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Charlie Kirk Today | Stephen Meyer: April 23, 2026 | Charlie Kirk Today | April 23, 2026

We had a little bit of a setback in virginia,
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Which we're going to get into in just a little bit.
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But this sbc news is phenomenal.
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It's everything that we sort of wanted out of
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Our department of justice. so good for them.
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Yes, it's good for them.
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They deserve a massive hat tip.
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I love seeing them playing offense.
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For those who didn't hear, this broke
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Kind of in the evening yesterday.
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Hold on, hold on.
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I, yeah, we are about to get to it.
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We will have a moment to give you everything about the splc,
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But first
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I just have to tell you and give a shout out to our teams.
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We had two massive events.
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On the turning point side last night, packed
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Crowds at both the ohio state university.
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I got, lectured about the,
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That the danny is somewhere out there,
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Clapping that i said it right.
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The ohio state university.
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And then we also had a, pastor some of our largest ever
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In grapevine.
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So, let's give it, sorry to hear it.
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Plus, turning point
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Usa drawn a packed crowd at ohio state yesterday.
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If we could
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Get every young person when they turn 18
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To be informed and engage in our politics,
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Whether or not you agree with me
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And showing up at the ballot box, that's a good thing.
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And we want to bring that to our country.
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That was the ohio state with
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Vic, who's obviously running for governor in ohio.
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And then again, the pastor summit down in grapevine,
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Texas.
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And lawrence jones, who was the commentator right
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There, actually was one of the gentlemen on stage.
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So i want to give him a little shout out there,
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But without further ado,
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We are going to bring in tyler o'neill.
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He's senior editor of the daily signal,
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And he's also the author of a book
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About the splc called making hate pay.
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Tyler, welcome back to the show.
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It's good to see you, my friend.
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Hey, thanks again so much for having me.
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All right, so, blake, prime the pump.
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Give us the content.
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Oh, now you get to go.
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For those who didn't hear about this.
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So the splc is the southern poverty law center.
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They've been this kind of goblin on the left
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For a long time.
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They were especially prominent
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In president trump's first term.
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There
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Guys that they adopt is, oh, they're policing hate
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In america.
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They monitor hate groups across america.
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They run this site called hate watch.
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They've been doing it for decades.
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And what people noticed a while ago
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When it became glaring in the first trump
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Administration, is they are a far left group.
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And what they exist to do is to label the right as extremist,
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And to say that
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All the extremism in america is on the right,
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And that hate groups are always on the rise.
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They're always warning the klan is coming back.
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Nazis are coming back, killer motorcycle
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Gangs are coming back.
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And so they exist to freak
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People out about that, to get money.
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And they exist to smear people
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Like charlie as an example, as one of those hate figures.
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I mean, let's be honest as well.
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It is,
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I don't think, a stretch to say, and i'll let tyler agree
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Or disagree with me.
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It is not a stretch to say
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That they legitimately hate white people.
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Splc is they are america's top white.
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They are america's top hate group in my opinion.
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But what we got last night, that's incredible and is good
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News is the splc, according to the federal government,
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In an indictment,
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They were during that period
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Of the first trump administration
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Spending literally millions of dollars on informants
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Within the far right groups that they claimed
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To be monitoring and policing against, including,
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In some cases, they were paying the leaders of these groups.
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In one case, they were paying tens of thousands of dollars
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To somebody
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At the same time, they had a page of him
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On their hate watch page saying,
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This is an extremist that we're fighting against.
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Please give us money to fight against him
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When they were paying him.
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And so now the federal government has dropped
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Wire fraud charges are not dropped,
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Has brought wire fraud charges against the splc.
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And i think
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Whether these charges are successful or not,
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It's a great opportunity to expose
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How the organization really works.
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And i think we're going to find
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A lot of dirty laundry as our guest tyler is aware of.
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There's a lot to find.
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Tyler, the floor is yours.
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You wrote the book
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Making fake pay, and now we know it's way more,
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Insidious and sinister than we knew before.
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Yeah, well, we've long suspected
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That something like this was going on,
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But we didn't fully know the details of this info network.
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And you got to love when the splc does damage control
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By coming out and making known this clandestine
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Informant program that they've been hiding for decades.
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But, you know, the splc,
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My my book title says the corruption
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Of the southern poverty law center
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Because what they do, their stock in trade
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Is to exaggerate hate.
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They've they've cultivated this huge network of donors
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Because the splc sued ku klux klan groups
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Into nonexistence, into bankruptcy in the 1980s.
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And they've taken that, you know, platform
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And weaponized it to smear conservative groups.
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And, of course, you know, charlie, is exhibit a
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Really after the horrible thing,
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You know, after the assassination attempt.
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But he wasn't the first one to face violence
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After the splc added him to the hate map.
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They also added the family research council
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That led to a mass shooting in 2012,
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And thankfully, that shooting was largely prevented.
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But the guy who shot up the family research council
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Told the fbi he did so because of the splc map.
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So the splc has this system where they put out this hate
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Map with klan chapters and other white nationalist
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And evil groups that they say are, you know, they call this
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The infrastructure of white supremacy in america.
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And this map has gotten ever
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More insane as i've been covering it.
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So they used to just have the family research council.
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Then they added alliance defending freedom.
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They have immigration groups like the federation on on
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American immigration reform,
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Groups that warn against radical islam,
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Like the center for security policy
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And the david horowitz freedom center.
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And then they started adding.
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So first they started with some of those groups.
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Then in 2023, they added moms for liberty to the hate map.
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And in 2025 they went, you know,
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That was when they went way off the deep
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End, putting a turning point on their putting prager u
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On there.
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I mean, this group creates
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Youtube videos to inform the public.
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And now they're on a map with chapters of the ku klux klan.
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That's how insane this has gotten.
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But the reason it's gotten so bad is partially
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Because the splc has this extremely high demand for hate.
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They have this big donor base that thinks the splc
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Is the number
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One source for hate, and so we have to fund them
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Because otherwise the hate is going to proliferate.
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Well, the splc has long worked
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To increase the supply of hate to match that demand.
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It tyler now.
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Tyler no, i wasn't funding it.
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Yeah, exactly.
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I want to underscore this point.
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The splc check this graphic out.
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This is the hate grift in one image.
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And we're taking this from our friends over at fox.
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But in october of 2016, pre charlottesville,
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Their revenue was $51,871,000, 51 million
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After charlottesville, $133
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Million, an $81 million
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Increase, almost $82 million increase from charlottesville,
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Which that now we find out that one of the leaders
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In the charlottesville unite
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The right rally was paid $270,000 by the splc.
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I know a lot of people who want to enforce immigration law,
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Who want to make sure
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That every person who comes here comes here legally,
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For reasons that are honoring our country,
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That have nothing to do with race, frankly,
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But the way that the left has been pushing this
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Constant like, oh,
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Minorities should take over, we'll have infinite power.
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I think that has been exacerbated.
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And part of what we saw with the splc is exacerbating
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Racial, you know, racial divisions in the country.
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It was always by design.
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Tyler o'neil, senior editor of the, daily signal
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And author of the book making hate pay.
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We'll be right back
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We'll be right back
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Very excited about our next guest.
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We needed a pick me up here.
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We have doctor stephen meyer.
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He's a phd in philosophy of science.
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He's a former geophysicist.
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He's the author of return of the god hypothesis,
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Which we have right here because, like, we literally
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Keep his books in our office because they're that important.
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And the book has been
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The inspiration of a new film that we want to talk about.
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So without further ado,
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Doctor meyer, welcome, to the charlie kirk show.
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Well, thank you guys for having me.
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I really appreciate the opportunity
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To talk about all this with your audience. yeah.
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I mean, listen,
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So the story of everything is the feature documentary
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Adaptation of return of the god hypothesis.
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The book that i have right here.
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I remember when this came out and everybody was
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Talking about it
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Because it's kind of like a science first
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Look at creation, right?
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A lot of times people will argue for the, you know,
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I guess intelligent design
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Through a theological lens, but you are doing it
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With a science first perspective.
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Why don't you tell us about that in this film
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And then we'll play the trailer?
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So, people, it's really well done.
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Yeah.
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Thank you.
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Well, yeah, the the book and the film describe,
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And tell the story of the discovery of three,
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Of three major discoveries that reveal the reality
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Of a transcendent and active mind behind the universe.
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In other words, a
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An intelligent agent with the attributes that traditional
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Theists, jews and christians have long ascribed to god.
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So i call this the return of the god hypothesis.
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And that's what the film is about.
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Well, i mean, that's that's a
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I want to get into what those three, discoveries are,
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But let's play the trailer because i will
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I will tell you, a bunch of people sent me this,
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And we got to get you on to do this.
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And i was like, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, okay.
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And then i looked at the,
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The trailer and i was like, wow, this is like, somebody
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Has done a phenomenal job executing on this vision.
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Sat 20 today i'm going to tell you a story
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Which may seem very strange.
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Galileo kepler to newton.
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Each tried to explain events in the history
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Of the universe as the universe always been here.
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Or is it finite?
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Is there something else
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That we're glad these questions to rest?
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It reopens that question of ultimate meaning.
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How in the world did this start?
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The simulation theory?
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The multiverse? you can't trust what's in front of your eyes.
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Without guidance, we would get a life unfriendly universe.
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Many organisms have beauty beyond
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Anything that's relevant for their survival value.
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The concept of life as a cosmic phenomenon sure
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Did have many consequences.
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The question then was what does one do about it?
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Really beautiful. stuff. honestly.
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I mean, i'm so used to people pitching projects, doctor,
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And they don't look great.
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If i'm being honest, but this looks beautiful.
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Tell us about how long you guys
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Have been working on this. and then i want to.
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I want to hear some of the the, i want to hear
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Some of the the three discoveries.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Well, the embarrassing thing about the, the film project
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Is that with some delays that we encountered during the
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Final stages of covid, that it actually took
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Five years to produce the film. wow.
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It took me three and a half years to write the book.
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So the film was, even more extensive project.
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But we have 22 different scientists
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And scholars who are in it.
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The filmmakers are fantastic storytellers.
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So this is not a sermon on tape.
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This is, you know, a genuine, story.
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And it's the story of two stories,
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The story of two competing views of reality
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And how modern science
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Has revealed that one of those stories
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Clearly provides a better explanation for what we see.
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The two stories are the
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The thing that we've all heard that life arose
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In the universe arose from undirected material processes.
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Or as richard dawkins put it, from blind,
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Pitiless indifference.
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And the other story is that instead there's a mind,
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A creator,
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A creative intelligence behind the universe.
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And we can tell by looking at, as saint paul put it,
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The things that are made.
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So it's but it is, as you say, a science first approach.
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And it involves the, the, the producers
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Did a fantastic job.
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There are 400 visual effects.
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The cinematography is gorgeous.
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They take you deep out into space,
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Deep into the interior workings of the cell.
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You can see the digital information in the dna.
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What it does, you can see the nanotechnology,
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The little miniature machines inside the cell.
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So it's a very powerful visual representation
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Of the evidence.
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It's there's a very strong argument that runs through it,
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But it's also, it's just some very compelling storytelling,
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Not only about the story of the,
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The scientists making the discoveries
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That are pointing to god,
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But how those discoveries have affected their own thinking
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And their own lives and in many cases have affected
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A kind of, intellectual first and sometimes even
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Religious conversion
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Among the scientists
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Who have encountered these really powerful evidences
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For a mind behind the universe.
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Yeah, i remember actually the i forget his name.
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You probably know it, doctor, but the guy who was sort of
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First behind the mapping of the human genome
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And he was a, became a strong christian francis called.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
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So a theist and there is something really like
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Creation is so intricate and beautiful and complex
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That the people that study it most deeply tend
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To be persuaded that there is a, a creator.
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There is something behind creation.
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I'm, i'm thinking of, you know, the artemis two launch, right
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Where there was the gentleman that was on, board
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And he was looking at the majesty of earth,
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And he said, i'm
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Not really a theist at all, but like,
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I started praying and crying and weeping.
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And apparently
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This is a very common experience for astronauts.
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When they come back, you go ahead.
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I can see this is ahead.
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I had a piece about that, when the artemis guys were
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Still in space at foxnews.com at their website.
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This has been a very common thing.
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We we send people up into space.
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They look back at that beautiful blue jewel
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Through the window in their space capsule.
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And they,
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If they were religious before they become
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Even more religious.
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And if they weren't, they become open to it.
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There's a kind of experience of a, a spaceflight epiphany,
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If you will, that goes back to the the astronomers
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Or, sorry, the, astronauts in, and in the apollo
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Mission and apollo eight, they read the bible.
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They read the biblical account of creation
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From genesis on christmas day, 1968.
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The, the, the current head of nasa,
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The administrator of nasa, jared isaacman,
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Has said that his time in space convinced him
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That, quote, the heavens declare the glory of god.
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And this is one of the passages that the current astronauts,
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Emphasized as a result of their experience.
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So, yeah, it's it's kind of cool thing, really.
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And we've seen we've seen that when and in addition
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To the kind of intuitive sense that there must be
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Something behind what they see.
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Because you look at that
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Beautiful blue jewel from space,
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And then there's the darkness behind it.
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And as far as we look,
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We know no planets that are any anywhere near
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As friendly to life as our planet is.
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And then when you analyze it from the standpoint of physics,
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As far as all the what are called
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Fine tuning parameters, all the parameters
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That have to be exactly right in our local solar system
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And in the universe itself to make life possible.
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The the most obvious implication of all that
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Fine tuning is that there must have been a fine tuner.
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And we this is one of the things we cover in the film.
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And we this is one of the things we cover in the film.
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We continue now with doctor stephen meyer.
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Great new film.
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That is just tremendous.
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It's just beautiful.
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And i'm so grateful
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That you've created something that is not only important
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And rigorous and scientific, but it's the story
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Of everything, and it's beautiful.
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And so you can check it out.
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The websites, the story of everything dot
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Film, the story of everything dot film.
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Doctor, when does the film come out
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And how do people watch it?
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Yeah, fantastic.
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The film opens april 30th in theaters.
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That's next thursday.
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And it, people can get tickets by going
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To the story of everything dot film and,
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Yeah, that we would appreciate the interest.
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Yeah, absolutely. so check it out.
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Get your tickets.
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You guys are doing like an event, right?
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It's like a fathom event, like.
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So on thursday,
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There's going to be theaters all over the country
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That people can watch this, that.
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Well, this is a week long opening.
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So it's not just a typical fathom event.
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This is, fathom functioning as a, full on distributor.
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So we get a week, guaranteed.
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We're in over
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500 theaters already, and we're adding them
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Daily as more and more interest is coming in.
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Our pre-sales are very strong.
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We're hoping to kick over into a second week.
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And, and then there'll be a digital release beyond that.
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So. great.
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So please, i do encourage people
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To see it in theaters though, because it was really the
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The producers made this with a big screen in mind.
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It is it's just
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I didn't see it
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On a, on a big screen until a recent screening.
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And it's just gorgeous.
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There's 400 visual effects, great cinematography.
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You go deep out,
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Way out into space and then deep
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Into the interior of the cell.
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And there's a fantastic story that goes
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With all the beautiful imagery.
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Yeah.
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And i encourage everybody,
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Take your friends, buy a bunch of tickets,
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Take your friends churches, do this with,
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You know, it doesn't have to be a church.
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It could just be
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You got that friend that you've been working on
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For a while, and they're open you,
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And they just need a little intellectual,
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Equipping to get over the hump.
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So we talked about this, artemis two clip,
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And i
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Just really want to play it for people
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Because i just thought it was so.
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It was so beautiful, the way he described it.
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Sot 21, i'm not, i'm not really a religious person,
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But there
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Was just no other avenue for me to to explain anything
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Or to experience anything.
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So i asked for the,
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The chaplain on the navy ship
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To just come visit us for a minute.
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And when that man walked
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In, i'd never met him before in my life.
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But i saw the cross on his on his collar, and i just.
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I broke down in tears like that.
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It's very hard to fully grasp what we just went through.
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And in these short,
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You just said, it's been a week since we've been back,
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But it's been a week of medical testing,
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Physical testing, doctors, science objectives.
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I would like we have not had that decompression.
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We have not had that reflection time.
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So i'm basing this on what we saw and when the
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When the sun eclipse behind the moon,
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I think all four of us.
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I turned to the victor and i said,
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I don't think humanity has evolved to the point
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Of being able
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To comprehend what we are looking at right now,
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Because it was otherworldly and was amazing.
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Just incredible.
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All right, so, i have a question for you
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If you want to react to that.
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Well, i was just going to say that connects with a,
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Very strong theme in the film, which is the the fine
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Tuning of the universe that allows for life
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And that fine tuning of our planetary system
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That makes life on planet earth possible.
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We have a section in the film precisely on what what
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They have been
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Seeing and describing, which is all the intricate
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Parameters that were set up just right
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To make life on planet earth possible.
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And, and some beautiful, beautiful photography.
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One of those parameters is actually
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The possibility of an eclipse.
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The, the the distance between the earth and the sun
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Exactly matches geometrically what you need,
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Given the size of the moon in relation
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To the earth to make eclipses possible,
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And that we can have eclipses is one of the things
00:20:33.357 --> 00:20:37.061
That makes it possible for us
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To make basic discoveries about the universe in the cosmos.
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So there's a book called the privileged planet
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That's coauthored by guillermo gonzalez and jay richards.
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Jay richards is featured in the film describing this,
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And that book makes
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The argument that not only is the is our planetary system
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Fine tuned or designed for life, it's fine tuned
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And designed for us to be able to make scientific
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Discoveries, that is, to know something about the cosmos
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And its creator.
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So the the intuitive response of the astronauts
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Is well supported by scientific evidence about
00:21:10.661 --> 00:21:13.697
Just how incredibly designed our planetary system is.
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I have so many questions for you, doctor meyer,
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And we've got two minutes left in this segment, but it it's,
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It's like
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One question i would have for you is if somebody
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Who's not a believer came to you and said, you know,
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I don't believe because, you know, we're all just
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You know, primordial goo,
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You know, the product of and we've evolved and all this,
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I mean, what's your what do you do?
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What's your first reaction?
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Your first answer?
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Well, i go right back to where we were talking to,
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The subject we were talking about
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Before the break, which is that in the interior of the cell,
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You have these information bearing molecules
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Where the information is,
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Being used by the cell to direct the construction
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Of the proteins and the protein nanomachines
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That make it possible for living organisms to stay alive.
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And we know from our experience that information,
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Computer code always comes from a program or,
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And in fact, whenever we see information,
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We trace it back to its source, where the we're talking about
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The information in a computer program
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Or in a section in a book or a hieroglyphic inscription,
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Or the information that we're transmitting back and forth to
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Between ourselves right now.
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Information always issues or comes ultimately from a mind.
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So the discovery of information at the foundation of life
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In every living cell is a powerful indicator
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Of the activity of a designing mind in the
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In the history and the origin and history of life itself.
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We wouldn't attempt to explain the origin of the iphone
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Apart from the mind of steve jobs.
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Right? right.
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So the fact that we can't see the creator doesn't mean
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That we might not be
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In possession of an artifact or of a of a system
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That is bearing witness to the existence of a prior cause.
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It's completely legitimate scientifically
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To reason from effect back to cause.
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And in the case of information,
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The cause of information is always a mind creation
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Declares his glory the story of everything in theaters
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Nationwide beginning april 30th, 2026.
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Doctor meyer, thank you for your time today.
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Wonderful experience.
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