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Charlie Kirk Today | Rob Henderson: June 02, 2026 | Charlie Kirk Today | June 2, 2026

We're going to get
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Into the delaney hall fiasco, which is another mess
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That the left is trying to stir up around ice.
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And their antics protest.
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They think they're going
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To get the big roi that they got out of minnesota.
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I'm not so sure on this one here to help us unpack this
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Ordeal are two, frontlines tp, usa frontlines journalist.
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That's gabriel victor and bo alford.
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Welcome back to the show, gentlemen.
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You guys, we're on the ground
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Covering the protests and the mayhem.
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From wednesday through saturday.
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My goodness, you guys are brave.
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First of all, thank you for doing it.
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Bo, let's just start with you.
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Why did this happen?
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Why did this even pop off in the first place?
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And what did you see on the ground?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Their reasoning was due to inhumane conditions.
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But as dhs is reporting today,
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There are no inhumane conditions.
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They were even saying that these prisoners are getting
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Better health care than they've received in years.
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Probably.
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This truly is just an excuse to riot.
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I wouldn't even call these people protesters
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Or agitators or leftists.
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These are people that
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Truly just want to burn down the country and start over.
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Yeah, okay.
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What do you see?
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On the ground there?
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Yeah, i saw mayhem.
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That was probably at least on, on friday night.
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And also a lot of videos that have been coming out since
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That was like the closest thing that i have ever seen
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That's as close to war, you know, like it was a war
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Zone out there.
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It was lawlessness.
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These these protesters, they were just rioting.
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They were,
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They were trying to find any reason to be mad at anyone.
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You know, they attacked reporters,
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As a lot of people have seen.
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And, you know, these these people have just
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Had madness, be the forefront of their, their movement.
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Yeah.
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So apparently this whole thing started with, a hunger strike
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That was embarked upon by the detainees at delaney hall.
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A reminder these are criminals.
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They broke into our country. they don't belong here.
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A lot of them are violent.
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A lot of them are actual sort of what
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The left would define as criminals.
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I defend define all of them as criminals
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Because they broke into our country
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And we don't want them here. but.
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And by the way, you should pull up
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Those details on the, the the white pill on how,
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Oh, well, average time in country
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That most of these detainees have been here.
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But anyways, the dhs published,
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A menu of food that they're getting served
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Oatmeal, pancakes, scrambled eggs, grilled potatoes,
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Chicken, breakfast meat,
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Cream of rice, dry cereal, milk, coffee.
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For lunch. they eat better than i do.
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Chicken leg, quarter turkey, stir fry.
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Beef and bean burrito.
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Vegetarian beans.
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They even have a vegetarian option
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For a bunch of mostly hispanics. it's interesting.
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Chicken fajita meat with the tortilla.
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Spanish rice video with meat sauce, chicken
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Fried steak, fortified sugar free tea, dinner.
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Jambalaya.
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Meat and vegetable stew.
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Tuna salad, salisbury patty with gravy, enchilada
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Casserole, chili mac, potato wedges mixed vegetables.
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Fortified sugar free beverage.
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All right.
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So and they're getting medical care
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And they're getting,
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A bed showers. all this up
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Yet they have the gall to go on a hunger strike.
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So then all the activists from all over the country
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Come over.
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And by the way, this is not like that widespread.
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They want you to think that
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This is like the entire democrat base
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Is like protesting and going on ships here.
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Now, these are like antifa guys.
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And the thing that concerned me
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With looking at some of the videos,
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And i want to know if you guys saw this as well,
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Was they had gas masks.
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They had really well equipped, almost tactical gear.
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That had to have cost tens and tens of thousands of dollars.
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What did you guys see
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Just as far as an organizational
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And sophistication level on the ground, bo or gab?
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I don't know who's who wants to take this sort of.
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Go ahead, bo, i'll start.
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It's a very good point that you bring up,
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Because nick shorter even reported this, that
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When people were donating, they weren't asking for water
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Or food.
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They were asking for rioting material.
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They were getting these masks shipped over to them.
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And everyone on the ground had
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These masks, had goggles on
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Because they were prepared for war.
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These weren't people.
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There were needing food for extra time.
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These were simply people
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That were prepared for war with our country.
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Yeah.
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Gabe, did you see the same?
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I mean,
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I mean, these are sophisticated ops that are being run,
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And then the media covers them like
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It's just a bunch of concerned citizen
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Really upset about the illegals held at delaney hall.
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Yeah.
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No, i think that these people are definitely prepared
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To go out there and be fighting, be violent.
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I mean, you know, you could attribute it a bit to
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Probably our education system at some point.
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You know, these people think that they are
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Like the founding fathers.
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You know,
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They think that they are fighting
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For something greater than them,
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Which, you know, they're completely misguided.
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You can see in the videos,
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All these people are
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Basically fighting to protect criminals firstly,
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But secondly, they are, you know, attacking, agents,
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You know, people who work for this country
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Who are just trying to keep, the community safer
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And that they believe that they are all, you know,
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Evil, nazi types according to them, you know,
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So, blake, you had an insight over the weekend,
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Actually retweeted blake.
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I do that often, actually. it's not like a rarity, but,
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On on the
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Average duration of how long these illegal.
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Oh, it's it's it's it's
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One of the reasons they're so upset right now.
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Yeah. no, that's a big part of it.
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So this is i believe
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The washington post was just analyzing the average,
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The median number of days that a person getting removed
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From the united states had been in the united states
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And for a very long time,
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Including even in president trump's first term,
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The average was a person had been in the
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On average in the u.s a few days, a few weeks,
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So that mostly captures people
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Who cross the border, get caught, get sent back out.
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That's the average deported person.
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Now we've crashed deport, border crossings down so much
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And we're still sending people out.
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So the average has gone up
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From a few dozen days to over a thousand days.
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Yeah.
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Is the median number of days someone has been in the united
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States before.
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It's like three, which means it's about three years.
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And so
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The typical person getting sent out
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Is someone who's been in the united states a long time,
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When previously it was widely known,
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If you could get into the united states,
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Get past the first wave of defense,
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Sanctuary cities, ice
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Priorities, and all these other things
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Would conspire to basically mean you'd never get sent home.
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And that's finally getting broken up
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By this administration.
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This is why i think they're so upset.
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And but like, i can't get over the fact that
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If there are signal chats being, exposed right now,
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I am being told from sources at dhs and treasury
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These are being sussed out.
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So just be patient.
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And there are arrests being made.
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There's been threats on the lives of ice officers.
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Mikey, cheryl is defending this.
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The politicians are getting behind this lawlessness.
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It's an absolute failure of leadership
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From new jersey government officials.
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And it's shameless
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Because these people
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Are absolute agents of chaos, agents of violence,
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And they're going to war with federal law enforcement.
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Am i am i mischaracterized this from what you guys saw?
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No, not at all.
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And what's the posture to to, of the state that you can
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You can tell on the ground 30s, gab
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I mean, the, the state of
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Just the area in general in new jersey.
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It's. yeah.
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I mean, you know, around, where the protests
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Were happening or the riots were happening.
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A lot of the people were,
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Were seem to be in support of these protests.
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You know,
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You would talk to other people outside of it
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And they want this stuff to happen.
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So it seems like it's all complete chaos.
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I mean, you know, blue state.
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So i don't know if you can expect anything else.
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It's so depressing.
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I mean,
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How how how anybody could support
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Such lawlessness and such chaos.
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But. alfred.
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Gabriel.
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Victor,
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Thank you so much
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For covering it on the ground and doing it on behalf of
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De frontlines. we have your back.
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Thank you for your courage. god bless you both.
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Thank you. and thank you guys.
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Thank you. and thank you guys.
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All right.
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So we have to do it.
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I was hoping it wasn't going to get to this bad.
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I was hoping we weren't going to have to do this. blake.
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But it's june, and unfortunately,
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June has been co-opted by people that i disagree with.
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Is the month of the seven
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Deadly of one of the seven deadly sins?
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It's a month that's turned into,
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Like, celebration of degeneracy.
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Okay, if you want to go
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Do your thing in private and not involve me or my kids
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Or my country and just leave me alone,
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I'm not going to cause you a problem.
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I'm not going to say anything, i don't care, okay?
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Genuinely, what you do is what you do.
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What i do is what i do.
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I just don't want to have it stuffed down my in my face
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And down my throat.
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Okay, so here's
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Good morning america opening their segment today.
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This comes by way of the media research. council.
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We they flagged it.
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So it's got their logo on it.
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Hat tip to them.
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They started off with gay salsa dancing on disney owned abc.
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Good morning america sat 38 zero.
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Meanwhile,
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The mlb is just gone full,
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Full pride.
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You can just throw a smattering of these images up.
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It really breaks my heart because i'm
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A huge baseball fan.
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And they don't need to. okay.
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You got the the the the flag, the
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The rainbow flag incorporated into the mlb logo.
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The dodgers are doing it minor league baseball is doing it.
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The minnesota twins.
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Which note you nobody's surprised by,
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And then you've got, like, a bunch of the football teams
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Going on on social media.
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The eagles, the buffalo bills, the dolphins,
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The washington commanders, washington redskins.
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What is this, the baltimore ravens?
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I have checked i have a good i have good news.
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I have checked
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The texas rangers have still never done a pride night.
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Every year people flip out and they say
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They're the only mlb team without one.
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And i just checked and i don't see one
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On the schedule for this year.
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So listen,
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Stay that this is how you lose a country when you start
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Celebrating the wrong things, when you start lifting up
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As the ideal something that's outside of god's design.
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Okay.
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But again, i'm a bit libertarian on this in general.
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If you keep it to yourselves, i'm not going to.
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This is a free country.
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I don't think it's right.
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I don't i actually don't okay.
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Keep it to yourselves.
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I'm not going to say anything
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When you start promoting it everywhere
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And you trying to propagandize me and my children,
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I'm going to have an issue.
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I'm sick of being co-opted.
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Why is it a whole month?
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My goodness, it doesn't need to be a whole month.
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That's where you know, it is a total op
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From the beginning, a whole month
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Dedicated to just like weakness and feminized men.
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I'm not into it.
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Like, save me from myself here.
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I mean, it's just it's become,
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I just like i go back to the fact
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Pride is one of the seven deadly sins.
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I think you can tell the fact
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That it started as it started as gay pride,
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But it's now
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Just become generalized pride, and it's the way
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They eagerly add every new thing to it.
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And so it's not even specifically about being gay.
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It's it's almost just if you lgbtq, lgbt
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And you know to spirit
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And missing and murdered, you know what was a made up
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By whatever the thing from canada,
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It's really you can add any identity to it
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Almost as long as it's
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Against the setup that we know has worked
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For thousands of years to keep civilization going.
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So and people respond to this,
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We have people desperately trying to create new fake
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Sexual orientations for themselves.
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As the people who said they were supposed
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Sexuales or whatever, but people will make things up.
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And if you if you make it desirable to be
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A weirdo, if you make it desirable to be
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Not normal,
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People are going to pursue that,
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And you'll have a fertility rate at 1.1
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And your society is going to disintegrate. yeah.
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And here's the thing.
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I, i'm i'm just so sick of it.
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I'm just so i'm exhausted by it.
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Just stop.
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You do not need a month for this garbage.
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And it's a reminder, sadly,
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That we've made a lot of strides against pride.
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But, i mean, they're not going away.
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And so we've got to keep the pressure up.
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And that's why i decided we should
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Devote a segment to this, because look at this is mlb.
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It's as american as apple pie and hot dogs and hamburger.
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And they're going all in.
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And that makes me truly, truly remorseful
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For the state of our country because it's bad for everybody.
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You don't want to celebrate this.
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You want to celebrate a nuclear family.
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You want to celebrate couples
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Getting married, buying homes, having kids.
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You don't want to celebrate all the
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The exceptions to the rule.
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When did we become a country that only celebrates
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The exceptions to the rule?
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And i get like this when it when it comes to immigration,
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How many times have you had the proud and noble
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Immigrant rising from the bottom story?
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Why don't we ever tell
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The story about an american kid who was born in,
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You know, in a single family home
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That did it all the right things, went to school,
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Got a good job, married his wife, had some kids.
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Why don't we celebrate that story?
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Because that's actually what we're trying to create,
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You know?
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And i'm reminded of the fact that charlie said
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If he was ever in political office,
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What he would do is devote himself
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To the restoration of the american family.
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And here we have a whole month that basically is working
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Against it. and you can call me a bigot.
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You can call me close minded, i don't care.
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It works against god's design, the beautiful design,
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The founding foundational elements, the building blocks
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Of a successful society.
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And i reject it wholeheartedly.
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You should too.
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We'll be right back with rob henderson.
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We'll be right back with rob henderson.
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We are
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Just getting rob henderson set up and ready to go.
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But let me set the premise of this
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And why we've invited rob back on.
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And by the way, rob was one of charlie's last long for me.
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I really, really smart guy.
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I interviewed him
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A week before.
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I think it hadn't even come out.
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Yeah, when everything happened.
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I think that's right. rob, welcome back to the show.
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It's good to see you, my friend.
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And thanks for making the time.
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You are one of the most prolific
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Followed substack writers, rob henderson's newsletter.
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So everybody check that out.
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Author of troubled, rob, i wanted to have you on
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Because there's been a series
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Of, i would call them great debates on ex
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On social media about a couple of things revolving around,
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Conservative versus liberal
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Parenting for fertility rates.
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There's been the gender gap in the higher education.
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How many getting degrees.
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And it's just it's now i think the number is
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Now at 62% of degrees are awarded to women.
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And we've had authors like helen anderson on the show
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Who's talked about this and talked
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About the great feminization of culture.
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And so there's really limitless places
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We could start to to have this discussion.
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But the macro data is emerging, and it feels like
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We're still talking and raging against the patriarchy.
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But it's like that, that era is gone.
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It seems like, you know, here, i'll just start
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With one, one graph, rob, and then i'll give it to you.
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More parents among conservatives, this is a
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Wild one.
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71% of conservatives are having a child
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Versus 47% of liberals.
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There's the graph right there.
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So that's that's quite interesting.
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Tell us your thoughts on all of these big debates
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That we're having now.
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They're merging on x.
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Yeah.
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Well, it's fascinating that because if you go back
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To the beginning of when those, yeah, yeah,
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When those charts were.
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Yeah. in the 1980s. right.
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So for women, you know, they're almost identical 65%
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For conservatives versus 60% for liberal women.
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And then the this is just grown over time.
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You know, people talk about polarization
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And how we're growing further apart along political lines.
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I think this is just
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More evidence of that, that it's not just,
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In terms of opinion.
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Now where we're becoming polarized,
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But in terms of action, family formation,
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Marriage, child rearing.
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And, you know, you're you're completely right.
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I think that, increasingly, you have to,
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Set out to make a plan to have a family.
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I think in the past,
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Because we had these
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Cultural guardrails in place,
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You had this kind of life script, that was widely
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Known and taught, throughout the culture,
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Parenting, schools, families and so on that this is kind
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Of the sequence of your life.
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You go to school, you mean you go to college,
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You get a job, and then you kind of find
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A partner, settle down and have some kids,
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And it's becoming harder.
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Our culture doesn't really cultivate that anymore.
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It doesn't really, directly or indirectly tell young people
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This is kind of what,
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You know, what what the milestones of life are.
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And you have to try really hard.
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Now, i've spoken with very smart guys,
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And most of my friends are guys and they're educated,
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They're smart,
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They're successful
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In their careers, and they tell me
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That they literally have to treat it
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As a second job to find a suitable partner.
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Where they put in,
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You know, they,
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They basically put their
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Careers temporarily on pause to prioritize.
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How do i find a suitable spouse?
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How do i screen for someone who shares the same values
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As me, and settle down and have a relationship
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And then get married and then have kids?
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You didn't used to have to do that.
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You know, there was the
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The mechanisms were already in place
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Where young people
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Would come together and find a spouse organically.
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And, you know, not many people are in a position
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To put in that much effort to finding someone.
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And it shouldn't be this hard.
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This is one of the problems in our culture.
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It shouldn't be this hard to find someone.
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This used to be kind of a natural course,
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But the, you know, the the duration between now
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And that point where things start
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To become more self-correcting, you know,
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Things might look kind of ugly in the interim.
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Everything in culture basically will get better
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If you if everybody's having kids,
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You'll start
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Because when you have kids,
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You think about the safety of your park,
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You think about the safety of your school.
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You think about the kind of content they're consuming.
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But if you're not,
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You completely disconnected from that.
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You're selfishly sort of assuming your own viewpoint
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In every every different context of society.
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And the the parents are left
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Holding the bag
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Trying to, like, carve out a safe and productive and
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Edifying existence for their children
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In an increasingly more hostile environment.
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So it just the odds just continue stacking against it.
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So, again, i don't know exactly if there's a finale
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Or a conclusion we can reach here, but it the
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The data, let alone it's concerning, i guess.
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Yeah.
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No, no, i
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You you're saying it reminds me i had this conversation
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And this was, this was a married couple,
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Their middle aged couple. they chose not to have kids.
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And you mentioned spencer pratt earlier.
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They live in california.
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And they were telling me how their neighborhood has changed.
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Where now, you know, when they put their garbage
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Bins out at curbside, you know, they'll,
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They'll have, like, drug addicts and weirdos
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Sort of rifling through their trash now.
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And they said this wasn't happening 6 or 7 years ago.
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And i asked, you know, do you call the cops?
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Like, what do you do when you see
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People rifling through your trash?
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And they say, oh, it's no big deal.
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They're not hurting anyone.
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You know, maybe they could find something
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If they need it, that's fine.
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And then i asked them,
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What if you guys had kids at home,
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Would you guys still be okay with it?
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And then the tune changed. they said, well, that's different.
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You know, i would be concerned for the kid and so on.
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But then i asked,
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There are probably kids in that neighborhood,
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You know, like you two don't have kids,
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But there may be
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And you know,
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And like you're saying, it gets you to start thinking
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In terms of a community, in terms of a society,
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In terms of your neighbors and so on,
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Instead of just selfishly, well, we're two adults and,
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You know, if something bad happens, it's fine.
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And yeah, it's,
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I think that that sort of turning your attention outward
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Instead of this selfish looking inward of, well,
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How is this affecting me directly?
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Or should i
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How much do i personally need to care
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Versus, you know,
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The next generation or, you know,
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At least your neighbors and those around you?
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Rob, i would be remiss if we didn't shout out,
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Of course, your substack, rob henderson's newsletter.
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It's one of the most successful substack.
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So i, i was just open it
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And it says it is number one rising in science.
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So you've been crushing it very well.
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I encourage people to check it out.
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And this is a little off topic, but i see it.
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If you could just give a minute here
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Because the question fascinates me.
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Your most recent post
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Is why some smart people never get anywhere.
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Why do some smart people never get anywhere?
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Yeah.
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Well, you know, it's,
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The main point of that post was i was elaborating
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On the personality trait of conscientiousness,
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Which is, you know,
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So simplified somewhat,
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But basically the willingness to work hard
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And to be diligent and orderly and organized in your life.
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And, look, you can have ten people who have high
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Iq, is very smart, very academically inclined,
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And you will have incredibly wide variation.
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Some of those ten people will be successful
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And some of them will be unsuccessful.
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They're all smart. what explains this?
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And a good portion of this is are you conscientious?
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Do you work hard?
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Do you prioritize, do you sacrifice?
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And so this this willingness to exert effort,
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Even if you aren't especially smart,
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I know people who aren't, you know, you know,
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They don't like classroom kind of learning.
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They're not, bookish people, but they work really hard
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And they earn a lot of money, and they're very successful.
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And so the whole point of that was like, yeah,
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I think we especially smart people
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Overvalue smarts and undervalue the importance of work ethic.
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That is an answer.
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Charlie would certainly love.
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Yeah.
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Because, you know, you can't choose
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How smart you are necessarily.
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You're you're raw horsepower.
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Iq is something you're born with.
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Maybe you cultivate somewhat, but you can choose two things.
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You can choose to work harder than everybody else,
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And you could choose to be courageous.
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Those are choices that are up to every individual.
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And that's ultimately
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A really freeing concept to internalize.
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Rob henderson, thank you so much.
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Thank you
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For staying a little bit longer for a podcast exclusive here.
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Yeah. fascinating conversation.
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I don't think we've we've cracked the nut completely, but
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All of culture would be better
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If more people got married and had kids.
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Just the bottom line.
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It's america.
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You have the freedom to do it or not do it.
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But man,
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I hope we can start celebrating it more and get back to some,
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An era where we didn't have a war of the sexes at least.
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So anyways, check out his his newsletter and substack.
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Congratulations on all the success, robin.
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Thanks for joining us. thanks, andrew. thanks, blake.
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