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  • Over the
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  • Weekend, trump, announced via truth social
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  • That he was going to start, opening the strait,
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  • Escorting countries
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  • That are quote unquote, victims of circumstance.
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  • And he's calling it operation freedom,
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  • Where they're going to be leading and guiding ships
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  • Through the strait of hormuz to sort of ease
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  • Maybe the economic fallout from the strait being closed.
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  • Obviously, about 20 to 30% of the world's
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  • Energy flows through the strait of hormuz.
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  • And just before the show began, we started hearing rumors
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  • That iran was firing back
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  • After this announcement from the president.
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  • So what do we have?
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  • We have the uae says that four missiles have been
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  • Have been shot at the uae, uae four cruise missiles,
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  • Three were intercepted, one dropped into the sea.
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  • But we are also getting, confirmations that
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  • There is a fire at the fujairah oil industry zone.
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  • So the, the, goes by four is, caused by a drone strike
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  • Coming from iran, and uae is issuing safety alerts.
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  • And, basically, this is now an open question.
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  • Does this violate the cease fire?
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  • Are we about to see a return to kinetic hostilities
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  • Led by the us military in the region?
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  • We are told there's about 15,000 service
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  • Members at, activated right now in this moment.
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  • There was also reports, unconfirmed,
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  • I believe, at this point that a south korean,
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  • Tanker was hit by a mine in the strait.
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  • So we're looking to it for confirmation on that.
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  • But this then is it seems like a
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  • Return to the story lines of about a month ago.
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  • Blake, or three weeks ago, where,
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  • You know, we could be at the precipice
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  • Of active military strikes against iran once more.
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  • We could we we could see more strikes.
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  • We could see attempt attempted the
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  • You know, if they're launching stuff
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  • At the uae that could very much be signaling
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  • Ships shouldn't join this attempt to run the blockade.
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  • They're trying to show they can still shoot missiles
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  • That can hit things, trying to spook them.
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  • So we might see an escalation where the u.s.
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  • Tries to induce ships to come along.
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  • Iran might try to hit them.
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  • If they do, then they might see strikes.
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  • You know, we're seeing why this has proven such
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  • An intractable and difficult conflict,
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  • Which is it's been difficult for us to actually shut down
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  • Iran's ability to launch missiles.
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  • We haven't knocked down that regime.
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  • The blockade does
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  • Seem to be having some effect, but it hasn't
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  • Caused the regime to collapse.
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  • It's difficult to destroy a country by blockade,
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  • Even when it's an island, as we've seen with cuba.
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  • Yeah.
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  • Also, the major effect i think of
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  • The blockade is economic, right?
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  • The 40% of iran's gdp,
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  • Has been wiped off the books in just the last two months.
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  • How do you finish this off if they're willing
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  • To just sort of grin and bear it
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  • And lose their economy, in order to not lose face
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  • And to maintain their dignity and their sovereignty,
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  • And remember that they control the vast
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  • Majority of the shoreline of the strait of hormuz.
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  • They're claiming it as their own.
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  • Ultimately, they're sort of feckless, but
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  • All they have to do is wait it out.
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  • Then that becomes a massive problem.
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  • So we obviously root for success,
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  • But we're also very honest about the fact that there
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  • Doesn't seem to be a quick, easy, obvious route
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  • Out of this conflict as we currently see it there.
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  • Yeah, we're controlling things. we destroyed their navy.
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  • We destroyed their military, their missile, capacity.
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  • The to shoot them
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  • And to produce them is greatly degraded.
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  • But at what point do we just have to keep this going?
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  • Is this, like a forever quagmire
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  • Where we just have to blockade the strait and energy
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  • Prices around the globe remain inflated?
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  • So that's a huge, huge question.
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  • And we don't have an answer to it yet.
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  • And this is why we were always,
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  • I would say, warning about this, this conflict.
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  • This is why i think charlie was accurate,
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  • To be warning about this conflict.
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  • You know, there's a lot of talk about
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  • Is iran a rational actor?
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  • Are they making decisions rationally?
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  • This was obviously, first it was, first
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  • And foremost the discussion
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  • About nuclear weapons, but now becomes
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  • Obviously it would be in their best interest
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  • To get a truce, to get a peace just for economic reasons.
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  • Are they rational in that sense?
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  • I'm not so sure that they're going to behave
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  • Rationally when it comes to this,
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  • Because they believe that they have the leverage.
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  • And when we talk about leverage it, they think they have
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  • The leverage because they can stand the,
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  • This, this conflict longer,
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  • Potentially, than the patience of the american people.
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  • And the what we'll say is also, there's going to be
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  • Because we've been around this for several months,
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  • There's going to be people,
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  • I think, adjacent to the white house,
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  • Maybe in the white house, who will tell the president,
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  • If you do this one thing,
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  • If you take this one step that's more aggressive,
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  • Put boots on the ground, seize
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  • Car island, you'll be able to end the war.
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  • One be skeptical of that.
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  • And two,
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  • We ask every young person who comes on this show
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  • How their friends feel about this.
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  • And every single time they've said it's very unpopular.
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  • Yeah, blake,
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  • I don't know what you knew
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  • About know about mayday, but it's a comedy.
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  • It's a comedy.
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  • It's actually the international worker's
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  • Day, which is code for communism.
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  • And listen, we like workers as much as the other guy, but,
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  • Like, you know, don't fall for the nice sounding slogans.
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  • Workers day.
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  • Oh, it sounds like i'm a worker, i support that.
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  • No, this is this is,
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  • You know, absolutely from far-left progressive groups.
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  • And basically what happened was it was a workers over
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  • Billionaires coalition called
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  • For a nationwide day of action with the slogan no school.
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  • Interesting that they put that first.
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  • No school, no work, no shopping involving protests,
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  • Rallies, walkout
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  • And an economic blackout aimed at issues like workers rights,
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  • Educational funding, opposition to certain policies
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  • And basically anything anti-trump.
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  • Okay, but this made a lot of news
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  • Because over 20 school districts, mostly the largest
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  • Ones in the country, participated in this walkout.
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  • They claimed
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  • It was because there were not going to be, teachers
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  • And administrators there to take care of the students.
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  • But then you find out a lot of these students
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  • Are getting bused to the protests directly.
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  • So there was a full effort to get young people,
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  • High schoolers
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  • That don't know what the heck they're talking about,
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  • Candidly, about most of these issues,
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  • The hold up anti-trump signs, anti ice signs,
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  • And to just basically take a day off of school.
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  • And there you can see them right there.
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  • This, street journalist, nate friedman
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  • Followed his work a little bit,
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  • And he does, some fantastic street interviews.
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  • Here's top five.
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  • Yeah, we see kids getting off the bus right now.
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  • These kids are being bused in to protest
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  • The united states of america.
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  • Our kids are being brought to the protest here today.
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  • Our students,
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  • We have around 2000, a little over 2000, 2000 kids.
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  • How many different schools?
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  • Oh, my gosh, there's a lot of them.
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  • You know, evil never sleeps.
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  • And the second you think you're
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  • Making progress in the country in any way shape or form,
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  • You've got these people that will continually pump millions,
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  • If not more tens of millions into indoctrinating young,
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  • Young kids to go protest what they don't even know.
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  • I mean, for a lot of you out there, the easiest comparison
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  • If someone told you you can't go to church anymore,
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  • You can't be christian anymore, how would you react to it?
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  • That is the frame you need to think of
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  • For a lot of these people in terms
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  • Of doing left wing marches, doing left wing politics,
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  • It really is their religion. it is.
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  • It really is their religion. it is.
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  • We've got sean davis,
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  • Co-founder of the federalist, ceo, the federalist.
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  • One of the go to spots to get your news and analysis.
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  • Sean, welcome back to the show.
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  • Great to be back.
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  • Thank you for having me.
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  • Yeah, i mean, i was telling you,
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  • I've got some sort of stomach bug.
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  • And apparently it's going around your family, too.
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  • So as miserable as i am today, i can just say stay healthy.
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  • You know, hug your wife, hug your kids.
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  • But maybe just not right now.
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  • That's all i'm said.
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  • And like, hey, take care of yourself.
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  • Shut.
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  • Anyways, going to give you guys an update.
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  • And, sean, i think it's going to roll
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  • Into our first topic here.
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  • Trump vows iran will be blown off the face of the earth
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  • If they intervene in project freedom.
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  • Obviously, president
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  • Trump over the weekend said, project
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  • Freedom, we're going to be
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  • Escorting ships through the strait,
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  • You know, countries
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  • That have nothing to do with the conflict,
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  • That are victims of circumstance.
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  • Iran has now, it seems, responded
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  • With strikes over at the uae, apparently five missiles
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  • At this point, i don't think anything's landed, but,
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  • A drone did, cause a fire at, at one facility.
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  • Now we're getting told by centcom that u.s.
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  • Forces have sunk
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  • Six iranian small boats near the strait of hormuz.
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  • And it seems to be directly,
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  • Trying to challenge operation freedom.
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  • It says,
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  • Centcom commander admiral brad cooper said on the call
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  • That iran historically
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  • Has deployed between 20 and 40 small boats
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  • When harassing vessels in the strait.
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  • Today, we saw just six and eliminated them quickly.
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  • The question is, you know, i guess more of a political one
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  • Because you're a political animal here, sean.
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  • It's what does this mean for the president's,
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  • Aspirations here in iran?
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  • If we're trying to escort ships through the strait that are,
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  • You know, third party, neutral third party country vessels,
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  • And iran is still trying to act like they have military
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  • Control of the strait.
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  • Yeah,
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  • It's a real problem because we're in this kind of like,
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  • Seems like we're at war, but kind of not really at war.
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  • I would liken it to you're in the backseat
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  • With the sibling,
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  • On a road trip playing the not touching, can't get mad game
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  • So to not take your parents off, but, like,
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  • Not enough for them to go back there
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  • And stop the car and turn this thing around.
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  • It's just like a very low level of annoying.
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  • And it's a good analogy.
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  • It'll be unhelpful.
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  • So what i'm here for.
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  • Yeah.
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  • And and and so it but it creates a situation where
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  • We can't really say the war's over.
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  • The war's done because we're
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  • The ramifications of the strait being completely jacked up.
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  • Is it?
  • 00:10:42.360 --> 00:10:43.295
  • Gas is still ridiculously unaffordable.
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  • You know where i am.
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  • It's it's north of $4 a gallon, and that's at sam's club,
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  • By the way, which is usually 10%
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  • To 20% cheaper than everywhere else.
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  • It's a real, real problem for the midterms,
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  • Especially when, number one, you ran on lowering gas prices
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  • And making things, affordable.
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  • And then two, you ran on
  • 00:11:03.849 --> 00:11:05.150
  • Getting the economy back up and running.
  • 00:11:05.150 --> 00:11:06.685
  • And the thing about really high fuel and energy prices
  • 00:11:06.685 --> 00:11:10.388
  • Is that it flows through everything.
  • 00:11:10.388 --> 00:11:12.457
  • It makes everything more expensive.
  • 00:11:12.457 --> 00:11:14.025
  • Fertilizers, more expensive, weed killers, more expensive.
  • 00:11:14.025 --> 00:11:16.795
  • Shipping is more expensive.
  • 00:11:16.795 --> 00:11:18.230
  • So it means food.
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  • Everything that has to get delivered is more expensive.
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  • Everyone knows it.
  • 00:11:21.633 --> 00:11:23.001
  • And so, you know, my view is the sooner we get
  • 00:11:23.001 --> 00:11:25.837
  • This thing wrapped up, the better.
  • 00:11:25.837 --> 00:11:27.205
  • The problem is, starting wars is easy
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  • And ending them is really difficult
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  • Because the enemy gets a vote and when it's over in
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  • Iran has apparently just decided it's
  • 00:11:34.646 --> 00:11:36.848
  • Going to play the not touching, can't get mad game
  • 00:11:36.848 --> 00:11:38.717
  • For as long as it feels like it can sustain it.
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  • And hope that maybe they'll get a new congress
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  • Or maybe they'll get a new president in a couple of years,
  • 00:11:43.922 --> 00:11:46.158
  • And then they'll get everything they wanted
  • 00:11:46.158 --> 00:11:47.659
  • In the first place, probably including nukes.
  • 00:11:47.659 --> 00:11:49.828
  • So we're in this weird like, stale stalemate
  • 00:11:49.828 --> 00:11:53.198
  • Waiting game of, you know, fake chicken going on.
  • 00:11:53.198 --> 00:11:56.401
  • And i honestly, at this point, i just don't see how it ends.
  • 00:11:56.401 --> 00:11:59.771
  • In terms of the political costs that it's exacting,
  • 00:11:59.771 --> 00:12:03.208
  • Do you think what's worse, what's bigger,
  • 00:12:03.208 --> 00:12:06.444
  • The sense of the direct costs, which is that,
  • 00:12:06.444 --> 00:12:10.749
  • As you say, gas prices are higher.
  • 00:12:10.749 --> 00:12:12.250
  • There seems to be some economic stuff. stuff.
  • 00:12:12.250 --> 00:12:14.719
  • The war has not been going great.
  • 00:12:14.719 --> 00:12:16.321
  • And if it started to go great
  • 00:12:16.321 --> 00:12:17.455
  • Or if it ended, it would recede.
  • 00:12:17.455 --> 00:12:19.090
  • Versus another trend that i think we've seen,
  • 00:12:19.090 --> 00:12:21.726
  • Which is people who just feel
  • 00:12:21.726 --> 00:12:23.428
  • I voted for trump because i thought he would not
  • 00:12:23.428 --> 00:12:26.898
  • Go to war with iran.
  • 00:12:26.898 --> 00:12:27.899
  • I thought he was a peace president
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  • Who would avoid conflict,
  • 00:12:29.668 --> 00:12:30.769
  • And they feel let down over this, betrayed over this.
  • 00:12:30.769 --> 00:12:34.439
  • And those people conceivably might not come back
  • 00:12:34.439 --> 00:12:37.509
  • Even if the regime collapsed tomorrow.
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  • How do you feel about that question?
  • 00:12:39.177 --> 00:12:41.479
  • Yeah, i feel like those are like kind of
  • 00:12:41.479 --> 00:12:42.948
  • Two different groups.
  • 00:12:42.948 --> 00:12:44.249
  • I think you definitely had people
  • 00:12:44.249 --> 00:12:45.650
  • Who are ideologically motivated or who
  • 00:12:45.650 --> 00:12:47.619
  • Maybe hadn't been politically involved,
  • 00:12:47.619 --> 00:12:49.287
  • But they thought that trump was going to be the guy
  • 00:12:49.287 --> 00:12:50.922
  • To come in to be different and clean stuff up,
  • 00:12:50.922 --> 00:12:53.024
  • Whether it's epstein, no more wars, whatever.
  • 00:12:53.024 --> 00:12:55.861
  • I think this has done significant damage.
  • 00:12:56.728 --> 00:13:00.465
  • Perhaps irreparable damage for trump among that group of,
  • 00:13:00.465 --> 00:13:04.302
  • I would say, probably under 30 men,
  • 00:13:04.302 --> 00:13:06.371
  • Not particularly that involved in politics,
  • 00:13:06.371 --> 00:13:09.207
  • Who were super jacked up for him.
  • 00:13:09.207 --> 00:13:11.343
  • They were they were probably more excited
  • 00:13:11.343 --> 00:13:12.677
  • To vote for him than anyone.
  • 00:13:12.677 --> 00:13:14.012
  • They thought things were going to be different.
  • 00:13:14.012 --> 00:13:15.914
  • Now, i think that group is totally disillusioned.
  • 00:13:15.914 --> 00:13:19.217
  • I don't think they're going to go vote for democrats.
  • 00:13:19.217 --> 00:13:21.319
  • I think they're just going to go back to not caring anymore.
  • 00:13:21.319 --> 00:13:24.122
  • So i think that was very damaging there.
  • 00:13:24.122 --> 00:13:27.525
  • I think the other group of voters you talked about,
  • 00:13:27.525 --> 00:13:30.629
  • I think they can come back now.
  • 00:13:30.629 --> 00:13:32.430
  • I don't think the war is suddenly going
  • 00:13:32.430 --> 00:13:34.065
  • To get more popular.
  • 00:13:34.065 --> 00:13:35.400
  • That's generally not how these things work.
  • 00:13:35.400 --> 00:13:37.903
  • They start out super popular.
  • 00:13:37.903 --> 00:13:39.404
  • Everyone rallies around the flag,
  • 00:13:39.404 --> 00:13:41.273
  • And then if you win, that's great.
  • 00:13:41.273 --> 00:13:43.408
  • We move on.
  • 00:13:43.408 --> 00:13:44.509
  • I feel like desert storm was a really good, version
  • 00:13:44.509 --> 00:13:47.212
  • Of this, example of it back in 1991.
  • 00:13:47.212 --> 00:13:50.315
  • Now, george h.w.
  • 00:13:50.315 --> 00:13:51.449
  • Bush ended up losing because of the economy,
  • 00:13:51.449 --> 00:13:53.318
  • And he had this charismatic
  • 00:13:53.318 --> 00:13:54.619
  • Upstart from the south and bill clinton.
  • 00:13:54.619 --> 00:13:57.055
  • So i don't think the war is going to become more popular.
  • 00:13:57.055 --> 00:13:59.591
  • I think the best case at this scenario
  • 00:13:59.591 --> 00:14:02.093
  • Is that it just kind of evaporates from the memory.
  • 00:14:02.093 --> 00:14:05.096
  • People can get back to normal.
  • 00:14:05.096 --> 00:14:06.798
  • They don't really think about it anymore.
  • 00:14:06.798 --> 00:14:08.600
  • And then we're back to normal.
  • 00:14:08.600 --> 00:14:09.901
  • So i think that's the best case scenario.
  • 00:14:09.901 --> 00:14:12.070
  • I was very, very hopeful after that
  • 00:14:12.070 --> 00:14:14.239
  • Presidential primetime address from trump a couple weeks ago
  • 00:14:14.239 --> 00:14:17.342
  • That this thing was getting wrapped
  • 00:14:17.342 --> 00:14:18.576
  • Up, that we were going to get gas prices down quickly.
  • 00:14:18.576 --> 00:14:21.146
  • That didn't look like it was the case.
  • 00:14:21.980 --> 00:14:23.682
  • It seems to just be lingering on like a nasty stomach bug.
  • 00:14:23.682 --> 00:14:27.852
  • Yeah.
  • 00:14:28.086 --> 00:14:29.187
  • Gosh, why do you got to wake up, bring that up shop?
  • 00:14:29.187 --> 00:14:30.956
  • You know, those are the two, i would say
  • 00:14:30.956 --> 00:14:34.960
  • Constants that i hear, sean, is that nothing's changed.
  • 00:14:34.960 --> 00:14:38.263
  • It feels like the same old, same old.
  • 00:14:38.263 --> 00:14:39.564
  • They voted for president trump thinking that things
  • 00:14:39.564 --> 00:14:41.700
  • Were going to be
  • 00:14:41.700 --> 00:14:42.701
  • Vastly different, that there was going to be
  • 00:14:42.701 --> 00:14:44.402
  • This economic revival and, golden age.
  • 00:14:44.402 --> 00:14:48.540
  • And that just doesn't seem
  • 00:14:48.540 --> 00:14:50.041
  • For most people to have materialized.
  • 00:14:50.041 --> 00:14:51.876
  • Right. it's energy costs are high now.
  • 00:14:51.876 --> 00:14:54.312
  • You have health care costs remain high,
  • 00:14:54.312 --> 00:14:56.781
  • Affordability, housing, all these things.
  • 00:14:56.781 --> 00:14:59.384
  • Ultimately, i think that is the the silver bullet here is
  • 00:14:59.384 --> 00:15:02.954
  • If you could if you could get the the economy back
  • 00:15:02.954 --> 00:15:06.925
  • Rip roaring to and it seems like that becomes
  • 00:15:06.925 --> 00:15:10.662
  • Then this, our albatross, a, albatross across the,
  • 00:15:10.662 --> 00:15:14.933
  • The neck of the united states and as a republican party,
  • 00:15:14.933 --> 00:15:18.269
  • Is that the strait of hormuz being closed
  • 00:15:18.269 --> 00:15:20.105
  • Is simply going to be a drag on everything.
  • 00:15:20.105 --> 00:15:22.974
  • So can you have one without the other?
  • 00:15:22.974 --> 00:15:25.643
  • I really don't think you can.
  • 00:15:26.277 --> 00:15:27.612
  • I think that thing has to get wrapped up.
  • 00:15:27.612 --> 00:15:29.547
  • Again, with energy prices and availability being the
  • 00:15:29.547 --> 00:15:33.551
  • Foundation of economy, there's no short term fix to that.
  • 00:15:33.551 --> 00:15:36.921
  • Now, obviously over time, if we do a lot more development
  • 00:15:36.921 --> 00:15:40.825
  • Here, you know, we,
  • 00:15:40.825 --> 00:15:41.693
  • We take the,
  • 00:15:41.693 --> 00:15:42.527
  • The handcuffs off energy developers
  • 00:15:42.527 --> 00:15:44.829
  • And let them go to town in america.
  • 00:15:44.829 --> 00:15:46.464
  • Over time, i think the strait of hormuz
  • 00:15:46.464 --> 00:15:48.400
  • Will probably end up being economically irrelevant
  • 00:15:48.400 --> 00:15:50.969
  • For the united states.
  • 00:15:50.969 --> 00:15:52.337
  • That's not something that's going to happen
  • 00:15:52.337 --> 00:15:53.938
  • Before november.
  • 00:15:53.938 --> 00:15:54.773
  • It's not going to happen before 2028.
  • 00:15:54.773 --> 00:15:56.674
  • That takes years and years and years to happen.
  • 00:15:56.674 --> 00:15:59.244
  • And it takes a certain amount
  • 00:15:59.244 --> 00:16:00.612
  • Of consistency in government and and political leadership.
  • 00:16:00.612 --> 00:16:03.415
  • So i think the only solution at this point
  • 00:16:03.415 --> 00:16:06.184
  • Is that the iran war, just like the street, needs to be fixed
  • 00:16:06.184 --> 00:16:09.721
  • And we need to be out there.
  • 00:16:09.721 --> 00:16:10.922
  • And then trump can be laser
  • 00:16:10.922 --> 00:16:12.457
  • Focused on the economy and making things affordable,
  • 00:16:12.457 --> 00:16:14.826
  • Which we know he can do
  • 00:16:14.826 --> 00:16:15.894
  • Because he did it during the first term.
  • 00:16:15.894 --> 00:16:17.796
  • All right, sean davis, stay right there.
  • 00:16:18.663 --> 00:16:21.099
  • We got another segment with you, but,
  • 00:16:21.099 --> 00:16:23.868
  • You know, maybe we can we can get some some positivity
  • 00:16:23.868 --> 00:16:26.805
  • Injected into the show.
  • 00:16:26.805 --> 00:16:28.173
  • I'm not sure.
  • 00:16:28.173 --> 00:16:29.240
  • But, man, the economy is central.
  • 00:16:29.240 --> 00:16:31.810
  • It really just is central.
  • 00:16:31.810 --> 00:16:33.111
  • I've been hearing this from voters all over the place.
  • 00:16:33.111 --> 00:16:38.000
  • I've been hearing this from voters all over the place.
  • 00:16:38.000 --> 00:16:43.328
  • Sean davis, co-founder
  • 00:16:43.795 --> 00:16:45.831
  • Of the federal ceo of the federalist,
  • 00:16:45.831 --> 00:16:47.599
  • One of the go to spots for your news and analysis,
  • 00:16:47.599 --> 00:16:50.502
  • Independent conservative media is just so important.
  • 00:16:50.502 --> 00:16:53.405
  • And they do it right.
  • 00:16:53.405 --> 00:16:54.606
  • I did a quick scan over the break.
  • 00:16:54.606 --> 00:16:57.209
  • Sean. and everything.
  • 00:16:57.209 --> 00:16:59.111
  • I mean, everything from citizen
  • 00:16:59.111 --> 00:17:00.412
  • Free press to drudge to bright bar to you guys.
  • 00:17:00.412 --> 00:17:03.215
  • It's all about the strikes, that are happening.
  • 00:17:03.215 --> 00:17:06.051
  • Everybody's fearing that
  • 00:17:06.051 --> 00:17:07.152
  • This is going to really destabilize global markets.
  • 00:17:07.152 --> 00:17:10.655
  • It's going to get us back into a war.
  • 00:17:10.655 --> 00:17:13.091
  • Kinetic war.
  • 00:17:13.091 --> 00:17:14.226
  • It's it's tough to overstate.
  • 00:17:14.226 --> 00:17:17.496
  • It feels like we've been waiting on this
  • 00:17:17.496 --> 00:17:19.197
  • For a while, and nobody's
  • 00:17:19.197 --> 00:17:20.465
  • We haven't seen
  • 00:17:20.465 --> 00:17:21.500
  • Any big headlines for a couple of weeks, really,
  • 00:17:21.500 --> 00:17:23.001
  • Since the blockade was announced.
  • 00:17:23.001 --> 00:17:24.970
  • The question is, politically,
  • 00:17:24.970 --> 00:17:28.006
  • Do you think that there is a way to pivot this
  • 00:17:28.006 --> 00:17:31.309
  • For the president to make a win out of this?
  • 00:17:31.309 --> 00:17:33.778
  • I just
  • 00:17:33.778 --> 00:17:35.046
  • I want to give somebody people
  • 00:17:35.046 --> 00:17:36.314
  • Hope really is kind of what i'm getting at,
  • 00:17:36.314 --> 00:17:38.083
  • Because right now
  • 00:17:38.083 --> 00:17:39.251
  • The generic polling shows us down about 5 or 6 points,
  • 00:17:39.251 --> 00:17:42.020
  • Which is not so bad, least not so bad.
  • 00:17:42.020 --> 00:17:43.989
  • There's less there's less swing districts.
  • 00:17:43.989 --> 00:17:45.891
  • And there ever has been before.
  • 00:17:45.891 --> 00:17:47.125
  • We've got this,
  • 00:17:47.125 --> 00:17:48.193
  • Voting rights act gutting that happened
  • 00:17:48.193 --> 00:17:50.629
  • By the supreme court.
  • 00:17:50.629 --> 00:17:51.796
  • A bunch of states are going to be redoing their maps.
  • 00:17:51.796 --> 00:17:53.665
  • Where's the hope? i suppose?
  • 00:17:53.665 --> 00:17:56.067
  • Oh, man, there's always hope.
  • 00:17:56.701 --> 00:17:58.069
  • I mean, we've got,
  • 00:17:58.069 --> 00:17:59.304
  • What, six months roughly, which is an eternity in politics.
  • 00:17:59.304 --> 00:18:03.542
  • We have trump has done a ton of amazing stuff,
  • 00:18:03.542 --> 00:18:06.611
  • Like the border is completely secured.
  • 00:18:06.611 --> 00:18:09.447
  • Excuse me?
  • 00:18:09.748 --> 00:18:12.651
  • He's going after completely fraudulent places like sdlc.
  • 00:18:12.651 --> 00:18:15.754
  • We're finally
  • 00:18:15.754 --> 00:18:16.855
  • Getting some accountability for russiagate hoaxers.
  • 00:18:16.855 --> 00:18:19.124
  • I think very, very good things are happening, with trump.
  • 00:18:19.124 --> 00:18:23.128
  • And so i don't think it's all bad news,
  • 00:18:23.128 --> 00:18:25.397
  • Especially when you consider we still have six months.
  • 00:18:25.397 --> 00:18:27.632
  • I think the pivot just has to be
  • 00:18:27.632 --> 00:18:29.701
  • We got to end stuff over there.
  • 00:18:29.701 --> 00:18:31.336
  • They need to figure out the straight
  • 00:18:31.336 --> 00:18:32.571
  • So that iran is not
  • 00:18:32.571 --> 00:18:33.405
  • Just taking pot shots
  • 00:18:33.405 --> 00:18:34.539
  • At everyone and grinding the global economy, to a halt.
  • 00:18:34.539 --> 00:18:38.210
  • And then we're actually off to the races.
  • 00:18:38.210 --> 00:18:40.412
  • And i think it's the best news, actually,
  • 00:18:40.412 --> 00:18:43.281
  • For us as republicans
  • 00:18:43.281 --> 00:18:44.749
  • Is that we're running against democrats.
  • 00:18:44.749 --> 00:18:46.985
  • This party is absolutely insane.
  • 00:18:46.985 --> 00:18:50.388
  • Their big guy right now,
  • 00:18:50.388 --> 00:18:52.023
  • The guy they're really excited about, is a candidate in maine
  • 00:18:52.023 --> 00:18:54.926
  • Who had a nazi tattoo on his chest, which is just
  • 00:18:54.926 --> 00:18:58.730
  • You could
  • 00:18:59.030 --> 00:19:00.265
  • If you put that in a writers room, they would make you leave
  • 00:19:00.265 --> 00:19:02.200
  • Because it's a little too on the nose.
  • 00:19:02.200 --> 00:19:03.969
  • But we have democrats just being super excited
  • 00:19:03.969 --> 00:19:06.471
  • About a dude with a nazi tattoo.
  • 00:19:06.471 --> 00:19:08.540
  • They're not running on anything other
  • 00:19:08.540 --> 00:19:11.176
  • Than, hey, we're not trump, we're not republicans.
  • 00:19:11.176 --> 00:19:13.411
  • So i think if republicans in congress and i actually think
  • 00:19:13.411 --> 00:19:16.982
  • They're the biggest impediment right now to republicans
  • 00:19:16.982 --> 00:19:20.285
  • In congress getting returned to congress,
  • 00:19:20.285 --> 00:19:22.354
  • It's not trump, it's republicans.
  • 00:19:22.354 --> 00:19:24.456
  • If they can get in there and get their act in gear
  • 00:19:24.456 --> 00:19:26.691
  • And pass the safe america act,
  • 00:19:26.691 --> 00:19:28.226
  • I think you will have a ton of base enthusiasm.
  • 00:19:28.226 --> 00:19:30.462
  • You'll know the elections are secure.
  • 00:19:30.462 --> 00:19:32.264
  • You know they're not going to get robbed
  • 00:19:32.264 --> 00:19:33.665
  • By completely bogus mail-in voting or mass illegal voting.
  • 00:19:33.665 --> 00:19:37.302
  • So i don't think it's all bad news at all.
  • 00:19:37.302 --> 00:19:39.271
  • I think we have a
  • 00:19:39.271 --> 00:19:40.405
  • Ton of options in front of us for winning this thing.
  • 00:19:40.405 --> 00:19:43.308
  • Sean, what about
  • 00:19:43.308 --> 00:19:44.743
  • I think you're right about the save america
  • 00:19:44.743 --> 00:19:46.311
  • Act being an enthusiasm boost.
  • 00:19:46.311 --> 00:19:47.879
  • If we can get that over the line,
  • 00:19:47.879 --> 00:19:49.247
  • I don't see a lot of hope
  • 00:19:49.247 --> 00:19:50.248
  • For it outside of maybe a reconciliation pass
  • 00:19:50.248 --> 00:19:54.319
  • If they can figure out how to get that
  • 00:19:54.319 --> 00:19:55.520
  • Through the senate parliament parliamentarian.
  • 00:19:55.520 --> 00:19:57.255
  • But what about mass deportations?
  • 00:19:57.255 --> 00:19:59.958
  • And now if you go
  • 00:19:59.958 --> 00:20:00.959
  • And talk to your average like base activists,
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  • They'll they'll say something
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  • And you see this on x or whatever,
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  • You know, now we don't even get mass deportations
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  • Or whatever.
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  • You talk to tom homan, he disagrees with you on that.
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  • But what is your feeling
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  • About the administration's posture towards that?
  • 00:20:13.271 --> 00:20:16.975
  • I'm a big believer that we need to keep hammering,
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  • That i don't care that it riles up the left.
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  • It also riles up our base.
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  • And this is a turnout election.
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  • And so we want mass deportations.
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  • There's way too many illegals in this country.
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  • What's your take on that?
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  • And do you see the are you concerned
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  • That the administration is wavering in their stance?
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  • I think
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  • There's definitely an internal battle going on.
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  • Within the administration.
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  • I think home in has always been representative of the
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  • Let's get rid of the worst of the worst type,
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  • Point of view, i think stephen miller, probably,
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  • Greg bovino, who's no longer there.
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  • I think we're probably among the.
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  • No, no, no, if they're illegal, they all need to go
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  • Point of view.
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  • So i think the battle is there is still going on.
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  • I think the numbers need to go up.
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  • So, so whether you look at it and you're like,
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  • Well, we've had too many mass
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  • Deportations or the optics are bad,
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  • The numbers need to go up. okay.
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  • So america does not belong
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  • To people who came here illegally
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  • To people who are getting illegal benefits,
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  • To people who are driving up housing costs,
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  • To people who are driving up food cost.
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  • America does not belong to them.
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  • It belongs to americans in their posterity.
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  • So i think whatever is required to get those numbers up,
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  • We in the base should be demanding.
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  • I mean, i remember watching that convention in 2024
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  • And seeing the signs that said mass deportations.
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  • Now, that was a big part of of trump's,
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  • Poll. the immigration stuff
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  • Has always been kind of his north star.
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  • Even going back to before 2015,
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  • Before he was ever running for president.
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  • This was a guy who wanted better
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  • Trade deals and he wanted the illegals out of america.
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  • And so i don't think the battle is over.
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  • For that within the administration.
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  • I do think kind of the home in let's focus
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  • On the worst of the worst.
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  • I think it that side does have the upper hand at the moment.
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  • Do you do you get any indication
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  • On where secretary boland stands in this?
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  • Oh, i think he's a problem.
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  • I think he's a problem.
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  • I never in a million years thought i would say this,
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  • Because i was not a big fan of her at all.
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  • I think noam was a better dhs secretary.
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  • I think she was a better fit for it.
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  • Mullen.
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  • Unfortunately, i think he's a little squishy on it.
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  • I don't think he's
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  • Particularly concerned with mass deportation.
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  • He probably sides a lot more,
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  • You know,
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  • With the so-called business community
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  • That just wants cheap, free labor.
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  • So i think bowling's a problem.
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  • Absolutely. this is from and wokeness.
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  • And he did a graph comparing estimated illegal population
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  • Per state, which is that, purplish blue bar.
  • 00:22:43.755 --> 00:22:47.459
  • And then the red bar is trump's 2024 margin of victory.
  • 00:22:47.459 --> 00:22:50.862
  • So if you look at texas,
  • 00:22:50.862 --> 00:22:52.630
  • This is why we need mass deportations.
  • 00:22:52.630 --> 00:22:54.199
  • You've got 2.9 million illegals.
  • 00:22:54.199 --> 00:22:56.601
  • Trump won that state by 1.5 million votes.
  • 00:22:56.601 --> 00:22:59.471
  • In florida.
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  • There's 1.5 million illegals.
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  • Trump won that state by 1.4 million.
  • 00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:04.676
  • So in state after state,
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  • Georgia, north carolina, arizona, pennsylvania, nevada,
  • 00:23:06.110 --> 00:23:09.647
  • There are far more illegal immigrants in those states
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  • Then trump's margin of victory.
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  • And if you want to see what their
  • 00:23:14.452 --> 00:23:16.054
  • The democrats plans are and one single graph,
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  • That's the graph.
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  • Sean davis from the federalist. thank you, my friend.
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  • We'll have you on again soon.
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