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Brought to you in part by the
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International fellowship of christians and jews.
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I'm andrew calvert.
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Joined by jack posobiec,
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The one and only human events daily with poso.
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So, yes, i went to this town hall last night.
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Fetterman is actually the one that's going
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Most viral, john fetterman, because he said, i'm
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Not going to call conservatives fascists.
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Right.
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So fetterman is striking this civil tone.
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It was supposed to be a very civil, debate.
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Chris cuomo had reached out, asked me to be a part of it.
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I said, sure, i'm going to be in town.
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Let's do it.
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I'm happy to do a civil debate, a conversation.
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So i go there, i'm backstage,
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And you've got, you know, jim jordan, you got ro khanna,
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Stephen a smith, bill o'reilly, chris cuomo.
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They're all having these. very nice. it's over.
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Did everett kennedy kennedy center last night.
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They're all having these very nice conversations.
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It's all very civil. it's very chill.
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And then all of a sudden my segment comes up
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And they put me with this midas touch kid at midas touch.
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Put the he puts the mark and moncler and we talk backstage.
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It was very nice.
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And you know, i was like, okay, we'll talk about new media.
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We'll talk about the importance of that and
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What the turning point doing.
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I thought it was going to be just like this.
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This kid comes in and he's like, you need to disavow
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These young republicans from new york.
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I mean, he came at me real, real hot, real hot.
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I had no idea that i was walking into that situation.
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But can i just say, by the way, on the fetterman piece?
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So fetterman comes out, he says, i'm
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Not going to call conservatives fascists, right?
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That was the big thing last night.
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What do we see in axios this morning?
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The democrats are now moving to oust fetterman.
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They're going to primary in pennsylvania.
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Oh my goodness.
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So so you are no longer
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Allowed to live civilly with your political opponents.
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Yeah.
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And by the way, he is a 93% democrat voting record.
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So like like he votes with the democrats
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All the time on every single issue.
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Not good enough. but it's not good enough.
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Not because he won't call.
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And this shows you i'm sorry.
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But like you were on charlie show, right?
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This shows you the mindset and the ecosystem
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That leads to a heinous act like this,
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Because they demand this ideological fealty to you.
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You must say the words, you must say the words.
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And if you don't say that,
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Then they're going to throw you out of office.
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Well, let's look at,
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Since we're on fetterman, let's play that clip.
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270 i know,
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I know, and i love people that voted for president trump.
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But they are not fascists.
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They're not nazis.
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They're not trying to destroy the constitution.
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Those things.
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We really got to turn the temperature down.
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And for that, he's getting basically
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Primaried by political party and politically speaking.
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So i mean, obviously we're both in pennsylvania.
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So trump wins pennsylvania.
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But then fetterman also won pennsylvania.
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So he's in this same boat with, like whitmer, josh shapiro,
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A number of people who are believers in wisconsin
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Who are representing state
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As democrats in places where trump won.
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You see this also with jon ossoff
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In georgia,
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Of course, in arizona as well,
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Which charlie, of course, is very close to. yep.
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And this is a perfect example
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Of this clip i'm about to play from jimmy
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Kimmel of the current state of the democrat party.
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This guy is still lying.
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He almost lost his job.
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As a matter of fact,
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He probably will,
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Let's be honest, because his ratings
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Are falling off a cliff and because he's a muscle now,
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Because of the money, because he's awful, he's not funny.
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His ratings are falling off a cliff.
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He's going to his show will die the way it's supposed to die,
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Which is because it's too expensive
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And it's unsuccessful, so that's fine.
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But meanwhile,
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Despite getting a pretty stern slap on the wrist,
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We'll call it a slap on the wrist.
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That's about what it was.
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He's still out there saying antifa is not real
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And that trump supporters are domestic terrorists.
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And if you want to know why conservatives
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Are getting so upset about the rise of left
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Wing violence, it's because of this rhetoric
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That is, it put this sheer sheen of respectability
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Because it shows up on the
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Nightly news, or it shows up on late night talk shows. 275
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Antifa.
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It's just short for anti-fascists.
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It's not a club you can join.
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There are no membership dues, but they have matching signs.
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Okay, well, i guess we better round up
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These domestic terrorists who.
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Look pretty natural to me.
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Listen,
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I'm going to tell you this.
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Spread it around.
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There's no chaos in portland.
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None.
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There is no chaos in chicago.
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There was no chaos in los angeles.
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They're pretending there's chaos as a pretense
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For a military takeover.
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I find this highly offensive on so many levels,
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And to the point that maybe i might just start a new jack.
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But i will say this.
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There is chaos in portland, in chicago.
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Go try living in the south side.
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Go try working at a federal ice facility.
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Go try, being a journalist and covering the events
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Without getting a black eye or getting a, you know, a
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Liquid cement, milkshake thrown at your head.
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So, yeah, i don't, by the way.
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And the whole point
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Of antifa, jack,
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And you know this better than anybody is
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That it is intentionally decentralized.
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It is intentionally this amorphous, flexible,
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Loose network of left wing, militant right.
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And they certainly do have tactical flow.
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We know there's financiers. we know there's the rest of it.
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But what jimmy kimmel is doing it,
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I remember
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This is playing towards
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That slim base that he still has left.
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And he has to keep repeating
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Like recursive thoughts over and over again.
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We are not violent. they are violent.
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We are not violent as, as and i hate to say it,
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But as the left wing violence continues
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Throughout this country just had bloody september,
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Who knows what will be next.
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In genesis
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12 three, god made a powerful promise
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To abraham, the father of the jewish people.
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I will bless those who bless you.
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The christian bible tells us
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That we have been grafted into god's family tree.
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The rich olive tree of israel,
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The very foundations of the christian faith,
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The bible and jesus, whom christians call
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The messiah, are deeply rooted in israel.
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Supporting israel aligns christians with god's
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Prophetic timeline.
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God's blessing, uplifting his chosen people,
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We have the
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Great coach tommy tuberville on the line.
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Coach, welcome to the show.
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Hey, andrew. how are you doing?
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How's it going?
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I'm doing all right, coach.
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Thank you so much.
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And i want to start this, by the way,
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I'm also joined by jack posobiec.
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I know you can't see him
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On, on camera just yet, but i'm here, coach.
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I'm here. yeah, there we go. there.
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We got the three up.
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Coach, this is, your first time
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Joining the show since everything happened,
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So i want to start there.
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There's a lot we need to get to, but let's start there.
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Charlie loved you, coach.
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He believed in you.
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He knew you were one of the fighters.
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In washington.
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Now you're working on a gubernatorial campaign
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In the great state of alabama.
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But maybe just
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Start there, reflect on, what this month has meant to you
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And and kind of where you're at.
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Yeah.
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I met charlie six, seven years ago.
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He helped me in my campaign for the senate seat,
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And we got to be good friends.
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I saw him at the white house
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A couple times, during the campaign.
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And, just over the last two years
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Since president trump got elected, he and i were,
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We're put on the air force, basically the academy board
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And to try to work with air force academy
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To try to help our young leaders of the future.
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And charlie and i had several conversations, and
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We were really outspoken
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On a lot of things that need to be changed.
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And again, charlie was, he was one of a kind.
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And, you
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You always
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Enjoyed talking to him because you'd always learn something.
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I learned something long time ago.
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You speak a third of the time,
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You listen two thirds of the time.
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And if, i could've listened all day to charlie.
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But it's a it's a shame of what's happened.
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Seemed like just yesterday.
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But his memory will go on.
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And his teachings, because he did so much for young kids.
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I spent my life on college campuses, and, lord
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Have mercy, how much we needed somebody like charlie,
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And now erica and and you guys and everybody on board
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Going in that direction.
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We have to continue that, ministry on college campuses.
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That's where it starts.
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That's where we're going to change our country.
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And charlie was on the right track.
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Now, something else you and charlie shared,
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And i've mentioned this on the show before,
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Is that towards the end of his life, charlie,
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Probably more
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Than any other issue, raised the alarm bells
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About the rise of islam in the west.
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Obviously, he had just visited
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London and the uk saw it up close and personal.
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Realize half the tv channels were,
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In a different language, mostly.
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Mostly, middle eastern languages.
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I think that's safe to say.
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And it it really disturbed him.
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And then he we saw
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These different communities within the united states
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Trying to, put together muslim centric,
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Cultures and sort of,
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You know, having mosques and having an hoa
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That was basically paying
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Towards a mosque in the epic city,
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I think is what they called it in texas.
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But there's other examples.
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Dearborn, michigan, there's a rising tide of islam
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In the west.
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And, coach,
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You are introducing legislation to ban sharia law
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In the united states. tell us about it.
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We have freedoms.
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We have a constitution.
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And you have the right to come here
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And be a part of this country.
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The thing that you don't have the right to do
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Is to attack our constitution.
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Other religions.
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Speak out against america.
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Speak out against americans.
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Death to america. that's wrong.
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Sharia law is not going to fit here.
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It it got no chance.
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Charlie and i had talked.
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Talked about this recently, before his death.
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And, he was starting on that campaign.
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I'm going to continue that campaign, in his name
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Because we have a great country,
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But we can't if you don't assimilate
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With america and love our flag and love our people
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And put put your foot forward to help
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Make this country greater instead of downgraded.
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You have no place here.
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So we need to ban sharia law.
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And we need to make sure that anything that's done,
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Towards american people, if spoken out against,
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I don't care what it is.
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If you if you speak out against this country
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And right now it's mostly come from, radical islamist,
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Then you don't you don't deserve to be here.
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So it's time to make a stand.
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Charlie started it.
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We're going to continue on with it,
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And we're going to stand up for what we believe in.
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And that's the greatest country on the face.
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The earth.
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Said sir, i, we you know, we i've commented on this, that
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I did not feel i didn't even really
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Internalize the fact that there was
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A government shutdown going on.
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This is something that
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You are actively involved in, being a part of the senate.
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I got to dc and it's like, oh, i can feel the shutdown here.
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This is like the one place where you can you can feel it.
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I understand that eventually
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Some of these paychecks for our servicemen,
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You know, might get held out, but luckily
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We found like a stopgap for that in the short term.
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Tell us about the shutdown.
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Are you optimistic
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It's going to end soon or the democrats just going to,
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You know, be, not be moved, not be, budged in this fight
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For health care for, i don't know, illegals.
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Yeah.
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Well, here's here's what you're gonna understand.
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It's the craziest thing i've ever been around.
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And i've been around a lot of crazy stuff
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In the last five years. and the biden administration.
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And now, thank goodness president trump got elected.
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But this is the budget
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That we've had for the last four years,
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And every democrat has voted for it.
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Now, all of a sudden, president trump is not in office.
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He's trying to make changes.
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He's trying to get his head above water in terms of what
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The biden administration did to our country
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And in the executive branch.
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So he's trying he's doing everything he possibly can.
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The problem is, the democrats don't like.
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And so now they want to change the narrative.
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Okay, we want a tree and and have more doubt on this budget.
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Wait a minute.
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We're spending 2 trillion more than american taxpayers
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Send already.
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We're 2 million.
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2 trillion over.
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Yeah, over the budget.
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You say $1.3 trillion of additional
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Spending for health care for illegals, able bodied
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Men and women, etc..
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Yeah.
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And take care of the health care
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That's going to rural hospitals, which is,
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If there's nothing more needed, our health
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Care, obamacare
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Ruined our health care system in this country.
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It was supposed to make it more affordable.
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More doctors, more nurses, more hospitals.
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It's done.
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Just the opposite is destroying our health care system.
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So they've got a subsidy in there
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That was put in for covid, which was fine.
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We might have needed it, but we don't need it anymore.
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It's made
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It's made things more difficult for the american people.
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And so premiums are going to go up anyway
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Because of inflation.
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But they're blaming the premiums
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That are going up on health care,
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On our insurance policies, on republicans
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Voting against this, that that's not not the case.
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So here's what's going to happen.
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I don't know whether we'll open it up again,
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But we're going to have to have
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This same conversation in december.
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And so for five weeks from now and or at the end of november.
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And so, the democrats have lost their mind.
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If they don't want to pass it, that's fine.
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President trump is going through
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The bloated government in washington, dc.
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He is furloughing and firing people that don't have a don't
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Have anything to do.
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Now they got a job making 175,000 sometime.
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Most time they work for home.
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He is getting a correction that we have desperately
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So honored to have our next guest here.
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Doctor gad sad, who is a great friend of the
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Show, has been a great friend to charlie kirk.
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He is also the, scholar.
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I want to get this title right because he has he's
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Actually, a new, wonderful title.
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Doctor gad said scholar
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At the declaration of independence center
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For the
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Study of american freedom at university of mississippi.
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He's also the author
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Of a bunch of amazing books, the parasitic mind.
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He's working on a new one.
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I want to talk to him about that.
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Doctor said maybe.
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Maybe comment really quickly.
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We've been told that american leadership on the world
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Stage was coming to attend, that trump was going to.
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To ruin america's standing in the world.
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And yet here he is, pulling off
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Win after win after win, achieving peace.
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Tie that into what it means for the west
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That america's leadership is strong and robust,
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And we're leading the way,
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To to go back to our earlier conversation
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Where many muslims say the west is a woman to be mounted.
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President trump lives in the real world
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Where he actually understands human nature.
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He he may not call himself an evolutionary psychologist,
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But he is an evolutionary psychologist,
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Because throughout his long and successful life,
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He's had to deal with many people,
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Whether it be in his real estate life or in his tv life,
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Where his ability to succeed in those forums
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Stems from his, you know, understanding of human nature.
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And so having people like joe biden and the others super
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Sweet and kind and empathetic diplomats who cross their legs
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Like justin trudeau
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Might look nice because you could show off
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Your really colorful socks.
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But that's not that's not what really
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Nasty folks around the world respect.
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Right.
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So, you know, i come from the middle east.
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In the middle east, we have the the creed, right.
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Might as right.
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Or as you probably, of course, know the old term,
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You know, if you wish to have, peace, prepare for war.
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There are endless,
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You know, military dictums that speak to the fact
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That it's nice to have a velvet glove
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While you're shaking someone's hands,
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But make sure that behind your back
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You have a really big stick, right?
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As you also know, speak softly, but carry a big stick.
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Right?
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So all of these maxims exist throughout history
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Because the world doesn't exist in a utopia,
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In a democratic, progressive utopia.
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It exists in the real world where people respect might.
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And donald trump exemplifies that.
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That's why you're seeing when after, when.
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I want to play this other clip, doctor sad
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Because it it's again, we're talking about this aoc
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Bernie town hall caroline levitz weighing in saying
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We now have the two new leaders of the democrat party.
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Tough to argue with that.
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Observation.
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But she can't.
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She's really struggled to give trump credit for his
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This peace deal in the middle east.
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And i want to dive into what that says at a deeper level
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About our politics in this country.
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261 maybe i'm wrong about the ceasefire in gaza.
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Do you believe president trump deserves credit for that?
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Well, you know, i find
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These there have been several
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Ceasefire announcements and developments
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That have happened over the past two years.
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As president trump
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Was on the plane back to the united states.
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There's already indications and questions
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About whether the ceasefire will hold.
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But do you give him credit?
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Do you give him credit, though, for getting to this point
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Where it did get those 20 hostages back home
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With their families in this particular development? yes.
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But we also know that
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President trump, was an obstacle to peace.
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Previously as well.
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Doctor said.
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What does this tell us
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About the state of politics where we can't leave
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Our domestic issues at the shoreline like we used
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To, and sort of present a united front internationally?
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You know, i thank you for that question
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Because in the way
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That i'm going to answer it, it shows the power
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Of studying psychology and behavioral science.
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So here's the answer to your wonderful question.
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There is a great book by two french
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Cognitive psychologists, by name of sperber and mercier.
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The book is titled the enigma of reason,
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Where they argued that our capacity to reason
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That not evolve in order to achieve some objective truth,
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But rather
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It evolved to win arguments so that even
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When we are applying our faculty of reasoning,
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We are doing it in a tribal coalition all manner.
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Right?
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So it doesn't matter
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If andrew convinces me that my position is wrong,
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And therefore i will have the humility to say
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Thank you for correcting me. andrew.
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You're right and i was wrong.
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I will double down,
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Triple down for evermore because my team can't lose.
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That's exactly what i always aoc is showing.
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She is showing that she's not an honest interlocutor.
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All that matters is that i don't give credit
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Where credit is due.
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I can never accept the fact
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That trump might have done something that was decent,
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And therefore i'm going to try to avoid giving him
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The due credit.
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So i suppose, is it possible, then,
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That we are able to return to a point in this country
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Where things like being an american
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Are where what we see as our tribe?
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And this is one of the reasons that i think that,
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Trump's defense of the american flag,
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Fighting against the the kneeling at the during
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The national anthem, during, the super bowl and nfl games
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That if you bring everyone under one umbrella of saying
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We're all american citizens, we may have disagreements on,
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On our sec team and our, our super bowl team, or
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Andrew and i are crosswise because his dodgers
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Beat my phillies in the, 3 to 1, and it darn near as well.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. okay. all right, i remember.
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Thank you.
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You didn't even make it interesting to get the one.
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Okay. it was 82. the one game. was it? anyway,
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We love too many men on base,
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But the point is, we can still all be american.
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And i think that it's it's the it's the messing around
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With those nuts and bolts of the country
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That have gotten us to this place
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I recently had on my show.
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And as can their freedom, the former nba player.
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Right. who retired right, right.
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For boston celtics right now
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This guy's from muslim background.
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But i don't care that he's muslim
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Even though i don't have nice things to say about islam
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Because he exemplifies
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The types of immigrants that we want
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In the united states or in the west.
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He comes
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To the united states and says, i want to be to jack's point.
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I want to be united under the common rubric called
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The united states.
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I'm canadian, yet i'm an old miss at a center
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Called the declaration of independence center
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For the study of american freedom.
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Because i embody and i i'd like to think i exemplify
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All of the values of american exceptionalism.
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So you're exactly spot on.
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No more hyphenated americans.
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If you are american, you believe
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In our foundational principles.
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And then welcome in my brother. if you don't,
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Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
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The poverty is unimaginable.
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There are people who are struggling.
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Those who are hungry.
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Forgotten jews.
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Scripture says joy can come in the morning.
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And you can be the reason.
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Bless these hurting children of israel.
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Your urgent gift today of $25 will help rush
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A survival food box filled with life saving essentials.
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Tens of thousands of elderly holocaust survivors
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In the former soviet union are living in extreme poverty.
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Hungry
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For god? the truly international
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Fellowship of christians and jews.
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We can bring hope.
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It's my favorite food.
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May you be blessed.
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Tommy Tuberville & Gad Saad: October 17, 2025 | Charlie Kirk Today

October 17, 2025 | 26:2

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