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Charlie Kirk Today | Sen. Mike Lee: June 24, 2026 | Charlie Kirk Today | June 24, 2026

We want to talk about elections.
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There's a lot of talk about how america does its elections.
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Kamala harris is coming out against the electoral
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College jamiel hill saying it's rooted in slavery.
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These are lies.
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They are stupid. that's okay.
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But it's also democrat judges,
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And they're blocking commonsense reforms
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To make our elections more secure.
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Now, our elections
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Are basically a joke the way they are currently run.
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It's based on the honor system and a country with millions
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And millions of immigrants, both illegal and illegal.
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That is a dumb thing to do.
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Now, this most recent example comes from and i'm not making
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This name up, district judge sparkle sook nan un.
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Yes, judge sparkle, just just how the visioned it.
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District judge sparkle sook nan, an apology.
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Former president joe biden
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Said officials
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Across numerous government agencies haphazardly,
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Quote, combined and repurposed the private information
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Of millions of americans, including citizenship data
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That they knew to be unreliable and, quote,
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In order to comply with
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President trump's march executive order
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Attempting to overhaul federal elections.
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So once again, we have a district judge
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Appointed by a democrat in this case, joe biden,
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Blocking a foreigner in elections from trinidad,
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Judge sparkle from trinidad, a country known
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To be the most
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Wonderful representative of democracy in the world.
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So it's a, again, a biden appointee.
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She didn't fully strike down the order, but she issued
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A 75 page ruling that blocked and set aside trump
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The trump administration's overhaul of the same system,
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Which is a systemic alien verification for entitlement.
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Well, yeah.
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So what it is is,
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First of all, a part of what's at the root of
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This is you need to be a citizen to vote.
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And yet,
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Bafflingly enough,
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We don't have a central database
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In the us that just says, here is everyone who's
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A citizen of the united states.
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You go check it, be who you think we should.
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And so the trump administration
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Has been trying to build the so save that system
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Originally existed to check
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If you're eligible for in various federal benefits.
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Because if you're a foreign
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Born and all that, you shouldn't
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And they're trying to repurpose
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This so that they can detect likely ineligible people,
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You don't they don't just flag you and ping it and say,
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You have to take this person off the voter rolls.
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They'd ping it and say,
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This person might not be a citizen
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Because they're registering, is not eligible
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For these programs,
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And they've run millions of people through these.
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And i think they found about 20, 20, 1000,
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Potential non-citizens through this.
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And some people are saying, well, i'm a citizen.
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And they caught me with this.
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And so this judge is saying it's it's
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Intruding on your property, on your privacy rights,
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On your privacy rights for the federal government
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To use your federal information,
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Your social security number,
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Your eligibility for federal programs.
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It's illegal for the federal government
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To use that to check if you can be a voter.
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And it gets at the root of this insanity.
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Here we have this foreign judge sparql come in and say
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Nana sook.
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Not on say it violates the law.
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Probably the constitution
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For the federal government to use your information
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That you use to interact with the government
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To see if you can vote
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For who runs the government and makes the government's laws.
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And the deeper truth here,
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Which we all have to highlight, is ultimately
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They will always find this excuse because the democrats,
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They can't articulate a justified reason to check
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Whether someone's a citizen,
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They want it to run on the honor system,
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And they want it to run
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On the honor system to enable dishonorable behavior
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Because they have no honor, actually.
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So let's just like
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Lay out the facts of what
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This march executive order that president trump signed does.
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So it creates state citizenship lists,
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Directs the department of homeland
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Security, uscis, and social
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And the social security administration
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To compile and send each state a list of confirmed u.s.
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Citizens.
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All right,
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Then it has restrictions on mail in and absentee
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Ballot restrictions.
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So it instructs the postal service,
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The usps, to create a mail in and absentee
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Participation list of verified eligible voters.
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Okay. that's it.
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Now, you might say, well, andrew, the constitution
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Dictates that the states run their elections
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And how and the manner of which.
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Well, yes, that's true, but the federal government
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Gets to dictate how the federal elections are run.
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So it's a they are pushing back on this based on notions
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Of federalism and separation of federal and state authority.
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But that's garbage, actually.
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Now, on some level,
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You need
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The states to administer a federal election
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Because we have a federal system.
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But the states answer to the federal government.
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All right. it's the supremacy clause.
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So i completely disagree with this.
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And to blake's point,
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They will always find a legal rationale
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To block it if they want to block it,
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Not because the law instructs them to,
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But because they are fundamentally against this.
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Now consider the irony of a foreigner
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Telling americans
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How to do their election. out of that,
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We had that we can't enforce citizenship test.
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We had another foreign judge, the other,
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Whose ruling was upheld yesterday that
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Trump administration
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Can't block snap benefits from being spent on junk food.
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Well, that was, i believe a korean born judge
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Ruled on that one, but.
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And that makes approximately zero sense.
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Of course. of course.
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We elected our representatives and they have made a decision
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About how do you snap benefits, and they should be
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Given that authority.
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That's the way the system works with
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The representative government.
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And the deeper thing here is if they're not going to allow
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The federal government
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To check this, they're essentially
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Saying states
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Should have the exclusive
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Authority to decide if someone's a citizen.
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And one of the problems here is not just that democrat
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Run states
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Don't want to check this,
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But they're willing to do more sinister behavior.
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A lot of these states, they want to create a system,
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For example, where your driver's license
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Can be a presumptive proof of citizenship.
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And yet blue states will just give a full driver's license.
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Of course, you an illegal immigrant.
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We're getting very close to the point
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Where i think a sufficiently gutsy person
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Could just go out and say, i am a citizen.
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And here's all the proof that i got this from
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The california state government,
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And they basically just make themself a citizen
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Without ever actually being naturalized.
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Well, and here's
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Where this ties into a debate that's ongoing.
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Now that kamala harris,
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Of all people, sparked by saying it's time
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To get rid of the electoral college now,
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We'll play the clip
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And we'll
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Continue on explaining why this is a really terrible idea.
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But here, here it is, in her own words, 39
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I think that there is so real shaking up
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That we have to do of the rules and the structure,
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And is that get rid of the electoral college?
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I think we should
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That should be a discussion that we should have.
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I don't think we should eliminate that
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As a point of, of, of discussion
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For potential action.
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She was like such a misdirect.
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I don't think we should eliminate that as like,
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Wait, is the clip wrong?
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And then she goes, as a point of discussion,
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After her brain cooked, for a few more.
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She's very she's a very articulate woman.
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That's why she was the completely natural
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And organic choice for the party to run in 2024.
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So, to blake's point, you've got states like california
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That are basically going, hey, just trust us, bro.
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These are all citizens
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And they want to get rid
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Of the electoral college, which actually limits
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The ability of that state to impact a national election.
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Because if they all get equal votes and illegal
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Aliens can vote just the same as a citizen, well, guess what?
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California could swing the entire nation.
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California could swing the entire nation.
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We have outlined
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A foreign judge has blocked a common sense reform
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To running federal elections, that it's an
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Eo that president trump signed in march.
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And it creates a database of known citizens.
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You would think a country, a first world
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Country would know it's who its citizens are.
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But this foreign born judge, judge
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Sparkle, has said, no, no, no, no, can't do that.
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And so here we are now,
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Also running simultaneously
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Is this debate that is happening on the left
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About abolishing the electoral college.
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So what is that debate and where did it come from?
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Well, jamiel hill
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Thinks it came from slavery, which is insane.
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Clip 28.
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Anybody who studied any small bit of history knows
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The electoral college is rooted in slavery,
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And that was the entire reason that it was invented,
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Essentially. and we should have gotten
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From up under it a long time ago.
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And not just because you have two women
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Quite capable, who lose the election.
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The two two women,
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Quite capable, quite quick, i would say.
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I would say hillary clinton was at least formidable.
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Like i could have seen her becoming a politician,
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You know, even if she probably didn't.
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Mary. bill, kamala.
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Not quite capable, not not formidable.
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Kamala, i could explain kamala harris's rise.
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Really simple.
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They thought she was the
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Female obama because she's mixed race
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And kind of,
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You know, from california to harris, that was it.
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Kamala harris was candidate by committee where they go, oh,
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What would the ideal presidential candidate be like?
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Well, she's like the candidate we want.
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Yeah i generally couldn't talk big blue state
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The right demographic boxes.
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You know, we can make anyone a good candidate
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With enough money and effort and advisers.
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Oops oops. that didn't work. didn't work.
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But so this is garbage though, from jamal hill.
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Okay.
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There is a vague connection in the sense
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That the electoral college, the allotment of electoral
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Votes per state, is based on congressional representation.
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And i guess she's going back to the 3/5 compromise
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To, to to do that.
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That's that's not at all what it was.
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This was a protection mechanism that
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Spread power out across the country.
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Remember, the constitution spreads
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Power out over time, over geography
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And over different institutions within the government.
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Okay.
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Now the states are protected
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Like the power of iowa is protected against california
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Because iowa is its own state.
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So it's a compact amongst the states.
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Go ahead.
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In fact, it
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Specifically protects us from what the left has been doing
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In recent history because the left has,
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First of all, they've imported
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A gigantic number of foreigners to prop up their populations,
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And they've made their states increasingly intolerable
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To any ordinary middle class person,
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Which is why they leave
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With new york, which is why the census
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Is reflecting that and will continue to that.
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People are new york, new york and california.
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They have high populations,
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But extremely heavily foreign populations.
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Native born people keep moving out
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And they just keep propping up their population
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With endless importation of more foreigners,
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More foreigners, more foreigners.
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And so we're getting a situation
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Where their ratio of people who can vote
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To overall population is all askew.
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They have a higher number of illegal immigrants,
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A higher number of non-citizen legal immigrants there,
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And they just have these states that they're
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They're intolerable.
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So they're basically one party states.
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So we're getting these states california
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Is going to have like
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This is a 7030 result in every election
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Because they've made it intolerable
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To anyone in the middle.
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New york is going to have these 70, 30 elections, 65, 35.
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Yeah, 65, 35 elections.
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And then what's basically saving
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The country is the broader base,
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All these other states where we're able to just have
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55, 45 results all across the board,
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More spread out across the country,
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And we're able to check they would love
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To get a raw popular vote where they say
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We can run our sketchy
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Election system, we can extend the vote to 16
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Year olds or 14 year olds or ten year olds.
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It doesn't matter
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Because none of our elections are competitive.
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And ballot harvesting and ballot harvest everything.
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Everybody, every ev, every homeless person who
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Is not even aware of what's going on, vote.
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Have every drug addict vote.
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Have every person who's in a nursing home
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And with alzheimer's and actually not aware of
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What's going on, have them vote hoover at all
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Up and it actually decides every national action.
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That's what they want, and that's what they'll get
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If they kill the electoral college.
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Exactly.
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Well, and so they want california, new york
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To determine in chicago to determine the
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National popular vote and choose the president.
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The electoral college is a safeguard against
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The excesses of the left in those blue states.
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And it's just interesting. right.
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So the supreme court just ruled this is breaking news.
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In a63 decision.
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Scotus rules that dhs can strip green card holders and lawful
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Permanent residents of their legal status
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If they leave the country and travel abroad
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While they are facing criminal charges,
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Even if they are just pending and not convicted yet.
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Liberals dissent.
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So here's a great example of a good
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Ruling of obvious commonsense ruling
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From a majority conservative supreme court.
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Contrast that with judge sparql.
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So not only do
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They want to give non-citizens the right to vote,
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They want to do it on the honor system.
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Trust me, bro,
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They don't want us to be able to verify their citizenship.
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Then they want to pack the supreme court.
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This is what kamala harris is calling for.
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She's calling for a no bad ideas meeting.
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Okay, let's just play this clip
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And remind you that she said this to stop 40.
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Say, look, this is a moment where there are no bad ideas, a
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No bad idea brainstorm is what i'd like to call it.
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And in that no bad ideas brainstorm.
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We talk about what we need to do and think about doing
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Around the electoral college.
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We talk about the idea of supreme court
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Reform, which includes expanding the supreme court.
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Let's talk about statehood for puerto rico in d.c.
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These are the things i think that we've got to do.
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We've got to neutralize these red states from cheating,
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Including blue states, expanding their maps.
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And all of this, i think, is is,
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Look, we got to fight fire with fire.
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These folks are playing a win.
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I mean, the crazy thing, i'm just checking the polling
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Because i would have thought
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They always say the person who lost their
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The favorite for the next time around.
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It takes a while to get it
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And i thought, they'll move on from kamala.
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I'm checking the polls.
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Kamala is having kind of an indian summer of polling.
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She was diving.
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She was below newsome. she's rallying.
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She's the number one person in the polls for democrats.
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She's done her whole career.
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She puts her finger to the air and says,
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Which was the wind blowing, i'm going to go that way.
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But that's this is what we're talking about.
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They want to reduce all the checks and balances gets.
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They're cheating.
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And then they have the gall to say
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That that's red states cheating.
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This is a bad idea. brainstorm.
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And that's the whole point.
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Which takes us to why the save act is important.
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Senator mike lee joins us next.
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Senator mike lee joins us next.
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Without further ado, senator
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Mike lee, welcome back to the show, sir.
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It's great to have you.
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Thanks so much, andrew.
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Good to be with you. it's great to be with you.
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So we started the whole show.
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We talked about judge sparkle, you know, the
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The district judge.
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She's getting in the way of trump's march
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Executive order, trying
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To ensure that only citizens are voting, creating this list.
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And she says it violates federalism,
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I guess statutes and privacy laws.
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Okay, whatever.
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Now you've got this save act
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That we, the save america act that
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We have been pushing so hard
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And it's been the whole build
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Up, this show about why it is the critical
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Piece of legislation for this country.
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So let's just start there, senator,
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Because this debate has been going on so long,
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I want people to remember how we got here.
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Why is this so important and why have you been
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Like a dog with a bone?
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Right.
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We need the save america act for a few independent reasons.
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First, because of the national voter registration act 1993,
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Known as the motor voter law, and the way it was interpreted
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A couple decades after its enactment,
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It's now far too easy for non-citizens to register
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To vote
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And subsequently to vote in federal elections,
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Even though federal law prohibits it,
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Because the supreme court
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Wrongly but conclusively interpreted
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That statute is prohibiting the states
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From doing any citizenship verification.
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When somebody registers to vote at a dmv, which,
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Is how most people register to vote these days,
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So we need it for that reason.
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We also, accelerated the need for it with more and
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More states issuing driver's licenses to non-citizens
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And in many cases, even to known illegal aliens.
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With the border being open for four years under president
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Biden, with the fact that we've got now 30 million
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Plus non-citizens in the united states,
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And we've got threats to our election security
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All over the place, as you noted,
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Judge sparql yesterday, in that order.
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Notice what she did.
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She didn't just say, let's make sure
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That non-citizens aren't being removed.
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She said, no, this whole database
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That's maintained in the department of homeland
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Security, known as the safe database,
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Which could be used by the states
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To help clean out their voter registration files and to,
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You know, cross-check to see if they're citizens.
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She ordered the whole thing shut down rather than just
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Trying to make sure that there were safeguards in place
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To protect citizens from being removed.
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So there's an all out assault.
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Meanwhile,
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The election system in place in california has evidence.
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In the last couple of weeks by the la mayors election,
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California still hasn't certified its final outcome
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There.
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There's very few people who i know who
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Look at that and say that bodes well for election
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Security in america.
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We've got to get this done.
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Meanwhile, i really appreciate
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President trump's ongoing efforts
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To keep attention focused on the save america act,
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Because that would make it easy to vote and hard to cheat.
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It would
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Require proof of citizenship to register and photo i.d.
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To vote in federal elections.
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These are common sense requirements that
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Every other modern society has, and in fact, many societies
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That we would regard as less modern.
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My friend and colleague bernie sanders, the senator from
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Ohio, just got back from columbia and columbia.
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They had their elections over the weekend in columbia.
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They have election security measures in place
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That really put ours to shame.
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They make sure that everybody's got a voter id,
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That they've got conclusive proof of citizenship,
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And they've really got clean elections.
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And the great thing is, they knew within an hour
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Of the polls closing who had won the election.
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And they were also able to certify
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With a high degree of confidence
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That non-citizens were not voting.
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So i, i love all of that.
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I think it's so important to
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Just get back to the basics and the 101 here,
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Why we're pushing this so, so hard.
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And it's a big reason why is joe biden was president
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And just letting millions of these people.
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And we're just supposed to trust me, bro. honor system.
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Everything's going to be fine.
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There's no there's no voter fraud.
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Well, if there's no voter fraud, why do you guys care?
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Why are you trying to block this?
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All right, now, here's the next piece in this saga.
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So, there's a piece here.
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It looks like punch bowl.
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You know, there's going to be a president is going to be
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At this meeting, steering meeting in the senate
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Tomorrow, meeting with gop senators.
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And he's going to be pushing this issue.
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You and he are aligned on this issue.
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What can we expect to happen tomorrow?
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Ultimately, that's up to my
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Colleagues, but what i hope comes out of it in the case
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I continue to make, is that we need to do this.
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We need to do everything we possibly can
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To try to get this passed.
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You know, we as part of a late night
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Voter drama about two weeks ago,
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We put the save america act, onto that bill as an amendment.
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It got 50 republican votes.
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We had 51 before senator tillis changed his vote.
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But regardless, even with 50, that means that j.d.
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Vance is vice president of the united states
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Could supply a tie breaking vote
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In a simple majority passage scenario.
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But meanwhile,
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We're stuck with democrats refusing to give us the votes
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For cloture.
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That takes 60 votes to get to cloture.
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Simple majority passage, but 60 votes to force
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Debate to a close.
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And that leaves us with two options.
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If we want to pursue this, which i think we should.
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The first option would be to nuke the filibuster,
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Which involves changing the senate precedent
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So that we could immediately pass it by a simple majority.
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It does not appear
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That we've got support for that,
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Even though i would support that option.
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But the other one,
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Would be to keep the save america act on the floor,
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Keep debating it, and promise to stay on it until it passes,
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Taking away democrats weekends and long scheduled recesses
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Until enough of them are willing to negotiate.
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That's how,
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Filibuster is used to be broken in the past,
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Separate and apart
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From the cloture process, which used to be rare.
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And it's also how the civil rights act got passed.
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We can do it again, especially whereas here
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We've got a bill
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That's a lot more popular with the american people.
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Bennet is among democrats in congress,
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The only group of people for whom this is controversial.
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Yeah.
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Well, listen, i mean, i love both these options.
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And there's
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We're told that it can't pass the reconciliation process
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Because it's not budget related.
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That,
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I mean, that's very in the weeds
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For the average voter out there.
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But okay, let's assume it can't pass the birdbath.
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Okay. the question then becomes
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This issue with thune i'm
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Seeing in punchbowl, you quote tweeted it.
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He's saying, i hope that people on that issue speak up.
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Thune told us, read the filibuster save act
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Because i'm not saying anything
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That isn't a view that would wouldn't be shared
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Or articulated by a lot of my colleagues.
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It's always helpful if others speak up and it's not just me.
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I think what a lot of americans want.
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And i
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Actually do believe that thune if he had the votes, he would
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He would do what he had to do because he knows
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The pressure is on him.
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He knows the pressure is on the president.
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But i think what the american people want,
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Senator, is we want to know who's who,
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Who are the other senators that are fighting us on this,
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And is there going to be an opportunity?
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You know, president trump has threatened to name names.
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Are we going to find out in any of these,
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You know, different processes that are about to play out
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That they put their name on this
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Because i think that's important.
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The voters want to know who's blocking this.
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Yeah, i would imagine that those who speak out one way
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Or another on this tomorrow in that meeting with president
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Trump, and senate republicans will self-identify.
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That's often how it ends up working.
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But look,
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Regardless of who
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Speaks in which direction, i do think it's important
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To recognize a couple of things.
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First of all, as you point out, it's not an easy situation.
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I grasp the fact that we don't have 60 votes.
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I fully get that.
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I also get that in many circumstances.
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Bet.
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Signals that it's not something that
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We're likely to get passed.
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This is a rather unique opportunity to wear.
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Number one, our election security,
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Requires us to take aggressive action.
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Number two, we've got a bill that is really popular
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Among americans, like three out of four american voters,
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Democrats and republicans
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Combined support measures like this one.
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And they want that done.
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Number three,
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It gets more popular over time, more popular as it's debated,
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Especially because
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The democrats arguments against it don't land.
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I have yet to hear a legitimate demand against them.
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Absolutely.
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It's a huge, huge piece of that.
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Thank you for fighting for it.
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Thank you for being our voice, senator mike lee.
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Great state of utah.
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Sen. Mike Lee: June 24, 2026 | Charlie Kirk Today

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