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October 8, 2019
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Conversations with Better Together – Mike Huckabee hosts Laurie Crouch, CeCe Winans, Lisa Harper, Nathalie Grant, Alex Seeley and Kari Jobe

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  • LAURIE CROUCH, LISA HARPER, ALEX SEELEY, NATALIE GRANT,
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  • CECE WINANS AND KARI JOBE.
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  • DON'T MISS MIKE HUCKABEE'S EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW
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  • WITH THE LADIES OF BETTER TOGETHER, NEXT ON CONVERSATIONS.
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  • - WELCOME TO CONVERSATIONS HERE ON TBN.
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  • TELEVISION SHOWS AIMED AT AMERICAN WOMEN
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  • OF BROADCASTERS SINCE THE BEGINNINGS OF TV.
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  • BUT IT WAS IN 1983 THAT THE FIRST SYNDICATED
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  • WOMEN'S TALK SHOW BEGAN WITH SALLY JESSY RAPHAEL.
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  • OPRAH WINFREY TOOK IT TO NEW HEIGHTS
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  • AND THEN IN 1997, THE FIRST WOMEN'S PANEL SHOW WAS LAUNCHED.
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  • IT OPENED UP NEW AVENUES FOR WOMEN
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  • TO DISCUSS NEWS AND ISSUES,
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  • LIFE AND RELATIONSHIPS.
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  • WELL, TODAY YOU'RE GONNA MEET A GROUP OF WOMEN
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  • WHO ARE GATHERING TO TACKLE ISSUES THAT ARE IN THE NEWS
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  • AS WELL AS IN DAILY LIFE.
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  • BUT THEY'RE OFFERING PRACTICAL HELP AND SPIRITUAL HOPE
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  • RATHER THAN JUST HAVING DISCUSSION AND OPINION.
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  • IT'S ALL PART OF A NEW TELEVISION SHOW
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  • CALLED BETTER TOGETHER RIGHT HERE ON TBN.
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  • I HAD THE CHANCE TO SIT DOWN WITH CREATOR, LAURIE CROUCH
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  • AND HER BAND OF SISTERS TO FIND OUT WHY THEY FELT NOW
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  • WAS THE TIME FOR THIS FRESH AND INNOVATIVE WOMEN'S PROGRAM.
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  • CLEARLY I DON'T BELONG IN THIS GROUP.
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  • [LADIES LAUGHING]
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  • I MEAN THE ONE OBVIOUS THING IS WHAT AM I DOING HERE?
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  • BUT THIS IS GONNA BE SO MUCH FUN JUST CHATTING
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  • WITH ALL OF YOU AND I'M GONNA GET TO LISTEN IN
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  • ON WOMEN'S CONVERSATIONS.
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  • - OHH. - THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S RIGHT.
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  • - IT'S GOING TO BE INTERESTING.
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  • - YOU'RE A LUCKY MAN.
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  • - BUT I PROMISE I WON'T TELL A SOUL WHAT YOU SAY.
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  • ALL THESE PEOPLE WILL BE WATCHING ON TELEVISION.
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  • LAURIE, LET ME START WITH YOU
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  • BECAUSE THE VISION OF THIS SHOW, BETTER TOGETHER,
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  • GREAT IDEA BRINGING CHRISTIAN WOMEN TOGETHER TO TALK
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  • ABOUT THE THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO WOMEN EVERYWHERE.
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  • - YEAH.
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  • - SO, WHAT DO YOU HOPE HAPPENS?
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  • - WELL I HOPE THAT WE BRING HOPE.
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  • I HOPE WE BRING ENCOURAGEMENT AND EDIFICATION
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  • AND THERE'S OTHER WOMEN SHOWS WHERE THEY'RE JUST TRASHING
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  • PEOPLE AND ALL THAT AND WE JUST WANT TO BRING,
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  • WE WANT TO BRING THE LOVE.
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  • YOU KNOW, WE WAKE UP TO HOPE AND GRACE ON TBN
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  • EVERYDAY AND MY MOTHER-IN-LAW LOOKED AT ME.
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  • ONE OF THE LAST THINGS SHE SAID TO ME WAS,
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  • "IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO BRING THE LOVE FOR WOMEN".
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  • AND I KNEW I COULDN'T DO THAT BY MYSELF AND I SAID,
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  • I'VE GOTTA GET MY FRIENDS TOGETHER.
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  • AND, 'CAUSE WE'RE BETTER TOGETHER.
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  • AND THAT'S HOW IT STARTED.
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  • - WELL, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL CONCEPT.
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  • CECE, YOU KNOW I THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT THERE'S THE VIEW.
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  • I'VE DONE THAT SHOW BEFORE.
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  • I'M STILL ALIVE, BARELY.
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  • [LADIES LAUGHING]
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  • I'VE DONE OUTNUMBERED ON FOX NEWS BEFORE
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  • BUT THIS IS DIFFERENT, THIS IS UNIQUE
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  • IN THAT EACH ONE OF YOU COME WITH A SPIRITUAL COMMITMENT.
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  • AND YOU'RE REALLY NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT ISSUES.
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  • YOU'RE TALKING AMONG WOMEN,
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  • BUT TO WOMEN ABOUT THINGS THAT MATTER.
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  • - YEAH.
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  • - WHAT DO YOU THINK IS SO IMPORTANT
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  • THAT MOST WOMEN NEED TO TALK ABOUT?
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  • - WELL I THINK, I MEAN ONE OF THE THINGS I LOVE
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  • ABOUT THE SHOW, AS BELIEVERS SOMETIMES PEOPLE THINK,
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  • OUR FAITH IS CONFINED TO SUNDAY MORNINGS.
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  • YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? - RIGHT, RIGHT.
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  • - BUT IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT WOMEN ALL OVER THE WORLD
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  • KNOW HOW YOU FIT YOUR FAITH OR YOUR FAITH IS A PART
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  • OF YOUR EVERYDAY LIFE.
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  • AND SO, JUST BECAUSE WE'RE BELIEVERS
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  • DOESN'T MEAN WE DON'T HAVE A BAD DAY.
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  • YOU KNOW, WE GO THROUGH ROUGH THINGS LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE
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  • BUT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO KNOW
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  • HOW JESUS COMES THROUGH THAT, HOW OUR FAITH,
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  • HOW THE LOVE OF GOD SHINES THROUGH THOSE TIMES
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  • AND THAT'S WHAT I ENJOY ABOUT THE SHOW.
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  • AND I THINK EVERY WOMAN,
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  • NO MATTER WHERE YOU COME FROM CAN RELATE TO THAT.
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  • THEY NEED THAT. - RIGHT, RIGHT.
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  • - SO ALEX, YOU KNOW SOMETIMES GUYS SEE WOMEN HUDDLE TOGETHER
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  • AND WE WONDER, [LAUGHS]
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  • WHAT ARE YOU GUYS TALKIN' ABOUT?
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  • -[ALEX] TALKIN' ABOUT YOU.
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  • [LAUGHS]
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  • - ARE WE GONNA HAVE THAT CONVERSATION HERE TODAY?
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  • - ABSOLUTELY.
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  • I THINK LAURIE PUT IT BEAUTIFULLY
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  • LAST TIME WE WERE TOGETHER.
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  • SHE WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW MATT HAD ALWAYS NOTICED THAT
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  • WHEN THERE WAS A DINNER, THERE WAS ALWAYS GIRLS ON ONE SIDE
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  • AND GUYS ON THE OTHER AND THE GUYS ARE WONDERING,
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  • WHAT ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT?
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  • AND WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT TO CAPTURE WHAT'S BEING SAID
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  • 'CAUSE I THINK SO MUCH GOLD IS EXCHANGED IN CONVERSATION.
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  • THAT WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT TO GET IN SOME OF THESE
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  • CONVERSATIONS TO ACTUALLY HEAR IT'S NOT SCRIPTED.
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  • IT'S NOT FAKE, BUT IT'S REAL LIFE AND IT'S OUR HEART.
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  • BUT WE'RE BRINGING A BIBLICAL PERSPECTIVE,
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  • NOT JUST OUR OPINION.
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  • SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.
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  • - SO NATALIE, WHEN YOU HAVE THIS CONVERSATION,
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  • ARE YOU GONNA BE ABLE TO BE AS CANDID
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  • IN THIS GROUP WITH ME HERE AS YOU
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  • WOULD BE IF I WEREN'T HERE?
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  • - WELL A PART OF ME ALREADY FEELS LIKE THIS IS JUST FAMILY
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  • BECAUSE I GREW UP WITH ONE BROTHER
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  • AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF WOMEN.
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  • SO, I TELL PEOPLE THAT I FEEL LIKE I DIDN'T ACTUALLY
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  • MEET MY BROTHER 'TIL HE WAS LIKE 20 YEARS OLD 'CAUSE HE HID.
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  • 'CAUSE THERE WAS JUST SO MUCH CONVERSATION HAPPENING.
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  • I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE BEAUTIFUL THINGS ABOUT THIS SHOW
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  • THOUGH, THAT IT'S NOT FAKE.
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  • IT'S REAL.
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  • AND I THINK THAT WE TALK ABOUT SOMETIMES,
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  • WHAT WE JUST SAID WHICH WAS CONVERSATION THAT HAPPENS
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  • WHEN THE WOMEN ARE ALL TOGETHER AND SOMETIMES ACTUALLY,
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  • THAT CONVERSATION'S REALLY UNHEALTHY.
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  • AND I THINK THAT THIS SHOW HELPS TO CULTIVATE HEALTHY
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  • CONVERSATION. - RIGHT, YEAH.
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  • - ABOUT OUR IDENTITY IN CHRIST.
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  • WHICH EVERYBODY STRUGGLES WITH BUT ESPECIALLY WOMEN.
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  • YOU HAVE THIS IDEA IN CULTURE THAT YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO PUT
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  • YOUR BEST FOOT FORWARD.
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  • THAT YOU HAVE TO PUT ON THIS FACADE,
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  • THAT YOUR FAMILY IS PERFECT, YOUR LIFE IS PERFECT.
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  • EVERYTHING IS WONDERFUL. - RIGHT.
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  • - AND THAT'S JUST SO NOT TRUE.
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  • SOMETIMES IT'S JUST TERRIBLE.
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  • AND YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO SAY IT IN A WAY
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  • BUT NOT WALLOW IN THE UGH, AND THE COMPLAINING.
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  • BUT LIKE, OKAY WE CAN BE HONEST ABOUT OUR LIFE,
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  • WE CAN BE CANDID ABOUT OUR ISSUES BUT WE COME BACK
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  • TO THAT SPIRITUAL TRUTH AND OUR IDENTITY IN CHRIST,
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  • WHICH IS WHAT MAKES ALL THE DIFFERENCE.
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  • - KARI IS IT HARD TO BE OPEN AS A CELEBRITY?
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  • SOMEBODY THAT PEOPLE SEE AS A PUBLIC FIGURE,
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  • [LAUGHING] NO SERIOUSLY.
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  • DO YOU FEEL SO VULNERABLE IF YOU OPEN UP
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  • BECAUSE PEOPLE SEE YOU AS THIS PERSON ON THE STAGE,
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  • DO THEY GET A LITTLE FRIGHTENED
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  • IF YOU GET TOO HONEST WITH THEM
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  • OR IS THAT WHAT MAKES THIS WHOLE DYNAMIC REALLY WORK?
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  • - THAT'S WHAT MAKES THIS WHOLE THING.
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  • I DON'T THINK I KNOW HOW TO NOT BE VULNERABLE
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  • AND TRANSPARENT AND RAW.
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  • BECAUSE I'VE JUST LIVED MY LIFE THAT WAY.
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  • YOU KNOW, SO MANY TIMES I'LL BE ON STAGE
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  • AND, LIKE AT CHURCH THE OTHER NIGHT.
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  • THE SPIRIT OF GOD WAS SO STRONG IN THE ROOM
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  • AND I JUST STARTED CRYING AND COULDN'T SING.
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  • YOU KNOW, THOSE MOMENTS WHEN YOU'RE LIKE.
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  • - OH YEAH, THE UGLY CRY.
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  • - THE UGLY CRY AND YOUR VOCAL CHORDS WON'T WORK.
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  • AND I HAD TO JUST STOP FOR A MOMENT AND SHARE MY HEART
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  • AND JUST SAY WHAT WAS GOING ON IN MY HEART.
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  • BUT I THINK THAT TRANSPARENCY AND THAT VULNERABILITY
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  • ALWAYS BRINGS A BREAKTHROUGH FOR OTHER PEOPLE.
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  • SO I, I LOVE BEING, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING DIFFERENT.
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  • AND I THINK IT'S REALLY BEAUTIFUL WHEN
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  • BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING TO HIDE.
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  • THERE'S NOTHING TO GET BEHIND OR A FACADE,
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  • JUST BEING US BRINGS BREAKTHROUGH FOR OTHER PEOPLE.
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  • - WELL KARI I WANT YOU TO KNOW, WHEN I HAVE SUNG
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  • EVERYBODY CRIES TOO. [LAUGHING]
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  • BUT FOR A TOTALLY DIFFERENT REASON.
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  • - ME TOO, GOVERNOR, ME TOO.
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  • - IT'S REALLY THE END OF THE SERVICE WHEN THAT HAPPENS.
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  • [LAUGHING]
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  • - I LOVE HOW THEY PUT ALL THE SINGERS ON ONE SIDE.
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  • [LAUGHING]
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  • - YEAH, WE HAVE SINGERS, TEACHERS OVER HERE.
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  • SO LISA, I GOTTA BRING YOU IN HERE AND--
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  • - WELL, I DID A LOT OF BACK UP DANCING FOR LAURIE.
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  • [LAUGHING] SO BACK IN THE DAY
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  • AND SHE JUST THOUGHT SHE NEEDED ME.
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  • YOU KNOW, WHEN I FOUND OUT, WHEN LAURIE CALLED
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  • AND TOLD ME THEY WERE DOING THE SHOW,
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  • I WAS SO EXCITED BY THE OTHER GIRLS
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  • BECAUSE AS KARI AND NAT, CECE AND ALEX HAVE SAID,
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  • WE ARE ALL FRIENDS.
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  • SO THIS ISN'T SCRIPTED.
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  • I THINK WOMEN ASSUME THAT IF WOMEN ARE BEING NICE
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  • TO EACH OTHER THAT IT'S PUT ON.
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  • AND I THINK IN OUR CULTURE WITH SOCIAL MEDIA
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  • BEING SO POLARIZING AND DIVISIVE,
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  • TO SEE WOMEN WHO ACTUALLY CHEER FOR EACH OTHER,
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  • ARE FOR EACH OTHER.
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  • THEY GO, REALLY?
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  • AND THEN WE DIVE PRETTY DEEP.
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  • WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SOME VERY SUBSTANTIVE THINGS HERE
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  • AND WE ALL COME FROM DIFFERENT AGES, STAGES OF LIFE
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  • BUT YOU SEE THIS, THIS AGREEMENT.
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  • IT'S UNITY NOT UNIFORMITY AND I LOVE THAT.
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  • IT HAS BEEN SUCH A GREAT EXPERIENCE.
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  • - WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN UNITY AND UNIFORMITY?
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  • - WELL WE CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE.
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  • THERE'S SOME THINGS WHERE ALEX AND I,
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  • I WOULD GIVE ALEX BOTH OF MY KIDNEYS IF SHE NEEDED THEM.
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  • [LAUGHS] BUT THERE WOULD BE SOME PLACES
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  • WHERE SHE WOULD LOOK AT A PASSAGE OF SCRIPTURE
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  • AND COME FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE THAN I WOULD.
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  • WE WOULD BOTH AGREE, BIG PICTURE ON THE SUFFICIENCY
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  • OF CHRIST BUT SHE'D SEE SOMETHING FROM HER BACKGROUND
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  • IN AUSTRALIA AND HER TEACHING BACKGROUND AND I'D GO,
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  • WELL I SEE IT FROM THIS PERSPECTIVE.
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  • THEN WE'D GO, OH THAT'S SO COOL.
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  • THAT YOU BRING THOSE TWO SIDES TOGETHER
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  • SO THERE IS ABSOLUTE UNITY IN THE WAY WE'RE RUNNING TOWARDS
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  • JESUS HARD TOGETHER, AND TOWARD LIFE
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  • AND LOVIN' ONE ANOTHER WELL.
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  • BUT WE DON'T ALWAYS AGREE ON THE NUANCES.
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  • - YEAH.
  • 00:09:18.040 --> 00:09:19.110
  • - WHEN GUYS WATCH WOMEN TALK IN THEIR HUDDLES,
  • 00:09:19.130 --> 00:09:21.290
  • QUITE FRANKLY, WE'RE ALWAYS WONDERIN',
  • 00:09:22.010 --> 00:09:24.120
  • WHAT ARE THEY SAYING, ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT US?
  • 00:09:24.140 --> 00:09:27.030
  • SO, HERE'S THE QUESTION, YOU TALKIN' ABOUT ME?
  • 00:09:27.050 --> 00:09:30.100
  • [LAUGHS]
  • 00:09:30.120 --> 00:09:31.240
  • WHAT IS IT THAT YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT THAT YOU DON'T THINK
  • 00:09:31.260 --> 00:09:34.090
  • MEN WOULD WANT TO TALK ABOUT?
  • 00:09:34.110 --> 00:09:36.100
  • - WELL WE TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING.
  • 00:09:36.120 --> 00:09:38.020
  • YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT MAKE UP.
  • 00:09:38.040 --> 00:09:40.050
  • WE LAUGH ABOUT THINGS THAT YOU GUYS
  • 00:09:40.070 --> 00:09:42.110
  • MIGHT NOT THINK IS FUNNY, YOU KNOW.
  • 00:09:42.130 --> 00:09:44.170
  • AND I THINK IT'S ALWAYS BEEN LIKE THAT,
  • 00:09:44.190 --> 00:09:45.280
  • WE'RE DIFFERENT THAT WAY.
  • 00:09:46.000 --> 00:09:47.130
  • AND SO, WE, WE'RE GONNA, LET'S GO TO THE BATHROOM TOGETHER.
  • 00:09:47.150 --> 00:09:50.160
  • LET'S--
  • 00:09:50.180 --> 00:09:51.220
  • - TELL ME, WHAT IS THAT ABOUT? [LAUGHING]
  • 00:09:51.240 --> 00:09:53.170
  • DO YOU KNOW HOW AWKWARD IT WOULD BE IF SOME GUY SAID--
  • 00:09:53.190 --> 00:09:55.290
  • - WE'RE NOT GOING IN THE SAME STALL BUT WE'RE GOING
  • 00:09:56.010 --> 00:09:57.240
  • TO THE BATHROOM, WE GOTTA TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING.
  • 00:09:57.260 --> 00:09:59.150
  • - BUT IF SOME GUY EVER SAID, I'M GOING TO THE RESTROOM
  • 00:09:59.170 --> 00:10:00.260
  • WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO AND ANOTHER GUY SAYS, I'D LOVE TO.
  • 00:10:00.280 --> 00:10:03.030
  • -[LAUGHS] THERE MIGHT BE A PROBLEM THERE.
  • 00:10:03.050 --> 00:10:05.090
  • -[MIKE] THAT'D BE A WEIRD DEAL.
  • 00:10:05.110 --> 00:10:07.010
  • SO, WHAT IS THAT ABOUT?
  • 00:10:07.030 --> 00:10:08.280
  • - YES, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST FRIENDSHIP,
  • 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:10.210
  • YOU KNOW, IT'S SISTERHOOD.
  • 00:10:10.230 --> 00:10:12.280
  • IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO SURVIVE.
  • 00:10:13.000 --> 00:10:15.020
  • IT'S A PART OF OUR DNA.
  • 00:10:15.040 --> 00:10:17.260
  • IT'S WHO WE ARE, WE LOVE TO TALK, WE LOVE TO LAUGH.
  • 00:10:17.280 --> 00:10:19.290
  • IF WE DON'T, WE'LL GO CRAZY PROBABLY, YOU KNOW.
  • 00:10:20.010 --> 00:10:22.200
  • AND WE LEARN FROM ONE ANOTHER.
  • 00:10:22.220 --> 00:10:25.010
  • IT'S THE COMPANIONSHIP.
  • 00:10:25.030 --> 00:10:26.170
  • I HAVE THREE, I HAVE TWO YOUNGER SISTERS.
  • 00:10:26.190 --> 00:10:28.090
  • I GREW UP WITH SEVEN BROTHERS.
  • 00:10:28.110 --> 00:10:30.210
  • TOTALLY DIFFERENT HOUSEHOLD.
  • 00:10:30.230 --> 00:10:32.110
  • I WAS THE FIRST GIRL, I HAVE TWO YOUNGER SISTERS
  • 00:10:32.130 --> 00:10:34.150
  • AND SO, YOU KNOW GROWING UP WITH EIGHT MEN WAS ROUGH
  • 00:10:34.170 --> 00:10:39.070
  • AT TIMES, SO I LOVE FRIENDSHIP.
  • 00:10:39.090 --> 00:10:42.210
  • I LOVE MY SISTER FRIENDS.
  • 00:10:42.230 --> 00:10:45.180
  • BECAUSE WE CAN SHARE, WE GO THROUGH THE SAME THINGS.
  • 00:10:45.200 --> 00:10:49.100
  • YOU KNOW, AND WE LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IT.
  • 00:10:49.120 --> 00:10:51.110
  • I DON'T THINK MEN, REALLY,
  • 00:10:51.130 --> 00:10:53.090
  • AND WE LIKE TO TALK ABOUT YOU ALL TOO.
  • 00:10:53.110 --> 00:10:55.030
  • BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE BOOK?
  • 00:10:55.050 --> 00:10:57.140
  • "MEN ARE FROM MARS AND WOMEN ARE FROM VENUS"
  • 00:10:57.160 --> 00:11:01.050
  • - YEP [LAUGHS]
  • 00:11:01.070 --> 00:11:02.150
  • - YOU KNOW IT CONTINUES TO BE TRUE EVERY GENERATION.
  • 00:11:02.170 --> 00:11:04.280
  • BUT NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU IN A BAD WAY.
  • 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:07.210
  • AND THAT'S ANOTHER THING ABOUT THIS SHOW.
  • 00:11:07.230 --> 00:11:09.100
  • I BELIEVE IN SUPPORTING MEN
  • 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:11.250
  • AND SAYING GREAT THINGS ABOUT MEN.
  • 00:11:11.270 --> 00:11:14.190
  • WE RESPECT-- - WE ALL LOVE OUR HUSBANDS.
  • 00:11:14.210 --> 00:11:16.110
  • - YES, WE WERE RAISED TO HONOR MEN.
  • 00:11:16.130 --> 00:11:18.080
  • I WAS RAISED TO HONOR MY BROTHERS.
  • 00:11:18.100 --> 00:11:20.170
  • MY BROTHERS ALWAYS HONORED ME.
  • 00:11:20.190 --> 00:11:22.190
  • SO I HAVE NOTHING BAD TO SAY ABOUT MEN.
  • 00:11:22.210 --> 00:11:24.160
  • I DON'T ALWAYS UNDERSTAND.
  • 00:11:24.180 --> 00:11:26.260
  • I KNOW YOU JUST CELEBRATED 45 YEARS OF MARRIAGE.
  • 00:11:26.280 --> 00:11:29.120
  • - YEAH, YEAH. [CHEERS]
  • 00:11:29.140 --> 00:11:30.170
  • - I'M COMING UP ON 35 YEARS OF MARRIAGE
  • 00:11:30.190 --> 00:11:32.220
  • AND YOU'RE STILL LEARNING ONE ANOTHER.
  • 00:11:32.240 --> 00:11:36.060
  • - YOU'RE STILL LEARNING RIGHT?
  • 00:11:36.080 --> 00:11:37.250
  • - HEAVENS, YES.
  • 00:11:37.270 --> 00:11:39.090
  • WHAT I MOSTLY LEARN IS JUST AGREE.
  • 00:11:39.110 --> 00:11:41.060
  • - AW, VERY GOOD, WISE MAN. - YOU GOT IT.
  • 00:11:41.080 --> 00:11:43.070
  • - YOU'RE RIGHT, I'M WRONG.
  • 00:11:43.090 --> 00:11:44.240
  • BUT CECE, YOU'VE OPENED UP A WONDERFUL DOOR
  • 00:11:44.260 --> 00:11:47.000
  • TO THE CONVERSATION AND THAT IS, THERE IS A DISTINCTION
  • 00:11:47.020 --> 00:11:51.070
  • AND A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND WOMEN.
  • 00:11:51.090 --> 00:11:52.290
  • AND WE'RE LIVING IN A WORLD WHERE SOCIETY IS TRYING TO SAY
  • 00:11:53.010 --> 00:11:55.190
  • THAT EVERYONE IS EXACTLY THE SAME,
  • 00:11:55.210 --> 00:11:58.010
  • THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS GENDER.
  • 00:11:58.030 --> 00:12:00.070
  • THAT GENDER IDENTITY MEANS JUST WHATEVER I FEEL.
  • 00:12:00.090 --> 00:12:03.260
  • AND I DON'T MEAN TO STEP ON ANYBODY'S FEELINGS OUT THERE
  • 00:12:03.280 --> 00:12:06.200
  • IN THE WORLD BUT MY GOODNESS.
  • 00:12:06.220 --> 00:12:08.110
  • WHAT YOU JUST SAID IS AN AFFIRMATION THAT
  • 00:12:08.130 --> 00:12:12.100
  • THERE WAS MALE AND FEMALE.
  • 00:12:12.120 --> 00:12:13.160
  • GOD MADE PEOPLE DIFFERENTLY.
  • 00:12:13.180 --> 00:12:15.240
  • EQUAL IN VALUE AND INTRINSIC WORTH.
  • 00:12:15.260 --> 00:12:18.060
  • HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH THAT IN THIS KIND OF CULTURE
  • 00:12:18.080 --> 00:12:20.190
  • WHERE PEOPLE SAY THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS GENDER DIFFERENCE.
  • 00:12:20.210 --> 00:12:25.020
  • - YOU KNOW, I THINK THE BEST WAY TO DEAL WITH THAT
  • 00:12:25.040 --> 00:12:28.080
  • AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TODAY
  • 00:12:28.100 --> 00:12:31.050
  • IS TO BE WHO GOD CREATED YOU TO BE.
  • 00:12:31.070 --> 00:12:33.070
  • - THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:12:33.090 --> 00:12:34.220
  • - YOU KNOW I DON'T HAVE TO POINT OUT WHAT PEOPLE ARE DOING
  • 00:12:34.240 --> 00:12:37.040
  • WRONG SO THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE WHAT I'M DOING IS RIGHT.
  • 00:12:37.060 --> 00:12:39.270
  • I JUST HAVE TO LIVE A LIFE THAT'S PLEASING TO HIM.
  • 00:12:39.290 --> 00:12:42.150
  • - RIGHT. - YOU KNOW?
  • 00:12:42.170 --> 00:12:43.270
  • BECAUSE WHEN YOU DO THAT, THEN YOU'RE GONNA WALK IN LOVE
  • 00:12:43.290 --> 00:12:46.050
  • AND YOU'RE GONNA ALWAYS BE A BLESSING TO PEOPLE.
  • 00:12:46.070 --> 00:12:48.010
  • YOU'RE GONNA LEARN TO LOVE PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE.
  • 00:12:48.030 --> 00:12:50.020
  • A LOT OF PEOPLE, THEY DO WHAT THEY DO
  • 00:12:50.040 --> 00:12:52.270
  • BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW ANY BETTER.
  • 00:12:52.290 --> 00:12:54.220
  • SOME DO, SOME DON'T BUT THAT'S FOR GOD TO JUDGE.
  • 00:12:54.240 --> 00:12:58.190
  • AND SO, YOU JUST LOVE PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE
  • 00:12:58.210 --> 00:13:00.210
  • AND YOU LIVE A LIFE THAT'S COMMITTED.
  • 00:13:00.230 --> 00:13:02.270
  • THAT'S GONNA SHINE SO BRIGHT THAT IT'LL LIGHT UP EVERY
  • 00:13:02.290 --> 00:13:06.020
  • DARK PLACE.
  • 00:13:06.040 --> 00:13:07.110
  • SO THAT PEOPLE WILL REALLY EXPERIENCE WHO JESUS IS.
  • 00:13:07.130 --> 00:13:11.160
  • - AND I THINK SOME PEOPLE BUY INTO THE WHOLE
  • 00:13:11.180 --> 00:13:14.050
  • ANDROGYNOUS PHILOSOPHY BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN MARGINALIZED,
  • 00:13:14.070 --> 00:13:20.140
  • WHATEVER GENDER THEY ARE.
  • 00:13:20.160 --> 00:13:22.160
  • SO, I THINK STEREOTYPICALLY SOUTHERN WOMEN HAVE BEEN TAUGHT
  • 00:13:22.180 --> 00:13:26.180
  • TO BE SEEN AND NOT HEARD, KINDA STAY IN THE BACK ROOM
  • 00:13:26.200 --> 00:13:30.170
  • OR SO THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN PEDDLED.
  • 00:13:30.190 --> 00:13:32.290
  • AND I'M LIKE, WELL FIRST OF ALL MOST OF US DIDN'T EXPERIENCE
  • 00:13:33.010 --> 00:13:36.250
  • THAT QUITE TO THAT DEGREE BUT WHEN WE ACTUALLY ARE
  • 00:13:36.270 --> 00:13:39.220
  • ALL THAT GOD HAS GIFTED US TO BE.
  • 00:13:39.240 --> 00:13:41.260
  • SO THAT'S STRONG WITHOUT BEING STRIDENT.
  • 00:13:41.280 --> 00:13:44.090
  • THAT IS BRIGHT WITHOUT BEING OBNOXIOUS
  • 00:13:44.110 --> 00:13:48.060
  • AND HAVING TO TAKE UP ALL THE AIR IN THE ROOM.
  • 00:13:48.080 --> 00:13:50.010
  • THAT'S TO BRING ALL THAT GOD HAS GIFTED US WITH TO THE TABLE
  • 00:13:50.030 --> 00:13:54.020
  • THEN PEOPLE GO, OH SHE'S NOT A DUMB LITTLE GIRL
  • 00:13:54.040 --> 00:13:58.130
  • WHO FEELS OPPRESSED, WHO IS JUST OPPRESSED BY ALL THESE
  • 00:13:58.150 --> 00:14:03.080
  • MISOGYNIST MALES.
  • 00:14:03.100 --> 00:14:05.000
  • NO, THAT'S NOT MY LIFE AT ALL AND I LOVE JESUS
  • 00:14:05.020 --> 00:14:07.190
  • AND I LOVE BEING A WOMAN.
  • 00:14:07.210 --> 00:14:09.090
  • THEN THEY GO, OH MAYBE I CAN'T PUT HER IN A CORNER
  • 00:14:09.110 --> 00:14:13.290
  • OR STEREOTYPE THAT QUITE THE WAY I THOUGHT IT WAS.
  • 00:14:14.010 --> 00:14:16.250
  • SO, I TOTALLY DIDN'T SAY IT AS WELL AS YOU DID
  • 00:14:16.270 --> 00:14:19.200
  • BUT ABSOLUTELY AFFIRM THAT WE JUST ARE WHO GOD'S
  • 00:14:19.220 --> 00:14:23.080
  • CALLED US TO BE AND I ALSO THINK THE PEOPLE WHO,
  • 00:14:23.100 --> 00:14:26.290
  • WHAT I HEAR, A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WANT ANDROGYNY,
  • 00:14:27.010 --> 00:14:30.270
  • THEY VILIFY ONE OR OTHER OF THE GENDERS.
  • 00:14:30.290 --> 00:14:34.140
  • I ACTUALLY LOVE MEN.
  • 00:14:34.160 --> 00:14:37.200
  • I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE ONE OF MY OWN ONE DAY
  • 00:14:37.220 --> 00:14:40.140
  • AND I LOVE DISTINCT DIFFERENCES.
  • 00:14:40.160 --> 00:14:42.090
  • - WHAT'S THAT 800 NUMBER AGAIN?
  • 00:14:42.110 --> 00:14:43.240
  • [LAUGHING]
  • 00:14:43.260 --> 00:14:45.060
  • - I'LL GIVE YOU THAT, THE OTHER LEAST HARPER WAS SANTA.
  • 00:14:45.080 --> 00:14:48.220
  • BUT THE DISTINCTIONS BETWEEN US ARE BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:51.130
  • IT'S THE SAME WAY WITH ME, I'LL,
  • 00:14:51.150 --> 00:14:54.000
  • AND CECE YOU CAN SPEAK TO THIS TOO
  • 00:14:54.020 --> 00:14:56.120
  • WITH WHAT YOU'VE HEARD IN THE PAST.
  • 00:14:56.140 --> 00:14:58.020
  • BUT, PEOPLE WILL SAY TO ME, MY LITTLE GIRL'S FROM HAITI,
  • 00:14:58.040 --> 00:15:00.230
  • SO SHE'S THE MOST BEAUTIFUL COLOR BROWN YOU'VE EVER SEEN
  • 00:15:00.250 --> 00:15:04.170
  • IN YOUR WHOLE LIFE, BUT PEOPLE WILL SAY,
  • 00:15:04.190 --> 00:15:06.130
  • OH I DON'T SEE COLOR AND I WANNA GO,
  • 00:15:06.150 --> 00:15:08.240
  • BOY YOU ARE MISSING OUT ON SO MUCH BECAUSE THAT RIGHT THERE
  • 00:15:08.260 --> 00:15:12.090
  • IS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL COLOR I THINK GOD HAS CREATED.
  • 00:15:12.110 --> 00:15:14.090
  • WHEN PEOPLE SAY, I DON'T SEE GENDER, I'M LIKE,
  • 00:15:14.110 --> 00:15:16.160
  • OH MY GOODNESS, YOU'RE MISSING SO MUCH BEAUTY.
  • 00:15:16.180 --> 00:15:19.050
  • BECAUSE THE WAY GOD DESIGNED IT IS SO MUCH BETTER
  • 00:15:19.070 --> 00:15:21.170
  • THAN THE WAY WE TRY TO MINIMIZE IT.
  • 00:15:21.190 --> 00:15:25.220
  • - BETTER TOGETHER IS LIKE NOTHING ELSE ON TELEVISION.
  • 00:15:25.240 --> 00:15:29.120
  • IN A CULTURE OF PERSONAL CHOICE AND THE SELF ABSORBED,
  • 00:15:29.140 --> 00:15:33.010
  • THESE WOMEN ARE RE-INTRODUCING HONESTY, TRANSPARENCY
  • 00:15:33.030 --> 00:15:37.120
  • AND TRUTH, AND BOY DO WE NEED IT NOW.
  • 00:15:37.140 --> 00:15:40.230
  • WELL STILL AHEAD, THE LADIES OF BETTER TOGETHER
  • 00:15:40.250 --> 00:15:42.260
  • TAKE ON THE GOOD, BAD AND THE UGLY OF SOCIAL MEDIA.
  • 00:15:42.280 --> 00:15:47.090
  • AND TALK ABOUT HOW TO RAISE CHILDREN TO LOVE OTHERS
  • 00:15:47.110 --> 00:15:49.290
  • IN A CULTURE OF SELFISHNESS.
  • 00:15:50.010 --> 00:15:52.130
  • WE'RE GONNA BE RIGHT BACK WITH MORE CONVERSATIONS.
  • 00:15:52.150 --> 00:15:56.160
  • - BETTER TOGETHER DEFINITELY SHOWS WOMEN THAT YOU DON'T
  • 00:15:56.180 --> 00:15:59.150
  • HAVE TO BE ANY KIND OF SPECIFIC WOMAN TO BE USED BY GOD.
  • 00:15:59.170 --> 00:16:03.180
  • BUT YOU CAN BE THE WOMAN THAT GOD HAS CALLED YOU TO BE.
  • 00:16:03.200 --> 00:16:05.240
  • - I THINK BETTER TOGETHER IS MADE FOR WOMEN THAT WANT MORE.
  • 00:16:05.260 --> 00:16:08.220
  • MORE OUT OF THEMSELVES, MORE OUT OF THEIR RELATIONSHIP
  • 00:16:08.240 --> 00:16:11.100
  • WITH JESUS.
  • 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:12.140
  • - IT SHOWS SUCH A DIFFERENT RANGE OF WOMEN,
  • 00:16:12.160 --> 00:16:15.100
  • BOTH AGE AND RACE AND CULTURE AND TRADITION.
  • 00:16:15.120 --> 00:16:19.090
  • AND I THINK THAT IN ITSELF, THE MEDIUM IS THE MESSAGE.
  • 00:16:19.110 --> 00:16:21.260
  • EVERY WOMAN WILL FIND HERSELF IN ONE OF THE WOMEN.
  • 00:16:21.280 --> 00:16:24.270
  • AND IT'S LIKE, WOW, IF GOD CAN USE HER, GOD CAN USE ME.
  • 00:16:24.290 --> 00:16:27.200
  • - THAT'S SO FREEING WHEN YOU ACTUALLY REALIZE
  • 00:16:27.220 --> 00:16:32.220
  • THAT YOU CAN BE WHO GOD CALLED YOU TO BE.
  • 00:16:32.240 --> 00:16:36.230
  • - I THINK IF YOU OPEN YOUR HEART AND TRULY KNOW
  • 00:16:36.250 --> 00:16:39.110
  • THAT THE SEGMENTS ON THIS SHOW, BETTER TOGETHER
  • 00:16:39.130 --> 00:16:42.150
  • ARE JUST TO HELP YOU, TO INSPIRE YOU AND ENCOURAGE YOU.
  • 00:16:42.170 --> 00:16:45.260
  • I BELIEVE THAT GOD WILL SPEAK TO YOU PERSONALLY
  • 00:16:45.280 --> 00:16:48.040
  • AND I BELIEVE THAT HE'S NO RESPECTER OF PERSONS
  • 00:16:48.060 --> 00:16:50.080
  • AND WHAT HE'S DONE FOR ONE, HE'LL DO FOR YOU.
  • 00:16:50.100 --> 00:16:57.010
  • [UPBEAT MUSIC]
  • 00:16:57.030 --> 00:16:58.170
  • - WELCOME BACK TO CONVERSATIONS.
  • 00:16:58.190 --> 00:17:00.230
  • SOCIETY WAS PROMISED THAT THE INTERNET WOULD CREATE
  • 00:17:00.250 --> 00:17:03.240
  • A NEW WORLD OF FRESH IDEAS AND INTER-PERSONAL COMMUNICATION.
  • 00:17:03.260 --> 00:17:08.010
  • BUT WHAT WE'VE SEEN IT ACTUALLY DO IS NARROW THE MINDS
  • 00:17:08.030 --> 00:17:11.190
  • OF PEOPLE AND WITHER THE ABILITY OF INDIVIDUALS
  • 00:17:11.210 --> 00:17:14.230
  • TO HANDLE OPPOSING VIEWS IN OUR WORLD.
  • 00:17:14.250 --> 00:17:17.180
  • WELL, I HAD A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT THE PITFALLS
  • 00:17:17.200 --> 00:17:20.070
  • OF SOCIAL MEDIA WITH THE HOSTS OF BETTER TOGETHER.
  • 00:17:20.090 --> 00:17:23.240
  • AND I ASKED 'EM.
  • 00:17:23.260 --> 00:17:24.230
  • HOW DO THEY HANDLE THIS TOOL
  • 00:17:24.250 --> 00:17:26.020
  • WITH SO MUCH POTENTIAL FOR GOOD?
  • 00:17:26.040 --> 00:17:29.250
  • - I'M GONNA JUST THROW THIS OUT HERE IN THE MIDDLE
  • 00:17:29.270 --> 00:17:31.180
  • AND YOU GUYS JUMP IN AND HAVE AT IT.
  • 00:17:31.200 --> 00:17:34.060
  • HOW DANGEROUS IS SOCIAL MEDIA IN DIVIDING PEOPLE
  • 00:17:34.080 --> 00:17:40.130
  • AND CREATING THIS SINCE OF HOSTILITY,
  • 00:17:40.150 --> 00:17:43.160
  • WHERE PEOPLE CAN ANONYMOUSLY JUST ATTACK OTHER PEOPLE.
  • 00:17:43.180 --> 00:17:47.160
  • - IT'S VERY DANGEROUS - YES.
  • 00:17:47.180 --> 00:17:50.060
  • - I ACTUALLY DELETE MY INSTAGRAM ON MY PHONE,
  • 00:17:50.080 --> 00:17:54.260
  • ALMOST EVERYDAY.
  • 00:17:54.280 --> 00:17:57.150
  • WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS JUST TAKING THE APP OFF
  • 00:17:57.170 --> 00:17:59.170
  • WHERE I CAN'T SO EASILY JUST RUN AND LOOK.
  • 00:17:59.190 --> 00:18:02.100
  • BECAUSE I THINK SO QUICKLY, SO MUCH TIME GETS SPENT
  • 00:18:02.120 --> 00:18:06.120
  • JUST GOING THROUGH BUT IT EFFECTS MY EMOTIONS,
  • 00:18:06.140 --> 00:18:09.140
  • IT EFFECTS MY, I DON'T KNOW.
  • 00:18:09.160 --> 00:18:12.050
  • IT'S JUST LATELY BEEN REALLY, IT'S ALMOST LIKE THE ENEMY'S
  • 00:18:12.070 --> 00:18:15.290
  • WANTING TO USE IT AS THIS THING OF COMPARISON.
  • 00:18:16.010 --> 00:18:18.250
  • AND THAT'S SO RIDICULOUS BECAUSE I ALWAYS WANT TO CHAMPION
  • 00:18:18.270 --> 00:18:22.220
  • AND BE SOMEONE WHO IS CHEERING OTHERS ON.
  • 00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:27.000
  • MY SEASON LOOKS DIFFERENT FROM EVERYONE ELSE'S RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:18:27.020 --> 00:18:29.180
  • I'M A MOM OF A NEWBORN AND A THREE YEAR OLD
  • 00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:32.060
  • AND I DON'T HAVE TIME TO USE REALLY BEAUTIFUL FILTERS
  • 00:18:32.080 --> 00:18:35.170
  • ON EVERY PICTURE AND-- [LAUGHS]
  • 00:18:35.190 --> 00:18:37.160
  • BUT I CAN START TO LOOK AT THAT,
  • 00:18:37.180 --> 00:18:40.070
  • AND THAT'S JUST ONE SMALL THING,
  • 00:18:40.090 --> 00:18:41.270
  • THAT'S NOT TALKING ABOUT THE MEAN PEOPLE
  • 00:18:41.290 --> 00:18:44.080
  • THAT SAY MEAN THINGS, LIKE THAT STUFF IS SO HARD.
  • 00:18:44.100 --> 00:18:47.100
  • - THAT CAN BE REALLY HARD - YEAH.
  • 00:18:47.120 --> 00:18:48.210
  • - I THINK IT CAN BE SO, LIKE, BOTH.
  • 00:18:48.230 --> 00:18:50.250
  • IT CAN BE SUPER DANGEROUS AND SUPER EFFECTIVE.
  • 00:18:50.270 --> 00:18:54.110
  • YOU KNOW, I THINK IT BRINGS OUT THE WORST IN SOME PEOPLE,
  • 00:18:54.130 --> 00:18:58.110
  • THAT ARE BULLIES.
  • 00:18:58.130 --> 00:18:59.170
  • AND THEY JUST HIDE BEHIND THEIR KEYBOARD
  • 00:18:59.190 --> 00:19:01.160
  • AND JUST TYPE THE MOST HATEFUL THINGS.
  • 00:19:01.180 --> 00:19:03.010
  • BUT I FEEL JUST AS POWERFUL WHEN I HIT THE BLOCK BUTTON.
  • 00:19:03.030 --> 00:19:06.050
  • [LAUGHS] WHERE I'M LIKE, I CAN SILENCE YOU.
  • 00:19:06.070 --> 00:19:08.290
  • I DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE TO GIVE YOU PERMISSION TO SPEAK
  • 00:19:09.010 --> 00:19:11.180
  • ON MY PAGE AND I'M NOT DOING IT OUT OF HATE,
  • 00:19:11.200 --> 00:19:13.120
  • I'M JUST DOING IT 'CAUSE THAT JUST DOESN'T BELONG HERE.
  • 00:19:13.140 --> 00:19:16.070
  • AND YOU KNOW, I THINK ALSO YOU HAVE TO BE SO CAREFUL
  • 00:19:16.090 --> 00:19:18.290
  • AT WHO YOU FOLLOW.
  • 00:19:19.010 --> 00:19:20.130
  • AND I SAY THIS TO PEOPLE ALL THE TIME.
  • 00:19:20.150 --> 00:19:22.080
  • IF YOU'RE FOLLOWING AN ACCOUNT THAT MAKES YOU FEEL
  • 00:19:22.100 --> 00:19:25.100
  • INSECURE OR LESS THAN
  • 00:19:25.120 --> 00:19:27.100
  • OR YOU FIND THAT IT STARTS TO BRING OUT THE WORST IN YOU,
  • 00:19:27.120 --> 00:19:30.040
  • THEN IT'S JUST REALLY EASY, JUST UNFOLLOW IT.
  • 00:19:30.060 --> 00:19:32.100
  • YOU KNOW JUST UNFOLLOW IT, DO WHAT'S BEST FOR YOU.
  • 00:19:32.120 --> 00:19:35.090
  • BUT AT THE SAME TIME,
  • 00:19:35.110 --> 00:19:36.150
  • I'VE SEEN SUCH BEAUTIFUL THINGS COME FROM IT.
  • 00:19:36.170 --> 00:19:39.050
  • A COUPLE YEARS AGO I HAD CANCER AND THE AMOUNT,
  • 00:19:39.070 --> 00:19:42.270
  • OUTPOURING OF SUPPORT AROUND THE WORLD OF PEOPLE
  • 00:19:42.290 --> 00:19:45.210
  • WHO WERE PRAYING AND FASTING AND PRAYING
  • 00:19:45.230 --> 00:19:48.130
  • AND COMMITTING TO PRAY FOR ME.
  • 00:19:48.150 --> 00:19:49.270
  • AND THE MESSAGES I WOULD GET,
  • 00:19:49.290 --> 00:19:51.270
  • I MEAN, THAT CARRIED ME THROUGH THAT.
  • 00:19:51.290 --> 00:19:53.190
  • SO I THINK IT HAS A PLACE AND IT CAN BE USED
  • 00:19:53.210 --> 00:19:57.100
  • FOR BEAUTIFUL GOOD AND THEN WE HAVE ACTUALLY,
  • 00:19:57.120 --> 00:20:00.240
  • THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS YOU CAN'T CONTROL IN LIFE.
  • 00:20:00.260 --> 00:20:03.010
  • BUT THERE ARE SOME THINGS YOU CAN CONTROL
  • 00:20:03.030 --> 00:20:05.160
  • AND THAT'S ONE OF THEM.
  • 00:20:05.180 --> 00:20:06.230
  • WHERE YOU DELETE IT OR YOU DELETE SOMETHING
  • 00:20:06.250 --> 00:20:08.050
  • THAT YOU DON'T NEED TO LOOK AT.
  • 00:20:08.070 --> 00:20:09.140
  • - I THINK SOCIAL MEDIA IS LIKE
  • 00:20:09.160 --> 00:20:10.280
  • THE HOT SIGN AT KRISPY KREME. [LAUGHING]
  • 00:20:11.000 --> 00:20:13.110
  • IT'S OKAY EVERY NOW AND THEN - I LOVE THAT.
  • 00:20:13.130 --> 00:20:16.030
  • - IT'S A TREAT EVERY NOW AND THEN
  • 00:20:16.050 --> 00:20:17.210
  • BUT I'M LEARNING THAT IT'S AN INANIMATE OBJECT,
  • 00:20:17.230 --> 00:20:20.280
  • SO IT CAN BE USED TO ENCOURAGE OR TO DISPARAGE.
  • 00:20:21.000 --> 00:20:23.030
  • THERE IS A PRAYER CHAIN ELEMENT TO IT IN OUR CULTURE.
  • 00:20:23.050 --> 00:20:26.070
  • IT'S REALLY COOL, SAME TOO WITH MISSY,
  • 00:20:26.090 --> 00:20:27.270
  • I ADOPTED MY LITTLE GIRL FROM HAITI.
  • 00:20:27.290 --> 00:20:29.240
  • SHE WAS VERY, VERY SICK INITIALLY
  • 00:20:29.260 --> 00:20:31.170
  • AND I FEEL LIKE PART OF HER HEALTH NOW
  • 00:20:31.190 --> 00:20:34.280
  • IS BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE PRAYED FOR HER HEALTH.
  • 00:20:35.000 --> 00:20:37.090
  • SO I LOVE THAT KIND OF DIGITAL PRAYER CHAIN ELEMENT
  • 00:20:37.110 --> 00:20:40.210
  • BUT I ALSO THINK NOT ONLY CAN IT BE DISPARAGING,
  • 00:20:40.230 --> 00:20:43.110
  • IT IS A TIME WASTE. - YES.
  • 00:20:43.130 --> 00:20:45.220
  • - IT IS A BLACK HOLE.
  • 00:20:45.240 --> 00:20:47.260
  • SO I'M 55 YEARS OLD AND SO SINCE I'VE LOST MY METABOLISM,
  • 00:20:47.280 --> 00:20:52.060
  • I'VE GAINED A TEENY BIT OF WISDOM [LAUGHS].
  • 00:20:52.080 --> 00:20:54.110
  • AND I THINK YOU JUST MANAGE HOW MUCH TIME YOU ALLOT TO IT.
  • 00:20:54.130 --> 00:20:59.000
  • SO YOU GO, OKAY SO IF I'M SITTING IN AN AIRPORT
  • 00:20:59.020 --> 00:21:01.140
  • WAITING FOR A FLIGHT.
  • 00:21:01.160 --> 00:21:02.240
  • I COULD READ A BOOK IN THIS 30 MINUTES
  • 00:21:02.260 --> 00:21:05.010
  • OR I COULD GLANCE AT INSTAGRAM.
  • 00:21:05.030 --> 00:21:06.280
  • BUT IF MY KID IS TALKING TO ME ABOUT SOMETHING THAT MATTERS,
  • 00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:10.150
  • I'M GONNA PUT MY PHONE DOWN.
  • 00:21:10.170 --> 00:21:11.270
  • SO AGAIN, ONCE EVERY TWO WEEKS I CAN RUN BY KRISPY KREME
  • 00:21:11.290 --> 00:21:15.190
  • AND STAY IN MY STRETCHY PANTS.
  • 00:21:15.210 --> 00:21:17.060
  • IF I GO EVERY DAY, I'M GONNA BE SICK.
  • 00:21:17.080 --> 00:21:19.160
  • - WELL AND IT'S LIKE THIS PROGRAM.
  • 00:21:19.180 --> 00:21:21.050
  • WE HAVE BUILT IT TO WHERE WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME TEAM.
  • 00:21:21.070 --> 00:21:26.040
  • - YEAH. - RIGHT.
  • 00:21:26.060 --> 00:21:27.080
  • - AND WE'RE ALL GOING TOWARDS ONE GOAL.
  • 00:21:27.100 --> 00:21:28.270
  • AND WE HAVE ONE FOUNDATION AND THAT'S THE WORD OF GOD.
  • 00:21:28.290 --> 00:21:32.050
  • AND SO, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS HELP EVERYBODY WATCHING
  • 00:21:32.070 --> 00:21:38.090
  • GET THROUGH THIS KIND OF STUFF.
  • 00:21:38.110 --> 00:21:40.010
  • DON'T SAY UGLY STUFF ON INSTAGRAM.
  • 00:21:40.030 --> 00:21:42.090
  • YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T HAVE SOMETHING NICE TO SAY,
  • 00:21:42.110 --> 00:21:43.240
  • DON'T SAY IT.
  • 00:21:43.260 --> 00:21:45.030
  • AND SO, WE'RE TRYING TO USE OUR VOICE TO HELP
  • 00:21:45.050 --> 00:21:49.020
  • BUT WE GLEAN FROM EACH OTHER. - YEAH, WE SURE DO.
  • 00:21:49.040 --> 00:21:51.210
  • - AND HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT
  • 00:21:51.230 --> 00:21:53.180
  • GOD WANTS TO DO GREAT THINGS FOR US
  • 00:21:53.200 --> 00:21:55.280
  • AND GOD'S PLANS ARE GOOD FOR US AND WE ALL KNOW THAT
  • 00:21:56.000 --> 00:21:58.170
  • BUT MAN, I'M GOING THROUGH SOMETHING TODAY,
  • 00:21:58.190 --> 00:22:00.100
  • HOW DID YOU DO IT, LISA, HELP ME.
  • 00:22:00.120 --> 00:22:02.040
  • HELP ME GET THERE. - YEAH, YEAH.
  • 00:22:02.060 --> 00:22:03.270
  • - AND SO, FROM EARLY AGES TO GREAT, GREAT, GREAT GRANDMAS.
  • 00:22:03.290 --> 00:22:08.170
  • - LAURIE WON'T SAY THIS BUT I SAY FROM BELLY RINGS
  • 00:22:08.190 --> 00:22:10.260
  • TO BLADDER CONTROL PROBLEMS.
  • 00:22:10.280 --> 00:22:12.080
  • [LAUGHS]
  • 00:22:12.100 --> 00:22:13.130
  • SO IT'S A WIDE AUDIENCE THAT WE COVER.
  • 00:22:13.150 --> 00:22:16.120
  • - YEAH THIS IS A PRETTY HONEST SHOW.
  • 00:22:16.140 --> 00:22:18.190
  • YEAH, DEFINITELY, PRETTY HONEST.
  • 00:22:18.210 --> 00:22:21.090
  • HOW CAN YOU USE IT IN A POSITIVE GOOD WAY?
  • 00:22:21.110 --> 00:22:26.230
  • YOU'VE MENTIONED ABOUT PRAYER SUPPORT
  • 00:22:26.250 --> 00:22:29.030
  • BUT JUST FOR, ALL OF YOU ARE IN VERY PUBLIC ARENAS
  • 00:22:29.050 --> 00:22:34.020
  • SO HOW DO YOU USE IT TO GUIDE PEOPLE IN A GOOD POSITIVE WAY?
  • 00:22:34.040 --> 00:22:39.110
  • - YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE I MADE A CHOICE WITH SOCIAL MEDIA
  • 00:22:39.130 --> 00:22:44.050
  • A COUPLE YEARS AGO TO BE VERY HONEST AND TRANSPARENT.
  • 00:22:44.070 --> 00:22:47.120
  • AND EVERYBODY KINDA MAKES DIFFERENT CHOICES
  • 00:22:47.140 --> 00:22:50.290
  • LIKE NOBODY HAS ACCESS TO MY SOCIAL MEDIA EXCEPT FOR ME.
  • 00:22:51.010 --> 00:22:54.240
  • I DON'T ALLOW ANYONE FROM MY TEAM OR MY RECORD LABEL
  • 00:22:54.260 --> 00:22:58.010
  • TO POST ON IT SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS IT'S REALLY ME
  • 00:22:58.030 --> 00:23:00.200
  • THAT'S POSTING.
  • 00:23:00.220 --> 00:23:01.230
  • AND SOME PEOPLE USE IT AS,
  • 00:23:01.250 --> 00:23:02.280
  • IT'S A WONDERFUL VEHICLE FOR PROMOTION
  • 00:23:03.000 --> 00:23:05.010
  • BUT I'VE NEVER USED IT FOR THAT.
  • 00:23:05.030 --> 00:23:06.190
  • WHEN I HAVE A PANIC ATTACK ON AN AIRPLANE BECAUSE I'M AFRAID
  • 00:23:06.210 --> 00:23:09.080
  • AND MY CHILD PRAYS FOR ME.
  • 00:23:09.100 --> 00:23:11.070
  • I TYPE IT OUT AND I TALK ABOUT IT
  • 00:23:11.090 --> 00:23:13.010
  • AND IT GIVES PEOPLE A PLACE TO THEN SHARE, OH MY WORD.
  • 00:23:13.030 --> 00:23:17.070
  • THEY IDENTIFY WITH YOU THEN,
  • 00:23:17.090 --> 00:23:18.210
  • THEN YOU'RE LESS OF A PERSON THAT'S UNDER A SPOTLIGHT
  • 00:23:18.230 --> 00:23:21.240
  • AND HOLDING A MICROPHONE AND YOU BECOME THEIR FRIEND
  • 00:23:21.260 --> 00:23:24.190
  • AND IT CREATES KIND OF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.
  • 00:23:24.210 --> 00:23:27.110
  • A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE CONVERSATION AND TO FEEL LIKE,
  • 00:23:27.130 --> 00:23:30.260
  • AH THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT UNDERSTAND ME
  • 00:23:30.280 --> 00:23:32.270
  • AND THOUGH YOU'RE HELPING ME RUN TOWARDS CHRIST,
  • 00:23:32.290 --> 00:23:35.240
  • YOU'RE NOT MAKING ME FEEL LESS THAN
  • 00:23:35.260 --> 00:23:37.110
  • BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT IT ALL TOGETHER.
  • 00:23:37.130 --> 00:23:39.070
  • AND BECAUSE I SO DON'T HAVE IT ALL TOGETHER [LAUGHS].
  • 00:23:39.090 --> 00:23:42.250
  • AND SO BEING ABLE TO USE IT IN THAT WAY
  • 00:23:42.270 --> 00:23:45.060
  • WHERE YOU CAN JUST BE SO HONEST AND TRANSPARENT,
  • 00:23:45.080 --> 00:23:47.240
  • I THINK REALLY CREATES AN OPPORTUNITY
  • 00:23:47.260 --> 00:23:50.150
  • FOR BEAUTIFUL CONVERSATION.
  • 00:23:50.170 --> 00:23:53.030
  • - YEAH. - THAT'S GOOD NAT.
  • 00:23:53.050 --> 00:23:54.060
  • - I THINK WE GOTTA BE CAREFUL TOO,
  • 00:23:54.080 --> 00:23:56.010
  • 'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S GREAT
  • 00:23:56.030 --> 00:23:57.090
  • BUT THEN THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT USE IT,
  • 00:23:57.110 --> 00:23:58.210
  • WITH THEY PUT EVERYTHING OF THEIR LIVES OUT
  • 00:23:58.230 --> 00:24:01.040
  • AND IT'S LIKE, THAT'S TOO MUCH INFORMATION.
  • 00:24:01.060 --> 00:24:04.030
  • WE DON'T NEED TO SEE, THE CAVITY IN YOUR MOUTH
  • 00:24:04.050 --> 00:24:07.280
  • AT THE DENTIST. [LAUGHING]
  • 00:24:08.000 --> 00:24:09.050
  • WE DON'T, YOU KNOW THERE ARE JUST CERTAIN THINGS--
  • 00:24:09.070 --> 00:24:11.120
  • - YOU DIDN'T LIKE MY BATHING SUIT SHOT THE OTHER DAY?
  • 00:24:11.140 --> 00:24:14.160
  • - I WOULD HAVE LOVED IT.
  • 00:24:14.180 --> 00:24:16.140
  • - NOT GONNA HAPPEN BABY.
  • 00:24:16.160 --> 00:24:18.120
  • - BUT YEAH EXACTLY, IT'S STUFF LIKE THAT.
  • 00:24:18.140 --> 00:24:20.050
  • MY FAMILY LAUGH AT ME BECAUSE MY INSTAGRAM'S
  • 00:24:20.070 --> 00:24:22.240
  • KNOWN AS THE MUM INSTAGRAM BECAUSE I JUST CAPTURE A PHOTO,
  • 00:24:22.260 --> 00:24:26.040
  • I DON'T PUT ANY FILTERS ON IT,
  • 00:24:26.060 --> 00:24:27.290
  • I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO WORK THAT THING.
  • 00:24:28.010 --> 00:24:30.030
  • I JUST CAPTURE MOMENTS AND I DO IT A LOT FOR THE FAMILY
  • 00:24:30.050 --> 00:24:32.120
  • IN AUSTRALIA SO THAT THEY CAN GET TO SEE PLAY BY PLAY
  • 00:24:32.140 --> 00:24:36.130
  • WHAT HAPPENS AND THEN IF I FEEL TO PUT SOMETHING, I USE IT.
  • 00:24:36.150 --> 00:24:40.010
  • BUT I DON'T REALLY USE IT A LOT,
  • 00:24:40.030 --> 00:24:41.200
  • IT'S REALLY A PERSONAL CATALOG OF MY PHOTOS.
  • 00:24:41.220 --> 00:24:44.210
  • - YEAH, WE HAD, I KNOW GOVERNOR YOU KNOW SHEILA WALSH,
  • 00:24:44.230 --> 00:24:47.270
  • WHO'S A DEAR FRIEND.
  • 00:24:47.290 --> 00:24:49.120
  • AND WHEN I WAS IN THE ADOPTION PROCESS,
  • 00:24:49.140 --> 00:24:51.210
  • SHEILA SET UP MY INSTAGRAM BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW HOW
  • 00:24:51.230 --> 00:24:55.240
  • TO DO IT AND I REALLY DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT
  • 00:24:55.260 --> 00:24:57.020
  • BUT SHE SAID IT'S KIND OF LIKE A BIG PICTURE TEXT.
  • 00:24:57.040 --> 00:25:00.190
  • SHE SAID YOU'LL LIKE IT EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T REALLY LOVE
  • 00:25:00.210 --> 00:25:03.070
  • SOCIAL MEDIA.
  • 00:25:03.090 --> 00:25:04.200
  • BECAUSE SHE SAID YOU WON'T HAVE TIME TO SEND EVERYTHING
  • 00:25:04.220 --> 00:25:07.110
  • WHEN THE ADOPTION'S GOING THROUGH,
  • 00:25:07.130 --> 00:25:09.030
  • TO THE PEOPLE THAT YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW.
  • 00:25:09.050 --> 00:25:11.100
  • AND SO I WAS THINKING ABOUT WHEN SHE SET IT UP FOR ME
  • 00:25:11.120 --> 00:25:15.070
  • AND THEN MY NAMES GOT MIXED UP
  • 00:25:15.090 --> 00:25:18.200
  • AND EVIDENTLY THERE'S A GIRL WITH A SIMILAR NAME
  • 00:25:18.220 --> 00:25:21.020
  • WHO TAKES NAKED PICTURES WITH SANTA.
  • 00:25:21.040 --> 00:25:23.110
  • [LAUGHS] THAT'S A WHOLE 'NOTHER STORY.
  • 00:25:23.130 --> 00:25:24.250
  • SO ANYWAY THAT WAS EXCITING BUT I MADE A REAL CONSCIOUS
  • 00:25:24.270 --> 00:25:31.060
  • DECISION TO MAKE SURE PRETTY MUCH, I'M VERY HONEST.
  • 00:25:31.080 --> 00:25:35.270
  • BUT TO NOT PUT ANYTHING POLITICAL OR
  • 00:25:35.290 --> 00:25:40.020
  • I DON'T THINK IT'S A GREAT FORMAT FOR THAT.
  • 00:25:40.040 --> 00:25:42.110
  • I THINK FACE TO FACE IS BETTER FOR THAT.
  • 00:25:42.130 --> 00:25:44.150
  • AND YOU KNOW, THE PASTOR OF HEBREW SAYS THAT
  • 00:25:44.170 --> 00:25:47.130
  • WE'RE TO ENCOURAGE ONE ANOTHER DAILY.
  • 00:25:47.150 --> 00:25:49.240
  • SHE CAN BE VERY HONEST ABOUT, I WAS AFRAID
  • 00:25:49.260 --> 00:25:52.290
  • AND THIS IS HOW GOD REDEEMED THAT.
  • 00:25:53.010 --> 00:25:55.060
  • BUT I POST A LOT OF WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH MY LITTLE GIRL
  • 00:25:55.080 --> 00:25:59.030
  • BECAUSE I'M JUST UNDONE THAT I GET TO BE HER MOM
  • 00:25:59.050 --> 00:26:01.250
  • AND A LOT OF LAUGHING.
  • 00:26:01.270 --> 00:26:03.040
  • SO IT'S REAL LIFE BUT I'M PRETTY INTENTIONAL
  • 00:26:03.060 --> 00:26:05.260
  • ABOUT NOT SAYING THINGS THAT CAUSE DIVISION.
  • 00:26:05.280 --> 00:26:09.120
  • - YOU KNOW SPEAKING ABOUT YOUR LITTLE GIRL,
  • 00:26:09.140 --> 00:26:11.000
  • SORRY I DON'T MEAN TO TAKE UP YOUR SHOW BUT,
  • 00:26:11.020 --> 00:26:12.220
  • AS A MOM-- - IT'S YOURS. [LAUGHING]
  • 00:26:12.240 --> 00:26:14.070
  • - AS A MOM, I DO HAVE THIS QUESTION BECAUSE
  • 00:26:14.090 --> 00:26:17.020
  • I'VE GOT THREE DAUGHTERS AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS
  • 00:26:17.040 --> 00:26:19.180
  • THAT WE HAVE YET TO KNOW ABOUT,
  • 00:26:19.200 --> 00:26:21.130
  • REALLY THE EFFECTS OF SOCIAL MEDIA.
  • 00:26:21.150 --> 00:26:23.150
  • 'CAUSE DOESN'T SOMETHING HAVE TO BE AROUND FOR LIKE 20 YEARS
  • 00:26:23.170 --> 00:26:26.130
  • WHERE THEY CAN REALLY STUDY?
  • 00:26:26.150 --> 00:26:27.280
  • LIKE WHAT IS THAT LONG TERM EFFECT HAVE.
  • 00:26:28.000 --> 00:26:30.170
  • AND I DO, THE PART OF SOCIAL MEDIA
  • 00:26:30.190 --> 00:26:33.050
  • THAT MAKES ME SUPER NERVOUS IS FOR MY CHILDREN.
  • 00:26:33.070 --> 00:26:36.070
  • AND THEY DON'T HAVE IT YET
  • 00:26:36.090 --> 00:26:38.010
  • BUT THEY WATCH ME ON IT ALL THE TIME.
  • 00:26:38.030 --> 00:26:40.230
  • AND EVEN JUST WATCHING MY HUSBAND AND I
  • 00:26:40.250 --> 00:26:42.290
  • ALWAYS HAVING A DEVICE IN OUR HAND,
  • 00:26:43.010 --> 00:26:45.060
  • WHAT IS THAT GONNA MEAN FOR THEM LONG TERM?
  • 00:26:45.080 --> 00:26:48.290
  • AND WHAT DOES IT MEAN, LIKE I KNOW HOLLY DOES HAVE INSTAGRAM
  • 00:26:49.010 --> 00:26:52.170
  • CAUSE SHE'S OLDER OR SOME OF THE PEOPLE HERE THAT HAVE KIDS
  • 00:26:52.190 --> 00:26:55.000
  • THAT HAVE IT, LIKE HOW DO YOU PROTECT IT
  • 00:26:55.020 --> 00:26:59.170
  • BUT ALSO THEN TRUST THEM AND GIVE THEM SOME FREEDOM.
  • 00:26:59.190 --> 00:27:02.110
  • 'CAUSE I'M JUST IN THAT STAGE AS A MOM WHERE I'M LIKE,
  • 00:27:02.130 --> 00:27:05.050
  • I DON'T WANNA HAVE THEM FEEL LIKE
  • 00:27:05.070 --> 00:27:06.190
  • I NEVER LET THEM DO ANYTHING. - RIGHT.
  • 00:27:06.210 --> 00:27:08.200
  • - AND THEY'RE PUBLIC. - RIGHT.
  • 00:27:08.220 --> 00:27:10.090
  • - AND SO YOU GET TO SEE WHO THEY ARE FOLLOWING
  • 00:27:10.110 --> 00:27:11.260
  • AND WHO FOLLOWS THEM.
  • 00:27:11.280 --> 00:27:13.010
  • YOU GET TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE.
  • 00:27:13.030 --> 00:27:15.040
  • THEN YOU GET TO READ BECAUSE YOU'RE CONNECTED TO IT
  • 00:27:15.060 --> 00:27:17.230
  • BUT ALSO YOU'RE SCHOOLING THEM AND YOU'RE WITH THEM
  • 00:27:17.250 --> 00:27:21.230
  • AND AT ANY GIVEN TIME WITH MY DAUGHTER, IT'S LIKE,
  • 00:27:21.250 --> 00:27:24.100
  • GIVE ME YOUR PHONE. - YES!
  • 00:27:24.120 --> 00:27:26.080
  • - AT ANY MINUTE, LET ME CHECK IT AT ANY GIVEN MOMENT.
  • 00:27:26.100 --> 00:27:28.130
  • I CAN TAKE THAT AWAY FROM YOU FOR A WEEK, A MONTH TWO DAYS.
  • 00:27:28.150 --> 00:27:31.100
  • AND SHE'S COOL WITH THAT BECAUSE IT IS FOR THEIR PROTECTION
  • 00:27:31.120 --> 00:27:34.110
  • AND WE DO SAY THAT BECAUSE WE DO TELL THEM
  • 00:27:34.130 --> 00:27:36.180
  • THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT
  • 00:27:36.200 --> 00:27:38.110
  • THAT AREN'T ALWAYS WHO THEY SAY THEY ARE.
  • 00:27:38.130 --> 00:27:40.160
  • - SURE, SURE. - RIGHT.
  • 00:27:40.180 --> 00:27:41.280
  • - AND SO WE'VE GOT TO PROTECT THEM AND I THINK IT'S
  • 00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:43.030
  • SCHOOLING THEM THROUGH IT.
  • 00:27:43.050 --> 00:27:44.140
  • - I ALSO THINK, TO GIVE THEM, WE HAVE THIS LITTLE RULE
  • 00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:47.040
  • AT OUR HOUSE THAT MISSY GETS A VOTE IN EVERYTHING.
  • 00:27:47.060 --> 00:27:49.210
  • AND I SAY, BABY IT'S JUST THE TWO OF US,
  • 00:27:49.230 --> 00:27:51.240
  • I DON'T HAVE A HUSBAND YET, GOVERNOR
  • 00:27:51.260 --> 00:27:53.180
  • BUT 1-800-588, PLEASE CALL LISA FOR A DATE.
  • 00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:56.100
  • [LAUGHS]
  • 00:27:56.120 --> 00:27:57.190
  • BUT WE HAVE THIS LITTLE RULE WHERE SHE HAS A VOTE
  • 00:27:57.210 --> 00:28:01.060
  • AND I SAY, BABY THE WAY GOD HAS MADE OUR HOUSEHOLD,
  • 00:28:01.080 --> 00:28:03.200
  • I HAVE THE FINAL VOTE.
  • 00:28:03.220 --> 00:28:05.070
  • SO IF WE TIE AND IT'S AN IMPORTANT ISSUE, I WIN
  • 00:28:05.090 --> 00:28:08.200
  • BUT IF IT'S WHERE ARE WE GOING TO LUNCH TODAY
  • 00:28:08.220 --> 00:28:10.090
  • AND YOU WANT CHICK-FIL-A, WHICH SHE ALWAYS DOES
  • 00:28:10.110 --> 00:28:12.230
  • AND I WANT SOMETHING ELSE, YOU KNOW I'LL BEND,
  • 00:28:12.250 --> 00:28:15.100
  • WE'LL GO TO CHICK-FIL-A
  • 00:28:15.120 --> 00:28:16.180
  • BUT SHE HAS A VOTE IN MY PHONE SO SHE'S TOLD ME,
  • 00:28:16.200 --> 00:28:19.080
  • MOMMY I DON'T LIKE IT.
  • 00:28:19.100 --> 00:28:21.260
  • AND THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS WE DO WHEN PLAYING BY THE POOL,
  • 00:28:21.280 --> 00:28:24.160
  • I DON'T LIKE IT WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR PHONE OUT HERE
  • 00:28:24.180 --> 00:28:26.030
  • AND I'M LIKE, YES MA'AM.
  • 00:28:26.050 --> 00:28:27.180
  • THE PHONE IS UP.
  • 00:28:27.200 --> 00:28:28.260
  • - WHY DIDN'T SHE JUST THROW IT IN THE POOL?
  • 00:28:28.280 --> 00:28:30.130
  • THAT WOULD BE ONE WAY. [LAUGHS]
  • 00:28:30.150 --> 00:28:32.000
  • - THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES SHE SHOULD HAVE, I'LL TELL YOU.
  • 00:28:32.020 --> 00:28:33.150
  • ONE OF THE BIGGEST KNIVES IN MY HEART AS A MOTHER,
  • 00:28:33.170 --> 00:28:36.010
  • WAS IT ONLY TOOK ONE TIME, THAT MISSY SAID,
  • 00:28:36.030 --> 00:28:39.010
  • I WISH YOU'D LOOK AT ME INSTEAD OF THE PHONE
  • 00:28:39.030 --> 00:28:41.100
  • [GASPS] AND I WAS LIKE,
  • 00:28:41.120 --> 00:28:42.150
  • PHONE'S GOING IN THE BEDROOM.
  • 00:28:42.170 --> 00:28:44.040
  • SO WE DON'T, PHONES, SHE DOESN'T HAVE A PHONE.
  • 00:28:44.060 --> 00:28:46.290
  • I'M GONNA GIVE HER ONE WHEN SHE'S 30.
  • 00:28:47.010 --> 00:28:48.230
  • SHE'S GONNA BE 10 THIS SUMMER BUT PHONES ARE DOWN
  • 00:28:48.250 --> 00:28:52.170
  • AT MEAL TIME AND PHONES ARE DOWN AT FACE TIME.
  • 00:28:52.190 --> 00:28:55.060
  • AND SO, EVEN FOR ME TO REALIZE.
  • 00:28:55.080 --> 00:28:57.170
  • I'M SO QUICK TO PICK UP MY PHONE
  • 00:28:57.190 --> 00:28:59.080
  • WHEN I DON'T REALLY NEED IT.
  • 00:28:59.100 --> 00:29:01.040
  • I CAN PRETEND LIKE I'M LOOKING AT IT FOR BUSINESS
  • 00:29:01.060 --> 00:29:03.060
  • BUT REALLY I'M JUST WASTING TIME
  • 00:29:03.080 --> 00:29:05.170
  • AND SO I DON'T WANNA SOUND LIKE
  • 00:29:05.190 --> 00:29:07.180
  • I'M ANTI DIGITAL COMMUNICATION, I'M NOT.
  • 00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:09.270
  • I JUST THINK WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE FIRE IS REALLY WISE.
  • 00:29:09.290 --> 00:29:13.280
  • IT CAN WARM US OR IT CAN KILL US.
  • 00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:16.090
  • AND SO, I THINK AS MUCH AS WE HAVE TO BE SHEPHERDS
  • 00:29:16.110 --> 00:29:18.280
  • OF OUR CHILDREN WHEN IT COMES TO SOCIAL MEDIA,
  • 00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:21.120
  • I THINK SOMETIMES THEY CAN BE GREAT REFLECTIONS
  • 00:29:21.140 --> 00:29:23.140
  • WHEN WE'RE ON IT TOO MUCH.
  • 00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:24.270
  • - KARI, YOUR WHOLE GENERATION IS,
  • 00:29:24.290 --> 00:29:27.150
  • I MEAN YOU'VE GROWN UP WITH SOCIAL MEDIA, WITH ELECTRONICS.
  • 00:29:27.170 --> 00:29:30.160
  • YOU CAN GO INTO A RESTAURANT SOMETIMES,
  • 00:29:30.180 --> 00:29:32.020
  • YOU'LL SEE FOUR PEOPLE AS A FAMILY SITTING AT A TABLE,
  • 00:29:32.040 --> 00:29:34.160
  • EVERYONE OF 'EM ARE LOOKING AT THEIR PHONE.
  • 00:29:34.180 --> 00:29:36.230
  • NONE OF THEM ARE TALKING TO EACH OTHER.
  • 00:29:36.250 --> 00:29:38.020
  • - RIGHT, RIGHT. - HOW DO YOU STOP THAT?
  • 00:29:38.040 --> 00:29:39.220
  • - WHAT'S INTERESTING IS I THINK OUR GENERATION IS REALLY
  • 00:29:39.240 --> 00:29:43.050
  • STARTING TO NOTICE IT SO LIKE IF I'M AT DINNER
  • 00:29:43.070 --> 00:29:45.180
  • WITH SOME FRIENDS, THERE'S A HANG UP AND HANG OUT TERM.
  • 00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:49.160
  • AND IT'S VERY MUCH USED IN OUR GENERATION.
  • 00:29:49.180 --> 00:29:52.090
  • AND A LOT OF THEM ARE JUST STARTING TO REALIZE,
  • 00:29:52.110 --> 00:29:54.200
  • LIKE I JUST WANT REAL COMMUNITY.
  • 00:29:54.220 --> 00:29:57.090
  • SO EVEN IN OUR CHURCH, OUR COMMUNITY GROUPS
  • 00:29:57.110 --> 00:29:59.100
  • AND OUR NIGHTS THAT WE GET TO ALL BE TOGETHER,
  • 00:29:59.120 --> 00:30:01.110
  • EVERYONE'S A LOT MORE AWARE THAN WE USED TO BE.
  • 00:30:01.130 --> 00:30:05.050
  • I THINK THERE'S JUST BEEN THIS WHOLE SEASON OF REALIZING.
  • 00:30:05.070 --> 00:30:07.210
  • HEY, THIS IS NOT LIFE GIVING.
  • 00:30:07.230 --> 00:30:10.100
  • YOU'RE LIFE GIVING.
  • 00:30:10.120 --> 00:30:11.210
  • AND SO WHAT'S REALLY COOL IS WE'RE ALL WIRED TO BE IN
  • 00:30:11.230 --> 00:30:15.210
  • COMMUNITY WITH PEOPLE, 'CAUSE THAT'S HOW GOD MADE US.
  • 00:30:15.230 --> 00:30:18.070
  • HE MADE US TO WANT TO TOUCH EACH OTHER AND I DON'T THINK
  • 00:30:18.090 --> 00:30:21.180
  • IT'S GONNA BE QUITE AS DANGEROUS AS WE THINK IT IS.
  • 00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:24.080
  • I THINK THAT THE NEXT GENERATION IS REALIZING
  • 00:30:24.100 --> 00:30:26.080
  • THAT THEY'VE GOT TO HANG UP AND HANG OUT.
  • 00:30:26.100 --> 00:30:29.220
  • SOMETHING I WAS GONNA SAY A SECOND AGO THOUGH,
  • 00:30:29.240 --> 00:30:32.220
  • I LOVE THE STEWARDSHIP ASPECT TO SOCIAL MEDIA.
  • 00:30:32.240 --> 00:30:36.010
  • WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, LIKE ON MOTHER'S DAY,
  • 00:30:36.030 --> 00:30:39.210
  • I WANTED TO POST A SWEET PICTURE OF MY FAMILY
  • 00:30:39.230 --> 00:30:42.060
  • BUT I WAS VERY AWARE THAT SOME MOMS,
  • 00:30:42.080 --> 00:30:45.060
  • INCLUDING LIKE MY SISTER HAVE LOST CHILDREN
  • 00:30:45.080 --> 00:30:47.170
  • OR THEY'VE LOST THEIR MOTHERS.
  • 00:30:47.190 --> 00:30:50.180
  • AND I LOVE THE ASPECT OF SOCIAL MEDIA BEING ABLE
  • 00:30:50.200 --> 00:30:54.190
  • TO ENCOURAGE OTHER, NOT JUST WOMEN, BUT OTHER PEOPLE
  • 00:30:54.210 --> 00:30:57.240
  • IN THE MIDST OF CELEBRATING SOMETHING IN MY LIFE.
  • 00:30:57.260 --> 00:31:00.180
  • BUT ALSO SAYING, BUT IF YOU'RE NOT IN THIS SEASON TODAY
  • 00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:03.230
  • OR THIS PICTURE PINGS YOUR HEART, I LOVE TO BE ABLE TO SAY,
  • 00:31:03.250 --> 00:31:07.080
  • I'M PRAYING FOR YOU AND I'M THINKING OF YOU RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:31:07.100 --> 00:31:09.210
  • JUST TO POUR LIFE INTO THEM IN THE MIDST OF LIKE,
  • 00:31:09.230 --> 00:31:12.260
  • FEELING LIFE OUT OF THIS PICTURE I WANT TO POST.
  • 00:31:12.280 --> 00:31:15.180
  • SO, I WANNA SAY IT AGAIN, I DON'T THINK SOCIAL MEDIA
  • 00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:20.070
  • IS AS DANGEROUS AS WE THINK IT IS.
  • 00:31:20.090 --> 00:31:23.040
  • I THINK AS MOMS AND AS LEADERS, REALLY KEEP TALKING ABOUT IT
  • 00:31:23.060 --> 00:31:27.220
  • AND KEEP THIS OUT ON THE TABLE TO NOT LET IT
  • 00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:30.160
  • BE SOMETHING THAT CHANGES PEOPLE, YOU KNOW FOR THE WORSE.
  • 00:31:30.180 --> 00:31:34.050
  • - I LIKE YOUR PHRASE, YOU KNOW HANG UP AND HANG OUT.
  • 00:31:34.070 --> 00:31:37.070
  • I'VE ALSO HEARD OF PEOPLE, WHEN THEY GET TOGETHER FOR DINNER
  • 00:31:37.090 --> 00:31:39.120
  • EVERYBODY PUTS THEIR PHONE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TABLE
  • 00:31:39.140 --> 00:31:41.140
  • AND THE FIRST ONE WHO PICKS IT UP, HAS TO PICK UP THE CHECK.
  • 00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:43.190
  • - AWW - OH, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
  • 00:31:43.210 --> 00:31:46.010
  • - BOY THAT'LL BREAK SOME PEOPLE.
  • 00:31:46.030 --> 00:31:47.060
  • COURSE THEY SIT THERE FOR NINE HOURS.
  • 00:31:47.080 --> 00:31:48.020
  • [LAUGHING]
  • 00:31:48.040 --> 00:31:49.070
  • IT'S THE LONGEST DINNER THEY'VE EVER HAD.
  • 00:31:49.090 --> 00:31:51.040
  • IF YOU WANT REAL CONVERSATIONS WITH REAL FRIENDS.
  • 00:31:51.060 --> 00:31:55.010
  • BE SURE TO WATCH BETTER TOGETHER ON TBN.
  • 00:31:55.030 --> 00:31:57.100
  • IT'S ON WEEKDAYS, 1:30 EASTERN 12:30 CENTRAL
  • 00:31:57.120 --> 00:32:00.200
  • AND 10:30 PACIFIC OR JUST USE THE INTERNET FOR GOOD
  • 00:32:00.220 --> 00:32:05.280
  • BY VISITING THEIR WEBSITE TO WATCH BETTERTOGETHER.TV.
  • 00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:11.000
  • NOW WHEN THIS EDITION OF CONVERSATIONS CONTINUES,
  • 00:32:11.020 --> 00:32:14.080
  • I'M GONNA ASK THE LADIES ABOUT DISAPPOINTMENTS
  • 00:32:14.100 --> 00:32:16.240
  • AND DISCOURAGEMENT AND THE WAY THAT WOMEN HANDLE IT.
  • 00:32:16.260 --> 00:32:20.170
  • WHICH IS DISTINCTLY DIFFERENT FROM MEN.
  • 00:32:20.190 --> 00:32:23.200
  • THERE'S MORE CONVERSATIONS IN STORE RIGHT AFTER THIS.
  • 00:32:23.220 --> 00:32:28.060
  • [UPBEAT MUSIC]
  • 00:32:28.080 --> 00:32:30.060
  • - BETTER TOGETHER IS ALL ABOUT REAL WOMEN
  • 00:32:30.080 --> 00:32:32.080
  • WHO REALLY LOVE JESUS.
  • 00:32:32.100 --> 00:32:35.100
  • - YOU HAVE TO PROTECT WHAT GOD'S PUT ON YOUR LIFE.
  • 00:32:35.120 --> 00:32:37.250
  • YOU HAVE TO PROTECT THAT ANOINTING.
  • 00:32:37.270 --> 00:32:41.080
  • - GOD'S GOT IT THEN, GOD'S GOT IT NOW, GOD'S GOT IT HERE.
  • 00:32:41.100 --> 00:32:45.110
  • - WE COME TOGETHER EVERY WEEK TO SHARE OUR STORIES,
  • 00:32:45.130 --> 00:32:48.060
  • TO ENCOURAGE AND SUPPORT EACH OTHER.
  • 00:32:48.080 --> 00:32:49.230
  • - TRUST ME, YOU DON'T WANNA MISS THIS.
  • 00:32:49.250 --> 00:32:52.020
  • -[LAURIE] TUNE IN WEEKDAYS FOR BETTER TOGETHER.
  • 00:32:52.040 --> 00:32:58.020
  • [UPBEAT MUSIC]
  • 00:32:58.040 --> 00:33:00.190
  • - WELCOME BACK.
  • 00:33:00.210 --> 00:33:02.010
  • LAURIE, ON THIS SECTION, I'M GONNA START WITH YOU
  • 00:33:02.030 --> 00:33:04.050
  • AND TALK ABOUT DISAPPOINTMENT.
  • 00:33:04.070 --> 00:33:06.100
  • WE ALL GET DISAPPOINTED.
  • 00:33:06.120 --> 00:33:08.040
  • WE ALL HAVE DISCOURAGEMENT IN OUR LIVES.
  • 00:33:08.060 --> 00:33:10.230
  • DO WOMEN DEAL WITH THAT DIFFERENTLY THAN MEN?
  • 00:33:10.250 --> 00:33:12.250
  • MEN KINDA JUST HOLD IT IN AND DON'T TALK ABOUT IT.
  • 00:33:12.270 --> 00:33:15.220
  • WOMEN SEEM TO TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING.
  • 00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:16.270
  • - YEAH, WE TALK ABOUT IT.
  • 00:33:16.290 --> 00:33:18.280
  • THAT'S HOW WE GET THROUGH THINGS I THINK
  • 00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:20.260
  • BECAUSE WE ALWAYS SAY WE MARRY OUR BEST FRIENDS
  • 00:33:20.280 --> 00:33:24.160
  • AND I THINK WE DO AND WE BECOME SOUL MATES.
  • 00:33:24.180 --> 00:33:27.170
  • YOU KNOW, WE DON'T FIND OUR SOUL MATES,
  • 00:33:27.190 --> 00:33:29.030
  • I DON'T BELIEVE, I THINK WE MAKE OUR SOUL MATES.
  • 00:33:29.050 --> 00:33:31.130
  • BUT OUR FRIENDS ARE GONNA SEE IT.
  • 00:33:31.150 --> 00:33:35.080
  • THEY'RE GONNA SEE THINGS FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE
  • 00:33:35.100 --> 00:33:37.060
  • BECAUSE WE'RE WOMEN.
  • 00:33:37.080 --> 00:33:38.180
  • AND MEN DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO TALK ALL ABOUT THAT.
  • 00:33:38.200 --> 00:33:42.200
  • I THINK THE DISAPPOINTMENTS WE GLEAN FROM EACH OTHER.
  • 00:33:42.220 --> 00:33:46.030
  • BETTER TOGETHER ISN'T ABOUT A MAKEUP TUTORIAL
  • 00:33:46.050 --> 00:33:49.150
  • OR A CLOTHES, FASHION TUTORIAL.
  • 00:33:49.170 --> 00:33:51.190
  • IT'S ABOUT A SOUL TUTORIAL. - THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:33:51.210 --> 00:33:53.150
  • - IT'S JUST HELPING US WITH EVERY ASPECT OF LIFE,
  • 00:33:53.170 --> 00:33:57.080
  • GETTING THROUGH IT AND THE DISAPPOINTMENTS.
  • 00:33:57.100 --> 00:33:58.270
  • WE GET REAL VULNERABLE WITH ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
  • 00:33:58.290 --> 00:34:01.250
  • ALEX, ARE YOU EVER AFRAID THAT THERE'S GONNA BE
  • 00:34:01.270 --> 00:34:03.270
  • A LEVEL OF VULNERABILITY, IF YOU POUR YOUR SOUL OUT
  • 00:34:03.290 --> 00:34:06.200
  • TO ANOTHER PERSON, THAT THAT MIGHT BE BETRAYED.
  • 00:34:06.220 --> 00:34:09.280
  • - IT'S HAPPENED.
  • 00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:12.060
  • IT'S HAPPENED AND THAT'S THE RISK OF RELATIONSHIP, I THINK.
  • 00:34:12.080 --> 00:34:16.100
  • BUT WITHHOLDING, I THINK IS WORSE.
  • 00:34:16.120 --> 00:34:18.090
  • AND I'VE LEARNT TO NAVIGATED TO THROUGH THE TRANSPARENCY.
  • 00:34:18.110 --> 00:34:22.150
  • I THINK SOMETIMES, YOU HAVE TO KNOW TO TRUST.
  • 00:34:22.170 --> 00:34:25.040
  • BUT I'VE JUST RECENTLY BEEN TEACHING OUR CHURCH
  • 00:34:25.060 --> 00:34:28.210
  • HOW TO LOVE BEYOND BETRAYAL.
  • 00:34:28.230 --> 00:34:30.270
  • BECAUSE GOD NEVER ACTUALLY ASKED US TO TRUST ONE ANOTHER,
  • 00:34:30.290 --> 00:34:33.230
  • HE ASKED AS TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER.
  • 00:34:33.250 --> 00:34:35.130
  • TRUST IN HIM, LOVE ONE ANOTHER.
  • 00:34:35.150 --> 00:34:37.240
  • AND THE RISK OF RELATIONSHIP IS BEING BETRAYED
  • 00:34:37.260 --> 00:34:41.200
  • BUT I WILL NOT LIKE, SHY AWAY AND WITHHOLD
  • 00:34:41.220 --> 00:34:46.080
  • AND BECOME AN ISLAND BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE ENEMY
  • 00:34:46.100 --> 00:34:48.270
  • WANTS FOR US, TO ISOLATE.
  • 00:34:48.290 --> 00:34:50.220
  • BUT IN ORDER FOR US, WE CAN ALWAYS WORK OUT A BETRAYAL.
  • 00:34:50.240 --> 00:34:54.160
  • WE CAN ALWAYS GO BEYOND BUT TO RETREAT IS NOT HEALTHY.
  • 00:34:54.180 --> 00:34:58.170
  • AND I THINK, I AM LIKE MISS TRANSPARENT ON LEGS.
  • 00:34:58.190 --> 00:35:02.080
  • LIKE IN MY CHURCH [LAUGHS].
  • 00:35:02.100 --> 00:35:04.240
  • AND IT'S NOT BEING TRANSPARENT IN PROCESS.
  • 00:35:04.260 --> 00:35:06.130
  • I THINK THAT'S ALWAYS DANGEROUS TOO
  • 00:35:06.150 --> 00:35:08.110
  • 'CAUSE WHEN YOU'RE IN PROCESS YOU SAY THINGS
  • 00:35:08.130 --> 00:35:10.110
  • OR YOU'RE PROCESSING THINGS SOMETIMES IN REAL TIME
  • 00:35:10.130 --> 00:35:13.140
  • AND THAT'S NOT HEALTHY.
  • 00:35:13.160 --> 00:35:14.250
  • BUT I LOVE TO BE TRANSPARENT WITH MY CONGREGATION,
  • 00:35:14.270 --> 00:35:17.150
  • WITH OUR CHURCH, AFTER THE FACT TO SAY,
  • 00:35:17.170 --> 00:35:19.160
  • HEY THIS IS THE REAL DEAL AND SOMETIMES SOME PEOPLE
  • 00:35:19.180 --> 00:35:23.060
  • CAN LOOK DOWN ON THAT AND GO,
  • 00:35:23.080 --> 00:35:24.200
  • OH WELL THEN SHE'S JUST LIKE ME BUT I ACTUALLY LIKE THAT.
  • 00:35:24.220 --> 00:35:27.200
  • 'CAUSE WE ARE LIKE ONE ANOTHER BUT THERE IS ALWAYS GONNA
  • 00:35:27.220 --> 00:35:30.270
  • BE A RISK OF BETRAYAL.
  • 00:35:30.290 --> 00:35:31.270
  • THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA BE A RISK
  • 00:35:31.290 --> 00:35:33.210
  • OF FAMILIARITY BREEDING CONTEMPT.
  • 00:35:33.230 --> 00:35:35.150
  • THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA BE THAT RISK BUT I WILL NOT SHY AWAY
  • 00:35:35.170 --> 00:35:38.120
  • FROM THAT TRANSPARENCY BECAUSE I WANNA WORK THROUGH IT
  • 00:35:38.140 --> 00:35:40.160
  • AND I'M GONNA LOVE BEYOND THAT BETRAYAL.
  • 00:35:40.180 --> 00:35:42.180
  • - NATALIE HAVE YOU EVER BEEN BETRAYED?
  • 00:35:42.200 --> 00:35:44.200
  • - OH YEAH, OH YEAH.
  • 00:35:44.220 --> 00:35:47.030
  • - HOW DO YOU COPE WITH IT.
  • 00:35:47.050 --> 00:35:48.100
  • - YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THE OLDER I GET,
  • 00:35:48.120 --> 00:35:51.110
  • THE MORE I REALIZE I DON'T NEED A TON OF FRIENDS ACTUALLY.
  • 00:35:51.130 --> 00:35:54.270
  • YOU DON'T NEED 25 FRIENDS.
  • 00:35:54.290 --> 00:35:57.290
  • AND AS A PEOPLE PLEASER, WHICH I STRUGGLE WITH,
  • 00:35:58.010 --> 00:36:01.080
  • IT'S REALLY HARD.
  • 00:36:01.100 --> 00:36:02.270
  • YOU REALLY ONLY NEED A FEW REALLY CLOSE FRIENDS.
  • 00:36:02.290 --> 00:36:05.160
  • PEOPLE THAT ARE YOUR CONFIDANTS.
  • 00:36:05.180 --> 00:36:07.120
  • PEOPLE THAT YOU CAN TELL ANYTHING TO
  • 00:36:07.140 --> 00:36:09.160
  • AND I THINK THAT WHEN YOU HAVE THE SECURITY
  • 00:36:09.180 --> 00:36:12.060
  • OF THOSE KIND OF RELATIONSHIPS WHERE YOU CAN BE HONEST
  • 00:36:12.080 --> 00:36:15.160
  • AND TRANSPARENT AND WHEN SOMEBODY BETRAYS YOU,
  • 00:36:15.180 --> 00:36:18.200
  • YOU CAN LAY IT ALL OUT.
  • 00:36:18.220 --> 00:36:20.260
  • IT'S EASIER TO HAVE A FEW CLOSE CONFIDANTS.
  • 00:36:20.280 --> 00:36:24.060
  • IT ACTUALLY HELPS ME LOVE PEOPLE BETTER BECAUSE I HAVE
  • 00:36:24.080 --> 00:36:28.170
  • THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIKE MY SISTERS AND ARE SO CLOSE.
  • 00:36:28.190 --> 00:36:33.060
  • IT HELPS ME.
  • 00:36:33.080 --> 00:36:34.190
  • AND YOU DO HAVE TO MAKE THAT CHOICE TO LOVE THEM.
  • 00:36:34.210 --> 00:36:37.160
  • AND SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST HARD TO LOVE.
  • 00:36:37.180 --> 00:36:40.050
  • THEY JUST ARE. [LAUGHS]
  • 00:36:40.070 --> 00:36:41.140
  • SOME PEOPLE ARE LIKE REALLY HARD TO LOVE.
  • 00:36:41.160 --> 00:36:43.020
  • AND I'M SURE PEOPLE SAY, THAT GIRL IS REALLY HARD TO LOVE.
  • 00:36:43.040 --> 00:36:45.110
  • SOMETIMES, BECAUSE IT IS JUST SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE.
  • 00:36:45.130 --> 00:36:49.020
  • BUT WHEN YOU CAN START TO LOOK AT IT LIKE,
  • 00:36:49.040 --> 00:36:51.140
  • OKAY THEY BETRAYED ME BUT DID THEY DO IT JUST BECAUSE
  • 00:36:51.160 --> 00:36:54.200
  • THEY'RE A TERRIBLE PERSON OR DID THEY ACTUALLY DO IT
  • 00:36:54.220 --> 00:36:57.080
  • BECAUSE THEY'RE BROKEN.
  • 00:36:57.100 --> 00:36:59.040
  • SOMEWHERE WHERE THEY'RE SO INJURED
  • 00:36:59.060 --> 00:37:01.240
  • AND WHEN YOU CAN KINDA START TO LOOK AT PEOPLE
  • 00:37:01.260 --> 00:37:05.010
  • THROUGH THE EYES OF COMPASSION,
  • 00:37:05.030 --> 00:37:06.150
  • WHICH IS ACTUALLY ONLY POSSIBLE WITH THE LOVE OF CHRIST.
  • 00:37:06.170 --> 00:37:10.040
  • IT'S ONLY POSSIBLE 'CAUSE IN AND OF OURSELVES,
  • 00:37:10.060 --> 00:37:12.240
  • WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO EVEN LOVE PEOPLE
  • 00:37:12.260 --> 00:37:15.270
  • IN THE WAY THAT GOD CREATED US TO
  • 00:37:15.290 --> 00:37:19.100
  • WITHOUT THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST.
  • 00:37:19.120 --> 00:37:21.090
  • AND I DON'T MEAN FOR IT TO SOUND OVER SPIRITUAL
  • 00:37:21.110 --> 00:37:24.150
  • BUT THE TRUTH IS THAT THE CLOSER YOU GET TO CHRIST,
  • 00:37:24.170 --> 00:37:27.240
  • THE MORE YOU STUDY HIM, THE MORE YOU ALLOW HIS NATURE
  • 00:37:27.260 --> 00:37:32.040
  • AND HIS SPIRIT TO PERMEATE EVERY ASPECT OF YOUR LIFE,
  • 00:37:32.060 --> 00:37:36.160
  • IT DOESN'T MAKE IT EASY TO LOVE PEOPLE
  • 00:37:36.180 --> 00:37:38.210
  • BUT IT MAKES IT POSSIBLE.
  • 00:37:38.230 --> 00:37:40.050
  • MAKES IT POSSIBLE TO FORGIVE.
  • 00:37:40.070 --> 00:37:42.090
  • IT MAKES IT POSSIBLE TO OVERLOOK AN OFFENSE.
  • 00:37:42.110 --> 00:37:45.000
  • NOT EASY BUT POSSIBLE. - YEAH.
  • 00:37:45.020 --> 00:37:47.060
  • - CECE, MY PASTOR ONCE SAID SOMETHING,
  • 00:37:47.080 --> 00:37:49.110
  • I WANNA SEE IF YOU'VE FOUND THIS TO BE TRUE.
  • 00:37:49.130 --> 00:37:51.200
  • HE SAID, "HURT PEOPLE HURT PEOPLE".
  • 00:37:51.220 --> 00:37:53.270
  • - MM HMM, YEAH.
  • 00:37:53.290 --> 00:37:55.140
  • - DO YOU FIND THAT TO BE-- - YEAH THAT'S TRUE.
  • 00:37:55.160 --> 00:37:57.220
  • - SO YOU'VE FOUND THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE HURTING OTHER PEOPLE,
  • 00:37:57.240 --> 00:37:59.080
  • DO IT BECAUSE THEY'RE HURTING.
  • 00:37:59.100 --> 00:38:00.050
  • - THEY'RE HURTING.
  • 00:38:00.070 --> 00:38:01.210
  • AND LIKE SHE SAID, IT'S COMING FROM A PLACE THAT IS DAMAGED.
  • 00:38:01.230 --> 00:38:06.070
  • YOU KNOW AND CAUSE WHEN YOU WALK AROUND WHOLE,
  • 00:38:06.090 --> 00:38:10.200
  • THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE FOR OTHER PEOPLE.
  • 00:38:10.220 --> 00:38:14.180
  • AND BACK TO WHAT NATALIE SAID, THE CLOSER YOU GET TO CHRIST,
  • 00:38:14.200 --> 00:38:20.050
  • THE MORE YOU WANNA BE LIKE HIM.
  • 00:38:20.070 --> 00:38:22.270
  • THE MORE YOU REALIZE THAT YOU'RE SO UNLOVABLE
  • 00:38:22.290 --> 00:38:25.290
  • BUT YET HE THOUGHT YOU WERE GREAT ENOUGH TO GO
  • 00:38:26.010 --> 00:38:29.060
  • ALL THE WAY TO THE CROSS. - YES.
  • 00:38:29.080 --> 00:38:30.250
  • - YOU KNOW, WHO AM I TO WITHHOLD LOVE?
  • 00:38:30.270 --> 00:38:34.080
  • YOU CAN'T EVEN EXPERIENCE LOVE WITHOUT WILLING TO BE HURT.
  • 00:38:34.100 --> 00:38:37.280
  • - THAT'S SO TRUE. - THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:39.180
  • - YOU KNOW, AND SO YES, HURT PEOPLE HURT PEOPLE.
  • 00:38:39.200 --> 00:38:42.230
  • I AGREE WITH THAT AND PEOPLE WHO UNDERSTAND
  • 00:38:42.250 --> 00:38:45.120
  • HAVE REALLY EXPERIENCED AND ACCEPTED THE REVELATION
  • 00:38:45.140 --> 00:38:49.140
  • OF THE LOVE OF GOD, IS SO READY TO GIVE IT OUT.
  • 00:38:49.160 --> 00:38:53.070
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:38:53.090 --> 00:38:54.130
  • - LET ME JUST THROW THIS OUT THERE TO ANYBODY
  • 00:38:54.150 --> 00:38:55.240
  • WOULD LIKE TO SAY, HOW DO YOU MINISTER TO
  • 00:38:55.260 --> 00:38:58.060
  • THAT PERSON WHO IS HURTING YOU?
  • 00:38:58.080 --> 00:39:01.230
  • HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THAT, WHAT DO YOU DO?
  • 00:39:01.250 --> 00:39:03.170
  • - OOH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, LAURIE.
  • 00:39:03.190 --> 00:39:06.250
  • THAT'S A TOUGH QUESTION. [LAUGHING]
  • 00:39:06.270 --> 00:39:08.260
  • - PASTOR ALEX?
  • 00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:10.070
  • - I DO THIS A LOT, I BLESS THEM.
  • 00:39:10.090 --> 00:39:12.270
  • - YOU HAVE TO BLESS THEM.
  • 00:39:12.290 --> 00:39:14.090
  • - I BLESS THEM WITH MATERIAL GIFTS.
  • 00:39:14.110 --> 00:39:15.270
  • I BLESS THEM WITH WORDS OF AFFIRMATION.
  • 00:39:15.290 --> 00:39:19.030
  • - KEEPING COALS OF FIRE. - THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:39:19.050 --> 00:39:20.290
  • - I'VE MOVED TOWARDS THEM AND HONESTLY IT'S AN AMA-
  • 00:39:21.010 --> 00:39:24.080
  • WE'VE HAD LIKE, YOU KNOW BEING A PASTOR OF A CHURCH,
  • 00:39:24.100 --> 00:39:26.220
  • PEOPLE ARE FICKLE AND SO ONE MINUTE THEY LOVE YOU,
  • 00:39:26.240 --> 00:39:29.080
  • ONE MINUTE THEY'RE OFFENDED ABOUT SOMETHING.
  • 00:39:29.100 --> 00:39:31.020
  • AND I REMEMBER THE LORD SAYING TO ME
  • 00:39:31.040 --> 00:39:33.010
  • WHEN I CAME TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
  • 00:39:33.030 --> 00:39:34.230
  • I WAS LIKE GOD WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO?
  • 00:39:34.250 --> 00:39:36.290
  • WHAT'S OUR MISSION?
  • 00:39:37.010 --> 00:39:38.100
  • HE SAYS I WANT YOU TO LOVE PEOPLE LIKE I LOVE THEM.
  • 00:39:38.120 --> 00:39:40.180
  • AND I'M LIKE, YEAH THAT'S GREAT
  • 00:39:40.200 --> 00:39:41.270
  • BUT WHAT DO YOU NEED ME TO DO?
  • 00:39:41.290 --> 00:39:43.220
  • AND HE SAID, YOU DIDN'T LISTEN.
  • 00:39:43.240 --> 00:39:45.220
  • HE SAID I NEED YOU TO LOVE PEOPLE LIKE I LOVE PEOPLE.
  • 00:39:45.240 --> 00:39:48.210
  • AND SOMETHING SHIFT AND I BEGAN TO WEEP.
  • 00:39:48.230 --> 00:39:52.000
  • HE SAID THAT'S GONNA MEAN YOU'RE TO LOVE
  • 00:39:52.020 --> 00:39:54.290
  • WHEN THEY DON'T LOVE YOU, YOU'RE TO LOVE WHEN
  • 00:39:55.010 --> 00:39:57.150
  • THEY BETRAY YOU, HURT YOU.
  • 00:39:57.170 --> 00:39:59.150
  • AND SO BEING A PASTOR, I WAS LIKE THE HONEYMOON PERIOD,
  • 00:39:59.170 --> 00:40:02.050
  • WAS LIKE THIS IS THE BEST CHURCH IN THE WORLD.
  • 00:40:02.070 --> 00:40:04.250
  • NO ONE IS AGAINST US AND THEN IT CAME.
  • 00:40:04.270 --> 00:40:09.240
  • AND GOD SAID, OKAY NOW YOU'VE GOT THE CHOICE.
  • 00:40:09.260 --> 00:40:13.000
  • AND IT WAS PERSONAL HURT, IT WAS BETRAYAL
  • 00:40:13.020 --> 00:40:15.020
  • AND I REMEMBER GOD SAYING, I WANT YOU TO GO TEXT THAT PERSON
  • 00:40:15.040 --> 00:40:18.150
  • LOVING ON THEM AND INVITE THEM OVER
  • 00:40:18.170 --> 00:40:21.230
  • AND BRING THEM INTO YOUR INNER SPACE
  • 00:40:21.250 --> 00:40:23.170
  • BECAUSE JESUS HAD JUDAS AND HE KNEW EXACTLY
  • 00:40:23.190 --> 00:40:27.100
  • WHAT JUDAS WAS ABOUT TO DO
  • 00:40:27.120 --> 00:40:28.200
  • BUT JESUS NEVER CHANGED HIS POSTURE.
  • 00:40:28.220 --> 00:40:31.070
  • SO MUCH SO THAT THE OTHER 11 DISCIPLES NEVER EVEN KNEW
  • 00:40:31.090 --> 00:40:35.040
  • WHO THE BETRAYER WAS.
  • 00:40:35.060 --> 00:40:36.170
  • SO IT SHOWED THAT HE KEPT CLEAN EVEN WHEN HE KNEW
  • 00:40:36.190 --> 00:40:40.190
  • THIS ONE WAS GONNA BETRAY HIM.
  • 00:40:40.210 --> 00:40:42.020
  • AND AS A PASTOR, HE WAS THE GREATEST SHEPHERD,
  • 00:40:42.040 --> 00:40:44.180
  • THE MOST PERFECT PASTOR, PERFECT PROFIT, PERFECT TEACHER.
  • 00:40:44.200 --> 00:40:48.240
  • YET HE STILL HAD A BETRAYER.
  • 00:40:48.260 --> 00:40:50.190
  • SO WHO AM I TO PUSH SOMEONE AWAY.
  • 00:40:50.210 --> 00:40:54.230
  • IN FACT, I'VE WATCHED PEOPLE REMAIN IN OUR CHURCH
  • 00:40:54.250 --> 00:40:58.080
  • BECAUSE OF THE WAY I'VE LOVED THEM.
  • 00:40:58.100 --> 00:41:00.030
  • - I'M TOTALLY INTERRUPTING YOU BECAUSE I WATCH THIS.
  • 00:41:00.050 --> 00:41:02.010
  • LIKE KARI AND I GET TO CALL YOU FRIEND
  • 00:41:02.030 --> 00:41:04.060
  • BUT WE ALSO GET TO CALL YOU PASTOR.
  • 00:41:04.080 --> 00:41:06.060
  • AND I THINK THAT, MY HUSBAND AND I ACTUALLY MARVEL AT IT
  • 00:41:06.080 --> 00:41:10.130
  • BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE SUCH A BEAUTIFUL PICTURE OF PEOPLE
  • 00:41:10.150 --> 00:41:14.000
  • WHO DO THAT WELL.
  • 00:41:14.020 --> 00:41:15.150
  • AND I THINK SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR WOMEN
  • 00:41:15.170 --> 00:41:17.250
  • IS HAVE FRIENDS THAT YOU CAN BE HONEST WITH
  • 00:41:17.270 --> 00:41:20.230
  • BUT ALSO HAVE FRIENDS THAT MAKE YOU
  • 00:41:20.250 --> 00:41:23.150
  • WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT LEVEL.
  • 00:41:23.170 --> 00:41:25.000
  • KNOW WHAT I MEAN, SURROUND YOURSELF WITH PEOPLE
  • 00:41:25.020 --> 00:41:27.020
  • THAT ACTUALLY MAKE YOU GO, YOU KNOW WHAT,
  • 00:41:27.040 --> 00:41:29.200
  • I'M NOT GONNA BE JEALOUS OF THAT,
  • 00:41:29.220 --> 00:41:30.230
  • I ACTUALLY WANT TO BE BETTER.
  • 00:41:30.250 --> 00:41:32.090
  • IT MAKES ME WANT TO KINDA LIKE, RISE UP
  • 00:41:32.110 --> 00:41:33.240
  • AND JUST SPENDING TIME WITH YOU AND BEING AROUND YOU,
  • 00:41:33.260 --> 00:41:36.290
  • YOU ALWAYS MAKE ME WANT TO STAND TALLER.
  • 00:41:37.010 --> 00:41:38.290
  • YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
  • 00:41:39.010 --> 00:41:40.170
  • YOU ALWAYS MAKE ME WANNA STAND TALLER IN THE SPIRIT.
  • 00:41:40.190 --> 00:41:42.230
  • IT'S ACTUALLY TRUE BECAUSE I'VE WATCHED THAT,
  • 00:41:42.250 --> 00:41:45.030
  • I'VE KNOWN BECAUSE WE'RE DEAR FRIENDS,
  • 00:41:45.050 --> 00:41:46.280
  • I'VE KNOWN ABOUT BETRAYAL AND I HAVE WATCHED YOU GENUINELY
  • 00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:51.120
  • NOT PUT ON, NOT BECAUSE YOU'RE LIKE,
  • 00:41:51.140 --> 00:41:53.230
  • I'M GONNA HEAP COALS ON THAT PERSON'S HEAD
  • 00:41:53.250 --> 00:41:55.230
  • AND IT'S GONNA BE SO FUN TO WATCH
  • 00:41:55.250 --> 00:41:56.280
  • 'CAUSE THAT'S SOMETIMES WHAT I WOULD DO.
  • 00:41:57.000 --> 00:41:58.100
  • [LAUGHING]
  • 00:41:58.120 --> 00:41:59.110
  • LIKE OH WATCH ME BLESS YOU, HEHEHE.
  • 00:41:59.130 --> 00:42:00.120
  • YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
  • 00:42:00.140 --> 00:42:01.220
  • BUT YOU DO IT SO, SO GENUINELY AND SO BEAUTIFULLY
  • 00:42:01.240 --> 00:42:07.070
  • AND IT'S LIKE, I WATCH THAT PART OF THAT PERSON,
  • 00:42:07.090 --> 00:42:11.010
  • THAT IT JUST BEGINS TO BREAK IT DOWN.
  • 00:42:11.030 --> 00:42:13.140
  • AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:42:13.160 --> 00:42:15.290
  • SO WHAT SHE ALL JUST SAID, IT'S REAL.
  • 00:42:16.010 --> 00:42:17.150
  • SHE LIVES THAT, SHE LIKE SO LIVES THAT.
  • 00:42:17.170 --> 00:42:22.230
  • - I THINK IT'S PRETTY POWERFUL WHAT SHE JUST SAID
  • 00:42:22.250 --> 00:42:25.200
  • BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE EVEN AWARE
  • 00:42:25.220 --> 00:42:28.150
  • THAT PEOPLE IN THE CHURCH ARE WATCHING YOU TO SEE.
  • 00:42:28.170 --> 00:42:32.260
  • [LAUGHING]
  • 00:42:32.280 --> 00:42:34.030
  • NO, BUT THEY'RE TUNING THEIR INSTRUMENT TO YOU.
  • 00:42:34.050 --> 00:42:37.170
  • BECAUSE YOU'RE THE PHYSICAL PRESENCE OF THE LORD
  • 00:42:37.190 --> 00:42:40.150
  • IN THEIR LIVES AND THEY'RE TUNING TO MAKE SURE
  • 00:42:40.170 --> 00:42:44.100
  • THEY'RE IN TUNE. - IT'S ABOUT
  • 00:42:44.120 --> 00:42:45.060
  • BEING AN EXAMPLE, ISN'T IT?
  • 00:42:45.080 --> 00:42:47.040
  • - THAT'S RIGHT - WELL I THINK WE ALL,
  • 00:42:47.060 --> 00:42:48.140
  • WE'RE ALL BEING WATCHED BY SOMEBODY.
  • 00:42:48.160 --> 00:42:50.020
  • - YES. - YES WE ARE.
  • 00:42:50.040 --> 00:42:51.130
  • - YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE ALL, SOMEONE'S WATCHING YOU.
  • 00:42:51.150 --> 00:42:55.040
  • OUR CHILDREN ARE WATCHING US.
  • 00:42:55.060 --> 00:42:56.290
  • YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN WALK IN FAITH AND WALK FAITHFUL TO GOD
  • 00:42:57.010 --> 00:43:01.160
  • AND WHAT HE SAYS, I THINK WE TRAIN A LOT OF PEOPLE.
  • 00:43:01.180 --> 00:43:06.110
  • FROM OUR CHILDREN TO OUR COMRADES,
  • 00:43:06.130 --> 00:43:10.110
  • OUR PEOPLE THAT WE WORK WITH.
  • 00:43:10.130 --> 00:43:12.050
  • YOU KNOW WE'RE ALL IN MINISTRY.
  • 00:43:12.070 --> 00:43:15.030
  • - THAT'S A GREAT POINT.
  • 00:43:15.050 --> 00:43:15.270
  • - AND YOUR ENEMY.
  • 00:43:15.290 --> 00:43:17.090
  • YOU'RE BEING A LIGHT TO YOUR ENEMY.
  • 00:43:17.110 --> 00:43:19.000
  • YOU'RE TEACHING 'EM WHAT LOVE IS.
  • 00:43:19.020 --> 00:43:20.140
  • - I HAVE A GREAT FRIEND WHO IS A GOSPEL SINGER
  • 00:43:20.160 --> 00:43:23.110
  • AND MANY YEARS AGO WHEN HIS LITTLE BOY WAS ABOUT FIVE,
  • 00:43:23.130 --> 00:43:25.260
  • THEY WERE DRIVING ON THE FREEWAY IN FORT WORTH
  • 00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:28.170
  • AND ALL THESE PEOPLE WERE CUTTING IN
  • 00:43:28.190 --> 00:43:30.050
  • AND THE TRAFFIC WAS HORRIBLE AND HE KEPT SAYING,
  • 00:43:30.070 --> 00:43:31.250
  • LOOK AT THAT IDIOT DRIVER, LOOK AT THAT CLOWN
  • 00:43:31.270 --> 00:43:33.130
  • AND AFTER AWHILE, HIS LITTLE BOY, GARY TOUCHED HIM
  • 00:43:33.150 --> 00:43:37.010
  • ON HIS SHOULDER AND SAID,
  • 00:43:37.030 --> 00:43:38.080
  • "DADDY, WE COULD BE PRETTY GOOD CHRISTIANS
  • 00:43:38.100 --> 00:43:39.130
  • "IF WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DRIVE".
  • 00:43:39.150 --> 00:43:41.180
  • - OHH! - WOW!
  • 00:43:41.200 --> 00:43:44.070
  • - THAT'S AMAZING.
  • 00:43:44.090 --> 00:43:45.230
  • - IS THAT NOT STOUT?
  • 00:43:45.250 --> 00:43:46.250
  • [LAUGHING] - I MEAN THAT IS SO GOOD.
  • 00:43:46.270 --> 00:43:51.060
  • -[ALEX] OUT OF THE MOUTHS OF BABES.
  • 00:43:51.080 --> 00:43:53.170
  • - KINDA LIKE, KABOOM.
  • 00:43:53.190 --> 00:43:55.060
  • BUT THAT GOES TO WHAT LAURIE'S SAYING,
  • 00:43:55.080 --> 00:43:57.040
  • SOMEBODY IS ALWAYS WATCHING.
  • 00:43:57.060 --> 00:44:00.020
  • - YEAH, SO IF WE CAN SHOW AND GIVE ENCOURAGEMENT,
  • 00:44:00.040 --> 00:44:06.280
  • YOU KNOW AND FORGIVE.
  • 00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:08.130
  • 'CAUSE WE'VE ALL BEEN THROUGH SOME REAL STUFF, YOU KNOW.
  • 00:44:08.150 --> 00:44:12.280
  • EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY SITTING HERE, YOU.
  • 00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:15.180
  • I'M SURE EVERYONE WATCHING.
  • 00:44:15.200 --> 00:44:17.200
  • WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH SOME STUFF.
  • 00:44:17.220 --> 00:44:19.170
  • AND SOME OF US HAVE ACTED VERY POORLY.
  • 00:44:19.190 --> 00:44:22.050
  • BUT THAT'S AN EXAMPLE TOO.
  • 00:44:22.070 --> 00:44:24.160
  • YOU KNOW, THAT YOU KNOW WHAT, I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT
  • 00:44:24.180 --> 00:44:26.190
  • BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THE FRUIT OF THAT.
  • 00:44:26.210 --> 00:44:28.280
  • BUT IF WE CAN SHOW OUR CHILDREN WELL.
  • 00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:31.050
  • IF WE CAN SHOW OUR CHILDREN HOW TO WALK IN FAITH.
  • 00:44:31.070 --> 00:44:34.040
  • IF WE CAN SHOW JUST OUR KIDS THE LOVE OF JESUS
  • 00:44:34.060 --> 00:44:38.290
  • TO SOMEONE ELSE.
  • 00:44:39.010 --> 00:44:40.180
  • I MEAN THAT'S PRICELESS.
  • 00:44:40.200 --> 00:44:43.110
  • - YEAH, THAT'S INCREDIBLE.
  • 00:44:43.130 --> 00:44:45.060
  • WELL AND GOVERNOR TO BRING IT BACK TO BETTER TOGETHER,
  • 00:44:45.080 --> 00:44:46.260
  • I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WORKS.
  • 00:44:46.280 --> 00:44:48.150
  • WHAT I'M HEARING ON THE ROAD IS,
  • 00:44:48.170 --> 00:44:50.170
  • I LOVE THAT YOU DON'T ALL HAVE IT TOGETHER.
  • 00:44:50.190 --> 00:44:53.140
  • BECAUSE ALEX DID IT BEAUTIFULLY BUT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US
  • 00:44:53.160 --> 00:44:58.230
  • HAVE SHARED A TIME THAT WE'VE BEEN BETRAYED OR WOUNDED.
  • 00:44:58.250 --> 00:45:01.160
  • AND WE DID NOT WALK THE WAY GOD WOULD HAVE US TO WALK.
  • 00:45:01.180 --> 00:45:04.180
  • AND OUR SISTERS HAVE SAID, ME TOO.
  • 00:45:04.200 --> 00:45:08.200
  • AND THEN WE DO ENCOURAGE EACH OTHER TO LIVE MORE CHRIST LIKE
  • 00:45:08.220 --> 00:45:12.290
  • BECAUSE I WAS AT A WOMEN'S CONFERENCE RECENTLY AND I ASKED
  • 00:45:13.010 --> 00:45:16.000
  • A WOMAN HOW I COULD PRAY FOR HER AND SHE SAID,
  • 00:45:16.020 --> 00:45:19.150
  • OH I DON'T NEED PRAYER. [GASPS]
  • 00:45:19.170 --> 00:45:22.060
  • I WAS LIKE, YOU'RE ABOUT TO. [LAUGHS]
  • 00:45:22.080 --> 00:45:25.030
  • AFTER I KICK YOU IN THE SHINS FOR BEING A LIAR.
  • 00:45:25.050 --> 00:45:27.210
  • [LAUGHING]
  • 00:45:27.230 --> 00:45:28.240
  • BECAUSE YOU KNOW SO MANY -- - WOW
  • 00:45:28.260 --> 00:45:30.010
  • - PEOPLE THINK IF YOU'RE ON TELEVISION
  • 00:45:30.030 --> 00:45:31.170
  • OR YOU HAVE A PLATFORM, YOU HAVE TO ALWAYS DO IT PERFECTLY.
  • 00:45:31.190 --> 00:45:34.160
  • THE BEAUTY OF BEING IN A REAL COMMUNITY IS TO GO,
  • 00:45:34.180 --> 00:45:37.060
  • THAT'S HOW CHRIST TOLD US TO DO IT.
  • 00:45:37.080 --> 00:45:40.060
  • WILL YOU HELP ME BECAUSE I DON'T DO THAT WHEN I'M DRIVING.
  • 00:45:40.080 --> 00:45:42.290
  • I LOVE THE AUTHENTICITY IN THIS GROUP,
  • 00:45:43.010 --> 00:45:45.030
  • THAT WE DO ENCOURAGE EACH OTHER TO BE MORE CHRIST LIKE
  • 00:45:45.050 --> 00:45:47.290
  • BUT WE KNOW HE'S OUR ONLY HERO.
  • 00:45:48.010 --> 00:45:50.150
  • BECAUSE WE DO IT WELL WHEN WE'RE KEEPING STEP
  • 00:45:50.170 --> 00:45:54.000
  • WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT.
  • 00:45:54.020 --> 00:45:55.160
  • BUT I CAN TELL YOU, I'VE GOT STORIES WHERE I HANDLE BETRAYAL
  • 00:45:55.180 --> 00:45:58.120
  • ALMOST THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF ALEX AND INSTEAD OF
  • 00:45:58.140 --> 00:46:03.120
  • THESE FIVE TURNING THEIR BACK ON ME, THEY SAID OH LISA,
  • 00:46:03.140 --> 00:46:07.000
  • WE'VE GOT YOUR BACK, WE'LL PRAY WITH YOU AND FOR YOU
  • 00:46:07.020 --> 00:46:09.030
  • AND HELP YOU GET TO A PLACE THAT'S MORE REDEMPTIVE.
  • 00:46:09.050 --> 00:46:11.260
  • - SO HOW DO YOU RECOVER WHEN YOU MESS UP?
  • 00:46:11.280 --> 00:46:14.080
  • WHAT'S THE RECOVERY PATH?
  • 00:46:14.100 --> 00:46:15.160
  • - NO, THE FIRST THING TO DO IS SAY, I MESSED UP.
  • 00:46:15.180 --> 00:46:17.230
  • - IF YOU LOSE YOUR TEMPER. - YES, ACKNOWLEDGE IT.
  • 00:46:17.250 --> 00:46:19.130
  • - VERY FIRST THING, CONFESSION.
  • 00:46:19.150 --> 00:46:21.060
  • - REPENTANCE IS POWERFUL.
  • 00:46:21.080 --> 00:46:23.280
  • - NO DENIAL HERE [LAUGHS].
  • 00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:26.070
  • - NO, BUT HOW TO,
  • 00:46:26.090 --> 00:46:27.180
  • YOU LOST YOUR TEMPER IN PUBLIC,
  • 00:46:27.200 --> 00:46:30.070
  • YOU SCREAMED AT SOMEONE AND THEY ALL SAW IT.
  • 00:46:30.090 --> 00:46:33.020
  • HOW DO YOU RECOVER WITH THE PEOPLE.
  • 00:46:33.040 --> 00:46:35.200
  • - WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:46:35.220 --> 00:46:37.240
  • YOU JUST, LIKE THEY SAY, YOU JUST APOLOGIZE.
  • 00:46:37.260 --> 00:46:39.090
  • I MEAN, NONE OF US CAN GO BACK AND CLEAN UP ALL THE MESSES
  • 00:46:39.110 --> 00:46:42.210
  • BUT GOD CAN. - THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:46:42.230 --> 00:46:45.160
  • - YOU KNOW?
  • 00:46:45.180 --> 00:46:46.200
  • AND THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF REPENTANCE.
  • 00:46:46.220 --> 00:46:48.230
  • REPENTANCE IS A GIFT.
  • 00:46:48.250 --> 00:46:50.080
  • TO SAY I'M SORRY AND TO BE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE YOU'RE WRONG,
  • 00:46:50.100 --> 00:46:52.280
  • THAT'S HUGE AND THEN YOU JUST PUT ONE STEP,
  • 00:46:53.000 --> 00:46:56.050
  • 'CAUSE YOU'RE GONNA FALL AGAIN.
  • 00:46:56.070 --> 00:46:57.110
  • - SURE. - WE'RE ALL GONNA
  • 00:46:57.130 --> 00:46:58.230
  • MAKE MISTAKES AGAIN BUT THAT'S WHERE GRACE COMES IN.
  • 00:46:58.250 --> 00:47:01.010
  • THE GRACE OF GOD IS AMAZING.
  • 00:47:01.030 --> 00:47:03.010
  • AND YOU KNOW, THE BIG MISTAKES
  • 00:47:03.030 --> 00:47:05.100
  • AND BECAUSE WE'RE ALL ON TELEVISION
  • 00:47:05.120 --> 00:47:06.270
  • AND A LOT OF PEOPLE SEE US MAKE MISTAKES, YOU KNOW.
  • 00:47:06.290 --> 00:47:10.000
  • I'M SO GLAD GOD IS BIGGER THAN EVERY TV CAMERA.
  • 00:47:10.020 --> 00:47:15.060
  • AND PEOPLE SEE YOUR HEART, YOU KNOW.
  • 00:47:15.080 --> 00:47:19.220
  • SO I DON'T MAKE MISTAKES AND THEN WORRY ABOUT ALL THAT
  • 00:47:19.240 --> 00:47:24.050
  • I DID WRONG.
  • 00:47:24.070 --> 00:47:25.140
  • I SAY LORD FORGIVE ME, I JACKED THAT UP REALLY BAD.
  • 00:47:25.160 --> 00:47:28.050
  • [LAUGHING]
  • 00:47:28.070 --> 00:47:29.070
  • LET THE BLOOD OF JESUS WASH MY HEART
  • 00:47:29.090 --> 00:47:30.260
  • AND THEN APOLOGIZE TO THE PERSON.
  • 00:47:30.280 --> 00:47:33.070
  • - RIGHT, RIGHT. - YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO BE
  • 00:47:33.090 --> 00:47:34.120
  • WILLING TO SAY I'M SORRY. - THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:47:34.140 --> 00:47:35.180
  • - YOU DON'T SAY, OH THEY'LL GET OVER IT.
  • 00:47:35.200 --> 00:47:36.250
  • NO, THE BIBLE INSTRUCTS US HOW TO RECOVER.
  • 00:47:36.270 --> 00:47:39.130
  • - SURE DOES. - YEAH IT DOES.
  • 00:47:39.150 --> 00:47:40.210
  • - YOU HAVE TO BE WILLING TO HUMBLE YOURSELF
  • 00:47:40.230 --> 00:47:42.100
  • AND TO SAY, I'M SORRY I MESSED UP, I DIDN'T MEAN THAT.
  • 00:47:42.120 --> 00:47:45.170
  • AND THEN LET THE LORD TAKE CARE OF THE REST.
  • 00:47:45.190 --> 00:47:48.160
  • - WE'VE HAD SOME FUN TODAY TALKING.
  • 00:47:48.180 --> 00:47:50.060
  • ACTUALLY I'VE HAD FUN LISTENING,
  • 00:47:50.080 --> 00:47:51.200
  • IS MOSTLY WHAT I'VE DONE WHICH IS HIGHLY UNUSUAL FOR ME
  • 00:47:51.220 --> 00:47:55.020
  • BUT WITH SIX WOMEN, I DIDN'T HAVE A SHOT.
  • 00:47:55.040 --> 00:47:57.050
  • [LAUGHING] - YEAH, YOU DON'T HAVE
  • 00:47:57.070 --> 00:47:58.020
  • A CHANCE. - COME ON, MAN.
  • 00:47:58.040 --> 00:47:59.200
  • I HADN'T GOT A SHOT IN THIS THING.
  • 00:47:59.220 --> 00:48:01.160
  • -[LAURIE] IT'S KINDA LIKE HERDING CATS ISN'T IT?
  • 00:48:01.180 --> 00:48:03.070
  • - NO, IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN FASCINATING.
  • 00:48:03.090 --> 00:48:05.100
  • AND I THINK ONE OF THE MOST FASCINATING THINGS
  • 00:48:05.120 --> 00:48:09.040
  • IS THE CANDOR WITH WHICH ALL OF YOU HAVE BEEN SHARING TODAY.
  • 00:48:09.060 --> 00:48:13.010
  • UM, YOU ALL ARE VERY PUBLIC PEOPLE, YOU KNOW.
  • 00:48:13.030 --> 00:48:16.050
  • YOU'RE IN VISIBLE POSITIONS THAT MAKES YOU, IN A SENSE
  • 00:48:16.070 --> 00:48:20.120
  • MAYBE A LITTLE MORE VULNERABLE THAN SOME PEOPLE
  • 00:48:20.140 --> 00:48:24.030
  • BECAUSE THERE ARE FOLKS THAT EITHER WANT TO ELEVATE YOU
  • 00:48:24.050 --> 00:48:26.110
  • ON THE PEDESTAL OR WANT TO TEAR YOU DOWN FROM ONE.
  • 00:48:26.130 --> 00:48:29.070
  • SO HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU PERSONALLY COPE WITH
  • 00:48:29.090 --> 00:48:33.030
  • THAT KIND OF PRESSURE?
  • 00:48:33.050 --> 00:48:34.290
  • - YOU KNOW NOTHING QUALIFIES US TO BE SITTING
  • 00:48:35.010 --> 00:48:38.100
  • ON THIS PLATFORM. [LAUGHING]
  • 00:48:38.120 --> 00:48:39.120
  • NOTHING DOES.
  • 00:48:39.140 --> 00:48:40.260
  • BUT IT'S BEEN A GIFT TO US, A RESPONSIBILITY AS IT WERE.
  • 00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:45.170
  • AND ALL OF OUR CONFIDENCE IS IN GOD.
  • 00:48:45.190 --> 00:48:48.140
  • - THAT'S RIGHT, 100%.
  • 00:48:48.160 --> 00:48:50.250
  • - I MEAN, WE, I'M SURE WE ALL HAVE,
  • 00:48:50.270 --> 00:48:53.070
  • I MEAN YOU'VE GOT THREE OF THE MOST AMAZING,
  • 00:48:53.090 --> 00:48:55.190
  • BEAUTIFUL SINGERS IN THE WORLD SITTING IN FRONT OF US.
  • 00:48:55.210 --> 00:48:59.150
  • OUR CONFIDENCE IN THEM IS HUGE.
  • 00:48:59.170 --> 00:49:04.050
  • BUT WE ALL STRUGGLE A LITTLE BIT WITH CONFIDENT STUFF,
  • 00:49:04.070 --> 00:49:08.090
  • I'M SURE I DO, I KNOW.
  • 00:49:08.110 --> 00:49:10.090
  • - I HAVE HAD THE JOY OF FOLLOWING THESE THREE
  • 00:49:10.110 --> 00:49:14.090
  • AND NOBODY WANTS TO HEAR THE TEACHER AFTER YOU HAVE A
  • 00:49:14.110 --> 00:49:17.060
  • GOLDEN THROAT LIKE THAT - NOT TRUE.
  • 00:49:17.080 --> 00:49:19.040
  • - BUT, I'VE TOLD PEOPLE, YOU KNOW BECAUSE I'LL HAVE PEOPLE
  • 00:49:19.060 --> 00:49:22.150
  • AFTERWARDS GO, WAS IT REALLY HARD TO FOLLOW KARI,
  • 00:49:22.170 --> 00:49:24.200
  • WAS IT REALLY HARD TO FOLLOW CECE OR NATALIE?
  • 00:49:24.220 --> 00:49:26.220
  • AND I'LL GO, NO BECAUSE THEY BAT ME AROUND.
  • 00:49:26.240 --> 00:49:31.170
  • SO IF I GET A SINGLE, THEY'RE GONNA GET A HOME RUN
  • 00:49:31.190 --> 00:49:34.230
  • AND I STILL GET THE WORLD SERIES RING AND THE $10.000 BONUS.
  • 00:49:34.250 --> 00:49:37.190
  • [LAUGHING]
  • 00:49:37.210 --> 00:49:39.020
  • BECAUSE WE'RE IN THIS TOGETHER, THIS IS A SISTERHOOD.
  • 00:49:39.040 --> 00:49:40.280
  • AND SO I THINK THE FACT THAT WE LOVE EACH OTHER SO WELL,
  • 00:49:41.000 --> 00:49:44.280
  • WE KNOW GOD USES DONKEYS AND ROCKS.
  • 00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:47.130
  • NONE OF US READ OUR OWN PRESS RELEASES.
  • 00:49:47.150 --> 00:49:49.240
  • YOU GO, I GET TO DO THIS, I CAN'T BELIEVE GOD ALLOWS ME
  • 00:49:49.260 --> 00:49:53.140
  • TO DO THIS.
  • 00:49:53.160 --> 00:49:54.240
  • AND TO GET TO DO THIS WITH PEOPLE I LOVE AND RESPECT
  • 00:49:54.260 --> 00:49:57.290
  • AND WOULD DO LIFE WITH ANYWAY, I MEAN THAT'S JUST ICING
  • 00:49:58.010 --> 00:50:00.210
  • ON AN ALREADY REALLY AMAZING CAKE.
  • 00:50:00.230 --> 00:50:02.220
  • - AND SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT WHEN YOU HAVE PRESS,
  • 00:50:02.240 --> 00:50:05.180
  • YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
  • 00:50:05.200 --> 00:50:09.220
  • 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, PEOPLE MIGHT LIKE YOU THIS WEEK
  • 00:50:09.240 --> 00:50:12.010
  • LIKE SHE SAID, ALEX SAID
  • 00:50:12.030 --> 00:50:14.090
  • AND THEY MIGHT NOT LIKE YOU NEXT WEEK AND THAT'S OKAY.
  • 00:50:14.110 --> 00:50:17.020
  • - GOOD OR BAD PRESS. [LAUGHING]
  • 00:50:17.040 --> 00:50:18.110
  • - YEAH GOOD OR BAD, YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
  • 00:50:18.130 --> 00:50:20.120
  • ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WILL KEEP YOU HUMBLE IS MOTHERHOOD.
  • 00:50:20.140 --> 00:50:23.260
  • SHE HAS BABIES, YOU KNOW I WOULD COME BACK FROM GETTING
  • 00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:26.190
  • WHATEVER AWARD AND YOU PICK UP YOUR BABY
  • 00:50:26.210 --> 00:50:29.020
  • AND THEY THROW UP ON YOU.
  • 00:50:29.040 --> 00:50:30.050
  • - YEAH. - YES.
  • 00:50:30.070 --> 00:50:31.180
  • - THAT'S LIKE PERFECT, IT'S HUMILITY IN ITS BEST FORM.
  • 00:50:31.200 --> 00:50:35.000
  • YOU JUST UNDERSTAND WHO YOU ARE IN CHRIST
  • 00:50:35.020 --> 00:50:37.170
  • AND SO WHEN THEY PRAISE YOU,
  • 00:50:37.190 --> 00:50:39.000
  • SAY PRAISE GOD.
  • 00:50:39.020 --> 00:50:39.250
  • GIVE ALL PRAISE TO GOD.
  • 00:50:39.270 --> 00:50:41.090
  • WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT YA, SAY YOU KNOW WHAT, GOD LOVES ME.
  • 00:50:41.110 --> 00:50:43.130
  • YOU KNOW AND SO YOU JUST HAVE TO KNOW WHO YOU ARE
  • 00:50:43.150 --> 00:50:47.070
  • OR ELSE YOU'RE GOING TO PICK UP WHAT THEY SAY YOU ARE.
  • 00:50:47.090 --> 00:50:50.110
  • - WELL IT'S CONSTANT HEART CHECK TOO BECAUSE,
  • 00:50:50.130 --> 00:50:53.120
  • I MEAN I SAY THIS ALL THE TIME,
  • 00:50:53.140 --> 00:50:55.160
  • WE'RE NOT BUILT FOR THE SPOTLIGHT.
  • 00:50:55.180 --> 00:50:57.270
  • NONE OF US ARE BECAUSE IN OUR FLESH, WHICH ALL OF US HAVE.
  • 00:50:57.290 --> 00:51:03.190
  • TOO MUCH SPOTLIGHT IS GONNA BRING IT,
  • 00:51:03.210 --> 00:51:05.230
  • I DON'T CARE WHO YOU ARE OR HOW SPIRITUAL YOU ARE,
  • 00:51:05.250 --> 00:51:08.220
  • IT ACTUALLY IS GONNA BRING OUT THE WORST IN YOU.
  • 00:51:08.240 --> 00:51:10.190
  • WE'RE NOT BUILT FOR THE SPOTLIGHT.
  • 00:51:10.210 --> 00:51:13.240
  • SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE THIS CONSTANT CHECK BEFORE THE LORD.
  • 00:51:13.260 --> 00:51:18.030
  • AND I ALSO DON'T WANT TO HAVE FALSE HUMILITY EITHER.
  • 00:51:18.050 --> 00:51:20.160
  • I DON'T WANT TO HAVE THIS LIKE OH, I'M, OH NO I'M NOT.
  • 00:51:20.180 --> 00:51:23.010
  • NO, I HAVE A VOICE THAT GOD PUT IN ME AND I'M GONNA USE IT
  • 00:51:23.030 --> 00:51:26.290
  • FOR HIS GLORY AND I'M GONNA BE OKAY WITH THE FACT
  • 00:51:27.010 --> 00:51:29.200
  • THAT THAT'S WHAT HE'S GIVEN ME SO NOW I'M JUST GONNA RUN
  • 00:51:29.220 --> 00:51:32.080
  • MY RACE, IN MY LANE, THAT CHRIST HAS CARVED OUT FOR ME.
  • 00:51:32.100 --> 00:51:36.140
  • AND HAVE THAT HEART CHECK OF OKAY,
  • 00:51:36.160 --> 00:51:39.080
  • LIKE IF IT'S HARD TO FOLLOW ME THEN I DIDN'T DO MY JOB.
  • 00:51:39.100 --> 00:51:42.130
  • BECAUSE REALLY MY JOB IS TO USHER IN THE PRESENCE OF GOD
  • 00:51:42.150 --> 00:51:46.270
  • SO THAT PEOPLE'S HEARTS ARE OPEN TO HEAR HIS WORD.
  • 00:51:46.290 --> 00:51:49.220
  • AND IF I DIDN'T DO THAT, THAT MEANS I WAS PERFORMING
  • 00:51:49.240 --> 00:51:52.210
  • AND THAT IS WHERE I FEEL LIKE, LORD, SOMETIMES I DO.
  • 00:51:52.230 --> 00:51:56.000
  • SOMETIMES I DO PERFORM AND SOMETIMES I DO WANT TO HAVE
  • 00:51:56.020 --> 00:51:59.290
  • CECE WINANS SITTING IN THE CROWD GOING, WHEW GIRL!
  • 00:52:00.030 --> 00:52:02.160
  • SOMETIMES I WANT THAT AND THAT'S MY FLESH.
  • 00:52:02.180 --> 00:52:06.080
  • AND YOU HAVE TO CONSTANTLY CHECK THAT BEFORE THE LORD.
  • 00:52:06.100 --> 00:52:09.080
  • - YES, YES YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO CHECK YOUR FLESH AND THAT'S
  • 00:52:09.100 --> 00:52:11.290
  • WHAT THE WORD DOES.
  • 00:52:12.010 --> 00:52:13.200
  • SO THAT'S THE ONLY PRESS THAT WE, IF YOU STAY IN THE WORD.
  • 00:52:13.220 --> 00:52:15.200
  • TRUST ME, THE HOLY SPIRIT KNOW HOW TO CUT YOU RIGHT DOWN.
  • 00:52:15.220 --> 00:52:18.020
  • - YES. - MIRROR.
  • 00:52:18.040 --> 00:52:19.200
  • - BUT, IT'S OKAY TO SAY I WANT CECE WINANS SAY,
  • 00:52:19.220 --> 00:52:23.180
  • I MEAN WE'RE HUMAN, WE HAVE FUN.
  • 00:52:23.200 --> 00:52:24.270
  • [LAUGHING] - ENCOURAGEMENT.
  • 00:52:24.290 --> 00:52:26.240
  • - YEAH. - I DO!
  • 00:52:26.260 --> 00:52:28.100
  • - AND I DO SCREAM BECAUSE SHE HAS AN INCREDIBLE GIFT OF GOD
  • 00:52:28.120 --> 00:52:31.100
  • BUT IT'S A GIFT.
  • 00:52:31.120 --> 00:52:32.270
  • YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING?
  • 00:52:32.290 --> 00:52:34.030
  • AND IT BELONGS TO HIM SO EVERY PLATFORM,
  • 00:52:34.050 --> 00:52:35.200
  • EVEN WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT UH, SOCIAL MEDIA.
  • 00:52:35.220 --> 00:52:40.090
  • THAT'S A PLATFORM, EVERY PLATFORM IS NOT ABOUT YOU.
  • 00:52:40.110 --> 00:52:43.290
  • IT'S ABOUT HIM. - THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:52:44.010 --> 00:52:45.250
  • - AND SO, IF YOU NEVER GET THAT CONFUSED
  • 00:52:45.270 --> 00:52:47.200
  • THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A BALANCE.
  • 00:52:47.220 --> 00:52:49.110
  • - AND I LOVE WHAT SHE SAID, EVERYBODY IN THEIR LANE.
  • 00:52:49.130 --> 00:52:52.220
  • THAT'S WHAT WE, ALL STAY IN OUR LANE AND AGAIN,
  • 00:52:52.240 --> 00:52:55.190
  • WE'RE ALL GOING IN THE SAME DIRECTION BUT EVERYBODY DOES
  • 00:52:55.210 --> 00:52:58.240
  • WHAT THEY'RE CALLED TO DO.
  • 00:52:58.260 --> 00:53:00.230
  • YOU CAN'T BE A BAD LISA HARPER.
  • 00:53:00.250 --> 00:53:03.150
  • -[CECE] THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:53:03.170 --> 00:53:04.130
  • - THERE'S ONLY ONE LISA HARPER,
  • 00:53:04.150 --> 00:53:06.160
  • YOU KNOW THERE'S ONLY ONE NATALIE,
  • 00:53:06.180 --> 00:53:08.110
  • THERE'S ONLY ONE GOOD VERSION OF US, AND IT IS US.
  • 00:53:08.130 --> 00:53:13.170
  • - AND TRUTHFULLY, THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE START TO DERAIL,
  • 00:53:13.190 --> 00:53:16.070
  • ISN'T IT BECAUSE WE LOOK AT SOMEBODY ELSE'S RACE
  • 00:53:16.090 --> 00:53:20.040
  • AND WE JUST WANNA RUN THEIRS OR WE WANNA BE IN THEIR LANE
  • 00:53:20.060 --> 00:53:23.070
  • AND AS SOON AS YOU LIKE, TAKE THAT DETOUR,
  • 00:53:23.090 --> 00:53:25.180
  • IT'S JUST NOT YOUR RACE AND SO YOU GET OFF FOCUS
  • 00:53:25.200 --> 00:53:28.260
  • 'CAUSE CHRIST REALLY DOES.
  • 00:53:28.280 --> 00:53:30.210
  • WHETHER YOU'RE IN THE SPOTLIGHT OR YOU'RE NOT,
  • 00:53:30.230 --> 00:53:32.050
  • WHETHER YOU WORK THIS INCREDIBLE JOB
  • 00:53:32.070 --> 00:53:34.150
  • OR WHETHER YOU'RE A STAY AT HOME MOM,
  • 00:53:34.170 --> 00:53:35.260
  • ALL OF IT IS A LANE THAT CHRIST HAS CARVED OUT FOR YOU.
  • 00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:40.010
  • AND WHEN YOU'RE RUNNING YOUR RACE WITH THAT AUTHORITY,
  • 00:53:40.030 --> 00:53:43.010
  • THERE'S JUST CONTENTMENT.
  • 00:53:43.030 --> 00:53:44.230
  • - NOTHING LIKE IT, IT'S BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:53:44.250 --> 00:53:46.020
  • - I REMEMBER BRIAN HYDEBUNKY, WHO I JUST LOVE.
  • 00:53:46.040 --> 00:53:49.010
  • THE GREATEST EVANGELIST, HE SAID THIS ONE STATEMENT.
  • 00:53:49.030 --> 00:53:52.240
  • AND HE SAID, "IF YOU ARE ENAMORED BY THE PRAISES OF MAN,
  • 00:53:52.260 --> 00:53:55.030
  • "YOU'LL BE DESTROYED BY THEIR CRITICISM".
  • 00:53:55.050 --> 00:53:57.220
  • AND HE SAID, SO DON'T GET ENAMORED WITH THE PRAISES
  • 00:53:57.240 --> 00:54:01.030
  • BECAUSE THEN YOU GET DEVASTATED BY CRITICISM.
  • 00:54:01.050 --> 00:54:04.100
  • SO STAY WITH THE AUDIENCE OF ONE, WHICH IS JESUS.
  • 00:54:04.120 --> 00:54:07.260
  • AS LONG AS HE THINKS YOU'RE GREAT, IT'S ALL GOOD.
  • 00:54:07.280 --> 00:54:11.120
  • - ALSO, THOUGH IT'S SO POWERFUL TO BE KNOWN BY FRIENDS
  • 00:54:11.140 --> 00:54:16.290
  • THAT YOU'RE DOING LIFE WITH,
  • 00:54:17.010 --> 00:54:18.100
  • THAT DON'T CARE WHAT YOU'RE DOING ON THE PLATFORM.
  • 00:54:18.120 --> 00:54:21.060
  • - ABSOLUTELY. - NOT IMPRESSED.
  • 00:54:21.080 --> 00:54:22.190
  • - RIGHT, THAT YOU GO OVER TO THEIR HOUSE WITH NO MAKEUP
  • 00:54:22.210 --> 00:54:24.170
  • AND YOUR SWEATS ON AND YOU JUST DO LIFE TOGETHER.
  • 00:54:24.190 --> 00:54:27.090
  • AND THAT YOU ALLOW THEM INTO THE INNER PARTS OF YOUR HEART
  • 00:54:27.110 --> 00:54:31.190
  • TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK TRUTH EVEN IF IT HURTS.
  • 00:54:31.210 --> 00:54:34.280
  • TO HAVE, THAT IS SO IMPORTANT IN MY LIFE.
  • 00:54:35.000 --> 00:54:37.100
  • I DON'T KNOW WHO I WOULD BE TODAY,
  • 00:54:37.120 --> 00:54:38.240
  • HONESTLY THIS IS BLESS ALEX DAY,
  • 00:54:38.260 --> 00:54:41.270
  • BUT SHE'S LITERALLY ONE OF MY DEAREST FRIENDS
  • 00:54:41.290 --> 00:54:44.200
  • AND SHE'S BEEN ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE FOR ME THAT HAS SAID,
  • 00:54:44.220 --> 00:54:48.060
  • I LOVE YOU AND I LOVE YOU ENOUGH TO TELL YOU,
  • 00:54:48.080 --> 00:54:51.090
  • YOU NEED TO WORK ON SOME OF THESE THINGS IN YOUR LIFE.
  • 00:54:51.110 --> 00:54:52.190
  • AND IT'S LIKE, UGH, IT'S THAT IRON SHARPENING IRON.
  • 00:54:52.210 --> 00:54:56.280
  • BUT I THINK THOSE THINGS ARE THE THINGS THAT KEEP EVERYTHING
  • 00:54:57.000 --> 00:54:59.150
  • REAL WHEN WE DO GET UP AND DO WHAT WE'RE CALLED
  • 00:54:59.170 --> 00:55:02.010
  • TO DO IN FRONT OF PEOPLE.
  • 00:55:02.030 --> 00:55:03.250
  • I'M NOT TAKEN OUT BY THE HARD STUFF BECAUSE I'M KNOWN.
  • 00:55:03.270 --> 00:55:08.190
  • YOU KNOW, AND IT'S LIKE TODAY'S A TOUGH DAY
  • 00:55:08.210 --> 00:55:10.170
  • AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE MINISTERING
  • 00:55:10.190 --> 00:55:12.020
  • AND ACTUALLY IT'S THOSE EXACT SAME FRIENDS THAT ARE LIKE,
  • 00:55:12.040 --> 00:55:15.230
  • WELL YOU'RE CALLED TO IT AND YOU HAVE TO GO
  • 00:55:15.250 --> 00:55:17.050
  • AND YOU'RE GONNA DO IT TODAY.
  • 00:55:17.070 --> 00:55:18.160
  • - YOU KEEP SAYING FRIENDS AND I THINK IT GOES BACK
  • 00:55:18.180 --> 00:55:20.090
  • TO BETTER TOGETHER. - YES.
  • 00:55:20.110 --> 00:55:21.190
  • - YOU KNOW, SHE MENTIONED THE LOCAL CHURCH.
  • 00:55:21.210 --> 00:55:23.150
  • THAT'S IMPORTANT.
  • 00:55:23.170 --> 00:55:25.260
  • WE CAN'T WALK THIS WALK WITHOUT ONE ANOTHER.
  • 00:55:25.280 --> 00:55:28.250
  • - RIGHT. - THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:55:28.270 --> 00:55:30.020
  • - HE DIDN'T DESIGN FOR US TO WALK IT ALONE.
  • 00:55:30.040 --> 00:55:31.270
  • SO WHEN WE EMBRACE ONE ANOTHER, WE EMBRACE HIM.
  • 00:55:31.290 --> 00:55:35.100
  • AND WE BECOME BETTER AND WE BECOME BALANCED.
  • 00:55:35.120 --> 00:55:38.200
  • - I GUESS YOU MIGHT SAY THAT YOU BECOME BETTER, TOGETHER.
  • 00:55:38.220 --> 00:55:42.040
  • - YES - WE DO.
  • 00:55:42.060 --> 00:55:43.140
  • - WE'RE GETTING BETTER TOGETHER.
  • 00:55:43.160 --> 00:55:45.050
  • - YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT WOULD BE A GREAT THEME FOR A
  • 00:55:45.070 --> 00:55:46.280
  • TELEVISION SHOW. [LAUGHING AND CLAPPING]
  • 00:55:47.000 --> 00:55:48.270
  • - YOU KEEP COMING UP WITH THAT SAME GREAT IDEA.
  • 00:55:48.290 --> 00:55:51.000
  • - WOW.
  • 00:55:51.020 --> 00:55:52.070
  • AND I THINK AFTER OUR CONVERSATION TODAY,
  • 00:55:52.090 --> 00:55:53.170
  • YOU'RE PROBABLY SAYING, THIS IS A SHOW I WANNA WATCH.
  • 00:55:53.190 --> 00:55:57.260
  • THAT IS, IF YOU'RE FEMALE.
  • 00:55:57.280 --> 00:55:59.190
  • HOWEVER, IF YOU'RE MALE, YOU MAY WANT TO WATCH IT
  • 00:55:59.210 --> 00:56:02.000
  • BECAUSE YOU'VE ALWAYS WONDERED, WHAT ARE THEY SAYING BEHIND
  • 00:56:02.020 --> 00:56:04.200
  • OUR BACKS? - THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:56:04.220 --> 00:56:06.140
  • - WELL NOW THEY'RE DOING IT ON TELEVISION EVERY SINGLE DAY
  • 00:56:06.160 --> 00:56:08.120
  • AND YOU GET A CHANCE TO FIND OUT ABOUT IT.
  • 00:56:08.140 --> 00:56:10.210
  • I WANNA SAY THANKS TO ALL OF YOU.
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  • - AW, THANK YOU GOVERNOR. - WHAT A DELIGHT
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  • TO BE WITH YOU.
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  • THIS HAS BEEN A REAL, TRUE PLEASURE.
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  • I HOPE YOU ENJOYED THIS EDITION OF CONVERSATIONS,
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  • FEATURING THE HOSTS OF BETTER TOGETHER.
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  • I SURE DID.
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  • NOW IF YOU'RE NOT ALREADY WATCHING THIS DAILY SHOW ON TBN,
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  • YOU'RE MISSING OUT ON A REAL GAME CHANGER.
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  • SO BE SURE TO TUNE IN WEEKDAYS.
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  • REMEMBER IT'S 1:30 EASTERN, 12:30 CENTRAL, 10:30 PACIFIC
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  • OR YOU CAN GO TO THEIR WEBSITE AT BETTERTOGETHER.TV.
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  • THIS IS STRAIGHT FORWARD TELEVISION.
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  • IT'S HONEST AND ENCOURAGING.
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  • I HOPE YOU DON'T MISS IT.
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  • THANKS AGAIN FOR TUNING IN.
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  • WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT TIME ON CONVERSATIONS.
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