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Charlie Kirk Today | Savannah Hernandez: April 27, 2026 | Charlie Kirk Today | April 27, 2026
- I had the
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- Opportunity to have savannah hernandez join us today.
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- She, as you know, was assaulted in minneapolis
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- And hennepin county, getting some b-roll there.
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- She's a front lines journalist.
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- And after that, she kind of had to take some time,
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- And she's back.
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- So i wanted to have her on
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- As soon as she was ready to get her story.
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- Without further ado,
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- Savannah hernandez, welcome back to the show.
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- Thanks for having me, andrew.
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- I wish it was under better circumstances.
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- Yeah, well,
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- You look good, and i know we've been staying in touch.
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- Behind the scenes is
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- You've been kind of processing everything that happened.
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- First of all, you know, and by the way, we would have
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- Had you on immediately after.
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- But, you know,
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- You were going through something,
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- And we wanted to give you space and and hopefully
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- You're feeling better now. but tell us
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- For the audience that doesn't know, tell us what happened.
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- And, and then we're going to get into some of the aftermath
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- That we've been dealing with and just,
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- You know, for your own edification,
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- We've got harmeet
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- Dhillon coming on, and we're going to be asking her about
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- All of the legal proceedings and, what
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- What progress is being made or needs to still be made.
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- So that comes at the half hour mark of this hour.
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- So tell us your story. if.
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- Sure.
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- So first off,
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- Thank you for giving me
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- The time to kind of cope with this.
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- You know,
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- I've been working in media for, the last six years,
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- And i'm very much used to being in very volatile situations
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- And then still getting on air and discussing,
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- You know, what happened.
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- This is not the first time
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- That i've been mobbed and attacked.
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- However, it was one of the most violent
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- Assaults that i've experienced.
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- So i did get a concussion as a result of this.
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- And i was kind of just trying to push through my media heads.
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- And then i just realized, you know, i can't
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- I can't keep watching the footage.
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- I can't i don't want to keep talking about this.
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- And i also physically, i'm just not doing well.
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- So i just decided to, you know, take the week, last week.
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- So thank you for giving me the time.
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- But basically, you know, i'm sure everybody's seen this.
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- For those who haven't, i was at a national protest
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- Against the ice, day, and i happened to go to minneapolis.
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- I have been watching what's been happening there.
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- I've been covering
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- Illegal immigration extensively for the last four years and
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- Didn't go when the, you know, major ice protests
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- Were happening in january.
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- And so i figured i would kind of
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- Go check out the saying,
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- Go check out the ice building and go cover this protest.
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- Right.
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- And just kind of gauge
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- Where the protesters were at and what the scene was like.
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- Now, in situations like this, i very much just conduct
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- Point and shoot
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- Observational journalism, because
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- A lot of the time these left wingers are very violent.
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- And so i was there to do that, but it didn't matter.
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- I was still violently assaulted.
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- I was identified as a journalist
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- Who works for turning point usa,
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- And after that chaos ensued, i was initially identified
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- By william scott kelly, who is the same protest
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- Who was already arrested a couple of months back
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- For storming a church in minneapolis
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- And shutting down the entire church service,
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- You know, resulting in children
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- Crying in fear
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- Because these violent protesters
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- Were in there screaming at people,
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- He was the same guy that came up to me and identified me.
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- He began badgering me with very hostile questions.
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- At that point, i was still trying
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- To diffuse the situation
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- And just, you know, do journalism. i was like,
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- Okay, we'll talk to me about while you're here.
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- Why is this important to you?
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- How many months have you guys been on the ground
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- Protesting for, discuss why you're angry?
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- It didn't matter again.
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- Like i said,
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- No matter what you say in that moment,
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- We know that the left wing has become
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- Extremely radicalized and violent.
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- It didn't matter what i said.
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- They were trying to twist my words.
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- They were just angry that i was even present in there.
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- And i was told to get the f out.
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- To which i responded, i don't have to.
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- I'm on a public street, and i have a right to be here now.
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- It didn't matter. at that point.
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- I was getting mobbed, and i did walk over
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- To a portion of the fence where i was hoping
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- Police would see me and see the situation that was unfolding.
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- Because i didn't want to have to walk
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- Through a mob on my own, because, again,
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- Typically in a mob situation
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- Where everyone is surrounding you, screaming at you and hate
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- Like obviously hate
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- You try to walk through them when they very clearly want
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- To hurt you is not the best idea.
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- So i was standing off to the side, kind
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- Of hoping that the cops would come and defuze the situation.
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- They never did.
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- So at that point i was like, okay,
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- I'm going to have to walk out because, diana strauss
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- We have a whole family here, diana, chris and paige fusco
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- That committed this very violent assault.
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- Other unnamed defendants as well, who were, swinging
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- Sex toys in my face and, you know, hitting me with them.
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- But basically these two, as you see on
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- Screen, were the ones that initially came up to me
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- And started making a huge issue.
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- And chris and paige had already body checked
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- Me and were screaming very violently at me.
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- I tried to walk away from them.
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- You know, you you did catch chris on camera.
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- There's an angle of him
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- Instructing his daughter, paige
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- To come up to me and blow a whistle in my ear.
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- At that point, i'm just trying to walk away
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- From these people.
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- They won't let me walk away from them.
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- They're following me. as i'm trying to leave.
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- Paige then decides to slam me on the ground.
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- After i get up, i have my arm out
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- To try to diffuse the situation even more
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- Because i'm like, i'm
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- Not going to fight back against these people.
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- I'm outnumbered.
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- I also i'm not here to fight people.
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- I'm just here to do my job.
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- You know, paige slams me down.
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- She's throwing punches.
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- Her mom
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- Then comes up to me from behind as i'm trying to leave and,
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- You know, accuses me of hitting her daughter.
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- I'm still trying to leave at that point.
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- And then chris comes up behind me.
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- This man is about three times
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- My size, and he, slams me to the ground.
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- I get up the first thing i see is paige in front of me again.
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- I'm like, okay, these people are clearly
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- Not going to let me leave.
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- And so i basically i'm
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- Like trying to push my way out of the situation.
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- Diana and paige then come and tackle me again.
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- Now this entire family has since,
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- Continued to state that i was the aggressor the entire time.
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- Chris states
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- That he was protecting his family
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- Because i guess
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- I was a very violent safety threat to this family.
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- Andrew, as i was trying to leave,
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- They have gone on an entire press tour.
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- And i mean, the reason why it's taken me some time
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- To even just come back on air and talk about this one,
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- You know,
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- I don't want to keep reliving it, but two, like,
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- We have to because these people aren't in jail.
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- They're still out free.
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- They're actually on social media
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- Bragging about how they're free
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- And how they're enjoying the casino,
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- And they're enjoying going to target,
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- That we have this image to this is, daughter paige.
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- It's true.
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- Go on.
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- Social media, she said, so unbothered
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- That i went from being assaulted by.
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- And she has a toilet paper roll that she claims
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- She was assaulted
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- And the police to doxed and trending on twitter
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- For a week, being sent threats constantly.
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- Rumors of my arrest to gambling at the casino
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- Free lol.
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- So that these are the quality of people
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- That we're dealing with here and the the brazenness
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- And the audacity to say that they were assaulted by you
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- When we've all seen the footage of you
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- Trying to get away from them and then
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- Consistently attacking you is really rich.
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- I mean, that's a that's a really
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- I mean, we have the
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- Footage, i don't think i don't know
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- What they think they're going to get away with here.
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- But maybe they're just banking on liberal judges,
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- Liberal prosecutors and hennepin county.
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- Is that does that seem to be the case?
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- Savannah?
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- I mean, i would argue so obviously this is an ongoing
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- Investigation at both the state and federal level.
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- But regarding the state level, it has been almost two weeks
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- Saturday will be two weeks since this very clear
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- Attack happened on camera in 4k ultra hd.
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- It's pretty cut and dry.
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- I have there has been no, you know, public statement
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- From the county da's office.
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- I've spoken to them on a personal level,
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- And they basically have just told me like, yeah,
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- We'll have more information within the week.
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- But there has really been no statement.
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- And like i said, these people are still out free,
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- Which is just very frustrating to me because instead of
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- Sitting in jail
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- After assaulting somebody who's doing nothing to them,
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- These people are on a press
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- Tour attesting that they are not violent
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- And that, again, they are the real victims here.
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- Yeah. sav, hang right there.
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- Because we've got some of that
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- Footage, which is just so obscene, and really offensive.
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- Savannah hernandez, tp, usa frontline journalists.
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- Stay right there safe.
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- We'll have you back on in just a minute.
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- We'll have you back on in just a minute.
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- We are joined by savannah hernandez.
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- We have some clips here.
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- We need to just we just need to play
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- Because i think people will be
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- Shocked when they realize just how,
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- I don't know, offensive, obnoxious.
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- These people are the, strauss go family.
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- Let's play.
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- Sot to maybe, you guys do get doxed,
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- But i don't know if you guys are getting
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- The same type of stuff
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- That we're getting, and it's nonstop.
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- It's hundreds of phone calls a day, it's text messages,
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- And i'm trying to get into all of our social media accounts
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- And contacting our friends, our neighbors, our family.
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- It's, a little overwhelming.
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- And and makes me second guess, even living in this country,
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- To be honest with you, they feel bad that he
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- He pushed a woman, assaulted a woman, violently, had it,
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- You know, had his whole family involved in the assault.
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- And now he's the victim.
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- This is their victim tour.
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- It's pretty offensive, sav. it's.
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- It's got to just be infuriating being in your position.
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- Yeah.
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- You know, it's also just comical at this point.
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- Like, i go through phases of being very angry
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- And then also just laughing because it's like,
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- Am i living in crazy land?
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- What universe am i in where this man
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- Legitimately thought
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- He could assault a woman on camera,
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- And that people were going to be on his side?
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- If anything, it has reinstalled my hope in america.
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- I'm like, okay, incredible.
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- We all can agree,
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- You know,
- 00:09:54.685 --> 00:09:55.686
- And primarily to there's like a lot of people
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- On the left that are like, yeah, don't attack women.
- 00:09:56.953 --> 00:09:59.356
- And it's actually really funny because a lot of the left
- 00:09:59.356 --> 00:10:02.125
- Wing streamers that were there that hate me,
- 00:10:02.125 --> 00:10:04.261
- They even put out statements immediately and they were like,
- 00:10:04.261 --> 00:10:06.797
- Yeah, we hate this girl.
- 00:10:06.797 --> 00:10:08.065
- We hate everything she stands for.
- 00:10:08.065 --> 00:10:09.766
- But she wasn't doing anything
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- And we probably shouldn't put our hands on women.
- 00:10:11.268 --> 00:10:13.670
- So it's like, if if you're at that extreme,
- 00:10:13.670 --> 00:10:17.574
- I'm glad that we can at least come together
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- On, you know, agreeing that it's bad to assault women
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- When you're three times their size,
- 00:10:24.214 --> 00:10:25.816
- But just a journalist in general.
- 00:10:25.816 --> 00:10:27.451
- Like, you know, i have a lot of problems with journalists.
- 00:10:27.451 --> 00:10:30.320
- I think journalists are annoying.
- 00:10:30.320 --> 00:10:31.688
- I think they're large, like a not usa.
- 00:10:31.688 --> 00:10:35.058
- But in general, journalists
- 00:10:35.058 --> 00:10:36.359
- Are annoying so-called journalists,
- 00:10:36.359 --> 00:10:38.028
- And they do a lot of harm to this country, actually.
- 00:10:38.028 --> 00:10:40.163
- But like,
- 00:10:40.163 --> 00:10:41.164
- Never in a million years what i think it's okay
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- To go out on the street and then, you know,
- 00:10:42.466 --> 00:10:44.367
- Shove somebody to the ground, kick them, punch them, assault
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- Them and get in their face with sex toys.
- 00:10:47.370 --> 00:10:50.640
- And like, i mean, what i can think
- 00:10:50.640 --> 00:10:52.409
- Of a lot of journalists, i do that too.
- 00:10:52.409 --> 00:10:54.277
- Well, yeah.
- 00:10:54.277 --> 00:10:54.945
- You you might want to quit it.
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- All right. i'm going to play page.
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- This is page again bragging about she's free.
- 00:10:58.749 --> 00:11:01.284
- Stop for currently walking free.
- 00:11:01.284 --> 00:11:03.687
- Natalia to everybody left. thanks for been arrested.
- 00:11:03.687 --> 00:11:10.894
- So she's just go to jail.
- 00:11:11.461 --> 00:11:12.963
- She's just mocking law enforcement here.
- 00:11:12.963 --> 00:11:15.665
- After i got a hold of these social media clips.
- 00:11:15.665 --> 00:11:17.834
- Because, of course, i've posted them.
- 00:11:17.834 --> 00:11:19.336
- Because people are following along with this story.
- 00:11:19.336 --> 00:11:21.338
- They want to make sure that justice is served.
- 00:11:21.338 --> 00:11:23.440
- They ended up both paige
- 00:11:23.440 --> 00:11:25.008
- And her father making both of their
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- Social media accounts private.
- 00:11:26.910 --> 00:11:28.578
- Because i think they realized
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- That going on this press tour and gloating about
- 00:11:30.113 --> 00:11:32.916
- How they're not being held
- 00:11:32.916 --> 00:11:33.817
- Responsible is a really bad look for them.
- 00:11:33.817 --> 00:11:35.986
- So, yeah, it was funny.
- 00:11:35.986 --> 00:11:38.188
- They put this out.
- 00:11:38.188 --> 00:11:39.089
- They immediately made all their accounts
- 00:11:39.089 --> 00:11:40.357
- Even more private than they already were,
- 00:11:40.357 --> 00:11:41.992
- So nobody could continue collecting
- 00:11:41.992 --> 00:11:44.561
- Again, this evidence of them.
- 00:11:44.561 --> 00:11:46.463
- And it's just so crazy to andrew because you know what?
- 00:11:46.463 --> 00:11:49.132
- Shout out to these left wing streamers that do hate me,
- 00:11:49.132 --> 00:11:51.868
- But they are the ones that did end up catching chris,
- 00:11:51.868 --> 00:11:54.871
- Instructing his daughter to come assault me.
- 00:11:54.871 --> 00:11:57.474
- And then they also caught deanna after
- 00:11:57.474 --> 00:11:59.409
- I had left the scene, admitting to tackling me to the ground
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- And admitting that she ran away
- 00:12:03.380 --> 00:12:05.081
- Before the police could get her because, you know,
- 00:12:05.081 --> 00:12:07.651
- As of now, there have been no charges referred for deanna.
- 00:12:07.651 --> 00:12:11.822
- And then it was only misdemeanor charges
- 00:12:11.822 --> 00:12:13.790
- That were referred
- 00:12:13.790 --> 00:12:14.991
- By the sheriff's department for chris and paige as well.
- 00:12:14.991 --> 00:12:17.794
- So, we'll see what ends up happening with this.
- 00:12:17.794 --> 00:12:20.931
- Like i said, this is all still ongoing, but
- 00:12:20.931 --> 00:12:24.000
- At the end of the day, andrew, it shouldn't take somebody
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- Who is like, goes viral for justice to be served.
- 00:12:26.436 --> 00:12:30.140
- And it's really frustrating
- 00:12:30.140 --> 00:12:31.174
- To me
- 00:12:31.174 --> 00:12:32.075
- That hennepin county has been allowing
- 00:12:32.075 --> 00:12:33.143
- This type of activity to take place for so long
- 00:12:33.143 --> 00:12:35.478
- That the protesters think that this is their right to do.
- 00:12:35.478 --> 00:12:38.114
- It's their right to assault people that they don't like.
- 00:12:38.114 --> 00:12:40.483
- It's their right to assault people
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- That they don't agree with.
- 00:12:41.785 --> 00:12:42.786
- Because keep in mind, i am one of many people
- 00:12:42.786 --> 00:12:46.156
- This has happened to in minneapolis, in minnesota over
- 00:12:46.156 --> 00:12:49.960
- Even just the last six months, because this is what the da's
- 00:12:49.960 --> 00:12:52.829
- Office allows.
- 00:12:52.829 --> 00:12:54.030
- And it's very frustrating to me because i don't understand
- 00:12:54.030 --> 00:12:57.200
- How our justice system has gotten so
- 00:12:57.200 --> 00:13:01.037
- Just diluted and destroyed
- 00:13:01.605 --> 00:13:03.607
- To where this is the norm for people in this world,
- 00:13:03.607 --> 00:13:06.243
- This whole family still walking free. yeah.
- 00:13:06.243 --> 00:13:08.378
- I mean, candidly, i mean, this you see this in california?
- 00:13:08.378 --> 00:13:12.115
- I see this in new york.
- 00:13:12.115 --> 00:13:13.416
- Hennepin county is no different.
- 00:13:13.416 --> 00:13:14.951
- It's it's an anarcho tyranny where they will enforce
- 00:13:14.951 --> 00:13:18.989
- The letter of the law to the most exacting extent
- 00:13:18.989 --> 00:13:22.359
- If it's a conservative,
- 00:13:22.359 --> 00:13:23.727
- But if it's one of theirs, something they agree with,
- 00:13:23.727 --> 00:13:26.196
- Then they'll let everything slide.
- 00:13:26.196 --> 00:13:27.831
- They'll, they'll
- 00:13:27.831 --> 00:13:28.798
- They'll sweep it under the rug, see it with
- 00:13:28.798 --> 00:13:29.866
- The entitlement of that guy where he's pouting.
- 00:13:29.866 --> 00:13:31.835
- Oh, we're getting we're getting ducks.
- 00:13:31.835 --> 00:13:33.203
- And, you know,
- 00:13:33.203 --> 00:13:34.404
- They they really do think it's just their day at the races.
- 00:13:34.404 --> 00:13:38.575
- Just go out and, you know, shove people punch people.
- 00:13:38.575 --> 00:13:41.878
- It's like it's like going to church for them.
- 00:13:41.878 --> 00:13:44.414
- It's you.
- 00:13:44.414 --> 00:13:45.548
- We're infringing on their religious beliefs. really?
- 00:13:45.548 --> 00:13:46.516
- Yeah. no.
- 00:13:46.516 --> 00:13:47.350
- And these are lawless [---] holes.
- 00:13:47.350 --> 00:13:49.452
- And honestly, it's outposts of lawlessness,
- 00:13:49.452 --> 00:13:52.389
- Right here in the united states of america.
- 00:13:52.389 --> 00:13:54.424
- And it's it's incredibly infuriating
- 00:13:54.424 --> 00:13:57.294
- Because if you go back to where all of the
- 00:13:57.294 --> 00:13:59.863
- All of this started, it was really
- 00:13:59.863 --> 00:14:01.298
- Local law enforcement that allowed the protesters in,
- 00:14:01.298 --> 00:14:04.901
- The minneapolis area to get out of control
- 00:14:04.901 --> 00:14:07.504
- In the first place.
- 00:14:07.504 --> 00:14:08.638
- They wanted to see minneapolis explode into a war zone,
- 00:14:08.638 --> 00:14:12.275
- And they got what they wanted.
- 00:14:12.275 --> 00:14:13.376
- Sure, it cost them a couple
- 00:14:13.376 --> 00:14:14.444
- Dead, vigilantes that that we're using their cars
- 00:14:14.444 --> 00:14:17.580
- Is, in their in the instance of alex brady.
- 00:14:17.580 --> 00:14:20.317
- I mean, he kicked a car.
- 00:14:20.317 --> 00:14:21.785
- He was, absolutely antagonizing
- 00:14:21.785 --> 00:14:24.788
- Ice agents and law enforcement officers,
- 00:14:24.788 --> 00:14:27.023
- And they got what they wanted. so what, they they lost a few.
- 00:14:27.023 --> 00:14:29.259
- They won the pr battle.
- 00:14:29.259 --> 00:14:30.460
- And, you know, that's
- 00:14:30.460 --> 00:14:31.695
- That's for them is exactly what they wanted.
- 00:14:31.695 --> 00:14:33.730
- So to [---] with the law.
- 00:14:33.730 --> 00:14:34.998
- To [---] with order.
- 00:14:34.998 --> 00:14:36.900
- Chaos rule supreme.
- 00:14:36.900 --> 00:14:38.168
- And it's really disappointing.
- 00:14:38.168 --> 00:14:40.236
- And that's why
- 00:14:40.236 --> 00:14:41.171
- We have to have federal action on this case
- 00:14:41.171 --> 00:14:43.640
- Because we have to send a message.
- 00:14:43.640 --> 00:14:45.175
- It's bigger than what happened.
- 00:14:45.175 --> 00:14:46.609
- I mean, you got
- 00:14:46.609 --> 00:14:48.111
- You got assaulted, your body took a beating.
- 00:14:48.111 --> 00:14:50.513
- I know it's been emotional for you,
- 00:14:50.513 --> 00:14:52.449
- But it's it's even bigger than that.
- 00:14:52.449 --> 00:14:54.217
- You have the concussion. it's bigger than that.
- 00:14:54.217 --> 00:14:56.519
- We have to send a message to people like this.
- 00:14:56.519 --> 00:15:00.423
- They're vigilantes. really?
- 00:15:00.423 --> 00:15:01.658
- They're the left's foot soldiers.
- 00:15:01.658 --> 00:15:03.426
- That it's not okay to do this.
- 00:15:03.426 --> 00:15:05.662
- And the the the the law and justice will be coming for you.
- 00:15:05.662 --> 00:15:09.366
- You will serve time. you will be held accountable.
- 00:15:09.366 --> 00:15:11.601
- And that's the message here.
- 00:15:11.601 --> 00:15:13.003
- So, savannah,
- 00:15:13.003 --> 00:15:14.204
- We're going to stay on this and we're going to be asking
- 00:15:14.204 --> 00:15:15.372
- Harmeet dhillon about this in just about five minutes.
- 00:15:15.372 --> 00:15:17.774
- So thank you for coming on.
- 00:15:17.774 --> 00:15:19.442
- We appreciate it steph. thanks, andrew.
- 00:15:19.442 --> 00:15:21.845
- Thanks, blake.
- 00:15:21.845 --> 00:15:25.008
- Thanks, blake.
- 00:15:25.008 --> 00:15:30.353
- Without further ado, harmeet dhillon.
- 00:15:31.154 --> 00:15:32.956
- She's the assistant attorney general for civil rights.
- 00:15:32.956 --> 00:15:35.859
- At the department of justice.
- 00:15:35.859 --> 00:15:37.627
- We're honored to have her.
- 00:15:37.627 --> 00:15:38.661
- Welcome back to the show, harmeet.
- 00:15:38.661 --> 00:15:40.597
- Thanks for having me again.
- 00:15:40.597 --> 00:15:42.665
- It's great to see you.
- 00:15:42.665 --> 00:15:43.867
- You know, you're
- 00:15:43.867 --> 00:15:44.934
- Doing a phenomenal job in a very tough environment.
- 00:15:44.934 --> 00:15:47.604
- I mean, if anybody is unaware, the doj,
- 00:15:47.604 --> 00:15:51.541
- You guys got a lot coming at you.
- 00:15:51.541 --> 00:15:53.176
- There's a lot of people demanding things of you
- 00:15:53.176 --> 00:15:55.211
- All the time.
- 00:15:55.211 --> 00:15:55.779
- And you have been,
- 00:15:55.779 --> 00:15:56.913
- In spite of that, able to continue to play offense.
- 00:15:56.913 --> 00:15:59.783
- Harmeet. and so you deserve a lot of credit for that.
- 00:15:59.783 --> 00:16:02.318
- We've got this.
- 00:16:02.318 --> 00:16:03.586
- We just had savannah hernandez
- 00:16:03.586 --> 00:16:05.055
- On, before you she had to take kind of a break from media.
- 00:16:05.055 --> 00:16:08.858
- I had been asking her, hey, can you
- 00:16:08.858 --> 00:16:09.859
- Come on and give your story?
- 00:16:09.859 --> 00:16:11.061
- And she's like, i just need a little bit more time today.
- 00:16:11.061 --> 00:16:13.430
- She said she was ready to tell kind of where she's at.
- 00:16:13.430 --> 00:16:16.099
- And, you know, one of the things
- 00:16:16.099 --> 00:16:17.567
- When you talk to her is she's pretty upset
- 00:16:17.567 --> 00:16:19.335
- That hennepin county has not been more aggressive.
- 00:16:19.335 --> 00:16:21.404
- It's basically misdemeanor slap on the wrist, kind of we'll
- 00:16:21.404 --> 00:16:24.841
- We'll update you when we know more kind of thing.
- 00:16:24.841 --> 00:16:27.844
- What can you tell me about maybe the federal level
- 00:16:27.844 --> 00:16:32.115
- About maybe the doj pursuing an investigation there?
- 00:16:32.115 --> 00:16:35.618
- Well, thanks for asking.
- 00:16:36.152 --> 00:16:37.487
- And what happened to savannah is really outrageous
- 00:16:37.487 --> 00:16:39.989
- And should never be permitted in any american city.
- 00:16:39.989 --> 00:16:42.058
- But we have been seeing
- 00:16:42.058 --> 00:16:42.992
- This kind of thing happening for years.
- 00:16:42.992 --> 00:16:44.527
- And as you know, andrew, before i joined the doj,
- 00:16:44.527 --> 00:16:47.097
- I was a lawyer for many conservative
- 00:16:47.097 --> 00:16:48.598
- Journalists, including andy andino
- 00:16:48.598 --> 00:16:50.700
- And others who were attacked in this manner by antifa
- 00:16:50.700 --> 00:16:54.070
- And other, sort of this so-called
- 00:16:54.070 --> 00:16:56.206
- Black box and anti-fascist groups.
- 00:16:56.206 --> 00:16:59.175
- And this recent thing that we're seeing with regard
- 00:16:59.175 --> 00:17:01.478
- To ice is just an outgrowth of all of that.
- 00:17:01.478 --> 00:17:03.780
- It's funded from abroad.
- 00:17:03.780 --> 00:17:05.482
- Now, we'll send them,
- 00:17:05.482 --> 00:17:06.683
- And others are part of shadowy networks that fund these types
- 00:17:06.683 --> 00:17:09.886
- Of protests in the united states
- 00:17:09.886 --> 00:17:11.621
- That are really designed to disrupt our government.
- 00:17:11.621 --> 00:17:13.590
- And i think it's very concerning.
- 00:17:13.590 --> 00:17:15.658
- What i can tell you is, as you know,
- 00:17:15.658 --> 00:17:17.760
- We already have investigations going on in minnesota
- 00:17:17.760 --> 00:17:20.630
- Regarding some of the characters
- 00:17:20.630 --> 00:17:22.265
- There who are attacking our ice and who are doing protests,
- 00:17:22.265 --> 00:17:25.135
- So-called protests.
- 00:17:25.135 --> 00:17:26.603
- We have indicted 39 people
- 00:17:26.603 --> 00:17:28.538
- For invading the city's church in saint paul.
- 00:17:28.538 --> 00:17:32.375
- One of the individuals in this mob
- 00:17:32.375 --> 00:17:34.544
- Who was egging on the attacks on savannah appears
- 00:17:34.544 --> 00:17:37.480
- To be one of the individuals involved in that matter.
- 00:17:37.480 --> 00:17:40.250
- But, you know, there's a line between speech and action.
- 00:17:40.250 --> 00:17:42.886
- We saw at least three people
- 00:17:42.886 --> 00:17:44.654
- Appear to attack, savannah there.
- 00:17:44.654 --> 00:17:46.756
- And so what i can tell you is that we do have lawyers
- 00:17:46.756 --> 00:17:49.893
- And investigators on the ground there who are looking into
- 00:17:49.893 --> 00:17:52.695
- Attacks on journalists and attacks on ice.
- 00:17:52.695 --> 00:17:56.699
- I can't say more until there may be a
- 00:17:56.699 --> 00:17:59.135
- Development in court, but, please rest assured that
- 00:17:59.135 --> 00:18:02.605
- Protecting, first amendment
- 00:18:02.605 --> 00:18:05.008
- Is incredibly important in this department of justice
- 00:18:05.008 --> 00:18:07.177
- And also protecting our, our law abiding and patriotic
- 00:18:07.177 --> 00:18:11.181
- Ice officers and doing their jobs is very important to us.
- 00:18:11.181 --> 00:18:15.218
- And mob action like this
- 00:18:15.218 --> 00:18:16.986
- Is designed to intimidate, both our law enforcement
- 00:18:16.986 --> 00:18:20.790
- And also the journalists who seek to document,
- 00:18:20.790 --> 00:18:23.193
- These attacks.
- 00:18:23.193 --> 00:18:24.594
- And it's important to america that we shut it down
- 00:18:24.594 --> 00:18:26.863
- Not only in minnesota, but everywhere we find it.
- 00:18:26.863 --> 00:18:28.998
- We're committed to that at the department of justice.
- 00:18:28.998 --> 00:18:31.067
- When you talk about incitement.
- 00:18:31.067 --> 00:18:32.368
- So i'm going to i'm going to throw up a theoretical here.
- 00:18:32.368 --> 00:18:34.404
- Hassan piker has made a lot of news this week
- 00:18:34.404 --> 00:18:37.874
- Because he's talking about social murder,
- 00:18:37.874 --> 00:18:39.842
- And he's justifying the assassination of,
- 00:18:39.842 --> 00:18:43.713
- Brian top by brian thompson.
- 00:18:43.713 --> 00:18:46.749
- Yes. the ceo of united health care.
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- Sorry, i just blanked on his name, but then.
- 00:18:49.052 --> 00:18:51.321
- So this.
- 00:18:51.321 --> 00:18:52.388
- So people are starting to dig up his clips, right?
- 00:18:52.388 --> 00:18:54.624
- Hasan piker. and there's a clip here.
- 00:18:54.624 --> 00:18:56.826
- It's like he says, if you cared about medicare
- 00:18:56.826 --> 00:18:59.362
- Fraud, you would kill rick scott.
- 00:18:59.362 --> 00:19:01.564
- If you cared about medicare
- 00:19:01.564 --> 00:19:02.932
- Fraud or medicaid fraud, you would kill rick scott.
- 00:19:02.932 --> 00:19:06.502
- So this is just him kind of off the cuff.
- 00:19:06.502 --> 00:19:08.905
- But then you see
- 00:19:08.905 --> 00:19:10.139
- Other things that he said, he's just he's talked about like
- 00:19:10.139 --> 00:19:12.642
- Stabbing people.
- 00:19:12.642 --> 00:19:13.743
- He's he's now talking about social murder
- 00:19:13.743 --> 00:19:16.145
- To justify assassination culture.
- 00:19:16.145 --> 00:19:18.681
- Like, i'm as huge of a defender of the first amendment
- 00:19:18.681 --> 00:19:22.018
- As anybody.
- 00:19:22.018 --> 00:19:23.519
- That's what charlie stood for.
- 00:19:23.519 --> 00:19:25.021
- But at what point do we get into, like,
- 00:19:25.021 --> 00:19:27.790
- You are inciting people to do crazy stuff.
- 00:19:27.790 --> 00:19:31.527
- You're inciting people.
- 00:19:31.527 --> 00:19:32.595
- And and by the way, we've got the splc,
- 00:19:32.595 --> 00:19:35.331
- News this week, which i'd love to have you opine on as well.
- 00:19:35.331 --> 00:19:39.302
- Well, so
- 00:19:39.569 --> 00:19:40.670
- This is not that hard of a question, actually,
- 00:19:40.670 --> 00:19:43.706
- The standard requires that it be a incitement
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- To imminent violence.
- 00:19:47.644 --> 00:19:48.945
- And so the crowd situation,
- 00:19:48.945 --> 00:19:52.015
- You know, that we are just describing vis-a-vis savannah
- 00:19:52.015 --> 00:19:55.218
- Is much closer to incitement, if you know the facts.
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- Pan out than hassan piker spewing his garbage,
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- On the internet, because i don't think a court
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- Would find there to be unless there is a circumstance
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- Where he's talking directly
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- To an individual with a knife poised above a person's body,
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- That that would be
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- An imminent incitement to imminent violence.
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- And so i know that's unsatisfactory for people,
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- But that's kind of what the supreme court has ruled.
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- And, you know, it's over,
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- Inclusive of speech and under inclusive of,
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- You know, criminal. fair enough.
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- So you're just saying the standard is imminent.
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- Imminent. yeah.
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- So if a tiny piker is standing in a mob
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- And saying that's, you know,
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- Fill in the blank law enforcement official,
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- Get them, get them,
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- And someone is standing next to them
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- With a rock or a gun or, or a knife that could be
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- Considered imminent incitement to imminent violence.
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- Well, we we brought up the splc and i,
- 00:20:52.809 --> 00:20:56.179
- We have to recall that they have, no great
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- Love affair of with you either.
- 00:20:58.848 --> 00:21:00.883
- So, there's a here's a headline.
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- When you were, nominated for assistant attorney general,
- 00:21:03.052 --> 00:21:06.956
- Splc expresses concern over harmeet dillon's nomination.
- 00:21:06.956 --> 00:21:11.194
- So with all the news, i figured it was, appropriate harmeet,
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- To give you an opportunity to reflect on the indictments
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- That were, delivered this week.
- 00:21:18.801 --> 00:21:21.938
- Well, you know their history with me.
- 00:21:21.938 --> 00:21:23.573
- I've commented on them going back to 2017,
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- When jeff sessions was the attorney general here.
- 00:21:26.542 --> 00:21:29.145
- He talked about their conduct, and i went on fox news
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- And talked about it as well.
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- So i've known about their shenanigans for years,
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- And i've had many clients over the years.
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- Nonprofit organizations, andi know, is another one
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- Who got under their hate map and were characterized
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- As hateful and and that kind of, social
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- Constructs, when in fact, we now know they were
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- They were creating
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- The very thing that they claim to be fighting against,
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- Which is very good for business.
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- If you're in the hate mongering
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- Business against conservatives.
- 00:21:57.173 --> 00:21:59.075
- And there was an apparently an insufficient supply of hatred
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- In our country on the right, so they had to manufacture it.
- 00:22:03.045 --> 00:22:06.549
- It is a truly shocking story, and i tend to believe
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- That this is only the tip of the iceberg.
- 00:22:09.318 --> 00:22:10.987
- Sdlc gets money laundered through various
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- Different channels.
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- So, you know, you might see an obama, foundation
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- Give money to some intermediary tides.
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- Ford some others, and then they launder that into splc.
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- And i believe
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- There are probably plenty
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- Of others much less prominent than splc.
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- And who are getting this kind of money.
- 00:22:30.306 --> 00:22:32.475
- Splc has a huge amount of money offshore,
- 00:22:32.475 --> 00:22:35.478
- By the way, as well.
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- So i'm sure my colleagues who are looking into, money
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- Laundering and financial crimes are, are very interested in
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- In that, look, again, we never try to tip our hand
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- About what we're doing.
- 00:22:46.889 --> 00:22:48.191
- But you know what?
- 00:22:48.191 --> 00:22:49.091
- We've started with the type of crimes
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- That eventually took down the mob in the united states.
- 00:22:52.728 --> 00:22:55.565
- You know, eliot, eliot ness kind of started out with tax
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- Fraud and then, you know, it went from there.
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- And so sometimes things start out
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- With what looks like a less sexy approach.
- 00:23:05.575 --> 00:23:08.311
- But i think you start unraveling the thread
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- And you're going to see a lot.
- 00:23:11.113 --> 00:23:12.215
- There are a lot of us on the right
- 00:23:12.215 --> 00:23:13.416
- Knew that there was shady stuff happening there.
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- Nobody had the will until this doj, starting under pam bondi
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- And now continuing under todd blanchett's great leadership
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- To actually do something about it.
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