Erick StakelbeckĀ breaks down the latest in the escalating Israel-Iran conflict with expert analysis and biblical perspectives.
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| Erick Stakelbeck: B-2 Bombers Strike Iran | Stakelbeck Tonight | June 22, 2025
- Great.
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- Hello
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- With all this going on in the world, the uncertainty and
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- Certainly some troubled times. but we've got to remember that
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- None of this is a surprise to god that he has us all in the
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- Palm of his hand. and even in our own lives, i've learned that
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- When you're in a place of peace, that's a place of power. i just
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- Encourage you to stay in faith and know that god is ordering
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- Our steps. and we certainly, like the scripture says, we pray
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- For the peace of jerusalem and pray for god's people in all
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- That part of the earth. and so we just know again, let's stay
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- In faith. let's believe. know that god's ordering our steps,
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- And he's going to keep you in the palm of his hand. that's our
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- Prayer for each one of you. peace and joy and god's victory.
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- God. iran's key nuclear enrichment facilities have been
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- Completely and totally obliterated. iran, the bully of
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- The middle east, must now make peace. history will record that
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- President trump acted to deny the world's most dangerous
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- Regime the world's most dangerous weapons. his
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- Leadership today has created a pivot of history that can help
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- Lead the middle east and beyond to a future of prosperity and
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- Peace. you are looking right now at a middle east that has
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- Changed literally overnight.
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- You are looking live at jerusalem, where earlier today,
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- Israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu made a visit to the
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- Western wall to pray and to thank god that iran's nuclear
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- Weapons program is no more. on saturday night, u.s. bombers
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- Destroyed iran's underground nuclear facility at fordo and
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- Finished the job that the israeli air force had started at
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- The natanz and isfahan sites. bibi and trump have joined
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- Forces once again to make history and to usher in a new
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- Middle east. i'm eric stackelbeck and this is a tbn
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- Special report. during that visit today to the western wall,
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- Bibi recited a special prayer for president trump, who made
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- The bold decision to come alongside israel and put an end
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- To iran's nuclear ambitions. on the president's order, seven
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- American b-2 stealth bombers traveled over 7000 miles from
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- The state of missouri all the way to iran to carry out
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- Operation midnight hammer. the bombers flew nonstop and
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- Refueled in midair. they returned to missouri today after
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- What president trump called a very successful attack and a job
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- Well done. he spoke to the american people from the white
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- House last night, a short time ago. the u.s. military carried
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- Out massive precision strikes on the three key nuclear facilities
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- In the iranian regime. our objective was the destruction of
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- Iran's nuclear enrichment capacity, and a stop to the
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- Nuclear threat posed by the world's number one state sponsor
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- Of terror. tonight, i can report to the world that the strikes
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- Were a spectacular military success. iran, the bully of the
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- Middle east, must now make peace. if they do not, future
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- Attacks will be far greater and a lot easier. and i want to just
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- Thank everybody and in particular god. i want to just
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- Say we love you, god, and we love our great military. protect
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- Them. god bless the middle east. god bless israel and god bless
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- America. thank you very much. thank you. now, as president
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- Trump thanked god publicly, jerusalem landmarks were lit up
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- With the red, white and blue. saturday night, in appreciation
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- Of the u.s. commander in chief's bold move against iran, here was
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- Prime minister netanyahu reacting to the news that iran's
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- Nuclear program had been destroyed. congratulations,
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- President trump. your bold decision to target iran's
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- Nuclear facilities with the awesome and righteous might of
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- The united states will change history in operation rising
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- Lion. israel has done truly amazing things. but in tonight's
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- Action against iran's nuclear facilities, america has been
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- Truly unsurpassed. it has done what no other country on earth
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- Could do. history will record that president trump acted to
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- Deny the world's most dangerous regime the world's most
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- Dangerous weapons. his leadership today has created a
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- Pivot of history that can help lead the middle east and beyond
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- To a future of prosperity and peace. president trump and i
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- Often say peace through strength. first comes strength,
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- Then comes peace. and tonight, president trump and the united
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- States acted with a lot of strength. president trump, i
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- Thank you. the people of israel thank you. the forces of
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- Civilization. thank you. god bless america. god bless israel.
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- And may god bless our unshakable alliance, our unbreakable faith.
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- History has been made, and a grave threat to the free world
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- Has been eliminated. but the battle is not over. israel and
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- Iran continue to trade heavy blows, and the iranian regime
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- Shows no signs that it wants a cease fire, even as its military
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- Capabilities are being wiped out and its regime teeters on the
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- Brink of collapse. so what comes next? will iran respond to the
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- American strikes? will the iranian people rise up and take
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- Their country back? and how should we be praying for the
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- Situation right now? over the next hour, we'll be joined by
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- Experts and christian leaders to answer those urgent questions.
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- We begin in jerusalem, where our tbn israel correspondent, yair
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- Pinto, is standing by. yeah. thanks, as always, for joining
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- Us in the middle of the night in israel. hey, massive news.
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- Obviously, game changing region, changing history, making
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- President trump coming alongside israel and destroying iran's
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- Nuclear weapons program. what's the buzz like right now on the
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- Ground in jerusalem? yeah, the people of israel i know are
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- Thrilled about this operation. first of all, eric, it's great
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- To be here. and i want to say, first and foremost, thank you to
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- All the people of the united states of america and to your
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- Military for joining with the idf in striking these terrible
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- Regime, their nuclear facilities. and really, we
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- Really appreciate the support. and we need you in this fight.
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- So the whole country of israel waited for the day that the
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- United states will join this battle against this evil country
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- That is sponsoring terrorism, not just in israel, not just in
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- The middle east, but also throughout the whole world. so
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- It's just amazing to fight side by side with the israeli air
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- Force and the united states of america. and this is not a
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- Surprise or something that we haven't planned for. this was
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- Planned. the two air forces were preparing for this specific
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- Site, for this specific operation more than a year ago.
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- And it's amazing to see it coming to fruition today. this
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- War is not over yet. eric just 10s before going live, i
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- Received alerts on my phone that i need to be within the vicinity
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- Of a bomb shelter because the islamic republic of iran
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- Launched another barrage of rockets towards israel. so far i
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- Do not have alerts and sounds of alarms here in my community, but
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- In other locations in the country of israel, people are
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- Rushing to the bomb shelters as we are speaking. this war is not
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- Over. israel and the united states struck the islamic
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- Republic of iran hard and dismantling their nuclear
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- Facilities, but they still have about 50% of their ballistic
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- Missile program. and then they also have other weapons that we
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- Did not touch yet in this war. and we can touch on this later
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- On in this report. eric. yeah, yeah, you're number one. we are
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- Praying for you for god's divine iron dome around you, your
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- Family and the people of israel right now. and number two, look,
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- Iran, it's no wonder that the u.s. came alongside israel in
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- This. iran threatens both the u.s. and israel, and ultimately
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- It was the united states. and that iranian ideology that was,
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- In their words, the great satan. so a wise move by president
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- Trump, about 45 seconds left. you'll be back with us later in
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- The show. you anticipate iran continuing with these missile
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- Barrages now that their nuclear facilities have been destroyed?
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- Yes, i do. the islamic republic is now at fear. they're afraid
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- For their survival internally and also in front of the whole
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- World. and the only way that they can project some kind of
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- Strength in this situation is to carry out and launch more rocket
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- Attacks, more attempts at terrorism attacks, if it's via
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- Lone terrorist cells towards israel or towards israelis
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- Around the world, and now also towards the united states
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- Citizens around the world, not just in the middle east. and
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- Also they still have a huge naval force that can disrupt
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- Multiple naval shipments, oil shipments. so they can still
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- Create a lot of damage and disrupt whatever is happening in
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- The strait of hormuz, where the majority of the oil that is
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- Transported around the world is moved through. so they still
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- Have a lot more damage that they can still do if they continue
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- This path of war and destruction. yeah, the job is
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- Not done yet, but a major blow dealt to the world's number one
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- State sponsor of terrorism last night. yeah. stay safe, my
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- Friend. we will see you back here in a little bit. joining us
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- Now is our good friend, doctor robert jeffress, senior pastor
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- Of first baptist church in dallas and host of the pathway
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- To victory show, seen right here on tbn. doctor jeff, it's great
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- To see you as always. and look, you know president trump very
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- Well. what do you think went into his decision here? this was
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- Obviously a bold decision. peace through strength in real time
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- Before our very eyes. tell us a bit about the thinking president
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- Trump's worldview on issues like this in confronting a threat
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- Like iran's nuclear program. well, i sure don't want to
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- Pretend to speak for donald trump or be able to read his
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- Mind, but i know what he did this week was out of conviction,
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- Out of a desire to keep america safe and to keep the world safe.
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- And when the president was getting hammered the last two
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- Weeks, even from some within his own coalition about his support
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- For israel, i texted the president thursday, and i just
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- Assured him that there are millions of christians voting
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- And who are praying for him. that's why they voted for him.
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- They were praying for him, and they are trusting him to make
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- The right decision. and i think we can all say saturday night,
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- President trump made the right decision when he chose to
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- Unconditionally support israel. you know, eric, a lot of
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- Christians are confused about this. i remember seeing tucker
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- Carlson debating with ted cruz on that viral clip and saying,
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- Why should christians support israel? and what does it mean to
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- Support israel? you supporting the government and you
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- Supporting the people? and he was ridiculing ted cruz. well,
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- Let me help tucker out and say why it's important we think
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- About this biblically. to support israel means, first of
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- All, we support israel's right to exist. iran doesn't believe
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- Israel should exist. she wants to wipe israel off the face of
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- The earth. but god is the one who created israel, and god is
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- The one who said she'll endure forever. and secondly,
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- Supporting israel means supporting her right to exist in
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- The land that god has given her. contrary to what the liberal
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- Elites tell you, israel did not steal this land from the
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- Palestinians. that's the narrative of the liberals.
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- Israel just came into being 50 years ago and stole the land. no
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- History as well as archeology show us that israel was in this
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- Land 3000 years ago. it's a land that god gave it. and if we want
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- To be as a nation on the right side of history and on the right
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- Side of god, we will support israel. and i just have to say,
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- I am so grateful for our president and what he did last
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- Night in giving glory to god. i have never heard a us president,
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- Republican or democrat, say, i thank god and i just want to say
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- We love you, god. that was an amazing statement and i think
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- Reveals the heart of our president. yeah. amen. doctor
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- Jeffress on all counts. and you mentioned, look, the biblical
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- Principle laid out in genesis 12 three. god is very clear. i will
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- Bless those who bless israel. on the flip side, he'll curse those
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- Who curse israel. we see it in real time right now with iran
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- Being cursed for their jihad against israel going back
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- Decades and now the united states. do you think we're on
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- The verge with strong, bold leadership that again honors god
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- Publicly? key point there. do you think we're on the verge
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- Coming alongside israel? good things happening of a
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- Renaissance in america, a resurgence, a revival here.
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- Maybe, eric. but if we are, it's going to be a short lived one. i
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- Mean, we know the way this story ends. it ends great for
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- Christians. jesus said, in this world you'll have tribulation,
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- But be of good cheer, for i have overcome the world. people are
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- Asking the question, does all of this signal? we're living in the
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- End times? as you and i have discussed before, eric, we're
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- Not technically in the period of the end times that begins with
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- The rapture and ends with the return of christ to earth. but
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- We are in what the bible calls the last days. and every event
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- That happens moves us closer from that last days until the
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- End times. the important time for us is to be hopeful. you
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- Know, peter said, be ready to give an answer to anyone who
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- Asks you for the hope that is within you. and when
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- Non-christians around us wring their hands and wonder and fear
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- About the future, we can point people just like the president
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- Did to god and the assurance that god is in control. yeah,
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- About 30s left. these are, as you just laid out, doctor
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- Jeffress. people have a tendency maybe to get frightened, but at
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- The end of the day, these are encouraging times, right?
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- Because god is clearly moving about. 30s left. well that's
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- Right. you know, the darker the night, the brighter the light. i
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- Think about the apostle paul. he was conflicted. he said, i'm not
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- Sure whether i'd go to heaven, rather go to heaven or stay here
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- In heaven. i'll be with christ here on earth. i get to be a
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- Witness for him. for me to live as christ and to die is gain.
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- That ought to be the attitude of every believer. this isn't the
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- End. it may not even be the beginning of the end, but it is
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- The end of the beginning. yeah. well said. and last request, can
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- You take us out right now with a prayer? you bet. father, we
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- Thank you for what has happened in israel, for the way you've
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- Used our military and used our president to preserve the nation
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- Of israel and to take care of our world. but we know all of
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- This is temporary. we pray that all we do might lead people to
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- Christ. thank you for trinity broadcasting network and the
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- Worldwide impact they are having in reaching people in these last
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- Days with the glorious gospel of jesus christ. it's in christ's
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- Name that we pray. amen. amen. doctor jeffress, thank you so
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- Much. we'll see you again soon. god bless. keep up the great
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- Work. and joining us now is our good friend lisa daftari, editor
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- In chief of the foreign desk. lisa's family originally hails
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- From iran, but she's here in america now, doing incredible
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- Work calling attention to this totalitarian regime in tehran.
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- How the main victims of the regime have been the iranian
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- People. lisa, great to see you. and you and i have talked about
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- This for years now. okay. is this a golden opportunity now
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- For the iranian people finally to rise up against this regime
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- And become free? can we see it? absolutely. i mean, look, if
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- There was ever a golden opportunity, the moment that
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- Could potentially bring about significant, meaningful change
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- For the iranian people, that is. now does that make it easy? does
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- It make it without its challenges? no. as a matter of
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- Fact, the regime actually knows that the momentum that the
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- People could have, because there's such a large number of
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- Disenchanted iranians, the regime's biggest challenge has
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- Always been worrying about a grassroots movement that the
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- People should rise up. and because of that, 2 or 3 days
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- Into this war, middle of last week, the regime came out and
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- Made a statement telling all the basij, they're the thugs of the
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- Regime and all of the anti-riot police to be on standby around
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- The clock because they will lash out, there will be backlashes,
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- And there will be consequences to pay for those who dare to
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- Stand up to the regime. that being said, people around the
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- World have all eyes on the iranian people and what will be
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- Next. just today our president tweeted about regime change. and
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- As you and i both know, in the 20 some odd years that we both
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- Have been covering the iran portfolio, the term regime
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- Change has had this ptsd, this triggering effect for lawmakers
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- Here in the united states because of the failed attempts
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- We had, whether it was in iraq or afghanistan. you can add
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- Libya and syria to that list as well. i just wrote an op ed last
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- Week saying not all regime changes are created equal. the
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- Iran case is highly different. the people in iran are not
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- Tribal. they all pretty much want the same thing. they want
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- Democracy. they want freedoms, they want basic human rights.
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- And most of all, they want secularism away from theocracy,
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- Away from the sharia law, away from the harshness and the
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- Brutality that they have experienced for 46 years. lisa.
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- Well said. and by the way, as you mentioned, president trump
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- Tweeted out on his truth social account, i should say earlier.
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- May make iran great again. and look, if the ayatollah, he seems
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- To be perhaps on his last legs. he's 86 years old. he's had
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- Health problems over the years. if the ayatollah is on his way
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- Out, do we have perhaps? i don't want to say government in
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- Waiting, but some credible, democratic minded leaders who
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- Could replace ayatollah. what about maybe a reza pahlavi, for
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- Instance, the son of the shah. he's based right now here in
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- America in the washington, d.c. area. is that someone we could
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- See, maybe take control in iran and usher in a new age for the
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- Iranian people, right. and he himself has been quite active in
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- Giving the iranian people inside and outside iran that optimism
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- To say things can be different. things can be better. look, he
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- Is western educated. he speaks multiple languages. most of all,
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- He understands what the iranian people have gone through. and
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- For that reason, you know, he he can be at the very least a
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- Catalyst, a symbolic figure to take the iranian people into
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- Their next chapter. there have been polls that have been
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- Conducted inside and outside iran, but more importantly,
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- Inside iran, that show that if an election were held today, he
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- In fact would be the frontrunner on the streets. when we have
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- Seen protests over the last few years especially, they are
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- Calling for him. they're saying, will you come back to iran? will
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- You come back to us? and that is it's astounding because. eric,
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- As you know, the statistic that we always throw around is that
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- More than two thirds of the population inside iran is under
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- The age of 45, meaning that they never lived under the shah of
- 00:21:26.838 --> 00:21:30.875
- Iran. they never had any government, but the one that
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- They currently live under. and to think that there is this
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- Movement of nostalgia to go back to the music of the 70s, the
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- Culture of the 70s, and of course, the government of the
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- 70s. not to say that they would want a monarchy, not to say that
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- They're the government of the shah was without its faults. but
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- In comparison, they they they view that time period, the time
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- Period of their parents and grandparents as just this
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- Utopia. and i've interviewed so many iranians who say, you know,
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- Our parents generation lost our country, and we're going to be
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- The ones to get it back. so it's a lot of optimism. but also,
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- They're living under a war right now. the iranian people are very
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- Much scared. the last week plus has been quite scary for them.
- 00:22:14.318 --> 00:22:19.790
- Obviously no bomb shelters, no protection from the government.
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- And in fact, now they're worried that the government will turn
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- Around and the consequences will be for the iranian people to
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- Pay. people will be accused of being spies for israel. people
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- Will be accused of collaborating with israel if they come out
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- Onto the streets in any form of protest, they're afraid of the
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- Consequences there as well. so tough times ahead. but, you
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- Know, we have we have every right to dream. dream for the
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- Iranian people, dream with the iranian people, and to at least
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- Allow them to have their own futures designed by themselves
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- And chosen by themselves, and that they should live free from
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- This tyranny. yeah. precarious time right now, lisa. no doubt
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- It seems the regime may not go quietly into the night. we shall
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- See. but you mentioned the times of the shah, when iran had a
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- Great alliance with israel, great relationship with the
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- United states. about 30s left. do you see the regime trying
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- Desperately here to cling on to power? is that this? again,
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- They're not going to go quietly? is that the sense you get about
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- 30s left? absolutely. and i've said this many times. they are
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- Sadistic, not suicidal. everything that they do from
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- Having their terror proxies and wanting to keep that all the
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- Wars off of iran's soil, to not allowing any protesters onto the
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- Streets to every single move, the nuclear program, everything
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- Is designed for self-preservation. they want to
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- Stay in power and they will do anything they can. and it's
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- Surprisingly russia, china, hezbollah, their own pet
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- Project, who they gifted 150,000 missiles to, didn't fire one
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- Shot to defend them. so they're isolated, they are alone and
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- They are desperate. that is not a good combination for this type
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- Of regime. so we shall see very difficult days and months ahead
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- In this war. but again, there's still room for optimism for the
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- People of iran, for the region, for cyber accords. that is the
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- Relationship that could be had between the israeli people and
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- The people of iran in a future government. imagine the
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- Potential that could be unleashed with a free and
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- Democratic iran in the region. lisa, great breakdown folks. be
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- Sure to follow lisa on x and across social media. editor in
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- Chief of the foreign desk. lisa god bless. keep up your great
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- Work for the iranian people and for freedom. speaking of which,
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- Working for the iranian people working for the gospel in iran,
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- Our good friend reza safir. of course. pastor reza heads up tbn
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- Nejat beaming the gospel into iran, one of the most forbidden
- 00:24:48.773 --> 00:24:53.778
- Places on earth for christians. and yet, as all this chaos
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- You've been watching over the past week or so continues to
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- Unfold, christianity is spreading like wildfire in iran.
- 00:25:01.385 --> 00:25:06.791
- It's the world's fastest growing church, and pastor reza is a big
- 00:25:06.791 --> 00:25:10.494
- Part of that. reza, great to see you and what we saw last night.
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- The nuke, the nuclear facility is being destroyed. a massive
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- Historic moment. what does this mean for the people of iran and
- 00:25:18.703 --> 00:25:23.340
- In particular, reza, the underground church in iran,
- 00:25:23.340 --> 00:25:26.911
- Which is thriving? it's good to be with you, eric. one thing is
- 00:25:26.911 --> 00:25:32.750
- For certain that the iranian people have been under
- 00:25:32.750 --> 00:25:36.287
- Oppression for the past 46 years of this evil regime. and, you
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- Know, there are so many people were celebrating israeli strikes
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- Over these various military sites, especially taking out
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- These generals, the military and irgc generals. but my thinking
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- Is, is this time for this regime to change, or is this regime is
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- This government appointed by god? is the bible says in romans
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- Chapter 13, verse one, that no authorities exist except from
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- God, and if it is of god, if it's not, i think this is their
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- End time. if they remain, and if they come back and become
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- Stronger militarily, is there a purpose for their being? and,
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- You know, i have a theory on the subject, and sometimes you and i
- 00:26:23.567 --> 00:26:27.505
- Are like, i like to open our bible and get into it from the
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- Old testament to the new testament, because we sometimes
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- Look at the natural and we miss the spiritual part of things,
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- And sometimes we're too political for our own good, not
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- Realizing that god is the one who's moving these chess pieces
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- All around. remember that the purpose of god from the
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- Beginning of the time, from the time adam disobeyed god, has
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- Been the salvation of mankind. and so israel is the key part in
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- This whole thing. and for the past 2000 years, we have not
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- Seen any move of god. i'm talking about the spiritual
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- Move. we've seen the building of the nation of israel. and in
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- 1948, which was an absolute miracle. but we haven't seen a
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- What the bible paul says in romans that the gospel must be
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- Preached to them first. we haven't done that. and so how is
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- God accomplishing his will for them, for the jews to accept
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- Messiah yeshua as their messiah? and would this government be
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- Part of that plan? i mean, this these are interesting, amazing
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- Time for us to look into the scripture and find out what god
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- Has in mind. bible times for sure. and every time you and i
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- Talk, reza, i remind everyone, hey, iran is a bible land.
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- Modern day iran is ancient persia. we're talking. hey
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- Folks, open up your bible. we're talking esther, mordecai,
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- Darius, cyrus. that all unfolded in iran. it was once known as
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- Persia. and. yes. yeah. haggai. exactly. and, reza, you've made
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- The point to me many times, eric. god is not done with iran.
- 00:28:09.640 --> 00:28:14.378
- Talk more about god's prophetic destiny for iran and the iranian
- 00:28:14.378 --> 00:28:19.884
- People. you know, look at the bible. we see in the time of the
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- Past, iran has been the key element of saving the jewish
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- People from total annihilation twice in the history, one time
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- In the seventh century, and then in the time of cyrus. now go
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- Over to jeremiah chapter 49, and there's a prophecy about elam.
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- Now, there were three kingdoms that came together elamite,
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- Medes, and persians by the leadership of cyrus. under cyrus
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- Leadership, he brought these three kingdoms into one kingdom.
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- Jeremiah chapter 49 talks about a move of god in the end time
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- Over the elam, which is the southern, if you would, western
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- Part of the country and the move that we have seen in iran the
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- Past 15 years, i do not know, out of the knowledge that i have
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- In the really in the world, in the movement of revival in the
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- World to such an extent that jesus has appeared so much to so
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- Many muslims. i'm talking about millions of people have had a
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- Dream, have had a vision, have had a personal appearance of the
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- Lord himself. why would god, out of all the 50 islamic nations,
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- Choose one nation, iran, and pour out his spirit upon this
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- Group of people? and that we have seen in the modern time of
- 00:29:44.068 --> 00:29:48.639
- The bible a revival that has been unheard of. millions of
- 00:29:48.639 --> 00:29:53.711
- Muslims have converted to the faith of christ. why is that? i
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- Mean, that's one key element in this whole plan with israel. and
- 00:29:58.115 --> 00:30:02.386
- I think just like god said to pharaoh that i have raised you
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- Up to show my power. i believe god has raised this government
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- To show two things. number one, to show the reality of a nature
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- Of an islamic faith, how evil that is, and bring millions of
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- Muslims to his kingdom. and number two, to bring fear to the
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- Hearts of jews, to seek for god's salvation. because the
- 00:30:25.709 --> 00:30:29.646
- Bible says when he strikes them, they turn, and they sought after
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- Him. i think this is a prophetic time for israel as well as the
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- Muslim world, for the children of to the faith
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- Of god. reza, incredible, encouraging, amazing work you're
- 00:30:45.796 --> 00:30:50.734
- Doing at tbn. a job, my friend. keep it up. you're making a
- 00:30:50.734 --> 00:30:53.904
- Difference. reza. the world's fastest growing church is in
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- Iran. yes, iran. you can't stop the gospel, reza. thank you. god
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- Bless you, my friend. we'll see you again soon. thank you. and
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- Recently in jerusalem, talking iran. matt crouch. ambassador
- 00:31:05.416 --> 00:31:10.821
- Mike huckabee and pastor ed young broke down what should be
- 00:31:10.821 --> 00:31:14.291
- Done about iran. and folks, this was a little while ago. a few
- 00:31:14.291 --> 00:31:18.062
- Weeks ago. they were ahead of the curve. take a look. day one
- 00:31:18.062 --> 00:31:23.500
- Of your sixth term as prime minister. what do you need to
- 00:31:23.500 --> 00:31:29.506
- Accomplish for the future of israel and on behalf of the
- 00:31:29.506 --> 00:31:33.877
- State? well, the first three things are easy. block iran.
- 00:31:33.877 --> 00:31:37.247
- Block iran. block iran. i have a very dear pastor friend, ed
- 00:31:37.247 --> 00:31:44.321
- Young, who represents a part of the american mindset that we're
- 00:31:44.321 --> 00:31:50.761
- Tired of having to listen about this iran. your concerns in
- 00:31:50.761 --> 00:31:55.399
- Regard to iran are pastor ed, very clear. and i would say this
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- To the ambassador, and i think i could speak for 90% of the
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- Citizens of the united states of america. something must be done.
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- Israel has been the land of the lord and how it has survived in
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- All of this, with infinite patience. in my opinion, i think
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- It's time to take care of the problem of iran. i don't think
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- They have a choice. i don't think they're going to
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- Negotiate. they don't give up all their nuclear stuff. so i
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- Just want to speak for the people that a lot of us know and
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- Represent. now is the hour to take care of the head of the
- 00:32:31.034 --> 00:32:34.972
- Snake. last week, when the president was on his way to the
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- Funeral of the pope and he was asked, will america be dragged
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- Into a war over iran? and he said, we're not going to be
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- Dragged into anything if they don't dismantle their nuclear
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- Capacity. nobody will be dragging us. we'll be leading
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- It. from their lips to god's ears, folks, the iranian nuclear
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- Program is no more. after president trump's bold decision
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- Last night, joining us now to break it down is the one and
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- Only pastor greg laurie, senior pastor of harvest christian
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- Fellowship and host of harvest with greg laurie right here on
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- Tbn. pastor greg, always great to see you. it seems to me that
- 00:33:15.312 --> 00:33:18.882
- President trump is in office for such a time as this to deal with
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- Problems like iran's nuclear weapons program. can you talk
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- About, number one, the boldness of this decision? he had a lot
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- Of pushback. and number two, his acknowledgment of god really
- 00:33:31.795 --> 00:33:35.132
- Struck me at the white house last night. break that down a
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- Bit for us. yes, eric, good to be with you. i'm with, of cours,
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- We all. it was actually matt crouch who called me, says, what
- 00:33:42.806 --> 00:33:46.276
- Are you doing? i was watching some random tv show. he says,
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- Turn on the news. and i didn't realize that, that we had hit
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- Those nuclear nuclear reactors there in iran where they were
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- Enriching the uranium. but we all waited, you know, with bated
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- Breath to hear what the president had to say. and then
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- He surprised us all when he said he, of course, thanked the
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- Members of the military, thank the israelis for their
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- Cooperation. but then he thanked god. but then he said, we love
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- You, god, or we love god. and i never heard a president say
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- Anything like that. and, eric, i believe that, you know, i've had
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- The privilege to be with the president in smaller settings on
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- Numerous occasions in the oval office and elsewhere. and i
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- Believe that he knows, because he has acknowledged it publicly,
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- That god spared his life from an assassin's bullet. and i don't
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- Think we can even begin to imagine the pressure that is on
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- The leader of the free world as he sits behind that resolute
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- Desk in the oval office, with the weight of the world on his
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- Shoulders. and i know he values prayer. and you can see that was
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- Not an easy decision for him. and but i believe it was the
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- Right decision. and i think he's acting in the interest of the
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- American people in the interest of israel, but maybe in the
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- Interest of the free world, because pretty much iran is
- 00:35:08.625 --> 00:35:13.397
- Behind so much of the terrorism that is happening globally. and
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- So it's time that something was done. i just recently did an
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- Interview with mike johnson, speaker of the house, and we
- 00:35:21.672 --> 00:35:24.508
- Discussed this very topic. and i was asking, why have we not
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- Taken action? he says, i know, in other words, cut off the head
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- Of the snake. i said, well, i wasn't going to say it quite
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- That way, but yes, exactly. he says, that's what the president
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- Is inclined to do, but he's listening to other voices. you
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- Know, he wants them to speak into the situation. so i think
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- The president took all that information and he made a
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- Decision. and thank god for the for the success of this mission.
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- Thank god things could have gone wrong as we know these things
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- Can happen. thank god that our service members all got back
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- Safely and they hit military targets, not civilian targets.
- 00:35:59.142 --> 00:36:04.548
- And so i think it's i think god has has his hand on our
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- President. and i think we all need to be praying for him if we
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- Voted for him or not. yeah. and the world is now safer place as
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- A result of that bold decision last night. pastor greg, i've
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- Compared president trump and prime minister netanyahu to
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- Churchillian type figures like winston churchill saw the
- 00:36:24.434 --> 00:36:27.237
- Gathering storm of nazi germany. he acted boldly against it.
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- President trump's been talking about a nuclear iran for ten
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- Years, bibi for about 25 years, and they joined forces to take
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- It out. an amazing historic moment. hey, what does all this
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- Mean for israel, by the way? and defeating its enemies left and
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- Right? i mean, look, that iranian axis has collapsed, and
- 00:36:46.289 --> 00:36:49.559
- It's a new day in the middle east, it seems. how do you see
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- The region? and what does this all mean? prophetically?
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- Potentially? well, ultimately, when we read in ezekiel 3738, of
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- Course, one of the signs of the last days is god regathers the
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- Jewish people from the four corners of the planet. that's
- 00:37:04.608 --> 00:37:07.844
- Happened may 14th, 1948. they became a nation. but then the
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- Bible also predicts that they would be attacked by a large
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- Force to their north, identified as magog. many scholars happen
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- To believe that's modern day russia. i don't think we can say
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- With absolute certainty, but this force known as magog will
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- Attack them. but what we can say with certainty is one of the
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- Allies of russia will be persia, which was the name of iran until
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- 1935. so it would appear that iran is going to rear its head
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- Again in an end time scenario of people have asked me, do i think
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- That this the chain of events happening right now will lead to
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- The scenario of ezekiel 37? and i think i would describe it
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- Maybe more as a foreshadowing than a fulfillment. not that it
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- Couldn't turn into that, but at the same time, it seems like a
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- Foreshadowing. you know, eric, it seems to me every time we
- 00:38:01.932 --> 00:38:04.468
- Turn around, there's another sign of the times. there's
- 00:38:04.468 --> 00:38:08.038
- Another event happening that has prophetic significance. and
- 00:38:08.038 --> 00:38:11.975
- Jesus said it would be like labor pains for a woman. the
- 00:38:11.975 --> 00:38:15.612
- Closer they get together, the closer she is to the birth of
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- Her baby. and as these events get closer together and it seems
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- Like they are getting closer together, that's when we should
- 00:38:22.853 --> 00:38:26.823
- Look up for our redemption draws near. so let's pull the camera
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- Back. what are we supposed to do? first of all, don't freak
- 00:38:30.026 --> 00:38:33.096
- Out. jesus said, let not your heart be troubled, neither let
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- It be afraid. you believe in god. believe also in me and my
- 00:38:35.799 --> 00:38:39.669
- Father's house are many. dwelling places are mansions. if
- 00:38:39.669 --> 00:38:42.873
- I go, i will come again and receive you unto myself. so
- 00:38:42.873 --> 00:38:47.043
- Christ will come. a number two. we should be praying. we should
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- Pray for peace. i think sometimes people think that we
- 00:38:51.581 --> 00:38:55.185
- Christians want armageddon to break out, and nothing could be
- 00:38:55.185 --> 00:38:58.421
- Further from the truth. we care about our jewish friends and
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- Their safety and really the safety of the civilians of iran
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- That are under this tyrannical regime. but then thirdly, and i
- 00:39:06.096 --> 00:39:10.634
- Would really press this one, is we need to preach the gospel. i
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- Think, eric, a lot of people are scared right now. they're
- 00:39:15.038 --> 00:39:18.208
- Frightened. they don't know what's going on in this world.
- 00:39:18.208 --> 00:39:20.510
- And this is a moment for us to step in with the message of the
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- Gospel and tell them who jesus christ is. yeah. pastor greg,
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- Well said. amen to all. and can you take us out with a quick
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- Prayer? yes, father. we pray that this resolution will come
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- To an end. we pray you'll give wisdom to our president and to
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- Prime minister netanyahu. lord, we pray for a protection over
- 00:39:40.897 --> 00:39:46.069
- The nation of israel. we pray for protection over the united
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- States of america and over our military. and just give wisdom.
- 00:39:50.674 --> 00:39:55.812
- You've told us that we lack wisdom. we can ask of you, and
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- You'll give it generously. so we commit all of this to you. in
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- Jesus name we pray. amen. amen. pastor greg, thank you as
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- Always, folks. follow him on instagram across social media.
- 00:40:07.624 --> 00:40:10.560
- Watch him here. harvest with greg laurie. pastor greg, thanks
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- A lot. god bless you. we'll see you again soon. i believe we are
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- Heading back to jerusalem now with my dear friend chris
- 00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:20.837
- Mitchell. tbn news, middle east bureau chief, host of the
- 00:40:20.837 --> 00:40:24.140
- Jerusalem dateline show chris great to see you my friend.
- 00:40:24.140 --> 00:40:26.810
- Thanks for joining us in the middle of the night from god's
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- One and only holy city. hey chris, you've been covering this
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- For 25 years. you've been on the ground in jerusalem. what is
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- Your sense of the big historic moment last night? of course.
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- And what's the feeling like on the ground in israel right now?
- 00:40:40.123 --> 00:40:42.826
- It seems like a sea change and a major shift in the wake of the
- 00:40:42.826 --> 00:40:46.830
- Strikes against iran's nuclear program last night. yeah. well,
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- First of all, eric, it's great to be with you. and i, you know,
- 00:40:51.868 --> 00:40:55.572
- We've been covering this land for so long. and i remember when
- 00:40:55.572 --> 00:40:57.841
- You first came here, look how far we have come since then.
- 00:40:57.841 --> 00:41:01.511
- First of all, i would say that the mood here is gratefulness
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- And thankfulness that the u.s. has come in and taken out,
- 00:41:05.081 --> 00:41:08.885
- Especially fordo the main enrichment uranium facility, up
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- To 90% military grade. and i think what we're seeing is it's
- 00:41:13.790 --> 00:41:18.161
- Such so such history, biblical times, brother, and it's really
- 00:41:18.161 --> 00:41:23.566
- Incredible to see. i was thinking last night, you know,
- 00:41:23.566 --> 00:41:26.503
- We've seen the we've really been reporting on the, the these
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- Tentacles of iran, this islamic regime for so many years. hamas,
- 00:41:32.175 --> 00:41:37.447
- Hezbollah, the houthis, iran itself. and now we're seeing the
- 00:41:37.447 --> 00:41:42.185
- Dismemberment and the collapse. and maybe we will see regime
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- Change there in iran. but we're just seeing such an amazing
- 00:41:45.789 --> 00:41:49.059
- Thing. i was down yesterday in tel aviv at the site of one of
- 00:41:49.059 --> 00:41:53.530
- The missile strikes, and it's just something that israel can
- 00:41:53.530 --> 00:41:58.401
- Do, but they really don't have the wherewithal to really do all
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- That they can and want to for to come against israel. there was a
- 00:42:03.807 --> 00:42:09.212
- Siren that went off just a few minutes ago, but it was only one
- 00:42:09.212 --> 00:42:12.949
- Ballistic missile. so it seems like what the idf is doing,
- 00:42:12.949 --> 00:42:15.719
- Which is historic itself, just an incredible military operation
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- That we are, i think in day 11 of operation rising lion, and
- 00:42:20.056 --> 00:42:25.161
- They have taken out so much of the air defenses, so many of the
- 00:42:25.161 --> 00:42:28.398
- Ballistic missile and its launchers and, and i think with
- 00:42:28.398 --> 00:42:32.302
- The next week or so, eric, we may see so many of the targets
- 00:42:32.302 --> 00:42:36.906
- Will include the regime itself and its infrastructure. and
- 00:42:36.906 --> 00:42:39.743
- Maybe we'll see. many people are hoping and praying for the
- 00:42:39.743 --> 00:42:44.814
- Regime itself to collapse. yeah, that is a prayer, chris.
- 00:42:44.814 --> 00:42:47.417
- Absolutely. you've got a front row seat, of course, for all of
- 00:42:47.417 --> 00:42:51.521
- This in jerusalem when the dust settles, of course, as you just
- 00:42:51.521 --> 00:42:54.424
- Mentioned, missiles still flying when the dust settles. chris, do
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- You see the abraham accords expanding? i mean, it seems that
- 00:42:58.495 --> 00:43:01.698
- Everything is on the table now. saudi arabia, even syria,
- 00:43:01.698 --> 00:43:05.268
- Perhaps even lebanon, perhaps making peace with israel. do you
- 00:43:05.268 --> 00:43:09.572
- Think that could be in the near future? again, when the dust
- 00:43:09.572 --> 00:43:14.043
- Settles in this battle with iran, i do, eric, and could you
- 00:43:14.043 --> 00:43:18.548
- Believe this would have happened after october 7th? here we are
- 00:43:18.548 --> 00:43:21.518
- Over a year and a half later to see all these developments in
- 00:43:21.518 --> 00:43:25.421
- The region. i do believe that the abraham accords could very
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- Well expand. we know that many of these gulf nations, including
- 00:43:29.125 --> 00:43:33.663
- Saudi arabia, have been condemning israel about its
- 00:43:33.663 --> 00:43:36.933
- Attack on iran. but privately, i think they're celebrating as
- 00:43:36.933 --> 00:43:40.970
- Well. so that could be one thing. and i think the other
- 00:43:40.970 --> 00:43:43.940
- Thing, eric, could be and people are hoping and praying for this
- 00:43:43.940 --> 00:43:47.677
- As well, the cyrus accords, you know, you talked to reza earlier
- 00:43:47.677 --> 00:43:51.314
- Today about this ancient relationship between israel and
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- The people of persia. and could it be that one day and if this
- 00:43:55.351 --> 00:44:00.757
- Does regime does collapse, that there would be a government
- 00:44:00.757 --> 00:44:04.661
- Inside iran that would make peace with the people of israel?
- 00:44:04.661 --> 00:44:09.365
- We see that relationship, as reza was saying, you know, in in
- 00:44:09.365 --> 00:44:12.969
- The book of chronicles and ezra and throughout throughout the,
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- The, the hebrew scriptures that this relationship had been had
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- Been forged many years ago. and they and the kings of persia
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- Bless the people of israel. could we see that again? so
- 00:44:27.283 --> 00:44:30.253
- Abraham accords? yes, eric, i think expanding and perhaps even
- 00:44:30.253 --> 00:44:33.489
- The cyrus accords. chris. just incredible. hey, can you take us
- 00:44:33.489 --> 00:44:37.861
- Out about 30s left with a quick, quick prayer over the whole
- 00:44:37.861 --> 00:44:42.098
- Situation. father, we just thank you for what's happening. we
- 00:44:42.098 --> 00:44:46.436
- Thank you for president trump, prime minister netanyahu, and as
- 00:44:46.436 --> 00:44:49.839
- We say, born for such a time as this. we do pray for the people
- 00:44:49.839 --> 00:44:54.344
- Protection of the people of israel, the people of iran. we
- 00:44:54.344 --> 00:44:57.580
- Pray your purposes would unfold, father, in these perilous days
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- And let our hearts keep our eyes fixed on you, lord, the author
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- And finisher of our faith. in jesus name, amen. chris
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- Mitchell, thank you so much, my friend. we're praying for you as
- 00:45:10.526 --> 00:45:13.329
- Well, for safety, for you, your family, the entire tbn news
- 00:45:13.329 --> 00:45:16.699
- Team. chris, we can't thank you enough. god bless my friend. we
- 00:45:16.699 --> 00:45:19.836
- Will see you again soon. and we're staying in jerusalem right
- 00:45:19.836 --> 00:45:22.705
- Now folks. we're going a little bit across town with our good
- 00:45:22.705 --> 00:45:25.241
- Friend tbn israel correspondent yair pinto. yair is back with us
- 00:45:25.241 --> 00:45:28.912
- In the middle of the night. we can't thank you enough. my
- 00:45:28.912 --> 00:45:32.015
- Friend chris mitchell, our good friend from tbn, just mentioned
- 00:45:32.015 --> 00:45:34.517
- That some sirens had gone off recently. what's the latest you
- 00:45:34.517 --> 00:45:37.921
- Hear any more iranian missiles god forbid flying at this late
- 00:45:37.921 --> 00:45:41.925
- Hour. so eric no we had one iranian ballistic missile that
- 00:45:41.925 --> 00:45:48.298
- Was fired towards israel and it was successfully intercepted. we
- 00:45:48.298 --> 00:45:52.001
- Do not have reports of any casualties or any damage. that's
- 00:45:52.001 --> 00:45:56.639
- Something that is just amazing. i want to say really, thank you,
- 00:45:56.639 --> 00:46:00.209
- First of all, to god for protecting israel after 622 days
- 00:46:00.209 --> 00:46:05.281
- Of war, we start taking these interceptions for granted. but
- 00:46:05.281 --> 00:46:11.054
- Each rocket like that can cause extensive damage and basically
- 00:46:11.054 --> 00:46:16.159
- Destroy an entire neighborhood like the one in the middle of
- 00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:20.663
- Israel. i just visited that community a few days ago, and
- 00:46:20.663 --> 00:46:25.468
- You can see that it's all in rubble because of one ballistic
- 00:46:25.468 --> 00:46:29.172
- Missile. so we need to be thankful for everything that we
- 00:46:29.172 --> 00:46:32.608
- Have for every day, for every interception of these rockets.
- 00:46:32.608 --> 00:46:36.212
- And i think that's what the people of israel are feeling
- 00:46:36.212 --> 00:46:39.082
- Now, really grateful for the idf, for the iron dome, and in
- 00:46:39.082 --> 00:46:44.487
- General for god protecting us. this is something that the
- 00:46:44.487 --> 00:46:47.690
- Nation of israel is feeling now, a lot of thanks to god that
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- There is something above that is protecting us. sadly, not all of
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- Israel yet connected to jesus, to yeshua, their messiah. but
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- This is something that we should pray for because we are seeing
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- Miracles every day here in israel, from rockets that missed
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- Their targets, from rockets that landed near idf troops in the
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- Gaza strip or in lebanon and did not exploded. i've seen multiple
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- Miracles taking place in this war, from feeling peaceful and
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- Happy in the heart of khan yunis in the gaza strip, which is the
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- Darkest place spiritually, that i can ever imagine existed on
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- The face of this earth. god is moving. he is real, and he's
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- Performing bible grade level miracles today. just this war
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- Between israel and iran is like david versus goliath, and we see
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- That god's hand is at every step of this way. israel is ten times
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- Smaller than iran. israel is tiny compared to the islamic
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- Republic. and we are winning. we're winning against seven
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- Different fronts. and it's only because god is faithful to
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- Israel. and this is a time to look towards the jewish state.
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- If you need encouragement in your life and see that your god
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- Is faithful to israel and he is faithful to each and every one
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- Of you. eric, this is the situation here on the ground,
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- And i'm happy to be here at these times. and we're happy to
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- Have you, my friend. so well said on all counts. please go
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- Get some sleep. be safe. we're praying for your safety. yeah.
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- God bless you, my friend. we'll see you again soon. and joining
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- Us now, executive director of the foundation for defense of
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- Democracies, a think tank in washington, dc. our good friend
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- Jonathan schanzer has been following the iranian axis for
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- Literally decades. john, great to see you. you and i have been
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- Talking about this on and off camera for years now. the moment
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- Is here. the iranian regime, perhaps on the brink of
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- Collapse. its ring of fire is licking its wounds, and it's a
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- Smoldering heap of ruins. what's your take on everything we've
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- Seen transpire not only since october 7th, but in the past ten
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- Days alone. historic, monumental, a new middle east,
- 00:49:02.024 --> 00:49:06.796
- Historic, monumental, possibly a new middle east on the way.
- 00:49:06.796 --> 00:49:09.499
- Eric, i was actually in jerusalem when this war kicked
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- Off, and i will tell you that it is no simple thing to sit there
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- And wait for ballistic missiles to rain down on a city. and i
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- Will tell you that the israeli people have nerves of steel, but
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- They are defiant right now. they are. they are behind their
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- Military. they're behind their government 1,000%. they see the
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- Goals in front of them, and they see what the israeli military
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- Pulled off for the last nine days. and now they are
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- Cautiously optimistic. they're celebrating even as they have to
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- Run into shelters. they are celebrating the fact that donald
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- Trump made this fateful decision to attack the fordo nuclear
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- Facility with bunker busters. this was something that the
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- Israelis did not have the capability to do. the other two
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- Nuclear facilities also being attacked by the united states.
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- You get a sense that the israelis well, they probably did
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- About 75% of the really the hard grunt work. and then the us came
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- In and it looks like they just wrapped it all up. now. we're
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- Still waiting for a battle damage assessment. there was one
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- This morning out of the pentagon, but i think we still
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- Probably have a few questions about. looks like we lost
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- Jonathan there, which is sad because folks, he is one of the
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- Top middle east experts in the world. no doubt john's great.
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- We'll see him again soon. you can watch him, by the way, on
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- The stackelbeck tonight show. jonathan is a regular guest
- 00:50:44.026 --> 00:50:46.062
- Every weeknight monday through friday right here on tbn. we
- 00:50:46.062 --> 00:50:49.065
- Have stackelbeck tonight. we've got the rosenberg report every
- 00:50:49.065 --> 00:50:52.635
- Thursday and saturday night from jerusalem. and of course, you
- 00:50:52.635 --> 00:50:55.438
- Saw them. our tbn israel correspondent pinto now is
- 00:50:55.438 --> 00:50:59.742
- Co-host of a great show every thursday night, 9:30 p.m.
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- Eastern time. mark your calendars called boots on the
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- Ground. hey, look! the magic of live tv. jonathan chandler is
- 00:51:06.582 --> 00:51:09.852
- Back with us. okay, john, you're making a great point about the
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- Damage that the us did last night and the moment we're in
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- Right now. hey, to add to that quick question here, i've been
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- Thinking about this a lot over the past 24 hours. this seems to
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- Send a message beyond just the middle east and iran. you got to
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- Think, john, that russia, china and north korea also took notice
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- To president trump's bold moves last night. they definitely have
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- The crank, as we're calling them, china, russia, iran, north
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- Korea have been pretty quiet. and i do think that the
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- President has made an emphatic statement here that the us will
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- Not cower in the face of this new axis that is rising. they
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- Would like to erode american power, and we cannot afford to
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- Let american power lapse. the world order depends on the
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- United states remaining strong, standing up for its allies,
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- Standing up for embattled democracies. obviously, israel
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- Qualifies as one of those. and so this is a remarkable moment,
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- Possibly bending the arc of history in the middle east,
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- Maybe even around the world, because now these enemies of the
- 00:52:18.521 --> 00:52:21.757
- United states understand that donald trump is not just
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- Unpredictable. he's deadly serious. yeah, we obviously,
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- John don't have a crystal ball, but how do you see this playing
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- Out maybe next week or two? is this winding down or is iran
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- Going to respond? how do you see this playing out in the near
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- Future? israel has accomplished, obviously, a lot of its goals
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- For operation rising lion. could we see this war come to an end
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- Soon, or will this be stretching out for some time? well, you
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- Know, i think there are a couple of options here. we're at a, at
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- A, at a pretty complicated, tricky fork in the road. we'd
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- Love to see the islamic republic capitulate. just surrender
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- Because they have been defeated. they don't even control their
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- Own airspace right now. their nuclear program is defeated.
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- They should be waiting, waving that white flag right now. and
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- They're not. so then that raises the question of, well, what else
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- Could we see here? we could see a war of attrition between iran
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- And israel, where iran is firing, you know, hundreds of
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- Missiles trying to just break down israeli air defenses. and
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- The israelis all the while go hunting for all those ballistic
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- Missiles and all those missile launchers. and we could see that
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- Play out for quite some time. that is what we want to try to
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- Avoid at all costs. that's a damaging war for israel and for
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- The middle east. but there are some other things that can
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- Happen. you could have some people within the regime who
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- Decide, you know what, we don't want to die for ali khamenei,
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- And we're going to topple him. right? so you have some kind of
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- Internal coup that's feasible right now. and i'm sure the cia
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- Is working those contacts right now, day in and day out, trying
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- To figure out how they can bring down khamenei quietly and
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- Without a big fuss. the other way that this could play out,
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- Eric, is you could finally begin to see the people of iran rise
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- Up, realizing that their regime is a paper tiger. yeah, john.
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- Well said. we got to run. technical difficulties cannot
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- Stop jonathan chandler great job john. we'll see you again soon.
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- And folks, look, we've got your marching orders here. we've got
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- Prayer points right. we've been talking about this throughout
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- The past hour. pray for israel. of course, we have a biblical
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- Mandate to pray for the peace of jerusalem. pray for wisdom for
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- Our leaders, for president trump, for bibi. the things i've
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- Been praying for have been wisdom, discernment, and clarity
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- For president trump, of course, and for prime minister
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- Netanyahu. and here's a theme we've been talking about the
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- Past 60 minutes. pray for the people of iran, the world's
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- Fastest growing church. again, despite that horrible
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- Repression, you can't stop the gospel. if history shows us
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- Anything, it shows us that. so there you have it. your marching
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- Orders, prayer works. and it's for such a time as this, it goes
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- Without saying. we have a front row seat here at tbn for these
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- Bible times that we are living in. thanks so much for joining
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- Us. stay in prayer until next time. god bless you and we'll
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- See you soon.
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