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Charlie Kirk Today | Sarah J. Fields: June 12, 2026 | Charlie Kirk Today | June 12, 2026
- I want to start today
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- On this bombshell new report from the new york times.
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- It's what it's probably the second such bombshell
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- That has come from maggie haberman
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- And jonathan swan of the new york times.
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- They are publishing this as part of a sort of drip
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- Feed promotion of their new book.
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- I will tell you,
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- I got a lot of qualms with the new york times,
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- As any conservative would, but maggie haberman
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- And jonathan swan have done these pieces before,
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- And there has been very
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- Little pushback, correction, anything.
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- They're pretty darn good reporters.
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- Okay. i have to say, you may not agree with them.
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- You may not like them.
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- They may be on the enemies
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- Team, if you will, politically speaking,
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- But they come up with the goods and they tend to be
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- Fairly accurate. okay.
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- So what is reported in this thing?
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- I mean, i was wrapped
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- The whole time i was reading this.
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- My mind was going back to the summer,
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- The spring and summer of 2025.
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- That was a time that i walked through this whole saga
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- With charlie.
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- As we were looking at the way that the epstein files, if you
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- Will, were being rolled out.
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- Now, if you listen to blake, who's typically,
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- On this show with me, nothing really to see here.
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- He's he's a skeptic.
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- He's a skeptic
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- That there is a there there in the first place.
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- What this piece details
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- Is the inner workings of the white house
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- Top brass to try and figure out how to deal with it.
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- And what you
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- See is this fascinating mosaic
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- Unfold in the situation room.
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- We're back in the situation room.
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- Remember, this is their
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- Their last piece was when bibi netanyahu came over to pitch
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- Trump on the iran strikes inside the situation room.
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- Well, we're back there.
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- And they were having meetings, including siouxsie
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- Wiles, taylor bhutto, which one of her
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- Deputy chief of staff's, james blair, j.d.
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- Vance, todd blanch, pam bondi,
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- All of these players in the trump white house.
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- And what you see is a specter them of trying
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- To understand what to do with the epstein files.
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- And it ranges from vice president j.d.
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- Vance saying, let's get everything out there asap.
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- As quickly as we can to.
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- Here are some more moderate options,
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- And it becomes this escalating story
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- About how to then release more stuff.
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- How what do we do with glenn maxwell? what do we do?
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- All this stuff?
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- Now, i tend
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- To be somewhat persuaded by some of blake's skepticism.
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- Is there a there there?
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- I think there's a lot of there, there.
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- We have,
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- You have bill gates today testifying before the house
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- Committee chaired by james comer, oversight,
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- Trying to explain and help them with that investigation.
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- He says that, he didn't do anything wrong.
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- His affairs are not to be looked at.
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- Nothing there.
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- But this is an ongoing saga, because
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- And this is the big because there is energy
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- Within the trump coalition
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- To see maximum trans maximum transparency with this.
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- Jd vance understood that very early on.
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- I'm pretty sure charlie had something to do with that.
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- Charlie and i talked about this a lot, that the base wanted
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- The trump 2.0 to be different
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- In every single way when it came to government
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- Accountability and transparency.
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- And this article details that, you know, who else wanted
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- Maximum transparency was bongino.
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- Bongino is a character in this.
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- You might remember some of the drama
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- That came out, at different points
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- Of his tenure as deputy director of the fbi.
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- He wanted to
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- Have maximum transparency,
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- But there was other people that didn't seem as convinced
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- That everything should be released.
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- And that ultimately became
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- A tactical misstep here when it came to this.
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- So let me just summarize this for you.
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- So this is part, again,
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- Maggie haberman and jonathan swan detail intense
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- Internal panic at the trump white house in the summer 2025.
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- And it's part of their book
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- That's going to come out, regime change inside
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- The imperial presidency of donald trump.
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- I don't love the title.
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- A doj fbi memo released around july 7th, 2025 stated
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- There was no client list of powerful men
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- Linked to the epstein procuring underage girls.
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- It aimed to quell speculation, but instead
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- It sparked massive backlash.
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- And that is something that we have been living through.
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- And let me make this very clear for the audience.
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- When i talk to turning point students,
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- When i go out and i talk to regular voters,
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- We go to our local, chase the chase the vote
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- Super chase events with just everyday americans base voters.
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- Guess what they care about?
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- They want to see accountability with epstein.
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- They want to see big, rich,
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- Powerful elites be held accountable.
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- Some have been held accountable
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- In the court of public opinion.
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- Some have been driven out of job.
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- Some have had to resign.
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- But they want to see actual
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- Lawsuits.
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- They want to see charges, indictments.
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- And so the doj memo comes out trying to quell all of this.
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- Top advisers held multiple high stakes meetings, often
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- In the situation room, to manage
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- The political fallout, debate, transparency, gestures like in
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- Interviewing glenn maxwell, petitioning to get grand jury,
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- Unsealed
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- Grand jury, investigation unsealed.
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- It ended up blowing up in everybody's faces
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- This insight into who was doing what
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- And when and how it was handled is a fascinating one.
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- It's a pr nightmare, obviously, for the trump administration.
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- Now, do i believe that there is a actual client list?
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- I don't actually believe that.
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- But one thing that i can say is there was video
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- In many of epstein's locations
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- In his houses and his different properties.
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- What happened to that?
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- But i do believe that president trump,
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- There's nothing that implicates him directly.
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- Maybe some embarrassing moments, but that's fine.
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- Nothing he hasn't dealt with before.
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- But i do not think that the president, if the
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- If joe biden and the biden administration
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- Would have had something
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- On president trump, it would have been released
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- During the biden administration.
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- You bet your bottom dollar. okay.
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- This became a political football
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- That the democrats jumped on after the maga
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- Coalition was upset about the way it was handled.
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- I recommend everybody give this a read.
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- It's a very fascinating article,
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- And i believe some people come out looking really good.
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- Some people come out looking like
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- They don't understand the base.
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- And that is the that is the key insight that
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- This strained relationships within the the admin.
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- There was trouble trying to navigate it with the public.
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- But the main thing that i want to say is that
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- There is some there there, but it's probably
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- Not everything that the base wants.
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- Transparency, honesty, it all would have been the best
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- Policy here.
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- Some were early, some found out the hard way.
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- Some were early, some found out the hard way.
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- So i want to bring in now sarah fields.
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- She's a mother. she's an investigative journalist.
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- She's a state delegate. she's a precinct chair.
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- She is grass roots,
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- Which is our love language here on the charlie kirk show.
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- Sarah, thank you so much for joining the show.
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- Thank you.
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- Thank you for having me.
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- Yeah.
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- So you have been covering this like nobody else.
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- And everybody should go follow you on.
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- You have a
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- Hundreds of thousands of followers already,
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- And you're doing incredible work here.
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- And it occurred to me, you and i spoke
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- Briefly on the phone yesterday.
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- It occurred to me that what i am watching in the reaction,
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- Especially from carmelo's supporters, is
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- That it's like a whole set of different facts.
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- They are reacting to a case
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- Into a set of circumstances that didn't happen.
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- So why don't we just start with what did happen,
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- And then we'll get into the reaction.
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- Put brass tacks.
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- You were in the courtroom.
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- You heard witness testimony. you saw video.
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- What happened in the murder of,
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- Of this poor young kid in the metcalf family?
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- I've just. my heart goes out to them. what really happened?
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- What really happened to the bottom line is that
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- Carmelo was supposed to be warming up on the track.
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- He then walked away while the rest of his,
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- While while
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- The rest of his teammates and the rest of the students
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- Stayed on the stayed on the track.
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- He walked over to the memorial tent.
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- He sat down.
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- And then when he was asked to leave,
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- Because austin metcalf had been literally text,
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- By his coach that morning and told that he wanted him
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- To take a leadership role and to make him proud.
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- And all of my reporting includes the details of exactly
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- What was said.
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- If you want to ever, like, go back and look. yes.
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- But he had been instructed before that
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- No one under everyone under the tent is supposed to be
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- Part of the team. needs to be.
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- No one else needs to be underneath that tent.
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- And it was unusual for them, for anyone else
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- That was not part of the team
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- To come sit underneath the tent.
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- It was part of their policy.
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- It was part of what the coach coach's instructions were.
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- So, he took the reins on this
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- And said, you know, who is this kid?
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- Why is he under here?
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- And of course, carmelo, you know, said i'm melo
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- And that was it.
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- And they then all chimed in and said, you're not supposed to
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- Be under this tent.
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- You need to, you know, go to where you need to be.
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- And by the way, you know, it wasn't even, you know,
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- The defense is, say, arraigned and all this stuff.
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- And, it was actually determined
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- At one, at one point
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- That it wasn't raining, it was drizzling.
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- And where carmelo sat under the tent was actually
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- Not even completely underneath the coverage of the tent.
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- It was under only half of it.
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- Yeah.
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- So he's sitting in the back there telling him to leave.
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- He refuses to leave austin, then, steps up,
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- A row or two and says you need to leave.
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- And carmelo said, you know, touch me and see what happens.
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- And at this point, his hand is already in the bag,
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- Already in the bag.
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- And he said, you know, you need to leave.
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- And he said,
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- Apparently,
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- According to several witnesses,
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- He then said, punch me and see what happens.
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- Austin said, i'm
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- Not going to fight you at a track meet bro.
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- He then picks him up.
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- I'm sorry, not picks him up, but apparently he
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- He kind of grabs him, and pushes him on the shoulder.
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- And then at that point and according
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- To all the witnesses, it was a slight nudge.
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- It was a slight push if it had been a harder push.
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- I don't know.
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- Carmelo could never have reacted the way he did.
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- He would have fallen backwards.
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- A really good read.
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- It was a yep, it was a nudge and it was an immediate stab.
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- And it was so fast that the one
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- Every single witness that was underneath that tent
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- Could not even see the actual stab.
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- And it wasn't until austin lifted up his shirt and said,
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- He stabbed me.
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- He stabbed me and said, oh my god!
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- Lifted up his shirt and they saw
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- A hole in his chest and the blood running down.
- 00:11:26.876 --> 00:11:29.044
- It wasn't until then
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- That they realized
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- That carmelo had stabbed austin in the heart.
- 00:11:30.913 --> 00:11:33.783
- And then carmelo, then, apparently walked upwards.
- 00:11:33.783 --> 00:11:37.820
- Ran down the bleachers for a very brief amount of time
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- And then slowed down again.
- 00:11:41.190 --> 00:11:43.459
- And apparently it would seem
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- That he was trying to blend in with the crowd at that point.
- 00:11:46.529 --> 00:11:49.532
- And he never left the stadium.
- 00:11:50.132 --> 00:11:52.601
- That is what
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- Happened, according to witness testimony.
- 00:11:53.869 --> 00:11:56.338
- According to all evidence, including the video footage
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- That was shown by frisco isd, there was no attack.
- 00:11:59.108 --> 00:12:02.812
- There was no four minute fight.
- 00:12:02.812 --> 00:12:04.480
- There was no, you know, arguing
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- For long periods of time back and forth.
- 00:12:07.283 --> 00:12:09.952
- It happened so fast that he realized
- 00:12:09.952 --> 00:12:12.221
- What had happened to austin until it was too late.
- 00:12:12.221 --> 00:12:15.391
- So it seems like a very cut and dry
- 00:12:16.158 --> 00:12:19.128
- Case of murder, basically unprovoked,
- 00:12:19.128 --> 00:12:21.597
- Completely nonsensical, preventable.
- 00:12:21.597 --> 00:12:24.967
- Unnecessary.
- 00:12:24.967 --> 00:12:26.268
- I mean, this should have just been a altercation
- 00:12:26.268 --> 00:12:29.238
- At a, you know, high school boys fight.
- 00:12:29.238 --> 00:12:32.575
- And it just it didn't even get to that point.
- 00:12:32.575 --> 00:12:34.243
- And yet austin metcalf lost his life.
- 00:12:34.243 --> 00:12:37.112
- And it's egregious.
- 00:12:37.112 --> 00:12:38.280
- He is now obviously been found guilty.
- 00:12:38.280 --> 00:12:41.016
- And despite all of this, it's still being used
- 00:12:41.016 --> 00:12:45.054
- For this modern american racial drama by bad actors.
- 00:12:45.054 --> 00:12:49.358
- But the wrong facts, the wrong details seem to be coming out
- 00:12:49.358 --> 00:12:53.362
- When you hear people talk.
- 00:12:53.362 --> 00:12:54.463
- Jasmine crockett,
- 00:12:54.463 --> 00:12:55.664
- We'll just use her as a case in point here, her reaction.
- 00:12:55.664 --> 00:12:59.535
- And then let's talk about where
- 00:12:59.535 --> 00:13:00.736
- Some of this disinformation is originating from 29.
- 00:13:00.736 --> 00:13:04.006
- And what we saw with that verdict is the evidence
- 00:13:04.006 --> 00:13:06.842
- Of a broken system.
- 00:13:06.842 --> 00:13:07.810
- A lot of people don't know what it is
- 00:13:07.810 --> 00:13:08.911
- To live as a black person in this country.
- 00:13:08.911 --> 00:13:11.013
- But just like you can give the benefit
- 00:13:11.013 --> 00:13:13.082
- Of the doubt
- 00:13:13.082 --> 00:13:14.049
- To so many police officers when they go out
- 00:13:14.049 --> 00:13:15.684
- And they shoot some black
- 00:13:15.684 --> 00:13:16.752
- Unarmed person, even though they are trained.
- 00:13:16.752 --> 00:13:20.456
- The fact that there was little to no mercy seeing or humanity
- 00:13:20.456 --> 00:13:24.560
- Seeing when this black boy saying that i was scared.
- 00:13:24.560 --> 00:13:28.197
- I should say also, sarah, that the
- 00:13:28.197 --> 00:13:31.267
- The mom and dad are now doing a press tour.
- 00:13:31.267 --> 00:13:33.469
- I don't think they're supporting themselves.
- 00:13:33.469 --> 00:13:35.437
- Well at all.
- 00:13:35.437 --> 00:13:37.106
- But again, i'll just
- 00:13:37.106 --> 00:13:39.541
- I'll play the clip so everybody's aware of it.
- 00:13:39.541 --> 00:13:41.644
- So and then i'll get your reaction.
- 00:13:41.644 --> 00:13:43.279
- Sot 26 my son, it's no murder.
- 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:46.115
- My son didn't intend for anyone.
- 00:13:46.115 --> 00:13:50.953
- My son was defending himself.
- 00:13:51.587 --> 00:13:55.224
- And that's where we were delusional.
- 00:13:56.025 --> 00:13:58.894
- We thought he was going to get a fair shake.
- 00:13:58.894 --> 00:14:00.729
- Everyone actually lied on the stand.
- 00:14:00.729 --> 00:14:02.598
- Everyone.
- 00:14:02.598 --> 00:14:03.899
- All of the witnesses statements were inconsistent.
- 00:14:03.899 --> 00:14:07.136
- All of them. he was convicted
- 00:14:07.136 --> 00:14:10.139
- When he walked out of the gym.
- 00:14:10.139 --> 00:14:12.341
- If you looked at the news all last year,
- 00:14:12.341 --> 00:14:13.676
- He was already convicted.
- 00:14:13.676 --> 00:14:15.144
- If you look at it, it was already done.
- 00:14:15.144 --> 00:14:17.813
- It was no, innocent until proven guilty.
- 00:14:17.813 --> 00:14:20.549
- He was already guilty.
- 00:14:20.549 --> 00:14:21.517
- People on his day
- 00:14:21.517 --> 00:14:23.986
- That were after they still got what they want.
- 00:14:23.986 --> 00:14:27.389
- Yeah. they want. i still want
- 00:14:27.389 --> 00:14:30.292
- You to have a look at my phone.
- 00:14:30.292 --> 00:14:31.327
- People want to date.
- 00:14:31.327 --> 00:14:32.795
- They want.
- 00:14:32.795 --> 00:14:33.295
- I found the dead.
- 00:14:33.295 --> 00:14:34.463
- So, sarah,
- 00:14:34.463 --> 00:14:37.132
- These facts, this.
- 00:14:37.132 --> 00:14:38.834
- They are clear in this case.
- 00:14:38.834 --> 00:14:41.070
- And yet
- 00:14:41.070 --> 00:14:41.603
- It seems like the black community does not.
- 00:14:42.538 --> 00:14:44.573
- Is not getting the same set of facts that we are.
- 00:14:44.573 --> 00:14:46.542
- What's going on here?
- 00:14:46.542 --> 00:14:49.345
- They they know.
- 00:14:49.345 --> 00:14:50.279
- They know the facts.
- 00:14:50.279 --> 00:14:51.380
- And first let me let me talk about jasmine crockett.
- 00:14:51.380 --> 00:14:54.917
- She said unarmed black men.
- 00:14:54.917 --> 00:14:58.020
- Right? first of all, carmela was armed.
- 00:14:58.020 --> 00:15:00.089
- Austin was the one who was not armed.
- 00:15:00.089 --> 00:15:02.424
- Second of all, i watched that, interview
- 00:15:02.424 --> 00:15:05.294
- With with crockett,
- 00:15:05.294 --> 00:15:06.462
- And she was talking about how
- 00:15:06.462 --> 00:15:07.896
- This was just a small multi-tool.
- 00:15:07.896 --> 00:15:10.699
- You know, and it wasn't even a real knife.
- 00:15:10.699 --> 00:15:12.634
- At the end of the day, it was a deadly weapon
- 00:15:12.634 --> 00:15:14.303
- Because it was used to kill austin metcalf.
- 00:15:14.303 --> 00:15:17.940
- Also, what's crazy about this is that the multi-tool
- 00:15:17.940 --> 00:15:20.909
- Rumor has been spread for nearly a year.
- 00:15:20.909 --> 00:15:24.013
- And it just kind of goes to show their mindset
- 00:15:24.013 --> 00:15:28.684
- Because they think that if it's not, a vicious
- 00:15:28.684 --> 00:15:32.054
- Looking weapon, then somehow it's not a weapon.
- 00:15:32.054 --> 00:15:35.290
- But they, you know, if you run somebody over
- 00:15:35.290 --> 00:15:37.693
- With a car, that car becomes a deadly weapon.
- 00:15:37.693 --> 00:15:40.496
- And i just think it's interesting
- 00:15:40.496 --> 00:15:42.331
- That she finally gives
- 00:15:42.331 --> 00:15:43.532
- This interview talking about how it's a small multi-tool.
- 00:15:43.532 --> 00:15:46.135
- But she gave this interview after the facts
- 00:15:46.135 --> 00:15:48.837
- Of the case about the knife had already come out in trial.
- 00:15:48.837 --> 00:15:52.041
- They had already shown a photo.
- 00:15:52.041 --> 00:15:54.309
- The person, the sorry, i can't remember
- 00:15:54.309 --> 00:15:57.312
- What she's called, but she's the person who draws
- 00:15:57.312 --> 00:15:59.915
- The pictures while she's in the trial room.
- 00:15:59.915 --> 00:16:03.018
- She actually drew a very accurate
- 00:16:03.018 --> 00:16:05.587
- Depiction of the knife. the knife was.
- 00:16:05.587 --> 00:16:08.090
- Didn't look anything like a small multi-tool.
- 00:16:08.090 --> 00:16:10.225
- It looked like a hunting knife.
- 00:16:10.225 --> 00:16:12.294
- So the fact that those that that information had already
- 00:16:12.294 --> 00:16:15.531
- Come out
- 00:16:15.531 --> 00:16:16.532
- And jasmine crockett is still being dishonest
- 00:16:16.532 --> 00:16:18.534
- Tells you what their mindset is.
- 00:16:18.534 --> 00:16:19.968
- These people are liars.
- 00:16:19.968 --> 00:16:21.703
- And no, the, the anthony family.
- 00:16:21.703 --> 00:16:25.274
- The parents.
- 00:16:25.274 --> 00:16:26.308
- This is not going well for them
- 00:16:26.308 --> 00:16:27.676
- Because they keep claiming my son's not a murderer.
- 00:16:27.676 --> 00:16:30.412
- They have shown absolutely no remorse and absolutely
- 00:16:30.412 --> 00:16:33.882
- No sympathy for the metcalf family whatsoever.
- 00:16:33.882 --> 00:16:37.019
- They don't care that austin lost his life.
- 00:16:37.019 --> 00:16:39.621
- They just are professional victims.
- 00:16:39.621 --> 00:16:42.057
- And like i said, this is kind of,
- 00:16:42.057 --> 00:16:44.193
- You know, this is backfiring in your face.
- 00:16:44.193 --> 00:16:46.361
- And they're liars.
- 00:16:46.361 --> 00:16:47.796
- Drew. drew anthony is a liar.
- 00:16:47.796 --> 00:16:50.666
- He has literally,
- 00:16:50.666 --> 00:16:53.035
- Assisted
- 00:16:53.302 --> 00:16:54.736
- Some of these activists
- 00:16:54.736 --> 00:16:56.472
- With spreading rumors about people
- 00:16:56.472 --> 00:16:58.507
- In order
- 00:16:58.507 --> 00:16:59.475
- To try and paint themselves in a good light
- 00:16:59.475 --> 00:17:01.376
- And paint the metcalf's as these, well, bullies
- 00:17:01.376 --> 00:17:04.012
- And these horrible, racist people.
- 00:17:04.012 --> 00:17:06.482
- Sarah, can i just tell our
- 00:17:06.482 --> 00:17:08.083
- Audience right now that's that's watching this?
- 00:17:08.083 --> 00:17:11.053
- Please realize that, sarah,
- 00:17:11.653 --> 00:17:13.522
- We have to do this by phone right now,
- 00:17:13.522 --> 00:17:16.024
- Because if we did this by video, there are death
- 00:17:16.024 --> 00:17:19.495
- Threats and doxing threats and all this against sarah
- 00:17:19.495 --> 00:17:21.630
- Because she's been covering the case accurately.
- 00:17:21.630 --> 00:17:24.433
- And there's people that don't like that. yes.
- 00:17:24.433 --> 00:17:26.435
- And so,
- 00:17:26.435 --> 00:17:27.202
- That's why we're doing our phone
- 00:17:27.202 --> 00:17:28.570
- So we don't give away your location right now.
- 00:17:28.570 --> 00:17:30.272
- And i want the audience to understand that.
- 00:17:30.272 --> 00:17:31.974
- Sarah, stay right there.
- 00:17:31.974 --> 00:17:33.675
- More with sarah fields.
- 00:17:33.675 --> 00:17:35.677
- In the next segment,
- 00:17:35.677 --> 00:17:39.999
- In the next segment,
- 00:17:39.999 --> 00:17:45.377
- I sure learn something from this.
- 00:17:46.078 --> 00:17:47.880
- I learned to tell my sons if a white boy
- 00:17:47.880 --> 00:17:51.016
- Do not, i would know white boys.
- 00:17:51.717 --> 00:17:54.186
- Because ain't no law protecting you
- 00:17:54.186 --> 00:17:56.488
- If somebody goes down with them.
- 00:17:56.488 --> 00:17:58.657
- That's what i learn from this case.
- 00:17:58.657 --> 00:18:00.826
- I'ma tell my sons.
- 00:18:00.826 --> 00:18:02.794
- You are you with a white boy walked away.
- 00:18:02.794 --> 00:18:06.465
- Because the law don't protect you.
- 00:18:06.465 --> 00:18:09.601
- I mean, that's that's my takeaway.
- 00:18:09.601 --> 00:18:10.936
- So i guess. yeah. yeah.
- 00:18:10.936 --> 00:18:13.672
- The justice system work,
- 00:18:13.672 --> 00:18:14.873
- Actually, by holding the walk away
- 00:18:14.873 --> 00:18:16.475
- And by holding the murderer accountable.
- 00:18:16.475 --> 00:18:18.377
- Guess what? cardi b learned a lesson.
- 00:18:18.377 --> 00:18:20.045
- You should walk away and not stab somebody.
- 00:18:20.045 --> 00:18:22.080
- You shouldn't murder people.
- 00:18:22.080 --> 00:18:24.816
- Sarah, your reaction?
- 00:18:24.816 --> 00:18:27.653
- If he had been acquitted
- 00:18:27.653 --> 00:18:29.388
- And he had walked away from all of this,
- 00:18:29.388 --> 00:18:32.024
- It would have sent a message across the world, across
- 00:18:32.024 --> 00:18:35.994
- This country, that you can stab
- 00:18:35.994 --> 00:18:39.298
- Someone for pushing you.
- 00:18:39.298 --> 00:18:42.034
- A a you can run into someone in walmart.
- 00:18:42.034 --> 00:18:44.336
- And if you don't like it, then you can stab someone.
- 00:18:44.336 --> 00:18:47.973
- This is the part that's most fascinating to me.
- 00:18:47.973 --> 00:18:50.075
- Sarah is.
- 00:18:50.075 --> 00:18:51.109
- So you saw all the all the, all the evidence,
- 00:18:51.109 --> 00:18:55.214
- All the information, all the witness testimony.
- 00:18:55.214 --> 00:18:57.249
- You saw it.
- 00:18:57.249 --> 00:18:58.317
- You documented it brilliantly on your on your ex.
- 00:18:58.317 --> 00:19:01.420
- And thank you.
- 00:19:01.753 --> 00:19:03.488
- I, i i'm serious that people need to follow
- 00:19:03.488 --> 00:19:06.124
- Sarah on social media, please, because, she did an
- 00:19:06.124 --> 00:19:09.828
- Incredible job.
- 00:19:09.828 --> 00:19:10.896
- Heroes work here and yet and we talked about this
- 00:19:10.896 --> 00:19:13.465
- Briefly on the phone yesterday.
- 00:19:13.465 --> 00:19:14.566
- Sarah, you said a lot of this is getting propagated
- 00:19:14.566 --> 00:19:17.603
- On social media that there's a
- 00:19:17.603 --> 00:19:19.771
- There's a certain number of counts
- 00:19:19.771 --> 00:19:21.373
- That are pushing out the vast
- 00:19:21.373 --> 00:19:23.508
- Majority of this disinformation.
- 00:19:23.508 --> 00:19:25.010
- And by the way, i can attest on social media,
- 00:19:25.010 --> 00:19:28.113
- Some of the stuff that i've dealt
- 00:19:28.113 --> 00:19:29.114
- With after charlie's assassination,
- 00:19:29.114 --> 00:19:31.350
- It's it's a handful of accounts that push out the vast
- 00:19:31.350 --> 00:19:33.752
- Majority of disinformation, and then it confuses everybody.
- 00:19:33.752 --> 00:19:36.688
- So what are we seeing in this case that's pushing out
- 00:19:36.688 --> 00:19:39.458
- This alternate reality, this alternate set of facts?
- 00:19:39.458 --> 00:19:44.396
- Yeah.
- 00:19:44.630 --> 00:19:45.597
- So i literally watch this happen in real time.
- 00:19:45.597 --> 00:19:48.166
- Very early on, an individual
- 00:19:48.166 --> 00:19:50.102
- By the name of tiffany billions, aka tiffany mcadoo.
- 00:19:50.102 --> 00:19:53.672
- That's her real name. what?
- 00:19:53.672 --> 00:19:56.341
- She actually ended up
- 00:19:56.341 --> 00:19:57.743
- Getting suspended on facebook because she doxed my kids.
- 00:19:57.743 --> 00:20:00.679
- She talks to my family, and facebook
- 00:20:01.446 --> 00:20:03.649
- Suspended her for that.
- 00:20:03.649 --> 00:20:04.683
- Yeah, but
- 00:20:04.683 --> 00:20:05.884
- Then she went over to tiktok, and it was originally her,
- 00:20:05.884 --> 00:20:09.488
- And she claimed to be an advocate for the family
- 00:20:09.488 --> 00:20:11.957
- That was spreading all these rumors
- 00:20:11.957 --> 00:20:13.759
- About how he was a very, like, very detailed,
- 00:20:13.759 --> 00:20:16.595
- Misinformation.
- 00:20:16.962 --> 00:20:19.264
- He was attacked by four boys.
- 00:20:19.264 --> 00:20:20.832
- Carmelo fell backwards. he crab walked backwards.
- 00:20:20.832 --> 00:20:23.402
- It was just the very detailed descriptions
- 00:20:23.402 --> 00:20:26.138
- Of an absolute fantasy that didn't that didn't happen.
- 00:20:26.138 --> 00:20:30.909
- And then slowly, little by little, up until now,
- 00:20:30.909 --> 00:20:34.246
- These exact things that she first started to say
- 00:20:34.246 --> 00:20:37.883
- Is now being spread by larger accounts.
- 00:20:37.883 --> 00:20:41.086
- And, yeah, various, select accounts online.
- 00:20:41.086 --> 00:20:44.790
- And here's what's sad about this.
- 00:20:44.790 --> 00:20:46.725
- There's this whole trend on social media right now
- 00:20:46.725 --> 00:20:49.494
- Where black men are going up to random white
- 00:20:49.494 --> 00:20:52.397
- People, many of whom are homeless,
- 00:20:52.397 --> 00:20:54.099
- By the way, and assaulting them.
- 00:20:54.099 --> 00:20:56.168
- I saw and there are warnings.
- 00:20:56.168 --> 00:20:59.004
- We played a clip yesterday on the show of men saying,
- 00:20:59.004 --> 00:21:02.541
- You better not go out of your house this weekend,
- 00:21:02.541 --> 00:21:04.976
- White people, because you're just
- 00:21:04.976 --> 00:21:07.045
- You're going to get you're going to get beat up.
- 00:21:07.045 --> 00:21:08.680
- You're going to who knows what else,
- 00:21:08.680 --> 00:21:09.915
- What what worse can happen, right?
- 00:21:09.915 --> 00:21:11.516
- They might get killed.
- 00:21:11.516 --> 00:21:12.984
- So so this race drama that's been concocted on
- 00:21:12.984 --> 00:21:15.987
- Social media by liars and bad faith actors and race hustlers
- 00:21:15.987 --> 00:21:19.758
- Is that now spilling out into real life?
- 00:21:19.758 --> 00:21:22.961
- And the the thing that that is like, mind
- 00:21:22.961 --> 00:21:25.764
- Blowing to me is that the case was so egregious against,
- 00:21:25.764 --> 00:21:29.468
- The evidence was so against carmelo
- 00:21:29.468 --> 00:21:31.770
- Anthony that not even al sharpton
- 00:21:31.770 --> 00:21:33.472
- And ben crump, the the classic race hustlers, race baiters,
- 00:21:33.472 --> 00:21:37.109
- They don't even think it's worth putting their name to.
- 00:21:37.109 --> 00:21:39.244
- And yet it's still becoming this racial drama
- 00:21:39.244 --> 00:21:43.448
- That this is an amazing microcosm of a modern problem
- 00:21:43.448 --> 00:21:46.918
- That we are dealing with in this country
- 00:21:46.918 --> 00:21:48.820
- Where you can just lie on social media,
- 00:21:48.820 --> 00:21:50.756
- Distort the facts, and guess what, sarah now has to
- 00:21:50.756 --> 00:21:53.825
- Call into the charlie kirk show.
- 00:21:53.825 --> 00:21:55.160
- So so we don't find out her location and that her
- 00:21:55.160 --> 00:21:57.462
- The people that want her bad things
- 00:21:57.462 --> 00:21:59.331
- For her can't figure out how to hurt her.
- 00:21:59.331 --> 00:22:02.033
- That's what we're dealing with.
- 00:22:02.667 --> 00:22:03.935
- Yeah.
- 00:22:03.935 --> 00:22:05.404
- It's tragic.
- 00:22:05.404 --> 00:22:06.304
- One minute, sarah, the floor is yours.
- 00:22:06.304 --> 00:22:11.009
- I just want to.
- 00:22:11.376 --> 00:22:12.043
- I just
- 00:22:12.043 --> 00:22:13.278
- I honestly just want everybody to just pray for the metcalf.
- 00:22:13.278 --> 00:22:15.614
- Regardless, even though the gag order is lifted
- 00:22:15.614 --> 00:22:18.450
- Now, they, these people know where they live.
- 00:22:18.450 --> 00:22:22.287
- These people know who they are. they are.
- 00:22:22.287 --> 00:22:24.356
- They are being watched. i'm being watched.
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- You got to understand that
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- The anthonys have not been swatted.
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- They have not been threatened.
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- But the metcalf have been swatted.
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- I've been swatted.
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- You know, megan and jeff was swatted six times.
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- And you know, when i did my.
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- Yeah.
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- And so when i did my interview with jeff last night, i'm
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- So glad
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- That he finally got to say,
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- You know, he finally got a load off
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- His chest because i can't imagine having to be quiet
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- While my murdered son is dragged through the mud,
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- And i unfortunately, i don't i don't think this is over.
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- I think they're going to have to take a lot of precautions.
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- A lot of us are going to have to take a lot of precautions
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- Because these people have shown themselves to be violent.
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- They're being incited.
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- And i just,
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- I honestly just
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- Really want to ask everyone to pray for megan
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- And jeff and really pray for hunter as well.
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- Sarah fields and i have.
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- Great. well, thank you for having me on.
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- Thank you for for making the time.
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- Please stay safe.
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- Thank you for your incredible reporting. god bless you.
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