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Charlie Kirk Today | Raheem Kassam: June 9, 2026 | Charlie Kirk Today | June 9, 2026
- We're welcoming back
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- Our good friend rahim kassam from the national pulse.com.
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- Good to see you, raheem.
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- How you been? it's been too long. thank you.
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- Thank you gents.
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- Always, always an honor to be on. hope you're all well.
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- We're doing well.
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- We just had a great weekend in san antonio.
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- We went through all the clips, all the fun,
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- All the, the video fun.
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- But we got to turn our
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- Attention here, raheem, to, what's going on in iran?
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- What's going on?
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- With the israel hezbollah, the strikes
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- Going back and forth.
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- President trump was on with, welker over at nbc.
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- It was a very contentious, interview.
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- But here's trump in his own words. 38.
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- I don't like these endless wars.
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- This is not an endless war.
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- We've been doing this for three months.
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- Much of it has been under the form of
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- Pretty good form of ceasefire.
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- The blockade has been amazing.
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- Our navy is amazing.
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- Our military is the best in the world.
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- So he's he's saying,
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- I don't like these forever wars,
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- Which is something that we've
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- Always sort of baked into the cake with president trump.
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- But then you've got iran striking, israel
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- Sending missiles into israel.
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- Israel striking a, look at
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- That is like a petro plant in, in western iran.
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- There's all this hezbollah stuff.
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- You know, you are
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- A student of international geopolitics, raheem.
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- It's part of the way that you
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- You just your make up in politics
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- Because you have been back and forth across the atlantic.
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- So what do you make of this?
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- You know, trump is telling israel to stand down.
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- How do you see this playing out over the next days and weeks?
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- Yeah.
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- I think the answer that everybody,
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- You know, here on capitol hill, where i'm sitting right now,
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- The answer that everybody gives is, is very simple.
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- It's a mess.
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- And it's it's a mess because i think most people recognize
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- That in advance of beginning this operation,
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- There wasn't a lot of forward planning.
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- No, no,
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- There was some, but not as much as one might have hoped for.
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- Expected,
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- What happens in any given scenario and the scenario
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- We find ourselves in is one of the few that just
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- Simply wasn't war game.
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- Now, especially, the failure to bring in,
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- European partners.
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- And i don't think it's
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- A failure necessarily on the administration side,
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- I think the european partners themselves,
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- Have to look in the mirror
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- And ask themselves questions about where they've been.
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- Over the course of this, especially given
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- How many of them were so willing
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- To work with the obama administration to lift
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- Sanctions to help the iranians, to try and bring them in
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- To the international fold.
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- And then when trump tries to do something that, you know,
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- Given is different and, a little bit more, sporadic
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- And spur of the moment,
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- They all just sort of washed
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- Their hands
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- Of international affairs and wash their hands of the region.
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- Even though, a lot of them are, heavily
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- Reliant on what comes through
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- The strait of hormuz, it seems like an abdication,
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- In a sense, on their part.
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- I mean, you know,
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- Even if you don't want to do it, you have to.
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- Realpolitik will slap you in the face with
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- With you know, both the front and the back of the hand.
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- And it seems like those slaps just haven't woken, any of the
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- Longstanding european european partners up either.
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- So it's a mess all over.
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- What i expect to happen from here is just more of the same,
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- I'm afraid.
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- You know,
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- The markets won't like it
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- And people won't like
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- The impact that it has and continues
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- To have in their pockets.
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- But, in an absence of, you know, quote unquote
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- Finishing the job, this this will just continue to go on.
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- And, you know, i have a lot of questions
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- Over, what netanyahu's goal here is.
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- What is domestic, you know, goals of his own sake.
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- And president trump has spoken to some of those,
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- Spoke to some of those this weekend, right.
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- Especially the interview with the financial times
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- Where he was adamant, you know, that he's
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- Calling the shots in the region.
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- And regardless, israel have sort of gone well, actually,
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- We're going to do what we want anyway.
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- And said, look,
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- We have a right to
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- Defend ourselves. and i think that's
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- That's perfectly reasonable and rational.
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- But it just goes to show that there isn't really one
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- Key character, one key leader in all of this.
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- And it may take and i know it will make
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- Some people uncomfortable,
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- But it may take some further inducements
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- From the white house to get israel on board,
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- With what the white house now wants,
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- Because, you know, the white house did
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- What israel wants for the last couple of months.
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- There's no doubt about it. i'm not saying they were led.
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- I'm saying that they found
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- Neutral, common ground and they did it together.
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- Right.
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- Now israel has to decide whether or not it wants to play
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- A little bit more compromise.
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- Back.
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- And i'm just i'm not sure that there yet.
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- Yeah, i agree, you know, president
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- Trump took to truth social a throw up.
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- 136, please.
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- And you'll see president trump's truth here.
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- He's saying both sides, israel and iran are looking
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- To do an immediate cease fire, find no negotiations.
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- On peace are proceeding.
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- So anyways, he's basically
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- Willing this cease fire, he told axios.
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- Okay.
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- And they think he told the same thing to fox.
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- He said, listen, okay, iran shot off a couple missiles.
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- Israel, you shot off a couple of missiles. okay.
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- You know, let's a little fight.
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- Tomorrow will be bro's again. everybody put down their arms.
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- It's almost like you can feel
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- President trump pushing willing.
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- And you can imagine the
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- Private conversations behind the scenes.
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- The phone calls are a little bit more, spicy than i think.
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- He's gotten very used to that back
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- And forth song and dance of these.
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- Oh, they shoot off a missile to show that they're serious,
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- Because he's done this with iran himself several times.
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- Yeah, yeah.
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- And i think this actually shows president trump's
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- Leadership here.
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- I mean, that clip
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- That we started the segment off with rahim,
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- I think is the guiding north star
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- That he doesn't want to do a forever war.
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- This was something i knew
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- Charlie knew about the president very, very well.
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- Now, listen,
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- Iran was probably the biggest lift that we've seen.
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- It was the most, risky.
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- It was the
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- Going up against
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- The most populous country, it
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- Of any of these sort of conflicts.
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- So i understand people's reticence.
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- I understand people's, skepticism.
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- I've certainly been skeptical of this, of this effort.
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- I thought,
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- You know, you can start a war, but you can't always end one.
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- And that's really the question here.
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- You could get some ink on paper signed.
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- You could even open up the strait.
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- But that's not going to stop
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- Some of these rogue elements within iran that are hardliners
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- That are still vying for power and supremacy in that country
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- From shooting off a couple of missiles
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- From land to mines in the strait.
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- I mean, this could just sort of go on for a long time here.
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- I don't see the the natural way out.
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- And i think to your point, that's why it's a mess.
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- But i think trump is making his intentions very clear.
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- And he's sending a signal loud and clear that he's in charge.
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- Whether or not
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- He can get the deal done or not is the question.
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- Yeah. look, there are
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- There are several things to think about here.
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- You know, the president
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- Of the united states could abdicate on this now
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- And just say, look, i've tried we did what we needed to do.
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- You guys sort it out between yourselves.
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- But he's not doing that right.
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- He's still trying, to to play the role of peacemaker,
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- To bring people together.
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- I think that's, you know, it's it's it's commendable,
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- In its spirit
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- Of what he's doing, there are certain levers
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- That he's going to be able to pull.
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- And i think you'll see him pull on them this week that
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- That may bring those,
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- You know, parties back to the table again.
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- You know,
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- You know, it's not just israel and iran, by the way.
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- I mean, you look at the same thing with russia
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- And ukraine, you know, putting these people's
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- Heads together and saying, look,
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- We know you don't want to keep killing one another.
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- We know it's not good for either of your countries,
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- Either of your peoples.
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- But are you willing to take
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- The requisite steps to make that happen?
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- The problem is, finding that mutual ground
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- Is becoming more and more difficult.
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- And, i think the normalization,
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- Like you say, very hard to end these things.
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- Look, i was against it when it first started, but
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- But you also have to be realistic.
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- We're here now. we can't win the clock back.
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- We can't. we didn't build time machines.
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- We have to deal with what?
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- With the hand we dealt here.
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- And the hand
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- We dealt now
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- That the president has been dealt
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- Is this is this intransigence on both sides?
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- And again, not just this on the around
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- Happens in conflict all over the world.
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- Intransigence, intransigence.
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- And that comes from normalization.
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- The leaders of those countries are normalizing
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- The state of war for their own two peoples.
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- And that's what you have to break.
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- You know, early on in this, conflict, the idea
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- That the iranian people would come out on the streets
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- And march on the streets
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- And welcome this change in their government
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- Isn't something that's come to fruition.
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- I think it may be time, well, again,
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- To call on the iranian people and just see if there
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- Are those forces deliberate.
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- You've got great insights on all of that.
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- So stay right there.
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- More with rahim kassam
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- When we get back the national post polls.com.
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- When we get back the national post polls.com.
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- We have rahim kasam from
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- The national pulse.com editor in chief there.
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- Check it out.
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- So, rahim, there is so much going on in europe now.
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- This isn't just
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- Staying in the u.k., which is i think is interesting,
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- But we've gone over it in great detail in the show.
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- Henry novak was killed in this very tragic way.
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- I mean, it's sort of everything
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- The left wanted george floyd to be.
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- But upon further inspection, was not.
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- But this kid was actually he did nothing wrong.
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- He didn't hurl racist, racist insults at his killer.
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- The man was able to hold a basically a sword in public
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- When henry and other native born brits are not allowed
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- To even carry pepper spray, and he was killed with this
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- Religious exemption murder weapon,
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- And he said, i can't breathe.
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- And the cops denied it.
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- And the poor guy bled out on the streets.
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- And we didn't hear about this
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- For six months, raheem six months.
- 00:09:43.737 --> 00:09:46.540
- And then of course, outrage has ensued.
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- Tell us what's happening on the streets in
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- The uk, but then also beyond.
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- Well, you
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- Know, i can't think of this case
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- And even see a picture of henry novak, let alone
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- Watch that footage again without feeling,
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- You know, angry and disgusted
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- And and just let down in,
- 00:10:08.929 --> 00:10:12.866
- You know, a lot of these things that our governments do
- 00:10:12.866 --> 00:10:17.004
- Are very predictable and very dull, very eye rolling.
- 00:10:17.004 --> 00:10:21.075
- And you sort of just go, oh, you know, stupid.
- 00:10:21.075 --> 00:10:24.011
- This is different.
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- This is this is the state,
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- The police being informed that they necessarily
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- Must treat people with foreign ethnic backgrounds
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- As more privileged as, as with greater sensitivity
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- And with greater, emphasis on their claims than white
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- People, not just the, you know, native british born people.
- 00:10:47.000 --> 00:10:51.438
- But this is this is necessarily skin color
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- That they're talking about that
- 00:10:54.875 --> 00:10:56.009
- Delineates how a police force treats you,
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- Not just as you're walking down the street,
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- But when you're
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- Being pulled over in a car, but as a life threatening
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- And as we saw in this case, life ending
- 00:11:06.053 --> 00:11:09.289
- Altercation is happening in real time.
- 00:11:09.289 --> 00:11:12.693
- So you can imagine, and i'm sure lots of your audience
- 00:11:12.693 --> 00:11:15.729
- Has seen the scenes of what's been going on
- 00:11:15.729 --> 00:11:18.499
- Across the united kingdom as a result of this,
- 00:11:18.499 --> 00:11:21.435
- The anchors pouring out into the streets.
- 00:11:21.435 --> 00:11:23.937
- And i can't blame people for that.
- 00:11:23.937 --> 00:11:25.906
- Do i hope that there's riots and other people get hurt?
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- Of course not.
- 00:11:29.510 --> 00:11:31.245
- But the demonstrations, the protests, they're all welcome.
- 00:11:31.245 --> 00:11:35.449
- They should be welcome.
- 00:11:35.449 --> 00:11:36.583
- The police have to take a long, hard look at themselves
- 00:11:36.583 --> 00:11:39.820
- And more than anything, the guidance that police forces
- 00:11:39.820 --> 00:11:43.791
- Are given is two tier guidance needs to come to an end.
- 00:11:43.791 --> 00:11:48.028
- Not that when the next government comes into power.
- 00:11:48.028 --> 00:11:52.132
- But today, and unfortunately, this labor government
- 00:11:52.132 --> 00:11:55.869
- Is showing no signs.
- 00:11:55.869 --> 00:11:57.204
- You know, you saw two tier police response.
- 00:11:57.204 --> 00:11:59.606
- You now seeing a two tier government response
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- When it was george floyd.
- 00:12:03.076 --> 00:12:04.244
- Even in the united kingdom, when it was george floyd,
- 00:12:04.244 --> 00:12:06.880
- Everybody got on their hands and knees and grovel for months
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- And years on end.
- 00:12:09.783 --> 00:12:10.951
- The english premier league, the big soccer league.
- 00:12:10.951 --> 00:12:13.353
- The players took the knee
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- At the beginning of matches for two years.
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- Have we seen any of that for henry novak?
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- We have not.
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- Yeah.
- 00:12:20.894 --> 00:12:21.395
- And you're talking
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- About a race action plan that these police follow.
- 00:12:22.496 --> 00:12:24.998
- That is to to your point,
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- It's intentionally racist against white people.
- 00:12:26.567 --> 00:12:28.769
- And we've seen other horrifying things.
- 00:12:28.769 --> 00:12:30.737
- It's come out now that the police in the area,
- 00:12:30.737 --> 00:12:34.007
- Even after they had ample reason
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- To believe that this was a lie,
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- That novak had done nothing wrong,
- 00:12:37.311 --> 00:12:39.012
- That they were planning to put out statements
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- Suggesting he had been the aggressor
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- Because they, you know, you have to tamp down
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- Everything in britain.
- 00:12:45.519 --> 00:12:46.820
- It feel raheem, it feels in britain
- 00:12:46.820 --> 00:12:48.488
- Like the police have this attitude
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- Of we're occupying a country and we have to do
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- Whatever is possible to keep the restive population
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- From having some kind of uprising.
- 00:12:57.097 --> 00:12:58.665
- The natives will get restless.
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- Yeah.
- 00:13:00.968 --> 00:13:01.401
- That's right.
- 00:13:01.401 --> 00:13:02.369
- I mean, all of the thought we've heard over
- 00:13:02.369 --> 00:13:03.737
- Multiculturalism and social cohesion,
- 00:13:03.737 --> 00:13:05.806
- You know, the likes of three of us have understood
- 00:13:05.806 --> 00:13:08.575
- What those are all, dog whistles for all these years.
- 00:13:08.575 --> 00:13:12.379
- You know, certainly the man
- 00:13:12.379 --> 00:13:13.881
- I wrote a book about, years ago,
- 00:13:13.881 --> 00:13:16.116
- You know, powell knew what all of those things were about.
- 00:13:16.116 --> 00:13:19.453
- Now, the british public
- 00:13:19.453 --> 00:13:20.687
- Have woken up to what all those things are about.
- 00:13:20.687 --> 00:13:23.223
- They are.
- 00:13:23.223 --> 00:13:23.757
- They are buzzwords.
- 00:13:23.757 --> 00:13:25.192
- They are weak phrases that are really, really meant
- 00:13:25.192 --> 00:13:28.929
- To suggest, actually, an anti white supremacy
- 00:13:28.929 --> 00:13:32.499
- That's going on in britain. right.
- 00:13:32.499 --> 00:13:33.600
- Exactly right. well said.
- 00:13:33.600 --> 00:13:34.968
- Anti-white supremacy.
- 00:13:34.968 --> 00:13:36.436
- Now i want to get into reform versus restore.
- 00:13:36.436 --> 00:13:39.439
- Okay.
- 00:13:39.439 --> 00:13:40.607
- So if i look on the internet, i am very much convinced
- 00:13:40.607 --> 00:13:43.677
- That nigel farage is going to come out on immigration.
- 00:13:43.677 --> 00:13:46.546
- And rupert lowe is the is the real hardliner here.
- 00:13:46.546 --> 00:13:50.150
- And then i saw this video of you, and i had
- 00:13:50.150 --> 00:13:54.621
- I had never seen these clips before.
- 00:13:54.621 --> 00:13:56.356
- 31 in fact,
- 00:13:56.356 --> 00:13:57.691
- Rupert lowe is actually weaker on a lot of the mass
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- Deportation stuff
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- Than reform is the interviews that he's done
- 00:14:01.428 --> 00:14:03.530
- With jacob rees-mogg, the interviews
- 00:14:03.530 --> 00:14:05.232
- He's done with spectator and gb news over
- 00:14:05.232 --> 00:14:07.801
- The last couple of months show that to be the case, though
- 00:14:07.801 --> 00:14:09.770
- I don't think intellectually i'm against immigration.
- 00:14:09.770 --> 00:14:12.639
- I have never said
- 00:14:12.639 --> 00:14:14.007
- We should deport people who are here legally.
- 00:14:14.007 --> 00:14:16.543
- That's not something i think we should be talking about.
- 00:14:16.543 --> 00:14:19.613
- Legal immigration is more more difficult.
- 00:14:19.613 --> 00:14:21.481
- I've never talked about repatriation.
- 00:14:21.481 --> 00:14:23.150
- Repatriation is a much more difficult subject.
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- I don't agree
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- With nigel farage in saying that,
- 00:14:26.653 --> 00:14:28.522
- You know, all these people should be repatriated.
- 00:14:28.522 --> 00:14:30.691
- You can't once you've legally accepted people.
- 00:14:30.691 --> 00:14:33.226
- This is all code
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- For deportation, deportations, right?
- 00:14:34.027 --> 00:14:35.762
- I mean, it's essentially de naturalization.
- 00:14:35.762 --> 00:14:37.597
- What okay.
- 00:14:37.597 --> 00:14:38.832
- Makes sense of it. rahim, you got the last two minutes.
- 00:14:38.832 --> 00:14:41.101
- The floor is all yours.
- 00:14:41.101 --> 00:14:42.869
- Look, very quickly, because i know we've only got
- 00:14:42.869 --> 00:14:44.905
- Two minutes.
- 00:14:44.905 --> 00:14:45.906
- Nigel farage and rupert lowe, worked together
- 00:14:45.906 --> 00:14:48.976
- For a long time.
- 00:14:48.976 --> 00:14:49.776
- There was a big falling out,
- 00:14:49.776 --> 00:14:51.411
- You know, internecine party politics.
- 00:14:51.411 --> 00:14:55.048
- He said this. she said that whatever.
- 00:14:55.048 --> 00:14:57.484
- Right now, they're leading two separate parties on the right.
- 00:14:57.484 --> 00:15:01.254
- Nigel farage is obviously mr.
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- Brexit.
- 00:15:03.090 --> 00:15:03.957
- He's done this for 30 years now
- 00:15:03.957 --> 00:15:06.293
- Banging the drum on immigration, banging
- 00:15:06.293 --> 00:15:08.428
- The drum on the illegals coming over the channel.
- 00:15:08.428 --> 00:15:10.464
- He himself has been there.
- 00:15:10.464 --> 00:15:11.698
- He was talking about rape and grooming gangs back in 2012.
- 00:15:11.698 --> 00:15:16.203
- Ukip, his previous party ran on it in 2014,
- 00:15:16.203 --> 00:15:20.107
- Pilloried by the establishment, of course, for it, but
- 00:15:20.107 --> 00:15:23.477
- Was one of the first out there, as a politician to do it.
- 00:15:23.477 --> 00:15:27.014
- When rupert lowe was kicked out of reform, last year,
- 00:15:27.014 --> 00:15:30.417
- It was the first time he ever spoke
- 00:15:30.417 --> 00:15:31.952
- About grooming gangs, the first time ever in 2025.
- 00:15:31.952 --> 00:15:36.023
- And it's made it sort of his little thing now.
- 00:15:36.023 --> 00:15:38.558
- And that's fine.
- 00:15:38.558 --> 00:15:39.326
- By the way, i think more voices on
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- On a topic like that better.
- 00:15:40.761 --> 00:15:42.496
- But i also think,
- 00:15:42.496 --> 00:15:44.031
- You know, running,
- 00:15:44.031 --> 00:15:45.165
- You know, supposedly to the right of nigel farrell's.
- 00:15:45.165 --> 00:15:47.534
- But then you see from those clips is not really true.
- 00:15:47.534 --> 00:15:49.603
- And the spectator has a great article on it as well.
- 00:15:49.603 --> 00:15:52.672
- And splitting the right wing vote.
- 00:15:52.672 --> 00:15:54.674
- Well, what that means,
- 00:15:54.674 --> 00:15:56.076
- And we've got a special election coming up on june
- 00:15:56.076 --> 00:15:58.178
- The 18th in the uk that will bear this out.
- 00:15:58.178 --> 00:16:00.447
- What that actually means
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- Is that the labor party are likely to get another
- 00:16:01.748 --> 00:16:04.618
- Five years in power, or if you think joe biden
- 00:16:04.618 --> 00:16:08.355
- Flooded the us while he was in office,
- 00:16:08.355 --> 00:16:11.825
- You know, we think about what a far left labor party would do
- 00:16:11.825 --> 00:16:15.929
- If the right cannot come together and agree.
- 00:16:15.929 --> 00:16:19.032
- Hey, listen, there's one party here that is established.
- 00:16:19.032 --> 00:16:22.069
- Its role has pulled top in the last 300 polls across
- 00:16:22.069 --> 00:16:25.272
- The country is ready for government, has a shadow
- 00:16:25.272 --> 00:16:28.308
- Cabinet, is ready to go with the manifesto and listen.
- 00:16:28.308 --> 00:16:31.745
- Like i say, i totally understand
- 00:16:31.745 --> 00:16:33.580
- The people that want harder
- 00:16:33.580 --> 00:16:34.848
- Talk and harder lines on the internet.
- 00:16:34.848 --> 00:16:36.416
- That's fine. there's a place for it.
- 00:16:36.416 --> 00:16:37.851
- But when it comes to the voting booth,
- 00:16:37.851 --> 00:16:39.786
- I'll stick with reform.
- 00:16:39.786 --> 00:16:41.521
- Well, we like nigel.
- 00:16:41.988 --> 00:16:43.323
- I'm trying to get nigel on the show here soon, and,
- 00:16:43.323 --> 00:16:46.026
- I think that's going to happen
- 00:16:46.026 --> 00:16:47.127
- Because i think it is terrifying.
- 00:16:47.127 --> 00:16:50.664
- What labor would do to that country
- 00:16:50.664 --> 00:16:52.132
- If given five more years.
- 00:16:52.132 --> 00:16:53.266
- Something's got to be done. rahim.
- 00:16:53.266 --> 00:16:54.935
- And we're here to help as much as we can.
- 00:16:54.935 --> 00:16:57.070
- God bless you, my friend.
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- We'll talk to you soon.
- 00:16:58.004 --> 00:17:02.997
- We'll talk to you soon.
- 00:17:02.997 --> 00:17:08.574
- We've got updates in the iranian israel.
- 00:17:09.408 --> 00:17:12.344
- Yeah, they're happening live.
- 00:17:12.344 --> 00:17:13.846
- Following this with rapt attention.
- 00:17:13.846 --> 00:17:15.614
- We want this conflict to end.
- 00:17:15.614 --> 00:17:17.616
- We're very
- 00:17:17.616 --> 00:17:20.152
- I've heard enough about iran for a lifetime.
- 00:17:20.152 --> 00:17:22.221
- I will say, but there's promising signs.
- 00:17:22.221 --> 00:17:24.857
- So just breaking
- 00:17:24.857 --> 00:17:26.525
- Now i'm looking at the breaking news ticker.
- 00:17:26.525 --> 00:17:28.093
- Is that netanyahu has said
- 00:17:28.093 --> 00:17:30.362
- Israel is done striking iran for the time being,
- 00:17:30.362 --> 00:17:33.265
- Which is what president trump was saying.
- 00:17:33.265 --> 00:17:34.500
- Stop hitting them.
- 00:17:34.500 --> 00:17:35.400
- And iran says
- 00:17:35.400 --> 00:17:36.502
- They're also halting their strikes against israel.
- 00:17:36.502 --> 00:17:39.438
- They do say they will resume if there are more strikes
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- In southern lebanon.
- 00:17:42.007 --> 00:17:43.208
- That's been,
- 00:17:43.208 --> 00:17:44.309
- Of course, the source of constant tension there.
- 00:17:44.309 --> 00:17:46.745
- It's basically the second front of this war,
- 00:17:46.745 --> 00:17:48.747
- Arguably the main one.
- 00:17:48.747 --> 00:17:50.048
- I think more people have died in lebanon
- 00:17:50.048 --> 00:17:51.550
- At this point than have died in iran.
- 00:17:51.550 --> 00:17:53.685
- It's an important distinction. yeah.
- 00:17:53.685 --> 00:17:55.621
- And by the way,
- 00:17:55.621 --> 00:17:56.588
- There was a report over the weekend
- 00:17:56.588 --> 00:17:58.056
- And this is something i'm looking at,
- 00:17:58.056 --> 00:18:01.059
- But it was
- 00:18:01.360 --> 00:18:02.561
- Reported the new york times that the trump admin is seeing
- 00:18:02.561 --> 00:18:05.564
- Increasing threat of espionage from israel over
- 00:18:05.564 --> 00:18:09.001
- The iran deal.
- 00:18:09.001 --> 00:18:09.635
- So as trump is pushing
- 00:18:09.635 --> 00:18:11.270
- More and more for peace, israel wants to sort of,
- 00:18:11.270 --> 00:18:14.806
- I guess, finish the finish the regime off in iran,
- 00:18:14.806 --> 00:18:18.677
- There is increased concern that there might be
- 00:18:19.645 --> 00:18:22.381
- Some espionage going on from israel side.
- 00:18:22.381 --> 00:18:24.283
- Now, let me just be clear.
- 00:18:24.283 --> 00:18:26.084
- We've known this.
- 00:18:26.084 --> 00:18:27.219
- It happens both ways.
- 00:18:27.219 --> 00:18:28.654
- The united states spies on allies as well as foes.
- 00:18:28.654 --> 00:18:31.990
- This is, a constant thing.
- 00:18:31.990 --> 00:18:33.992
- But when you see it ramp
- 00:18:33.992 --> 00:18:35.194
- Up, when our objectives seem to be divergent more and more.
- 00:18:35.194 --> 00:18:39.364
- So that shows just how much space is gathering
- 00:18:39.364 --> 00:18:42.568
- Between bibi and president trump here.
- 00:18:42.568 --> 00:18:44.803
- It's very clear.
- 00:18:44.803 --> 00:18:45.938
- It just it confirms a few things.
- 00:18:45.938 --> 00:18:47.539
- First, it just it confirms the lie.
- 00:18:47.539 --> 00:18:49.408
- President trump is not
- 00:18:49.408 --> 00:18:51.577
- Puppet.
- 00:18:51.810 --> 00:18:52.678
- He's not this guy who just obeys him.
- 00:18:52.678 --> 00:18:54.446
- And i think they have differences
- 00:18:54.446 --> 00:18:55.814
- And there's friction between them.
- 00:18:55.814 --> 00:18:57.482
- This breaking news now it also it affirms
- 00:18:57.482 --> 00:19:00.419
- Frankly what we've warned about
- 00:19:00.419 --> 00:19:02.120
- Which is it's easier to get in conflicts than to get out.
- 00:19:02.120 --> 00:19:04.122
- We've seen this struggle go back and forth,
- 00:19:04.122 --> 00:19:06.425
- But it also shows that president trump,
- 00:19:06.425 --> 00:19:09.194
- I think, is a he's very earnest
- 00:19:09.194 --> 00:19:10.629
- About wanting to achieve a durable, long term peace.
- 00:19:10.629 --> 00:19:13.398
- I think he went into this conflict thinking,
- 00:19:13.398 --> 00:19:16.368
- I want to be the one who finally ends this
- 00:19:16.368 --> 00:19:19.004
- Cancer that's been going for nearly half a century now.
- 00:19:19.004 --> 00:19:22.007
- Yeah.
- 00:19:22.007 --> 00:19:22.541
- And i mean, listen,
- 00:19:22.541 --> 00:19:23.508
- President trump went off on bibi netanyahu.
- 00:19:23.508 --> 00:19:26.144
- They had that very stern call where he said, knock it off,
- 00:19:26.144 --> 00:19:29.581
- Stop the strikes. i want peace.
- 00:19:29.581 --> 00:19:31.350
- Let's get this thing over the finish line.
- 00:19:31.350 --> 00:19:33.685
- To blake's point,
- 00:19:34.119 --> 00:19:35.520
- To all the people that were saying
- 00:19:35.520 --> 00:19:36.989
- That trump is just bibi's puppet,
- 00:19:36.989 --> 00:19:38.957
- You're having a tough time right now
- 00:19:38.957 --> 00:19:40.592
- With the reporting because president trump expletive
- 00:19:40.592 --> 00:19:43.996
- Laced call where president trump told him what to do.
- 00:19:43.996 --> 00:19:47.099
- You see the multiple truth posts
- 00:19:47.099 --> 00:19:48.667
- Where president trump is telling them,
- 00:19:48.667 --> 00:19:50.235
- Hey, knock it off. we want peace.
- 00:19:50.235 --> 00:19:52.137
- Stop throwing missiles at each other,
- 00:19:52.137 --> 00:19:53.639
- Stop lobbing missiles at israel and israel.
- 00:19:53.639 --> 00:19:56.174
- Stop lobbing missiles at iran.
- 00:19:56.174 --> 00:19:58.010
- Okay, you fired off your missiles.
- 00:19:58.010 --> 00:19:59.878
- We want peace.
- 00:19:59.878 --> 00:20:01.013
- I genuinely believe
- 00:20:01.013 --> 00:20:02.648
- Knowing what i know
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- About president trump watching him, observing him
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- Over the years, there's a part of him
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- That is probably a little bit bored of this conflict,
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- Thinks he accomplished his mission, wants to be able
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- To go in and get the nuclear test.
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- By the way, he spoke with,
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- Kristen welker before he walked off about this.
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- And i think he made a fair point, 39 you've called it
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- Nuclear dust. yeah.
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- Will you and would you be open to sending in u.s.
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- Forces to retrieve the nuclear stuff?
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- The official name is highly enriched uranium.
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- The way you do it is if we make a deal.
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- If we make it do that now, we're friends.
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- We'll go together.
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- It'll be our equipment.
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- We'll take it out and destroy it.
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- Whether it's on site or whether we take it off site.
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- If we don't make a deal, then
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- We're going to take them out militarily, very harshly,
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- And we'll wait till we do that before we go.
- 00:20:50.562 --> 00:20:53.932
- President is making his intentions very clear.
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- He's saying, take the deal. it's a good deal.
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- You guys will get some more money into your coffers,
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- About $500 million a day.
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- We'll ease sanctions as you make
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- Step by step incremental progress.
- 00:21:04.943 --> 00:21:07.446
- And here's israel saying, listen, we've still got them
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- Funding lebanon.
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- And by the way, i just want to say
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- Israel has a valid point.
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- Even raheem kassam said this.
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- Like,
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- If you're striking israel,
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- Israel has a right to defend itself and you've got a big
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- Hezbollah problem in the south of lebanon.
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- And just to be clear, i mean, iran has denied
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- That it is backing hezbollah.
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- For years, everybody knew it was not true,
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- But they've denied it.
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- They should be technically separate entities.
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- But iran wants to include hezbollah in the potential
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- Peace peace deal here, which
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- That kind of gives up the code.
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- It gives up the fact that israel, iran is sponsoring
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- Terror cells throughout that region.
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- So israel has a point.
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- But the bottom line is president trump is pushing for
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- Peace, is the peace through strength, president.
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- And all the data points that we're seeing right now
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- Only affirms the fact that he's not being led and dog
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- Walked into anything.
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- He's leading this charge.
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- He is setting the terms.
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- And that's important.
- 00:22:02.567 --> 00:22:03.635
- The big picture thing, like we talk to young people
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- On the show,
- 00:22:06.238 --> 00:22:07.305
- We always ask them, how do people feel about iran?
- 00:22:07.305 --> 00:22:08.940
- We know they don't like it.
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- We know it's a big struggle.
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- We know this is the most the most difficult thing.
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- That's the muslim coalition.
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- Yeah. and it's a challenge.
- 00:22:16.248 --> 00:22:18.216
- Now, you can react to this in two ways.
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- You can decide to complain this is not what you wanted.
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- And you can crash out and say it's all over
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- Or i'll be frank, you can do it.
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- Charlie would do.
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- And we know that charlie would have argued
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- Against this intervention.
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- But we know that we also want america to win,
- 00:22:32.798 --> 00:22:36.601
- And we want america to succeed, and we want president
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- Trump to succeed in his objective.
- 00:22:40.405 --> 00:22:41.773
- President trump wants to end what has been a half century
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- Long canker sore on american foreign policy.
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- He thinks i'm a dealmaker.
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- I can strike challenging deals.
- 00:22:51.783 --> 00:22:54.119
- The abraham accords were tough deals.
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- This is a tough deal.
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- I can be the one who, as tough as it is,
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- Finally gets this resolved.
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- So there's not
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- A future american president who's trying to resolve this,
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- And we want him to succeed at that period,
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- Yeah,
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- You we got to root for america here.
- 00:23:09.601 --> 00:23:11.903
- And we had to say it again, democrats are unacceptable.
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- What they will do to this
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- Country if given power or if they take power,
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- Will be catastrophic for now and for the future.
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- We have to stop it.
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