Creflo Dollar - The Chastening Of The Lord

September 1, 2025 | S E | 28:51

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Creflo Dollar | Creflo Dollar - The Chastening Of The Lord | September 1, 2025
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  • You are being dealt with by a father who loves you?
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  • Remember, this is chastening of the lord,
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  • It's the father dealing with you in love,
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  • But he is going to be dealing with you.
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  • Creflo: i'm going to talk to you about
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  • "the chastening of the lord."
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  • What is that?
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  • How does it work?
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  • Is god going to go back to punishing people?
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  • If you know him, you know the answer to that.
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  • But, what i need to do,
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  • Is really dig into this this morning.
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  • And i need you to really dig in this with me this morning.
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  • I don't have any cartwheels or flips,
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  • Just digging into this thing, just going line by line.
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  • You can do a cartwheel when you get it, amen?
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  • So let's go to the book of hebrews, chapter 12
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  • In the king james.
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  • Hebrews chapter 12 as we begin to deal with this issue
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  • Of the chastening of the lord.
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  • Hebrews chapter 12 and let's start at verse 5, and i read
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  • It--read verse 5 through 11, hebrews 12:5 through 11:
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  • "and you have forgotten
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  • The exhortation which speaketh unto you
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  • As unto children.
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  • My son despise not the chastening of the lord."
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  • Don't despise it, there's a reason for it,
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  • There's an objective behind it.
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  • There's something that he's trying to work out of you.
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  • He says, "nor faint."
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  • So don't despise it, nor faint, "when thou art rebuked of him.
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  • For whom the lord loveth he chasteneth and scourges every
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  • Son whom he receiveth.
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  • If you endure chastening, god deals with you as with sons.
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  • For what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
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  • But if you be without chastisement, whereof
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  • All are partakers, then are you bastards and not sons.
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  • Furthermore, we have had fathers of our flesh which
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  • Corrected us and we gave them reverence or respect.
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  • Shall we not much rather be in subjection unto
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  • The father of spirits and live?
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  • For they, verily, for a few days, chastened us
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  • After their own pleasure, but he for our profit."
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  • So this is gonna be for our profit.
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  • "that we might be partakers of his holiness.
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  • Now, no chastening for the present seemeth
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  • To be joyous but grievous.
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  • Nevertheless, after it yielded the peaceable fruit
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  • Of righteousness, unto them which are exercised--
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  • It's yielded unto them which are exercised thereby."
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  • Now, one aspect of the discipline of grace,
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  • Is not always recognized as being of grace,
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  • And it is the chastening of the lord.
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  • It's an aspect of the discipline of grace.
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  • We gotta--we gotta-- we gotta teach on this too.
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  • We can't bypass this, you know.
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  • "well, i know it's in the scripture somewhere, but i don't
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  • Really wanna hear about it."
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  • Chastening is god the father dealing with his child in love.
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  • Now that's the foundation of this.
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  • Chastening is god the father.
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  • Now what i just said, god the father.
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  • It's god acting as father, disciplining or dealing with
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  • His children in love.
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  • God deals with us.
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  • He doesn't punish us, but he deals with us.
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  • Under the old testament, there was punishment
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  • For not keeping the law.
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  • But in this new testament, under this covenant of grace,
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  • God is not the judge, he's the father,
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  • And he will deal with his children, how?
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  • In love. everybody say, "in love."
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  • Cause the scripture just said, "for whom the lord loveth,
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  • He chasteneth."
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  • Now, he says, "if he loves you, he chasteneth."
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  • Wow.
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  • It is a sign of sonship and a reminder that one
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  • Has not been forsaken by god.
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  • Chastisement is a sign that you are a son of god.
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  • If you don't know chastisement, your sonship is in question.
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  • And if everybody's on the bus, say amen.
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  • I know i ain't lost nobody that quick, i just got started, amen?
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  • [laughs]
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  • Now, because chastening is at times, accompanied
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  • By the visitation of distress and affliction, it is at time,
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  • In fact, let me show you this before i get going.
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  • 1 peter chapter 5 and 9--i was pretty fascinated with this
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  • Because, you know, he says that, you know, our--
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  • The the chasing of the lord is a sign that we are sons of god
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  • And that he chasteneth all of those who are his sons.
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  • In 1 peter chapter 5 and 9 he says, "whom resisted for--
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  • Steadfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions,
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  • Afflictions are accomplished in your brethren
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  • That are in the world."
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  • So not only you and me, but all of our brethrens
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  • Around the world, he said, there are some afflictions
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  • That are gonna be accomplished.
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  • Now i don't want you jumping ahead of me, 'cause if you do,
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  • You might get in fear or you might get a little depressed,
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  • So don't jump ahead.
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  • This is a good story.
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  • Like for a moment it's gonna feel like, oh my god,
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  • What happened to the freedom in grace?
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  • Now we gotta get to the nitty gritty on this stuff, amen?
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  • So, because chastening is at times,
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  • Accompanied by the visitation of distress and affliction,
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  • It's often confused with punishment.
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  • And so, we just showed you that afflictions and distresses will
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  • Come as a result of chastening, but it's not punishment.
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  • It's not true that it's punishment for punishment
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  • Is of god, who was the judge.
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  • Punishment is dealing-- is the god who is the judge
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  • And justice exacting the full penalty of his broken law.
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  • So, in the old testament, if you broke the law, you were punished
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  • Because god--because of the god of justice,
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  • There had to be that punishment.
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  • The bible says the wages of sin is death.
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  • People died for complaining.
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  • You remember that little list about, i mean several thousand
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  • People fell dead because they were complaining.
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  • How many of you know the church would be empty this morning
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  • If people still fell dead for complaining?
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  • And the pulpit would be empty too.
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  • In this covenant--in this covenant of the law, there is
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  • No fatherhood of god in that covenant of the law, there
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  • Is no expression of his love in that covenant of the law.
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  • Punishment is the wrath of god poured out upon
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  • All who reject his son today.
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  • It is condemnation that should
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  • Come upon this unbelieving world.
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  • And the believer in christ, the bible says, shall not come
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  • Into condemnation, but is passed from death unto life.
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  • I need you to see that.
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  • John chapter 5 and verse 24, king james, john 5:24.
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  • I need you to see, there is no way, now how,
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  • You and i who are born again today, under the father of love,
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  • We are not to come into condemnation.
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  • He says, "verily, verily, i say unto you, he that heareth my
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  • Word and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life."
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  • Now if you're saved, say out loud, "i have--" well say,
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  • "i have everlasting life, with christ."
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  • All right, he says,
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  • "and he shall not come into condemnation."
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  • But what happened is you passed from death when you were
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  • Unsaved, to life, now that you're saved, praise god.
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  • And then romans 6:14, just to verify this again for you,
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  • Romans 6:14 says,
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  • "for sin shall not have dominion over you--" why?
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  • "you are not under the law, where there is punishment,
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  • You are under grace," where there is this unrestrained,
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  • Restricted of-- beloved--of love god.
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  • He is--you are not under the law but under grace."
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  • Say, "i am under the grace of god."
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  • Okay, so if that comes up anytime throughout this sermon,
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  • Just wipe it out.
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  • If a thought comes up, "oh my goodness, god's punishing me
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  • Or you know, because of god's punishment, i'm gonna end up
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  • In hell," no, no, no your destiny has already been set.
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  • You've already passed from death to life.
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  • You are being dealt with by a father who loves you.
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  • Remember, this is chastening of the lord.
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  • It's the father dealing with you in love.
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  • But he is going to be dealing with you.
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  • Now, let no one presume, and this is just to get this out, to
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  • Make sure we got it, the--that the grace of god--don't presume
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  • Upon the grace of god and think that because he shall not come
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  • Into condemnation, don't think that just because you
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  • Don't come into condemnation, that you can live according
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  • To the desires of this old carnal nature without suffering
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  • The full consequences thereof.
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  • What am i saying?
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  • Sin has consequences.
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  • "oh, but i'm under the grace of god and the father loves me."
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  • Sin has consequences, it does.
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  • I told you the other week, you go fooling around with
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  • Somebody's wife and the husband come home early and pulls
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  • The shotgun out and you died early and then god said,
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  • "what you here for?" consequences.
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  • You under grace, being buried.
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  • You get that, right?
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  • There's no way, nowhere where grace is the license
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  • Or the okay to sin.
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  • Grace is how you get out of sin, it's not permission to sin.
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  • Amen?
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  • And the church said amen.
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  • And the wall said amen.
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  • God does deal with the sins of believers.
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  • This is by chastening.
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  • He does deal with the sin of believers, and how is he gonna
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  • Deal with the sin of believers?
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  • This is by chastening.
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  • Now, god's chastening is to correct and to purify.
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  • So there is sin going on, there is some habits going on,
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  • Stuff going on.
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  • You're saved, you'll get to heaven, but he says,
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  • "i have the job as a father to correct
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  • And i have a job as a father to purify."
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  • Not to imply that it's-- you know, to make you guilty.
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  • God's not gonna use guilt to try to get you out of it,
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  • But he wants to clear up the imperfections,
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  • To correct and to purify.
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  • The chastening is to correct it and to purify it.
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  • See, we're no longer slaves to sin.
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  • You just might need a little help.
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  • To correct and to purify.
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  • All right.
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  • And the reason why i'm so--just kind of making sure we start
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  • Off right, is that you sometimes don't go--you'll get--you'll
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  • Go to the extreme, and every time something bad happened
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  • To you, you're like, "well, god let that happen,
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  • Ah, because he trying to show me something."
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  • No, sometimes it happened 'cause of what you did.
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  • Yeah.
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  • God was like, "oh, i wasn't intending on using that at all,
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  • What happened?"
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  • Now, will he permit certain things?
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  • Yes, and sometimes some of the stuff you start,
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  • He'll just permit it on.
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  • Yeah, i'm gonna show you this.
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  • Now, before you pull out your degree, thinking you know more
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  • Than everybody, just let me finish saying what i gotta say.
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  • I can see it on some of you now.
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  • "well, you know, i...i don't agree with that right now."
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  • You ain't hurt me because i had a chance to sit down and look at
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  • 40 something years of my life and ministry and said,
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  • That's the truth.
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  • That's the truth.
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  • Oh my god.
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  • Man, i wonder if that hadn't happened,
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  • What would i have done?
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  • God knows how to get your attention.
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  • "well the lord--the lord-- the lord--the lord--
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  • The lord corrects us with words."
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  • I don't--i don't disagree, he does correct you with words.
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  • The problem is you ain't listening to those words.
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  • He told you to stop, he told you, "don't do that."
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  • He told you, "do go no--that way."
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  • He told you to leave that girl alone.
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  • He told you, "don't call fred no more," and you keep calling him.
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  • He's--he told you that, he told you that.
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  • He told you that not only through your spirit, but he had
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  • A prophet come up and say it, "thus sayeth the lord."
  • 00:16:33.105 --> 00:16:37.543
  • So he been trying to talk to you in words.
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  • Ya'll know what i'm talking about don't--?
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  • He been trying.
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  • Some of y'all remember talkin' about,
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  • "i knew i wasn't supposed to do that."
  • 00:16:45.918 --> 00:16:48.587
  • Or watch this, this is a famous one,
  • 00:16:48.587 --> 00:16:50.756
  • "something told me."
  • 00:16:50.756 --> 00:16:52.324
  • Now you--now you wanna call god a something.
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  • "something told me not to come here."
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  • You get married, wake up next morning, old roscoe wakes up
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  • With his curly--curls in his hat and a six pack,
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  • And he floating in the air, turning his head around,
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  • Spitting up green stuff.
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  • And he looks at you because you a biblically acquiring woman,
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  • He says, "give me some coffee or i'll choke you out."
  • 00:17:15.747 --> 00:17:18.383
  • And you're like, "ahh.
  • 00:17:18.383 --> 00:17:20.385
  • Something told me not to marry roscoe."
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  • So, let me show you something and i wanna use gold
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  • And the dewdrops of the morning as an illustration of what
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  • I believe's going on here.
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  • Hebrews 12:29 reminds us that god is a consuming fire.
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  • Gold is chastened that it may become pure.
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  • How?
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  • Intense heat melts it into a liquid and thus separates it
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  • From all of the impurities.
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  • And then there's the dewdrops sparkling in the morning
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  • And that was by the heat of yesterday's sun,
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  • Drawn as a vapor from the stagnant pool.
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  • And then the cool of the night condenses it into water so pure
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  • That it refracts the rays of the sun into full beauty of
  • 00:18:26.485 --> 00:18:30.255
  • The spectrum when you see it.
  • 00:18:30.255 --> 00:18:32.724
  • Now both of these, both these processes, the one dealing with
  • 00:18:32.724 --> 00:18:38.263
  • The gold and the one dealing with the dewdrops, both
  • 00:18:38.263 --> 00:18:41.366
  • These processes are for the sole purpose of purification.
  • 00:18:41.366 --> 00:18:47.673
  • And so likewise, is the chastening of the father's love.
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  • It is to remove all which is unpleasing to him.
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  • And what have we learned that is unpleasing to him?
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  • Self-dependence. self-dependence.
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  • Listen to me carefully, self-dependence.
  • 00:19:14.833 --> 00:19:19.471
  • Remember the series we did on the purpose of trials?
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  • The trial of your faith is the purification of your faith.
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  • It is a removal of all impurities
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  • Of dependence on self.
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  • Dependence on self versus dependence on god.
  • 00:19:34.853 --> 00:19:41.326
  • Self-dependence is impure and needs to be removed.
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  • You cannot, will not spend time,
  • 00:19:49.101 --> 00:19:51.403
  • You will not spend time in heaven in self-dependence.
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  • That is going to be burned off. you're gonna go to heaven.
  • 00:19:55.274 --> 00:20:00.445
  • Now, a lot of people like, "if i can just make it in,
  • 00:20:00.445 --> 00:20:02.214
  • I'll be all right."
  • 00:20:02.214 --> 00:20:03.548
  • I don't wanna just make it in, cause i'm gonna show you
  • 00:20:03.548 --> 00:20:05.183
  • Tonight, today, a lot of folks gonna make it in,
  • 00:20:05.183 --> 00:20:07.686
  • But some will have gain and some will suffer loss.
  • 00:20:07.686 --> 00:20:11.823
  • You still gonna be in heaven.
  • 00:20:11.823 --> 00:20:14.326
  • And i was looking at that, i'm like--
  • 00:20:14.326 --> 00:20:16.628
  • I got kind of nervous when i saw that.
  • 00:20:16.628 --> 00:20:18.030
  • Wait a minute, am i still in heaven?
  • 00:20:18.030 --> 00:20:19.765
  • And the scripture literally says, "you'll still be in
  • 00:20:19.765 --> 00:20:21.667
  • Heaven, but you may suffer loss versus gain."
  • 00:20:21.667 --> 00:20:28.874
  • And i'm like, man, i gotta to get in this.
  • 00:20:28.874 --> 00:20:31.243
  • I wasn't gonna teach it, i figured they ain't ready for
  • 00:20:31.243 --> 00:20:32.978
  • This, let's do this next year.
  • 00:20:32.978 --> 00:20:34.346
  • He said, "no, now."
  • 00:20:34.346 --> 00:20:39.518
  • Now the answers to this question, the unrighteous,
  • 00:20:40.852 --> 00:20:48.460
  • Why do the righteous suffer?
  • 00:20:48.460 --> 00:20:50.862
  • Why do the righteous have to go through stuff?
  • 00:20:50.862 --> 00:20:53.498
  • Why do the righteous have to be afflicted?
  • 00:20:53.498 --> 00:20:55.600
  • Y'all do know that right?
  • 00:20:55.600 --> 00:20:57.469
  • "no, no, no, i don't believe the righteous have to suffer."
  • 00:20:57.469 --> 00:20:58.937
  • Boy read the bible.
  • 00:20:58.937 --> 00:21:00.305
  • "they that live godly shall suffer," what?
  • 00:21:00.305 --> 00:21:06.912
  • How many y'all trying to live godly?
  • 00:21:06.912 --> 00:21:09.815
  • All right, you're going to go through some stuff.
  • 00:21:09.815 --> 00:21:12.617
  • You're going to meet some stuff.
  • 00:21:12.617 --> 00:21:15.454
  • I just get so freaked out when i meet christians
  • 00:21:15.454 --> 00:21:17.456
  • Who are playing like they never went through nothing.
  • 00:21:17.456 --> 00:21:21.960
  • "hey man, how you doing?"
  • 00:21:21.960 --> 00:21:23.662
  • "perfect, flawless, all is well."
  • 00:21:23.662 --> 00:21:25.364
  • "is all well all the time?"
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  • "oh yes, amen."
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  • No, no, no, you lying, you're lying because god is going to
  • 00:21:28.233 --> 00:21:34.506
  • Use these afflictions, and the things we have to go through and
  • 00:21:34.506 --> 00:21:40.946
  • The persecutions, and people talking about you, and losing
  • 00:21:40.946 --> 00:21:45.617
  • Your job and not having enough money to pay your rent,
  • 00:21:45.617 --> 00:21:47.686
  • All your money spent.
  • 00:21:47.686 --> 00:21:49.121
  • A little bit to buy some food, baby need a pair of shoes.
  • 00:21:49.121 --> 00:21:50.956
  • Look, you got a light bill due.
  • 00:21:50.956 --> 00:21:52.290
  • You even got a gas bill too.
  • 00:21:52.290 --> 00:21:53.625
  • Telephone disconnect.
  • 00:21:53.625 --> 00:21:54.960
  • Wait till your next paycheck, paycheck bounce on you,
  • 00:21:54.960 --> 00:21:56.895
  • What are you gonna do?
  • 00:21:56.895 --> 00:21:58.296
  • We have issues.
  • 00:21:58.296 --> 00:22:06.538
  • It's called life, no one's exempt from it.
  • 00:22:06.538 --> 00:22:11.910
  • So what does he plan on doing with all of these things,
  • 00:22:11.910 --> 00:22:16.982
  • Persecutions and stuff that comes our way?
  • 00:22:16.982 --> 00:22:19.851
  • And so this answers the question why do righteous suffer?
  • 00:22:19.851 --> 00:22:25.090
  • The unrighteous, all who have not accepted righteousness of
  • 00:22:25.090 --> 00:22:28.427
  • God, all who are not born again, they are not in the sight of god
  • 00:22:28.427 --> 00:22:32.431
  • Gold to be chastened.
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  • There is no chastisement for people
  • 00:22:35.133 --> 00:22:37.235
  • Who have not been born again.
  • 00:22:37.235 --> 00:22:39.738
  • That--it's for those who are sons, it's not for those who
  • 00:22:39.738 --> 00:22:45.010
  • Have not been born again, okay?
  • 00:22:45.010 --> 00:22:48.046
  • There is no spiritual life to free from impurities
  • 00:22:48.046 --> 00:22:52.818
  • Of this world.
  • 00:22:52.818 --> 00:22:54.219
  • There is no spiritual life to free from the impure impurities
  • 00:22:54.219 --> 00:22:58.056
  • Of--i mean, a guy who's not born again, there--
  • 00:22:58.056 --> 00:23:00.759
  • He ain't got no spiritual life, so we're no--
  • 00:23:00.759 --> 00:23:02.661
  • The--he already bound to hell.
  • 00:23:02.661 --> 00:23:08.400
  • So there is no need to try to do any getting rid of impurities
  • 00:23:08.400 --> 00:23:14.706
  • Of self-dependence, cause that's how he live.
  • 00:23:14.706 --> 00:23:19.578
  • "it's my life, i'm gonna do what i wanna do with it."
  • 00:23:19.578 --> 00:23:24.516
  • Ephesians 2, verse 1 says something.
  • 00:23:24.516 --> 00:23:27.986
  • Look at that, i wanna show you this real quick.
  • 00:23:27.986 --> 00:23:30.055
  • I mean, those people are already dead in trespasses and sin.
  • 00:23:30.055 --> 00:23:33.492
  • There's no, there's no spiritual life to free something--
  • 00:23:33.492 --> 00:23:37.729
  • Somebody from some impurities.
  • 00:23:37.729 --> 00:23:39.998
  • Verse 1 says, "and you have-- he quickened,
  • 00:23:39.998 --> 00:23:42.033
  • Who were dead in trespasses and sin."
  • 00:23:42.033 --> 00:23:46.171
  • There are people that are dead in trespasses and sin.
  • 00:23:46.171 --> 00:23:49.140
  • So while the unrighteous do not suffer by chastening, there
  • 00:23:49.140 --> 00:23:53.678
  • Awaits the judgment and the fiery indignation which shall
  • 00:23:53.678 --> 00:23:57.449
  • Devour them who fail to make jesus lord of their life.
  • 00:23:57.449 --> 00:24:02.554
  • People don't go to hell because of their behavior, they go to
  • 00:24:02.554 --> 00:24:06.791
  • Hell because they reject jesus.
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