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Creflo Dollar | Creflo Dollar - The Chastening Of The Lord (Part 2) | September 4, 2025
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- Creflo dollar: jesus was already punished in our place.
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- That was jesus's job.
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- Jesus took our punishment so we don't have to be punished.
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- Now, what does it sound like if he took our punishment so we
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- Don't have to be punished and then you're
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- Still expecting to be punished?
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- So now you got to change your view and your perspective of how
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- You're looking at these things that are happening to you.
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- "this is not punishment.
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- God is trying to guide me.
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- God's trying to correct me.
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- God's trying to show me some things."
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- ♪ this is your world ♪
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- ♪ so let's vow to make it a better place. ♪
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- Creflo: romans chapter 8, verse 28 in the nlt; romans
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- Chapter 8 and verse 28 in the nlt, and then 2 corinthians
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- Chapter 4 and verse 17.
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- We're going to continue on this subject of
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- The chastening of the lord.
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- Theologians for quite some time have worked to try to deal with
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- Certain words that were put here like scourge and punish, and
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- People have often wondered, "you know, is god going to punish me
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- Or is he a punisher?"
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- We're going to deal with that this morning.
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- But we've got to, i feel, understand this area of the
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- Chastening of the lord so that we won't fight certain things
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- That show up in our lives that are designed for our maturity,
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- That are designed to cause us to grow, that are designed to burn
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- Out the impurity of self-dependence so that we can
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- Learn how to be dependent upon god.
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- And so in romans chapter 8 and--you know, there's one word
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- I got that i believe is going to help really simplify this so
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- That you can get it and go with it and do what you need to do
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- Because i believe we're right in the middle of god kind of giving
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- Us like a final exam and he's raising us up.
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- You and i both know stuff getting ready to happen, and the
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- Peace that jesus left us is the peace that says you're going to
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- Have peace when other people don't have peace and you'll have
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- Your peace even in the middle of trouble.
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- So no matter what happens, whatever happens can't steal
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- The jesus peace from you.
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- Okay?
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- So we're in preparation of these next few months
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- And years that are to come.
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- You will be ready.
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- You're not going to be stressed out and all that other stuff.
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- You're just going to know your god.
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- Amen?
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- Praise god.
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- Verse 28 he says, "and we know that god causes everything to
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- Work together for the good of those who love god and are
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- Called according to his purpose for them."
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- So god is going to cause everything to work together for
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- Good for those who love god and are called
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- According to his purpose.
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- So whatever you're going through right now that you may not
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- Understand why you're going through right now, god is going
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- To use it and he's going to cause it to work together and
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- Somehow you're going to see the good of the stuff
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- That you went through.
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- You're going to see the good of the afflictions that showed up.
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- See, god is a potter.
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- He knows how to take the good clay and the bad clay.
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- He'll take the bad clay and mix it up with the good clay and you
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- Ain't going to be able to find the bad no more.
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- So we know god causes everything to work together.
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- Now, he doesn't cause all of that negative stuff to happen,
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- But he can work it in.
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- All right?
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- He cause it to work together for the good of those who love god
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- And are called according to his purpose.
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- And then 2 corinthians chapter 4 and verse 17 says, "for our
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- Present troubles are small and won't last very long."
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- Okay.
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- So don't let what happens tomorrow run you away from what
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- You believe god told you to do.
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- "for our present troubles are small and won't last very long."
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- Now, they look big to you, but from heaven perspective it's
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- Small, won't last very long yet they produce for us a glory.
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- They produce for us a glory that vastly outweighs them and will
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- Last, this glory, forever.
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- So let's talk about the chastening of the lord and let's
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- Keep nailing into this thing.
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- The chastening of the lord is the discipline--it is the
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- Discipline or the correction that god
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- Provides to his children.
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- It is the discipline and/or the correction that god
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- Provides for his children.
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- It is a form of spiritual guidance that helps direct us
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- Towards righteousness.
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- It helps direct us towards godliness, and it helps to
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- Direct us towards complete dependence upon god.
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- So basically you have this guide, the holy spirit, and
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- God's decided, "okay.
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- Well, you're here.
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- You're wired for a purpose."
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- And throughout this life stuff's going to happen and the
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- Chastening of the lord is going to be there to discipline and
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- Correct you and to guide you.
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- So even when you get off path--i love this.
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- You get off path, there'll be a roadblock that will cause
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- Frustration to let you come to the point of realizing, "maybe i
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- Need a realignment."
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- Frustration is an emotional response to something blocking
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- What you want.
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- Let me say that again.
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- Frustration is an emotional response towards a roadblock
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- That's gotten in the way of something you want, and that
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- Frustration is caused because you want something and you want
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- It when you want it and when you don't get it it's that roadblock
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- That's in the way; and the real issue just may be you're so
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- Focused on that's what you want and not focused
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- On what god wants.
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- And so god's committed to guiding you.
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- And so what happens sometimes is a roadblock will come there and
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- The emotional response will be there.
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- That's why we got to mature emotionally.
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- Emotional response will be there, and all god is saying,
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- "hey, you need a realignment.
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- You're going the wrong way, and i love you too much for you to
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- Go down this path that you think is the right path."
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- So the frustration will come.
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- So quit asking god, "why this happened to me?"
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- And start asking him, "what is it you want me
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- To get out of this?"
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- Are you all listening to me now?
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- I'll say that here's where we are right now.
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- Oh, god, i got away from my notes already.
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- Okay.
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- Think with me for a moment.
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- The people that wrote these letters that went in this new
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- Testament didn't have these letters when they wrote it.
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- There was no bible for the people who wrote this.
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- So they got the word of god from god.
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- What they got was a rhema word, and they took the rhema word and
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- Wrote it down so we could have access to a logos
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- Or a written word.
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- But it was never designed to stay there.
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- What it was saying was, "for all of the stuff that's getting
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- Ready to happen in this world, let me speak to these men of god
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- And they're going to--i'm going to inspire them," god-breathed,
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- "and they're going to write some stuff down."
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- But it wasn't written down from them.
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- They heard it from god and they wrote it down.
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- And we read about breakthrough all throughout the bible for
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- People who didn't have nothing written down, but god said and
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- Then a breakthrough took place and god spoke
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- And something happened.
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- But where we are today, we got comfortable with the written
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- Word not understanding that the written word is just a step into
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- The rhema word.
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- God doesn't want you to just stay there with
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- The written word of god.
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- He wants the written word of god to lead you back to the rhema
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- Word of god.
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- Y'all don't hear what i'm saying.
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- In other words, it's one thing for you to know what the
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- Scripture say.
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- It's another thing for you to know what god said to you.
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- What is god saying to you?
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- Because breakthrough won't come just from the word of god,
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- Breakthrough comes only from a word from god.
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- What is god speaking to you?
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- "well, pastor, i'm sorry.
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- I can't hear the lord."
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- Houston, we got a problem.
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- That's why this written word encourages a personal intimate
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- Relationship with the holy spirit because this written word
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- Is designed to take you to the ultimate word, which is the
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- Rhema word where god's talking to you one on one.
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- God says, "i want you to get up and go there at 9:30.
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- And when you get there at 9:30, i'm going
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- To cause something to happen."
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- And then you come back home and say, "i got a job that i thought
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- I'd never get."
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- But see, you're sitting over here with the written word
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- Arguing and fussing about doctrine when god's just trying
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- To get you over here so he can talk to you about what you need
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- To do every day of your life.
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- I don't know if any of you were here.
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- Years ago we were in the school and we were on a friday night,
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- And the praise singers were singing and i got up and the
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- Lord spoke to me and said, "go to atlanta baptist church right
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- Now," which was the name of the chapel.
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- He said, "go to them right now and say to them, 'god wants to
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- Move world changers out of an apartment into a home.'"
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- And he said, "that's all i want you to say."
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- All right.
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- So i'm up here.
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- We're in church.
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- And i said i just heard god, and i said,
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- "keep singing until i get back.
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- Don't stop."
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- Anybody remember that?
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- Were you on that praise team that day?
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- And i jumped in the car, ran over there.
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- A couple of things.
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- I didn't know if it was going to be open.
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- I didn't know if anybody was going to be there.
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- All i know is a rhema word said go.
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- Went there.
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- They were in a deacons meetings with their leadership talking
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- About whether or not they were going to sell the church.
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- The secretary went in, interrupt them.
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- Brian anderson.
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- Never forget a precious man of god.
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- He said, "pastor, can i help you?"
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- I said, "well, i was over in church and god told me to come
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- Over here and tell you he wants to move our church from
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- Apartment into a home."
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- He said, "could you hold on a minute?"
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- And i said, "yes, sir."
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- And he -- about
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- 20 minutes and they came back, and he said,
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- "how's thanksgiving?"
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- I said, "for what?"
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- He said, "you think y'all can move in thanksgiving?"
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- I said, "that ain't going to be no problem."
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- Then he said, "well, hold on a minute."
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- And he went back, and he came back and he said, "do you have
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- Your financing together?"
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- I'm like, "no, won't nobody give us no money."
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- I said, "but god will pay the bill.
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- We'll--you'll get paid."
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- And somebody said, "oh, you ain't going to get it."
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- But see, god sent me over there.
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- God got to take care of this.
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- You follow what i'm saying?
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- He went back in there. they got to talking.
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- They said, "would you be interested
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- In owner's financing?"
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- I'm like, "you got a deal."
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- And i looked at him, shook his hand.
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- I say, "i pay my bills."
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- I said, "we'll pay it off."
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- We paid it off in record time.
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- And i went back over, he says, "well, you can move
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- Over thanksgiving."
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- So i went back to the church.
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- Half of -- they were still singing.
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- So when i got back, they were like, "god, all right--" it was
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- A rhema word that caused that broke--breakthrough.
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- It wasn't 'cause i memorized all the books of the bible.
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- It was a rhema word that caused that breakthrough.
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- And just like god caused that breakthrough for world changers,
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- He is ready to cause a breakthrough for every last one
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- Of you but you got to hear a rhema word spoken.
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- That has nothing to do with discernment that i'm talking
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- About today, but it has something to do with what god is
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- Getting ready to do in your life.
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- Somebody shout in this place.
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- Somebody shout.
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- I'm telling you god is getting ready to do something
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- Supernatural, outstanding.
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- He's getting ready to break you out.
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- He's getting ready to break you through.
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- He's getting ready to break you forward.
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- Somebody shout.
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- Somebody, whoo.
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- Now, hebrews chapter 12 and 6 in the king james.
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- A lot of that got to do with god's chastening.
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- He's trying to get you to a place, he's trying to get you to
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- A place where this appointment is going to take place, and it
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- Requires chastening.
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- And verse 6 says for whom the lord loveth he chasteneth, whom
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- The lord loveth he corrects, whom the lord loveth he directs.
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- So chastening is an act of god's love.
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- Now, it has in there scourges or punish every son.
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- I keep bumping into stuff about some guy named st. augustine
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- Came in and added some word to this verse of scripture.
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- I don't know if it's true or not, but i can definitely prove
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- That that's not--that and it should have been a period not
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- And, and i'll show you why in just a moment.
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- I mean, it would be clear.
- 00:16:24.719 --> 00:16:26.120
- "there go pastor changing the bible again."
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- I ain't changing the bible.
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- I know god, and i know god in this new testament doesn't
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- Punish his children.
- 00:16:33.094 --> 00:16:38.466
- The purpose of the chastening of the lord is to correct, direct,
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- Refine, and, watch this word, prune.
- 00:16:43.471 --> 00:16:49.777
- Every christian as a branch will be pruned.
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- There's pruning designed for saved folk.
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- It is a means of showing us our faults and our weaknesses so
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- That we can grow and mature and become more dependent upon god
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- And like christ.
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- Quickly look at proverbs 3:11 and 12.
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- I want to ease into this because i sense that the
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- Barrier-breaking god is going to visit your house.
- 00:17:26.948 --> 00:17:33.454
- My god, i felt that almost--[speaking in tongues]
- 00:17:33.454 --> 00:17:36.858
- That thing will make you pull your wig off and
- 00:17:36.858 --> 00:17:38.893
- Just do it like that.
- 00:17:38.893 --> 00:17:40.661
- I'm telling you the--[speaking in tongues]
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- The barrier-breaking god is about to visit your situation.
- 00:17:45.800 --> 00:17:51.305
- He's about to visit your circumstances.
- 00:17:51.305 --> 00:17:53.674
- He's about to visit your relationships.
- 00:17:53.674 --> 00:17:58.713
- I think this might be the first message i just fall out on.
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- I'm just--i sense that we're not here by mistake, that it's a
- 00:18:04.552 --> 00:18:13.594
- Time--there's a set time, and we're approaching that set time.
- 00:18:13.594 --> 00:18:21.502
- And taffi said something last week.
- 00:18:22.403 --> 00:18:24.172
- It's not going to be by might, not going to be by our power,
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- But it's going to be by the holy ghost.
- 00:18:28.109 --> 00:18:32.880
- Verse 11 says, "my son, despise not the chastening of the lord,
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- Neither be weary of his correction."
- 00:18:39.954 --> 00:18:44.258
- You're almost there.
- 00:18:44.258 --> 00:18:45.593
- Don't get weary of his correction.
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- "for whom the lord loveth," what?
- 00:18:46.928 --> 00:18:50.164
- He corrects.
- 00:18:50.164 --> 00:18:51.499
- So this correcting, this chastening is an act of love.
- 00:18:51.499 --> 00:18:54.468
- "even as a father the son in whom he delighteth."
- 00:18:54.468 --> 00:19:01.075
- So god chastens in many ways, including through the word,
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- Through circumstances there are corrections and directions,
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- Through other believers.
- 00:19:12.653 --> 00:19:16.424
- Sometimes he allows trials and difficulties to shape us and
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- Mold us into the people that he want us to be.
- 00:19:20.962 --> 00:19:26.901
- See, before there's an outside activity, there's got to be an
- 00:19:26.901 --> 00:19:30.171
- Inside activity where your character is concerned because
- 00:19:30.171 --> 00:19:33.608
- If we don't get your character right you can't go no further
- 00:19:33.608 --> 00:19:36.344
- Than your character.
- 00:19:36.344 --> 00:19:39.614
- So god will have to deal with you on the inside.
- 00:19:39.614 --> 00:19:41.849
- Deal with that lying spirit.
- 00:19:41.849 --> 00:19:45.720
- Don't get me to tell no lies in here this morning.
- 00:19:45.786 --> 00:19:47.888
- I don't know what you're dealing with, but he'll deal inside
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- First and that will work on the outside.
- 00:19:50.124 --> 00:19:54.762
- Other times he may use the words of a trusted friend or a mentor
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- To add guidance.
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- There are a couple examples that i never--i've read them but
- 00:20:04.605 --> 00:20:08.509
- Didn't recognize it in context.
- 00:20:08.509 --> 00:20:10.678
- This first example in 1 corinthians 11:30 through 32 in
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- The king james, 1 corinthians 11, verse 30 through 32 we see
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- How god disciplined the church of corinth for their abuse of
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- The lord's supper.
- 00:20:24.692 --> 00:20:26.761
- They didn't understand it, they didn't know what to do with it,
- 00:20:26.761 --> 00:20:30.931
- And there's a chastening that goes on.
- 00:20:30.931 --> 00:20:32.767
- He says for this cause of not keeping in remembrance the
- 00:20:32.767 --> 00:20:38.906
- Things that the scripture says about this communion and because
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- They wouldn't take it because of fear, he says many are weak and
- 00:20:42.943 --> 00:20:45.946
- Many are sick among you and many die early deaths not because
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- They took communion in sin but they didn't remember what jesus
- 00:20:50.017 --> 00:20:53.387
- Had already done for that.
- 00:20:53.387 --> 00:20:55.756
- He says for if we would judge ourselves in this matter of
- 00:20:55.756 --> 00:20:58.993
- Communion we should not be judged.
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- But watch this.
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- But when we are judged--if that happens and we are judged, he
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- Says we are chastened of the lord.
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- That's why this is happening.
- 00:21:08.969 --> 00:21:11.238
- You're chastened of the lord.
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- Why?
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- That we should not be condemned with the world.
- 00:21:13.908 --> 00:21:17.745
- Notice here chastening was done as an act of love to stop
- 00:21:17.745 --> 00:21:21.982
- Condemnation, you know, that the world has to go through.
- 00:21:21.982 --> 00:21:25.586
- He did that as an act of love.
- 00:21:25.586 --> 00:21:27.221
- And then in revelations 3 and 19--you start studying this and
- 00:21:27.221 --> 00:21:32.393
- You see it everywhere, and it's just amazing
- 00:21:32.393 --> 00:21:34.061
- That it's just not taught a lot.
- 00:21:34.061 --> 00:21:35.730
- We have to understand this so we can, you know, yield to where
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- God's trying to take us.
- 00:21:39.667 --> 00:21:41.736
- Revelation 3:19 says, "as many as i love," what?
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- I rebuke and what?
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- Chasten.
- 00:21:47.875 --> 00:21:49.210
- So he said be zealous therefore and repent, change your mind.
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- So he says, "i am going--i'm rebuking and i'm chastening you
- 00:21:53.214 --> 00:21:57.518
- To get you to change your mind."
- 00:21:57.518 --> 00:21:58.986
- That's what repent means.
- 00:21:58.986 --> 00:22:00.321
- Repent doesn't mean i'm sorry, repent means literally the
- 00:22:00.321 --> 00:22:03.557
- Change of mind.
- 00:22:03.557 --> 00:22:05.426
- And so when you examine things that you go through, when you're
- 00:22:05.426 --> 00:22:08.963
- Under correction or chastening of the lord, maybe god's trying
- 00:22:08.963 --> 00:22:14.135
- To get you to change your mind about some things.
- 00:22:14.135 --> 00:22:17.238
- So now let's deal with this issue of the chastisement of the
- 00:22:17.238 --> 00:22:21.075
- Lord versus punishment.
- 00:22:21.075 --> 00:22:24.345
- Is it punishment?
- 00:22:24.345 --> 00:22:26.647
- 'cause i--you know, if it's punishment, then all i'm doing
- 00:22:26.647 --> 00:22:29.917
- Is, you know, releasing fear into the atmosphere.
- 00:22:29.917 --> 00:22:33.821
- "get ready.
- 00:22:33.821 --> 00:22:35.156
- God's going to punish you."
- 00:22:35.156 --> 00:22:36.490
- But the chastisement of the lord is not the same as punishment.
- 00:22:36.490 --> 00:22:42.296
- Punishment is a consequence for wrongdoing, whereas chastening
- 00:22:42.296 --> 00:22:47.234
- Is a form of discipline that is intended to correct and refine.
- 00:22:47.234 --> 00:22:54.074
- God's not punishing you for your wrongdoing.
- 00:22:54.074 --> 00:22:57.578
- Somebody says, "well, it kind of sounds like it."
- 00:22:57.578 --> 00:22:59.547
- No, no, no.
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- Jesus took your punishment.
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- Jesus was punished for you so you
- 00:23:02.883 --> 00:23:04.385
- Wouldn't have to be punished.
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- I'll show you that in a moment.
- 00:23:05.886 --> 00:23:07.221
- Chastening is a form of discipline or correction that's
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- Intended to cause refinement.
- 00:23:10.124 --> 00:23:12.660
- God does not punish his children but rather seeks to guide them
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- Towards total dependence on him.
- 00:23:17.698 --> 00:23:21.435
- And like i said, besides all that jesus was
- 00:23:21.435 --> 00:23:24.205
- Already punished in our place.
- 00:23:24.205 --> 00:23:26.707
- Look at this; isaiah 53, verse 4 and 5 in the king james.
- 00:23:26.707 --> 00:23:31.145
- Jesus was already punished in our place.
- 00:23:31.145 --> 00:23:34.615
- That was jesus's job.
- 00:23:34.615 --> 00:23:35.950
- Jesus took our punishment so we don't have to be punished.
- 00:23:35.950 --> 00:23:39.753
- Now, what does it sound like if he took our punishment so we
- 00:23:39.753 --> 00:23:42.556
- Don't have to be punished and then you're
- 00:23:42.556 --> 00:23:44.124
- Still expecting to be punished?
- 00:23:44.124 --> 00:23:45.793
- So now you got to change your view and your perspective of how
- 00:23:45.793 --> 00:23:48.395
- You're looking at these things that are happening to you.
- 00:23:48.395 --> 00:23:50.731
- "this is not punishment.
- 00:23:50.731 --> 00:23:52.066
- God is trying to guide me.
- 00:23:52.066 --> 00:23:53.467
- God's trying to correct me.
- 00:23:53.467 --> 00:23:54.802
- God's trying to show me some things."
- 00:23:54.802 --> 00:23:56.704
- He said in verse 4, "surely he hath borne our griefs, and
- 00:23:56.704 --> 00:24:01.208
- Carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken,
- 00:24:01.208 --> 00:24:03.777
- Smitten of god, and afflicted.
- 00:24:03.777 --> 00:24:06.547
- But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised
- 00:24:06.547 --> 00:24:10.184
- For our inequities: the chastisement of our peace was
- 00:24:10.184 --> 00:24:14.221
- Upon him; and with his stripes we are healed."
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