00:21:54.640 --> 00:21:56.542
- Targeting conservatives and both sides in it.
- 00:21:56.542 --> 00:21:59.779
- A couple things here.
- 00:21:59.779 --> 00:22:00.613
- First of all,
- 00:22:00.613 --> 00:22:01.714
- I mean the house, by the way, didn't just burn down.
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- It exploded. it was very bad.
- 00:22:03.249 --> 00:22:05.184
- There is an arson investigation,
- 00:22:05.184 --> 00:22:07.586
- But also could be a gas line explosion.
- 00:22:07.586 --> 00:22:09.688
- Like nobody knows anything right now.
- 00:22:09.688 --> 00:22:11.824
- But nobody, even if they're very upset
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- With left wing judges completely
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- Not following the law of the land
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- And having the in trying to do some kind of judicial coup.
- 00:22:19.331 --> 00:22:21.700
- Nobody seeks the death of these people,
- 00:22:21.700 --> 00:22:23.836
- Of what you're exceptional at?
- 00:22:23.836 --> 00:22:25.404
- You're very, very good at a lot of things.
- 00:22:25.404 --> 00:22:27.840
- But i if there's ever kind of like a weird hoax thing,
- 00:22:27.840 --> 00:22:31.277
- You know, where they're they're twisting some narrative
- 00:22:31.277 --> 00:22:33.279
- And they've got some
- 00:22:33.279 --> 00:22:34.513
- You can feel it's like new hoax alert, right?
- 00:22:34.513 --> 00:22:37.483
- Just go to the federalist.
- 00:22:37.483 --> 00:22:38.317
- Molly's probably got a piece out
- 00:22:38.317 --> 00:22:39.752
- Within about 24 hours where it's really thorough,
- 00:22:39.752 --> 00:22:42.254
- Or it's
- 00:22:42.254 --> 00:22:43.189
- One of your other journalists would it's
- 00:22:43.189 --> 00:22:44.857
- Really a great service that you do for the movement.
- 00:22:44.857 --> 00:22:47.326
- I have to say. thanks. very happy to do.
- 00:22:47.326 --> 00:22:48.861
- Yeah, it's it's amazing.
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- Yeah.
- 00:22:50.563 --> 00:22:51.530
- I think we discovered accidentally something
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- That y'all probably knew for a while
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- That when you're not based in dc
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- And when you don't have everyone who lives in dc,
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- You get a different perspective.
- 00:22:58.938 --> 00:23:00.306
- You get exposed to normal people who have different views
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- And opinions than the consensus in washington.
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- And it frees you up to just say what you think
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- And what you believe.
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- And with us having
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- Most of our writers, nearly all of our freelancers
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- Out living normal lives, out in real america,
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- It really changes your perspective on politics.
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- And it kind of gives you the courage
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- And the freedom you need to just say what you believe.
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- I love that.
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- And everybody should check out the federalist,
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- Truly one of the gems and most important,
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- Publications that we have in the conservative movement,
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