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Charlie Kirk Today | Walter Kirn & Eric Metaxas: June 10, 2026 | Charlie Kirk Today | June 10, 2026
- Going to get right into
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- The ongoing saga that is unfolding in los angeles
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- And in the state of whole, the whole state of california.
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- And, we have such a treat for you.
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- I will tell you, one of my favorite guests of the show,
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- One of my favorite thinkers in all of america,
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- One of my favorite authors in all of america is walter kirn.
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- Gosh. what?
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- He's got my hard bargain mission to america.
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- Up in the air.
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- Blood will out thumb sucker.
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- All these great books.
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- And he is the editor at large of the county
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- Highway, america's only newspaper at all.
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- They they don't even have a digital version.
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- So, without further ado, let's welcome him in.
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- Walter, good to see you, my friend.
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- Thank you for joining us.
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- I'm psyched to be here at a high leverage
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- Point for american democracy, because it either
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- Slides into the ocean or we pull it out so well.
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- Yeah, let's start right there, walter.
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- I mean, you know, so a lot more intel is kind of coming out.
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- The internet sleuths are trying to figure out
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- How the heck did somebody like nithya raman,
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- Who not many people in the country had even heard of,
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- That many, not many left wingers in l.a.
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- Knew much about her,
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- How she went from about 21% of the vote from the first 65%,
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- That was counted.
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- And then then the next 15%, she about doubled.
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- Her was 23% of the vote to about 41% of the vote.
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- So now she has overtaken
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- Spencer pratt in the number two position.
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- And i'm told by, you know, all the lefties this is just
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- The way la and california count their ballots.
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- They prioritize participation walter, not speed.
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- Well that
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- There's no way
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- For them to know whether participation
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- Has occurred because the ballots are,
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- Enigmatic documents with people behind them, presumably,
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- Whose faces we don't know, whose names we don't know,
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- Whose, circumstance dances,
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- Around, filling out the ballot or allowing it
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- To be filled out. we don't know.
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- So if what we want
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- Is participation, i can propose a much better way.
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- Everybody getting off of their butts
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- And standing in a line, talking to each other without,
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- Without, activists
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- Bothering them or holding a pen over their ballot.
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- And they
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- Participate in the ritual that has been time
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- Honored and proved to work and works in
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- Almost every other country but ours.
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- Well, and that's that's the big thing here, walter,
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- When i was, chat with you yesterday about coming on,
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- Making lack of transparency
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- Stand for participation
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- Is an orwellian inversion.
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- Like so many that are used in these,
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- In these circumstances, they've turned
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- They've turned elections that last forever
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- Into proof of their,
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- Deliberate, slow, patient,
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- Careful way of counting,
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- When in fact they're the opposite.
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- Exactly. and this is the thing.
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- So, you see, ro khanna is actually in very ro
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- Khanna fashion,
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- I will tell you, is sort of trying to split the baby.
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- He's at least saying in this, in this tweet, he just fired
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- Off, a few hours ago, actually, about an hour ago.
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- You know, he goes, you know, a close friend of mine,
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- He says this is canceling his voter registration today.
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- He is convinced spencer pratt was robbed of the election.
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- I explained to him that in california,
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- We can't count absentees.
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- First, which skew older and more conservative.
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- And election day voters are younger
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- And more democratic.
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- The slow count
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- Is largely because of policies to maximize participation,
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- Including postmarked about on election day.
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- Regardless, we need to figure out
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- How california can get the vote counted
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- Faster and results tabulated so it doesn't drag on.
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- This is classic. how can we figure it out?
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- This is such a we had it figured out.
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- Somaliland it.
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- And if you read on his whole
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- His whole point is let's throw some more money at it
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- So we can get the vote counted in 48 hours.
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- But that's like the stretch goal in california.
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- But i kind of can't
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- Stand this, walter, because he's justifying the fraud
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- And the in he's call it the impression of fraud
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- And eroding trust conspiracy theories.
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- We used that we used to have a concept
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- Called the appearance of conflict of interest,
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- Meaning that it was important that politicians
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- Not even appear to be working for outside forces or be
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- Taking money from the people that they're supposed to be
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- Writing laws, to control and regulate and so on.
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- And we were always very careful.
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- And it was thought to be
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- That sort of, height of liberal circumspection
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- To make sure
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- That there is no appearance of conflict of interest.
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- What we have now is not just the appearance of fraud
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- Or just the appearance of malfeasance, but
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- The overwhelming stench of it rising.
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- So you make your eyes water.
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- And now, in their classic fashion,
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- They've taken
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- What has now been identified
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- As a problem which they created,
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- And they want to be the ones to solve it.
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- They want, you know, create homelessness,
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- Profit from homelessness, create election, chaos.
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- Profit from chaos.
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- But but this is all fog.
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- This is all smoke.
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- You have to be able to walk through the storm,
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- And reach your destination, turning neither to the left
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- Nor the right.
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- We have to do that.
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- And our moral lives and our social lives.
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- We cannot be every voice and every,
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- Every monster that jumps out of us can't
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- Detract from our mission.
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- And our mission here is to get people elected in a way
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- That their, election
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- Will be respected by both sides.
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- Elections are, by their nature,
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- Enterprises in which half the people or around
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- Half the people are going to be dissatisfied with the result.
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- That's the essence of an election is to have it be fair.
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- Just like the essence of sports is, you know,
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- One team is going to lose at the end of this game.
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- So that's why we need referees rules.
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- You know, clear video tape of the play and so on.
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- We don't have those in elections.
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- And in that sense it really doesn't matter.
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- Legal, illegal
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- Faith is the problem.
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- And when you
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- Systematically make it impossible to have faith,
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- And when you also systematically allow
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- The conditions in which fraud traditionally grows,
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- Which are silence and darkness,
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- Then you've got
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- The end of your system on your hands.
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- What are you going to do about it?
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- And in this case, it's been so statistically
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- And in other ways blatant
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- That it almost feels like what you're going to do about it.
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- But a situation like the last, like the last time where
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- You were going to try to make this look realistic.
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- Walter kirn, the great walter kirn and county highway
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- Editor at large, novelist, thinker extraordinaire.
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- Editor at large, novelist, thinker extraordinaire.
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- Eric metaxas.
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- Welcome to the charlie kirk show.
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- Welcome to the studio, my friend.
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- It's great to be in the studio with you guys.
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- Thanks for having me here. i have no idea why you're here.
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- What's your favorite thing?
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- Now that you're here
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- And you can see the stuff on the wall,
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- We've got we've got, jonathan edwards, sinners
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- In the hands of an angry okay, well,
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- My favorite thing is there's a banner over there
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- That my team sent you guys, and you've displayed it.
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- It's usa 250.
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- You could see it over centennial.
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- The official term.
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- I told president trump this and he loved it.
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- And he spoke about it in fox news.
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- And then he forgot about it.
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- But the official term for 250 is super centennial.
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- I'm old enough to remember the bicentennial,
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- And the whole country was crazy.
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- It's our bicentennial.
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- We're celebrating our bicentennial this year.
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- It's just america 250.
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- It's like, no, no, no, we need to have a term.
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- So the term is super centennial this year.
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- This is our super centennial year.
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- And it's on the cover of my book,
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- Which we are going to discuss starting while you're here now.
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- Okay. now hear this.
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- Okay, so eric sent me this beautiful box right here.
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- And it had that banner in it.
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- It was filled with processed luncheon meats.
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- Beautiful. yeah.
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- It was like a bag of cheetos, cheese. and,
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- And a cheese and a juice box.
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- Continental army. right.
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- And i will i will confess the audience.
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- I've only read the first chapter,
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- But i will tell you, eric,
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- And you know, i don't give out compliments,
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- Especially to you, but you never have.
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- It's really hard.
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- I think you're getting better.
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- I mean, everybody knows bonhoeffer, you know?
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- Yeah. letter to the american church. yeah.
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- I mean, you've written a lot.
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- Oh, yeah. and you're you're.
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- I hate to say it, but i think you are like, now at that,
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- Like that very elite level
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- As a historian, as a storyteller.
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- This is so well done.
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- So i'll tell you something, andrew, and i really mean that.
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- No. and listen, and i'm not blowing smoke back, either.
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- When i was writing this book, i said to my wife,
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- Suzanne, many times, i said, suzanne,
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- Something's going on with the writing of this book.
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- I feel a confidence as a writer, kind of a joy
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- That i have never felt in writing a book before.
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- I it was really
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- It was notable
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- That it's almost like i've achieved something over,
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- Over the decades.
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- You know, you do something, you do something you doing,
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- And then
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- You, you get to a point where
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- I just felt this kind of confidence and joy in
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- Some of the writing that i have never felt before.
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- So i, i always want my books to be extremely readable
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- Because everybody writes books and you're like,
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- I got the book. did you read the book? no.
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- I want my books to be readable.
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- This is summer reading, ladies and gentlemen,
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- If you're an american, it's not for history buffs,
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- It's for americans.
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- Any americans should care
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- About the story of how we came into being.
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- In fact, it is necessary.
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- It's kind of why i wrote the book.
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- We need to know this.
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- This is not like for for people who are,
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- You know, i'm sort of interest.
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- No, no, no, it's an assignment.
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- You need to know how america came into being.
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- Maybe you heard it in school.
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- You probably forgot most of it like i did.
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- No excuses.
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- Every american needs to know the story.
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- That's why i wrote the book.
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- This is a standard, fun gallop through our history.
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- You know, starting 1763 to the end of the french
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- And indian war, which leads the revolution,
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- All the stories of revolution and the
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- The heroes, the people, the stories.
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- Honestly, it used to be this amazing
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- Classic story you just think of.
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- If you go back to the 1800s,
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- Americans knew all these classic figures,
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- You need to go back to the 1800s.
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- You could go back to 1960.
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- I've said this, and i know this.
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- If you stick a microphone anybody's face.
- 00:11:02.489 --> 00:11:04.657
- Mainstream american, 1960.
- 00:11:04.657 --> 00:11:06.559
- Every single person, every american knew everything
- 00:11:06.559 --> 00:11:10.163
- That's in this book.
- 00:11:10.163 --> 00:11:11.030
- Nathan hale, you mentioned nathan hale.
- 00:11:11.030 --> 00:11:13.066
- There's a chapter in here.
- 00:11:13.066 --> 00:11:14.300
- Nathan hale, one of the great heroes of american history.
- 00:11:14.300 --> 00:11:16.803
- We should know everything about him.
- 00:11:16.803 --> 00:11:18.805
- What an inspiration. and what a profound christian.
- 00:11:18.805 --> 00:11:21.341
- I mean, amazing, brilliant yale graduate.
- 00:11:21.341 --> 00:11:24.210
- That's before yale went to hell, before my time.
- 00:11:24.210 --> 00:11:26.846
- But all
- 00:11:26.846 --> 00:11:28.081
- These stories are beautiful, and we all used to know them.
- 00:11:28.081 --> 00:11:31.484
- And that's why i wrote the book.
- 00:11:31.484 --> 00:11:32.685
- I said, i know there folks who don't know this.
- 00:11:32.685 --> 00:11:34.888
- It's so important
- 00:11:34.888 --> 00:11:36.122
- Because we obviously we care about america's actual religion
- 00:11:36.122 --> 00:11:39.025
- With christianity.
- 00:11:39.025 --> 00:11:39.926
- But you need the country needs to have
- 00:11:39.926 --> 00:11:41.161
- Its secular religion as well, which is its secular heroes.
- 00:11:41.161 --> 00:11:44.297
- You've
- 00:11:44.297 --> 00:11:45.331
- Especially because we're this diverse country,
- 00:11:45.331 --> 00:11:47.433
- You actually need everyone to think,
- 00:11:47.433 --> 00:11:49.135
- But george washington rocks.
- 00:11:49.135 --> 00:11:50.603
- But blake, here's the problem.
- 00:11:50.603 --> 00:11:51.805
- All these quote unquote secular heroes are fire
- 00:11:51.805 --> 00:11:54.641
- Breathing christians.
- 00:11:54.641 --> 00:11:55.909
- Every this is this is what i didn't know
- 00:11:55.909 --> 00:11:58.578
- When i started to write the book.
- 00:11:58.578 --> 00:12:00.280
- And that's what the big news is for me.
- 00:12:00.280 --> 00:12:02.715
- When people said, eric, what you're at, you're writing
- 00:12:02.715 --> 00:12:04.450
- A book on the revolution, what's your angle?
- 00:12:04.450 --> 00:12:05.685
- I said, i have no angle.
- 00:12:05.685 --> 00:12:06.786
- I'm just going to write a story that's in one volume
- 00:12:06.786 --> 00:12:09.889
- Because, you know, you can read 30 books or ten books.
- 00:12:09.889 --> 00:12:11.758
- I just want one volume. it's everything is right here.
- 00:12:11.758 --> 00:12:14.327
- This is what you need to know.
- 00:12:14.327 --> 00:12:15.929
- So i have no angle which is can tell the story.
- 00:12:15.929 --> 00:12:17.530
- It's going to be fun. you know,
- 00:12:17.530 --> 00:12:19.032
- When i did the research, everywhere
- 00:12:19.766 --> 00:12:22.569
- I looked, i was astonished over and over and over.
- 00:12:22.569 --> 00:12:25.605
- This is a christian story.
- 00:12:25.605 --> 00:12:27.874
- Every player in it is a christian.
- 00:12:27.874 --> 00:12:30.410
- You could maybe say franklin and jefferson are iffy
- 00:12:30.410 --> 00:12:34.047
- And that's another story. but they still got
- 00:12:34.047 --> 00:12:35.715
- The christian narrative dramatically.
- 00:12:35.715 --> 00:12:37.917
- The whole way this comes into being comes
- 00:12:37.917 --> 00:12:41.187
- Out of the reformation puritan theology.
- 00:12:41.187 --> 00:12:43.923
- You get no america without god.
- 00:12:43.923 --> 00:12:45.625
- And the proof, the reason that tells
- 00:12:45.625 --> 00:12:46.860
- Revolution that the american revolution
- 00:12:46.860 --> 00:12:48.895
- Is because i make the case and i think it's open and shut.
- 00:12:48.895 --> 00:12:52.165
- There's no other revolution that succeeded.
- 00:12:52.165 --> 00:12:53.700
- The french revolution is a joke.
- 00:12:53.700 --> 00:12:55.301
- It ends in a bloodbath.
- 00:12:55.301 --> 00:12:56.736
- They get rid of a king.
- 00:12:56.736 --> 00:12:57.937
- And what happens?
- 00:12:57.937 --> 00:12:59.005
- They replace him with, oh yeah, a dictator emperor.
- 00:12:59.005 --> 00:13:01.975
- How did that go for you? for france.
- 00:13:01.975 --> 00:13:03.877
- So every revolution
- 00:13:03.877 --> 00:13:05.411
- That they call itself a revolution succeeds.
- 00:13:05.411 --> 00:13:07.580
- It fails.
- 00:13:07.580 --> 00:13:09.048
- Our revolution is the only revolution
- 00:13:09.048 --> 00:13:11.651
- In the history of the world
- 00:13:11.651 --> 00:13:13.253
- Where people said, okay, we want to govern ourselves.
- 00:13:13.253 --> 00:13:15.655
- They actually pulled it off.
- 00:13:15.655 --> 00:13:17.857
- And that is because god was at the center.
- 00:13:17.857 --> 00:13:20.827
- That is not my christian perspective.
- 00:13:20.827 --> 00:13:22.729
- That is historical fact.
- 00:13:22.729 --> 00:13:24.497
- And i prove it in the book.
- 00:13:24.497 --> 00:13:25.732
- I didn't set out to prove it,
- 00:13:25.732 --> 00:13:26.633
- But when you just look at the facts,
- 00:13:26.633 --> 00:13:28.468
- You're like, how have we not known this story?
- 00:13:28.468 --> 00:13:31.037
- How have we not known that it was born out
- 00:13:31.037 --> 00:13:33.773
- Of people wanting to create a christian government
- 00:13:33.773 --> 00:13:36.843
- Where people govern themselves?
- 00:13:36.843 --> 00:13:38.044
- Because we used to assume it and correct
- 00:13:38.044 --> 00:13:40.313
- It was an assumed true. correct.
- 00:13:40.313 --> 00:13:41.648
- And then it got challenged by a bunch of wokeism. yeah.
- 00:13:41.648 --> 00:13:44.183
- And then we had to build up antibodies.
- 00:13:44.183 --> 00:13:46.286
- I mean, i'm starting to realize that our modern environment
- 00:13:46.286 --> 00:13:51.758
- Is a series of onslaughts, attacks
- 00:13:51.758 --> 00:13:55.561
- Against, to blake's point, are civic, religious, civic myths.
- 00:13:55.561 --> 00:13:59.632
- Totally.
- 00:13:59.632 --> 00:14:00.600
- And i, i use myths in a, in a general term.
- 00:14:00.600 --> 00:14:03.036
- But they're the true histories. yeah.
- 00:14:03.036 --> 00:14:05.004
- And they're the stories that we tell our children.
- 00:14:05.004 --> 00:14:07.507
- And all of a sudden
- 00:14:07.507 --> 00:14:08.441
- They start getting attacked by the hokies.
- 00:14:08.441 --> 00:14:09.876
- And then we need to figure out,
- 00:14:09.876 --> 00:14:11.110
- Oh, this is actually something we need to be able to defend.
- 00:14:11.110 --> 00:14:13.313
- And so then we have to gear up and tool up and defend them.
- 00:14:13.313 --> 00:14:16.215
- Right.
- 00:14:16.215 --> 00:14:17.150
- But i really want to make the point here.
- 00:14:17.150 --> 00:14:19.285
- Yes. you sort of reveal this
- 00:14:19.285 --> 00:14:22.088
- Through the telling of the story. yeah.
- 00:14:22.088 --> 00:14:23.556
- Through your own research. yeah.
- 00:14:23.556 --> 00:14:24.891
- But this is like really readable.
- 00:14:24.891 --> 00:14:27.727
- History. yes.
- 00:14:27.727 --> 00:14:29.095
- I mean, you just the opening scene
- 00:14:29.095 --> 00:14:30.396
- Of the revolution parliament debates
- 00:14:30.396 --> 00:14:31.898
- The stand back mob violence comes to boston.
- 00:14:31.898 --> 00:14:34.133
- John adams waxes prophetic.
- 00:14:34.133 --> 00:14:35.935
- The stamp act takes effect, the stamp is repealed.
- 00:14:35.935 --> 00:14:39.038
- The town's an ex liberty affair on the road to bloodshed.
- 00:14:39.038 --> 00:14:41.841
- I mean, this is actual history, and it's so readable
- 00:14:41.841 --> 00:14:44.844
- And it's it's so insanely tear down
- 00:14:44.844 --> 00:14:46.512
- Because we're really such a blessed country.
- 00:14:46.512 --> 00:14:48.114
- Like, if you're if you're a modern french person,
- 00:14:48.114 --> 00:14:50.183
- The french revolution
- 00:14:50.183 --> 00:14:51.184
- Is the founding event of your modern country,
- 00:14:51.184 --> 00:14:52.585
- And it is a bloodbath that goes horrible
- 00:14:52.585 --> 00:14:54.887
- And basically genocide and just totally crushes us.
- 00:14:54.887 --> 00:14:58.791
- We're so blessed
- 00:14:58.791 --> 00:14:59.759
- That our founding events yes, a revolution
- 00:14:59.759 --> 00:15:01.728
- Which could have gone really awry, ends.
- 00:15:01.728 --> 00:15:03.863
- Amazingly, we end up with a prosperous
- 00:15:03.863 --> 00:15:06.599
- Constitutional republic.
- 00:15:06.599 --> 00:15:08.301
- But you have to ask why?
- 00:15:08.301 --> 00:15:09.769
- And that's the that's the point that came to me.
- 00:15:09.769 --> 00:15:12.171
- And again, i happily always confess my ignorance.
- 00:15:12.171 --> 00:15:15.675
- I'm not somebody who knew all this
- 00:15:15.675 --> 00:15:17.276
- And said, oh, i need to put in a book.
- 00:15:17.276 --> 00:15:18.711
- I didn't know this.
- 00:15:18.711 --> 00:15:19.712
- I only knew i want to write a readable story
- 00:15:19.712 --> 00:15:23.716
- Of what happened 250 years ago, in time for the 250th
- 00:15:23.716 --> 00:15:26.552
- Super centennial. that's my goal.
- 00:15:26.552 --> 00:15:28.388
- In the course of doing a ton of research,
- 00:15:28.388 --> 00:15:31.224
- This evidence comes to me.
- 00:15:31.224 --> 00:15:32.525
- I thought, how in the world did i not know this?
- 00:15:32.525 --> 00:15:35.561
- How does every american not know this?
- 00:15:35.561 --> 00:15:37.296
- It's because all of these guys in this revolution
- 00:15:37.296 --> 00:15:40.867
- Were looking directly to god.
- 00:15:40.867 --> 00:15:42.468
- They wanted to go back to the sinai
- 00:15:42.468 --> 00:15:44.537
- Covenant of the israelites in the wilderness.
- 00:15:44.537 --> 00:15:46.205
- They had this old testament theology
- 00:15:46.205 --> 00:15:47.707
- That that we're going to get rid of a king.
- 00:15:47.707 --> 00:15:49.475
- We're going to get out from under pharaoh,
- 00:15:49.475 --> 00:15:51.444
- And we're going to look directly to god.
- 00:15:51.444 --> 00:15:53.046
- And only by doing that can we govern ourselves.
- 00:15:53.046 --> 00:15:55.848
- There's nobody in this book who didn't get that.
- 00:15:55.848 --> 00:15:59.285
- They all got the narrative.
- 00:15:59.285 --> 00:16:00.453
- I mean, everybody, including jefferson and franklin.
- 00:16:00.453 --> 00:16:02.922
- How have we gotten to a point where most americans
- 00:16:02.922 --> 00:16:05.758
- Don't know this?
- 00:16:05.758 --> 00:16:06.426
- That's that's what stunned me.
- 00:16:06.426 --> 00:16:08.428
- And again, that's not the point of the book.
- 00:16:08.428 --> 00:16:09.862
- But if you read the book, it's all through the book.
- 00:16:09.862 --> 00:16:11.831
- It's it's not avoidable.
- 00:16:11.831 --> 00:16:16.007
- It's it's not avoidable.
- 00:16:16.007 --> 00:16:21.609
- Eric is the author
- 00:16:22.043 --> 00:16:23.078
- Of the new book called revolution
- 00:16:23.078 --> 00:16:25.980
- The birth of the greatest nation
- 00:16:26.681 --> 00:16:28.216
- In the history of the world
- 00:16:28.216 --> 00:16:29.918
- A new accounting by eric metaxas,
- 00:16:29.918 --> 00:16:31.986
- Bestselling author of bonhoeffer
- 00:16:31.986 --> 00:16:33.388
- And many other things. it's a beautiful book.
- 00:16:33.388 --> 00:16:35.557
- It's so well done, and i'm very proud of my friend
- 00:16:35.557 --> 00:16:38.259
- Of what he's accomplished here.
- 00:16:38.259 --> 00:16:39.494
- People don't realize, writing a book is like birthing
- 00:16:39.494 --> 00:16:42.197
- A child. it's a huge undertaking. yeah.
- 00:16:42.197 --> 00:16:44.099
- So congratulations, eric. thank you.
- 00:16:44.099 --> 00:16:46.501
- Yeah, i know, because, listen, go buy the book.
- 00:16:46.501 --> 00:16:49.804
- Just get it.
- 00:16:49.804 --> 00:16:50.872
- But i know that amazon is.
- 00:16:50.872 --> 00:16:53.274
- They printed out tens of thousands of these things.
- 00:16:53.274 --> 00:16:55.577
- They're already sold out.
- 00:16:55.577 --> 00:16:56.578
- It's it's sound like hotcakes.
- 00:16:56.578 --> 00:16:58.113
- So get yours today. do not wait.
- 00:16:58.113 --> 00:17:00.615
- It will get to you.
- 00:17:00.615 --> 00:17:01.916
- Because somebody said that books-a-million has copies
- 00:17:01.916 --> 00:17:04.953
- Because i think amazon is is saying like,
- 00:17:04.953 --> 00:17:07.622
- They're sold out. or if you want one,
- 00:17:07.622 --> 00:17:09.157
- You might not get it by father's day.
- 00:17:09.157 --> 00:17:10.925
- So i think books-a-million has enough books to get it.
- 00:17:10.925 --> 00:17:13.561
- But i think even if you order from amazon,
- 00:17:13.561 --> 00:17:15.463
- You'll get it before father's day.
- 00:17:15.463 --> 00:17:16.498
- But they're not guaranteeing it.
- 00:17:16.498 --> 00:17:17.932
- But this is good news.
- 00:17:17.932 --> 00:17:18.867
- This means that people are buying the book.
- 00:17:18.867 --> 00:17:20.602
- And my assignment for america,
- 00:17:20.602 --> 00:17:22.470
- You got to read this this summer.
- 00:17:22.470 --> 00:17:23.838
- I don't care if you steal it, you got to not steal it.
- 00:17:23.838 --> 00:17:26.774
- America's.
- 00:17:26.774 --> 00:17:27.742
- You got to know where you can steal it from.
- 00:17:27.742 --> 00:17:29.344
- You know your brother from your brother.
- 00:17:29.344 --> 00:17:31.713
- But you can.
- 00:17:31.713 --> 00:17:32.847
- But i guess the point is that we have an assignment.
- 00:17:32.847 --> 00:17:34.983
- We need to know our story.
- 00:17:34.983 --> 00:17:37.118
- And that's not like it's not extra credit.
- 00:17:37.118 --> 00:17:40.221
- The reason we've drifted so far. you know this.
- 00:17:40.221 --> 00:17:42.190
- You guys know this is because we don't know this stuff.
- 00:17:42.190 --> 00:17:45.260
- We've forgotten this stuff.
- 00:17:45.260 --> 00:17:46.461
- We've taken it for granted. we've let it slide.
- 00:17:46.461 --> 00:17:48.730
- If you don't know
- 00:17:48.730 --> 00:17:49.797
- The biblical roots of the founding of america
- 00:17:49.797 --> 00:17:52.500
- That all of the founders understood that, then you're
- 00:17:52.500 --> 00:17:56.104
- You're really missing it.
- 00:17:56.104 --> 00:17:57.138
- And you can't we can't sustain what we have.
- 00:17:57.138 --> 00:18:00.208
- You cannot have liberty
- 00:18:00.208 --> 00:18:01.709
- Without people looking to god being virtuous.
- 00:18:01.709 --> 00:18:04.712
- And again, that's not what the book's about.
- 00:18:04.712 --> 00:18:05.947
- But you just can't help but see george washington.
- 00:18:05.947 --> 00:18:08.616
- Oh my gosh.
- 00:18:08.616 --> 00:18:10.585
- This was a man.
- 00:18:09.817 --> 00:18:11.452
- When they say he's a deist,
- 00:18:11.452 --> 00:18:13.021
- That is like, you might as well say he's a radical muslim.
- 00:18:13.021 --> 00:18:16.090
- It's the dumbest thing.
- 00:18:16.090 --> 00:18:17.859
- These were men. they were they were christians.
- 00:18:17.859 --> 00:18:19.527
- You you've, given the country a great gift here.
- 00:18:19.527 --> 00:18:23.031
- Eric, honestly, thank you for this.
- 00:18:23.031 --> 00:18:24.799
- I got it.
- 00:18:24.799 --> 00:18:25.867
- We got to light up. jasmine crockett. let's do it.
- 00:18:25.867 --> 00:18:28.469
- Splc hearing jim jordan.
- 00:18:29.003 --> 00:18:31.372
- Judiciary committee's doing it.
- 00:18:31.372 --> 00:18:32.740
- I submitted a letter for this.
- 00:18:32.740 --> 00:18:33.841
- We have some of our students in the room.
- 00:18:33.841 --> 00:18:35.577
- Jasmine crockett took it upon herself to make a fool of her.
- 00:18:35.577 --> 00:18:38.413
- Of herself again. let's play 36.
- 00:18:38.413 --> 00:18:40.949
- I know some of y'all are, you know, capon for charlie kirk
- 00:18:40.949 --> 00:18:45.520
- Because i hadn't heard y'all talk
- 00:18:45.520 --> 00:18:46.854
- About his organization over and over and over.
- 00:18:46.854 --> 00:18:49.557
- So i'm not going to play with
- 00:18:49.557 --> 00:18:50.758
- Anybody who's going to play with my time.
- 00:18:50.758 --> 00:18:52.093
- So i'm going directly to miss mccord.
- 00:18:52.093 --> 00:18:54.095
- If i see a black pilot, i'm
- 00:18:54.095 --> 00:18:56.965
- Going to be like, boy, i hope he's qualified.
- 00:18:56.965 --> 00:18:59.867
- Does that sound like a hater or not?
- 00:18:59.867 --> 00:19:03.338
- That sounds like a racial stereotype.
- 00:19:03.338 --> 00:19:05.707
- Okay. sounds good to me.
- 00:19:05.707 --> 00:19:06.975
- We made a huge mistake when we passed
- 00:19:06.975 --> 00:19:10.044
- The civil rights act in the mid 1960s.
- 00:19:10.044 --> 00:19:14.015
- Sounds like
- 00:19:14.349 --> 00:19:15.283
- Someone who, still adheres to racist views.
- 00:19:15.283 --> 00:19:18.653
- Okay, america has freedom of religion.
- 00:19:18.653 --> 00:19:21.189
- Of course, but we should be frank.
- 00:19:21.189 --> 00:19:23.625
- Large dedicated islamic areas are a threat to america.
- 00:19:23.625 --> 00:19:27.962
- These all just happen
- 00:19:28.463 --> 00:19:29.430
- To be comments from the fearless leader
- 00:19:29.430 --> 00:19:32.133
- Of, turning point usa.
- 00:19:32.133 --> 00:19:35.169
- So i could see where splc was going.
- 00:19:35.169 --> 00:19:37.805
- It's funny she's written all this plc.
- 00:19:37.805 --> 00:19:39.574
- Charlie.
- 00:19:39.574 --> 00:19:40.675
- Never, charlie never funded a klan cross burning.
- 00:19:40.675 --> 00:19:42.176
- Or as the plc has.
- 00:19:42.176 --> 00:19:43.611
- Yeah, multiple times.
- 00:19:43.611 --> 00:19:44.812
- Paid millions of dollars to kkk members.
- 00:19:44.812 --> 00:19:47.448
- Okay, jasmine crockett, let's go by one by one here.
- 00:19:47.448 --> 00:19:49.817
- Black pilots.
- 00:19:49.817 --> 00:19:51.052
- That is a bastard.
- 00:19:51.052 --> 00:19:52.387
- Rise out of context.
- 00:19:52.387 --> 00:19:53.621
- Clip bingo, where charlie was reflecting
- 00:19:53.621 --> 00:19:56.357
- On the fact that the ceo of united was going
- 00:19:56.357 --> 00:19:59.394
- To mandate racial quotas and gender quotas
- 00:19:59.394 --> 00:20:02.664
- On the new pilot class, taking it from about 8,515%, 85
- 00:20:02.664 --> 00:20:07.302
- Straight white men or white men in general,
- 00:20:07.302 --> 00:20:09.437
- To 15% minorities, and going to mandate that
- 00:20:09.437 --> 00:20:11.873
- The new pilot class was 5050 on his questions.
- 00:20:11.873 --> 00:20:15.076
- Are there enough black pilots to to make 50%?
- 00:20:15.076 --> 00:20:17.945
- Are there enough minority pilots
- 00:20:17.945 --> 00:20:19.180
- To make up 50% of the new pilot class?
- 00:20:19.180 --> 00:20:21.382
- Other on his questions, are you can you guarantee that
- 00:20:21.382 --> 00:20:24.719
- The safety standards will continue to be met at 85,
- 00:20:24.719 --> 00:20:28.222
- 15, going to 50, 50?
- 00:20:28.222 --> 00:20:29.924
- Lots of honest questions.
- 00:20:29.924 --> 00:20:31.092
- If you were going to force racial quotas into the system,
- 00:20:31.092 --> 00:20:33.895
- Every time that happens, quality fed standards drop.
- 00:20:33.895 --> 00:20:38.299
- You see this in medical schools.
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- You see this in policing.
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- This is a joke.
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- So charlie
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- Responded, that says, i don't do this now,
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- But if you're going to enforce it, i'm going to say,
- 00:20:45.373 --> 00:20:47.308
- Hey, i hope he's qualified, because guess what?
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- That is a actual logical and rational reaction
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- To charlie believed in equality.
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- Charlie believes in having equal standards for people,
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- And you accept whatever the consequences is.
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- If you say you have to be
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- The most qualified person to become a pilot,
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- And that means white dudes become pilots, great.
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- Everyone's safer because they're
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- Flying on planes with good pilots. yeah.
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- Let's go to the civil rights act. comment.
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- Civil rights act.
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- Eric,
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- Did you know that the supreme court agreed with charlie kirk
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- Because they just gutted the vra, right. okay.
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- So the voting rights act,
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- So something different, but it's same era.
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- And charlie would
- 00:21:19.674 --> 00:21:20.708
- Sort of making that comment about all of that.
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- The it created racial gerrymandered lines.
- 00:21:22.577 --> 00:21:24.879
- Guess what else the civil rights act
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- Has been been used to do.
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- Civil rights act has been used to, reinforce trans,
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- Dudes, dudes
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- That think they're women to go into women's locker room.
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- Those,
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- Those laws have been bastardized
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- And used to corrupt women's sports.
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- That actually is totally a fair critique
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- That you could agree.
- 00:21:42.196 --> 00:21:43.364
- Charlie also said, i agree with the intent of the civil
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- Rights act, but it went too far.
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- It became extra constitutional.
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- It became the new constitution.
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- The new founding of america
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- Did the opposite of what people thought it was going to do,
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- Which is they wanted to abolish discrimination.
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- Instead, it mandates discrimination.
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- And the civil rights act
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- Is why we have laws that just say, actually,
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- Your office needs to do affirmative action.
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- You need to do all this favoritism.
- 00:22:04.619 --> 00:22:06.354
- It's why we get anti-white discrimination in university
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- Admissions and hiring and government contracts.
- 00:22:09.357 --> 00:22:11.592
- All of these things are downstream of that.
- 00:22:11.592 --> 00:22:13.227
- And charlie said, no, america's principle is equality.
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- Equality under the law for individuals.
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- Well, and then they go after the islamic, question.
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- So charlie said, listen,
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- It's not good to have whole neighborhoods
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- That are established on like sharia law.
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- Whoa, that's super controversial.
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- Oh, that's and i just couldn't get over the fact
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- That she goes to the splc rep and she goes, well,
- 00:22:32.713 --> 00:22:34.882
- That seems like racial animus and that seems like, bigotry
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- And that seems. no, it's called common sense.
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- We don't want people that are, subject
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- Subjugating other people, taxing them, creating,
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- Streets named after islamic conquerors.
- 00:22:46.594 --> 00:22:49.464
- It's worse than that. they're they're beating.
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- They're they're beating their wives.
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- Let's be honest.
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- They are beating their wives.
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- And they're saying, according to our laws,
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- That is absolutely fine.
- 00:22:59.273 --> 00:23:00.942
- Well, according to the american laws, it's not fine.
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- So the idea that we're going to
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- Have an area that's not going to abide
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- By the rules of the united states
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- Of america, obviously, that's the problem.
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- Guess what? i'll go one step further.
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- No more islamic immigration into the country.
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- It's bad for the country. we're a christian nation.
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- We're founded
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- As a christian nation,
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- And we will continue to be a christian nation
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- If i have something to do about it.
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- God bless you, eric metaxas. god bless you.
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- Thanks for having me.
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