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Creflo Dollar | Creflo Dollar - The Chastening Of The Lord | September 3, 2025
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- Creflo: you know, what happens when you done did
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- Everything you know to do, watch this, and it doesn't work?
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- Have you ever been there before?
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- I've done everything i know to do, and it's not working.
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- Now watch this, here's what we say--i don't--
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- I don't know why we don't get this, "and finally i, say god,
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- I don't know what else to do so i might as well trust you."
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- And then something awesome happens.
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- Anybody ever did that before?
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- Over and again, right?
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- "i done looked for a job, i done called, i done went on
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- The internet, i done called all the people who promised me they
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- Can get me a job, i done did everything i knew to do.
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- Well, lord, i might as well trust you," and god was like,
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- "good, i've been trying to get you outta my way
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- For the longest.
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- I had your job four months ago, when you first started."
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- So why didn't he just give it to you right then?
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- "i'm trying to show you the necessity of trusting me.
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- Not to trust me optionally.
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- Not an option, no, no, no.
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- To trust me as a necessity, as a life, waking up trusting me."
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- You know, stuff can happen-- these days and times, it's--
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- Somebody says, "well i don't wanna get any risk,"
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- There's risk everywhere.
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- This day and time, you can go to the grocery store and get shot.
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- In this day and time, you can be driving, and something happen,
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- You can be on the way home, didn't know a storm was coming,
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- Tornado caught your car.
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- This day and time, i gotta trust god.
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- I mean what you gonna do, as taffi and i went through,
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- What you gonna do when you over the pacific ocean,
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- And the engine go out, and it was supposed to be brand-new?
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- And it went out, you over the pacific ocean,
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- What you gonna do, call the justice league, superman?
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- Ain't nobody coming, ain't nobody gonna show up.
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- Hey, glory to god, the only person you can call is jesus.
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- And we did, we did.
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- I was [speaking in tongues]
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- And i was looking for the escape hatch
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- [speaking in tongues]
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- I didn't know whether he was gonna rescue me
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- In the air or rescue me on water.
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- But either way i'm gonna give him a chance to rescue me.
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- That's the only one i could depend on.
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- Not nobody, nowhere gonna be able to help me out
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- In the middle of the pacific ocean but jesus.
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- "now, take that incident and how you depended on me then,
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- And depend on me for everything in your life."
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- You following what i'm saying?
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- So, the believer is exercised by chastening only as
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- He yields to the hand of god.
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- Only as he yields to the hand of god.
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- Now, okay here it is,
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- 1 corinthians, chapter 3, verse 12-15, turn there.
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- Some are not exercised by chastening; some people
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- Just won't do it.
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- They pass through the trials that god allows, and then they
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- Come out without yielding to god's hands.
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- We all used to probably do that, just pass on through the trials
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- And then just kinda, pick up from where we left off.
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- So, what happens?
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- These the lord shall deal with in his own way after this life
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- Has been passed, the unmistakable teaching that we
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- Have all but ignored in 1 corinthians, chapter 3 and 12,
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- I bring to you now.
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- Verse 12, "now if any man build upon this foundation," now the
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- Foundation is jesus, our dependence upon him, he's our
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- Foundation, "any man builds upon this foundation gold, silver,
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- Precious stones, hay, or wood-- hay, and stubble; every man's
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- Work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it because
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- It shall be revealed by fire."
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- Not hellfire, consuming fire.
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- "it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every
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- Man's work to see what source it came from, what sort it is."
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- So, all of our works while we were alive, all of it's gonna be
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- Tried and tested by the fire in heaven,
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- The consuming fire of god.
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- "if any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon," so all
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- The stuff you did, if it abides, "he shall receive a reward."
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- So, if your works--if your works abide the fire,
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- You're gonna receive a reward.
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- "if any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss:
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- But he himself shall be saved,"
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- So we're not talking about going to hell.
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- You in heaven, but your works are being tested.
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- And let me simplify it, your works are being tested to see:
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- Were those works born out of dependence upon god or were
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- Those works born out of dependence upon self?
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- What you built, was it built by depending on god
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- Or was it built by depending on self.
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- Wow.
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- Wow.
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- "if any man's work shall be burned, it shall suffer loss:
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- But he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire."
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- Now let's go through this real quick.
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- So that the issue here is--the issue here is not eternal life,
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- Or everlasting damnation, that's not the issue here--
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- This is not the issue of eternal life--everybody in heaven here.
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- The issue here is that some will receive gains,
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- Some will suffer loss, both in heaven.
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- Two groups here.
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- Three words each.
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- Two groups of three words each describe the different materials
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- With which a believer builds.
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- In the first group you have wood, hay, and stubble.
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- The first group--no the first group are the things
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- That stand the test, gold, silver, and precious stones.
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- They stand the test.
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- But then the other group, things that are consumed:
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- Wood, hay, and everybody used stubble to burn.
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- So, let's look at the wood, hay, and stubble.
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- The wood, hay, and stubble is used figuratively,
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- And it speaks of humanity and the things of the flesh.
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- Wood is a more valuable building material that hay,
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- Because it can be shaped, it can be beautified,
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- Beautiful wood cabinets and floors,
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- It has a certain degree of durability and stability.
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- But hay lacks all of these qualities, and stubble
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- Is always spoken of as only fit for burning.
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- All of these represent, wood, hay, and stubble, represents
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- Human accomplishments.
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- Things done in self-will, things done by human power,
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- For self-gratification, for acceptance by men,
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- Things done so that people will accept you.
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- To men, some of these things seem attractive and enduring,
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- Others have little or no value and are transitory,
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- But to god all are the same, they are without value, only
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- To be consumed by fire because they are human accomplished,
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- They are based in self-effort.
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- However, gold, silver, precious stones,
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- They stand the test of fire, and they endure.
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- So, gold in the bible symbolizes deity, the things of god.
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- Gold symbolizes the things of god.
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- Silver symbolizes redemption through jesus christ,
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- Delivered through jesus.
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- And precious stones refer to valuable building stones
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- That will endure.
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- The structure is great, and it has lasting value.
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- Now we know in 1 peter, chapter 2 and 5,
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- That believers are called living stones,
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- Built in a spiritual house.
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- And jesus is the what? chief cornerstone.
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- So, this points to the thought that only those works which are
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- Of god, according to his will and by his power,
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- Those which in some way contribute to the building
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- Of the church of christ, will survive god's test by fire.
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- So, think about what i'm saying here.
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- Whatever you did here, whatever you're--
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- You know, pleased with, was it built by your effort
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- Or was it built by depending on him.
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- It's the most sobering thought that the consuming fire of god
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- Shall burn out everything that does not contribute
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- To god's purpose for this age.
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- And for many believers this may be all their earthly life
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- Being burnt out.
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- Think about if you spent all your christian life, you got
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- Saved, you made jesus the lord of your life,
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- And you are in heaven.
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- You made it to heaven.
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- And now, you got all these works that you know you did.
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- And on the inside, you feeling pretty big about yourself.
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- "oh yes, i was a member of this department, that department,
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- Oh yes, amen."
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- I was a preacher, i preached to 39 nations,
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- [speaking in tongues]
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- And then the fire tested,
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- And everything burned except for one day.
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- The day you depended on god to save you.
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- I said, "oh, heck no.
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- What."
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- I don't know about you, but i'm like, "oh no, all this.
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- All these folks, all these headaches, all this sweat,
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- All this traveling, all that.
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- And it's gonna burn up?"
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- 'cause it was--hah hah...
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- I'm being honest with you, i'm tripping out, it's gonna burn up
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- Because i didn't depend on you?
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- I'm like, "not here, oh no, i saw it going through the list.
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- Everything i'm involved in and reevaluating now,
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- Is this a me or is this a god?"
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- 'cause if it's a me, it ain't gonna last in heaven.
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- But if it's for god, it'll stand the test.
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- I wanna build my works outta gold, and silver, and
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- Precious stones, so when the fire is released,
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- I'll have gain and not loss.
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- "but those whose building abide shall receive a reward."
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- It is, however, of great importance to recognize that
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- The reward is not given because of the amount of building
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- That has been done, but because of the kind of materials
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- That were used when you did it.
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- These materials must be in accordance with god's plan for
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- The building, a great amount of building with wood,
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- And hay, and stubble will produce a large fire.
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- A small amount of building with gold, silver,
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- And precious stones will endure and be rewarded.
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- It's so amazing.
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- The large number of people that are extremely active believers;
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- To find that they shall suffer a great loss,
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- Instead of receiving a great reward.
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- It is popularly thought that much and faithful service
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- For christ will earn for a believer
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- A better position in heaven.
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- In other words, a personal gain will accrue to those
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- Who do much for god.
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- So, this emphasis is entirely out of harmony with god's plan
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- Of grace because it makes self-gain the object
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- Of the endeavor that you do.
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- And when this happens, the motive is no longer,
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- "i did it 'cause i love god," the motive is no longer
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- That it was done out of a labor of love.
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- The motive was, i did this so i can have a better position
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- In heaven, so i did it.
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- Rewards cannot be payment of a debt owed by god to one
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- Who has done much for him.
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- For that would violate the basic principles of grace.
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- Because god gives everything freely out of his own loving
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- Heart, nothing in the eternal state will have been earned
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- By the efforts of those who by grace and grace alone
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- Have been granted access to that thing.
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- So, rewards will be the gift of god's grace,
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- Just as truly as the gift of eternal life.
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- So, when you get to heaven and get the reward,
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- You still didn't earn it.
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- Whatever gifts you got, revelation says,
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- We gonna take our crowns and cast them at his feet.
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- Because whatever reward you get, you have to back up
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- And ask yourself, "my whole life was depending on him,
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- So how can i receive a reward."
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- So, in heaven you'll take all those crowns, and you'll say,
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- "lord, i know better.
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- Anything i was able to do, was 'cause i depended on you.
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- Here you go.
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- There you go, lord.
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- There you go."
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- I hope you had it--man, i hope it ain't just, "here you go."
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- Heh.
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- Lemme close this.
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- He who builds with gold and silver and precious stones,
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- Uses the things that are of god.
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- He builds in full dependence of god.
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- Both his power and his will.
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- So, the love of christ, not the expectation of rewards,
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- Constrains you to build.
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- He's not concerned, not with personal glory,
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- But that god is gonna be given glory.
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- Building with full dependence upon god.
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- I want you walking outta here today with this attitude:
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- I can't do nothing.
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- Isn't that the same attitude--
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- Here's jesus with this exact illustration.
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- I do nothing, except i do it through the father.
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- And how are you and i faking that we can do anything
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- In self-dependence.
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- You accepted jesus as lord of your life?
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- You good man, you're going to heaven.
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- But that's--all of the sudden that's not--
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- That's not what i'm after right now.
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- I mean, heaven yeah.
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- But i don't wanna get to heaven and found out i lived all my
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- Life in self-dependence, and i had him to come into my life.
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- To do what, sit down, watch me think
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- I can live this life without him?
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- So where are we today?
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- Systems are failing, governments
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- Are gonna begin to topple and fall.
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- Wars and rumors--of wars all over the place.
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- Bible prophecy hooking up with russia
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- And china coming together.
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- The middle east is now breaking out with chaos,
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- And chaos, and chaos.
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- And you can't hardly turn the news on without just--
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- Just freaking out.
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- So much bad stuff.
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- Children killing children.
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- It's just--it just keeps going, more, and more, and more.
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- The last days, i asked god, "why is all this stuff happening
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- In the last days?"
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- And i like to think this--that this is what he said to me, is
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- That, "it's my last push to try to get people to depend on me."
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- God, i depend on you.
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- I depend on you.
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- We've had to depend on god for a long-time man.
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- I had a couple meetings--the fbi had to come to the meeting
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- Because there were death threats on me and taffi's life.
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- And i'm--what am i gonna do, cancel it?
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- No, i trust you, i trust you god.
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- Live this life, live your final days in total dependence on him.
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- You don't know when the day or the hour's gonna come, but
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- Whenever it comes, bless god, you wanna be able to get outta
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- Here saying, "i depended on god all my life, throughout time,
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- And i will depend on him throughout all my eternity."
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- Trust in the lord.
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- Through it all, through it all, we listen to that this morning.
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- I've learned to trust in jesus, i've learned to trust in god.
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- Through it all, through it all, you see it now, through it all.
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- I've learned to depend upon his word.
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- Through it all.
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- And i don't know the all that some of you
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- Are going through right now.
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- But i have to believe that it is to get you to this place,
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- I've learned to depend and trust him.
- 00:23:32.213 --> 00:23:40.054
- Well, i don't know if you got anything outta that,
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- But i sure got happy.
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- Amen?
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- Every head bowed, every eye closed please,
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- If you could hold your walking, i would appreciate it.
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- Father we--wow.
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- We ask you help us lord, to look over our lives, examine
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- Ourselves, and show us the areas of our life where we're
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- In self-dependence.
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- Show us that impurity.
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- Let us hear you as you speak to us and let us yield to you
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- As you exercise us through chastening.
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- We love you so much.
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- Announcer: do you ever wonder if god is punishing you?
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- In his two message series, "the discipline of grace,"
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