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Robert Jeffress - Good Grace Spiritual Surgery (Part 2)

April 30, 2026 | 27:29

Robert Jeffress - Good Grace Spiritual Surgery (Part 2)
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Dr. Robert Jeffress | Robert Jeffress - Good Grace Spiritual Surgery (Part 2) | April 30, 2026
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  • ♪ music ♪
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  • From the pulpit
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  • Of the first baptist church of dallas, texas,
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  • This is "pathway to victory" with dr. robert jeffress.
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  • Hi, i'm robert jeffress,
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  • And welcome again to "pathway to victory."
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  • When a fellow christian
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  • Is caught up in a serious sin and refuses to repent,
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  • What should the church do?
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  • The bible doesn't leave us guessing.
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  • In fact, the bible lays out
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  • A very specific step-by-step process for how to handle it.
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  • Today, we're going to walk through that biblical blueprint
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  • And discover what good grace spiritual surgery
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  • Actually looks like in practice.
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  • My message is titled: "good grace spiritual surgery."
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  • On today's edition of "pathway to victory."
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  • ♪ music ♪
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  • ♪ there is a blood ♪
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  • ♪ that sights the blind ♪
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  • ♪ and heals the sick ♪
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  • ♪ and the lonely find ♪
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  • ♪ it has the power to free the bound ♪
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  • ♪ as chains they fall ♪
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  • ♪ upon the ground ♪
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  • ♪ so pour it out ♪
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  • ♪ to cleanse my soul ♪
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  • ♪ let his liquid glory flow ♪
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  • ♪ because it lives ♪
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  • ♪ to make me whole ♪
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  • ♪ i owe my life ♪
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  • ♪ i owe my soul ♪
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  • ♪ so i come to tell you he saves ♪
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  • ♪ to shout and to proclaim ♪
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  • ♪ and he's coming back for you ♪
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  • ♪ can wash away my sins ♪
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  • ♪ nothing but his blood ♪
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  • ♪ his cleansing blood ♪
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  • ♪ music ♪
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  • ♪ there is a grave ♪
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  • ♪ that tried to hide ♪
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  • ♪ this precious blood ♪
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  • ♪ that gave me life ♪
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  • ♪ but in three days he breathed again ♪
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  • ♪ and rose to stand ♪
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  • ♪ in my defense ♪
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  • ♪ so i come to tell you he's alive ♪
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  • ♪ jesus is alive ♪
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  • ♪ to shout and to proclaim ♪
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  • ♪ he's coming back ♪
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  • ♪ he's coming back for you ♪
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  • ♪ he's coming back, he's coming back ♪
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  • ♪ in the twinkle of an eye ♪
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  • ♪ he's coming back for you ♪
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  • ♪ when the trumpet sounds he's coming ♪
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  • ♪ for you ♪
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  • (congregation applauds)
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  • Some christians use grace
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  • Others pile on so many rules,
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  • They have no grace for themselves or others.
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  • In "grace gone wild,"
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  • Dr. robert jeffress shows you
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  • What biblical grace actually looks like
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  • And how practicing it leads to true freedom and lasting joy.
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  • ♪ music ♪
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  • We have a choice
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  • When we come upon those sparks of controversy.
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  • We can take our bucket of water
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  • And extinguish that spark by what we say.
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  • You know, "i doubt that's true,"
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  • Or, "have you checked with the person about it personally?"
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  • Or, "maybe that's not the whole story."
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  • We can douse it with water
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  • Or we can pour a bucket of gasoline on that spark
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  • And fuel that flame
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  • Until it destroys everything and everyone.
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  • We are called as a church,
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  • As individual members of the body of christ,
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  • To be fire extinguishers
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  • Wherever we find those sparks going around.
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  • And when somebody refuses to do that,
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  • When somebody is continually fueling the flame
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  • Of controversy in the church,
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  • We cannot afford to leave that alone.
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  • It has to be dealt with.
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  • In romans 16, verse 17, paul said:
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  • "now i urge you, brothers and sisters,
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  • "keep your eye on those who cause dissensions and hindrances
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  • "contrary to the teaching which you have learned,
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  • "and turn away from them."
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  • In a previous church, we had a leader
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  • Who was always fueling the flame of controversy.
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  • He was making false statements
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  • About the finances of the church.
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  • He was constantly criticizing staff members.
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  • And finally the leaders of our church met
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  • And said, "we can't put up with this any longer.
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  • "it is hurting our church."
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  • And they had the audacity, the boldness, the courage
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  • To remove this person from their place of leadership.
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  • And the controversy disappeared.
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  • You think that's drastic?
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  • Listen again to what the word of god says.
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  • Titus 3: 10 and 11: "reject a divisive person
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  • "after a first and second warning."
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  • "oh, pastor, we're supposed to love these people.
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  • "we're supposed to welcome them."
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  • No, that's not what the word of god says.
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  • You reject them after a first and second warning.
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  • "knowing that such a person has deviated from what is right
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  • "and is sinning, being self-condemned."
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  • There are some instances in which a sin
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  • Is so grievous against a congregation
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  • That it threatens the moral, doctrinal,
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  • Or emotional health of that congregation.
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  • It has to be dealt with.
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  • Well, how do you do that?
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  • How do you engage in that kind of discipline?
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  • That's what jesus is talking about
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  • In the first portion of matthew chapter 18.
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  • Remember, i call this spiritual surgery.
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  • Paul said, "if you see somebody caught in a sin,
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  • "let those of you who are spiritual restore."
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  • Katartizo, a word that means to mend a broken bone.
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  • You've got to do this very, very carefully
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  • So you don't lose the patient
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  • But also you don't lose the congregation in the process.
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  • So jesus outlines the steps for doing that.
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  • Look at verse 15.
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  • Step number one: if you see a person involved
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  • In this kind of sin, talk with the person privately.
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  • Here's the difference between condemnation and restoration.
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  • If you really just want to condemn a person
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  • And make yourself feel better,
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  • You're just interested in condemning people,
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  • You'll deal as publicly as possible
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  • With that sinning christian.
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  • But if your real goal is restoration,
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  • Then you'll deal as privately as possible with them.
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  • And that's why jesus said step 1, verse 15:
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  • "if your brother sins,
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  • "go and show him his fault in private.
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  • "if he listens to you, you've won your brother."
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  • That's the best outcome.
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  • Now, this isn't about somebody who's sinned against you.
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  • You're supposed to forgive them.
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  • No, this is some other kind of sin you see
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  • That's destroying them or harming the church.
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  • Go talk to them in private.
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  • Don't tell anybody else about it.
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  • And the very best outcome is?
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  • They say, "you know, you're right and i'm going to change."
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  • That's what you hope for is the outcome.
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  • I need to stop here and just address this common fallacy.
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  • I even saw it in the chat room between services,
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  • People watching our online service.
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  • Well, "what about matthew 7:
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  • "'judge not lest you be judged'"?
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  • Jesus was not saying you never judge anybody
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  • For any reason at all.
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  • I could quote you verse after verse
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  • Where the bible says we are to judge.
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  • We are to make discerning decisions.
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  • We're to inspect other people's fruit.
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  • By their fruits, you shall know them.
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  • The judgment jesus is talking about here
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  • Is the pharisaical kind of judgment.
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  • The pharisees loved to condemn people
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  • And say, "this person is beyond redemption."
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  • We're never to say that.
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  • Only god can perform that kind of judgment.
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  • Let me prove to you, though,
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  • The fact that jesus says we are to judge.
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  • Look at verse 5 of matthew 7.
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  • "you hypocrite, first, take the log out of your own eye
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  • "and then you'll be able to see clearly
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  • "to take the speck out of your brother's eye."
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  • Jesus said, "i'm not against
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  • "trying to take the speck out of somebody's eye,
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  • "but just take the log out of your own eye
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  • "before you try that."
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  • Let me illustrate this.
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  • Have you ever gotten something in your eye
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  • And you just couldn't get it out?
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  • I mean, your eye waters, and it's just a mess.
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  • And all you can think about is:
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  • "how am i going to get this out?"
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  • Let's just imagine you wear contacts,
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  • You get a contact lens stuck in your eye,
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  • And you can't get it out.
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  • And it's just bothering you
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  • And it's getting worse and worse.
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  • So finally, you break down, you go to the ophthalmologist,
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  • The nurse puts you in the chair
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  • And says, "the doctor will be with you in a moment."
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  • So you lean back waiting for the doctor to come in.
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  • He comes in and says, "what is the problem?"
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  • And you notice coming out of his eye is a two by four.
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  • He says, "now let me see here
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  • "to see if i can get this out of here."
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  • Would you want that doctor working on your eye?
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  • I don't think so.
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  • You'd want to be sure that two by four got out of his eye
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  • So he could see clearly to operate on your eye.
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  • And that's exactly what jesus is saying in matthew 7.
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  • It's a merciful thing
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  • To help somebody remove the speck from their eye.
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  • We ought to do that.
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  • But we've got to deal with the log, the sin in our own life
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  • Before we can see clearly to help somebody else.
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  • Go talk privately.
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  • If he responds, you've won a brother.
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  • Well, what if he doesn't respond?
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  • Well, then go to step 2, jesus said, verse 16:
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  • "take a small group with you
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  • "when you talk to the person."
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  • Look at verse 16.
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  • "but if he does not listen to you,
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  • "take one or two with you so that,"
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  • And then he quotes from the old testament,
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  • "so that on the testimony of two or three witnesses,
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  • "every matter may be confirmed."
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  • Now, jesus isn't saying:
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  • Find two or three eyewitnesses to the sin
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  • This person has committed.
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  • That's almost impossible.
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  • There are usually no eyewitnesses to sin.
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  • The reason jesus says take two or three with you,
  • 00:12:32.408 --> 00:12:36.212
  • Is that, a, it will convince the sinner
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  • How serious this sin is,
  • 00:12:39.281 --> 00:12:40.883
  • That if three people from the church
  • 00:12:40.883 --> 00:12:42.751
  • Want to come talk to you,
  • 00:12:42.751 --> 00:12:44.186
  • This is a pretty serious matter.
  • 00:12:44.186 --> 00:12:46.555
  • But also it means that there are
  • 00:12:46.555 --> 00:12:48.123
  • Two or three witnesses there
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  • Who can respond to the church if necessary
  • 00:12:49.558 --> 00:12:52.561
  • On what the sinner's attitude was.
  • 00:12:52.561 --> 00:12:54.964
  • Was he repentant or not repentant?
  • 00:12:54.964 --> 00:12:58.434
  • Again, when this happens, the goal is restoration.
  • 00:12:58.434 --> 00:13:01.971
  • Now, i've been involved in this process many times,
  • 00:13:01.971 --> 00:13:05.908
  • Two or three of us talking
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  • With a christian who's committing a sin
  • 00:13:07.576 --> 00:13:10.212
  • That needs to be corrected.
  • 00:13:10.212 --> 00:13:13.115
  • And if you're going to do spiritual surgery,
  • 00:13:13.115 --> 00:13:16.418
  • It's a very delicate surgery.
  • 00:13:16.418 --> 00:13:18.354
  • There's got to be precision.
  • 00:13:18.354 --> 00:13:20.556
  • I've met with the people
  • 00:13:20.556 --> 00:13:22.157
  • Who were going to go confront with the sinner,
  • 00:13:22.157 --> 00:13:23.726
  • And we wrote down who was going to say what.
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  • In what order.
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  • How are we going to respond if he says this?
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  • Or what if he says that?
  • 00:13:31.734 --> 00:13:34.436
  • You know, when you're doing surgery,
  • 00:13:35.204 --> 00:13:36.939
  • You want to use a scalpel, not a pickaxe.
  • 00:13:36.939 --> 00:13:39.675
  • It's very delicate what you're doing.
  • 00:13:39.675 --> 00:13:41.911
  • And so it needs to be done carefully with thought,
  • 00:13:41.911 --> 00:13:44.914
  • And always remembering: the goal is restoration.
  • 00:13:44.914 --> 00:13:47.516
  • To bring him or her to the point
  • 00:13:47.516 --> 00:13:49.418
  • Where they're willing to say, "you know, you're right,
  • 00:13:49.418 --> 00:13:52.221
  • "and, today, i'm repenting of that sin.
  • 00:13:52.221 --> 00:13:54.890
  • "i'm asking for the church's forgiveness.
  • 00:13:54.890 --> 00:13:57.359
  • "i'm ready to start living differently."
  • 00:13:57.359 --> 00:13:59.929
  • And, again, if a person responds, great,
  • 00:13:59.929 --> 00:14:02.564
  • You've won a brother.
  • 00:14:02.564 --> 00:14:04.667
  • But what if they don't respond?
  • 00:14:04.667 --> 00:14:06.168
  • What if they bow up and say:
  • 00:14:06.168 --> 00:14:07.503
  • "i don't have to listen to you.
  • 00:14:07.503 --> 00:14:09.305
  • "i'm going to continue living however i want to live."
  • 00:14:09.305 --> 00:14:12.041
  • What do you do then?
  • 00:14:12.041 --> 00:14:13.175
  • Jesus gives us step 3:
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  • Report the situation to the congregation.
  • 00:14:15.210 --> 00:14:18.280
  • Look at verse 17.
  • 00:14:18.280 --> 00:14:19.748
  • "if he," that is the unrepentant believer,
  • 00:14:19.748 --> 00:14:22.918
  • "refuses to listen to them," that group of two or three,
  • 00:14:22.918 --> 00:14:27.589
  • "then you tell it to the church."
  • 00:14:27.589 --> 00:14:32.161
  • Why would you tell it to the church?
  • 00:14:32.962 --> 00:14:35.731
  • It's not to humiliate the sinner,
  • 00:14:35.731 --> 00:14:38.200
  • It's to, first of all, let him know:
  • 00:14:38.200 --> 00:14:39.702
  • "this is such a serious thing,
  • 00:14:39.702 --> 00:14:41.670
  • "we're going to have to report this to the church."
  • 00:14:41.670 --> 00:14:44.306
  • And it's also to gather a group of more people
  • 00:14:44.306 --> 00:14:46.542
  • To pray for the sinner
  • 00:14:46.542 --> 00:14:48.043
  • To restore him to a right relationship with god.
  • 00:14:48.043 --> 00:14:51.680
  • Now, i need to point out here
  • 00:14:51.680 --> 00:14:53.182
  • That jesus' directions here are very general.
  • 00:14:53.182 --> 00:14:57.286
  • They're not precise.
  • 00:14:57.286 --> 00:14:59.788
  • We don't know exactly what he means:
  • 00:14:59.788 --> 00:15:02.257
  • "tell it to the church."
  • 00:15:02.257 --> 00:15:03.492
  • I think jesus is giving us a lot of leeway
  • 00:15:03.492 --> 00:15:06.395
  • In how to do this according to our individual situation.
  • 00:15:06.395 --> 00:15:11.667
  • You know, i doubt most of the time
  • 00:15:12.434 --> 00:15:15.237
  • We would want to announce
  • 00:15:15.237 --> 00:15:16.472
  • Somebody's sin to the whole church.
  • 00:15:16.472 --> 00:15:18.874
  • Can you see our video announcements ending with:
  • 00:15:18.874 --> 00:15:21.076
  • "and now a list of sinning church members for this week"?
  • 00:15:21.076 --> 00:15:25.447
  • It'd have high attendance, i'm sure.
  • 00:15:25.447 --> 00:15:27.316
  • Every sunday, people would want to come and see that.
  • 00:15:27.316 --> 00:15:30.953
  • But i think by telling it to the church,
  • 00:15:31.820 --> 00:15:33.622
  • It could mean to a group of leaders in the church,
  • 00:15:33.622 --> 00:15:36.558
  • To the deacons, to the staff.
  • 00:15:36.558 --> 00:15:39.328
  • But jesus gives us some leeway.
  • 00:15:39.328 --> 00:15:40.963
  • But, again, the goal is restoration here.
  • 00:15:40.963 --> 00:15:44.600
  • Well, what if even after that a person doesn't repent?
  • 00:15:44.600 --> 00:15:48.637
  • Then and only then do you go
  • 00:15:48.637 --> 00:15:50.305
  • To the most drastic step, step 4:
  • 00:15:50.305 --> 00:15:53.008
  • If necessary, remove the person from the congregation.
  • 00:15:53.008 --> 00:15:58.480
  • Again, i heard somebody in the chat room,
  • 00:15:59.348 --> 00:16:00.816
  • Read somebody in the chat room:
  • 00:16:00.816 --> 00:16:02.084
  • "oh, i can't believe the pastor talked about
  • 00:16:02.084 --> 00:16:04.053
  • "removing people from the church!
  • 00:16:04.053 --> 00:16:06.188
  • "we're supposed to be a church
  • 00:16:06.188 --> 00:16:07.322
  • "of love and acceptance of sinners!"
  • 00:16:07.322 --> 00:16:10.192
  • Oh yes, everybody's welcome to come.
  • 00:16:10.192 --> 00:16:12.494
  • All sinners are welcome to come.
  • 00:16:12.494 --> 00:16:14.096
  • All unbelievers are welcome to come.
  • 00:16:14.096 --> 00:16:16.832
  • But the one who's talking about removing people
  • 00:16:16.832 --> 00:16:18.967
  • From the congregation's not robert jeffress,
  • 00:16:18.967 --> 00:16:21.203
  • It's jesus christ.
  • 00:16:21.203 --> 00:16:22.838
  • This is what he said, look at verse 17.
  • 00:16:22.838 --> 00:16:25.140
  • "if he refuses to listen even to the church,
  • 00:16:25.140 --> 00:16:28.710
  • "let him be to you as a gentile and a tax collector."
  • 00:16:28.710 --> 00:16:32.881
  • That was an idiom for turning him out of the congregation.
  • 00:16:32.881 --> 00:16:37.052
  • It's what paul said in 1 corinthians 5:
  • 00:16:37.052 --> 00:16:39.421
  • "this one who refuses to repent of his sexual sin
  • 00:16:39.421 --> 00:16:42.825
  • "and is ruining the reputation of your church?
  • 00:16:42.825 --> 00:16:45.060
  • "you need to turn him out of the church
  • 00:16:45.060 --> 00:16:46.462
  • "so he understands how serious the sin is."
  • 00:16:46.462 --> 00:16:50.466
  • And, again, the purpose
  • 00:16:50.466 --> 00:16:51.700
  • Of turning somebody out of the church
  • 00:16:51.700 --> 00:16:53.769
  • Is not out of hatred for the person.
  • 00:16:53.769 --> 00:16:55.737
  • It's out of love.
  • 00:16:55.737 --> 00:16:57.306
  • It's with the hope that, number one,
  • 00:16:57.306 --> 00:16:58.974
  • Such a drastic action will cause that person
  • 00:16:58.974 --> 00:17:01.777
  • To realize what he's doing and repent.
  • 00:17:01.777 --> 00:17:04.947
  • But, secondly, it's to protect
  • 00:17:04.947 --> 00:17:06.582
  • The moral and spiritual health of the congregation.
  • 00:17:06.582 --> 00:17:10.552
  • It's going to infect the entire congregation
  • 00:17:10.552 --> 00:17:13.088
  • If it doesn't get dealt with.
  • 00:17:13.088 --> 00:17:15.858
  • You know, these days we're talking a lot about antibodies,
  • 00:17:15.858 --> 00:17:20.095
  • The need for our bodies to have antibodies
  • 00:17:20.095 --> 00:17:22.798
  • To protect ourself against disease.
  • 00:17:22.798 --> 00:17:26.034
  • Correcting sinning christians,
  • 00:17:26.034 --> 00:17:28.637
  • Even to the point of removing them from the church,
  • 00:17:28.637 --> 00:17:32.808
  • Is a way to keep our antibodies strong.
  • 00:17:32.808 --> 00:17:35.210
  • It produces antibodies,
  • 00:17:35.210 --> 00:17:36.645
  • It keeps the whole body from being infected
  • 00:17:36.645 --> 00:17:39.448
  • When we engage in church discipline.
  • 00:17:39.448 --> 00:17:41.750
  • If we don't follow jesus' instructions here,
  • 00:17:41.750 --> 00:17:45.287
  • We are at risk of infecting the entire body of believers.
  • 00:17:45.287 --> 00:17:50.058
  • That's what he's saying here.
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  • The question, and i want to make this point
  • 00:17:53.762 --> 00:17:58.133
  • Before i wrap up
  • 00:17:58.133 --> 00:17:59.935
  • 'cause i think it's a point that needs to be made.
  • 00:17:59.935 --> 00:18:03.205
  • I heard somebody point out even this week
  • 00:18:03.205 --> 00:18:06.175
  • That all of these steps for correction,
  • 00:18:06.175 --> 00:18:08.443
  • Steps 1, 2, 3, and 4,
  • 00:18:08.443 --> 00:18:11.680
  • All take place within the local church.
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  • The local church
  • 00:18:17.286 --> 00:18:18.854
  • Is the highest ecclesiastical authority there is on earth.
  • 00:18:18.854 --> 00:18:23.692
  • There is no higher authority.
  • 00:18:24.326 --> 00:18:28.263
  • God said the way you deal with sinning christians
  • 00:18:28.263 --> 00:18:31.233
  • Who need to be restored
  • 00:18:31.233 --> 00:18:32.701
  • Is within the confines of a local church.
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  • Nothing larger than that.
  • 00:18:36.738 --> 00:18:38.874
  • And the reason i say that
  • 00:18:38.874 --> 00:18:40.242
  • Is one of the disturbing trends i see
  • 00:18:40.242 --> 00:18:42.978
  • In our southern baptist convention
  • 00:18:42.978 --> 00:18:45.314
  • Is to go beyond that
  • 00:18:45.314 --> 00:18:48.350
  • And to create a denominational hierarchy
  • 00:18:48.350 --> 00:18:51.253
  • And to have churches report to this hierarchy.
  • 00:18:51.253 --> 00:18:54.056
  • And if a local church doesn't deal with a sin,
  • 00:18:54.056 --> 00:18:56.758
  • To let the denomination deal with it.
  • 00:18:56.758 --> 00:18:59.127
  • That is totally antithetical to what the word of god says.
  • 00:18:59.127 --> 00:19:03.332
  • There is no biblical basis for any organization
  • 00:19:03.332 --> 00:19:06.935
  • That is more authoritative than the local church.
  • 00:19:06.935 --> 00:19:11.840
  • Every local church is responsible
  • 00:19:11.840 --> 00:19:15.043
  • For dealing with the sin within its own congregation.
  • 00:19:15.043 --> 00:19:20.015
  • Well, does it really work?
  • 00:19:20.015 --> 00:19:22.150
  • Does this whole idea of church discipline really work?
  • 00:19:22.150 --> 00:19:26.388
  • You know, i have found that most of the people
  • 00:19:26.388 --> 00:19:28.890
  • In the christian world
  • 00:19:28.890 --> 00:19:30.859
  • Who preach about or write articles or books
  • 00:19:30.859 --> 00:19:34.463
  • About church discipline
  • 00:19:34.463 --> 00:19:35.631
  • Are those who've never done it before.
  • 00:19:35.631 --> 00:19:37.766
  • Full disclosure here: in 40 years of pastoring,
  • 00:19:38.700 --> 00:19:42.671
  • I have gone through step 1, step 2, step 3,
  • 00:19:42.671 --> 00:19:47.943
  • Telling it to the church,
  • 00:19:48.510 --> 00:19:49.778
  • Usually a smaller subset of the church.
  • 00:19:49.778 --> 00:19:53.015
  • I've never engaged in step 4
  • 00:19:53.015 --> 00:19:55.350
  • Of actually turning somebody out from the church.
  • 00:19:55.350 --> 00:19:58.687
  • I have refused to allow certain people
  • 00:19:58.687 --> 00:20:01.156
  • To join the church knowing they would cause dissension,
  • 00:20:01.156 --> 00:20:04.326
  • But i've never turned anybody out of the church.
  • 00:20:04.326 --> 00:20:07.996
  • One reason i haven't done it
  • 00:20:07.996 --> 00:20:10.732
  • Is because, in today's culture,
  • 00:20:10.732 --> 00:20:13.101
  • If you get turned out of this church,
  • 00:20:13.101 --> 00:20:14.836
  • All you have to do is walk down the block
  • 00:20:14.836 --> 00:20:16.438
  • And join another church.
  • 00:20:16.438 --> 00:20:18.507
  • In paul's day, there was only one church in every city.
  • 00:20:18.507 --> 00:20:22.010
  • For you to get turned out of a church
  • 00:20:22.010 --> 00:20:23.545
  • Meant it was either be with god's people
  • 00:20:23.545 --> 00:20:25.614
  • Or be with satan's people.
  • 00:20:25.614 --> 00:20:27.182
  • You were either in or out.
  • 00:20:27.182 --> 00:20:29.484
  • It's a little different than it is today.
  • 00:20:29.484 --> 00:20:31.520
  • My experience has been that:
  • 00:20:31.520 --> 00:20:33.455
  • By the time you get to step 2 or 3,
  • 00:20:33.455 --> 00:20:35.557
  • The person voluntarily removes themselves from the church.
  • 00:20:35.557 --> 00:20:40.028
  • Usually, it just takes a small group
  • 00:20:40.028 --> 00:20:42.264
  • Going to an individual and confronting them
  • 00:20:42.264 --> 00:20:44.399
  • To either get them to repent or cause them to leave.
  • 00:20:44.399 --> 00:20:48.170
  • Interestingly, this situation in corinth
  • 00:20:48.170 --> 00:20:51.707
  • Had a positive outcome.
  • 00:20:51.707 --> 00:20:53.642
  • Remember i said in 1 corinthians 5,
  • 00:20:53.642 --> 00:20:55.577
  • Paul chastised them for not dealing with this sinning member
  • 00:20:55.577 --> 00:20:59.047
  • Sleeping with his stepmother?
  • 00:20:59.047 --> 00:21:00.415
  • Well, apparently they got the message,
  • 00:21:00.415 --> 00:21:03.452
  • And they dealt with him.
  • 00:21:03.452 --> 00:21:04.419
  • How do i know that?
  • 00:21:04.419 --> 00:21:05.587
  • Because of paul's words
  • 00:21:05.587 --> 00:21:06.988
  • In 2 corinthians, his second letter, chapter 2,
  • 00:21:06.988 --> 00:21:10.125
  • Beginning with verse 6.
  • 00:21:10.125 --> 00:21:11.693
  • He said, "sufficient for such a person is this punishment
  • 00:21:11.693 --> 00:21:16.264
  • "which was imposed by the majority.
  • 00:21:16.264 --> 00:21:19.000
  • "so that, on the other hand,
  • 00:21:19.000 --> 00:21:20.402
  • "you should rather forgive and comfort him.
  • 00:21:20.402 --> 00:21:22.938
  • "otherwise, such a person
  • 00:21:22.938 --> 00:21:24.406
  • "might become overwhelmed by excessive sorrow.
  • 00:21:24.406 --> 00:21:28.143
  • "therefore, i urge you to reaffirm your love for him."
  • 00:21:28.143 --> 00:21:32.481
  • The church met, they voted this man out of the church.
  • 00:21:32.481 --> 00:21:36.785
  • He repented and wanted to come back.
  • 00:21:36.785 --> 00:21:39.955
  • Some of the people in the corinthian church said,
  • 00:21:39.955 --> 00:21:41.990
  • "no, no, no, no.
  • 00:21:41.990 --> 00:21:43.725
  • "we're not letting you back in.
  • 00:21:43.725 --> 00:21:45.727
  • "we don't want to endanger our church."
  • 00:21:45.727 --> 00:21:47.396
  • Paul said, "that's the wrong response.
  • 00:21:47.396 --> 00:21:49.631
  • "the goal is restoration.
  • 00:21:49.631 --> 00:21:51.533
  • "and if he repents, you need to welcome him back."
  • 00:21:51.533 --> 00:21:56.004
  • That's the goal of church discipline,
  • 00:21:56.004 --> 00:21:58.707
  • The restoration of a sinning christian.
  • 00:21:58.707 --> 00:22:02.077
  • Now, i know this is completely foreign
  • 00:22:02.911 --> 00:22:07.082
  • To our understanding today,
  • 00:22:07.082 --> 00:22:09.718
  • But remember all of this is an illustration
  • 00:22:10.619 --> 00:22:13.688
  • Of how seriously god takes the subject of sin.
  • 00:22:13.688 --> 00:22:18.460
  • Sin is a serious subject to god.
  • 00:22:19.094 --> 00:22:21.263
  • It's serious in your life,
  • 00:22:21.263 --> 00:22:23.198
  • And it's serious in the life of other believers as well.
  • 00:22:23.198 --> 00:22:26.902
  • And the most loving thing you can do
  • 00:22:26.902 --> 00:22:29.571
  • Is to help correct a sinning christian.
  • 00:22:29.571 --> 00:22:32.140
  • And therein is the difference
  • 00:22:32.140 --> 00:22:33.708
  • Between good grace and bad grace.
  • 00:22:33.708 --> 00:22:38.246
  • Bad grace equates correction with condemnation.
  • 00:22:38.246 --> 00:22:42.417
  • Good grace understands
  • 00:22:42.417 --> 00:22:43.885
  • That sometimes the most loving thing
  • 00:22:43.885 --> 00:22:46.021
  • We can do for another christian
  • 00:22:46.021 --> 00:22:48.323
  • Is to confront him about his disobedience.
  • 00:22:48.323 --> 00:22:51.993
  • Bad grace rarely considers the effect
  • 00:22:52.761 --> 00:22:56.131
  • That an individual's sin has on an entire congregation.
  • 00:22:56.131 --> 00:23:00.202
  • But good grace recognizes our responsibility
  • 00:23:00.202 --> 00:23:04.139
  • To protect the moral, the doctrinal,
  • 00:23:04.139 --> 00:23:06.775
  • And the emotional health of the church.
  • 00:23:06.775 --> 00:23:09.811
  • Bad grace uses the live-and-let-live philosophy
  • 00:23:09.811 --> 00:23:13.882
  • As an excuse for ignoring a fellow believer
  • 00:23:13.882 --> 00:23:17.085
  • Who's being held hostage by sin.
  • 00:23:17.085 --> 00:23:20.188
  • Good grace recognizes that we have a responsibility
  • 00:23:20.188 --> 00:23:24.392
  • To rescue other believers who have been overtaken by sin.
  • 00:23:24.392 --> 00:23:29.164
  • As james says, "he who turns a sinner
  • 00:23:29.965 --> 00:23:33.602
  • "from the error of his ways
  • 00:23:33.602 --> 00:23:36.538
  • "saves his soul from death
  • 00:23:36.538 --> 00:23:39.341
  • "and covers a multitude of sins."
  • 00:23:39.341 --> 00:23:43.478
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  • 00:23:43.812 --> 00:23:47.682
  • Sometimes god's grace requires confrontation.
  • 00:23:48.617 --> 00:23:51.820
  • And when we follow the bible's blueprint
  • 00:23:51.820 --> 00:23:54.422
  • For disciplining another christian,
  • 00:23:54.422 --> 00:23:56.658
  • We can have confidence that we're exercising
  • 00:23:56.658 --> 00:23:59.261
  • Our god-given right and our god-given responsibility.
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  • Now, in closing today, i want to affirm the value
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  • Of your partnership with "pathway to victory."
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  • In these challenging and divisive times,
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  • When our nation seems to be overcome by darkness,
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  • There's nothing more important
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  • Than providing clear, life-changing truth about god
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  • And his amazing grace.
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  • And your support makes it possible for us
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  • To broadcast these programs
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  • Across the country and around the world.
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  • So thank you for partnering with us
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  • To pierce the darkness with the light of god's word.
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  • Now, please stay right there.
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  • I'll be back with more in just a moment.
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  • The bible tells us we're saved by grace.
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  • But do you allow yourself to receive grace?
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  • Do you practice grace?
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  • Do you abuse god's grace?
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  • In "grace gone wild,"
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  • Dr. robert jeffress clears up the confusion
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  • And shows you how grace leads to joy, not guilt.
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  • Christians fall into one of two traps
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  • When it comes to grace.
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  • Some believe grace means there are no boundaries in living.
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  • Others pile on so many rules
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  • That christianity feels like a burden instead of a blessing.
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  • In my book, "grace gone wild,"
  • 00:25:12.033 --> 00:25:13.602
  • I'll show you that true grace leads to a deeper,
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  • More joy-filled relationship with god.
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  • Discover how understanding grace
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  • Can transform your marriage, your relationships,
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  • And every decision you make.
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  • Request your copy of "grace gone wild"
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  • When you give a generous gift to "pathway to victory."
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  • And when your ministry gift is $75 or more,
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  • We'll also send you
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  • The "grace gone wild" teaching series on both cd and dvd,
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  • Along with the application guide.
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  • There are too many christians today
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  • Who have taken this marvelous gift of grace
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  • And perverted it.
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  • They are robbing themselves
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  • Of the joy that comes from obedience to god.
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  • Thank you for your generous support
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  • Of "pathway to victory."
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  • Your gift helps us bring bold,
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  • Biblical teaching around the world.
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  • Together, we are piercing the darkness
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  • With the light of god's word.
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  • As we come to the end of our series, "grace gone wild,"
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  • I hope you have a clear understanding
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  • Of what grace is and what it isn't.
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  • When we truly understand the scope of god's grace,
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  • We realize that sin has no place in the life of a christian.
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  • Well, the most important question
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  • A person can ask in life is this one:
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  • How can i have a right relationship with god?
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  • And the verse that gives the answer, in my opinion,
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  • In the most clear fashion,
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  • Is the most important verse, i believe, in all of the bible.
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  • Stay tuned for a preview
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  • Of what's coming up next on "pathway to victory."
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  • Admittedly, a pastor's setting himself up for trouble
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  • When he announces he's going to talk about
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  • The most important verse in the bible
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  • Because everybody has a different idea
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  • Of what that verse should be.
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  • But i think you would agree with me
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  • That if you had to select
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  • The single most important verse in the bible,
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  • It ought to be one that answers
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  • The most important question in life.
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  • Set your dvr and join us next time for the message:
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  • "the most important verse in the bible."
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  • -here on "pathway to victory."
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