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Charlie Kirk Today | Scott Jennings: May 21, 2026 | Charlie Kirk Today | May 21, 2026
- So the top line is that president
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- Trump's endorsement reigns supreme.
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- And that's certainly, i think, true on the top line.
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- But when you dive deeper into it,
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- I think it's more complex than that.
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- I think that candidates that are with the base,
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- That are with the grassroots,
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- When 37 or know right there's the graphic.
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- But if you look at what really happened, okay,
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- So we got bert jones, who was actually
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- The first trump endorsed, our candidate to endorse trump
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- In 2015. out of georgia.
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- Now he's really governor and he's now, he now won.
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- He's going to be going to a runoff
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- For the next georgia governor.
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- We have endorsed bert jones.
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- He's a great candidate. so get behind bert jones.
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- We're gonna get him on the show soon.
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- So that was one example you obviously saw
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- With mike collins, who's about as maga as it gets.
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- America first as it gets.
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- He won the us senate primary last night,
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- But he's going to be going to a runoff.
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- By the way, he was spent outspent 15 to 1.
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- But mike collins is a guy
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- Who's actually got legislation passed as a congressman
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- Out of georgia.
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- He is unabashedly pro-trump.
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- He's pro the grass roots.
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- He works his butt off.
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- We're really, really proud of his,
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- Accomplishment last night,
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- He really he got close to not needing a runoff,
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- So that was impressive for him. but we'll go.
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- He'll go to the runoff there.
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- I would expect him to win that.
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- And then the other thing that happened in georgia last night,
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- And i.
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- I'm hesitant to read too much into it.
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- I think that's fair.
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- But there was actually supreme state supreme court races
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- In georgia.
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- Three of the six seats were decided
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- Last night, all for republicans,
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- Which means republicans will control the state
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- Supreme court in purple georgia at least through 2030.
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- This is really interesting.
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- So i think a lot of people
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- Just had no idea this was going on.
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- Which is not surprising because they'll have,
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- Appointed judges,
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- But then they can go up to the vote for another term.
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- No one has lost reelection to this in over a century,
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- But democrats,
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- Because georgia is a swing state
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- That has a pretty strict abortion law,
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- This was a big part of their motivation.
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- They decided to put up challengers this time
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- And put money back.
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- And they put they put a lot of money behind it.
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- They brought in, president obama to campaign on it,
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- The ran ads,
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- They tried to really pump it up, and thankfully they failed.
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- One of their efforts was pretty close.
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- A funny thing, you'll notice, by the way,
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- You'll see that
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- There's a two people
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- They were making a big challenge against,
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- And there's actually a pretty big gap in how they fared.
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- And some are now analysts are it's a nonpartisan
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- Election technically.
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- So some analysts are saying one of the reasons,
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- The democrat who did better was named miracle rankin versus
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- The other was, i think is it joe jen jordan.
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- So miracle rankin versus jen jordan.
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- And they said
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- Miracle rankin
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- Sounded more like a name that a democrat would have.
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- So they think a lot of voters were in the booth
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- Trying to think,
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- Okay, who's more likely to be the democrat here?
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- And they were a little bit better
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- At guessing with miracle ranking than the other.
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- And so that's why she did way better than the other democrat.
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- Interesting.
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- Well, whatever the result is or whatever
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- The reason behind that is, we now have seen statewide
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- Races that won by republicans or conservatives,
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- At least in georgia, which is a good sign
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- For the general, because i want you to remember,
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- Even cnn is calling the ossoff race.
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- He's the incumbent democrat
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- Senator from the state of georgia,
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- The most vulnerable senate race
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- For democrats going into this midterm cycle.
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- So if mike collins are endorsed candidate
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- Who came out way on top last night,
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- Ends up winning the runoff, which we expect him to do,
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- Then that gives us a really good shot.
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- Looking at georgia now,
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- Georgia is one of those states that i kind of fear the most.
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- Right?
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- It's been a state that we, you know, we had perdue
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- As a senator ended up losing that.
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- We ran herschel walker ended up losing that.
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- So we've got, worn off.
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- And ossoff is our senators there.
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- We've got kemp as governor.
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- He's sort of been a thorn in trump's side.
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- It's a weird state.
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- I talked to some of the, trump 1.0 trump,
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- You know, 20, 20 guys about georgia.
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- They said it's the hardest state
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- For the president to actually crowd build in.
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- So i don't know what's going on in georgia,
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- But it's a historically red state.
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- Republicans have the registration advantage,
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- But it's plagued us at the federal level.
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- I think this is a real
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- Opportunity to take back some ground in georgia.
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- So we're watching that very closely.
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- And then again, bert jones for governor,
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- That would be, a massive, massive, race there.
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- We've endorsed bert jones.
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- So turning our attention also to kentucky,
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- That's the other big race
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- That everybody was looking at, kentucky's fourth,
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- Which is, of course, thomas massie.
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- We talked about it on the show.
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- Some we're going to actually bring scott jennings, who's
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- A kentucky native, onto the show
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- In the second half of this hour to get his take.
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- But he lost.
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- He lost by about nine points, which was significant.
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- Now a lot of people were calling this race 5050.
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- We had rich barris on the show.
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- He was even, i think, basically leaning
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- That massie was was retaking the edge.
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- But what ended up happening is the older voters here
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- Way out indexed.
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- They punched way above their weight.
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- They turned out way more than gen z and millennials.
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- And they voted in mass for thomas or for ed goren,
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- Not for thomas massie.
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- So it ended up being a huge, huge victory.
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- Obviously, president
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- Trump took a special interest in this race.
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- So did stephen miller.
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- So did, pete hegseth.
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- So secretary of war, even campaign,
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- Which is a very unusual move.
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- But, this was a massive, massive victory
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- For the president because he took special,
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- I guess, special interest in it.
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- And that's not a surprise.
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- Now, the
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- I would call it the sort of dissident
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- Wing of the conservative coalition is very upset
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- About this.
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- And i think that's to be expected.
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- Gen z was very much, in, in massey's corner.
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- And i want to show this graphic here.
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- So if you look at this is, coming from chris, brunet,
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- Massey versus gary in support by age demographic.
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- You can see that 18 to 29 year old supported massey, 78.5%
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- To 21.5%, 30 to 44 year olds.
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- That millennial demo, 64.9 to 35.1.
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- And then gen x is about 5050.
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- But look at that 65 plus blake 35 for goren
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- And 65% or 35 for massey, 65% for guy.
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- Right.
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- That turns into a landslide because they turn out in
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- Greater numbers.
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- And also they're more likely to be republican generally.
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- But it does show what we discussed.
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- There is a generational divide there.
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- And so
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- For now, it was a
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- Big beat down for the president and against massey.
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- But we can see there's there's
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- Potential shifts on the horizon
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- There could be potential shifts on the horizon.
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- Nevertheless,
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- President trump had a big night and he endorsed ken paxton,
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- Thank goodness.
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- Thank goodness.
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- All right.
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- So there is a tweet that went pretty viral
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- By one of our very common guests here.
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- It was great friend of the show and that is sean davis.
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- And he had a very interesting
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- Tweet about why he believed massey lost.
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- Now, a lot of noise has been made
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- About the massey race, because they think
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- That the israel lobby won it for him.
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- And it was it turned out to be
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- The most expensive congressional race
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- In the history of congressional races,
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- Which is saying something because typically those
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- That's like a primary and this is a primary.
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- Yeah.
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- So this ended up being, i think, a roughly around
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- $40 million on a gop primary for a congressional seat,
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- Which is unheard of
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- More than $40 per person in that district.
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- Yeah, even voter
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- And a lot of finger pointing has been made it
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- A pac and civil.
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- And they were
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- They did, play a role in this, there's no doubt.
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- But it's also worth saying that only about 5% of marcy's
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- Money came in state. all right.
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- So the rest of it came from probably mostly
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- Libertarian causes in, you know,
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- In backers in california, texas, florida, etc..
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- Okay. so this is what he said.
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- Why did massey lose?
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- Massey went from principled libertarian
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- During covid to gop leadership, lapdog under mccarthy
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- To anti-trump epstein obsessive in 2025
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- After tweeting about that issue a whopping
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- Three times in the decade prior.
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- So the point sean had made on our show as well,
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- The epstein point
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- That massey it only mentioned that three times in a decade.
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- Immediately 2025 comes around and it's basically
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- I think he's talking
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- About the nail in the coffin for him was voting against
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- The one big beautiful bill in 2025
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- Because, according to massey, it did too much to secure
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- The border.
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- Sean ended up
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- Getting challenged on that and he was proven correct.
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- Massey did make a comment like that.
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- Here's what's interesting about this.
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- And i thought sean did a great job in this tweet.
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- He said trump mercilessly, mercilessly trashed
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- Massey in 2020, calling him a disaster
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- For america and kentucky,
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- Saying he should be thrown out of the gop entirely.
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- But massey easily swatted that away.
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- And one 8119
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- So trump didn't like massey in 2020
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- And yet he won 80 to 20.
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- So in his prime
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- It's it's exactly what he says which is massey has massey
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- Has annoyed trump for a long time.
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- Trump has wanted him gone a lot longer than he's wanted
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- Other republicans gone.
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- He's one of the few guys
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- Who trump went after in his first term
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- And has stuck around all the way until now.
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- He served,
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- But i think he served, what, seven terms? yeah.
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- And he yeah, he was around even before trump was.
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- And he annoyed him in a bunch of ways.
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- But what was actually fatal to him is when he decides to,
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- First of all, become this character who's persona
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- Is being annoying to trump and then getting.
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- You got a lot of love from ro khanna, from mother
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- Jones, from left wing outlets, because he's doing this.
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- And on top of that, that he decided
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- To become the face of,
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- I'll be frank, an issue that i don't think is
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- Is core to the maga priorities
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- In terms of saving the country,
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- And instead just kind of involves
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- Smearing the president and his allies where he's saying there
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- He just says they're all protecting pedophiles.
- 00:10:50.242 --> 00:10:52.111
- That is an insane thing to say.
- 00:10:52.111 --> 00:10:53.645
- Yeah, it was an insane thing to say,
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- Especially since the democrats were sitting
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- On the epstein files
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- For four years and didn't even mention him.
- 00:10:59.051 --> 00:11:00.552
- Nobody even brought it up.
- 00:11:00.552 --> 00:11:01.620
- Now, it'd be one thing if there was any leadership
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- During those four years to unseal the epstein files.
- 00:11:04.656 --> 00:11:08.427
- There wasn't
- 00:11:08.761 --> 00:11:09.928
- The only people that have actually unsealed anything,
- 00:11:09.928 --> 00:11:11.764
- And you could disagree with the way they did it.
- 00:11:11.764 --> 00:11:13.365
- Is the trump administration okay?
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- Something he said. weirder things.
- 00:11:15.367 --> 00:11:17.169
- I think he, he he shouldn't get away with what he does.
- 00:11:17.169 --> 00:11:20.139
- He's suggested that jeffrey epstein is actually alive
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- And they're covering up his death was faked.
- 00:11:23.008 --> 00:11:25.177
- He's done that. he's done that. yes.
- 00:11:25.177 --> 00:11:26.779
- He said he said like we don't know where he is.
- 00:11:26.779 --> 00:11:29.114
- And then on top of that, he's also called for
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- Criminal charges to be brought against people who we like.
- 00:11:31.850 --> 00:11:35.654
- Actually, categorically, no,
- 00:11:35.654 --> 00:11:37.389
- There's like no credible allegations against her.
- 00:11:37.389 --> 00:11:39.291
- In fact, allegations
- 00:11:39.291 --> 00:11:40.459
- Have already been investigated and found to be groundless.
- 00:11:40.459 --> 00:11:42.661
- And he just says we should
- 00:11:42.661 --> 00:11:43.629
- We should prosecute and indict them anyway.
- 00:11:43.629 --> 00:11:45.164
- Well, he's been hugely reckless with this
- 00:11:45.164 --> 00:11:47.065
- And he deserved to get on.
- 00:11:47.065 --> 00:11:48.100
- But i think it's something
- 00:11:48.100 --> 00:11:49.368
- I think it's something even deeper actually
- 00:11:49.368 --> 00:11:51.837
- Sort of fundamental.
- 00:11:51.837 --> 00:11:52.805
- And this is actually the main paragraph
- 00:11:52.805 --> 00:11:54.606
- I wanted to get to from sean.
- 00:11:54.606 --> 00:11:56.208
- He said massey lost because he went from
- 00:11:56.208 --> 00:11:58.944
- Being perceived as a quirky but lovable nerd
- 00:11:58.944 --> 00:12:02.114
- Who seemed to genuinely believe everything he said,
- 00:12:03.148 --> 00:12:06.018
- Which is definitely the way that i perceived massey.
- 00:12:06.018 --> 00:12:08.387
- I believe that, like, listen, i disagreed with them on stuff.
- 00:12:08.387 --> 00:12:10.756
- I really agree with him on some stuff,
- 00:12:10.756 --> 00:12:12.491
- But i believed
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- That he believed it,
- 00:12:13.358 --> 00:12:14.393
- You know, and he was sticking to his principles.
- 00:12:14.393 --> 00:12:16.895
- So he went from that to looking like a clout
- 00:12:16.895 --> 00:12:19.198
- Chasing influencer who cared more
- 00:12:19.198 --> 00:12:21.166
- About getting tv time with democrats on an issue
- 00:12:21.166 --> 00:12:23.602
- He clearly never cared about until five minutes ago
- 00:12:23.602 --> 00:12:26.205
- Than he did about representing his voters.
- 00:12:26.205 --> 00:12:30.175
- And that, i think, is a really interesting stuff.
- 00:12:30.175 --> 00:12:33.045
- And he,
- 00:12:33.045 --> 00:12:33.412
- You know,
- 00:12:33.412 --> 00:12:33.745
- He says,
- 00:12:33.745 --> 00:12:33.812
- I don't know if it was losing his wife,
- 00:12:34.646 --> 00:12:35.681
- The tragic death of his spouse.
- 00:12:35.681 --> 00:12:37.916
- I don't know if, you know, if it was a desire
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- For notoriety or media claim or lucrative podcasting career.
- 00:12:40.919 --> 00:12:44.056
- And by the way, that's what everybody's predicting is that
- 00:12:44.056 --> 00:12:46.792
- Massey is going to now become a podcaster.
- 00:12:46.792 --> 00:12:50.262
- We'll see him on the podcast
- 00:12:50.262 --> 00:12:51.363
- Circuit with, you know, dave smith and, you know,
- 00:12:51.363 --> 00:12:54.266
- Probably candace, like whoever else.
- 00:12:54.266 --> 00:12:56.602
- Right?
- 00:12:56.602 --> 00:12:57.436
- So i don't know what's going to happen
- 00:12:57.436 --> 00:12:59.738
- In the future, but that's what everybody's predicting.
- 00:12:59.738 --> 00:13:02.341
- And it does feel like that was ultimately what happened.
- 00:13:02.341 --> 00:13:05.043
- If you if you do like a before and after of thomas massey,
- 00:13:05.043 --> 00:13:07.980
- When he was married to his wife
- 00:13:07.980 --> 00:13:09.147
- And he had like no facial hair and he literally
- 00:13:09.147 --> 00:13:11.216
- Went from looking like a dork to looking like like robert,
- 00:13:11.216 --> 00:13:13.919
- Like a civil war general. you got a glow up.
- 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:16.154
- And and that was interesting.
- 00:13:16.154 --> 00:13:17.556
- And by the way, that happens sometimes when people lose
- 00:13:17.556 --> 00:13:20.259
- Their spouse later in life.
- 00:13:20.259 --> 00:13:21.326
- They kind of go back to the gym and they kind of,
- 00:13:21.326 --> 00:13:23.295
- I'm not even mad about any of that stuff.
- 00:13:23.295 --> 00:13:25.097
- I'm just saying
- 00:13:25.097 --> 00:13:26.064
- I actually think that was more fundamental
- 00:13:26.064 --> 00:13:28.066
- Because he really had chops and credibility,
- 00:13:28.066 --> 00:13:31.937
- And then it just felt like
- 00:13:31.937 --> 00:13:33.705
- He went he went in a different direction.
- 00:13:33.705 --> 00:13:36.074
- And and i think the voters perceive that.
- 00:13:36.074 --> 00:13:38.477
- And he says massey's voters didn't change all that much.
- 00:13:38.477 --> 00:13:42.214
- But he did. he did.
- 00:13:42.214 --> 00:13:43.582
- And they notice our audience captures a real thing.
- 00:13:43.582 --> 00:13:46.485
- Yeah.
- 00:13:46.485 --> 00:13:47.653
- And i think massey, he got he felt like he got caught up.
- 00:13:47.653 --> 00:13:50.589
- He he got caught up in
- 00:13:50.589 --> 00:13:51.623
- Becoming a celebrity for lack of a better term.
- 00:13:51.623 --> 00:13:54.459
- Well, they're already chanting his
- 00:13:54.459 --> 00:13:55.661
- Name for 2028 during his concession speech.
- 00:13:55.661 --> 00:13:58.830
- So i put it this way.
- 00:13:59.331 --> 00:14:00.933
- We have not seen the last of thomas massey.
- 00:14:00.933 --> 00:14:03.135
- It'll just be a question of what he chooses to do.
- 00:14:03.135 --> 00:14:06.238
- Certainly.
- 00:14:06.238 --> 00:14:07.406
- Scott jennings joins us next. mr..
- 00:14:08.173 --> 00:14:10.108
- Kentucky, i'm sure he's got some opinions on this stuff.
- 00:14:10.108 --> 00:14:13.111
- We'll talk to him next.
- 00:14:13.111 --> 00:14:17.008
- We'll talk to him next.
- 00:14:17.008 --> 00:14:22.322
- I want to bring in the great scott jennings mister kentucky.
- 00:14:23.489 --> 00:14:27.760
- We got lots to talk about.
- 00:14:27.760 --> 00:14:29.329
- Scott, welcome back to the show, my friend.
- 00:14:29.329 --> 00:14:31.030
- Good to see you.
- 00:14:31.030 --> 00:14:32.432
- Hey, andrew. good to see you, brother.
- 00:14:32.432 --> 00:14:33.766
- Thanks for the invite.
- 00:14:33.766 --> 00:14:34.968
- Yeah, man, i'm so glad i know you got your show on next.
- 00:14:34.968 --> 00:14:37.070
- So everybody check that out.
- 00:14:37.070 --> 00:14:38.104
- And you made time for us, so i appreciate it.
- 00:14:38.104 --> 00:14:39.973
- All right, so i saw you on cnn last night.
- 00:14:39.973 --> 00:14:42.575
- I saw the clip you went off on, mr.
- 00:14:42.575 --> 00:14:45.745
- Thomas massey.
- 00:14:45.745 --> 00:14:47.347
- I'm going to play the clip, and i'll get your reaction to
- 00:14:47.347 --> 00:14:49.816
- It here.
- 00:14:49.816 --> 00:14:50.783
- Sot 19 would i would have come out sooner,
- 00:14:50.783 --> 00:14:53.553
- But i had to call my opponent and concede.
- 00:14:53.553 --> 00:14:56.322
- And it took a while to find ed gal goren in tel aviv.
- 00:14:56.322 --> 00:15:00.793
- I didn't expect that.
- 00:15:01.294 --> 00:15:03.262
- I didn't expect that from him.
- 00:15:03.262 --> 00:15:05.164
- I, look, i live in this district.
- 00:15:05.164 --> 00:15:08.901
- I vote in this district.
- 00:15:08.901 --> 00:15:10.670
- I have voted for thomas massey many times.
- 00:15:10.670 --> 00:15:13.139
- That was terrible.
- 00:15:13.139 --> 00:15:15.575
- And i, i thought, you know, he is, in my opinion,
- 00:15:15.575 --> 00:15:20.079
- He has changed somewhat over the years.
- 00:15:20.079 --> 00:15:21.948
- And this,
- 00:15:21.948 --> 00:15:24.050
- Dipping into this anti-semitism
- 00:15:24.050 --> 00:15:26.786
- And sort of making everything about israel.
- 00:15:26.786 --> 00:15:29.255
- And i just,
- 00:15:29.255 --> 00:15:30.990
- I don't know, i think, you know, where i stand on it.
- 00:15:30.990 --> 00:15:33.760
- I don't think this is good for our party.
- 00:15:33.760 --> 00:15:35.795
- I don't think it's good for the conservative movement.
- 00:15:35.795 --> 00:15:38.331
- And, and for him to go up on stage and do that
- 00:15:38.331 --> 00:15:41.134
- Last night was pretty, pretty bad, in my opinion.
- 00:15:41.134 --> 00:15:43.503
- So, yeah, i said on cnn, i thought it was, worth
- 00:15:43.503 --> 00:15:46.806
- Noting and worth calling out and, worth condemning.
- 00:15:46.806 --> 00:15:50.109
- And so i did it.
- 00:15:50.109 --> 00:15:50.810
- I like thomas massey.
- 00:15:50.810 --> 00:15:52.311
- I have had affection for him.
- 00:15:52.311 --> 00:15:53.880
- Charlie had affection for him, you know? yeah.
- 00:15:53.880 --> 00:15:56.249
- There was more than a few comments
- 00:15:56.249 --> 00:15:58.484
- In my mentions yesterday
- 00:15:58.484 --> 00:16:00.019
- Saying you've betrayed charlie and all of this.
- 00:16:00.019 --> 00:16:02.922
- Here's the thing.
- 00:16:02.922 --> 00:16:04.590
- Thomas massey used to vote.
- 00:16:04.590 --> 00:16:05.892
- Yeah, have a tremendous voting record, actually.
- 00:16:05.892 --> 00:16:08.828
- And then two years ago, something changed.
- 00:16:08.828 --> 00:16:11.464
- And, and then it wasn't so good.
- 00:16:11.464 --> 00:16:13.699
- And he got fixated on the epstein stuff.
- 00:16:13.699 --> 00:16:15.635
- He got fixated on the, you know,
- 00:16:15.635 --> 00:16:19.072
- The gop is protecting pedophile stuff.
- 00:16:19.072 --> 00:16:22.809
- And i think we need to have a real conversation
- 00:16:22.809 --> 00:16:25.311
- About epstein because nobody wants to do it
- 00:16:25.311 --> 00:16:29.115
- Because, i mean, there's like, michael tracy,
- 00:16:29.115 --> 00:16:31.050
- You know, and he gets widely excoriated for it.
- 00:16:31.050 --> 00:16:34.187
- But first fact here is that,
- 00:16:34.187 --> 00:16:36.923
- You know, the democrats didn't release the files.
- 00:16:37.890 --> 00:16:40.860
- The republicans have been releasing the files.
- 00:16:40.860 --> 00:16:42.495
- You may not like the way they did it.
- 00:16:42.495 --> 00:16:43.663
- Okay, fine. i have some critiques, too.
- 00:16:43.663 --> 00:16:45.431
- I do i didn't like the binder thing.
- 00:16:45.431 --> 00:16:47.700
- I didn't, you know, like, i didn't like
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- I didn't like trump's reaction to it.
- 00:16:49.302 --> 00:16:51.270
- Charlie didn't like trump's reaction to it.
- 00:16:51.270 --> 00:16:53.239
- But the truth is, and blake has been out,
- 00:16:53.239 --> 00:16:55.508
- I give blake a ton of credit here.
- 00:16:55.508 --> 00:16:57.543
- He's,
- 00:16:57.543 --> 00:16:59.412
- There hasn't been the smoking gun
- 00:16:59.412 --> 00:17:01.247
- That we that we wanted or expected
- 00:17:01.247 --> 00:17:03.282
- Or thought was going to materialize.
- 00:17:03.282 --> 00:17:04.917
- There's been a lot of bad behavior.
- 00:17:04.917 --> 00:17:06.752
- There's been a lot of, gross stuff.
- 00:17:06.752 --> 00:17:09.222
- But this, you know, and that's part of it.
- 00:17:09.222 --> 00:17:11.124
- It's like they say it.
- 00:17:11.124 --> 00:17:12.358
- We're always apparently one email release away, one file.
- 00:17:12.358 --> 00:17:14.927
- You know, we'll finally get the smoking gun.
- 00:17:14.927 --> 00:17:16.329
- That's just, oh, here's the list.
- 00:17:16.329 --> 00:17:17.530
- And every single crime this person committed.
- 00:17:17.530 --> 00:17:19.332
- And also here's this video.
- 00:17:19.332 --> 00:17:20.433
- And instead we have millions of these things.
- 00:17:20.433 --> 00:17:23.503
- And some of them have been humiliating for incredibly
- 00:17:23.503 --> 00:17:26.873
- Rich and influential people.
- 00:17:26.873 --> 00:17:28.040
- If if bill gates is getting humiliated,
- 00:17:28.040 --> 00:17:29.876
- If elon musk is getting humiliated,
- 00:17:29.876 --> 00:17:31.711
- If leon black is getting
- 00:17:31.711 --> 00:17:33.146
- Embarrassed by what comes out of these,
- 00:17:33.146 --> 00:17:34.647
- If lawrence summers is getting embarrassed
- 00:17:34.647 --> 00:17:36.949
- By what's coming out of these, like,
- 00:17:36.949 --> 00:17:39.018
- Where's the cover up here?
- 00:17:39.018 --> 00:17:40.386
- Because really important and notable
- 00:17:40.386 --> 00:17:42.321
- People are actually getting dumped on from this stuff.
- 00:17:42.321 --> 00:17:45.258
- But the idea that there's like,
- 00:17:45.258 --> 00:17:46.692
- You know, there's going to be this email
- 00:17:46.692 --> 00:17:47.960
- That gets released and then, you know, 6 to 7 pedophiles
- 00:17:47.960 --> 00:17:51.697
- That are all billionaires
- 00:17:51.697 --> 00:17:52.932
- Are going to be thrown in
- 00:17:52.932 --> 00:17:54.000
- In the gulag or something like
- 00:17:54.000 --> 00:17:55.501
- That's just we just haven't seen i would love to see that.
- 00:17:55.501 --> 00:17:58.971
- I would love to see a bunch of pedophiles
- 00:17:58.971 --> 00:18:00.773
- Be, you know, frog march.
- 00:18:00.773 --> 00:18:02.208
- Yeah, exactly.
- 00:18:02.208 --> 00:18:03.643
- If it's not there, it's not there.
- 00:18:03.643 --> 00:18:05.244
- We have to have rules and we have to have laws,
- 00:18:05.244 --> 00:18:07.280
- And we have to deal with
- 00:18:07.280 --> 00:18:08.381
- This thing the way a civilized, advanced nation would.
- 00:18:08.381 --> 00:18:11.517
- Instead.
- 00:18:11.517 --> 00:18:12.718
- One of my critiques of massey
- 00:18:12.718 --> 00:18:14.654
- Is that, yeah,
- 00:18:14.654 --> 00:18:15.855
- You you you let on this you were you out with ro khanna,
- 00:18:15.855 --> 00:18:19.358
- But you didn't even mention it for a decade.
- 00:18:19.358 --> 00:18:22.161
- And all of a sudden it became your cause de jure.
- 00:18:22.161 --> 00:18:24.764
- And listen, i'm with him candidly on the iran war.
- 00:18:24.764 --> 00:18:27.900
- Scott, you and you and i might be
- 00:18:27.900 --> 00:18:29.402
- A little bit of difference of opinion on that, but, like,
- 00:18:29.402 --> 00:18:32.538
- You can't be a thorn in your side of your party for
- 00:18:32.538 --> 00:18:36.209
- For years now and not build up some enemies and some ire.
- 00:18:36.209 --> 00:18:40.112
- So i, i'm, you know, i have no ill will towards him.
- 00:18:40.112 --> 00:18:43.482
- I'm just, i'm also like not that upset today okay.
- 00:18:43.482 --> 00:18:46.886
- And i didn't like the tel aviv joke. okay.
- 00:18:46.886 --> 00:18:49.455
- Or whatever you want to call that.
- 00:18:49.455 --> 00:18:51.457
- Yeah.
- 00:18:51.691 --> 00:18:52.258
- On the epstein stuff.
- 00:18:52.258 --> 00:18:53.326
- You know,
- 00:18:53.326 --> 00:18:54.360
- Marcy spent a lot of time with ro khanna, and ro
- 00:18:54.360 --> 00:18:56.162
- Khanna was using the issue to hurt donald trump.
- 00:18:56.162 --> 00:18:59.232
- And thomas massie started to try to use the issue
- 00:18:59.232 --> 00:19:01.500
- To hurt donald trump.
- 00:19:01.500 --> 00:19:02.501
- Democrats wanted everybody to believe that
- 00:19:02.501 --> 00:19:05.271
- Donald trump had some problem in the epstein files.
- 00:19:05.271 --> 00:19:08.207
- They still go out and say
- 00:19:08.207 --> 00:19:09.275
- That on television almost every day.
- 00:19:09.275 --> 00:19:10.743
- I hear it every day.
- 00:19:10.743 --> 00:19:11.877
- There's not a shred of evidence
- 00:19:11.877 --> 00:19:12.945
- Donald trump ever did anything wrong.
- 00:19:12.945 --> 00:19:15.081
- I think
- 00:19:15.081 --> 00:19:16.215
- One of massey's problems is, is that he began to think,
- 00:19:16.215 --> 00:19:18.417
- Because i guess of all of his online activity,
- 00:19:18.417 --> 00:19:20.586
- That he was somehow bigger in the party or more
- 00:19:20.586 --> 00:19:24.023
- He was supposed to be setting the agenda for the party.
- 00:19:24.023 --> 00:19:26.325
- No, the republican voters here
- 00:19:26.325 --> 00:19:27.727
- Want donald trump to set the agenda.
- 00:19:27.727 --> 00:19:29.795
- And he had set that agenda.
- 00:19:29.795 --> 00:19:31.564
- Massey opposed the agenda,
- 00:19:31.564 --> 00:19:33.466
- And he paid the price in a primary.
- 00:19:33.466 --> 00:19:35.101
- It's it's easy to overanalyze these things,
- 00:19:35.101 --> 00:19:37.570
- But it's really no more complicated than that.
- 00:19:37.570 --> 00:19:39.772
- In my opinion.
- 00:19:39.772 --> 00:19:40.573
- The older you are,
- 00:19:40.573 --> 00:19:41.540
- The more likely you were to vote for gowran.
- 00:19:41.540 --> 00:19:44.477
- The younger you were,
- 00:19:44.477 --> 00:19:45.444
- The more likely you were to vote for massey.
- 00:19:45.444 --> 00:19:48.481
- What do you make of the generational divide
- 00:19:48.481 --> 00:19:50.449
- And is it problematic or those that
- 00:19:50.449 --> 00:19:52.118
- Are going to grow up and change their voting habits?
- 00:19:52.118 --> 00:19:54.787
- I mean, what do you see here?
- 00:19:54.787 --> 00:19:56.989
- Some of it, i think has to do with communications.
- 00:19:56.989 --> 00:19:58.991
- I think massey
- 00:19:58.991 --> 00:20:00.059
- Tends to communicate more on platforms
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- That are used by younger voters.
- 00:20:02.461 --> 00:20:03.929
- And gal run
- 00:20:03.929 --> 00:20:05.097
- The communications around his campaign were on platforms
- 00:20:05.097 --> 00:20:08.167
- That were geared towards older voters.
- 00:20:08.167 --> 00:20:09.869
- I also think gail ryan,
- 00:20:09.869 --> 00:20:11.437
- You know, look, he supported the president on iran.
- 00:20:11.437 --> 00:20:13.773
- He's a veteran. he's a navy seal.
- 00:20:13.773 --> 00:20:16.142
- You know, i think that message vector, frankly, was more,
- 00:20:16.142 --> 00:20:20.446
- You know, kind of wrap in the flag,
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- Wrap and patriotism, support the commander in chief.
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- That meant more, i think, to the older voters,
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- In the fourth congressional district,
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- Who i think are more
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- Traditional conservatives
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- When it comes to national security stuff.
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- If donald trump says we need to go attack somebody,
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- They're going to get in line and they want to do it.
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- And gail
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- Ryan was certainly was certainly right there on that.
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- I worry a little bit about some of the conspiracies
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- And the, sort of what i don't consider to be conservative
- 00:20:44.236 --> 00:20:47.740
- Messaging vectors that massey was pursuing to try to attract
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- Some of the younger voters, you know, but but, you know,
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- That's the kind of campaign he chose to run.
- 00:20:55.848 --> 00:20:57.717
- The district, you know, has some younger voters in it.
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- But, you know, it's a republican primary
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- In a rural area and middle america.
- 00:21:01.487 --> 00:21:03.389
- There's a lot of older traditional conservatives
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- In there who just decided i would rather have a more,
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- You know,
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- Loyal republican in the job to help my president succeed.
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- And, you know,
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- Maybe some of the younger voters
- 00:21:14.700 --> 00:21:15.735
- Didn't didn't feel that way as much about gal
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- Ryan, you know, get ryan himself.
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- He wasn't really that much of a part of that campaign.
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- He was endorsed by trump.
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- The whole thing was a referendum on.
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- Is massie supporting trump enough?
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- I mean, that was the whole question.
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- And whether you voted him up
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- Or down, i don't think it had as much to do with gal ryan's,
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- Credentials or his views as it did with just
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- I, you know,
- 00:21:38.657 --> 00:21:39.592
- I thought massey was going to help trump,
- 00:21:39.592 --> 00:21:40.426
- And it turns out he's hurting him.
- 00:21:40.426 --> 00:21:41.727
- And people got.
- 00:21:41.727 --> 00:21:43.329
- I'm going to play this, hakeem jeffries clip
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- Because i do think one of the best arguments
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- And i don't think it's cope, i don't think it's copium
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- Is that dems do overshoot.
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- They scare the hell out of a lot of people
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- I know, myself included.
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- Sot ten
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- I guess part of how we as house democrats view this moment,
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- Either maga extremists are going to break the country,
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- Or we're going to break them and our goal is to break them.
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- We will defeat them.
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- We have to beat them electorally,
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- And then we have to break their spirit
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- Because of the extremism that's being unleashed
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- On the american people.
- 00:22:15.895 --> 00:22:16.896
- That's completely and totally unacceptable.
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- Final words to you, scott.
- 00:22:18.998 --> 00:22:21.066
- So when you hear hakeem jeffries or any other democrats
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- Say maga extremist, they just mean
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- Anybody who has ever voted republican in their life.
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- That's the thing.
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- They're not
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- Talking about 5 or 10 people that they don't like.
- 00:22:32.878 --> 00:22:35.281
- They're talking about 80 million americans
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- Who voted for donald trump, who vote republican,
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- Who just want to go out and support,
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- You know, a common sense conservative to them.
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- You are a maga extremist
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- Who needs to be punished, who needs to get something,
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- They need to get revenge on you.
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- They need to break your spirit.
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- Winning at the ballot box
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- Will not be enough for these people.
- 00:22:55.167 --> 00:22:56.402
- They're already promising retribution and revenge on
- 00:22:56.402 --> 00:22:59.505
- Anybody who's ever been within 200ft of donald trump.
- 00:22:59.505 --> 00:23:02.775
- And now they're extending that to anybody who ever cast
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- A ballot for a republican candidate in any office.
- 00:23:05.978 --> 00:23:08.814
- That's what i hear in hakeem jeffries words.
- 00:23:08.814 --> 00:23:10.883
- Well, i mean, i feel for you, scott,
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- Because every night on cnn, i'm
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- Pretty sure you're sitting around a table of people
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- Who think you're a maga extremist
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- And you're just you're pretty,
- 00:23:17.790 --> 00:23:18.891
- Like, mainstream guy, you know?
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- All right, scott jennings, have a good show.
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- We'll see you next time, my frie
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