Best of TBN 2025 (Part 2)

December 31, 2025 | 60:27

Join TBN for the best moments from 2025. We’ll go behind the scenes and experience this year’s highlights, teaching moments, worship encounters, and more! Laugh out loud, see previews of new programs, and dive deep into God’s word. Kick off the new year with TBN and come away with fresh perspective!

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| Best of TBN 2025 (Part 2) | December 31, 2025

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- welcome to tbn's best of 2025.
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Tonight you'll hear powerful teaching,
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Real life stories,
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And timely conversations that remind us
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God is still moving,
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Still speaking,
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And still at work in our world today.
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This hour invites us to go deeper,
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To wrestle with truth,
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To stand firm in faith
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And to trust god through the storms of life.
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As we reflect on this past year,
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We do so with confidence
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Knowing the kingdom of god is advancing
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And his promises remain unshaken.
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This us tbn's best in 2025.
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♪ hey mama, you'll be proud
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♪ 'cause i finally found the truth ♪
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♪ and it seems like all your prayers ♪
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♪ yeah, they finally got through ♪
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♪ i been caught up in my head
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♪ trin' to fight that deja vu
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♪ thought that i was at the end ♪
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♪ but now i'm livin' on the moon ♪
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♪ i know this heart got power
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♪ these eyes got power
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♪ this love got power
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♪ this touch got power
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♪ said this heart got power
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♪ these eyes got power
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♪ i feel it in my veins
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♪ i'm dancin' every day like
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♪ i am finally alive
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♪ i'm gonna set my world on fire ♪
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♪ i will never dim my light
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♪ i'm gonna set my world on fire ♪
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♪ oh, this ain't no magic
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♪ this is for real, no plastic
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♪ this ain't no magic
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♪ i thought i n could have it ♪
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♪ whoa, i am finally alive
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♪ i'm gonna s my world on fire ♪
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♪ so watch me burn
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- when we begin to read other people's stories
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And testimonies of triumphs,
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We start to realize that we serve a real big god.
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- where is the hope?
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We live in a world that is just corroded
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By corruption and sin.
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And where is the hope?
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You know where the hope is,
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It's in the gospel of jesus christ.
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It's in him changing one life at a time.
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And he's still in the life changing business.
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- i rejoice greatly in my god.
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- yes, amen.
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- he has been everything that he promised he would be.
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♪ i'm dancin' every day like
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♪ i am finally alive
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♪ i'm gonna set my world on fire ♪
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- you can move if you want.
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♪ i will never dim my light
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♪ i'm gonna set my world on fire ♪
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♪ oh, this ain't no magic
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♪ this is for real, no plastic
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♪ this ain't no magic
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♪ i thought i never could have it ♪
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♪ whoa, i am finally alive
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♪ i'm gonna set my world on fire ♪
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♪ so watch me burn
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(upbeat music)
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♪ this little light of mine, i'm gonna let it shine ♪
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♪ bright, bright, bright
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- sing it with us.
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♪ i said this little light of mine, i'm gonna let it shine ♪
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♪ bright, bright, bright
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♪ i said this little light of mine, i'm gonna let it shine ♪
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♪ bright, bright, bright
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♪ so watch me burn
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♪ i am finally alive
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♪ i'm gonna set my world on fire ♪
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♪ i will never dim my light
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♪ i'm gonna set my world on fire ♪
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♪ oh, this ain't no magic
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♪ this is for real, no plastic
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♪ this ain't no magic
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♪ i thought i never could have it ♪
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♪ this ain't no magic
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(upbeat music)
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♪ this is for real, no plastic
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♪ this ain't no magic
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♪ i thought i'd never could have it ♪
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♪ whoa, i am finally alive
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♪ i'm gonna set my world on fire ♪
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♪ so watch me burn
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(audience cheering)
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- [narrator] life is made up of moments.
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Like turning the pages of a photograph album,
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Our memories preserve for us the relationships
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And events that tell the stories of each of our lives.
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Happy, sad, joyful, and painful.
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The memories of our days make up the fabric of who we are.
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♪ precious memories
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- that was in laurie and my studio
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In costa mesa, california back in about 1994.
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We created that open for "precious memories."
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And laurie and i, we get to say thank you again
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That you paid our house payment-
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- he did. - for 15 years of our lives.
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- thank you, bill- - you sure did.
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- and jesus and gloria.
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(all laughing)
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- we were reading your blog
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From late last year, i think it was,
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You posted it in november.
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And you were sitting at a little cafe.
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Kind of tell that little story, it's beautiful.
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- well, it was a cold day, and it was raining
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And really blustery, and i had dived into this little cafe
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To get coffee on my way to get my hair done.
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And it was busy in that morning,
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Because everybody had done the same thing,
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So this waitress was busy.
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But she brought my egg in a record time.
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I couldn't believe how fast i got it.
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And she looked me in the eye, and sat down my order,
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And she said, "enjoy."
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It was the first time i'd ever heard anybody say that.
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It's used a lot now, but it wasn't then.
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And that moment between us
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Just echoed in my mind the rest of the day.
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And so the blog is about how my day unfolded.
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But the word of that one waitress said,
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"this is a moment, don't miss it."
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You know, you've got this perfectly done
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Egg, like i asked.
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You know, this lady who is busy, busy
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And takes time to smile at me and look at me,
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And tell me to enjoy.
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There are blessings all around us.
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And we live too fast, and we live too blind.
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And there is always something else,
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Not just what's happening,
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But the fragrance, the smell, the sound,
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The beauty, the sight. (gentle music)
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And i think if jesus does anything for our lives,
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It is to sharpen everything.
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You hear people when they first meet god, saying,
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"i, the sounds were different,
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The sky was bluer, the grass was greener."
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It's always been, so what changed?
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The awareness that there is something eternal
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Going on in every moment.
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And we are not fit for eternity
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If we don't recognize the eternity
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In the moments that we have.
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- [matt and laurie] that's beautiful.
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- tender words, gentle touch,
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And a good cup of coffee.
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And someone who loves me. and someone who loves me.
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And wants me to stay.
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And wants me to stay. hold them near.
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Whether here. hold them near.
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Don't wait for tomorrow to look back-
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Whether here. and wish for this day.
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Ah, don't wait for tomorrow.
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We have this moment to hold in our hands and to touch, wish.
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And it slips through our fingers like sand.
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Yes, there, it's gone.
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♪ and we have this moment - and tomorrow
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Will never come.
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♪ to hold in our hands - we have this moment today.
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Don't miss it.
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♪ as it slips through - don't miss it.
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♪ our fingers like sand
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- yesterday's gone. ♪ yesterday is gone
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♪ and tomorrow may never come
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♪ but we have this moment today ♪
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- sing the last line.
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♪ we have this moment today
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- sing it again.
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♪ we have this moment today
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- world leaders. your anointing took you to world leaders.
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Take us to a moment when you didn't feel qualified
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To be in that position.
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- a lot of people.
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- see the glory of what we do,
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And they laud us for our accomplishments,
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And, but they don't see the fall.
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It was in 19, i'm sorry, 1999, that i fathered a child.
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(gentle music)
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And i say all the time, it wasn't a mistake.
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I hate when we try to romanticize our wrong doings.
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It wasn't a mis, a mistake is something
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You didn't mean to do.
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And oops, it was disobedience. and it was embarrassing.
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And it showed the side of me that i fought with for so long.
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And now this is made public and known,
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'cause i can't disown what i've done.
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The one thing i have to have is integrity.
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Even if i'm wrong, i gotta have,
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I gotta have integrity, even, even if i'm wrong.
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I gotta have integrity. and i gave up.
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I sat down and i had to do a tour.
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And i went and i told bishop jakes, i can't sing with,
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It was at a "woman thou art loosed" meeting
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And i was supposed to sing
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And i had to get my sister cece to come.
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And i had to tell him, i messed up. i fathered a child.
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And so i can't, i don't wanna bring shame to your ministry.
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And we sat and we cried together.
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He was the most loving, the most compassionate,
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The most understanding man.
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Many times bishop jakes has healed my brokenness.
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That was the weakest point in my life.
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For seven months i sat and did nothing.
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And then i went and i heard at a dove award.
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♪ we fall down, but we get up
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♪ we fall down, but we get up
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♪ a saint is just the sinner who fell down and got ♪
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That's all i heard.
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And that's the only thing that brought me back to realize
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That god knew.
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♪ it's a new day
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♪ and i thank you
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♪ it's a new day, hallelu
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♪ it's a new day, bright new mercy ♪
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♪ lord i thank you
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♪ mm-mm, lord i thank you
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♪ mm, say
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♪ it's a new day and i thank you ♪
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♪ it's a new day, hallelu
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♪ it's a new day, bright new mercy ♪
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♪ lord i thank you
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♪ o lord ♪ mm-mm
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♪ yes lord ♪ lord i thank you
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♪ ooh-ooh ♪ say
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♪ lord i thank you for your blessing ♪
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♪ every blessing
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- and then he brought me to proverbs
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And said, "a just man falls seven times."
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A just man, a just man falls seven times,
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But he rises back up again.
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I'm saying, "well, how is he just?"
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Because his proclivities did not stop god's mercy.
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His failure didn't stop god's mercy.
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Then he took me and i'm about to, god help me.
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Then he took me to micah 7:8.
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Micah 7:8 says, "rejoice not against me, o my enemy,
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For when i fall," not if i fall,
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"for when i fall, i shall arise again,
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And when i sit in darkness, god will be a light unto me."
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And outta all the words that were preached to me,
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They didn't really hit me until god started talking to me
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Through these two scriptures.
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- mm. - and started to show me.
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Now, let me use your fault and failure
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As a testimony to others,
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If you're not ashamed to tell it.
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♪ lord i thank you
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(inspirational music continues)
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♪ i'm amazed
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♪ i'm amazed at ♪ how you love
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♪ how you love me
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♪ lord you loved me
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♪ even though i don't deserve ♪ though i don't deserve
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♪ all of your blessings
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♪ still you bless me, hallelu
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(gentle music)
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♪ it's a new day
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♪ and i thank you ♪ oh
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♪ for my family, hallelu
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- thank you, that at the end of the day,
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The bible is a love story
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That over and over and over again,
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You tell us that we are your treasure.
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Jesus, you tell us that we,
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On our worst day, that we're the joy set before you,
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That you endured the cross because of us.
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♪ lord, i thank you
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♪ say ♪ ooh
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♪ i've got more than i deserve
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♪ lord, i thank you
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- god's asking us, can you go?
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Faith gives thanks in the middle of the story.
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So can i pick up a pen and write down the things
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That are even hard to give thanks for,
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And realize, oh, i'm trusting right now and having faith
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That god is going to work even this into a good, good gift?
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♪ lord, i thank you ♪ o lord
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♪ thank you jesus ♪ lord i thank you
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♪ for every thing you've done ♪ ooh-ooh
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♪ for every thing you've done ♪ lord, i thank you
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♪ thank you ♪ ooh-ooh
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♪ o my ♪ lord, i thank you
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♪ mm-mm
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(audience applauds)
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- there's a unique peacefulness to this location,
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But when you start flipping the pages of the bible,
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It seems like the bigger moments of the sea of galilee
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Were storm or jesus walking on
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Or calming the storm or,
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And so many times you think of jesus saying,
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"where's your faith?" to the disciples.
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And he's sleeping on a boat,
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And you know, i mean, it all starts rushing back.
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- matt, i'm going to get you in trouble right here in front.
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(laurie laughs)
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You've been here how many times on the sea of?
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You and laurie, many, many.
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- yeah. - dozens and dozens
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And hundreds of times.
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But you had an experience here
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That you told me about yesterday, you need to share.
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(matt and laurie laughs)
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You were here with a group,
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And your mom and dad was here.
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- i'm probably 16 or 17 years old.
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I, you know, just a teenager.
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Some of the audience, you know, has to be told.
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I was in the white house doing an interview
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With president trump not long ago.
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And so i was doing his mic
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And, you know, we had just kind of nodded each other,
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You know, and i said,
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I said, "mr. president, you know my mom,"
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And, you know, he kind of does like this.
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And he goes, "well, well, i do? who's your mom?"
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I said, "jan crouch."
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He kind kinda went like, you know, "name seems familiar."
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And i said, "mr. president, jan crouch,
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Big, big, big pink wig, hair, you know?"
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He goes, "what? that's your mother!
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Oh my gosh, she loves me."
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(all laughing)
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And i remember- - she did.
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- so i usually introduce my mom
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To some of the newer audience to say that she, you know,
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When she was alive, she was a little out there
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With her hairstyles.
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We were on a boat like this and doing a service.
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And i hear this, ah, you know, this kind of,
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You know, scream and there's, you know, and we, and there's
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People standing up. - you just hear, matt!
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Matt! - and my mom's yelling.
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And sure enough, you know,
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What has happened is a lady has dropped her purse
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Over the side of the boat.
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Some things are floating, you know, lipstick tubes floating.
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And if you think, and the wallet is like
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Sitting on top of the water,
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And the next thing i know, you guys,
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You're gonna think i'm kidding.
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I'm gonna, i'm gonna stand up.
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Next thing i know, you know, i'm,
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We're all looking at it like this.
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(ed laughs)
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And the next thing i know, my mom's got me
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By the back of the pants and i'm, and i'm just, woo!
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(ed laughs)
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And she throws me- - get it, matt!
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- out into the water.
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And, i'm under water, and i come up for air
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And i have no idea what's going on.
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And while that wallet's in my hand,
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I kind of get- - heroic.
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- miracles are still happening.
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- the biggest, the biggest round of applause
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I've ever had in my life,
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You know, everyone screaming and.
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- you know, in the jewish tradition,
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They didn't trust the sea.
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You know, it was a scene of chaos and evil
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And a bit outta control.
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So i think they like to stay in the boat, to be honest.
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And couple of the stories out here that are my favorites
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Are exactly because,
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The drama's because there's storms.
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- yeah, so what happened on the whole calming of the storm?
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- yeah, well, jesus said to the disciples,
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"we're gonna go to the other side," and that's the promise.
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But then when they get in the boat, he falls asleep.
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And i love that little touch. he's just human, you know?
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He's tired.
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And then, i mean, it must've been late afternoon
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Because that's when these vicious storms whip up.
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One hits the lake.
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- these hard and tough fishermen
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They've been through it in their boats.
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They're terrified. - yeah.
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- but it's so outta control.
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The fishermen wake the builder up and say,
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"don't you care that we're gonna drown?"
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He's still asleep.
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You know he's sleeping through it all, jesus.
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They think it's life or death.
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- wow. - jesus stands up,
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Gets up, looks around, see's what the situation is.
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He says to the wind, "be calm."
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To the waves, "be still."
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It's almost like a parent telling a child,
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Just settle down. - yeah, i mean,
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It would kind of blow your mind.
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I mean, you'd be left with so many questions about,
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'cause you can't just make a storm stop.
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- that's just like with jesus.
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Like when he is in the boat, he says,
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You're going to the other side,
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You're going to the other side.
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He keeps his promise and he calms our fears,
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And that's what he did in the storms.
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- i wanna start by reading the scripture for us.
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Romans 5, verse 3.
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I feel like it's one of those scriptures that are,
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It's a foundation to our faith.
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It's profound, but it stings a little bit.
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It says, but we also glory in our sufferings,
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Because we know that suffering produces perseverance.
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Perseverance, character, and character, hope.
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And hope does not put us to shame,
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Because god's love has been poured out into our hearts
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Through the holy spirit who has been given to us.
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And for a lot of us that have been
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Through really hard things, probably all of us,
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Those types of scriptures, i don't know about for you,
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But they just make me kind of like,
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What are you saying, god?
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What do you mean?
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What do you mean that we glory
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That we rejoice in our sufferings?
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How?
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I'm remembering a time in my life about
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A year and a half ago
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That it was just suffering all around me.
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I genuinely don't know
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How i made it through that season.
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- wow.
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- and then i think about romans 5,
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And i'm like, oh, i know how i made it through that season.
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One, is that the holy spirit was with me.
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- yep. - in so many different ways.
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- the older i get, the easier it is for me to see
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That any circumstance is only my opportunity.
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- yeah. - right.
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- this isn't here to kill me.
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- yeah. - this isn't here
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To strangle me and take me out.
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This is here to bait my faith.
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- right.
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- who can say who god is, right?
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God giving us an opportunity to say who he is,
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Which is the currency of heaven, is our faith.
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Right, the love of god in us.
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And so all the trials, if you just do it in depth
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Of why we go through testing and trials,
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It's to make us to be perfect.
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- yeah. - lacking nothing.
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- yeah, that's good.
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- that's being like christ, right?
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Making us like jesus.
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- yes. - but it's because
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I've been through those places of just,
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All i have is my faith.
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- right. - yep.
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- there is no plan b. - yeah.
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- for me. - so good.
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- there is nothing else to lean on.
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And all becomes so simple
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Because god tells us throughout his word,
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Trust in me with all your heart.
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He tells us everything that we're supposed to do.
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- right. - if we just could learn it
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When we hear it.
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- right. - and not have to just go
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Through life learning it so much,
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Because it's all been written right here to how
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To get through life.
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♪ great aunt maurine said
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♪ at a hundred and three
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♪ write scripture on your heart ♪
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♪ for when you need it
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♪ 'cause anxiety hates
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♪ psalm 23
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♪ so just say it to yourself
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♪ 'til you believe it
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♪ and i'm feeling like
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♪ i'm needing it right now
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♪ the lord is my shepherd, i shall not want ♪
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♪ he leads me by still waters
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♪ 'til my fears are gone
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♪ though i walk through the valley ♪
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♪ of the shadow of death
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♪ oh, i know you are with me
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♪ my father, my friend
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♪ your goodness and mercy
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♪ will follow me all of my days ♪
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♪ i know by your still waters i'm safe ♪
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- there's nothing that i can go through
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Or be in that god doesn't speak to in his word.
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To calm my soul, to speak to my heart, to bring peace,
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To bring joy, to bring comfort.
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Everything's found right here,
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And i think we can all testify to the book of just psalms.
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- yeah. - yeah.
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- every psalm praises god somehow.
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- yeah.
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- and it's like, god, here i am,
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And so there's nothing that i can experience.
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- right. - in the depth of my soul
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That wasn't talked about,
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The good, the bad, and the ugly, it's all there.
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- yeah. - but then it's like,
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But my eyes are fixed on you.
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- yes. - yeah.
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- the author of my faith.
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Everything that i live for and trust
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And hope in, is found in you,
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And it's found in the song.
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♪ and i believe
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♪ yes, i believe
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♪ oh, the lord is my shepherd
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♪ i shall not want
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♪ he leads me by still waters
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♪ till my fears are gone
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♪ and though i walk through the valleys ♪
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♪ of the shadow of death
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♪ oh, i know you are with me
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♪ my father, my friend
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♪ your goodness and mercy
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♪ will follow me all of my days ♪
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♪ i know by your still waters i'm safe ♪
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- we sat across from rick warren,
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And we've done a number of interviews with him now,
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And this one particular time,
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Somehow we, you know, i mean, look,
00:24:26.644 --> 00:24:28.846
"the purpose driven life" is a phenomenon.
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And at one point, it was selling
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Almost a million copies a month, okay?
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So, you know, at some point i had read that somewhere,
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And i said to him, "rick, you know,
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You've explained to us that you sat at a typewriter
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For 12 hours a day for i think it was months,
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And pounded out every word of that book,
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And you struggled over it word by word,
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And it was just the most painful thing you've ever done."
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And yeah, i got it.
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- kay got cancer right after i wrote this book.
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And honestly, in the early years
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When this book was selling a million copies
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Every other month, honestly,
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The last thing i was thinking of is, "oh, this is great.
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I'm on the cover of 'time magazine.'"
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I'm holding the bed pan while my wife throws up,
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And her hair's falling out, and i'm going,
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Am i gonna be alone with three kids?
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And kay wrote a book one time called "choose joy."
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And on it, it's a pair of railroad tracks.
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And this goes to your point
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In that i used to think
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That we had good times and bad times,
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And that life was like mountains and valleys.
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Okay? you have high mountaintops and you have low valleys.
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But the truth is, life is more like a pair
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Of railroad tracks where you get both at the same time.
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- my goodness.
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- the good and the bad constantly.
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And no matter how good things are in your life,
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There's always something bad you gotta be working on, okay?
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And no matter how bad things are in your life,
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There's always something you can be thankful for,
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You can be grateful for.
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- in your life as a christian,
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You're gonna have these two experiences,
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And you get to choose where your mindset is.
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You can choose to be a victim,
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And you can choose to be a victor.
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- [narrator] 53 years ago, paul and jan crouch
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Stepped out in faith and started tbn
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With a vision of a 24-hour-a-day network for god's people.
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That first tiny station grew,
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And the network expanded across the nation
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And then around the world.
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Messages of healing, hope, and salvation
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Went across the airwaves to millions of people,
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And many heard the news of god's love for them
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For the very first time.
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Through the work of the holy spirit,
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Mass media was transformed
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Into a life-changing message just for them.
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(gentle music)
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- i was what the earth would consider very successful,
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From the outside.
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I ate a lot of food, but i never fed my soul.
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And i would use my wealth and status and success
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To cover what was missing inside of me.
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- wow. - so my mother,
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Who was my everything, still is my everything,
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She got sick, and it was devastating for me.
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So in a nutshell, when she ended up passing away,
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I just, for lack of a better term,
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I went off the rails for three months.
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I was going through a divorce,
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Made some very poor decisions,
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And had come to the conclusion
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That i was worth more dead than alive.
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So i do my thing, i visit the mountains,
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Do some things i want to do,
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And i get that out of the way so to speak,
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And get ready to kill myself with my 9 millimeter.
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And i'm just kind of-
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(dramatic music)
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- going through my life.
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The very first memory that came
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To mind was when i was five years old.
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I was a 5-year-old little boy
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And didn't really get a lot of quality
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Or one-on-one attention from my parents.
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The first memory that came
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To my mind was when a trusted family friend,
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Who's an older male,
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Paid some attention to me
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And in my little bitty five-year-old brain,
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It was wonderful.
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So i thought.
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And he said,
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"anthony, do you want to go to my secret special place?"
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I said, "that sounds, that sounds wonderful, yes."
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You know, what is this secret special place?
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So he said, "look, just follow me."
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He said, "there's no rules in the secret, special place."
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He said, "there's only one rule.
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You can't tell anyone about the secret special place,
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But you can do anything else you want in this place."
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So he proceeded to walk me to my father's office,
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And the secret special place was the closet
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That was on the right hand side of this room.
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And i'll never forget, it started very kind.
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He was very inquisitive on me wanting to,
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You know, asking, you know, questions about me,
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Complimenting me.
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And so i'm thinking, this is great.
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He even would have, you know, you hear about this in movies,
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Candy in this place.
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And so it started kind of very gradual, you know,
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Praising me, complimenting me.
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And then it started escalating.
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And he would say,
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"look, we can take our clothes off
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In this secret special place."
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And so he said, "look, see what it feels like."
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So he would take his shirt off.
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"go ahead, take yours off."
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And as i undressed myself,
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He kept complimenting me on how, you know,
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Good looking i was, and just, you know, laying it on thick.
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And in this moment i could, you know,
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I could sense something wasn't right.
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So as i sat on that couch in blue ridge,
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There was a feeling, and if i could bottle it
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And caption it, i would call it frozen.
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- [speaker] wow.
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- i almost felt frozen.
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So this is what was going on.
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The voices kept getting louder
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And louder and louder.
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And then i keep having these, you know, flashbacks
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And it gets to the point where i'm just looking
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To shut 'em off.
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I'm just, just want these voices to stop.
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So i grab the remote
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And turn on the television.
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So i'm sitting there, i turn on the tv,
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And when i look up,
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This guy was on the screen.
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I'm watching,
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And i mean, i'm like, this guy's talking to me.
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- [speaker] wow.
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- he's like, "i'm reaching out to you, child of god.
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I'm reaching out to you right now
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In your time of pain, your time of need."
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And he's saying, "the good lord's gonna send you,
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You know, what you need.
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And i pray right now
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That you put all the good things in your life
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And take out the bad things," and it keeps going.
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So i'm just, i don't know what's going on,
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But i'm just completely enamored at this point.
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So i throw my pistol down
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And for some reason i grabbed my cell phone
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And i just start recording it.
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I didn't know what was happening.
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I didn't have a relationship, like i said, with jesus.
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So i didn't know about the holy spirit.
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And so i'm just recording it.
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And dr. scott's on the screen
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And every time he started mentioning the
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Holy spirit in god,
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The whole room would light up.
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And so i'm capturing this
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And it just gets brighter and brighter.
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And it got to the point,
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I caught about two minutes.
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So i caught the second half of this on video.
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And it got to the point towards the end
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Where the holy spirit, it was so bright,
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I could barely see.
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And you could see in the video, i'm adjusting,
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I'm zooming in and out.
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'cause i'm trying to see,
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Am i seeing this right now, right?
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What am i seeing?
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And it saved my life.
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Tbn saved my life.
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- life.
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You saved my life.
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Oh, i wouldn't be here today.
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- god, yeah.
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- my kids wouldn't have fought without you.
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- he said, mrs. mckinnon, you have a brain aneurysm
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And you are going to die.
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- there was a lot of violence in my home,
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And that's all i knew.
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- he left us.
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And then you don't know how you're gonna feed those kids.
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- i felt so hopeless and so alone.
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I just tried to drown the pain of losing my father.
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(upbeat music)
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- and someone sent me a clip from tbn.
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Finding tbn was like a refuge, it was like a lifeboat.
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- i hear this message that there's a god that loves me
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And there's a god that knows exactly what i'm going through.
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- the programs on tbn was telling me that i'm saved,
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That i'm chosen, that i'm blessed, that i'm free already.
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- it gave me the ability to know i have
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To get up from here and go on.
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(bright upbeat music continues)
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- [announcer] it meant the world to me.
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(bright upbeat music)
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- every good story needs to start
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With kind of some kind of inciting incident.
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- my mother would marry six times.
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I went to 14 schools, lived in 17 different houses.
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My mom ended up marrying six times.
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I went to 14 different schools,
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Lived in 17 different houses.
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But i'll tell you right now,
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My life radically changed when i was about five years old.
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'cause i was playing out in the country.
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It was actually over in mississippi
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And in between two chicken houses, this guy comes up to me,
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He says, hey, come here.
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I wanna show you something.
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And he wanted to take me into this small building
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Where they separate the eggs
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And the chickens and there's a cooler now
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But we kids never supposed to go in there.
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But he acted real nice.
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He's like, come on, i wanna show you something.
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So i followed him in there and as soon as we go in,
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He shuts and he locks the door.
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And then it all changed.
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He was a child molester.
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(bright upbeat music)
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- how'd you find jesus?
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Let's get to that part.
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- yeah, i was in the corps and it was six months
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Before i got out the marines.
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My biological dad, who i'd met a couple of times,
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But last i knew of him, he was a practicing warlock.
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- wow. - yeah.
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And he sends me a letter that i still have
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To this day and he says, dear son.
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And it made me mad reading that.
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And some people watch it know exactly what i mean.
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It's like, don't call me your son.
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- there's no way, no way that kid could ever forgive me
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'cause i mean, you know,
00:36:14.384 --> 00:36:16.319
Your mama tells you your dad daddy's a killer.
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He's word pimp, criminal and all that kind of stuff.
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The boy didn't like me too much, jesus.
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And i don't know what possessed me to do it,
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But i wrote him a letter, you know,
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I thought, you know, you gonna think i'm crazy and i am.
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- and it wasn't until that letter that my dad sent
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And he says, i know you think i'm crazy,
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But this time i'm crazy for jesus christ.
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This man says he came to faith and i couldn't believe it.
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And he invited me to church.
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And we go, we're sitting there,
00:36:50.153 --> 00:36:52.088
There was some pentecostal church in louisiana.
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And i remember hearing the message,
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But it was the worship music and these men worshiping god.
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- wow. - and i'm like,
00:37:02.699 --> 00:37:03.967
(bright upbeat music continues)
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I don't wanna lift my hands, i don't, ugh.
00:37:06.169 --> 00:37:09.072
And i felt god's spirit convict me of my sin.
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But then at the same time, tell me he loves me.
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And he kept, he just kept telling me he loved me.
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And i've never felt love in my life, that's the truth.
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No one feels love like that when god touches you.
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- it's my friend victor marx
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- good to be here, brother, yeah, good.
00:37:32.696 --> 00:37:34.364
- so we're on radio stations across the country,
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Podcasting, live stream and all this.
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So we've done a couple deals together,
00:37:38.435 --> 00:37:40.170
But why don't you reintroduce yourself.
00:37:40.170 --> 00:37:42.172
- sure. - to our audience.
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Tell us about yourself.
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- well, it's, i had an organization that primarily,
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The easiest way to say it is we set captives free,
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Both physically, those who have been trafficked
00:37:52.549 --> 00:37:54.851
Or abused, those who've been affected by pedophiles,
00:37:54.851 --> 00:37:58.488
Both in the u.s, overseas, middle east,
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Southeast asia, south of the border.
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And then we help people with trauma, people who've suffered
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Or been traumatized all across the board.
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And the final thing is, spiritually we help people
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Who are held captive in darkness
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Or oppressed by darkness, get them free.
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- hi, my name is sarah.
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(sara and leola speaking in foreign language)
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(child speaking in foreign language)
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We are deep in mosul.
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You can see the destruction. we went in deep.
00:38:46.369 --> 00:38:48.605
And this mission is an orphan baby boy that needs help.
00:38:48.605 --> 00:38:53.943
- [host] marx and his team moved across town to meet
00:38:55.011 --> 00:38:56.579
With lanmo sanju, leader of the infamous 400 mawozo gang,
00:38:56.579 --> 00:39:00.383
Famous for kidnapping 17 american missionaries.
00:39:00.383 --> 00:39:03.219
- listen, we just took in two little girls,
00:39:03.219 --> 00:39:05.755
Two sisters into one of our safe houses.
00:39:05.755 --> 00:39:08.191
They told us they'd never slept on any bed.
00:39:08.191 --> 00:39:11.327
(child laughing)
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- this is fbr mission in syria.
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So we just wanted to say, victor marx,
00:39:14.063 --> 00:39:16.666
(speaking in foreign language)
00:39:16.666 --> 00:39:18.401
- [children] thank you!
00:39:18.401 --> 00:39:20.403
(child speaking in foreign language)
00:39:20.403 --> 00:39:27.010
(child speaking in foreign language)
00:39:27.811 --> 00:39:38.388
- so, we prayed, and we've asked y'all to pray.
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We couldn't give all the details,
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But here's the result of your prayers.
00:39:43.393 --> 00:39:46.229
This little boy's name is now ali. ali.
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And victor marks here. god bless you.
00:39:51.601 --> 00:39:54.237
(solemn piano music ends)
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♪ i'm at the end of myself and i ♪
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(audience applauding and cheering)
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♪ i'm tired and i've tried all
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♪ that i know to do
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♪ and right now, it's just by a thread ♪
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♪ but i'm, i'm hanging onto you ♪
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♪ i'm running outta hope
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♪ i need a miracle
00:40:18.261 --> 00:40:20.797
♪ and if i ever needed you, it's right now ♪
00:40:20.797 --> 00:40:24.734
♪ oh, god, i'm desperate
00:40:24.734 --> 00:40:27.337
♪ i'm down on my knees
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♪ send help from heaven
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♪ 'cause that's what i need
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♪ redeem this wreckage
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♪ restore my peace
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♪ i'm not asking, i'm begging
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♪ lord, come through for me
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♪ i need heaven and i'm
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♪ desperate
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♪ oh, i need heaven
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♪ need heaven and i'm
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- i crawled into a bathroom on my hands and knees
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And started yelling at god.
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Did not know he existed.
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And god saved me in that bathroom, november, 2003.
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- i went into a dark, empty church one afternoon
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And said, "god, i don't even know if you're there,
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But i need help."
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And he showed up.
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- yeah. yeah. that's what he does. you admit you need help.
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And god showed up.
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♪ oh, god, i'm desperate
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♪ i'm down on my knees
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♪ send help from heaven
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♪ 'cause that's what i need
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♪ and redeem this wreckage
00:41:28.932 --> 00:41:31.467
♪ restore my peace
00:41:31.467 --> 00:41:33.403
♪ i'm not asking, i'm begging
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♪ lord, come through for me
00:41:36.105 --> 00:41:38.508
♪ i need heaven and i'm
00:41:38.508 --> 00:41:41.678
♪ desperate
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♪ desperate
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♪ oh, i need heaven
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♪ need heaven and i'm
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- it's an invitation for you not to have to strive
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For perfection or performance.
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Can you come away and rest?
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Put your head on jesus' shoulder
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And already know you're already seen as beloved.
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- you get yourself right. god given you a promise.
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When certain conditions are right in your own life,
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He'll show up.
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♪ oh, god, i'm desperate
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♪ i'm down on my knees
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♪ send help from heaven
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♪ 'cause that's what i need
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♪ redeem this wreckage
00:42:22.952 --> 00:42:25.521
♪ restore my peace
00:42:25.521 --> 00:42:27.657
♪ i'm not asking, i'm begging
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♪ lord, come through for me
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♪ i need heaven and i'm
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♪ desperate, oh
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♪ i'm desperate
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♪ oh, i need heaven
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♪ i need heaven and i'm
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♪ desperate, oh
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♪ i'm desperate
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♪ oh, i need heaven
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♪ i need heaven and i'm
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♪ desperate
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(crowd cheering and applauding)
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- [host] welcome to a new age for america.
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Over my left shoulder, you see the us capitol.
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I am in washington dc on this inauguration day, 2025.
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- we will not forget our country.
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We will not forget our constitution,
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And we will not forget our god.
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(politicians applauding)
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- you think one reason you're resonating
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With so many americans
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Is that you do restore a sense of security.
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You've said, "you'll make america safe again."
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- well, safe is very important
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Because you look at our cities in particular, they're going.
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- nobody's ever seen anything like it.
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Chicago, new york, los angeles, oakland, california.
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It's not even like it's a city.
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- you've led the fight to revoke the visas
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Of these pro-hamas supporters on college campuses
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Like columbia university.
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- i did go to columbia at the height of the first big rise
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Of antisemitism, when they were having the violent crowd,
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The mobs on the campus.
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You could see the hatred, you could feel it there.
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You know, the veins were sticking out of the necks
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Of these people screaming profanities at us.
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- i'm erick stakelbeck, and this is a tbn special report,
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"israel at war."
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The iranian broad just today followed one of the most daring
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And stunning military operations in israel's history.
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Can you talk about operation rising lion in june?
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The decision to launch this historic operation.
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How close, mr. prime minister,
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Was the iranian regime to the bomb?
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- well, i can say it was very close.
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They had a plan to destroy.
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- [erick] what's your assessment of iran right now,
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Where they're at, and the lifespan of this evil regime?
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- so, i don't believe that iran's regime
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Is going to survive
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The three and a half years of trump's presidency.
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- you would think after october 7th,
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People would get behind israel and the jewish people.
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And in many cases, we've seen the opposite,
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In particular on american college campuses.
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(dramatic music)
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- coming to you with heartbreaking news.
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Our beloved charlie kirk, had a show here on tbn,
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Is home with jesus.
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(soft dramatic music)
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- please, explain to everyone out here
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What jesus stood for, and especially the qualities of love.
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How to love your neighbor even if they don't agree with you.
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- so, what is your name again?
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- talise.
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- talise, that's a beautiful question.
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I'm glad you came up to ask it.
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So john 8, if i'm drawing from memory correctly,
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Best embodies both christ's mercy and love,
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But also his commitment to truth.
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And sometimes in the modern gospel,
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We overemphasize the grace and we underemphasize the truth.
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- yeah.
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- and so we are far too willing to say,
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"hey, jesus loves everybody,"
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But we don't get to the second part of the conversation
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That says, "jesus doesn't want you to live in sin."
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So, in john 8 it's best embodied. right?
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Almost every christian in this audience will be able
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To tell you the first part of this,
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Which is a bunch of sadducees and pharisees
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Are standing around with rocks
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And they're about to stone the prostitute woman.
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And jesus comes up and says,
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"let the first among you without sin cast the first stone."
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And everyone starts dropping the rocks.
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But what comes next shows that christ
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Is not just grace-focused,
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He's simultaneously truth-focused.
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He goes up to the woman who had a career
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In selling herself for sex and said, "sin no more."
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Now, imagine today how much trouble you would get in
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If you would go up to somebody and say, "stop sinning."
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"no, you're being too judgmental."
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No, no, you're actually being christlike.
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So jesus stood, he was 100% grace and truth.
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And that tension is very hard in the modern world,
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Because we want to overemphasize grace
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When in reality christ loves us too much
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To have us continue to live in sin.
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He wants us to try to elevate our actions
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To glorify god in all that we do.
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(soft dramatic music)
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- my husband, charlie, he wanted to save young men
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Just like the one who took his life.
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That man.
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(soft dramatic music)
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That young man...
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(soft dramatic music)
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I forgive him.
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(soft dramatic music)
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- [charlie] romans 12:2 verse, that god will use all things,
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All things, for good, for those who love him.
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It's bigger than you.
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I want you to remember it is bigger than you.
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It's bigger than me.
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You are here to make somebody else's life better.
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The pursuit of liberty and freedom.
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Take that leap of faith, stay involved,
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Trust god, and act obediently.
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(dramatic music)
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- this is a promise of being delivered
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From the wrath to come right there.
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It's a promise of the rapture.
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- rapture. - rapture.
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- rapture.
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- wait. why plan for the future?
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Why worry about anything? 'cause the lord's coming back.
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- we've had...
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Okay, there are going to be wars and rumors of wars.
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There are going to be famines.
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There are going to be terrible times.
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There'll be days of distress. there'll be false messiahs.
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We're all scared 'cause we don't know
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What on earth's going to happen next.
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And so it's very difficult for people
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In the rest of the world to understand
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Where americans are coming from.
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And that's not surprising, because the narrative
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That so many americans have got in their heads
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From "late great planet earth" or wherever
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Is simply not in the bible.
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- the vast majority of news that comes in is bad news.
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It's very easy to build on that
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And think, "the bible's right, it's all going downhill."
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- life can get hard at times
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And it's like, "get me out of here."
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- [narrator] for generations,
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This thinking hasn't just shaped
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How christians read the bible.
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It shaped how we...
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- [narrator] see the world and our place in it,
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Or not in it, as is often the case.
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And though it may have helped fuel the fires of evangelism,
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Its fruit is clearly not without thorns.
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Do we invest in the world and build for tomorrow
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Or wait for jesus to come and fix it all?
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Is the kingdom of god here now or in the future?
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- and then you start thinking,
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But jesus said when he came, "thy kingdom come.
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Thy will be done here, on earth,
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As it is in heaven."
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- yeah. - did he take that
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Back with him?
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- jesus is lord.
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He is the king of god's kingdom
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And that we should expect his kingdom to increase.
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- jesus christ, the king, has a kingdom on this earth.
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I'm a part of it and i'm a part of extending it
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And expanding it.
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- and if you're breathing today, you're alive today,
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You know jesus, you have an assignment.
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- and that's what we christians are called to do
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Is to advance the kingdom.
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- let me set the stage for you in 1971.
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The hippie movement had happened.
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There was a war in vietnam that people were protesting.
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A sexual revolution was launched.
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At the same time, the overarching background of it
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Was the cold war with the soviet union.
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And so everybody was anticipating
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An imminent possible global nuclear war.
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(bomb thundering)
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In that context, i'm also a kid.
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I'm learning about god and jesus and the bible.
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A well-meaning sunday school teacher introduced us
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To hal lindsey's book "the late great planet earth,"
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Which came out around 1970 and became a wild,
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Huge international bestseller.
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Says that basically we are to expect this.
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The world is supposed to get worse and worse.
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It's gonna get darker and darker.
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But then right when at the very, very last moment,
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As it's super dark, jesus is gonna come back
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And set everything right.
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(gentle music)
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- somehow it was associated with it's gonna be sudden,
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It's gonna be probably like midnight.
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You're not gonna be ready.
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Somehow living a life of deep sin at 10 or 11 years old,
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(laughing) i was never feeling like i was gonna be ready.
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It seemed like the message was designed
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By a torturous god to catch the most of us off-guard
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As possible, take the fewest with him,
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And the rest of us go to hell.
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That was my take.
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And as i've talked to people,
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That was the take of a lotta folks.
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There was not a lotta hope and optimism.
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- when we understand that my hope is not to escape here
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And go somewhere else,
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But to be part of god's whole new creation,
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And when we understand that that's already begun
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By the work of the spirit in my life, in my heart,
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Then i have both incentive and motive
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And, please god, strength to start living like that.
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- what i realized is that every major character
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In the old testament, from abraham to moses to joseph
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To daniel, were god's men,
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But god would put them in a place of tremendous influence,
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Right in the ear of the pharaoh or the king
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Or those in charge,
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To impact it for good and for god's will.
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I became convinced that the idea of hiding from it
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Until it happened, hiding from the world
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And waiting for jesus to come, was not god's will.
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That he always put his men and women in great places
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Of influence to impact outcome.
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I wanted to do that.
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(dramatic music)
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- because of my love of church history,
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I was immediately drawn back to the leaders in history
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That i already knew about,
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But i didn't know what they thought about this subject,
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About the end times.
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So i went back to the church leaders
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That i learned about in seminary
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And oriented my study toward, what did they believe?
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Our church fathers, for the first 1,800 years at least,
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Had a victorious view, meaning that they believed
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That once jesus planted the church 2,000 years ago,
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It was gonna rise up in victory
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And be victorious and glorious and united.
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- happily, we understand a lot more about the bible now
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Because of massive researches that have happened
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Over the last 100 years.
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And i think it's time to get back on track.
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- part of the expanding of the kingdom
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Is us realizing not things that weren't true in the past.
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No, we're simply discovering things that were written
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In the scripture, but we didn't see 'em the same way.
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We're suddenly realizing, oh, that's what that means.
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- i saw the bible telling a story of jesus coming
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In fulfillment of all testament.
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- the sea,
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And establishing something in the earth
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That was designed to be victorious.
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So many scriptures began to snap into focus to me,
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Scriptures that until i'd seen them, i just...
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My eyes kind of glazed over when i read them
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'cause they did not compute,
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They didn't mean anything to me.
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But then i began to see and embrace a different story
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For the history of jesus's body in the earth.
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- the kingdom of god was not just a future event
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Like i had been taught in my dispensational theology,
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But that it actually started 2,000 years ago
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When jesus ascended into heaven and sat on his throne.
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So, not only did jesus rule in heaven,
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But i became convinced
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That his reign is on the earth growing as seeds in the soil.
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Like many of jesus' parables explain,
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They start with few seeds
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And get bigger, and bigger, and bigger,
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Still believing that jesus will return
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And he will ultimately put an end to all evil.
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- we don't bring the kingdom by our own efforts.
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God brings god's kingdom in god's way.
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We build for the kingdom.
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We are called to do things in the present time,
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Which are both signposts towards the eventual kingdom
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And also genuine anticipations of that kingdom.
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♪ in the darkness we were waiting ♪
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♪ without hope, without light
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♪ 'til from heaven you came running ♪
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♪ there was mercy in your eyes
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♪ to fulfill the law and prophets ♪
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♪ to a virgin came the word
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♪ from a throne of endless glory ♪
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♪ to a cradle in the dirt
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("king of kings")
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♪ praise the father
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♪ praise the son
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♪ praise the spirit
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♪ three in one
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♪ god of glory
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♪ majesty
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♪ praise forever to the king of kings ♪
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- we are spreaders of good news,
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And that's my invitation.
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To be saved is not you don't want to go to hell.
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That's a good initiative,
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But it's not as good as join a kingdom where jesus is king.
00:56:07.543 --> 00:56:12.548
- and that's what we, christians, are called to do,
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Is to advance the kingdom.
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God's will reign and rule in every aspect of their life
00:56:17.786 --> 00:56:22.324
And society that god leads them into.
00:56:22.324 --> 00:56:25.461
But whatever the lord has ordained for us,
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Wouldn't we wanna live that to the fullest?
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♪ praise the father
00:56:33.302 --> 00:56:36.839
♪ praise the son
00:56:36.839 --> 00:56:40.242
♪ praise the spirit
00:56:40.242 --> 00:56:44.012
♪ three in one
00:56:44.012 --> 00:56:47.483
♪ god of glory
00:56:47.483 --> 00:56:51.019
♪ majesty
00:56:51.019 --> 00:56:54.456
♪ praise forever to the king of kings ♪
00:56:54.456 --> 00:57:05.501
- the reason i think all of this or any of this matters
00:57:06.635 --> 00:57:08.971
Is because it's what god wants us to be today.
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Who are you today?
00:57:12.207 --> 00:57:14.076
He wants me to be busy about the father's business.
00:57:14.076 --> 00:57:17.679
Walk in the anointing,
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Build the businesses i've called you to build,
00:57:19.147 --> 00:57:22.017
Establish the churches,
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Find a revelation that changes your life
00:57:23.886 --> 00:57:26.722
And share it with the world.
00:57:26.722 --> 00:57:28.824
Literally go and evangelize and become the body of christ.
00:57:28.824 --> 00:57:34.029
We really are the body of christ.
00:57:34.763 --> 00:57:35.697
What does this all mean?
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It means what the angel said.
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Don't stand here and gaze up.
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Go and do what i've called you to do.
00:57:40.369 --> 00:57:42.004
♪ gospel truth of old
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♪ shall not kneel, shall not faint ♪
00:57:44.473 --> 00:57:48.277
♪ by his blood and in his name
00:57:48.277 --> 00:57:51.880
♪ in his freedom i am free
00:57:51.880 --> 00:57:55.284
♪ for the love of jesus christ
00:57:55.284 --> 00:57:58.921
♪ who has resurrected me
00:57:58.921 --> 00:58:03.058
- holy praise, come on!
00:58:03.058 --> 00:58:08.163
♪ praise the father
00:58:08.664 --> 00:58:12.334
♪ praise the son
00:58:12.334 --> 00:58:15.637
♪ praise the spirit
00:58:15.637 --> 00:58:19.274
♪ three in one
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- i'm here, like, square your shoulders, lift up your chin.
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We are the glorious church in the body of christ,
00:58:25.180 --> 00:58:28.517
And he is the king.
00:58:28.517 --> 00:58:30.018
♪ praise forever to the king of kings ♪
00:58:30.018 --> 00:58:36.058
♪ praise forever to the king of kings ♪
00:58:36.925 --> 00:58:45.300
(audience cheering and applauding)
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