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| Beyond a Billion: Reaching the Ends of the Earth | February 20, 2026
- Coming up tonight on entrees.
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- It is 1,000% something that god has done.
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- I often tell people
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- If you used a group of people
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- From silicon valley to create the bible app,
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- People would have said, that makes sense.
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- But the fact that he used a church in oklahoma
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- To do it is, i think, for one important purpose.
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- And that is it doesn't make sense.
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- Praise comes to you today
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- With the word billion in it for some reason.
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- Not just a billion, but beyond a billion.
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- Our guest, bobby grunwald,
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- All one, our.
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- I want you to kind of look, at this,
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- And then we're going to unpack a story for you
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- That you're not going to want to miss.
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- Watch this.
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- All of us are here together to celebrate the word of god.
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- It's not just pages in pixels.
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- It's a person that we're celebrating tonight.
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- His name is jesus.
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- To a priest.
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- Come on. is anybody thankful for jesus?
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- This is the word of god.
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- This unshakable,
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- Unmovable, unbreakable sounding doctrine for us.
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- He reaches the world.
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- And yet he still chases after the one.
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- And by the unmerited favor of.
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- God, you're made right with god by the grace of god.
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- When we get to heaven, we're. going to be worshiping.
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- We're going to be falling more in love with our creator.
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- This is the day that the lord has made,
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- And i'm grateful to be alive and living in it.
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- Come on.
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- There is nothing
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- More important on the earth, and the word of god.
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- And everything we do is designed to help people
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- Read, understand and love the bible.
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- And that's what we're celebrating today.
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- This word, once again, is going to go forth into this
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- Next generation.
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- Bobby grunwald,
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- My app,
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- The youversion, was open today when i just kind of got on set
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- And i opened it up.
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- It was opened up to psalm 110 and,
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- I learned something through your app that i believe.
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- I hope it's accurate.
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- That psalm 110 is the most quoted
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- Psalm of the new testament.
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- How do i know that?
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- Because i have a bible on my phone
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- And it is called youversion and bobby, you're,
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- Man, we, we have to unpack a story here.
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- We just saw the finish line beyond a billion.
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- There is, the the body of christ is connected globally through
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- Something that really needs a really good set up.
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- Can you take us back all the way back
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- In the wayback machine and give us kind of a barbecue?
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- What? how far back do you want me to go?
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- Well, i don't need you in toddler in diapers, but,
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- But let's start.
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- Let's start kind of where you and technology
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- Maybe started emerging.
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- Kind of an interesting story. yeah.
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- As you were sitting in the back of a car dealership,
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- Somewhere in illinois.
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- Yeah.
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- Well, it was actually, it was in oklahoma,
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- But when i, when i, went to college
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- And i live in oklahoma
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- Today, and i grew up in illinois,
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- But moved to oklahoma for college.
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- And while i was in college, i needed a job to make,
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- That money really is what i needed.
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- So it was, $6 an hour, and i
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- Was working in the back office of a local car dealership, and
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- I was really bored.
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- It was one of these jobs
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- We'd get done
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- With everything that you needed to do
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- And then just have nothing to do.
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- So i started listening in to conversations
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- That were happening in the back of the car dealership.
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- And one day this group from california came in.
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- It was in 1995, okay.
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- And they came in proposing
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- To build a website for the car dealership.
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- In 95 and.
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- 95, which was pretty early.
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- And and i don't i think they wanted $2,200.
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- I was kind of listening to the conversation
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- Plus some monthly amount, and it was like a template website.
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- You know, all the car dealers
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- Are going to have a similar type website,
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- And i don't know if the owner was going to go for it or not.
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- But i walked up to him after the meeting and i just said, mr.
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- Bailey, if it's if you'll let me build
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- A website for you, i'll do it for $100.
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- And he just like looked at me like, sure.
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- Well, the problem
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- Was, is i actually had no idea how to build a website.
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- I just, i just wanted the challenge.
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- I wanted the challenge of it. yeah.
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- But in fact, back then, in 95,
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- There were not books on how to build websites.
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- There were not even websites on how to build websites.
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- Days of maybe aol
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- And yeah, what what are the basic.
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- Aol existed and then you had.
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- Myspace? no, not.
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- Long before that.
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- Yeah.
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- No, i think it was before the netscape browser.
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- The netscape browser was like
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- One of the first browsers everybody knew about.
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- This was like before that there was something.
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- Yeah, it was really early on.
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- And and so i didn't i mean, i'd love a challenge,
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- But i went in around our dorm and i found a couple of guys
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- That were sort of
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- In the internet underground and talked to them about,
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- You know, like, how do you build a website?
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- And so they gave me
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- And gave me some instructions, and i worked on it,
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- Came back to the to mr.
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- Bailey and said, here's the website.
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- And he liked it,
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- But i said, i don't think you're going
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- To sell cars in 1995 on the internet.
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- I do think you could sell parts and accessories.
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- And i knew the margins that they had were huge.
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- And so i said, why don't we just create a website?
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- And we called it honda parts.com,
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- And we sold honda car parts out of the back of this
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- Car dealership.
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- And within a few months, they were selling hundreds
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- Of thousands of dollars and car parts and accessories.
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- I was still getting paid $6 an hour.
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- Oh no.
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- But but loved it though, because i
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- Actually had a challenge and it was a fun job.
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- And then one day, mr.
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- Bailey calls me into his office,
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- And he was a christian businessman.
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- And i remember sitting across the desk from.
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- Because i was a bit intimidated.
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- I'd not been summoned to the office before,
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- So i didn't know if i was in trouble or what.
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- And he said, what do you plan on doing in life?
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- And before i could even answer, he said, whatever it is
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- That you're going to do, i want to invest in it.
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- My goodness.
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- And it was just one of these moments.
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- I've had him,
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- You know, a handful of times in my life
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- Where you just recognize
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- That god's doing something completely unexpected.
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- And, i didn't know what to say.
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- I told him
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- I would think about it and i would then pray about it.
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- And i prayed about it.
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- I was like, god, is this one of those opportunities?
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- Am i supposed to step into this? i was a finance major.
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- I was planning on
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- On doing investment banking or financial planning
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- Or something in that whole space.
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- I never thought about being an entrepreneur.
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- I never had a model of it in my life.
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- My parents weren't entrepreneurs, didn't have any
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- Uncles or anybody that were entrepreneurs.
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- So but he saw something in me that i didn't
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- Know was in me and i felt like was god's direction.
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- So i put together a business plan,
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- Created what's called a web hosting company.
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- In the process of building the website for him,
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- I realized you have to have
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- Places to servers
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- To put these on and, host the website on the internet.
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- So i thought, people are going to need web hosting.
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- And there were very few
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- Companies in the world focused on web hosting.
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- I think we were one of the first 20 in the world.
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- And, so mr.
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- Bailey is our first investor.
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- He had another friend that was also an investor,
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- And we were full time college students.
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- We still had no idea what we were doing.
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- I brought a few friends in with me into it, and it was,
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- 24 over seven operation clients and we had 33 countries.
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- It grew really fast,
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- And we were providing tech support to japan
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- In the middle of the night and just all kinds of chaos.
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- And a lot of fun and a lot of learning, you know, from it.
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- But that was the first business we sold that,
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- That would have been in 98 when we sold it
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- And started another company
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- That acquired, the largest professional wrestling website.
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- Okay.
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- Which is where we became friends.
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- I used to shoot all the commercials for hulk
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- Hogan and mr.
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- T for wrestlemania back in the day.
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- And so you were involved in wrestling in a strange way.
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- Briefly. briefly.
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- Yeah, it was 98 till the end of 99 or early 2000.
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- And i thought, you know, god's given me favor in this space.
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- Like i have the ability.
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- I didn't even know that i had the ability.
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- I had the ability to start companies sell companies,
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- Grow, even grow companies in the middle of that.
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- And, and i thought, this must be what i'm designed to do.
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- And maybe my contribution to the kingdom
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- Is to be to finance ministry
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- Or to be a financial contributor,
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- That maybe that's what god designed me to do,
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- Which is really bizarre,
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- Since i didn't grow up in a family
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- That had those kind of resources
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- And and i didn't think that way.
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- But god had a different plan for me because,
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- In the middle of that
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- Second company, my wife and i started
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- Attending a church called life church.
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- Craig, rochelle, craig and amy rochelle started it.
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- It was, just a small new church, but growing really quickly.
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- And, today it's a multi-site church in many states.
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- But at that time, it was just one location.
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- Fell in love.
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- We fell in love with the church on the first day.
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- Wanted to get involved.
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- I, i,
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- We joined a small group in the small group
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- Was the worship leader for the church,
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- And he found out that i played keyboard,
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- Back from, from a previous experience i had in the past.
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- Okay, okay.
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- You got to slow down right there.
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- Okay.
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- Hit lori with
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- The thing that you hit me with earlier,
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- That you were doing kind of during college.
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- Okay. it was right.
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- It was high school ready, never going to high school.
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- I, when i got saved, was right before high school,
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- And i wanted to reach my friends.
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- And so i thought, none of my friends
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- Are going to listen to me tell them about jesus.
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- But all of my friends listened to rap music,
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- So i thought i should write a rap song
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- To try to reach my friends. and.
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- And then i became mc.
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- I became a christian rapper for the next five years and so.
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- Oh, you're.
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- Oh, you're trying to. yeah.
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- Hit it with music. okay, here we go.
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- Okay, let's let's let's let's let's hear it.
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- Hit it with a little song.
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- Oh, you want me to be over there right now?
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- Yeah.
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- This is pretty slow.
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- Go over.
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- Oh, give me a minute.
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- And i'll move.
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- I'll try to go. this is, let's.
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- All right, here we go.
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- Well, i'm not on a mission.
- 00:10:45.801 --> 00:10:47.503
- The crust, the oceans of sudden,
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- The world around me see my devotion to christ.
- 00:10:49.371 --> 00:10:52.274
- You see, it's not what. i say.
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- But it's how i walk and live my life every day.
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- Because i'm on a mission in my fields right here.
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- Spiderman.
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- The truth to your ear. saddam.
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- Just to all the words.
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- But listen to my heart,
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- Because we've got to start showing the hope of the love
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- Of jesus christ by each and every day with me.
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- Love.
- 00:11:13.162 --> 00:11:14.430
- And i, like so many people, is searching for the truth, but
- 00:11:14.430 --> 00:11:16.499
- They never find it cause we had inside of us.
- 00:11:16.499 --> 00:11:19.668
- It's time to let your light shine out.
- 00:11:19.668 --> 00:11:22.471
- Because it's the love of jesus christ that it's all about.
- 00:11:22.471 --> 00:11:25.307
- So now if you've gone dim, it's time to get bright.
- 00:11:25.307 --> 00:11:28.244
- Because whoever finds god in you finds life.
- 00:11:28.244 --> 00:11:32.014
- And can you kind of do the pose at the end?
- 00:11:32.948 --> 00:11:35.518
- That kind of the. yeah, a little bit of the hit.
- 00:11:35.518 --> 00:11:38.254
- First of all, that that song is way faster than that.
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- Normally it's,
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- Well, we've
- 00:11:41.757 --> 00:11:42.691
- We knew you were a little older though,
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- So you needed to kind of slow it down and kind of
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- So the audience could understand the word.
- 00:11:46.629 --> 00:11:49.231
- Yeah. good answer. yeah. there you go.
- 00:11:49.231 --> 00:11:51.367
- You should be able to understand all those words.
- 00:11:51.367 --> 00:11:53.269
- That's the world right. away here on youtube right now.
- 00:11:53.269 --> 00:11:55.671
- And this viral clip is going viral right now. perfect.
- 00:11:55.671 --> 00:11:58.607
- Perfect. yeah. love it.
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- So pick up the story
- 00:11:59.909 --> 00:12:01.610
- After wrapping and the entire crew career was.
- 00:12:01.610 --> 00:12:05.548
- A bit of a distraction, but no, the,
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- Yes, i, i played keyboard and one of my musical talents.
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- So the they said, could you play keyboard
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- On the worship team at the church?
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- And, and so i said, sure.
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- And, and our church was growing.
- 00:12:18.060 --> 00:12:20.529
- We ended up having
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- Two saturday night services for sunday morning services.
- 00:12:21.697 --> 00:12:25.534
- So six times a weekend i would play keyboard
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- On the worship team
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- And loved it like i was serving at the church.
- 00:12:30.539 --> 00:12:33.209
- I mean, as full time entrepreneur,
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- As you know, being an entrepreneur
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- Is not a not an easy task and it's a lot of hours.
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- But then it didn't bother me on the weekend.
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- I would just come in
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- And just observe the church the entire time.
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- So we fast forward and we we sell the company.
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- Later that year, after we had we had joined the church.
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- And and we're talking
- 00:12:51.293 --> 00:12:52.394
- That was a sizable company and that was a sizable sale.
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- And that made the newspaper headlines.
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- And i mean, as a.
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- It had me on the front page of the paper
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- And it was, you know,
- 00:13:01.804 --> 00:13:03.772
- A multimillion dollar sale of this company.
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- And so, the executive pastor at the church,
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- His name is jerry hurley,
- 00:13:10.412 --> 00:13:12.114
- Still still one of the leaders there at the church.
- 00:13:12.114 --> 00:13:14.516
- He reached out to me and or first of all,
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- He saw the article and he said, isn't
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- That the guy that plays keyboard on the worship team?
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- Because. wait a second.
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- Because, i never talked
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- About what i did in business at church.
- 00:13:26.462 --> 00:13:28.597
- It just never even crossed my mind.
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- It wasn't a point of conversation.
- 00:13:30.299 --> 00:13:31.967
- I was, you know, it's 23 years old, so people probably
- 00:13:31.967 --> 00:13:35.104
- Didn't even think that i did have a business at the time.
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- And, yeah, every part of a job maybe.
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- So he asked if i would be willing to go to lunch
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- With them, and i said, sure.
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- So i kind of thought that
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- He want to go to lunch to help me calculate
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- What 10% was on the number on the number that he saw.
- 00:13:51.287 --> 00:13:55.324
- Yeah, just in case i didn't know.
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- And honestly, you know, my wife and i, we've been together,
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- And we were we were. that was not a question.
- 00:14:01.196 --> 00:14:03.198
- There's no question about that.
- 00:14:03.198 --> 00:14:04.934
- But instead, that's not actually what i want.
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- What do you want to talk about?
- 00:14:06.502 --> 00:14:07.670
- Instead?
- 00:14:07.670 --> 00:14:08.704
- He just said, what do you plan on doing next?
- 00:14:08.704 --> 00:14:10.406
- I said, well, i plan on starting another company.
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- I mean, this feels like what god's designed me to do.
- 00:14:12.274 --> 00:14:14.877
- And he said,
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- Well, have you ever considered, like what you do in business,
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- Like using those gifts and those talents in the church?
- 00:14:19.248 --> 00:14:23.986
- And i was like, no, man, i've never considered it.
- 00:14:23.986 --> 00:14:26.555
- And he was like, well, would you consider it?
- 00:14:26.555 --> 00:14:28.924
- And said, no, because i love my church.
- 00:14:28.924 --> 00:14:34.163
- And i just thought if it became my job, i don't know.
- 00:14:34.163 --> 00:14:36.665
- I don't think it would be the same.
- 00:14:36.665 --> 00:14:38.467
- And also because i just had never connected those two things
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- Before, i mean, i
- 00:14:42.638 --> 00:14:44.473
- If anything, i felt like it was a one way street,
- 00:14:44.473 --> 00:14:46.575
- Like i would learn about how to be a better leader
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- Or about how to be a better follower of jesus at church.
- 00:14:50.279 --> 00:14:52.815
- And i would then
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- Take that into the workplace and hopefully implement that.
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- And apply it to how i treat people
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- And the team and all those things.
- 00:14:59.288 --> 00:15:01.190
- But i never actually thought that what i was doing
- 00:15:01.190 --> 00:15:02.992
- There would have implication or ministry, you know, use,
- 00:15:02.992 --> 00:15:07.162
- Until that
- 00:15:07.463 --> 00:15:08.464
- Lunch and that lunch connected the dots for me.
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- And so i said, well, how about i just volunteer my time
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- And help in other ways and even know that there
- 00:15:14.069 --> 00:15:16.205
- Is a place for it?
- 00:15:16.205 --> 00:15:17.439
- And as i begin to do that, it became a ten hour a week,
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- 20, 30, 40 hour a week volunteer position,
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- And about a year later, after doing a few other
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- Small things in business, i just became real parents.
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- And i was in the shower.
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- And i just remember
- 00:15:31.553 --> 00:15:33.122
- I was like, god,
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- This is another one of those moments
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- For you, for them, something unexpected.
- 00:15:34.890 --> 00:15:36.592
- I just really need to step into it.
- 00:15:36.592 --> 00:15:39.094
- And i felt like god said, yes,
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- This is exactly what i want you to do.
- 00:15:40.763 --> 00:15:43.365
- So when i know that god's,
- 00:15:43.932 --> 00:15:45.367
- It's god's direction, i don't have trouble obeying.
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- Like, when i know it.
- 00:15:48.337 --> 00:15:49.571
- You know, it's it's usually pretty easy because i've seen.
- 00:15:49.571 --> 00:15:52.341
- And even at that point, i had already seen what he does
- 00:15:52.341 --> 00:15:54.510
- When i step into the things that he, positions me for.
- 00:15:54.510 --> 00:15:58.313
- What hit me like a ton of bricks.
- 00:15:58.313 --> 00:16:00.382
- When we were discussing off camera
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- Is there could be a whole bunch of people
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- In your old mindset,
- 00:16:08.090 --> 00:16:11.293
- Or even the mindset
- 00:16:11.293 --> 00:16:12.494
- You brought to that lunch with a senior staff member
- 00:16:12.494 --> 00:16:16.999
- Who said, have you ever thought about having your talents work
- 00:16:16.999 --> 00:16:20.102
- Inside the church and flow through and out from the church?
- 00:16:20.102 --> 00:16:24.540
- Well, no, you hadn't.
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- Did we not understand the kingdom
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- Well enough to understand that the kingdom
- 00:16:30.145 --> 00:16:32.614
- Is really everything, and that we're trying to grow
- 00:16:32.614 --> 00:16:35.551
- The influence of the church inside?
- 00:16:35.551 --> 00:16:38.487
- Have we not had enough teaching?
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- What?
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- Why do you think you brought that mindset to that meeting
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- That now ultimately has completely changed?
- 00:16:45.794 --> 00:16:48.697
- I do think there are a lot of people in business
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- That struggle to understand.
- 00:16:51.800 --> 00:16:54.736
- They think that a kingdom impact would come from a vocational
- 00:16:54.736 --> 00:16:58.140
- Ministry role in the church, but they feel like
- 00:16:58.140 --> 00:17:00.976
- That's not designed for them.
- 00:17:00.976 --> 00:17:02.478
- It's not designed for their gifts.
- 00:17:02.478 --> 00:17:04.713
- In my particular case, god did actually lead me
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- On to staff at a church.
- 00:17:07.049 --> 00:17:08.784
- So that was the calling, the path he took me on.
- 00:17:08.784 --> 00:17:10.886
- He took me through business to that.
- 00:17:10.886 --> 00:17:13.789
- But i was already contributing those gifts as a volunteer,
- 00:17:13.789 --> 00:17:17.726
- You know, at the church
- 00:17:17.726 --> 00:17:18.861
- Prior to that, that him leading me that direction
- 00:17:18.861 --> 00:17:21.897
- For other people, though,
- 00:17:21.897 --> 00:17:23.031
- I and i know many of my friends that are in business,
- 00:17:23.031 --> 00:17:25.868
- God's called them into a particular place
- 00:17:25.868 --> 00:17:28.237
- In the business world with these unique gifts,
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- And they have an opportunity to actually use it
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- For kingdom purposes,
- 00:17:33.442 --> 00:17:35.244
- To kind of because that is part of the king.
- 00:17:35.244 --> 00:17:37.446
- They're part of the kingdom. they're not separate from it.
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- I think there's an intimidation factor.
- 00:17:41.016 --> 00:17:42.751
- Business leaders have a lot of times
- 00:17:42.751 --> 00:17:44.153
- When it comes to pastors or vocational,
- 00:17:44.153 --> 00:17:46.889
- You know, ministry roles, that they just think that pastors are
- 00:17:46.889 --> 00:17:50.826
- More spiritually intimidating to them sometimes.
- 00:17:50.826 --> 00:17:53.462
- And, and pastors sometimes think to reverse
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- And think that business leaders are better leaders and like,
- 00:17:56.732 --> 00:18:00.402
- They're almost be embarrassed to kind of talk about like,
- 00:18:00.402 --> 00:18:03.005
- I feel like inadequate to talk about the things
- 00:18:03.005 --> 00:18:05.207
- They like to talk about because i don't know.
- 00:18:05.207 --> 00:18:06.942
- So sometimes there becomes this,
- 00:18:06.942 --> 00:18:08.310
- Like almost communication barrier.
- 00:18:08.310 --> 00:18:10.846
- That's unnecessary
- 00:18:10.846 --> 00:18:12.614
- Because i think when everybody realizes
- 00:18:12.614 --> 00:18:14.349
- We all play these different parts
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- And there's so much that a business leader
- 00:18:16.118 --> 00:18:17.653
- Can contribute to the, the thinking, you know,
- 00:18:17.653 --> 00:18:20.789
- Even behind a church, or there's so many things that
- 00:18:20.789 --> 00:18:24.193
- Can happen in the church that can be, can be,
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- That a business leader
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- Can actually implement in his business,
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- Can use his business for kingdom purpose.
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- In terms of his perspective,
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- I think it'd be just a freeing thing for people
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- To realize that whatever it is that god's called
- 00:18:36.271 --> 00:18:38.040
- You to is the highest calling.
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- If he's called you to be the ceo of a company,
- 00:18:40.375 --> 00:18:42.544
- It's the highest calling. if he's called you to be
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- A teacher, it's the highest calling.
- 00:18:44.179 --> 00:18:46.348
- If you called to be a nurse and this sort of sense
- 00:18:46.348 --> 00:18:49.985
- That a higher spiritual calling
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- Would be someone that's a pastor,
- 00:18:51.720 --> 00:18:53.822
- Billy graham's calling isn't higher than the calling to
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- Someone that's called to be an entrepreneur.
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- Music
- 00:19:15.344 --> 00:21:47.529
- That picture way in the back is the only one we could find.
- 00:21:48.663 --> 00:21:52.000
- There's, you and craig in what would be the early days.
- 00:21:52.000 --> 00:21:56.838
- Craig's got a a flip phone in his hand.
- 00:21:56.838 --> 00:22:00.242
- And we also have a photo of you holding up a tiny iphone.
- 00:22:00.242 --> 00:22:04.413
- And it's currently on display at the museum of the bible.
- 00:22:04.413 --> 00:22:07.649
- Right.
- 00:22:07.649 --> 00:22:08.850
- You had it in your hand the other day for the big event
- 00:22:08.850 --> 00:22:11.453
- That you did, beyond a billion event.
- 00:22:11.453 --> 00:22:14.623
- And so if we go kind of from
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- What is day one of what we are
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- Now, getting to celebrate in the beyond a billion.
- 00:22:22.898 --> 00:22:26.668
- Yeah.
- 00:22:26.902 --> 00:22:27.803
- So the the initial idea for your version
- 00:22:27.803 --> 00:22:30.872
- Started in the airport security line in chicago.
- 00:22:30.872 --> 00:22:34.709
- Is the tsa line? of course.
- 00:22:35.310 --> 00:22:37.679
- Just, god uses all these kind of interesting places.
- 00:22:37.679 --> 00:22:41.049
- What year?
- 00:22:41.349 --> 00:22:42.284
- 2006, october 27th, 2006 for whatever is now.
- 00:22:42.284 --> 00:22:46.855
- I was distracted that day with just this thought of.
- 00:22:46.855 --> 00:22:50.125
- I wonder if there's a way to use
- 00:22:50.125 --> 00:22:51.226
- Technology to help me read the bible more consistently.
- 00:22:51.226 --> 00:22:55.263
- Even though i was on staff at the church at this point,
- 00:22:55.263 --> 00:22:57.933
- Like five years in that life church,
- 00:22:57.933 --> 00:23:01.203
- I felt like a very inconsistent bible reader,
- 00:23:01.203 --> 00:23:03.939
- And it was a bit of an embarrassment.
- 00:23:03.939 --> 00:23:05.707
- Maybe there's a way that technology
- 00:23:05.707 --> 00:23:07.142
- Could just be helpful to do it.
- 00:23:07.142 --> 00:23:08.844
- So there in the security line i had this idea
- 00:23:08.844 --> 00:23:11.513
- For for youversion is originally a website.
- 00:23:11.513 --> 00:23:14.216
- This predated apps.
- 00:23:14.216 --> 00:23:15.484
- This was, a couple of years before the app store came out.
- 00:23:15.484 --> 00:23:19.054
- Okay.
- 00:23:19.054 --> 00:23:20.155
- So there wasn't really a concept of mobile phone and
- 00:23:20.155 --> 00:23:22.791
- Phone apps.
- 00:23:22.791 --> 00:23:24.092
- But this website idea had
- 00:23:24.659 --> 00:23:26.094
- Some novel features, and i wanted to come up
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- With a name for it. so they're in the airport.
- 00:23:29.431 --> 00:23:32.033
- I'm an activator.
- 00:23:32.033 --> 00:23:32.801
- So in the airport
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- Between the security line and the gate,
- 00:23:33.735 --> 00:23:35.704
- The best name that i could come up with was youversion.
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- Okay.
- 00:23:38.540 --> 00:23:39.474
- And people say where the name come from.
- 00:23:39.474 --> 00:23:41.743
- There's the where the name come from
- 00:23:41.743 --> 00:23:42.878
- Is that literally came from like
- 00:23:42.878 --> 00:23:44.312
- 800ft of careful market research at the airport.
- 00:23:44.312 --> 00:23:47.482
- Just the best name i came up with at the day at that day.
- 00:23:47.482 --> 00:23:51.453
- So now i wish it was as easy as doing that.
- 00:23:51.453 --> 00:23:53.555
- And it's done.
- 00:23:53.555 --> 00:23:54.756
- But the reality is we had all kinds of obstacles
- 00:23:54.756 --> 00:23:57.692
- That we had to face
- 00:23:57.692 --> 00:23:58.927
- To even just be able to get this website launched in 2007.
- 00:23:58.927 --> 00:24:01.663
- So it was late 2006, 2007.
- 00:24:01.663 --> 00:24:04.599
- We decided we'd, you know, i have a lot of ideas.
- 00:24:04.599 --> 00:24:07.235
- We decided we'd actually try this and try to do it.
- 00:24:07.235 --> 00:24:10.338
- The first obstacle i encountered was that
- 00:24:10.338 --> 00:24:12.541
- We did not have access to the bible text
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- To be able to use on the website,
- 00:24:17.312 --> 00:24:19.114
- And the first obstacle was that i was so ignorant
- 00:24:19.114 --> 00:24:22.484
- That i didn't even know that people own the bible.
- 00:24:22.484 --> 00:24:24.786
- I thought that it was free
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- And like it's been around for thousands of years.
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- And of course,
- 00:24:29.858 --> 00:24:30.859
- I just didn't even comprehend the concept of
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- English translations and the cost involved in it.
- 00:24:33.128 --> 00:24:35.864
- And the publishers own the rights to make.
- 00:24:35.864 --> 00:24:38.233
- Me feel better. i've never thought of that.
- 00:24:38.233 --> 00:24:40.201
- Yeah, well, it just it's i mean, it
- 00:24:40.201 --> 00:24:42.871
- It's like in retrospect, it's common sense.
- 00:24:42.871 --> 00:24:45.307
- But at the time, i'm just like, i never thought about it. yeah.
- 00:24:45.307 --> 00:24:48.043
- We also felt like it need to be free for
- 00:24:48.043 --> 00:24:49.778
- The people were trying to reach, because at that point in time,
- 00:24:49.778 --> 00:24:53.315
- You had
- 00:24:53.582 --> 00:24:54.583
- You had a generation of people that couldn't
- 00:24:54.583 --> 00:24:55.650
- Fathom paying $0.99 for a song that they loved.
- 00:24:55.650 --> 00:25:00.021
- Right? yeah.
- 00:25:00.021 --> 00:25:00.722
- And you were asking them to pay
- 00:25:00.722 --> 00:25:02.691
- $25 for a digital copy of a book that they didn't understand.
- 00:25:02.691 --> 00:25:06.061
- And so we're just like,
- 00:25:06.061 --> 00:25:07.262
- This is we've got to figure out how to to have it be free.
- 00:25:07.262 --> 00:25:11.066
- So and the bigger problem was i noone had no relationships
- 00:25:11.066 --> 00:25:14.436
- With any of these publishers.
- 00:25:14.436 --> 00:25:15.570
- I had no credibility, no connections, no like,
- 00:25:15.570 --> 00:25:18.907
- Oh, i'll just call up so-and-so and have them help us.
- 00:25:18.907 --> 00:25:21.943
- So what i did was and in may,
- 00:25:22.577 --> 00:25:26.247
- I posted a blog post with just a picture
- 00:25:27.082 --> 00:25:30.752
- Of what the website was going to look like,
- 00:25:30.752 --> 00:25:33.088
- And i announced that the website's coming in september
- 00:25:33.088 --> 00:25:36.291
- And you could sign up to to get an early access to it.
- 00:25:36.291 --> 00:25:39.594
- And the teams looked at me like, what?
- 00:25:39.594 --> 00:25:40.929
- What are you what are you talking about?
- 00:25:40.929 --> 00:25:42.330
- I was like, well, we're going to have
- 00:25:42.330 --> 00:25:44.666
- People sign up to get early access.
- 00:25:44.666 --> 00:25:46.434
- And i was like, yeah, but we don't have any.
- 00:25:46.434 --> 00:25:47.836
- There's no website. like, we haven't built it.
- 00:25:47.836 --> 00:25:50.071
- There's what
- 00:25:50.071 --> 00:25:51.206
- I've embodied to build it like we were the very, very,
- 00:25:51.206 --> 00:25:54.109
- Very much hand-to-mouth financially at the time.
- 00:25:54.109 --> 00:25:56.211
- The church was,
- 00:25:56.211 --> 00:25:57.746
- I was like, i know, but this is like how you do it.
- 00:25:57.746 --> 00:25:59.280
- You just say it's going to happen,
- 00:25:59.280 --> 00:26:01.282
- And then it gets everything.
- 00:26:01.282 --> 00:26:02.651
- You got to kind of get going, you know,
- 00:26:02.651 --> 00:26:04.052
- Get everything happening.
- 00:26:04.052 --> 00:26:05.186
- Well, little did i know that god would use that website
- 00:26:05.186 --> 00:26:09.658
- And or that blog post and such a unique way.
- 00:26:09.658 --> 00:26:13.361
- There was a gentleman in florida who i'd never met before
- 00:26:13.361 --> 00:26:15.897
- Who sees it, and he wants to have a conversation with me.
- 00:26:15.897 --> 00:26:18.933
- His name's rob
- 00:26:18.933 --> 00:26:20.135
- Hoskins, and rob calls me, and i'd never met rob before.
- 00:26:20.135 --> 00:26:22.671
- He runs the children's ministry out of florida.
- 00:26:22.671 --> 00:26:25.240
- He has all these questions about the website.
- 00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:27.909
- He gets off to, he says, what are the obstacles you have?
- 00:26:28.977 --> 00:26:31.079
- And i said, well, the first obstacles,
- 00:26:31.079 --> 00:26:32.380
- We don't even have permission to use a bible text.
- 00:26:32.380 --> 00:26:34.516
- And i don't even know any of the people.
- 00:26:34.516 --> 00:26:36.451
- Well, without him telling me he he gets off the call.
- 00:26:36.451 --> 00:26:40.155
- He calls another gentleman named mark green,
- 00:26:40.155 --> 00:26:42.857
- Who is in my home, my hometown.
- 00:26:42.857 --> 00:26:46.394
- And so i receive a phone call from mark
- 00:26:46.394 --> 00:26:48.763
- And it says, hey, i hear about this.
- 00:26:48.763 --> 00:26:50.131
- You have this website idea, tell me about it
- 00:26:50.131 --> 00:26:52.400
- And explain it to him.
- 00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:54.502
- I knew of mark green, but i had never met mark green,
- 00:26:54.502 --> 00:26:58.273
- Mark green
- 00:26:58.273 --> 00:26:59.507
- And, he's one of the hobby lobby family, the green family.
- 00:26:59.507 --> 00:27:02.310
- But he also owned a chain of christian martel's.
- 00:27:02.310 --> 00:27:05.313
- And it's so march like, how could i help?
- 00:27:05.313 --> 00:27:07.716
- But i was like, well, i don't know.
- 00:27:07.716 --> 00:27:08.650
- But there's one of the obstacles.
- 00:27:08.650 --> 00:27:10.185
- And he says, well, we buy like maybe more bibles than anybody.
- 00:27:10.185 --> 00:27:14.122
- So i could at least make introductions
- 00:27:14.122 --> 00:27:15.924
- To the publishers of all these bibles.
- 00:27:15.924 --> 00:27:18.393
- So instead of trying to go through the front door,
- 00:27:18.393 --> 00:27:20.161
- I can get you right to the top people.
- 00:27:20.161 --> 00:27:22.597
- I suppose i'd be. that'd be great.
- 00:27:22.597 --> 00:27:24.065
- So he fires off emails, all of them.
- 00:27:24.065 --> 00:27:26.000
- And when mark green sends an email to you,
- 00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:28.103
- You take a meeting.
- 00:27:28.103 --> 00:27:29.104
- And so they're willing to take a meeting and
- 00:27:29.104 --> 00:27:31.406
- I wish i could tell you that, that they said yes,
- 00:27:31.406 --> 00:27:34.976
- But pretty much they all said the christian version of no,
- 00:27:34.976 --> 00:27:39.414
- Which is we'll pray about it.
- 00:27:39.414 --> 00:27:40.815
- And and so i had this response
- 00:27:40.815 --> 00:27:45.120
- Is that over and over again we'll pray about it, you know.
- 00:27:45.120 --> 00:27:48.089
- Yeah, yeah. and, that was the nice way.
- 00:27:48.089 --> 00:27:50.792
- That was the nice way of not not saying no.
- 00:27:50.792 --> 00:27:53.895
- But we did get one. yes.
- 00:27:53.895 --> 00:27:55.697
- And one yes was all we needed.
- 00:27:55.697 --> 00:27:57.332
- One modern english bible that said yes, it
- 00:27:57.332 --> 00:28:00.335
- Was, thomas nelson, new king james version,
- 00:28:00.335 --> 00:28:03.605
- And that was, enough for us to launch the website in september.
- 00:28:03.605 --> 00:28:07.909
- But that that step of faith and in a blog post,
- 00:28:07.909 --> 00:28:12.247
- I didn't know what was going to happen from that.
- 00:28:12.247 --> 00:28:14.082
- And god literally used the actual blog post
- 00:28:14.082 --> 00:28:17.252
- To meet the, the, the one thing we needed.
- 00:28:17.252 --> 00:28:19.621
- Yeah, yeah.
- 00:28:19.621 --> 00:28:20.488
- And i think sometimes we,
- 00:28:20.488 --> 00:28:22.023
- We struggle
- 00:28:22.023 --> 00:28:22.957
- Sometimes to just take those first steps
- 00:28:22.957 --> 00:28:24.659
- Because we think we have to have everything put together.
- 00:28:24.659 --> 00:28:26.694
- We have to have it all figured out before
- 00:28:26.694 --> 00:28:28.363
- We could sort of take the first step to walk into it.
- 00:28:28.363 --> 00:28:32.467
- Music
- 00:28:32.700 --> 00:31:17.598
- Lyircs
- 00:31:17.598 --> 00:31:19.500
- Now. the website launched in september.
- 00:31:20.301 --> 00:31:22.570
- What i noticed though is
- 00:31:22.570 --> 00:31:23.871
- People were coming but they weren't coming back.
- 00:31:23.871 --> 00:31:26.040
- And fast forward now and this is september, october,
- 00:31:26.040 --> 00:31:28.876
- November, december and in december it became
- 00:31:28.876 --> 00:31:32.847
- It was a realization came to me that this has actually failed.
- 00:31:32.847 --> 00:31:36.150
- This idea did not work.
- 00:31:36.150 --> 00:31:38.553
- And this was after all of the hurdles
- 00:31:38.553 --> 00:31:41.823
- And all the challenges.
- 00:31:41.823 --> 00:31:43.091
- And there's even more that take way too much time to share.
- 00:31:43.091 --> 00:31:46.694
- You know, and as a
- 00:31:47.128 --> 00:31:48.229
- Leader, when you kind of set a vision for something,
- 00:31:48.229 --> 00:31:50.198
- You get people to buy into the vision.
- 00:31:50.198 --> 00:31:51.532
- A lot of people donated time,
- 00:31:51.532 --> 00:31:52.967
- You know, to this because they believed in what.
- 00:31:52.967 --> 00:31:54.902
- Year we now. this is 2007.
- 00:31:54.902 --> 00:31:57.505
- So, bobby, hold just a moment,
- 00:31:57.505 --> 00:32:01.075
- Because everything you had ever done, god had breathed into it
- 00:32:01.075 --> 00:32:07.215
- In a way that it was moving and growing.
- 00:32:07.215 --> 00:32:11.552
- You had never seen failure
- 00:32:11.552 --> 00:32:14.589
- That had never been in your entire kind of.
- 00:32:14.589 --> 00:32:19.060
- Not in a big way.
- 00:32:19.060 --> 00:32:20.228
- I mean, there have been smaller ways, but yes.
- 00:32:20.228 --> 00:32:22.063
- Not not in a
- 00:32:22.063 --> 00:32:23.531
- Not in a very visible, very big like we're going to do this
- 00:32:23.531 --> 00:32:26.567
- And it's going to work. and then it does.
- 00:32:26.567 --> 00:32:27.902
- So the thought is, god uses a blog post,
- 00:32:27.902 --> 00:32:32.340
- Connects you to market, mark connects you.
- 00:32:32.340 --> 00:32:35.610
- You get the new king james
- 00:32:35.610 --> 00:32:37.545
- Version agreed to which was your biggest hurdle.
- 00:32:37.545 --> 00:32:40.648
- You launch everything big opening
- 00:32:40.648 --> 00:32:43.084
- And then the trajectory is just a slow crash and burn.
- 00:32:43.084 --> 00:32:47.121
- So what do you think at that time? yeah,
- 00:32:47.121 --> 00:32:49.390
- Tell me about
- 00:32:49.757 --> 00:32:50.758
- Tell me about waking up to that those days.
- 00:32:50.758 --> 00:32:53.428
- Well, i mean, it is never,
- 00:32:53.428 --> 00:32:56.197
- It's never fun.
- 00:32:56.197 --> 00:32:58.933
- You probably more of what i was
- 00:32:58.933 --> 00:33:01.002
- Feeling was letting other people down.
- 00:33:01.002 --> 00:33:03.204
- Yeah, right.
- 00:33:03.204 --> 00:33:04.172
- Because you have asked people to come with you
- 00:33:04.172 --> 00:33:07.608
- And believe in what you're what you're doing.
- 00:33:07.608 --> 00:33:10.912
- But. and i did know very clearly
- 00:33:11.546 --> 00:33:14.882
- Because i've had a lot of other smaller failures, but
- 00:33:14.882 --> 00:33:17.985
- I did know that part of growing and taking risks,
- 00:33:17.985 --> 00:33:21.789
- I mean, part of it is taking risk.
- 00:33:21.789 --> 00:33:23.091
- And part of taking a risk is failure.
- 00:33:23.091 --> 00:33:25.893
- Now, i felt like what's important
- 00:33:25.893 --> 00:33:28.563
- Now is to actually acknowledge that it failed.
- 00:33:28.563 --> 00:33:31.632
- And there's a reason for that.
- 00:33:31.632 --> 00:33:33.201
- I find that the, the fear of failure, most people
- 00:33:33.201 --> 00:33:37.138
- Think, is the fear that keeps you from starting something
- 00:33:37.138 --> 00:33:39.841
- Because you're afraid. what if, like, what if it doesn't work?
- 00:33:39.841 --> 00:33:42.443
- That's the fear that holds you back from starting.
- 00:33:42.443 --> 00:33:44.479
- I think in the ministry world and many times
- 00:33:45.413 --> 00:33:48.082
- In the business world,
- 00:33:48.082 --> 00:33:49.150
- The fear of failure
- 00:33:49.150 --> 00:33:50.451
- Is oftentimes the fear that keeps you
- 00:33:50.451 --> 00:33:52.587
- From stopping something that's not working.
- 00:33:52.587 --> 00:33:54.422
- Oh, which is
- 00:33:54.422 --> 00:33:55.756
- Which is a different expression of the same fear,
- 00:33:55.756 --> 00:33:57.925
- Because that's the point you actually
- 00:33:57.925 --> 00:33:59.060
- Have to fully acknowledge, hey, this didn't work.
- 00:33:59.060 --> 00:34:02.296
- But the benefit of that
- 00:34:02.830 --> 00:34:04.432
- Is that it allows you to go as deep
- 00:34:04.432 --> 00:34:06.200
- As you need to go to understand why it didn't work.
- 00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:08.636
- And if you're going to fail, you better learn.
- 00:34:08.636 --> 00:34:10.705
- You know from it like god uses failure to help people learn.
- 00:34:10.705 --> 00:34:15.443
- And, and so i'm not afraid to call it a failure.
- 00:34:15.443 --> 00:34:18.779
- I'm not afraid to just,
- 00:34:18.779 --> 00:34:19.680
- You know,
- 00:34:19.680 --> 00:34:20.948
- I don't try to massage it and treat it in a really nice way.
- 00:34:20.948 --> 00:34:23.651
- So it's just really, the beginning.
- 00:34:23.651 --> 00:34:26.053
- And we pivoted and we did this.
- 00:34:26.053 --> 00:34:27.588
- It's like, no, no, that was the idea.
- 00:34:27.588 --> 00:34:29.190
- And it did not work.
- 00:34:29.190 --> 00:34:31.058
- But what that did was allowed us to say, maybe the fundamental
- 00:34:31.058 --> 00:34:33.995
- Problem was that it shouldn't be built for a computer,
- 00:34:33.995 --> 00:34:38.132
- Which is what we were building for.
- 00:34:38.132 --> 00:34:39.667
- Maybe we should try to build it for a phone
- 00:34:39.667 --> 00:34:42.870
- Because we didn't recognize the computer,
- 00:34:42.870 --> 00:34:45.006
- Just moved the bible basically from our nightstand
- 00:34:45.006 --> 00:34:47.475
- Where it wasn't being read to our desktop,
- 00:34:47.475 --> 00:34:50.745
- Our physical place in our office.
- 00:34:50.745 --> 00:34:52.280
- So still it locked into one place.
- 00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:54.749
- But at that point in time,
- 00:34:54.749 --> 00:34:55.616
- We had these things called blackberries
- 00:34:55.616 --> 00:34:57.718
- That we carried with us that were called
- 00:34:57.718 --> 00:34:59.554
- Crackberry is actually because they were like an addictive,
- 00:34:59.554 --> 00:35:02.723
- Way of responding to email.
- 00:35:02.723 --> 00:35:04.959
- And they had very simple screens and very simple
- 00:35:04.959 --> 00:35:07.995
- Kind of browsers on them.
- 00:35:07.995 --> 00:35:10.331
- We thought we should
- 00:35:10.331 --> 00:35:11.399
- Redesign the website to display it on the blackberry.
- 00:35:11.399 --> 00:35:14.101
- And that was early 2008, january.
- 00:35:14.101 --> 00:35:17.138
- So when we did that, it was profound
- 00:35:17.138 --> 00:35:19.507
- How that simple change, very simple screen
- 00:35:19.507 --> 00:35:22.710
- Really did change how we engaged in the bible.
- 00:35:22.710 --> 00:35:25.046
- We would use it at the doctor's office
- 00:35:25.046 --> 00:35:27.114
- While we're waiting, like just in wherever, wherever we were.
- 00:35:27.114 --> 00:35:30.818
- Scripture could kind of intersect
- 00:35:30.818 --> 00:35:32.720
- Those parts of our lives.
- 00:35:32.720 --> 00:35:34.555
- So that's happened in early 2008.
- 00:35:34.555 --> 00:35:37.391
- Steve jobs in march of 2008, comes out and announces
- 00:35:37.391 --> 00:35:40.828
- Something called an app store
- 00:35:40.828 --> 00:35:42.496
- And the ability to develop apps for this new phone
- 00:35:42.496 --> 00:35:45.166
- That had just been out, called the iphone.
- 00:35:45.166 --> 00:35:47.435
- So we thought
- 00:35:47.435 --> 00:35:48.736
- Based on what we see god doing, we should try to build an app.
- 00:35:48.736 --> 00:35:52.273
- Once again.
- 00:35:52.607 --> 00:35:53.708
- Though, none of us had any idea how to build an app.
- 00:35:53.708 --> 00:35:56.544
- I'm not an engineer.
- 00:35:56.978 --> 00:35:58.045
- I don't write code.
- 00:35:58.045 --> 00:35:59.614
- So i found a 19 year old on our team who loved apple,
- 00:35:59.614 --> 00:36:03.050
- And back then,
- 00:36:03.417 --> 00:36:04.218
- Those are the only two
- 00:36:04.218 --> 00:36:05.419
- Requirements you had to have were to be 19 and to love apple.
- 00:36:05.419 --> 00:36:08.122
- Yeah.
- 00:36:08.122 --> 00:36:08.923
- And and so as a part time project,
- 00:36:08.923 --> 00:36:11.259
- Literally nights and weekends, just extra.
- 00:36:11.259 --> 00:36:14.395
- We spent three and a half months building the first bible app,
- 00:36:14.395 --> 00:36:18.165
- Submitted it to apple, had no idea if they
- 00:36:18.165 --> 00:36:20.735
- Were going to approve it.
- 00:36:20.735 --> 00:36:22.203
- Because i was like, is apple
- 00:36:22.770 --> 00:36:23.871
- Going to want a bible in their app store?
- 00:36:23.871 --> 00:36:25.640
- I don't know.
- 00:36:25.640 --> 00:36:27.008
- And then we also didn't know how many apps there would be.
- 00:36:27.008 --> 00:36:29.944
- I presume there would be a lot, but the day that the app store
- 00:36:29.944 --> 00:36:32.913
- Launched, it was it was july
- 00:36:32.913 --> 00:36:36.150
- 10th, 2008.
- 00:36:36.150 --> 00:36:38.319
- It was a thursday evening and our app
- 00:36:38.319 --> 00:36:41.689
- Made it into the app store on the very first day,
- 00:36:41.689 --> 00:36:44.592
- And there were only 200 apps in the entire store.
- 00:36:44.592 --> 00:36:47.928
- And so we just were shocked.
- 00:36:47.928 --> 00:36:50.398
- And then we were shocked even more so by sunday.
- 00:36:50.398 --> 00:36:53.100
- So thursday, the sunday morning, we'd seen 83,000 people
- 00:36:53.100 --> 00:36:57.271
- Install it on their iphone,
- 00:36:57.271 --> 00:36:58.639
- And you could tell that they were using it
- 00:36:58.639 --> 00:37:00.274
- Like they were opening it multiple times a day.
- 00:37:00.274 --> 00:37:02.376
- And and so,
- 00:37:02.376 --> 00:37:04.378
- I mean, i'm a pretty simple person,
- 00:37:04.378 --> 00:37:06.013
- But when you see god do something
- 00:37:06.013 --> 00:37:08.549
- Unexpected, i've learned
- 00:37:08.549 --> 00:37:10.251
- You just take whatever resources you have,
- 00:37:10.251 --> 00:37:12.486
- Whatever energy you have, and you just push it behind
- 00:37:12.486 --> 00:37:15.856
- The things that you see him doing.
- 00:37:15.856 --> 00:37:17.725
- We don't have to go create our own way when he's got a way.
- 00:37:17.725 --> 00:37:20.261
- We just want to join. you know what he's doing.
- 00:37:20.261 --> 00:37:24.732
- 1 billion downloads of the living word of god,
- 00:37:25.700 --> 00:37:29.570
- Which is active and powerful and never returns void.
- 00:37:29.570 --> 00:37:33.741
- 1 billion opportunities
- 00:37:34.275 --> 00:37:36.911
- To experience the word made flesh.
- 00:37:36.911 --> 00:37:40.581
- A billion opportunities
- 00:37:41.115 --> 00:37:43.651
- For god to draw near to someone
- 00:37:43.651 --> 00:37:46.854
- That's hurting and someone that's searching in.
- 00:37:46.854 --> 00:37:50.725
- Someone that needs saving
- 00:37:50.725 --> 00:37:53.861
- From brokenness and sin.
- 00:37:53.861 --> 00:37:57.031
- And now to imagine that every 39 days the app is opened
- 00:37:57.031 --> 00:38:02.636
- 1 billion times every 39 days,
- 00:38:02.636 --> 00:38:07.041
- Almost 300 times
- 00:38:07.408 --> 00:38:10.111
- Every single second, 300 times every single second.
- 00:38:10.111 --> 00:38:14.582
- And god draws near to every single one.
- 00:38:14.582 --> 00:38:19.387
- I'm going to tell you right now,
- 00:38:20.020 --> 00:38:21.122
- I was one life, one life changed by the word of god.
- 00:38:21.122 --> 00:38:25.126
- And when bobby came and said, hey, do you want
- 00:38:25.126 --> 00:38:27.261
- To give this thing away? i said, can we afford it?
- 00:38:27.261 --> 00:38:30.164
- Because i didn't know how much it was going to cost.
- 00:38:31.232 --> 00:38:33.434
- And but we are.
- 00:38:33.434 --> 00:38:34.201
- Our church took a step of faith,
- 00:38:34.201 --> 00:38:36.604
- And we said, we're going to give the word of god away.
- 00:38:36.604 --> 00:38:38.939
- And people have said, why don't you monetize it?
- 00:38:38.939 --> 00:38:41.075
- Why don't you do an ad?
- 00:38:41.075 --> 00:38:42.243
- Why don't you sell something?
- 00:38:42.243 --> 00:38:43.878
- Why don't you charge a dollar? i'm going tell you right now.
- 00:38:43.878 --> 00:38:46.380
- I was saved by a free bible.
- 00:38:46.380 --> 00:38:47.948
- Our bible is not for sale.
- 00:38:47.948 --> 00:38:51.285
- Our bible was born with the help of our partners
- 00:38:49.583 --> 00:38:54.688
- And the generous partners who have god's word.
- 00:38:54.688 --> 00:38:58.359
- We will always give it.
- 00:38:58.359 --> 00:39:00.094
- And it is our great honor.
- 00:39:00.094 --> 00:39:02.463
- And although it's free to receive,
- 00:39:02.463 --> 00:39:04.799
- It is not free to create,
- 00:39:04.799 --> 00:39:06.667
- And we remain unwaveringly committed to one vision.
- 00:39:06.667 --> 00:39:11.806
- And that is just until until jesus comes back.
- 00:39:11.806 --> 00:39:14.975
- Or as long as we live.
- 00:39:14.975 --> 00:39:16.243
- Our vision is god's word.
- 00:39:16.243 --> 00:39:18.212
- Every one,
- 00:39:18.212 --> 00:39:19.814
- Everywhere and every say,
- 00:39:20.381 --> 00:39:24.285
- Every one, and everywhere and every day.
- 00:39:24.285 --> 00:39:27.888
- And i believe in the depth of my soul
- 00:39:27.888 --> 00:39:30.658
- That we're standing on the edge of one
- 00:39:30.658 --> 00:39:34.061
- Of the greatest opportunities in history.
- 00:39:34.061 --> 00:39:36.664
- As bobby said, there's a spiritual hunger
- 00:39:36.664 --> 00:39:38.632
- Like i've never, ever seen before.
- 00:39:38.632 --> 00:39:40.134
- And people are tired of faith and they're they're crying out
- 00:39:40.134 --> 00:39:43.571
- For something authentic and something real.
- 00:39:43.571 --> 00:39:45.539
- They are searching for jesus, the word made flesh.
- 00:39:45.539 --> 00:39:49.977
- That's where it started.
- 00:39:50.478 --> 00:39:51.745
- So the very first device that had the
- 00:39:51.745 --> 00:39:54.014
- The device that i held up
- 00:39:54.014 --> 00:39:55.115
- There was actually the iphone of the 19 year old
- 00:39:55.115 --> 00:39:58.686
- Because he actually had installed on his friend
- 00:39:58.686 --> 00:40:01.555
- Phone first to test it.
- 00:40:01.555 --> 00:40:03.190
- And, and that was number one.
- 00:40:03.190 --> 00:40:05.392
- And then of course, now
- 00:40:05.392 --> 00:40:06.527
- It's grown into being more than a billion.
- 00:40:06.527 --> 00:40:07.962
- So had it not failed in december 2007,
- 00:40:07.962 --> 00:40:11.799
- You probably wouldn't have been ready for immediately.
- 00:40:11.799 --> 00:40:15.736
- Exactly, exactly.
- 00:40:15.736 --> 00:40:17.738
- That's the thing. i tried the first app.
- 00:40:17.738 --> 00:40:19.907
- We would have been busy trying to fix the web.
- 00:40:19.907 --> 00:40:21.742
- Yeah, and we wouldn't have been able
- 00:40:21.742 --> 00:40:23.744
- To in a position to see the opportunity.
- 00:40:23.744 --> 00:40:26.213
- And that's why i want to encourage people.
- 00:40:26.213 --> 00:40:27.515
- It's like when you
- 00:40:27.515 --> 00:40:28.549
- When something doesn't work,
- 00:40:28.549 --> 00:40:30.117
- There's something else
- 00:40:30.117 --> 00:40:30.985
- That god wants to unlock in it for you,
- 00:40:30.985 --> 00:40:33.120
- But you have to actually be willing to have the courage
- 00:40:33.120 --> 00:40:36.423
- To kind of move on to make that possible,
- 00:40:36.423 --> 00:40:38.692
- Because otherwise you're going to be stuck on the wrong thing,
- 00:40:38.692 --> 00:40:40.661
- Wasting your energy on the thing
- 00:40:40.661 --> 00:40:42.096
- That that isn't working and missed the opportunity.
- 00:40:42.096 --> 00:40:44.598
- You hear the announcement, you start a new thing.
- 00:40:44.598 --> 00:40:50.004
- Youversion now for mobile app and you're in the first,
- 00:40:50.004 --> 00:40:54.542
- Very first day of the app store along with 200.
- 00:40:54.542 --> 00:40:58.178
- I don't know how many apps are in the app store now.
- 00:40:58.178 --> 00:41:00.080
- But millions, several million.
- 00:41:00.080 --> 00:41:02.149
- Several million. yeah.
- 00:41:02.149 --> 00:41:03.751
- And youversion,
- 00:41:03.751 --> 00:41:06.487
- Was day one of the app store.
- 00:41:07.121 --> 00:41:10.124
- Now you're across all the platforms.
- 00:41:10.124 --> 00:41:12.192
- And if we're at this beyond
- 00:41:12.192 --> 00:41:14.762
- A billion thing, where where can we go now?
- 00:41:14.762 --> 00:41:18.532
- I'm looking at us
- 00:41:18.532 --> 00:41:20.434
- A saying over your shoulder every language, you know,
- 00:41:20.434 --> 00:41:23.737
- You know, i'm looking at every person a global impact.
- 00:41:24.805 --> 00:41:27.975
- It it so where
- 00:41:27.975 --> 00:41:31.245
- We're now present day again.
- 00:41:31.812 --> 00:41:33.781
- Yeah.
- 00:41:33.781 --> 00:41:34.949
- We have celebrated with you with the billionth download.
- 00:41:34.949 --> 00:41:38.552
- There's a handful of other apps in the whole world
- 00:41:38.552 --> 00:41:43.991
- That have had that kind of of engagement.
- 00:41:43.991 --> 00:41:48.028
- And what's what's
- 00:41:48.462 --> 00:41:50.898
- The next season for you, bobby?
- 00:41:50.898 --> 00:41:54.001
- Well, we're we're living in,
- 00:41:54.001 --> 00:41:57.771
- Unprecedented acceleration right now, which is one of the
- 00:41:57.771 --> 00:42:01.375
- My favorite parts of the story is that,
- 00:42:01.375 --> 00:42:05.112
- If i wish that i had the kind of faith to just believe that
- 00:42:05.112 --> 00:42:09.183
- This type of thing would have been possible
- 00:42:09.183 --> 00:42:10.618
- When i was sitting in the airport security line.
- 00:42:10.618 --> 00:42:12.519
- Yeah, but i didn't have that kind of faith.
- 00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:14.188
- I had just enough faith to take the first step.
- 00:42:14.188 --> 00:42:16.624
- And but of course, with what we've seen god do,
- 00:42:16.624 --> 00:42:19.226
- Your faith has to grow, right?
- 00:42:19.226 --> 00:42:21.095
- You know, you've
- 00:42:21.095 --> 00:42:22.196
- You've seen too much, right for for not to believe
- 00:42:22.196 --> 00:42:24.498
- That god could do more.
- 00:42:24.498 --> 00:42:26.433
- So we really we have the faith
- 00:42:27.067 --> 00:42:28.335
- To believe, like you like mentioned before, that,
- 00:42:28.335 --> 00:42:31.538
- The second billion will happen and much less time.
- 00:42:31.538 --> 00:42:34.108
- It took 17.5 years to get the first billion,
- 00:42:34.108 --> 00:42:36.310
- We think, going to be less than five
- 00:42:36.310 --> 00:42:37.611
- For the second, less than three for the third.
- 00:42:37.611 --> 00:42:41.448
- There's an acceleration that's picking up
- 00:42:41.448 --> 00:42:43.083
- The biggest days of engagement in the history of the app
- 00:42:43.083 --> 00:42:46.420
- Have been just in the last month.
- 00:42:46.420 --> 00:42:48.589
- You know, in fact, probably last sunday
- 00:42:48.589 --> 00:42:51.225
- Was probably among the all time highest days ever.
- 00:42:51.225 --> 00:42:54.328
- And it's not because it's a it's not because it's easter
- 00:42:54.328 --> 00:42:57.197
- Or because it's a particularly special sunday.
- 00:42:57.197 --> 00:42:59.867
- It just happens to be the last one.
- 00:42:59.867 --> 00:43:01.168
- And the momentum has really picked up globally for it.
- 00:43:01.168 --> 00:43:05.439
- We do want to see god's word in everyone's heart language.
- 00:43:05.439 --> 00:43:08.175
- And so we've partnered with those
- 00:43:08.175 --> 00:43:09.677
- That are doing bible translation work.
- 00:43:09.677 --> 00:43:11.345
- It's something i didn't know as well, besides the fact
- 00:43:12.446 --> 00:43:14.581
- That people own the bible with the fact that the bible's
- 00:43:14.581 --> 00:43:17.551
- Not yet been translated into everyone's language.
- 00:43:17.551 --> 00:43:21.422
- And so when you really think about that and you think,
- 00:43:21.422 --> 00:43:25.025
- You know, what would that be like for us
- 00:43:25.025 --> 00:43:27.795
- If we had to learn spanish in order to read the bible?
- 00:43:27.795 --> 00:43:30.998
- Wow. you know,
- 00:43:31.365 --> 00:43:32.366
- If we had to learn something different
- 00:43:32.366 --> 00:43:34.201
- And or it was never available in english
- 00:43:34.201 --> 00:43:36.270
- And we never heard jesus's words in english,
- 00:43:36.270 --> 00:43:39.039
- How would that change
- 00:43:39.039 --> 00:43:40.207
- Everything, you know, change our relationship
- 00:43:40.207 --> 00:43:42.209
- Or change our understanding of god?
- 00:43:42.209 --> 00:43:43.911
- Well, that's the truth and the reality for for
- 00:43:43.911 --> 00:43:46.280
- I think maybe currently about 800 million people.
- 00:43:46.280 --> 00:43:48.882
- Wow, that still don't have it available in the heart language.
- 00:43:48.882 --> 00:43:51.852
- So we're committed to partnering that.
- 00:43:51.852 --> 00:43:53.821
- The bible app
- 00:43:53.821 --> 00:43:55.055
- Today has the bible in over 2300 languages, all for free.
- 00:43:55.055 --> 00:43:59.727
- But that's through partnerships with so we we're continuing
- 00:43:59.727 --> 00:44:02.930
- On that path.
- 00:44:02.930 --> 00:44:04.064
- That's something that we hope to have accomplished.
- 00:44:04.064 --> 00:44:05.532
- We're not doing the bible translation work,
- 00:44:05.532 --> 00:44:07.167
- We're just partnering with those that do.
- 00:44:07.167 --> 00:44:09.269
- But we're hoping to accelerate
- 00:44:09.269 --> 00:44:10.504
- That and be a part of seeing that happen by 2033.
- 00:44:10.504 --> 00:44:13.974
- We're adding features that are always focused on
- 00:44:14.975 --> 00:44:17.544
- How to make it easier
- 00:44:17.544 --> 00:44:18.746
- For people to make the bible a part of their everyday life.
- 00:44:18.746 --> 00:44:21.582
- So we look at a lot of data, and we're trying to get it
- 00:44:21.582 --> 00:44:24.184
- To where we can really help you individually,
- 00:44:24.184 --> 00:44:27.421
- Wherever you're starting, whether you're not a believer.
- 00:44:27.421 --> 00:44:30.991
- Because surprisingly surprising to some people,
- 00:44:30.991 --> 00:44:34.561
- We have a lot of people that download our app.
- 00:44:34.561 --> 00:44:36.196
- They're not believers, not christians.
- 00:44:36.196 --> 00:44:37.865
- People say, well,
- 00:44:37.865 --> 00:44:39.066
- Why would you download a bible if you're not a christian?
- 00:44:39.066 --> 00:44:42.302
- It's because there's a lot of people
- 00:44:42.302 --> 00:44:43.637
- That are searching for truth and for answers.
- 00:44:43.637 --> 00:44:45.906
- And in a world where so much content is created by ai
- 00:44:45.906 --> 00:44:50.377
- And people are wondering, how do i trust what is real?
- 00:44:50.377 --> 00:44:54.081
- What's the veracity of the content i consume?
- 00:44:54.081 --> 00:44:56.483
- Is it actually true or not true?
- 00:44:56.483 --> 00:44:58.252
- That video i used to be able to say,
- 00:44:58.252 --> 00:44:59.853
- I saw it with my own eyes and i know it's true.
- 00:44:59.853 --> 00:45:01.755
- And now you can't say that anymore.
- 00:45:01.755 --> 00:45:03.123
- And well, the natural consequence of that
- 00:45:03.123 --> 00:45:06.393
- Is to actually create a desire inside of people for content.
- 00:45:06.393 --> 00:45:11.098
- That's true for things that they can trust,
- 00:45:11.098 --> 00:45:14.201
- Because everything else feels so shaky
- 00:45:14.201 --> 00:45:17.504
- And the bible stands alone. it's so unique.
- 00:45:17.504 --> 00:45:20.040
- There's nothing else like it.
- 00:45:20.040 --> 00:45:22.075
- So for thousands of years,
- 00:45:22.075 --> 00:45:23.377
- It's been carefully moved from generation to generation.
- 00:45:23.377 --> 00:45:25.679
- Right now, at the museum of the bible,
- 00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:27.548
- You can see the dead
- 00:45:27.548 --> 00:45:28.749
- Sea scrolls on display, and you can see the consistency
- 00:45:28.749 --> 00:45:31.451
- Between an artifact from thousands of years ago
- 00:45:31.451 --> 00:45:34.922
- In the text that we're reading today,
- 00:45:34.922 --> 00:45:37.724
- And know that this has stood that test of time,
- 00:45:37.724 --> 00:45:40.794
- Which is way different than any ai generated content
- 00:45:40.794 --> 00:45:43.530
- Or something that you're going to see.
- 00:45:43.530 --> 00:45:44.765
- So we actually feel like the bible is really built
- 00:45:44.765 --> 00:45:47.534
- For this moment.
- 00:45:47.534 --> 00:45:48.402
- It's like the antidote for the problem
- 00:45:48.402 --> 00:45:50.971
- That people are feeling right now.
- 00:45:50.971 --> 00:45:52.840
- So, so that that causes us to just say,
- 00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:55.475
- What can we do to to really push into this acceleration,
- 00:45:55.475 --> 00:45:58.879
- To add as many features that we can
- 00:45:58.879 --> 00:46:00.514
- That can engage people to kind of help build
- 00:46:00.514 --> 00:46:02.482
- That trust connection that we're just talking about.
- 00:46:02.482 --> 00:46:04.985
- So we're always working on it.
- 00:46:04.985 --> 00:46:06.353
- Some people think, well, the bible i've already done,
- 00:46:06.353 --> 00:46:08.055
- It's like,
- 00:46:08.055 --> 00:46:09.122
- No, we've got like 230 people that work full time,
- 00:46:09.122 --> 00:46:11.558
- Doing nothing but trying to make it better.
- 00:46:11.558 --> 00:46:13.160
- And it's in all these languages. we have content.
- 00:46:13.160 --> 00:46:15.629
- We still need a lot more content in languages like arabic and
- 00:46:15.629 --> 00:46:19.299
- And romanian and just,
- 00:46:19.299 --> 00:46:20.968
- You know, we're expanding kind of the base
- 00:46:20.968 --> 00:46:22.970
- Of all the bible plans that we have in english.
- 00:46:22.970 --> 00:46:25.305
- We're trying to have create similar types of experiences
- 00:46:25.305 --> 00:46:28.408
- For people wherever they are in the world,
- 00:46:28.408 --> 00:46:30.510
- That they open in their fields like it's created for them.
- 00:46:30.510 --> 00:46:32.980
- So we are very much just getting started,
- 00:46:32.980 --> 00:46:35.182
- Like we feel like the billions, it's a milestone,
- 00:46:35.182 --> 00:46:37.684
- But it's just a it's a milestone. yeah.
- 00:46:37.684 --> 00:46:39.820
- I don't feel like
- 00:46:39.820 --> 00:46:41.088
- God has so many more things planned for us to move forward.
- 00:46:41.088 --> 00:46:43.290
- Help me,
- 00:46:43.290 --> 00:46:44.691
- Land the plane.
- 00:46:45.092 --> 00:46:46.193
- You understand that?
- 00:46:46.193 --> 00:46:47.494
- You understand that term, you're a pilot, and,
- 00:46:47.494 --> 00:46:52.199
- We've hit a lot of things here.
- 00:46:52.866 --> 00:46:54.801
- We've hit, you know, stepping out on faith.
- 00:46:54.801 --> 00:46:59.072
- We've hit failing.
- 00:46:59.072 --> 00:47:01.775
- We've hit all sorts of things.
- 00:47:01.775 --> 00:47:03.377
- We've hit this dynamic of of,
- 00:47:03.377 --> 00:47:06.513
- You know, what is the kingdom?
- 00:47:06.513 --> 00:47:09.182
- It's everything, you know, how kind of wrap this up.
- 00:47:09.182 --> 00:47:14.721
- And then,
- 00:47:15.022 --> 00:47:18.392
- Just just just kind of give me a summary of what you
- 00:47:18.392 --> 00:47:21.862
- What you think we've actually discussed today?
- 00:47:21.862 --> 00:47:25.265
- Yes. you put a bow on all of that.
- 00:47:26.033 --> 00:47:27.701
- Yeah, i do, you do a little, do a little cleanup for me.
- 00:47:27.701 --> 00:47:29.937
- And then i got one last thing for you.
- 00:47:29.937 --> 00:47:31.338
- Yeah, well,
- 00:47:31.338 --> 00:47:33.941
- I would say,
- 00:47:33.941 --> 00:47:39.446
- We can never underestimate what god wants
- 00:47:40.314 --> 00:47:44.351
- And can do through single acts of obedience in our lives.
- 00:47:44.351 --> 00:47:48.555
- When we surrender
- 00:47:48.989 --> 00:47:50.924
- Everything that we have, all of our experiences,
- 00:47:50.924 --> 00:47:53.193
- Including the stuff that we're not proud of.
- 00:47:53.193 --> 00:47:54.962
- Yeah.
- 00:47:54.962 --> 00:47:55.862
- To him, i found that god uses all of it.
- 00:47:55.862 --> 00:48:00.167
- Our responsibility
- 00:48:00.600 --> 00:48:02.836
- Is to just listen for his voice
- 00:48:02.836 --> 00:48:06.206
- The best way.
- 00:48:06.206 --> 00:48:07.474
- One of the best ways to listen for his voice is in his word.
- 00:48:07.474 --> 00:48:09.977
- Yeah.
- 00:48:09.977 --> 00:48:11.078
- So if you're not someone who is engaged in the bible
- 00:48:11.078 --> 00:48:14.114
- Daily like i am, i wasn't.
- 00:48:14.114 --> 00:48:15.916
- I was in that same spot, you know, back in 2006.
- 00:48:15.916 --> 00:48:19.953
- And i was just trying to solve a problem for me.
- 00:48:19.953 --> 00:48:23.790
- And i did i do have daily engagement in god's word today.
- 00:48:23.790 --> 00:48:28.362
- But the benefit of that is that you're able to then
- 00:48:29.429 --> 00:48:32.899
- Discern god.
- 00:48:32.899 --> 00:48:34.434
- Where do you want me today.
- 00:48:34.434 --> 00:48:36.436
- What do you want me to take this step.
- 00:48:36.436 --> 00:48:38.372
- Is this from you.
- 00:48:38.372 --> 00:48:39.573
- And and when you have that type of connection,
- 00:48:39.573 --> 00:48:41.608
- That type of relationship with our creator, the types
- 00:48:41.608 --> 00:48:45.479
- Of things that he can do through that are incredible.
- 00:48:45.479 --> 00:48:48.582
- That's my journey is just,
- 00:48:48.582 --> 00:48:50.817
- A set of
- 00:48:51.051 --> 00:48:52.619
- Steps of obedience when when i hear god's voice,
- 00:48:52.619 --> 00:48:56.923
- There's been there's plenty of places
- 00:48:56.923 --> 00:48:58.592
- Where it was delayed obedience, which means it's disobedience.
- 00:48:58.592 --> 00:49:01.928
- But it was enough obedience in the right moments,
- 00:49:01.928 --> 00:49:04.264
- In the right times for him to kind of take
- 00:49:04.264 --> 00:49:06.833
- The gifts that he's given me and multiple
- 00:49:06.833 --> 00:49:09.169
- And do something with them,
- 00:49:09.169 --> 00:49:10.137
- Because i hear his voice and do that.
- 00:49:10.137 --> 00:49:12.406
- And so i feel like that's maybe like a way to sort of pull
- 00:49:12.406 --> 00:49:15.442
- Various parts of what you said all together.
- 00:49:15.442 --> 00:49:17.577
- Beautiful.
- 00:49:17.577 --> 00:49:19.079
- I, i, i want to,
- 00:49:19.079 --> 00:49:22.282
- For every person that raps on the praise program,
- 00:49:23.216 --> 00:49:26.219
- Then they have to pray at the end.
- 00:49:26.219 --> 00:49:27.788
- So i'm going to i'm going to ask you
- 00:49:27.788 --> 00:49:29.156
- To pray here to say i did the rap.
- 00:49:29.156 --> 00:49:30.824
- I think i think that should be a partnership here.
- 00:49:30.824 --> 00:49:32.926
- I do the rapping, you do the prayer.
- 00:49:32.926 --> 00:49:34.528
- You're the guest and i'm the host.
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- You rap now you're going to pray.
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- But but i think that this little tiny little moment
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- Of january, february of
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- Oh eight, working on the idea that you're
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- Taking the bible from just a desktop.
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- A mobile.
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- Device to a mobile device was a spark
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- That you jumped into that even,
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- You know, with just what would have been a tiny little sector
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- Of the world of people carrying blackberries at the time.
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- That wouldn't have been a giant,
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- You know, kind of world changing thing.
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- Little did we know.
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- You know, this, you know, piece of fruit
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- We carry around in our hands called apple
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- Would become a device that virtually.
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- And the smartphone in general,
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- Carried by virtually every person on earth.
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- Okay. you know, we do a lot of traveling.
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- We've been in africa,
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- And you walk around and somebody might be walking
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- With water on their heads, you know, still,
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- They don't have running water, but they do have a device.
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- Right.
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- And because communications is always going to find
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- A way to happen at light speed, and that little moment,
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- That little thing, what if god's word to be in
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- Everybody's hand?
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- What if, what if?
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- And that changed the trajectory of the kingdom of god in a way
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- That you could have never foreseen? that's right.
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- Thank you. love that.
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- Yeah.
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- Pray for the audience, if you would.
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- Please, sir. yeah.
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- Father, we, we thank you for everybody
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- That's watching and listening right now.
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- Father, i pray that you will
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- Just speak to them right here in this room. yes.
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- You've put dreams in their heart.
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- Yes. good ideas. visions.
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- Maybe some things that they've been hesitant to
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- Step into trying to figure out.
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- Get all the pieces in before they take the first step.
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- God, i pray that you'll give them the boldness
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- And the courage to step in to what you've called them to do.
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- Father, we're just so humbled,
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- Each of us, that we even have the privilege
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- To be used by you and your your big plan and your work.
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- Like you could do this all by yourself.
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- God, you don't need us.
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- But you choose to do your work in us.
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- And we see that in ephesians when we know that we said,
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- When paul writes that you can do infinitely more,
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- Immeasurably more than we can ask, think, or imagine.
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- But it's through your power at work within his father.
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- So i pray right now the people that are watching
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- That will just seek your wisdom, your guidance,
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- And step in boldness
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- Into what you've called them to do,
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- That they'll listen, to hear your voice, that they'll
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- They'll they'll be in your word,
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- Make it a part of their everyday life, god,
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- So they can walk in step with you.
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- Not not missing a step, but knowing
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- That this step is guided by you, you're giving them
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- This step for today, in this step for tomorrow.
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- Father, knowing that you're going
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- To have incredible fruit in doing a measurably
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- More through them, through their steps of faith.
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- Father, we pray this and we declare this in jesus's name.
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- Amen.
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- In conclusion, bobby,
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- The beyond a billion
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- Celebration that we,
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- Aired right here on tbn live.
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- And we're going to air it again. and thank you for the number.
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- Of times and and celebrate with it
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- With you.
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- In conclusion.
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- You you have to sit here today
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- And say, this is only god could have done this.
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- Yeah, only god could have done it.
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- And the only thing you can boast in
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- Is that god chose you to do something
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- In that mystery that he flows through us.
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- But i think the biggest takeaway
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- For me is you didn't run out and build a deck
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- And raise money.
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- You just got the kid
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- That was working on
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- Some little project in the church to start researching
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- How to do something, like you did in a back
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- Of a honda dealership in oklahoma city,
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- To build something you had no idea how to build.
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- And i think that's what god loves.
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- Yeah, i think that's what he loves to,
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- To show himself, because the word says
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- He has chosen the foolish to confound the wise.
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- And that's happened here, i love that.
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- Thank you for your bold steps. yes.
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- Even if you didn't even know what you're doing.
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- God got the glory.
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- And that's awesome.
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- Well, can i can i just add to it?
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- Because i don't want there to be any any confusion by anyone.
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- It is 1,000% something that god has done.
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- I often tell people,
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- If you used a group of people from silicon valley
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- To create the bible,
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- That people would have said that makes sense.
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- Those guys are smart in silicon valley.
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- If i had used a publisher in new york to do it,
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- They would say, that makes sense.
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- But the fact that he used a church in oklahoma
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- To do it is, i think, for one important purpose.
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- And that is it doesn't make sense.
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- Yeah, it could only be him. yeah.
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- He gets 100% of the credit.
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- It's nothing that we could have ever done on our own.
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- And so it's all him.
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- And you're right.
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- So many people have excuses about why they don't start.
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- My job, my goal in life is
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- I just want to always be tuned into what?
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- God's business, whatever it is.
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- And i believe that god brings his resources to his vision.
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- So i don't get worried about resources
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- Because he provides them.
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- He we have all kinds of people
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- That step up to fund what we do, and it's donor supported.
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- It's not ads, doesn't cost anything.
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- I think we should
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- Probably mention that because some people may not know
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- There's nothing for sale in youversion.
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- It's all completely free.
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- We just,
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- We just trust god when we step in faith,
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- And he provides, you know, each step along the way.
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- And so
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- There is a purity in that, that, i try to try to always walk
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- In, but, yeah, i'm an imperfect person for sure.
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- This is definitely not something i've done.
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- It's something that god's done for sure.
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- We can claim we're the generation
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- That can start putting in the phraseology
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- Of things that god wants to do in our generation
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- With the word billions.
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- Let's think billions.
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- Yeah. now, because that's what god wants to do.
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- He's proven it through you, bobby.
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- Thank you for what you've done.
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- Youversion, is available, and it's most likely
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- On all your phones already.
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- Thank you for what you've done.
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- Thank you. see you next time. bye bye.
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