Robert Jeffress - How To Treat Your Next Pastor (Part 2)

May 22, 2026 | 27:29

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Dr. Robert Jeffress | Robert Jeffress - How To Treat Your Next Pastor (Part 2) | May 22, 2026
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  • From the pulpit of the first baptist church
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  • Of dallas, texas, this is "pathway to victory"
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  • With dr. robert jeffress.
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  • Hi, i am robert jeffress,
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  • And welcome again to "pathway to victory."
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  • We most often see our pastors delivering sermons
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  • On sunday mornings,
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  • But as the leader of the congregation
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  • At first baptist church in dallas,
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  • My responsibilities go far beyond just preaching.
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  • The same is true for the pastor in your local church,
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  • And today we're going to see
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  • What the writer of hebrews says about a pastor's role
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  • And how a congregation should respond
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  • To their leader's authority.
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  • My message is titled, "how to treat your next pastor,"
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  • On today's edition of "pathway to victory."
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  • -♪ when peace like a river ♪
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  • ♪ attendeth my way ♪
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  • ♪ when sorrows ♪
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  • ♪ like sea billows roll ♪
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  • ♪ whatever my lot ♪
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  • ♪ thou hast taught me to say ♪
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  • ♪ it is well ♪
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  • ♪ with my soul ♪
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  • ♪ it is well ♪
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  • ♪ with my soul ♪
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  • ♪ it is well ♪
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  • ♪ with my soul ♪
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  • ♪ music ♪
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  • ♪ and lord, haste the day ♪
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  • ♪ when my faith shall be sight ♪
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  • ♪ the clouds be rolled back ♪
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  • ♪ as a scroll ♪
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  • ♪ music ♪
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  • -♪ the trump shall resound ♪ -(trumpet resonating)
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  • ♪ and the lord shall descend ♪
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  • ♪ even so ♪
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  • ♪ it is well ♪
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  • ♪ with my soul ♪
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  • ♪ music ♪
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  • ♪ it is well ♪
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  • ♪ with my soul ♪
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  • -♪ it is well ♪
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  • ♪ it is well ♪
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  • ♪ with my soul ♪
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  • ♪ music ♪
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  • ♪ amen ♪
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  • (congregation applauding)
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  • ♪ music ♪
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  • There's some of you watching right now,
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  • You may have been in an abusive situation
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  • Where you were abused
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  • By a spiritual authority in the church,
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  • And you said,
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  • "i'm never getting in that kind of situation again."
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  • Well, let's admit, there are some bad leaders out there.
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  • And how do we handle leaders who abuse their place
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  • Of spiritual leadership?
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  • Let's talk about that for just a moment.
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  • In jesus' day,
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  • The abusive spiritual leaders were called the pharisees,
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  • And they were a group of jewish leaders
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  • Who placed their tradition above god's word.
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  • In fact, jesus said they were hypocrites
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  • Because they came up with regulations for other people
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  • That they themselves were unwilling to follow.
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  • And listen to what jesus said about them in matthew 15.
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  • Hold your place here and go over to matthew 15.
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  • Jesus' harshest criticisms were not leveled
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  • Against adulterers, murderers, thieves.
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  • It was against hypocritical religious leaders.
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  • Look at chapter 15, verses 1 to 14.
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  • "then some pharisees and scribes
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  • Came to jesus from jerusalem and they said,
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  • 'why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders?
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  • For they do not wash their hands when they eat bread.'
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  • This was pre-covid.
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  • They weren't washing their hands when they eat bread.
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  • Now, that was a tradition.
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  • They were concerned
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  • That the disciples weren't following their traditions
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  • Instead of the word of god.
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  • And so jesus called them out on it.
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  • "he said to them,
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  • 'why do you yourselves transgress the commandment of god
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  • For the sake of your tradition?'"
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  • And then he goes on and gives example after example
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  • Of where the pharisees were placing their tradition
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  • Above god's word.
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  • Now, skip down to verse 12.
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  • "then the disciples came and said to jesus,
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  • 'do you know that the pharisees were offended
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  • When they heard this statement?'"
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  • Ooh, the pharisees are upset.
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  • Jesus couldn't have cared less. (chuckling)
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  • Notice what he said in verse 13,
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  • "but jesus answered and he said,
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  • 'every plant which my heavenly father did not plant
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  • Shall be uprooted.
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  • But you let them alone.
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  • Let them alone, for they are blind guides of the blind.
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  • And if a blind man guides a blind man,
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  • Both will fall into a pit.'"
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  • Isn't that interesting?
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  • He didn't say,
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  • "get rid of the pharisees. vote 'em out of office."
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  • He said, "leave 'em alone.
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  • They will self-implode,
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  • And they'll take everybody who's following them
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  • Down with them.
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  • Leave them alone."
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  • How do you handle a spiritual, abusive leader?
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  • Now, listen to me.
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  • The bible says there are two reasons
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  • To get rid of a leader, a pastor, two reasons.
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  • Reason number one, if he preaches heresy.
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  • If i ever stand in this pulpit
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  • And deny the deity of jesus christ,
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  • The inspiration of the scripture,
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  • The blood atonement of christ for our sins,
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  • The literal return of jesus christ one day,
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  • If i ever deny those basics, i'm not talking about,
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  • You know, "does the tribulation and the rapture,
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  • Come before or after the millennium?"
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  • I'm not talking about that.
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  • I'm talking about basic bible doctrine,
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  • The basics of the faith.
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  • If i ever deny those truths,
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  • You need to call a business meeting
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  • And fire me as your pastor.
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  • There's no place for that.
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  • The second reason to get rid of a leader is immorality.
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  • 1 timothy 5:19 talks about not just an accusation
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  • Against a pastor, but if you have proof
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  • On the basis of two or three eyewitnesses,
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  • You're to get rid of him.
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  • But any other offense outside of that, what does jesus say?
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  • Leave them alone. leave them alone.
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  • Let god deal with it.
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  • I had a deacon who called me from another church
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  • And he told me this story.
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  • He said he was not pleased with the pastor,
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  • The current pastor that they had,
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  • And some other deacons came to him and said,
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  • "we sense you're as upset with this pastor as we are.
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  • We want you to join us in removing the pastor from office."
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  • And this deacon said, "i told them no."
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  • They were astonished. they said, "well, why not?"
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  • He said, "if we uproot this pastor,
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  • We will also uproot the other members in the church
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  • Who revere him and respect him.
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  • We can't do that. leave him alone and let god deal with it."
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  • That's what jesus was saying here,
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  • "if you try to uproot somebody
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  • That the father did not plant,
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  • It will hurt other people in the process as well."
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  • Now, i'm talking to some of you right now
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  • Watching this message,
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  • You're in a church and you don't care for your pastor,
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  • You disagree with him.
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  • Pray for him.
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  • If you need to, go talk to him
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  • And share your concern in a spirit of love.
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  • And if you still can't resolve it,
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  • Don't try to get rid of him.
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  • Don't lead a rebellion.
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  • Don't be guilty of disenchanting
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  • And disillusioning other christians.
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  • Go find a church.
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  • Go find a pastor that you respect
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  • And whose authority you can follow.
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  • That's the way you deal with leaders
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  • That you don't agree with.
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  • But the vast majority of pastors out there today
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  • Are not bad pastors.
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  • They're doing the best they can to take care of you,
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  • To watch over your soul.
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  • So let's talk about how we do respond to pastors
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  • And spiritual leaders in the church.
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  • Going back to verse 17 of hebrews 13,
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  • We've talked about the difficulty of this command.
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  • Let's talk about the meaning of this command.
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  • "obey your leaders, submit to them,
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  • For they keep watch over your souls
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  • As those who will give an account.
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  • Let them do this with joy and not with grief.
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  • For this would be unprofitable for you."
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  • To unpack the truth of this verse,
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  • I want to answer three questions that arise from this passage.
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  • First of all, who? exactly who are we to follow?
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  • I mean, that's an important question.
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  • I mean, after all,
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  • There are a lot of spiritual leaders out there.
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  • You've got your sunday school teacher,
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  • You've got your bible study fellowship leader,
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  • You've got the deacons, you've got staff members.
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  • You've got all these people out there.
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  • Exactly who is in mind here that we're supposed to follow?
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  • Well, it's very clear, verse 17,
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  • "obey your leaders, submit to them,
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  • For they keep watch over your souls
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  • As those who will give an account."
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  • The words "watch over,"
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  • That phrase comes from two greek words,
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  • "search" and "sleep."
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  • Your leader that he's talking about here
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  • Is the one who searches for sleep.
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  • He's losing sleep over the condition of your soul,
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  • Because he knows he will give an account.
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  • There's only one person that's true of,
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  • And it's the pastor of your church.
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  • As we'll see in just a moment in 1 peter 5,
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  • Jesus is the chief shepherd of this church,
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  • But he is temporarily left earth,
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  • And he's left the care of this flock
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  • Under the care of the under shepherd.
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  • And one day the pastor of this church, whoever it is,
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  • Will give an account to god
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  • For how he has led this congregation.
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  • This is a reference here to the pastor,
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  • The one who watches out for your soul.
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  • Now turn over to 1 peter 5:1-4,
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  • Where peter explains this even more.
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  • I'm going to give you about a three-minute lesson here
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  • From 1 peter 5 about church government,
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  • 'cause there's a lot of questions today
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  • About how a church is supposed to be organized.
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  • And you're confused about pastors and elders and deacons,
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  • Well, this clears it up real clearly for you.
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  • 1 peter 5:1-4, "therefore, peter said,
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  • 'i exhort the elders among you as your fellow elder
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  • And witness of the sufferings of christ
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  • And a partaker also of the glory that is to be revealed.'"
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  • Peter said, "i'm an elder writing the fellow elders."
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  • That greek word "elder" is "presbuteros."
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  • It refers to the dignity of the pastoral office,
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  • "i exhort the elders among you."
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  • Verse two, "shepherd the flock of god among you."
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  • There's the second word that describes the pastor.
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  • " in it's the word "poim greek, literally the "shepherd."
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  • The pastor is one who has an office of dignity.
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  • He's the elder. he is to shepherd, the flock of god.
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  • That means to protect, to feed the flock of god.
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  • He's the pastor.
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  • And then the third phrase, "exercising oversight."
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  • The pastor is not only an elder and a shepherd,
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  • He's the overseer.
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  • There's a similar greek word used in 1 timothy 3,
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  • "episkopos," ruler, the bishop over the church.
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  • There are not three offices in the church.
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  • There's not pastors and elders and deacons.
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  • There's only two offices.
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  • There is the office of the pastor,
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  • Who is the same as the elder,
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  • Who's the same as the ruler of the church,
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  • And there are the deacons.
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  • In 1 timothy 3, paul addresses the qualifications
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  • For overseers and deacons.
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  • He does the same in philippians 1
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  • When he talks about the pastors,
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  • The overseers and the deacons.
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  • There are two offices,
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  • And the one who has charge
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  • Over the spiritual wellbeing of the congregation
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  • Is the pastor.
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  • That is so clear here, we have a pastor.
  • 00:14:33.595 --> 00:14:37.800
  • Now, some of you say,
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  • "well, pastor, are you saying you're the elder?"
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  • Yes. yes, that's what the bible says.
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  • I'm the overseer. i'm the shepherd of the congregation.
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  • Well, doesn't the bible talk about multiple elders?
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  • Well, if the flock gets too big,
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  • Yes, we need multiple elders.
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  • And we have multiple elders.
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  • I'm not the only elder, i'm the chief elder,
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  • But i'm not the only elder at first baptist dallas,
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  • But it's all an extension of the office of pastor.
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  • We even break it down further than that.
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  • You know, with a church of 14,000,
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  • There's no way we could hire enough elders, pastors,
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  • To oversee everybody,
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  • And so we've divided the responsibility even further.
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  • Do you remember in exodus 18 when moses was complaining
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  • That it was too much to watch over his flock?
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  • Jethro, his father-in-law said,
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  • "break 'em down into manageable units."
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  • And that's what we've done here.
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  • We're into sunday school departments,
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  • We've got sunday school directors,
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  • We've got sunday school teachers.
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  • There's doug brady over there.
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  • He's feeding his flock that god has put under his charge.
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  • We've got everybody under somebody's spiritual care
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  • In the church.
  • 00:15:47.536 --> 00:15:48.871
  • But primarily here, he's talking about the pastor
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  • And those who assist him in his role as shepherd.
  • 00:15:51.974 --> 00:15:55.044
  • Now, secondly, the question of what?
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  • What are we supposed to do in relationship
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  • To that spiritual authority god is placed over us?
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  • It says we are to submit.
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  • Literally, that word means to quit resisting,
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  • To yield and quit resisting.
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  • Don't resist their leadership in your lives.
  • 00:16:12.361 --> 00:16:16.665
  • Now, folks, this is important,
  • 00:16:16.665 --> 00:16:18.600
  • Inherent here is the qualification,
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  • The areas of your life over which they're responsible.
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  • You know, there are some pastors who abuse this.
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  • I mean, they want to try to control their people
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  • And everything they do.
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  • If you come up to me and you say,
  • 00:16:34.383 --> 00:16:36.118
  • "pastor, i'm thinking about buying a home.
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  • Do you have any advice for me?"
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  • I'm not going to give you advice on what home to buy.
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  • I'm not going to say, "well, god told me to tell you
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  • You're only supposed to buy a 3,000-square-foot home."
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  • That's not any of my business.
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  • That's not my area of authority.
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  • Even certain things in the church are really not up to me.
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  • Just imagine that i go into one of our planning
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  • And development committee meetings,
  • 00:17:00.008 --> 00:17:01.610
  • And they're having a meeting
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  • On what kind of electrical wiring to have,
  • 00:17:02.845 --> 00:17:05.848
  • And i crashed the meeting and i said,
  • 00:17:05.848 --> 00:17:07.449
  • "i know you all are talking about electrical wiring,
  • 00:17:07.449 --> 00:17:09.785
  • And god has told me that you need to use this grade,
  • 00:17:09.785 --> 00:17:13.355
  • This quality of wiring in the building."
  • 00:17:13.355 --> 00:17:15.858
  • Boy, the chairman, mark lavvorn would look at me
  • 00:17:16.792 --> 00:17:18.260
  • Like i'd lost my mind,
  • 00:17:18.260 --> 00:17:19.528
  • "what are you doing talking about that?
  • 00:17:19.528 --> 00:17:21.763
  • That's not your area of expertise."
  • 00:17:21.763 --> 00:17:24.099
  • I know pastors who actually try to control
  • 00:17:24.099 --> 00:17:26.235
  • Where the money of the church,
  • 00:17:26.235 --> 00:17:27.669
  • The funds of the church are invested.
  • 00:17:27.669 --> 00:17:30.339
  • We don't do that. that's not my responsibility.
  • 00:17:30.339 --> 00:17:32.908
  • We have deacons and staff to oversee all of those things.
  • 00:17:32.908 --> 00:17:36.945
  • There are some areas i should have no authority in,
  • 00:17:36.945 --> 00:17:40.516
  • But there are other things that are under my purview.
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  • You won't believe this,
  • 00:17:43.552 --> 00:17:44.953
  • But did you know i get regular emails from people
  • 00:17:44.953 --> 00:17:48.323
  • Telling me how i ought to conduct the invitation
  • 00:17:48.323 --> 00:17:50.993
  • At the end of the service,
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  • What i ought to include in the prayer of salvation.
  • 00:17:53.295 --> 00:17:56.565
  • And you know my response to that
  • 00:17:56.565 --> 00:17:58.000
  • When somebody tries to do that?
  • 00:17:58.000 --> 00:17:59.535
  • You know, my response is, "it's none of your beeswax."
  • 00:17:59.535 --> 00:18:05.340
  • (congregation laughing)
  • 00:18:05.841 --> 00:18:07.442
  • It's a greek word, "beeswax." you probably didn't know that.
  • 00:18:07.442 --> 00:18:09.044
  • No, i don't respond that way, but that's what i think.
  • 00:18:09.044 --> 00:18:11.046
  • I mean, that's not your area of expertise.
  • 00:18:11.046 --> 00:18:14.583
  • The pastor has authority in the areas
  • 00:18:14.583 --> 00:18:17.519
  • That god has designated to him.
  • 00:18:17.519 --> 00:18:20.489
  • One more example, part of the role of the pastor,
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  • The authority he has is to correct members who are in sin.
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  • If there is somebody in the church
  • 00:18:30.399 --> 00:18:32.100
  • Who is living an immoralized lifestyle
  • 00:18:32.100 --> 00:18:34.570
  • That is hurting the reputation of christ and the church,
  • 00:18:34.570 --> 00:18:38.273
  • The pastor's supposed to correct that.
  • 00:18:38.273 --> 00:18:41.109
  • If there is somebody who's causing disunity in the church,
  • 00:18:41.109 --> 00:18:46.348
  • The pastor has to address that.
  • 00:18:46.982 --> 00:18:50.285
  • And a church our size,
  • 00:18:50.285 --> 00:18:52.454
  • I've designated that responsibility to elder alan lynch.
  • 00:18:52.454 --> 00:18:56.925
  • He's in charge of correction.
  • 00:18:56.925 --> 00:18:59.161
  • If alan calls you up and wants to talk to you,
  • 00:18:59.161 --> 00:19:01.263
  • It's usually not good news, okay?
  • 00:19:01.263 --> 00:19:03.699
  • No. no, he has a lot of good news too.
  • 00:19:03.699 --> 00:19:06.168
  • But that's part of our responsibility.
  • 00:19:06.168 --> 00:19:09.004
  • If i or a staff member talks to you about something
  • 00:19:09.004 --> 00:19:13.041
  • That is wrong, the bible says, "don't resist, don't rebel."
  • 00:19:13.041 --> 00:19:17.446
  • Don't argue, yield to that correction,
  • 00:19:17.446 --> 00:19:20.916
  • Because it's for your benefit, not for our benefit.
  • 00:19:20.916 --> 00:19:25.420
  • We're watching over your soul.
  • 00:19:25.420 --> 00:19:28.023
  • We're trying to help you in your relationship with god.
  • 00:19:28.023 --> 00:19:32.261
  • That's what we're supposed to do.
  • 00:19:32.261 --> 00:19:34.229
  • We're supposed to submit, not resist in those areas
  • 00:19:34.229 --> 00:19:38.133
  • That we've been given responsibility for.
  • 00:19:38.133 --> 00:19:40.569
  • Why? why should we respond this way?
  • 00:19:40.569 --> 00:19:43.338
  • Well, look again at verse 17,
  • 00:19:43.338 --> 00:19:45.307
  • "for they keep watch over your souls
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  • As those who will give an account.
  • 00:19:48.310 --> 00:19:50.946
  • Let them do this with joy and not with grief,
  • 00:19:50.946 --> 00:19:53.915
  • For this would be unprofitable for you."
  • 00:19:53.915 --> 00:19:56.885
  • The reason you're to yield a spiritual authority
  • 00:19:56.885 --> 00:19:59.688
  • Is because they're not trying to help themselves,
  • 00:19:59.688 --> 00:20:02.391
  • They're trying to help you.
  • 00:20:02.391 --> 00:20:05.260
  • And when you resist,
  • 00:20:05.727 --> 00:20:07.829
  • It may make life miserable for your leader,
  • 00:20:07.829 --> 00:20:10.799
  • But it's even worse for you.
  • 00:20:10.799 --> 00:20:13.435
  • You know, i came across this story from chuck swindoll
  • 00:20:14.536 --> 00:20:18.640
  • When he was a staff member at another church.
  • 00:20:19.608 --> 00:20:22.744
  • This was interesting.
  • 00:20:22.744 --> 00:20:24.179
  • He said, "i was having lunch with a friend one day,
  • 00:20:24.179 --> 00:20:26.882
  • During the conversation,
  • 00:20:26.882 --> 00:20:28.350
  • He asked if i could join him on a particular trip
  • 00:20:28.350 --> 00:20:31.286
  • As a speaker with his organization."
  • 00:20:31.286 --> 00:20:34.156
  • Chuck said, "i replied that i would be delighted to do that,
  • 00:20:34.156 --> 00:20:37.059
  • But first i would have to check with my spiritual leader
  • 00:20:37.059 --> 00:20:40.462
  • To ask his opinion
  • 00:20:40.462 --> 00:20:41.930
  • Of the organization i would be associating with."
  • 00:20:41.930 --> 00:20:45.467
  • Well, this opened up a pandora's box.
  • 00:20:45.467 --> 00:20:48.470
  • My friend expressed, in no uncertain terms, his disapproval
  • 00:20:48.470 --> 00:20:53.108
  • At a grown man having to do that sort of thing.
  • 00:20:53.108 --> 00:20:56.712
  • He pitted me to him.
  • 00:20:56.712 --> 00:20:58.547
  • The idea of being in submission to anyone was unthinkable.
  • 00:20:58.547 --> 00:21:02.984
  • "so i asked him," chuck said, "who watches for your soul
  • 00:21:02.984 --> 00:21:07.556
  • As those who must give an account?
  • 00:21:07.556 --> 00:21:09.891
  • Who loves you and has your best interest at heart?
  • 00:21:09.891 --> 00:21:13.829
  • Who prays for you and counsels you
  • 00:21:13.829 --> 00:21:16.064
  • And objectively seeks god's best for you?
  • 00:21:16.064 --> 00:21:19.668
  • Who does that for you?"
  • 00:21:19.668 --> 00:21:21.503
  • The man said, "no one. no one."
  • 00:21:22.137 --> 00:21:27.008
  • "then don't pity me," chuck said,
  • 00:21:27.008 --> 00:21:28.744
  • "for being under the authority of another.
  • 00:21:28.744 --> 00:21:31.646
  • You're the one to be pitied, not i.
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  • Those who watch out for my soul
  • 00:21:34.316 --> 00:21:36.551
  • Are among the greatest heritages in the world.
  • 00:21:36.551 --> 00:21:40.021
  • I'm to be envied, not pitied."
  • 00:21:40.021 --> 00:21:45.627
  • Let me encourage those of you watching
  • 00:21:46.461 --> 00:21:51.333
  • Or listening to this message,
  • 00:21:51.967 --> 00:21:54.770
  • If you don't have somebody watching out for your soul,
  • 00:21:54.770 --> 00:21:59.808
  • Get under the authority of a local church.
  • 00:22:00.675 --> 00:22:03.779
  • You know, in our american individualistic society,
  • 00:22:03.779 --> 00:22:06.848
  • We think all we need
  • 00:22:06.848 --> 00:22:08.116
  • Is just me and my relationship with god.
  • 00:22:08.116 --> 00:22:10.786
  • That's enough. i don't need other people.
  • 00:22:10.786 --> 00:22:13.221
  • No, we need one another. that's why god created the church.
  • 00:22:13.221 --> 00:22:18.427
  • I take this position as a a sacred trust.
  • 00:22:19.294 --> 00:22:22.464
  • And if the day ever comes, this just becomes a job to me,
  • 00:22:22.464 --> 00:22:27.736
  • That's the day i'm leaving.
  • 00:22:28.336 --> 00:22:29.905
  • But until then, with god's help, i'm going to do the best i can
  • 00:22:29.905 --> 00:22:33.975
  • To watch out for you.
  • 00:22:33.975 --> 00:22:36.211
  • And as long as i fulfill my responsibility to you
  • 00:22:36.211 --> 00:22:40.382
  • And you continue to fulfill your responsibilities,
  • 00:22:40.382 --> 00:22:44.186
  • God will bless us both,
  • 00:22:44.186 --> 00:22:46.588
  • And he'll continue to bless this great church
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  • As he's done for the last 150 years.
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  • Sometimes those problems can strengthen us,
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  • But sometimes they can cause our faith to shatter.
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  • God has placed pastors in our lives
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  • To help us stay on track in our relationship with him,
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  • And that's a responsibility i don't take lightly.
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  • My goal is to see every member of my congregation
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  • Grow in their faith.
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  • And as your bible teacher on television,
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  • I hope to see the same for you.
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  • Well, in today's culture,
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  • There's a growing interest in the supernatural.
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  • God not only understands this earthly fascination,
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  • He speaks to it, and i invite you to join me
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  • For my upcoming series, "the truth about angels."
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  • You know, there are some people
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  • Who overestimate angels and their importance,
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  • But there are other people who deny the existence of angels.
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  • They think, "oh, this is just mythology.
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  • Angels, they're invisible!
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  • And they think invisible means not real.
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  • You know, that's a tragic mistake to assume
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  • That something that is not visible to the naked eye
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  • Is not real.
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  • Set your dvr and join us next time
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  • For the series, "the truth about angels,"
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  • Here on "pathway to victory."
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  • The apostle paul sailed these waters, walked these streets,
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  • And the church was never the same.
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  • I'm inviting you to follow in paul's footsteps
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