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Charlie Kirk Today | Steve Deace: May 27, 2026 | Charlie Kirk Today | May 27, 2026
- Want to just one note of warning
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- Caution to the audience.
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- You're going to be seeing a lot of propaganda
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- Flying back and forth about the details of the peace
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- Arrangement, potential peace deals, the way it's structured.
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- Please take everything with a huge grain of salt.
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- All right. take everything with a huge grain of salt.
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- So you know, i'm looking at the headlines.
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- You know, iran is saying they need $12 billion.
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- You know, basically that's, you know, been
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- Tied up, via sanctions.
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- They want that upon signing the deal.
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- And then 60 days later, they want the second
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- Half released.
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- Here's what you need to know.
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- There will be no money,
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- No, sanctions relief for iran
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- Without actionable items that they have met.
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- Right, so that they have obligations
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- Based on the framework of this deal.
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- They must meet them before any of this sanctions relief
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- Is going to happen. that much i know.
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- I was on a background call.
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- Like i said, that much was extraordinarily clear.
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- They have to work and do something first for any relief.
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- Then they do something else in good faith.
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- There will be more potential relief.
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- All right.
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- You also have to be i just want to say this.
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- Listen, we don't necessarily get everything that we want
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- In this deal all the time.
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- That's not the way deals work, okay?
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- You got to give something to get something often.
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- Otherwise, we're just going to be stuck
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- In a situation where we're bombing,
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- You know, in perpetuity.
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- That's how we've gotten into other conflicts that
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- We abhorred.
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- So if you want an example, how did the ukraine war explode
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- With russia?
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- Well, one of the things was
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- Russia was actually coming out and saying,
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- We would like to negotiate
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- On some of these points, expansion of nato,
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- Where you guys are putting missiles.
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- We are like here
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- That we have a proposed
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- Framework deal that we could use
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- As a starting point for negotiations.
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- And our attitude was never, you know, it wasn't.
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- We basically refused to talk.
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- We just said, here's what you're going to do
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- And you're going to accept it or tough.
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- And then russia decided to invade ukraine.
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- And we were suddenly just now, we're now we're on the hook.
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- We're spending hundreds of billions of dollars
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- On a war that could have been avoided.
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- And i think there's lessons in that.
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- If we had been willing to if we treated russia seriously,
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- Even if we said we don't
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- Like a lot of what you do, a lot of what you do is bad.
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- But we don't want a giant war either.
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- That all could have been avoided.
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- And i think similarly with iran, we can concede
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- This is a backwards regime.
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- It's a stupid regime.
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- It's a regime that seems to despise its own people.
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- But we also it's not a country that we want to have
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- 100,000 u.s. troops occupying.
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- It's not a country that we want to spend another 25 years
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- Trying to remake into a western style democracy.
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- So if we're going to be stuck
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- Living with them, how can we live with them?
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- Yeah, i totally agree.
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- Ultimately, it gets to a point where
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- We've done what we can do.
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- That's essentially the easy part.
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- None of it's easy per se, but yeah, you can drop bombs
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- And strike their manufacturing facilities.
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- You can take out their military,
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- You can put their navy at the bottom of the sea.
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- But what can they do?
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- They can cling on to power.
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- Their people are not armed.
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- They can intimidate,
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- Assault, murder
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- Their own people to the point where they're not willing
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- To come out in the streets and overthrow them,
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- And they can cause us a lot of problems in the street.
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- They can charge tolls, they can lay mines.
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- They could essentially keep the world energy supply hostage.
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- Okay.
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- So those are the those are the the dividing lines.
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- If you are going to overthrow the regime, to blake's point,
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- You're committing to tens of thousands of u.s.
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- Troops being involved.
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- You're committing to a ground force
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- That will take out the regime.
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- You're committing to funding and arming.
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- Here's the real truth militants.
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- You don't know what you're committing
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- To because it's another open ended conflict.
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- And if you had gone to people in 2002 and said,
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- This is what your involvement
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- In afghanistan is going to entail
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- When you send troops there.
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- If you had gone to bush in 2003 and said,
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- This is what your commitment
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- Is going to entail, would you take it?
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- I think they would say no, because they're it's very easy
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- To tell people before you go in, this will be easy.
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- It'll be in and out in a few months.
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- And once you're in,
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- As we've already seen, it's difficult to back out.
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- And the same people who told you it'll be easy
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- Will tell you the next step will be really easy.
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- Well, they weren't right the first time.
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- Yeah.
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- I mean listen and and you're
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- You're absolutely spot on to look at the russia deal.
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- Listen.
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- Both sides get a say in a war.
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- All right.
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- There was a possibility that when we started striking
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- Iran, that the regime was going to be toppled instantly.
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- That has proven to be untrue.
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- They are more entrenched than we maybe hoped.
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- All right.
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- They were more able to cling to power than, for example,
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- Israel told the president and his advisors.
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- Right.
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- Israel painted a very rosy picture
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- About what it would take to topple this regime.
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- Well, that hasn't happened.
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- Okay, so when you see that that has not happened
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- And you go back
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- And you say, hey, let's redo our calculus here,
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- What's possible, what's not, what are we willing to do?
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- What are we not willing to do?
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- Then the math changes.
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- The math right now
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- Is that they are going to cling to power one way or the other
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- For right now.
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- Now, we might get to the end of this, might sign this deal,
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- And you get a little modicum of peace for a few weeks,
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- A few months, and the people rise up
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- And they take back their government.
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- That could happen.
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- Is it america's obligation
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- Beyond the nuclear weapon,
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- Which president trump
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- Has made it
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- His prerogative to make sure
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- That they do not have a nuclear weapon?
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- They do not have nuclear material.
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- They not they are not enriching.
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- If you can take that
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- Off the table and that strait can be open,
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- This is a good deal.
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- We should take it which declare victory.
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- We should say our
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- Our strategic objectives have been achieved
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- And we are going home to focus domestically
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- Because our nation needs that type of investment.
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- Our people
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- Need that type of creativity and focus here domestically.
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- If we have any hope in the midterms of fighting off
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- A historical trend where the incumbent power loses
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- During the midterms, we need to be focused here.
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- We need $3 gas. we need 250 gas.
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- All right. affordability must be addressed.
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- Home ownership must be addressed.
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- Getting the next generation
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- To believe in america must be addressed.
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- These are the issues.
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- Family formation making it affordable for families.
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- Unleashing the prosperity of this country
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- For the next generation.
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- That's how you win long term.
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- That's how you deliver long term gains politically.
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- You can't be distracted and quagmires in the middle east.
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- So cut your losses, accept your victories,
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- Declare victory
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- And get what you can and get out
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- And let the iranian people deal with the regime.
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- That's should be the focus.
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- Agree, i think so, i think
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- We can
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- We've see we're living out a lot of the warnings of people
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- Who said that we just
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- We need to get out of the middle east
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- Because it's a very thankless area.
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- It's a place where
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- There's a lot of there's a lot of people invested
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- In just endless conflict there.
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- There's a lot of people who will always see
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- This big victory
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- Just over that next hill, just over the next bombing run.
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- And a lot of them are very persuasive people.
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- But you just have to say,
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- No, this has not been working
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- Out for the us and america has gotten weaker
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- Every time we've done this 20 years ago,
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- We could go to war with iraq and it just felt
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- We're so strong. we can dominate everyone.
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- We have unlimited resources.
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- We did that with afghanistan as well.
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- And every time we've done this, we've gotten a little weaker.
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- And now we just have to confront the fact
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- America is not this all conquering super colossus.
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- It's tough to do that with,
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- You know, powers throughout the ages have found invading a,
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- You know, huge country is extraordinarily challenging.
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- So you got to do what's reasonable
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- And in our best interests.
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- And that means get out, get home.
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- Steve davis joins us next. we'll be right back.
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- Steve davis joins us next. we'll be right back.
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- What better
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- Way as we come off memorial day weekend, honoring our fallen
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- Heroes that have made this country great and possible.
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- And as we move into the 250th celebration
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- In through the summer and july 4th,
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- Then do celebrate july 4th with steve de sousa,
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- Great american, he's got a new book out, why independence day
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- America is great because god is good.
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- Steve, welcome back to the show, my friend.
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- Good to see you guys. how are you?
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- Congratulations on the book.
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- This is the third in a trilogy of kids books,
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- Which, you know,
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- It's like, listen, we have
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- These really prestigious, you know, academics on that
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- Have these really serious books.
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- This, to me is even more important
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- Because we got to teach the next generation about why
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- They should love america,
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- Why they should have faith in america.
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- It's more important than ever.
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- See, why did you write this book and what's it about?
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- So my my publisher came to me a few years ago,
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- And said, hey, you know, with that,
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- The rush's passing, you know, he had
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- These rush revere books that were very successful.
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- Would you be willing to step into that space?
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- And i'm like, listen, man,
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- I can't shake the dust off of rush's sandals.
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- But then i got to thinking about it.
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- Over the next day or two, and i thought, well,
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- What if we did something even more unique?
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- What if we looked at america's
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- Christian heritage for children?
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- And i proposed that as a trilogy?
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- The publisher loved it.
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- We launched the first one, y thanksgiving, in 2022.
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- It was a national bestseller.
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- We had easter in 2024, and then the
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- The finale was always going to be for america's 250th
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- Y independence day.
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- And then it's just a matter
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- What the subtitle was going to be.
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- And so we decided to go with
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- America is great because god is good.
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- And you just see his providence,
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- His hand of providence. all throughout our history,
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- You see our founders refer to it.
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- It's mentioned several times, moments and events that
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- Just could not have happened
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- Without the hand of god intervening in human history.
- 00:10:06.128 --> 00:10:08.831
- And we wanted to tell this story for our kids.
- 00:10:08.831 --> 00:10:10.666
- I mean, really, the american story,
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- The 250th birthday of america, guys, it's an event 3000 years
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- In the making, charlie used to point out.
- 00:10:17.606 --> 00:10:18.974
- Deuteronomy was quoted more than any other book
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- By our founding fathers.
- 00:10:21.410 --> 00:10:22.645
- And so we go into all of that, from moses at mount sinai,
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- Through christ, through the reformation
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- And all of this history that eventually led
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- To this place, this special place.
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- Now we're fighting to preserve called america.
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- Yeah.
- 00:10:35.257 --> 00:10:36.158
- You know, and i'm looking at the book
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- As you sent, a little advance copy to me.
- 00:10:37.326 --> 00:10:39.795
- So the pdf.
- 00:10:39.795 --> 00:10:40.696
- So i'm looking at it right now, steve.
- 00:10:40.696 --> 00:10:42.331
- And the illustrations are great.
- 00:10:42.331 --> 00:10:44.033
- I have little kids.
- 00:10:44.033 --> 00:10:45.868
- So i can't wait to read them this.
- 00:10:45.868 --> 00:10:47.703
- And and it really helps you make the through line
- 00:10:47.703 --> 00:10:50.639
- Very directly and very obviously.
- 00:10:50.639 --> 00:10:54.009
- For the mind of a child explaining god's providential
- 00:10:54.009 --> 00:10:57.413
- Hand and how, like you said, this started 3000 years ago.
- 00:10:57.413 --> 00:11:00.316
- This started with god setting apart a people and a nation.
- 00:11:00.316 --> 00:11:04.053
- How the, you know, the pilgrims came to spread,
- 00:11:04.053 --> 00:11:07.790
- The gospel really have a, have a refuge here
- 00:11:07.790 --> 00:11:09.992
- To freely express their christian faith.
- 00:11:09.992 --> 00:11:13.162
- And how that built the the the building blocks
- 00:11:13.162 --> 00:11:16.031
- The foundation of the providential
- 00:11:16.031 --> 00:11:18.901
- Hand of god being so visible in our country.
- 00:11:18.901 --> 00:11:22.505
- I think it's beautiful.
- 00:11:22.505 --> 00:11:23.539
- I, i can't wait to read it to my own kids.
- 00:11:23.539 --> 00:11:25.407
- And i hope people at home understand the power of that.
- 00:11:25.407 --> 00:11:28.144
- Why that's so important?
- 00:11:28.144 --> 00:11:29.712
- Because.
- 00:11:29.712 --> 00:11:30.780
- And maybe, steve, this this can be a question for you
- 00:11:30.780 --> 00:11:33.015
- Explaining
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- All that we're up against.
- 00:11:35.084 --> 00:11:36.452
- You've got, foreign influence campaigns.
- 00:11:36.452 --> 00:11:39.121
- You've got a whole half of the the country
- 00:11:39.121 --> 00:11:42.057
- That seems to hate this place.
- 00:11:42.658 --> 00:11:44.260
- Seems to hate what it's about, what it was founded upon,
- 00:11:44.260 --> 00:11:47.296
- And it hates
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- The men who founded it and the ideas that founded it.
- 00:11:48.364 --> 00:11:50.499
- Why now?
- 00:11:50.499 --> 00:11:51.367
- Why is this more important than ever?
- 00:11:51.367 --> 00:11:53.435
- Because of everything you just said.
- 00:11:53.435 --> 00:11:55.337
- And we are at it.
- 00:11:55.337 --> 00:11:56.405
- We are at a generational knife's edge right now.
- 00:11:56.405 --> 00:11:59.742
- And, we are either going to pass these things on,
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- To the next generation
- 00:12:03.145 --> 00:12:04.680
- Or they're going to be lost in this next generation.
- 00:12:04.680 --> 00:12:07.683
- And if you just look at our history,
- 00:12:07.683 --> 00:12:09.051
- There are events that are just mathematically incalculable.
- 00:12:09.051 --> 00:12:12.454
- The odds that the puritans would go here
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- Across the channel
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- And land in a place where it just so happened
- 00:12:17.593 --> 00:12:20.196
- That they run into a guy named squanto,
- 00:12:20.196 --> 00:12:22.865
- Who's an indian, who was taught the bible
- 00:12:22.865 --> 00:12:26.435
- By english speaking, you know, settlers, over and over
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- In, over and in the, the old land, the old country.
- 00:12:30.940 --> 00:12:34.710
- And he just happens to be there
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- Within close proximity to massachusetts bay colony.
- 00:12:36.412 --> 00:12:39.515
- Pardon me?
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- To help them understand this new world they were in
- 00:12:40.916 --> 00:12:43.452
- And and and
- 00:12:43.452 --> 00:12:45.621
- Pardon me and the tribes
- 00:12:46.155 --> 00:12:47.423
- And the and and all the customs they were landing into.
- 00:12:47.423 --> 00:12:51.227
- The odds of that are incalculable.
- 00:12:51.227 --> 00:12:53.896
- Guys, you see this all throughout our history,
- 00:12:53.896 --> 00:12:58.000
- And it's why one of the terms our founders used the most
- 00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:00.769
- Was this term providence, which literally just means
- 00:13:00.769 --> 00:13:03.906
- Supernatural acts of god that are otherwise inexplicable.
- 00:13:03.906 --> 00:13:08.177
- Yeah.
- 00:13:08.410 --> 00:13:09.245
- And, i'm just pulling some images
- 00:13:09.245 --> 00:13:11.013
- Here for the team so they can put them up here.
- 00:13:11.013 --> 00:13:12.514
- I just love the way this thing is animated.
- 00:13:12.514 --> 00:13:15.117
- And i mean, you know,
- 00:13:15.117 --> 00:13:16.952
- And you give little bible lessons here, which i love.
- 00:13:16.952 --> 00:13:20.556
- You're talking about, the founding of the country,
- 00:13:20.556 --> 00:13:25.394
- Something we actually talked
- 00:13:25.394 --> 00:13:26.462
- About yesterday on our our memorial day special a lot
- 00:13:26.462 --> 00:13:29.131
- With the boys of 76 and 77 and,
- 00:13:29.131 --> 00:13:32.134
- O'donnell, a historian, a great, great,
- 00:13:32.134 --> 00:13:34.203
- Great conversation we had with him.
- 00:13:34.203 --> 00:13:35.371
- So please check that out.
- 00:13:35.371 --> 00:13:36.205
- But, you know,
- 00:13:36.205 --> 00:13:37.406
- You're saying since we have god's
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- Spirit in us now to teach us right from wrong,
- 00:13:38.707 --> 00:13:41.176
- We don't need government rules as much as we used to?
- 00:13:41.176 --> 00:13:43.712
- Sure, we still need things
- 00:13:43.712 --> 00:13:44.914
- Like the police to protect us
- 00:13:44.914 --> 00:13:46.215
- Because there are still bad people doing bad things.
- 00:13:46.215 --> 00:13:48.784
- But we don't need a king to act like he's got.
- 00:13:48.784 --> 00:13:51.053
- He's a god when we already know the one true god.
- 00:13:51.053 --> 00:13:54.223
- I'm just i'm just i'm flipping through the pages here.
- 00:13:54.223 --> 00:13:56.825
- And these are the type of lessons, like you're explaining
- 00:13:56.825 --> 00:14:00.562
- The that we the people are sovereign.
- 00:14:00.562 --> 00:14:03.165
- You're explaining why,
- 00:14:03.165 --> 00:14:04.466
- How god set up those structures of government,
- 00:14:04.466 --> 00:14:06.568
- How they're sort of, well, they're not sort of.
- 00:14:06.568 --> 00:14:08.437
- They are god breathed.
- 00:14:08.437 --> 00:14:09.905
- They are illuminated in the pages of scripture.
- 00:14:09.905 --> 00:14:12.007
- And america is special because our form of government
- 00:14:12.007 --> 00:14:14.777
- Reflects god's design for his people.
- 00:14:14.777 --> 00:14:18.013
- It's beautiful. correct?
- 00:14:18.013 --> 00:14:19.515
- Correct. amen.
- 00:14:19.515 --> 00:14:21.083
- Thank you very much. appreciate that.
- 00:14:21.083 --> 00:14:22.685
- And you know,
- 00:14:22.685 --> 00:14:23.686
- When i was watching, i have you guys seen
- 00:14:23.686 --> 00:14:25.154
- The new movie, a great awakening
- 00:14:25.154 --> 00:14:27.189
- About george whitfield.
- 00:14:27.189 --> 00:14:28.257
- Have you guys seen that yet? it's very well done.
- 00:14:28.257 --> 00:14:30.492
- And one of the things that ben franklin says
- 00:14:30.492 --> 00:14:32.861
- To the british ambassador,
- 00:14:32.861 --> 00:14:34.663
- And it's funny, i thought that's a line right
- 00:14:34.663 --> 00:14:36.598
- Out of the children's book that i have coming out.
- 00:14:36.598 --> 00:14:38.400
- When i saw this about a month and a half ago
- 00:14:38.400 --> 00:14:40.235
- Is, he says, to the british ambassador,
- 00:14:40.235 --> 00:14:41.937
- And in a scene, well,
- 00:14:41.937 --> 00:14:44.239
- They think now that they have god in their lives,
- 00:14:44.239 --> 00:14:46.475
- And we've had awakenings spiritually
- 00:14:46.475 --> 00:14:48.877
- That they don't need a dreaded sovereign anymore.
- 00:14:48.877 --> 00:14:51.580
- They don't need a king.
- 00:14:51.580 --> 00:14:52.681
- They think that jesus is king.
- 00:14:52.681 --> 00:14:54.316
- Christ is king, and they're fine. just,
- 00:14:54.316 --> 00:14:56.285
- You know, living, individually with him in charge.
- 00:14:56.285 --> 00:14:59.621
- And i set up in my seat,
- 00:14:59.621 --> 00:15:01.290
- Guys, when i saw that in the theater,
- 00:15:01.290 --> 00:15:03.225
- Because, again, that's right out of the page of, my book
- 00:15:03.225 --> 00:15:06.528
- That you just shared there, andrew.
- 00:15:06.528 --> 00:15:08.163
- And i think this is key to the understanding
- 00:15:08.163 --> 00:15:10.265
- Of how we came about as a people.
- 00:15:10.265 --> 00:15:12.401
- Now, this line has been attributed to many folks.
- 00:15:12.401 --> 00:15:14.470
- I think it originated with william penn,
- 00:15:14.470 --> 00:15:15.904
- That if men were angels, they wouldn't need government.
- 00:15:15.904 --> 00:15:19.141
- So we do need government. we're not angels, right?
- 00:15:19.141 --> 00:15:21.477
- We are sinners, but we need government that is limited.
- 00:15:21.477 --> 00:15:24.413
- Why do we need a government that is limited?
- 00:15:24.413 --> 00:15:26.615
- Because the people working in the government are sinners too.
- 00:15:26.615 --> 00:15:30.252
- That's right.
- 00:15:30.619 --> 00:15:31.620
- That's why god is not a respecter of persons.
- 00:15:31.620 --> 00:15:33.322
- We're the people working.
- 00:15:33.322 --> 00:15:34.890
- Both the government
- 00:15:34.890 --> 00:15:35.824
- And the government are full of sinners,
- 00:15:35.824 --> 00:15:38.394
- So we need just enough to restrain the sinful
- 00:15:38.394 --> 00:15:41.897
- Acts of the people.
- 00:15:41.897 --> 00:15:43.065
- And to enter and to provide justice when they do send.
- 00:15:43.065 --> 00:15:45.901
- This is what paul means in romans
- 00:15:45.901 --> 00:15:47.136
- 13 to be an avenging angel against the evil doer.
- 00:15:47.136 --> 00:15:50.105
- That's the purpose of government, but not so much.
- 00:15:50.105 --> 00:15:52.474
- Now that you use your sinfulness
- 00:15:52.474 --> 00:15:53.876
- To go back to the original sin and say,
- 00:15:53.876 --> 00:15:55.477
- I am god and government then becomes a god.
- 00:15:55.477 --> 00:15:57.880
- It's the old chesterton line.
- 00:15:57.880 --> 00:15:59.281
- When government
- 00:15:59.281 --> 00:16:00.315
- Removes the god, the government becomes the god.
- 00:16:00.315 --> 00:16:02.751
- Yeah, we see that completely on the progressive left,
- 00:16:02.751 --> 00:16:06.488
- And we see it's and sometimes little elements of it
- 00:16:06.488 --> 00:16:09.658
- On the right, steve.
- 00:16:09.658 --> 00:16:10.893
- Which is why getting back to foundational principles
- 00:16:10.893 --> 00:16:14.730
- Is so important right now.
- 00:16:14.730 --> 00:16:16.065
- I mean, there's a point to being pragmatic in politics.
- 00:16:16.065 --> 00:16:18.600
- I totally agree.
- 00:16:18.600 --> 00:16:19.501
- We can be over ideological,
- 00:16:19.501 --> 00:16:21.336
- But if you don't have these basics
- 00:16:21.336 --> 00:16:23.906
- And these understanding, and you don't instill them
- 00:16:23.906 --> 00:16:26.241
- In your children at a very young age.
- 00:16:26.241 --> 00:16:28.677
- You're this country is going to be in a world of hurt.
- 00:16:28.677 --> 00:16:31.113
- We will not pass this great blessing that is america.
- 00:16:31.113 --> 00:16:34.149
- On to the next generation.
- 00:16:34.149 --> 00:16:35.651
- And when do i fully internalize
- 00:16:35.651 --> 00:16:39.154
- This, too, by the way?
- 00:16:39.154 --> 00:16:40.255
- Like i'm reading my children about the constitution,
- 00:16:40.255 --> 00:16:42.724
- About the declaration of independence right now,
- 00:16:42.724 --> 00:16:44.359
- And they're gobbling it up like their minds are sponges
- 00:16:44.359 --> 00:16:47.496
- At this stage.
- 00:16:47.496 --> 00:16:48.363
- So, please, stay right there. steve.
- 00:16:48.363 --> 00:16:50.332
- We got another segment with you.
- 00:16:50.332 --> 00:16:51.366
- But but well done, my friend.
- 00:16:51.366 --> 00:16:55.007
- But but well done, my friend.
- 00:16:55.007 --> 00:17:00.478
- More with steve de steve.
- 00:17:01.045 --> 00:17:03.080
- You know, let's talk about so your book,
- 00:17:03.080 --> 00:17:06.484
- I mean really undergirding
- 00:17:06.484 --> 00:17:08.419
- That your entire premise for writing it is we lost a
- 00:17:08.419 --> 00:17:12.123
- Great man in rush limbaugh too soon, died of cancer.
- 00:17:12.123 --> 00:17:15.826
- And it was heartbreaking.
- 00:17:15.826 --> 00:17:16.827
- And it broke charlie's heart.
- 00:17:16.827 --> 00:17:18.229
- And then we lost charlie.
- 00:17:18.229 --> 00:17:19.663
- Another great man.
- 00:17:19.663 --> 00:17:20.898
- And we lost him too soon.
- 00:17:20.898 --> 00:17:21.866
- Such a powerful voice for young people.
- 00:17:21.866 --> 00:17:25.136
- And there is this sense, you know,
- 00:17:25.136 --> 00:17:28.339
- I, you know, a lot of people,
- 00:17:28.339 --> 00:17:30.641
- Given to doom and black pilling because we lost these two
- 00:17:30.641 --> 00:17:33.744
- Great men, and we need.
- 00:17:33.744 --> 00:17:34.879
- We needed them. it feels like we needed them.
- 00:17:34.879 --> 00:17:37.248
- But you're one of those guys.
- 00:17:37.248 --> 00:17:39.583
- That is stepping into that and doing the piece that you can.
- 00:17:39.583 --> 00:17:43.087
- And that's all we're trying to do here.
- 00:17:43.087 --> 00:17:45.723
- By keeping the charlie kirk show alive.
- 00:17:45.723 --> 00:17:48.125
- Is doing our piece
- 00:17:48.125 --> 00:17:50.060
- And doing what we can through turning point.
- 00:17:50.060 --> 00:17:52.429
- And maybe reflect on that, just that dynamic,
- 00:17:52.429 --> 00:17:56.167
- Because there is a lot of people
- 00:17:56.167 --> 00:17:57.301
- That see what's happened,
- 00:17:57.301 --> 00:17:58.502
- You know, see what happened in the movement,
- 00:17:58.502 --> 00:17:59.837
- The fracturing, the fraying at the edges,
- 00:17:59.837 --> 00:18:02.106
- This foreign influence, whatever it is.
- 00:18:02.106 --> 00:18:06.343
- Why are you
- 00:18:06.677 --> 00:18:07.344
- Stepping into the void, steve?
- 00:18:07.344 --> 00:18:10.281
- You believe resurrection comes
- 00:18:10.281 --> 00:18:12.483
- After good friday, then there's always hope.
- 00:18:12.483 --> 00:18:15.619
- You think the world's dark now?
- 00:18:16.253 --> 00:18:17.621
- How about, hey,
- 00:18:17.621 --> 00:18:18.589
- We killed god, guys, it's a pretty dark world.
- 00:18:18.589 --> 00:18:21.258
- It's as dark as it gets.
- 00:18:21.258 --> 00:18:22.126
- It's been a lot darker than this.
- 00:18:22.126 --> 00:18:23.727
- I mean, the story of the
- 00:18:23.727 --> 00:18:24.929
- The people that founded the country, the puritans.
- 00:18:24.929 --> 00:18:27.331
- Who were they fleeing?
- 00:18:27.331 --> 00:18:28.098
- They were not fleeting
- 00:18:28.098 --> 00:18:29.166
- Islamic infiltration like we're seeing in the west.
- 00:18:29.166 --> 00:18:31.969
- They weren't fleeing,
- 00:18:31.969 --> 00:18:33.137
- You know, pagan communists didn't even exist yet
- 00:18:33.137 --> 00:18:36.273
- During the post reformation era,
- 00:18:36.273 --> 00:18:38.409
- Where catholic monarchs would persecute protestants
- 00:18:38.409 --> 00:18:40.811
- And protestant monarchs or persecute catholics.
- 00:18:40.811 --> 00:18:42.980
- They weren't even fleeing a catholic monarch.
- 00:18:42.980 --> 00:18:45.282
- They were fleeing a protestant king
- 00:18:45.282 --> 00:18:47.751
- Who wanted to tell them what exactly they could
- 00:18:47.751 --> 00:18:49.753
- And could not preach, and what they could
- 00:18:49.753 --> 00:18:50.921
- And could not say.
- 00:18:50.921 --> 00:18:52.022
- John bunyan wrote, you know, pilgrim's progress.
- 00:18:52.022 --> 00:18:54.158
- He was in prison for over a decade by a protestant king
- 00:18:54.158 --> 00:18:57.628
- Because he didn't want to have his sermons
- 00:18:57.628 --> 00:18:59.363
- Check listed and approved by the crown.
- 00:18:59.363 --> 00:19:01.665
- It can get a lot darker than things currently are.
- 00:19:01.665 --> 00:19:04.969
- And so to me, there's always hope and and i i'm not.
- 00:19:04.969 --> 00:19:08.872
- You know, it's funny, i think that
- 00:19:08.872 --> 00:19:10.207
- I'm getting more offers and opportunities to do things
- 00:19:10.207 --> 00:19:12.910
- Because of the giant void that that charlie's,
- 00:19:12.910 --> 00:19:16.747
- Murder left and, and others that i'm speaking to, too.
- 00:19:16.747 --> 00:19:21.051
- And we're all saying the same things to each other, like,
- 00:19:21.051 --> 00:19:23.854
- There's like, 15 of us that are getting asked to fill,
- 00:19:23.854 --> 00:19:26.690
- Some of this space here.
- 00:19:26.690 --> 00:19:28.259
- How did this one guy do what?
- 00:19:28.259 --> 00:19:30.461
- Yeah.
- 00:19:30.461 --> 00:19:31.161
- We all still have our old jobs.
- 00:19:31.161 --> 00:19:32.496
- We've got to do all the other stuff we were doing.
- 00:19:32.496 --> 00:19:34.164
- How did this guy go off to do
- 00:19:34.164 --> 00:19:35.366
- All this stuff
- 00:19:35.366 --> 00:19:36.300
- That the 15 of us are now trying to all
- 00:19:36.300 --> 00:19:38.035
- Figure out amongst ourselves?
- 00:19:38.035 --> 00:19:39.203
- But one of those things i just got invited to do,
- 00:19:39.203 --> 00:19:42.006
- One of those things was to watch to do a heritage
- 00:19:42.006 --> 00:19:44.608
- Tour with speaker mike johnson.
- 00:19:44.608 --> 00:19:46.010
- And, last week in dc and i have to tell you,
- 00:19:46.010 --> 00:19:50.114
- It's rare to say anything at a dc is inspiring,
- 00:19:50.114 --> 00:19:54.285
- But going there and seeing a lot of this
- 00:19:54.285 --> 00:19:56.453
- History to be in that prayer room
- 00:19:56.453 --> 00:19:58.522
- That is halfway between the offices
- 00:19:58.522 --> 00:20:00.791
- Of the majority leader and the speaker
- 00:20:00.791 --> 00:20:02.626
- To see these marble statues, to see these paintings.
- 00:20:02.626 --> 00:20:05.629
- And i shared a lot of them with our audience today.
- 00:20:05.629 --> 00:20:07.865
- It refilled my tank.
- 00:20:07.865 --> 00:20:09.333
- It reminded me of what it is that we're really fighting
- 00:20:09.333 --> 00:20:12.069
- For here,
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- That this really is the last, best hope this nation is,
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- As far as we know, anyway,
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- The last, best hope for this planet before christ returns.
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- And so i'm as fired up as i've as i've been in a long time,
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- Just by getting that personal reminder of the stakes here
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- And why it is, why it is so volatile.
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- It's because of what
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- This country stands for and what happens,
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- To the rest of this planet that this country goes away.
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- Yeah, that's beautifully said.
- 00:20:38.629 --> 00:20:39.930
- And, you know, and j.d.
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- Vance said the same thing
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- In the aftermath of when we lost charlie.
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- It's like
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- We all just have to do the little piece that we can,
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- Because charlie was a giant
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- And he did so much, and he was tireless.
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- He just had this engine where he just wouldn't stop going.
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- He was always
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- Trying to squeeze out 30 more minutes of his day,
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- Squeeze out
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- 5% more productivity again and again and again over years.
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- And that's how you get a charlie kirk.
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- It was so it's
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- So incredible to remark upon just because
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- He even could fit in.
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- He did even fit in the leisure.
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- So he had his he had a sabbath that he would do on saturdays.
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- He still managed to
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- Watch the cubs watch the ducks, and yet he's still off
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- Maximizing his work time so effectively.
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- Always,
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- Always organizing something, always planning the next thing.
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- Always.
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- He's just such a model of high effectiveness
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- Across one's life.
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- Yeah.
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- And i think i'm glad we'll always have that. yeah.
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- Well and he i think you're doing
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- A great job too, steve, of just being courageous as well.
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- And i think this time
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- Really calls for a lot of courage to call it out.
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- There's a lot of voices,
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- And we'll just keep it vague for now,
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- Because it's tuesday after memorial day,
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- And i want to i want to feel the unifying spirit of it.
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- But, you know,
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- There's a lot of question of whether
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- Or not they're actually being effective.
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- And i think they're being somewhat effective
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- Of discouraging us, of getting us divided.
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- But i don't think they're nearly as effective
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- As people are concerned that they are.
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- And i know that you agree with this on some level.
- 00:22:07.851 --> 00:22:11.655
- Maybe spend the last minute of our talk remarking on that.
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- One of the things i think we're going to find in this era
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- Is that you can build an audience
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- That is a mile wide but an inch deep,
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- And that that audience and influence
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- Are not necessarily the same thing,
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- Meaning that where are the people you are
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- Reaching is where where can you create a critical mass?
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- And ultimately, you know, metrics can be faked,
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- Numbers can be faked.
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- Ultimately, you are the merchandise.
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- You can move and and the people you can mobilize
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- Because that's those are constants.
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- Everything else is a variable and those are constants.
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- And and to me, i think that
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- A great tell if you're listening to the right content
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- Is, does it bring you closer to god's
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- Word and make you want to be more christlike?
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- And if the answer to that question is yes,
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- Then then get it, then, then hug that content even closer.
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- And if the answer to that question
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- Is no, then run away from it as fast as you can.
- 00:23:06.076 --> 00:23:09.346
- That's a great way to end it.
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- Steve days, congratulations on your book.
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- Thank you for your contribution and your courage.
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- But stay the course. pray for peace.
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- Pray for paxton in texas.
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- We got things to do, steve days.
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- Be well, my friend. i'll talk to you soon.
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