Special Report: Conflict in the Middle East

March 4, 2026 | 52:30

Erick Stakelbeck hosts TBN's Special Report on the Conflict in the Middle East.

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| Special Report: Conflict in the Middle East | March 4, 2026
  • I'm eric
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  • Stickleback, and this is a tbn special report.
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  • The united states has dubbed it operation epic fury.
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  • Israel is calling it operation roaring lion together.
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  • The goal is to destroy iran's nuclear
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  • And ballistic missile threat once and for all,
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  • And to hopefully topple iran's regime in the process.
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  • The early hours of the war saw a big development on that front.
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  • Israeli airstrikes eliminated dozens of top iranian officials
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  • At the very outset of the war, including, most importantly,
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  • Ayatollah khamenei, the longtime supreme leader of iran.
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  • President trump shared on truth, social quote, khomeini,
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  • One of the most evil people in history, is dead.
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  • This is not only justice for the people of iran,
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  • But for all great americans and those people
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  • From many countries throughout the world
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  • That have been killed or mutilated by khamenei
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  • And his gang of bloodthirsty thugs.
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  • Earlier, the president encouraged
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  • The iranian people to rise up and claim their freedom.
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  • But the regime is not going down without a fight.
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  • Iran has launched at least 500 ballistic missiles at israel
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  • So far, and a woman in tel aviv was killed in one barrage.
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  • Iran has also launched missiles and drones at neighboring
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  • Arab muslim countries,
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  • Including saudi arabia, kuwait, jordan, qatar, bahrain
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  • And the united arab emirates in an attempt to strike u.s.
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  • Bases there and spark a regional war.
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  • It's a major turning point for the middle east and the world,
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  • And over the next hour,
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  • We will bring you breaking insights
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  • From some of the world's top experts,
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  • And all from a biblical perspective.
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  • We start in jerusalem with our tbn israel
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  • Correspondent, jair pinto, host of boots on the ground.
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  • She's right here on tbn every thursday night at 8:30 p.m.
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  • Eastern time here.
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  • Thanks for joining us in the middle of the night
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  • In israel.
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  • First of all, tell us how this all went down.
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  • This was in broad daylight
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  • In iran and in israel when the operation started.
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  • What does your day look like?
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  • I imagine you've been in and out
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  • Of bomb shelters with your family. yes.
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  • Like everything started a little bit before 8:08 a.m.
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  • In the morning here.
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  • It's a saturday morning, so no school kids with us.
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  • We wake up to the sounds of alarms
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  • On our cell phones that are notifying us,
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  • Like waking us up, saying that the whole country of israel
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  • Is moving from normal routine, that schools are in session.
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  • You can leave, you can do.
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  • You can walk
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  • Whatever you usually do into a state of heightened alert
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  • Because israel is launching a preemptive war
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  • Against the iranian republic, and this is against the
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  • Missile launching capabilities,
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  • Against the command and control infrastructure of the regime.
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  • And basically, the first wave of strike
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  • Was the biggest in israel's aerial history.
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  • That included 200 airplanes
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  • That carried out the attacks against 500 targets
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  • In a few minutes, taking down all the ability
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  • Of the islamic republic of iran to conduct any kind of strong
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  • And severe retaliatory attack against israel,
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  • Against the citizens of israel,
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  • Against the military
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  • Infrastructure of the idf, but
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  • Also against the united states assets in this region.
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  • So israel carried out, together with the united states
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  • Of america, a very, very coordinated
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  • Plan of deception to make sure that the attack
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  • Took place in the morning hours is something that we are almost
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  • Never seen.
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  • Usually these attacks are happening in
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  • The middle of the night or early morning before people wake up.
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  • This time it was carried out in broad daylight, making sure
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  • That there was concentration of the leadership of the irgc
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  • In central areas, including, i thought, ally germany.
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  • That was targeted.
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  • We had in broad daylight these strikes taking place
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  • At the very outset.
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  • The year ended up with the deaths of at least
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  • 40 top iranian officials and most of all, ayatollah khamenei.
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  • Most importantly, the supreme leader is now confirmed dead.
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  • Tell us about the importance of that,
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  • The ramifications of the demise of iran's supreme leader.
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  • Yeah.
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  • So this this evil man and he is evil.
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  • He took hostage
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  • The entire nation of iran, and that's 92 people,
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  • Only 10% of the population of the iranians
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  • In iran actually support this evil men.
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  • So this is a dictator, a dictator that
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  • Carried out and planned to develop nuclear weapons,
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  • Threatened to annihilate the united states of america
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  • And israel, called the us the big satan.
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  • And these are the small satan
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  • Developed ballistic missile capabilities
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  • And tried to develop intercontinental ballistic
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  • Missile capabilities that can reach
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  • The united states of america.
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  • He funded all the terrorist organizations
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  • In this region, including hezbollah, hamas,
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  • The houthis in yemen and other iranian militias in iraq.
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  • This is a major destabilizing factor in the whole world.
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  • And the fact that he's no longer with us
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  • Can mean that the iranian people, first
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  • And foremost, have a future of something better,
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  • Something to dream for, to look for cooperation
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  • With the outside world
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  • And not just sustain in this tyrannical regime
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  • That all it does is funding terrorism, destruction
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  • And death.
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  • Talking about the whole point of this wall, this, as you said,
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  • Is a spiritual war, eric.
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  • And we are seeing this is a battle between good and evil.
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  • So this is all a sign that god is acting
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  • And we should keep praying.
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  • Joining us now is israel's top diplomat in the united states.
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  • Israel's ambassador to the united states.
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  • Yukio leiter is back with us. ambassador.
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  • Always great to see you from an israeli perspective.
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  • What have you seen thus far?
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  • Are you satisfied?
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  • Is israel satisfied
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  • With the results on the ground in this offensive
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  • Against the world's number one state sponsor of terrorism,
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  • The iranian regime?
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  • Well, first of all, good evening.
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  • It's always good to be with you.
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  • And particularly now, during this time
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  • When something unprecedented is happening.
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  • We've always been dear friends,
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  • Partners.
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  • We're a junior partner, the united states,
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  • A senior partner.
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  • But we've never been at this level of collaboration.
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  • And the two most powerful air forces in the world
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  • Are now collaborating and taking out what is nothing
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  • Short of pure evil.
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  • An evil regime that has spread mayhem,
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  • Murder, death and destruction around the world.
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  • And, it's not just the friendship,
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  • The personal friendship that goes back to mid-eighties
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  • Between our prime minister and the president.
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  • But it's the friendship between our two nations.
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  • And it's the biblical roots of our two nations
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  • That, unite israel and united states
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  • Together to protect judeo-christian civilization.
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  • That's the key here.
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  • The iranian movements,
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  • These fanatical ayatollahs set out to destroy
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  • The abraham accords that brought moderate islam
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  • Together with israel in a accommodation
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  • Of western civilization, of judeo christian civilization.
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  • They set out to destroy it, and they set out to destroy it
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  • By building a
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  • Ballistic missile arsenal and by pursuing nuclear weapons.
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  • Look what's happening right now in our neighborhood.
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  • Eric, it's just it's unbelievable.
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  • If anybody needed proof
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  • Of how correct we were in our assessment
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  • That iran wouldn't hesitate to use their missiles and,
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  • Look, look,
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  • Look at saudi arabia hitting the us embassy in riyadh,
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  • Hitting, shopping malls in dubai, the the airport,
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  • Qatar, kuwait, jordan and europe.
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  • I mean, prime minister netanyahu warned for years
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  • That they would not hesitate to attack europe.
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  • And sure enough,
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  • They hit cyprus with a ballistic missile
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  • And they could reach germany as well.
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  • So we have come together to terminate this,
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  • Nuclear weapons program, this ballistic missile program,
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  • And the support for proxies throughout the middle east
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  • That have shown such,
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  • Destruction, such despair, such terrorism.
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  • We're working together. we're flying together.
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  • And the results
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  • Since we began, friday night are quite, quite good.
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  • They're almost, almost miraculous.
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  • I would say
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  • In the first 40 minutes, we took out 40 of the main leaders.
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  • And that's causing a breakdown in the chain of command.
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  • So we're seeing, the the skies over
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  • Iran being, under our control.
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  • We're flying. flying freely to destroy,
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  • Missile
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  • Bases, production sites, command centers, and the.
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  • We will pursue and persevere until we have,
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  • Completed the job.
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  • Yeah. ambassador. great breakdown.
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  • And, man, as you're talking, folks, imagine this regime,
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  • This blood soaked regime that the ambassador just described
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  • With nuclear weapons, the world's deadliest weapons.
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  • No, thanks.
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  • And what we see right now
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  • Is israel,
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  • The first line of defense for western civilization,
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  • For judeo-christian civilization,
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  • Teaming with the united states,
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  • Which is really now the last line of defense for the west.
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  • Ambassador, you're in the meetings.
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  • You're in all the top level meetings
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  • With the president and the prime minister.
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  • Can you talk a bit more about their historic partnership?
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  • Look, people to compare them
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  • To reagan and thatcher bringing down the soviet empire.
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  • Now they're working together
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  • To bring down the iranian terror empire.
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  • Tell us more about their partnership
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  • And why it's so important and historic.
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  • Well, look, it's historic because,
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  • You know, just like, churchill and roosevelt came together
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  • To protect the world, save the world from nazi ism.
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  • Prime minister netanyahu and and president
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  • Trump were coming together to save the world
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  • From an islamism that, has global ambitions
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  • And does not hesitate to use the worst
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  • Kind of terror and violence to pursue that goal.
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  • You know, those missiles that are falling on, cities
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  • In the middle east right now?
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  • Imagine that they would have been outfitted
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  • With nuclear warheads.
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  • It's just unimaginable.
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  • And they were on the road to becoming,
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  • A nuclear power
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  • With an impenetrable fortress of these nuclear missiles.
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  • Underground would even be tools.
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  • Would not be able to penetrate,
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  • You know, a normal people that wasn't,
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  • You know, crazy and a lunatic apocalyptic would have taken
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  • From the rising light and midnight hammer operations.
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  • The lesson that they better stop.
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  • They better cease and desist.
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  • And the president warned them, you better stop now.
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  • But they persisted.
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  • And not only they persist, they began to plan
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  • For an underground facility that would be so deep
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  • That the midnight hammer wouldn't be able to penetrate.
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  • If we would have waited much longer.
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  • You know, people ask about why now?
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  • I don't, frankly,
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  • I don't quite understand the question
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  • Because you wait until the missiles are in the air.
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  • I mean, what do you mean, right now?
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  • As soon as you have the opportunity
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  • To take down this kind of evil, you've got to do it.
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  • And they weren't preparing this underground,
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  • Bunker, like
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  • Manufacturing and
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  • And holding center that would have
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  • Been impenetrable even to the beatles.
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  • This had to be stopped before we reached that level.
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  • No doubt, ambassador.
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  • Thank god it was stopped.
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  • And more to come in the days to come.
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  • Hey, we know you are a very busy man right now, ambassador.
  • 00:12:11.686 --> 00:12:14.589
  • You. collider.
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  • Thank you so much for joining us. we will see you again soon.
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  • God bless.
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  • The u.s.
  • 00:12:19.227 --> 00:12:20.295
  • And israel are in the middle of an unprecedented
  • 00:12:20.295 --> 00:12:22.564
  • Joint operation to neutralize iran's regime.
  • 00:12:22.564 --> 00:12:25.900
  • And john spencer knows both of these militaries
  • 00:12:25.900 --> 00:12:29.337
  • And the iranian threat very well.
  • 00:12:29.337 --> 00:12:32.106
  • He's executive director of the urban warfare institute
  • 00:12:32.106 --> 00:12:35.143
  • And is known as the world's foremost expert on
  • 00:12:35.143 --> 00:12:38.246
  • Urban warfare.
  • 00:12:38.246 --> 00:12:39.180
  • John, always great to see you.
  • 00:12:39.180 --> 00:12:41.449
  • Hey, the iranian regime now, the islamic revolutionary guard
  • 00:12:41.449 --> 00:12:44.285
  • In particular, are saying they are going to shut down
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  • The strategic strait of hormuz.
  • 00:12:47.188 --> 00:12:49.490
  • But, john, it seems like it will be very difficult
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  • For them to do that since the iranian navy
  • 00:12:51.359 --> 00:12:53.895
  • Has pretty much been destroyed.
  • 00:12:53.895 --> 00:12:55.563
  • Can you break that down?
  • 00:12:55.563 --> 00:12:56.998
  • That situation right now
  • 00:12:56.998 --> 00:12:58.132
  • In the seas, in particular the strait of hormuz?
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  • Sure.
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  • The centcom or the department of war,
  • 00:13:03.137 --> 00:13:06.441
  • Sent a message out that all 11,
  • 00:13:06.441 --> 00:13:08.610
  • Meaning all of the iranian navy ships are now sitting at
  • 00:13:08.610 --> 00:13:11.980
  • The bottom of the gulf of oman.
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  • So i don't know what they would plan
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  • To do that with their still threat.
  • 00:13:15.350 --> 00:13:17.218
  • I mean, they still have
  • 00:13:17.218 --> 00:13:18.286
  • Short sea strike capabilities and other assets.
  • 00:13:18.286 --> 00:13:22.357
  • I if that's one of their goals, you i tell people to,
  • 00:13:22.357 --> 00:13:25.627
  • You know, set realistic goals.
  • 00:13:25.627 --> 00:13:27.061
  • I don't think that's going to be a possibility for them.
  • 00:13:27.061 --> 00:13:29.297
  • And that will continue to be one of the objectives
  • 00:13:29.297 --> 00:13:32.600
  • Of operation epic fury. but,
  • 00:13:32.600 --> 00:13:35.536
  • They're literally don't have any ships at this moment.
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  • Yeah.
  • 00:13:38.773 --> 00:13:39.607
  • John, you study warfare obviously.
  • 00:13:39.607 --> 00:13:41.042
  • Obviously for a living.
  • 00:13:41.042 --> 00:13:42.810
  • What has been your impression so far of operation epic fury?
  • 00:13:42.810 --> 00:13:45.914
  • Out of the gates here. the u.s.
  • 00:13:45.914 --> 00:13:47.181
  • And israel, incredible operation.
  • 00:13:47.181 --> 00:13:49.017
  • Two of the world's most powerful and advanced militaries
  • 00:13:49.017 --> 00:13:51.719
  • Working side by side.
  • 00:13:51.719 --> 00:13:53.154
  • And it seems thus far they're getting incredible results.
  • 00:13:53.154 --> 00:13:55.556
  • How have you seen it?
  • 00:13:55.556 --> 00:13:57.025
  • Absolutely.
  • 00:13:57.358 --> 00:13:58.226
  • I mean, historic, history changing.
  • 00:13:58.226 --> 00:14:00.495
  • It's specifically to the study of war.
  • 00:14:00.495 --> 00:14:03.331
  • The opening moments of what was
  • 00:14:03.331 --> 00:14:04.766
  • Achieved in this synchronization of israeli intelligence, u.s.
  • 00:14:04.766 --> 00:14:08.836
  • Intelligence, israeli planes flying as u.s.
  • 00:14:08.836 --> 00:14:12.540
  • Tomahawk missiles and others are landing,
  • 00:14:12.540 --> 00:14:14.909
  • All precisely to eliminate
  • 00:14:14.909 --> 00:14:16.811
  • The entire hierarchy of the leadership.
  • 00:14:16.811 --> 00:14:19.013
  • Again, although israel, during a 12 day
  • 00:14:19.013 --> 00:14:21.749
  • War, eliminated over 30 senior leaders,
  • 00:14:21.749 --> 00:14:24.485
  • The head of the military, they actually,
  • 00:14:24.485 --> 00:14:26.421
  • To be able to hit the supreme leader,
  • 00:14:26.421 --> 00:14:27.989
  • One of the few roadblocks to president trump's
  • 00:14:27.989 --> 00:14:31.125
  • And israel's ability to bring peace to the middle east.
  • 00:14:31.125 --> 00:14:34.862
  • What we've seen over the last two years,
  • 00:14:34.862 --> 00:14:36.731
  • But also the president's
  • 00:14:36.731 --> 00:14:38.099
  • Bold vision for the middle east with the gulf states
  • 00:14:38.099 --> 00:14:41.536
  • That iran is attacking all of them.
  • 00:14:41.536 --> 00:14:44.138
  • But from a military perspective, it's can't be overstated
  • 00:14:44.138 --> 00:14:48.343
  • How difficult this was. it took us.
  • 00:14:48.343 --> 00:14:50.545
  • You know, i was a part of the iraq invasion.
  • 00:14:50.545 --> 00:14:52.513
  • It took us nine months to get saddam.
  • 00:14:52.513 --> 00:14:54.582
  • It took us weeks, to get his sons,
  • 00:14:54.582 --> 00:14:57.218
  • The deck of cards to be able to do this, this paralysis
  • 00:14:57.218 --> 00:15:00.788
  • Of the regime, which has been achieved
  • 00:15:00.788 --> 00:15:03.992
  • And the accuracy, precision and overwhelming combat power.
  • 00:15:03.992 --> 00:15:08.463
  • Of course, it was months in planning with me.
  • 00:15:08.463 --> 00:15:10.999
  • The united states has allies, and then it has israel.
  • 00:15:10.999 --> 00:15:13.901
  • What israel is able to do, and in partnership
  • 00:15:13.901 --> 00:15:17.105
  • With the united states,
  • 00:15:17.105 --> 00:15:18.373
  • It brings a power that the the world hasn't seen before.
  • 00:15:18.373 --> 00:15:22.076
  • And that's what we're seeing on the ground.
  • 00:15:22.076 --> 00:15:24.045
  • And hopefully it goes quickly.
  • 00:15:24.045 --> 00:15:25.913
  • Although we we pray for the friends
  • 00:15:25.913 --> 00:15:27.648
  • And families of those are the, u.s.
  • 00:15:27.648 --> 00:15:29.817
  • Servicemen that have been killed.
  • 00:15:29.817 --> 00:15:31.185
  • The israeli civilians have been killed,
  • 00:15:31.185 --> 00:15:33.888
  • Based on iranian counterattack.
  • 00:15:33.888 --> 00:15:36.657
  • This is a swift,
  • 00:15:37.058 --> 00:15:38.626
  • Precise, constrained operation
  • 00:15:38.626 --> 00:15:42.330
  • That is already ahead of schedule.
  • 00:15:42.330 --> 00:15:44.732
  • Doctor. hello, charlotte.
  • 00:15:44.732 --> 00:15:46.467
  • He is the founder
  • 00:15:46.467 --> 00:15:47.702
  • Of iran alive ministries, and he joins us now.
  • 00:15:47.702 --> 00:15:51.439
  • Doctor, sharia, always great to see you.
  • 00:15:51.439 --> 00:15:54.008
  • I mean, what a moment
  • 00:15:54.008 --> 00:15:55.176
  • You have been for years, decades and decades.
  • 00:15:55.176 --> 00:15:58.012
  • Iran is your home country.
  • 00:15:58.012 --> 00:15:59.414
  • You were born in iran.
  • 00:15:59.414 --> 00:16:01.182
  • You've been number one advocating for freedom
  • 00:16:01.182 --> 00:16:03.885
  • For the iranian people.
  • 00:16:03.885 --> 00:16:05.119
  • And number two, you've been spreading the gospel in iran.
  • 00:16:05.119 --> 00:16:08.790
  • And now we have a situation where it's the world's
  • 00:16:08.790 --> 00:16:11.492
  • Fastest growing church, largely underground.
  • 00:16:11.492 --> 00:16:14.595
  • Doctor, sharia, do you believe
  • 00:16:14.595 --> 00:16:15.963
  • This is the moment for the iranian people?
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  • To to not only take a hold of the country,
  • 00:16:19.000 --> 00:16:21.602
  • But to spread the gospel throughout the middle east?
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  • I think it's possible.
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  • Yes. thank you.
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  • Eric.
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  • This is a big step towards the fulfillment of jeremiah 4938.
  • 00:16:29.177 --> 00:16:33.948
  • And, we know that the end result, we know that
  • 00:16:33.948 --> 00:16:37.018
  • Iran will be a christian nation and iranians have,
  • 00:16:37.018 --> 00:16:41.089
  • Rejected islam by millions.
  • 00:16:41.689 --> 00:16:44.092
  • And now, what's happened in the january
  • 00:16:44.092 --> 00:16:46.494
  • Where the killing of 40,000 people and we started
  • 00:16:46.494 --> 00:16:49.897
  • Seeing a new crop of people to be harvested.
  • 00:16:49.897 --> 00:16:53.901
  • We saw a surge in the number of salvations.
  • 00:16:53.901 --> 00:16:56.537
  • And we believe it's going to continue to do that.
  • 00:16:56.537 --> 00:16:59.841
  • Just to give you an example,
  • 00:16:59.841 --> 00:17:01.976
  • Another layer of people who used to believe in islam
  • 00:17:01.976 --> 00:17:05.880
  • Just a few months ago after this massacre.
  • 00:17:05.880 --> 00:17:08.983
  • They have said, we don't believe in islam anymore.
  • 00:17:08.983 --> 00:17:11.652
  • What else is out there?
  • 00:17:11.652 --> 00:17:12.820
  • That's why we see a surge in the number of salvation.
  • 00:17:12.820 --> 00:17:15.623
  • As an example,
  • 00:17:15.623 --> 00:17:16.524
  • One of our leaders in iran was saying,
  • 00:17:16.524 --> 00:17:18.192
  • Hey, i have my family is very devout muslim
  • 00:17:18.192 --> 00:17:21.395
  • And they never wanted to hear me.
  • 00:17:21.395 --> 00:17:24.499
  • Actually my uncle six month ago,
  • 00:17:25.133 --> 00:17:27.602
  • He told me, i'm going to turn you in to the government
  • 00:17:27.602 --> 00:17:30.071
  • Because you have become a christian.
  • 00:17:30.071 --> 00:17:31.572
  • You have become become the enemy of allah.
  • 00:17:31.572 --> 00:17:34.709
  • And he said, can you believe it?
  • 00:17:34.709 --> 00:17:36.511
  • Last night my uncle calls me and tells me, tell me about jesus.
  • 00:17:36.511 --> 00:17:41.782
  • So there is a spiritual shift.
  • 00:17:41.782 --> 00:17:43.417
  • We we are watching history in the making.
  • 00:17:43.417 --> 00:17:45.620
  • Political history? yes.
  • 00:17:45.620 --> 00:17:47.455
  • Spiritual history, yes.
  • 00:17:47.455 --> 00:17:48.923
  • But also biblical history is in the making.
  • 00:17:48.923 --> 00:17:51.459
  • Look at jeremiah 49, verses 34 and on
  • 00:17:51.459 --> 00:17:54.795
  • Exactly what has been happening even the last two days.
  • 00:17:54.795 --> 00:17:58.799
  • It's being fulfilled.
  • 00:17:58.799 --> 00:18:00.268
  • So jeremiah 4938 says, i will remove the lord, says,
  • 00:18:00.268 --> 00:18:03.871
  • I will remove the head, the king and the heads.
  • 00:18:03.871 --> 00:18:07.141
  • Isn't that what has been happening?
  • 00:18:07.141 --> 00:18:09.443
  • How many is gone?
  • 00:18:09.877 --> 00:18:10.912
  • But many of his heads are gone.
  • 00:18:10.912 --> 00:18:14.749
  • Yeah. great observation.
  • 00:18:15.283 --> 00:18:16.984
  • Doctor. sharia. look at jeremiah 49.
  • 00:18:16.984 --> 00:18:19.887
  • We call it iran is called persia, but also elam.
  • 00:18:19.887 --> 00:18:22.223
  • Elam was part of ancient persia.
  • 00:18:22.223 --> 00:18:23.958
  • It is specifically referenced in jeremiah 49.
  • 00:18:23.958 --> 00:18:26.727
  • And as you just said, many believe that prophecy
  • 00:18:26.727 --> 00:18:29.597
  • Predicting the downfall that wicked regime is happening
  • 00:18:29.597 --> 00:18:32.800
  • Right now.
  • 00:18:32.800 --> 00:18:33.968
  • What are you hearing from on the streets, by the way?
  • 00:18:33.968 --> 00:18:35.436
  • You've got great contacts on the ground in iran,
  • 00:18:35.436 --> 00:18:37.605
  • Of course, and we've seen video over the past 48 hours
  • 00:18:37.605 --> 00:18:40.541
  • Of iranians dancing in the streets
  • 00:18:40.541 --> 00:18:42.410
  • Celebrating khamenei's demise and the u.s.
  • 00:18:42.410 --> 00:18:45.213
  • And israel coming to their aid.
  • 00:18:45.213 --> 00:18:47.148
  • What are you hearing from on the ground, this or optimism?
  • 00:18:47.148 --> 00:18:49.884
  • Is there fear?
  • 00:18:49.884 --> 00:18:51.385
  • What's the state of play on the ground in iran right
  • 00:18:51.385 --> 00:18:53.221
  • Now among the iranian people?
  • 00:18:53.221 --> 00:18:56.190
  • A lot of rejoicing after
  • 00:18:56.724 --> 00:18:58.626
  • So many people were killed and the people of iran hopeless.
  • 00:18:58.626 --> 00:19:02.263
  • And, and mourning.
  • 00:19:02.697 --> 00:19:04.932
  • That has been the word used for the last two months.
  • 00:19:04.932 --> 00:19:07.902
  • But the last two days they are rejoicing.
  • 00:19:07.902 --> 00:19:11.005
  • They are dancing.
  • 00:19:11.005 --> 00:19:12.139
  • And i saw a clip north in northern london.
  • 00:19:12.139 --> 00:19:15.843
  • I hope you can show that.
  • 00:19:15.843 --> 00:19:17.878
  • North london, there are two neighborhoods,
  • 00:19:17.878 --> 00:19:20.047
  • One occupied by iranians, one occupied by the jews.
  • 00:19:20.047 --> 00:19:24.185
  • And last night both of them came to the main square.
  • 00:19:24.185 --> 00:19:27.989
  • And you can watch that the jews and the iranians are rejoicing,
  • 00:19:27.989 --> 00:19:32.860
  • Singing, dancing with israeli flag and iranian new flag.
  • 00:19:32.860 --> 00:19:37.565
  • So this is what's happening, and i can tell you.
  • 00:19:37.565 --> 00:19:40.534
  • Yeah.
  • 00:19:40.534 --> 00:19:41.102
  • Iran, israel and the us
  • 00:19:41.102 --> 00:19:43.971
  • Will be close friends very soon.
  • 00:19:43.971 --> 00:19:46.874
  • Very soon. just wait.
  • 00:19:46.874 --> 00:19:49.210
  • It's our good friend mark dube, which ceo of the foundation
  • 00:19:49.210 --> 00:19:52.647
  • For defense of democracies right here in washington, dc.
  • 00:19:52.647 --> 00:19:55.883
  • Mark.
  • 00:19:56.117 --> 00:19:57.084
  • Well, we take this back to october 7th, 2023
  • 00:19:57.084 --> 00:20:01.322
  • To the iranian regime.
  • 00:20:01.322 --> 00:20:02.556
  • I don't think they did envision what would come out of october
  • 00:20:02.556 --> 00:20:05.559
  • 7th, one of the worst days in israel's history, of course,
  • 00:20:05.559 --> 00:20:08.729
  • But it led eventually to the entire collapse.
  • 00:20:08.729 --> 00:20:11.699
  • Or at least we're on the brink of the collapse
  • 00:20:11.699 --> 00:20:13.501
  • Of the entire iranian terror empire.
  • 00:20:13.501 --> 00:20:16.103
  • Pretty amazing to see it on fold
  • 00:20:16.103 --> 00:20:17.471
  • Over the past two and a half years.
  • 00:20:17.471 --> 00:20:19.774
  • Eric, you're right, i mean it.
  • 00:20:20.374 --> 00:20:21.409
  • It's akin to the japanese attack on pearl harbor,
  • 00:20:21.409 --> 00:20:25.413
  • Which brought the united states into the war
  • 00:20:25.413 --> 00:20:27.848
  • And led to the defeat of
  • 00:20:27.848 --> 00:20:29.517
  • Not only the japanese empire, but but by the nazis.
  • 00:20:29.517 --> 00:20:32.520
  • And i think when i have seen where
  • 00:20:32.520 --> 00:20:34.522
  • The leader of hamas decided to launch that vicious attack
  • 00:20:34.522 --> 00:20:37.758
  • With iran's help on israel,
  • 00:20:37.758 --> 00:20:41.128
  • He never imagined that it would lead to literally the downfall
  • 00:20:41.128 --> 00:20:44.432
  • Of the entire axis of misery.
  • 00:20:44.432 --> 00:20:46.600
  • Or they call it the axis of resistance that khomeini
  • 00:20:46.600 --> 00:20:50.404
  • And kassam soleimani had built over many years.
  • 00:20:50.404 --> 00:20:54.108
  • Yeah, just amazing to watch.
  • 00:20:54.709 --> 00:20:56.243
  • And mark, of course, the main goals president trump
  • 00:20:56.243 --> 00:20:58.245
  • Laid them out of course, neutralize the nuclear threat,
  • 00:20:58.245 --> 00:21:01.382
  • The ballistic missile threat, the support for terror proxies.
  • 00:21:01.382 --> 00:21:04.385
  • But the iranian people, mark you in personally
  • 00:21:04.385 --> 00:21:07.455
  • And in particular, have advocated the entire team
  • 00:21:07.455 --> 00:21:09.557
  • To feed, advocated for the iranian people for years.
  • 00:21:09.557 --> 00:21:14.061
  • What do you think the odds are now?
  • 00:21:14.061 --> 00:21:15.529
  • President trump said it.
  • 00:21:15.529 --> 00:21:16.831
  • Pete hegseth, secretary rubio,
  • 00:21:16.831 --> 00:21:18.299
  • They all said it once again.
  • 00:21:18.299 --> 00:21:19.600
  • They reiterated
  • 00:21:19.600 --> 00:21:20.601
  • That now is the time for the iranian people
  • 00:21:20.601 --> 00:21:22.770
  • To take their freedom back and get out in the streets.
  • 00:21:22.770 --> 00:21:26.240
  • Do you see that as being likely as the days
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  • Go on and this regime weakens?
  • 00:21:28.275 --> 00:21:31.278
  • Yeah, eric, as you say, for, you know, 22 years
  • 00:21:32.179 --> 00:21:34.382
  • We are working on the iran issue.
  • 00:21:34.382 --> 00:21:36.117
  • Iran sanctioned us in 2019 as an organization, myself
  • 00:21:36.117 --> 00:21:39.854
  • And also six of my colleagues been threatening us.
  • 00:21:39.854 --> 00:21:43.224
  • We also have a number of amazing iranian american colleagues
  • 00:21:43.224 --> 00:21:46.560
  • Who, who have been working on this issue and,
  • 00:21:46.560 --> 00:21:49.463
  • And threatened by the regime.
  • 00:21:49.463 --> 00:21:50.931
  • So we have for many years
  • 00:21:50.931 --> 00:21:52.800
  • Been calling for the downfall of this regime.
  • 00:21:52.800 --> 00:21:55.302
  • And i think the most important way to do
  • 00:21:55.302 --> 00:21:56.871
  • That is to provide maximum support for the iranian people
  • 00:21:56.871 --> 00:22:00.141
  • At the same time
  • 00:22:00.141 --> 00:22:01.342
  • That we're putting maximum pressure on the iranian regime.
  • 00:22:01.342 --> 00:22:04.912
  • President trump has said very clearly
  • 00:22:04.912 --> 00:22:07.148
  • The goal is to destroy their most deadly capabilities
  • 00:22:07.148 --> 00:22:10.184
  • And then open up the space for iranians, a once
  • 00:22:10.184 --> 00:22:13.154
  • In a lifetime opportunity to take back their country.
  • 00:22:13.154 --> 00:22:16.357
  • President trump's
  • 00:22:16.791 --> 00:22:17.691
  • Action in iran is weakening that axis.
  • 00:22:17.691 --> 00:22:20.628
  • We're talking china, russia, iran, north korea.
  • 00:22:20.628 --> 00:22:23.330
  • That's a good thing.
  • 00:22:23.330 --> 00:22:24.632
  • But also, by extension, we're seeing
  • 00:22:24.632 --> 00:22:26.400
  • A new alliance form, perhaps in the middle east.
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  • Israel and the u.s., of course,
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  • But joined in a more forceful way by arab
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  • Muslim nations like saudi arabia, like the united arab
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  • Emirates, like bahrain, that are under fire right now.
  • 00:22:39.480 --> 00:22:44.185
  • Courtesy of iran.
  • 00:22:44.185 --> 00:22:45.719
  • The iranian regime has fired hundreds
  • 00:22:45.719 --> 00:22:48.055
  • Of missiles, rockets and drones at these arab muslim nations.
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  • Joining us now to break that down
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  • And the broader implications is our good friend.
  • 00:22:54.028 --> 00:22:56.230
  • You know him very well, folks,
  • 00:22:56.230 --> 00:22:57.465
  • Host of the rosenberg report every thursday night right here
  • 00:22:57.465 --> 00:23:00.668
  • On tbn, editor in chief of all israel news.
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  • Joel, you have spent so much time
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  • Not only in israel, of course, where you're based,
  • 00:23:05.539 --> 00:23:07.441
  • But in the arab and muslim world meeting with the leaders
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  • Of these nations
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  • Saudi arabia, the uae, bahrain, the list goes on.
  • 00:23:11.512 --> 00:23:15.749
  • What are the ramifications here?
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  • Short term but long term, now that they are under siege,
  • 00:23:18.419 --> 00:23:23.157
  • The iranian regime again has fired
  • 00:23:23.157 --> 00:23:24.625
  • Hundreds of missiles and drones at arab muslim
  • 00:23:24.625 --> 00:23:27.995
  • Nations surrounding iran in the past 48 hours.
  • 00:23:27.995 --> 00:23:30.064
  • Major regional shift, you think may be in the offing here.
  • 00:23:30.064 --> 00:23:33.934
  • These are tectonic shifts in the region.
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  • Eric. absolutely.
  • 00:23:36.637 --> 00:23:38.439
  • I think the iranian regime has made several
  • 00:23:38.439 --> 00:23:41.475
  • Major strategic errors.
  • 00:23:41.475 --> 00:23:43.043
  • First of all, of course, that they didn't
  • 00:23:43.043 --> 00:23:44.645
  • Listen to president trump.
  • 00:23:44.645 --> 00:23:45.813
  • They didn't believe that president trump
  • 00:23:45.813 --> 00:23:47.348
  • Was going to keep his word and destroy their offensive
  • 00:23:47.348 --> 00:23:51.852
  • Military capabilities and take them down.
  • 00:23:51.852 --> 00:23:55.055
  • If they didn't make a serious, strong, verifiable deal.
  • 00:23:55.055 --> 00:23:58.659
  • So that was catastrophic.
  • 00:23:58.659 --> 00:24:00.895
  • And and for ali nyi, he lost his life over it.
  • 00:24:00.895 --> 00:24:04.598
  • The top 40, most powerful,
  • 00:24:04.598 --> 00:24:07.368
  • Most wicked regime leaders are all dead.
  • 00:24:07.368 --> 00:24:10.571
  • And there's more to come.
  • 00:24:10.571 --> 00:24:11.539
  • So that's the first mistake they make.
  • 00:24:11.539 --> 00:24:12.907
  • The second mistake
  • 00:24:12.907 --> 00:24:14.074
  • They made was by not just retaliating against israel.
  • 00:24:14.074 --> 00:24:17.878
  • If they had just retaliated against israel,
  • 00:24:17.878 --> 00:24:20.147
  • Then they would be sending the message throughout the region
  • 00:24:20.147 --> 00:24:23.617
  • That really this is an iran israel fight.
  • 00:24:23.617 --> 00:24:26.954
  • But what they've done.
  • 00:24:26.954 --> 00:24:28.322
  • The iranian regime has attacked 16 nations
  • 00:24:28.322 --> 00:24:32.393
  • Throughout the entire middle east.
  • 00:24:32.393 --> 00:24:33.794
  • They've attacked almost every neighbor
  • 00:24:33.794 --> 00:24:35.663
  • That they have mostly moderate sunni, arab state
  • 00:24:35.663 --> 00:24:38.999
  • Who had signaled in recent weeks
  • 00:24:38.999 --> 00:24:41.135
  • That they were going to be neutral.
  • 00:24:41.135 --> 00:24:42.570
  • Right. and the u.s.
  • 00:24:42.570 --> 00:24:43.504
  • Couldn't fly over their territory
  • 00:24:43.504 --> 00:24:45.873
  • And they weren't going to be involved.
  • 00:24:45.873 --> 00:24:47.741
  • But the united arab emirates alone has taken more than 700
  • 00:24:47.741 --> 00:24:51.745
  • Missile and drone attacks just in the last 48 hours.
  • 00:24:51.745 --> 00:24:56.383
  • And and all of them are now unified with president trump
  • 00:24:56.383 --> 00:25:00.588
  • And with israel against the iranian regime.
  • 00:25:00.588 --> 00:25:02.990
  • This is a big deal.
  • 00:25:02.990 --> 00:25:04.458
  • And i think the sunni arabs should actually militarily
  • 00:25:04.458 --> 00:25:07.528
  • Get involved in destroying the iranian regime with us.
  • 00:25:07.528 --> 00:25:11.999
  • Wow. perhaps we see
  • 00:25:12.466 --> 00:25:14.134
  • Even an arab version of nato shaping up here, joel.
  • 00:25:14.134 --> 00:25:17.271
  • And, you know, the uae under fire.
  • 00:25:17.271 --> 00:25:19.039
  • You and i were there together on the ground in abu dhabi
  • 00:25:19.039 --> 00:25:21.308
  • Just a few years ago, and we loved it there.
  • 00:25:21.308 --> 00:25:23.811
  • And we're so impressed by everyone in the uae,
  • 00:25:23.811 --> 00:25:25.879
  • Their great relationship with israel.
  • 00:25:25.879 --> 00:25:27.948
  • So let's see if they can kind of galvanize together
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  • With their fellow sunni muslim nations
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  • In the region that may be coming in the days to come.
  • 00:25:32.686 --> 00:25:34.588
  • As you said,
  • 00:25:34.588 --> 00:25:35.456
  • You know, we talk about the biblical
  • 00:25:35.456 --> 00:25:36.657
  • Historic links between persia, which is modern day iran, joel,
  • 00:25:36.657 --> 00:25:40.728
  • And israel.
  • 00:25:40.728 --> 00:25:41.595
  • There in the bible
  • 00:25:41.595 --> 00:25:42.696
  • Think of king cyrus, the persian king who released
  • 00:25:42.696 --> 00:25:46.100
  • The jewish people
  • 00:25:46.100 --> 00:25:47.167
  • From captivity, allowed them to return to jerusalem
  • 00:25:47.167 --> 00:25:50.070
  • And rebuild the temple.
  • 00:25:50.070 --> 00:25:51.472
  • Now we kind of have the script being flipped a bit
  • 00:25:51.472 --> 00:25:54.575
  • In that now the people of israel are, in a sense,
  • 00:25:54.575 --> 00:25:57.578
  • Helping to free the people of iran from captivity.
  • 00:25:57.578 --> 00:26:01.081
  • Can you talk about the potential job for the iranian people
  • 00:26:01.081 --> 00:26:04.852
  • And the iranian church in particular?
  • 00:26:04.852 --> 00:26:06.987
  • Look, people may not realize, yes, it's
  • 00:26:06.987 --> 00:26:08.722
  • The world's number one state sponsor of terrorism.
  • 00:26:08.722 --> 00:26:10.924
  • But iran is also home to the world's fastest growing church.
  • 00:26:10.924 --> 00:26:14.728
  • Mostly underground, of course, because of persecution.
  • 00:26:14.728 --> 00:26:17.831
  • But it's there and it's growing,
  • 00:26:17.831 --> 00:26:19.800
  • And there seems to be unlimited potential for iran
  • 00:26:19.800 --> 00:26:23.137
  • If it can shake the yoke of this wicked regime.
  • 00:26:23.137 --> 00:26:26.607
  • Absolutely.
  • 00:26:26.940 --> 00:26:27.908
  • We are seeing a spiritual awakening because,
  • 00:26:27.908 --> 00:26:30.978
  • The wicked, tyrants and terrorists of tehran
  • 00:26:30.978 --> 00:26:34.682
  • Have created an environment where iranians have realized
  • 00:26:34.682 --> 00:26:38.419
  • That if if the leaders of iran are the
  • 00:26:38.419 --> 00:26:41.388
  • Are the most, special and perfect,
  • 00:26:41.388 --> 00:26:45.159
  • Muslim leaders on the world, in the world,
  • 00:26:45.159 --> 00:26:47.027
  • Then they don't want to be muslims anymore.
  • 00:26:47.027 --> 00:26:49.263
  • They're abandoning islam.
  • 00:26:49.263 --> 00:26:50.731
  • Now some are going to asia, some some to agnosticism,
  • 00:26:50.731 --> 00:26:53.767
  • But millions are turning to faith in jesus christ.
  • 00:26:53.767 --> 00:26:56.570
  • It is the single greatest spiritual awakening
  • 00:26:56.570 --> 00:26:59.640
  • Going on in the muslim world, certainly in the middle east.
  • 00:26:59.640 --> 00:27:02.409
  • So that's very encouraging.
  • 00:27:02.409 --> 00:27:04.011
  • I would also say that
  • 00:27:04.011 --> 00:27:05.012
  • On the rosenberg report several years ago,
  • 00:27:05.012 --> 00:27:07.581
  • I had the honor of giving of having an interview
  • 00:27:07.581 --> 00:27:10.884
  • With the exiled crown prince of iran, reza pahlavi, right,
  • 00:27:10.884 --> 00:27:15.022
  • Who was the son of the exiled and late, shah of iran,
  • 00:27:15.022 --> 00:27:19.760
  • Who was pro-american
  • 00:27:19.760 --> 00:27:20.928
  • And pro-israel and pro-western in his day, though
  • 00:27:20.928 --> 00:27:24.264
  • He was also quite cruel in the latter years of the shah's,
  • 00:27:24.264 --> 00:27:29.069
  • You know, government.
  • 00:27:29.570 --> 00:27:30.637
  • But i had the opportunity to interview,
  • 00:27:30.637 --> 00:27:32.773
  • The crown prince, the exiled crown
  • 00:27:32.773 --> 00:27:34.475
  • Prince, the son of the shah
  • 00:27:34.475 --> 00:27:35.509
  • Reza pahlavi in israel when he made his first ever
  • 00:27:35.509 --> 00:27:38.812
  • Historic visit there.
  • 00:27:38.812 --> 00:27:40.114
  • We should rerun that interview on the rosenberg report.
  • 00:27:40.114 --> 00:27:44.184
  • You should run clips of it as well,
  • 00:27:44.184 --> 00:27:45.819
  • Because one of the questions now that the supreme leader is,
  • 00:27:45.819 --> 00:27:48.922
  • Is is rotting in hell,
  • 00:27:48.922 --> 00:27:51.859
  • Is who will lead iran going forward.
  • 00:27:51.859 --> 00:27:55.662
  • And it's too early to say that reza pahlavi will be the guy.
  • 00:27:55.662 --> 00:28:00.334
  • Right? there's a lot more that would have to happen.
  • 00:28:00.334 --> 00:28:02.870
  • But we need to start understanding
  • 00:28:02.870 --> 00:28:04.304
  • Who are these people?
  • 00:28:04.304 --> 00:28:05.572
  • And he said he wanted to make a cyrus accords deal with israel
  • 00:28:05.572 --> 00:28:09.710
  • Making peace.
  • 00:28:09.710 --> 00:28:11.278
  • And i think the iranian regime or the reagan people
  • 00:28:11.278 --> 00:28:14.848
  • Are going to thank the israeli people
  • 00:28:14.848 --> 00:28:17.584
  • For liberating them just the way israeli jews
  • 00:28:17.584 --> 00:28:21.388
  • Thank king cyrus, that great persian
  • 00:28:21.388 --> 00:28:24.491
  • Leader, for liberating us so many years ago.
  • 00:28:24.491 --> 00:28:27.728
  • Yeah, joe, great way to close that.
  • 00:28:27.728 --> 00:28:29.930
  • Wow. exciting time.
  • 00:28:29.930 --> 00:28:31.098
  • Thank you for sharing that.
  • 00:28:31.098 --> 00:28:32.266
  • The cyrus accords, folks.
  • 00:28:32.266 --> 00:28:34.301
  • Is that the doorstep, joel? great job, my friend.
  • 00:28:34.301 --> 00:28:36.470
  • We'll see you again soon. god bless.
  • 00:28:36.470 --> 00:28:38.238
  • Folks, fasten your seat belt.
  • 00:28:38.238 --> 00:28:39.439
  • I believe a new day is coming in the middle east.
  • 00:28:39.439 --> 00:28:42.810
  • A new day for iran.
  • 00:28:42.810 --> 00:28:44.378
  • I truly believe we can see revival in persia, modern day
  • 00:28:44.378 --> 00:28:48.248
  • Iran, and that the gospel can go out from that land.
  • 00:28:48.248 --> 00:28:52.319
  • Nearly half a century, the iranian people have lived
  • 00:28:52.319 --> 00:28:55.422
  • Under the jackboot of these tyrants in tehran,
  • 00:28:55.422 --> 00:28:59.626
  • The iranian regime, islamic fanatics have oppressed their
  • 00:28:59.626 --> 00:29:03.897
  • Own people in horrific ways and that may be about to end.
  • 00:29:03.897 --> 00:29:08.335
  • We could see a new era in iran, and no one knows that better
  • 00:29:08.335 --> 00:29:13.907
  • Than our good friend, pastor reza safa
  • 00:29:13.907 --> 00:29:16.844
  • He's a director, founder of tbn nejat,
  • 00:29:16.844 --> 00:29:19.646
  • And what he does is very important.
  • 00:29:19.646 --> 00:29:21.949
  • I cannot understate it.
  • 00:29:21.949 --> 00:29:23.450
  • For decades, pastor reza has beamed the gospel into iran.
  • 00:29:23.450 --> 00:29:29.189
  • That's right.
  • 00:29:29.189 --> 00:29:30.190
  • And because of his brave efforts, it's a major,
  • 00:29:30.190 --> 00:29:32.926
  • Perhaps the main reason that iran.
  • 00:29:32.926 --> 00:29:35.429
  • Yes, the world's number one state sponsor of terrorism.
  • 00:29:35.429 --> 00:29:38.098
  • I know it's also home at the same time to the world's
  • 00:29:38.098 --> 00:29:42.269
  • Fastest growing church, largely underground and largely
  • 00:29:42.269 --> 00:29:46.373
  • Listening to messages
  • 00:29:46.373 --> 00:29:47.875
  • From our friend, pastor reza safa of tbn.
  • 00:29:47.875 --> 00:29:50.811
  • Najat reza, you and i have been talking
  • 00:29:50.811 --> 00:29:52.946
  • About this a long time, my friend.
  • 00:29:52.946 --> 00:29:54.648
  • First of all, it is great to see you.
  • 00:29:54.648 --> 00:29:56.884
  • Secondly, man with god, all things are possible
  • 00:29:56.884 --> 00:30:00.520
  • And you can't stop the gospel.
  • 00:30:00.520 --> 00:30:02.389
  • But sometimes it seemed like this day would never come.
  • 00:30:02.389 --> 00:30:05.893
  • Tell us how you're feeling as you watch these initial days.
  • 00:30:05.893 --> 00:30:09.529
  • Khamenei eliminated.
  • 00:30:09.529 --> 00:30:11.131
  • Of course, iran's wicked leadership eliminated,
  • 00:30:11.131 --> 00:30:14.701
  • And the iranian people perhaps on the verge
  • 00:30:14.701 --> 00:30:17.604
  • Of securing their freedom
  • 00:30:17.604 --> 00:30:19.039
  • For the first time in nearly half a century.
  • 00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:21.275
  • It's a joy to be with you again, eric,
  • 00:30:22.042 --> 00:30:25.045
  • And thank you for doing these programs and bringing light to
  • 00:30:25.045 --> 00:30:30.217
  • What is happening in the middle east.
  • 00:30:30.217 --> 00:30:32.586
  • You know, for 47, a nation has been oppressed by a
  • 00:30:32.586 --> 00:30:37.424
  • By a tyranny, by a repressive regime, islamic regime.
  • 00:30:37.424 --> 00:30:42.796
  • And i believe god allowed this force, this regime
  • 00:30:42.796 --> 00:30:46.366
  • To come to power in 1979, in order to show the reality
  • 00:30:46.366 --> 00:30:52.105
  • Of the evilness of this religion that has bound
  • 00:30:52.105 --> 00:30:56.143
  • 1.8 billion people on planet earth.
  • 00:30:56.143 --> 00:30:59.880
  • And this past 45 years, we have seen how this regime
  • 00:30:59.880 --> 00:31:03.984
  • Has this spread death and destruction
  • 00:31:03.984 --> 00:31:06.653
  • And curses on the middle east and throughout the world,
  • 00:31:06.653 --> 00:31:10.691
  • Sponsoring all of these radical islamic groups
  • 00:31:10.691 --> 00:31:15.195
  • In syria, in lebanon, in yemen, in iraq, and causing
  • 00:31:15.195 --> 00:31:21.134
  • Hundreds of thousands of death on this planet.
  • 00:31:21.134 --> 00:31:24.438
  • So it's their time for their judgment.
  • 00:31:24.438 --> 00:31:28.308
  • And so and meanwhile, god is bringing a tremendous
  • 00:31:28.308 --> 00:31:32.879
  • Harvest of souls out of that nation to his kingdom.
  • 00:31:32.879 --> 00:31:37.184
  • Yeah.
  • 00:31:37.417 --> 00:31:38.418
  • And they are driven past a reza by an islamic
  • 00:31:38.418 --> 00:31:41.021
  • In times, apocalyptic theology.
  • 00:31:41.021 --> 00:31:44.291
  • And they're going out, in their view,
  • 00:31:44.291 --> 00:31:45.892
  • It seems, in a blaze of glory.
  • 00:31:45.892 --> 00:31:47.828
  • Look, they're in their death throes, and yet they're firing
  • 00:31:47.828 --> 00:31:51.198
  • Rockets, missiles, drones at not only israel and u.s.
  • 00:31:51.198 --> 00:31:54.534
  • Bases in the region, but surrounding arab and muslim
  • 00:31:54.534 --> 00:31:58.338
  • Nations also coming under fire from the iranian regime.
  • 00:31:58.338 --> 00:32:01.608
  • Is this the inevitable outcome for them, pastor reza,
  • 00:32:01.608 --> 00:32:03.910
  • Just so people know, they're not going to go quietly,
  • 00:32:03.910 --> 00:32:06.046
  • They have that apocalyptic mindset
  • 00:32:06.046 --> 00:32:08.015
  • And we can, sadly,
  • 00:32:08.015 --> 00:32:09.216
  • Probably expect more of this from them in the days to come.
  • 00:32:09.216 --> 00:32:12.285
  • As again, their backs are against the wall.
  • 00:32:12.285 --> 00:32:14.921
  • You know, with what they have done these past
  • 00:32:14.921 --> 00:32:17.724
  • 47 years causing so many death and destruction.
  • 00:32:17.724 --> 00:32:22.596
  • I said to the lord one day, my pray.
  • 00:32:22.596 --> 00:32:24.464
  • So, lord, if these people die and natural death,
  • 00:32:24.464 --> 00:32:28.802
  • People in iran and in the middle east will call you unjust.
  • 00:32:28.802 --> 00:32:32.806
  • You have to judge these people for what they have accomplished.
  • 00:32:32.806 --> 00:32:36.977
  • As a matter of fact, last sunday in our bible study group,
  • 00:32:36.977 --> 00:32:40.380
  • As i was teaching our persian group,
  • 00:32:40.380 --> 00:32:42.582
  • A small group in southern california,
  • 00:32:42.582 --> 00:32:44.651
  • It came out of my my spirit and i said that,
  • 00:32:44.651 --> 00:32:49.022
  • Harmony, the
  • 00:32:49.356 --> 00:32:51.091
  • Ayatollah khomeini will die soon, will be killed soon.
  • 00:32:51.091 --> 00:32:55.062
  • And a week later i forgot about it.
  • 00:32:55.062 --> 00:32:57.397
  • And one of our church members, he said, do you remember
  • 00:32:57.397 --> 00:33:00.000
  • When that happened?
  • 00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:01.101
  • He said, do you remember what you said last sunday?
  • 00:33:01.101 --> 00:33:03.003
  • So it is time for god to show justice,
  • 00:33:03.003 --> 00:33:07.808
  • And also at the same time, his mercy and his grace
  • 00:33:07.808 --> 00:33:11.211
  • Upon an incredible group of people that have been resilient
  • 00:33:11.211 --> 00:33:16.283
  • And hopeful and fighting for their freedom
  • 00:33:16.283 --> 00:33:19.586
  • For the past 47 years.
  • 00:33:19.586 --> 00:33:22.722
  • Yeah. reza, i want to ask you more about that.
  • 00:33:22.722 --> 00:33:24.524
  • Look, you've got great contacts,
  • 00:33:24.524 --> 00:33:25.892
  • Obviously, on the ground inside iran.
  • 00:33:25.892 --> 00:33:28.228
  • What are you hearing right now from the iranian people,
  • 00:33:28.228 --> 00:33:30.897
  • The iranian church?
  • 00:33:30.897 --> 00:33:31.932
  • We've seen the footage,
  • 00:33:31.932 --> 00:33:32.899
  • Jubilation in the streets, especially after
  • 00:33:32.899 --> 00:33:34.901
  • The announcement that khamenei was killed.
  • 00:33:34.901 --> 00:33:36.970
  • What are you hearing on the ground?
  • 00:33:36.970 --> 00:33:38.305
  • Are the iranian people ready?
  • 00:33:38.305 --> 00:33:39.539
  • President trump
  • 00:33:39.539 --> 00:33:40.607
  • And prime minister netanyahu are saying, look,
  • 00:33:40.607 --> 00:33:42.776
  • We are setting the stage for you.
  • 00:33:42.776 --> 00:33:44.478
  • Now. go out and grab it. take your freedom.
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  • Do you get the sense of
  • 00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:47.814
  • The iranian people are ready to do that?
  • 00:33:47.814 --> 00:33:49.850
  • You know, the situation
  • 00:33:49.850 --> 00:33:51.051
  • That two weeks ago looked almost hopeless
  • 00:33:51.051 --> 00:33:54.654
  • And a despair and almost like a spirit of depression
  • 00:33:54.654 --> 00:33:59.292
  • Was coming upon the people because they saw
  • 00:33:59.292 --> 00:34:02.596
  • That they cannot overcome by their own forces.
  • 00:34:02.596 --> 00:34:05.599
  • And they were begging president trump to do something about it.
  • 00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:09.002
  • All of a sudden,
  • 00:34:09.002 --> 00:34:10.370
  • A hope arises in the hearts of millions of people
  • 00:34:10.370 --> 00:34:13.740
  • That there is a possibility that it change.
  • 00:34:13.740 --> 00:34:16.810
  • It will happen, and this regime will will fall.
  • 00:34:16.810 --> 00:34:20.180
  • And so a joy, that unspeakable joy that i've seen in the hearts
  • 00:34:20.180 --> 00:34:24.417
  • Of many people, iranians, as well as the church people
  • 00:34:24.417 --> 00:34:27.988
  • I heard a minister said,
  • 00:34:27.988 --> 00:34:30.857
  • The bible says, do not rejoice in the death of the wicked.
  • 00:34:30.857 --> 00:34:33.994
  • But i have to say i am rejoicing.
  • 00:34:33.994 --> 00:34:36.263
  • And so because people are craving for freedom
  • 00:34:36.263 --> 00:34:40.033
  • And they see president trump and ezra,
  • 00:34:40.033 --> 00:34:43.036
  • All you have to see all these,
  • 00:34:43.036 --> 00:34:44.604
  • Posts that i see about iranian loving on israelis and,
  • 00:34:44.604 --> 00:34:49.442
  • Thanking all their military forces for what they're doing,
  • 00:34:49.442 --> 00:34:52.879
  • The craving for their freedom.
  • 00:34:52.879 --> 00:34:54.814
  • It's just unspeakable.
  • 00:34:54.814 --> 00:34:57.284
  • Looking ahead, short term
  • 00:34:57.284 --> 00:35:00.420
  • Potential successors to this regime.
  • 00:35:01.221 --> 00:35:03.623
  • Very tough to say.
  • 00:35:03.623 --> 00:35:04.891
  • I know we have another reza reza pahlavi, the son of the shah.
  • 00:35:04.891 --> 00:35:07.994
  • He's based in america right now.
  • 00:35:07.994 --> 00:35:09.796
  • A lot of people are talking about him as perhaps a bridge.
  • 00:35:09.796 --> 00:35:13.533
  • Maybe reza pahlavi is kind of a carrot,
  • 00:35:13.533 --> 00:35:15.969
  • Leads a caretaker government
  • 00:35:15.969 --> 00:35:17.871
  • Before iran has god willing, free and fair elections.
  • 00:35:17.871 --> 00:35:21.575
  • Eventually, when?
  • 00:35:21.575 --> 00:35:23.610
  • And we hope it's soon when the dust settles.
  • 00:35:23.610 --> 00:35:26.213
  • Reza, what do you expect in the immediate
  • 00:35:26.213 --> 00:35:28.281
  • Aftermath of this operation?
  • 00:35:28.281 --> 00:35:30.650
  • This is a very tough question, eric, because it is,
  • 00:35:30.650 --> 00:35:34.421
  • You know, iran has, 30 plus different groups, people groups.
  • 00:35:34.421 --> 00:35:40.227
  • We have kurdish people, we have baluchi, we have lori,
  • 00:35:40.227 --> 00:35:43.129
  • We have azeri.
  • 00:35:43.129 --> 00:35:44.431
  • And some of these groups want their own independence,
  • 00:35:44.431 --> 00:35:47.500
  • Like kurdish people
  • 00:35:47.500 --> 00:35:48.635
  • Have been fighting for centuries for their independence.
  • 00:35:48.635 --> 00:35:52.372
  • So iran needs a strong leader, a democratic leader
  • 00:35:52.372 --> 00:35:56.476
  • That can unify these forces.
  • 00:35:56.476 --> 00:35:59.512
  • And, people are angry.
  • 00:35:59.512 --> 00:36:02.015
  • And that anger, if you don't respond to it
  • 00:36:02.015 --> 00:36:05.418
  • Quickly, it can turn into a hate and division.
  • 00:36:05.418 --> 00:36:08.755
  • I saw that in the beginning of revolution, when i
  • 00:36:08.755 --> 00:36:12.192
  • When i went back to america after 1979 revolution,
  • 00:36:12.192 --> 00:36:15.762
  • I saw that division and khomeini through force,
  • 00:36:15.762 --> 00:36:19.332
  • United everything.
  • 00:36:19.332 --> 00:36:20.867
  • He killed every opposition force.
  • 00:36:20.867 --> 00:36:23.503
  • So this is going to take place after this regime falls,
  • 00:36:23.503 --> 00:36:27.507
  • Because people are angry.
  • 00:36:27.507 --> 00:36:28.975
  • People have been oppressed for so long.
  • 00:36:28.975 --> 00:36:31.211
  • It's like a bird kept in a cage.
  • 00:36:31.211 --> 00:36:33.513
  • When you release
  • 00:36:33.513 --> 00:36:34.648
  • That bird harshly, it's going to fly all over the place
  • 00:36:34.648 --> 00:36:37.250
  • Trying to find its own direction.
  • 00:36:37.250 --> 00:36:39.386
  • So the transition.
  • 00:36:39.386 --> 00:36:41.187
  • I'm praying that he's going to be a peaceful and easy
  • 00:36:41.187 --> 00:36:44.624
  • Transition, but in reality, it's going to take time.
  • 00:36:44.624 --> 00:36:47.661
  • And so we have to pray because majority of people are voting
  • 00:36:47.661 --> 00:36:51.364
  • For reza pahlavi, because there there has not been a
  • 00:36:51.364 --> 00:36:55.802
  • A leader raised within that within the country.
  • 00:36:55.802 --> 00:37:00.240
  • So he has been outside,
  • 00:37:00.240 --> 00:37:02.776
  • He came out of the country just the same time as i came.
  • 00:37:02.776 --> 00:37:06.313
  • And so we have to pray for this transition
  • 00:37:06.313 --> 00:37:09.449
  • That is going to be the right transition.
  • 00:37:09.449 --> 00:37:11.351
  • And iran is not going to be fragmented into 100 pieces.
  • 00:37:11.351 --> 00:37:14.988
  • So it is it is a very sensitive time.
  • 00:37:14.988 --> 00:37:19.125
  • Yet we do need to pray.
  • 00:37:19.626 --> 00:37:20.960
  • And i
  • 00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:22.195
  • Can't think of a better way to end our time together, reza,
  • 00:37:22.195 --> 00:37:23.630
  • Than having you take us out in prayer.
  • 00:37:23.630 --> 00:37:25.398
  • We'll have more come, folks. much more to come after.
  • 00:37:25.398 --> 00:37:28.268
  • Pastor reza, can you take us out right now?
  • 00:37:28.268 --> 00:37:30.537
  • Our segment together. reza, with a quick prayer.
  • 00:37:30.537 --> 00:37:32.939
  • We've only got about 15 seconds,
  • 00:37:32.939 --> 00:37:34.574
  • But i can give us a quick prayer for the people of iran.
  • 00:37:34.574 --> 00:37:37.010
  • Father, we thank you for this time
  • 00:37:37.010 --> 00:37:39.746
  • In which you have called us.
  • 00:37:39.746 --> 00:37:41.281
  • Thank you for tbn.
  • 00:37:41.281 --> 00:37:43.550
  • That has been a tremendous tool
  • 00:37:43.550 --> 00:37:46.319
  • To get the gospel to the middle east.
  • 00:37:46.319 --> 00:37:49.022
  • We pray for the iranian people, those who are mourning today
  • 00:37:49.022 --> 00:37:52.592
  • Because they lost their sons and daughters.
  • 00:37:52.592 --> 00:37:54.928
  • We pray for wisdom for our president, for israeli
  • 00:37:54.928 --> 00:37:58.264
  • Forces, for the leaders of iran, the coming leaders.
  • 00:37:58.264 --> 00:38:01.901
  • Father god, in your holy name, in jesus precious name,
  • 00:38:01.901 --> 00:38:06.439
  • That your will be done.
  • 00:38:06.439 --> 00:38:08.375
  • Amen, amen, amen, amen.
  • 00:38:08.875 --> 00:38:11.778
  • Hey, my friend, i told you, get ready.
  • 00:38:11.778 --> 00:38:13.813
  • Get some sleep, man,
  • 00:38:13.813 --> 00:38:15.048
  • Because you're going to be very busy with that great harvest
  • 00:38:15.048 --> 00:38:18.084
  • That we're about to see unfold in iran. reza, we love you.
  • 00:38:18.084 --> 00:38:20.720
  • God bless. i love you, brother. again.
  • 00:38:20.720 --> 00:38:22.389
  • That shot you too, brother. always great to see.
  • 00:38:22.389 --> 00:38:25.258
  • We will do it again soon. reza, talk to you soon.
  • 00:38:25.258 --> 00:38:27.093
  • God bless my friend.
  • 00:38:27.093 --> 00:38:28.328
  • Hey, we've got tbn day job
  • 00:38:28.328 --> 00:38:30.330
  • Beaming the gospel into iran and throughout the muslim world.
  • 00:38:30.330 --> 00:38:33.933
  • Really?
  • 00:38:33.933 --> 00:38:34.834
  • We've also got tbn israel, an amazing,
  • 00:38:34.834 --> 00:38:37.670
  • Amazing team on the ground in god's land.
  • 00:38:37.670 --> 00:38:40.907
  • And a big part of that is our good friend
  • 00:38:40.907 --> 00:38:42.976
  • Marty shoshana,
  • 00:38:42.976 --> 00:38:44.077
  • Co-host of boots on the ground, seen right here on tbn
  • 00:38:44.077 --> 00:38:47.347
  • Every thursday night.
  • 00:38:47.347 --> 00:38:48.581
  • Now, about a day or two ago,
  • 00:38:48.581 --> 00:38:50.550
  • He filed this very important report.
  • 00:38:50.550 --> 00:38:53.119
  • How did israel get khamenei the supreme leader?
  • 00:38:53.119 --> 00:38:57.123
  • Here's more with marty. great break down. take a look.
  • 00:38:57.123 --> 00:39:00.860
  • The targets were in
  • 00:39:01.327 --> 00:39:02.295
  • Place within a window of seconds.
  • 00:39:02.295 --> 00:39:05.598
  • Intelligence knows that the irgc regime's senior figures
  • 00:39:05.598 --> 00:39:09.569
  • In tehran are gathering after the ramadan meal, together
  • 00:39:09.569 --> 00:39:14.407
  • With no other than the supreme leader, ali khamenei.
  • 00:39:14.407 --> 00:39:18.611
  • And then, without a single warning,
  • 00:39:18.611 --> 00:39:21.614
  • Everything lands at them all at once.
  • 00:39:21.614 --> 00:39:24.584
  • An intense, simultaneous strike at several points
  • 00:39:24.584 --> 00:39:28.688
  • In the heart
  • 00:39:28.688 --> 00:39:29.789
  • Of the capital of iran, israel and the united states
  • 00:39:29.789 --> 00:39:34.427
  • Eliminated the supreme leader, ali khamenei,
  • 00:39:34.427 --> 00:39:38.198
  • And at the same time struck the closest command circle.
  • 00:39:38.198 --> 00:39:42.435
  • And in those same hours
  • 00:39:42.936 --> 00:39:44.604
  • In israel, they are already talking about
  • 00:39:44.604 --> 00:39:46.940
  • What would have been impossible to imagine.
  • 00:39:46.940 --> 00:39:49.108
  • Just a week ago.
  • 00:39:49.108 --> 00:39:51.478
  • This is not just another campaign.
  • 00:39:51.478 --> 00:39:53.746
  • This is an attempt to dismantle a regime
  • 00:39:53.746 --> 00:39:56.483
  • While it is still looking for the keys to the command room.
  • 00:39:56.483 --> 00:40:01.054
  • That's to understand how we got to this moment.
  • 00:40:01.054 --> 00:40:03.823
  • We go back for a second
  • 00:40:03.823 --> 00:40:05.692
  • How they ruled the islamic republic with an iron hand.
  • 00:40:05.692 --> 00:40:09.229
  • For 35 years he held the security apparatus.
  • 00:40:09.229 --> 00:40:13.099
  • He suppressed protests
  • 00:40:13.099 --> 00:40:14.534
  • And built around iran the axis of resistance.
  • 00:40:14.534 --> 00:40:18.171
  • That's why he became the central target.
  • 00:40:18.171 --> 00:40:21.875
  • Not as a symbol, as the engine
  • 00:40:21.875 --> 00:40:24.377
  • That keeps everything in place now alongside him.
  • 00:40:24.377 --> 00:40:27.680
  • So that people were the pillars of the system.
  • 00:40:27.680 --> 00:40:30.683
  • His senior advisor
  • 00:40:30.683 --> 00:40:32.218
  • Ali khamenei, the commander of the revolutionary guards,
  • 00:40:32.218 --> 00:40:35.755
  • Muhammad agbo, the defense minister aziz nasir,
  • 00:40:35.755 --> 00:40:40.393
  • And the chief of staff abdul rahim mousavi,
  • 00:40:40.393 --> 00:40:44.097
  • Names that came up again and again
  • 00:40:44.097 --> 00:40:46.900
  • In threats, again and again in situation assessments
  • 00:40:46.900 --> 00:40:50.537
  • And now come up again on the elimination list.
  • 00:40:50.537 --> 00:40:54.107
  • This didn't explode by accident.
  • 00:40:54.741 --> 00:40:57.110
  • This was a scenario waiting for one precise moment,
  • 00:40:57.110 --> 00:41:01.681
  • The moment the indication
  • 00:41:01.681 --> 00:41:02.749
  • Arrived about the gathering, the decision was won.
  • 00:41:02.749 --> 00:41:06.185
  • Don't drag time.
  • 00:41:06.586 --> 00:41:08.121
  • Do not improve conditions.
  • 00:41:08.121 --> 00:41:09.789
  • Don't wait for the next night.
  • 00:41:09.789 --> 00:41:11.891
  • Strike now before the iranian system
  • 00:41:11.891 --> 00:41:15.628
  • Does the one thing it knows how to do very well
  • 00:41:15.628 --> 00:41:18.665
  • To disperse, to dig in and to preserve the chain of command.
  • 00:41:18.665 --> 00:41:23.770
  • This is
  • 00:41:24.003 --> 00:41:25.038
  • A hit to the chain of command, to the leadership,
  • 00:41:25.038 --> 00:41:27.373
  • And to the ability of a system to make decisions under fire.
  • 00:41:27.373 --> 00:41:32.078
  • The only question is who regains composure first
  • 00:41:32.078 --> 00:41:35.448
  • And who breaks first?
  • 00:41:35.448 --> 00:41:39.052
  • Great breakdown from what this show, shawnee folks.
  • 00:41:39.052 --> 00:41:41.321
  • As you can see, all is quiet right now.
  • 00:41:41.321 --> 00:41:43.323
  • It's the middle of the night
  • 00:41:43.323 --> 00:41:44.390
  • In tel aviv, israel, and we pray it stays that way.
  • 00:41:44.390 --> 00:41:47.927
  • And we pray that, of course, for our good friend
  • 00:41:47.927 --> 00:41:49.929
  • Jair pinto is joining us now.
  • 00:41:49.929 --> 00:41:51.397
  • He's marty's co-host on our tbn show, boots on the ground
  • 00:41:51.397 --> 00:41:55.268
  • Right here. every thursday night, 8:30 p.m.
  • 00:41:55.268 --> 00:41:57.203
  • Eastern time.
  • 00:41:57.203 --> 00:41:58.471
  • Yeah, here's a great breakdown there
  • 00:41:58.471 --> 00:42:00.006
  • From your colleague and co-host, marty.
  • 00:42:00.006 --> 00:42:02.208
  • Hey, we're hearing coming over the wires now.
  • 00:42:02.208 --> 00:42:03.977
  • We're live, folks.
  • 00:42:03.977 --> 00:42:05.178
  • By the way, just a reminder, if you are just joining us,
  • 00:42:05.178 --> 00:42:07.180
  • It's a special report on the middle east conflict.
  • 00:42:07.180 --> 00:42:09.616
  • Yahya is joining us live from jerusalem.
  • 00:42:09.616 --> 00:42:11.484
  • Middle of the night there.
  • 00:42:11.484 --> 00:42:12.552
  • But yeah, we are hearing
  • 00:42:12.552 --> 00:42:14.253
  • That iran has nominated a new supreme leader.
  • 00:42:14.253 --> 00:42:18.257
  • Now, the ayatollah khomeini met his demise
  • 00:42:18.257 --> 00:42:20.627
  • Over the weekend, of course, but now his son apparently,
  • 00:42:20.627 --> 00:42:24.063
  • Has been nominated as the new supreme leader.
  • 00:42:24.063 --> 00:42:26.466
  • I don't know how long his shelf life will be,
  • 00:42:26.466 --> 00:42:28.735
  • But do we know anything about him or this process?
  • 00:42:28.735 --> 00:42:31.204
  • There?
  • 00:42:31.204 --> 00:42:32.605
  • Well, at the moment, we only have reports
  • 00:42:33.439 --> 00:42:35.675
  • That he was actually being appointed
  • 00:42:35.675 --> 00:42:38.411
  • As the next supreme leader of iran,
  • 00:42:38.411 --> 00:42:42.248
  • And he's been grooming for this job for quite a long time.
  • 00:42:42.248 --> 00:42:46.185
  • I would say that already a month ago, the ayatollah,
  • 00:42:46.185 --> 00:42:50.390
  • Supreme leader ali khamenei, when he was still alive,
  • 00:42:50.390 --> 00:42:53.326
  • He was already grooming and positioning his son
  • 00:42:53.326 --> 00:42:56.295
  • To take his place instead of him in case of an assassination
  • 00:42:56.295 --> 00:43:01.401
  • On his life. and this is what we're seeing.
  • 00:43:01.401 --> 00:43:03.670
  • We're seeing
  • 00:43:03.670 --> 00:43:04.837
  • That the ayatollah regime is now preserving its power.
  • 00:43:04.837 --> 00:43:08.374
  • But the big question, and this is what
  • 00:43:08.374 --> 00:43:10.309
  • I think that the irgc is doing
  • 00:43:10.309 --> 00:43:12.378
  • Here, is placing him as a puppet leader
  • 00:43:12.378 --> 00:43:16.182
  • While the military commanders of the irgc
  • 00:43:16.182 --> 00:43:20.153
  • Are actually the ones taking all the shots.
  • 00:43:20.153 --> 00:43:23.156
  • So this was one of the scenarios that israel
  • 00:43:23.156 --> 00:43:26.059
  • And the security establishment in the state of israel
  • 00:43:26.059 --> 00:43:29.395
  • Was fearing that the ayatollah regime
  • 00:43:29.395 --> 00:43:32.131
  • And the irgc will place a puppet leader
  • 00:43:32.131 --> 00:43:35.401
  • In the head of iran,
  • 00:43:35.868 --> 00:43:38.271
  • And then the radical military leaders will be the ones
  • 00:43:38.271 --> 00:43:41.974
  • That are actually taking all the shots.
  • 00:43:41.974 --> 00:43:44.944
  • Yeah, two things here.
  • 00:43:45.411 --> 00:43:47.013
  • Number one, the apple does not fall far
  • 00:43:47.013 --> 00:43:49.015
  • From the tree when it comes to company, son.
  • 00:43:49.015 --> 00:43:51.317
  • And number two, yeah, you mentioned the irgc
  • 00:43:51.317 --> 00:43:54.020
  • For people who may not know watching.
  • 00:43:54.020 --> 00:43:56.089
  • That's the islamic revolutionary guard corps.
  • 00:43:56.089 --> 00:43:58.925
  • Now i've compared them to the nazi ss, that loyal vanguard
  • 00:43:58.925 --> 00:44:04.130
  • That was loyal to hitler,
  • 00:44:04.130 --> 00:44:05.298
  • The biggest fanatics in the nazi regime.
  • 00:44:05.298 --> 00:44:08.568
  • I'd argue the irgc in iran is even more powerful.
  • 00:44:08.568 --> 00:44:11.370
  • They've got their hand in everything.
  • 00:44:11.370 --> 00:44:12.505
  • The nuclear program, the missile program, the economy.
  • 00:44:12.505 --> 00:44:15.842
  • Can you break down a little bit more of what
  • 00:44:15.842 --> 00:44:17.443
  • They're all about, the irgc and why they are now really
  • 00:44:17.443 --> 00:44:20.513
  • Kind of the pivotal player as things are unfolding in iran
  • 00:44:20.513 --> 00:44:24.717
  • So they can any dictatorial regime,
  • 00:44:25.485 --> 00:44:29.055
  • The leadership wants to consolidate all the power
  • 00:44:29.055 --> 00:44:33.059
  • Within the people that they trust.
  • 00:44:33.059 --> 00:44:34.961
  • The close people around them in the ayatollah
  • 00:44:34.961 --> 00:44:37.263
  • Regime is the irgc, the iranian revolutionary guards
  • 00:44:37.263 --> 00:44:40.767
  • Corps, and their job is, first of all, to make sure
  • 00:44:40.767 --> 00:44:44.570
  • That the revolution stays strong and the leadership in iran
  • 00:44:44.570 --> 00:44:48.040
  • Stays strong.
  • 00:44:48.040 --> 00:44:48.975
  • So for 35 years, and even more than that,
  • 00:44:48.975 --> 00:44:53.546
  • They have been taking all the government funding
  • 00:44:53.546 --> 00:44:57.116
  • From the military of iran.
  • 00:44:57.116 --> 00:44:59.418
  • And that's why you see that
  • 00:44:59.418 --> 00:45:00.686
  • The military elements in iran are very old and weak.
  • 00:45:00.686 --> 00:45:03.923
  • And consolidating all this money within the irgc, making sure
  • 00:45:03.923 --> 00:45:07.894
  • That they have the best quality personnel and equipment.
  • 00:45:07.894 --> 00:45:12.331
  • The second role, which is very important,
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  • Is to export the revolution of iran to other places
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  • In the middle east and around the world.
  • 00:45:18.905 --> 00:45:20.807
  • So they are the ones
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  • Who actually have been training hizbollah terrorists
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  • In the northern border between israel and lebanon.
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  • They are the ones who have been paying and training hamas
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  • Terrorists in the gaza strip, as well as the terrorist
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  • In yemen, and also other militias in iraq and in syria.
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  • So they're not just taking control of the iranian people.
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  • They're also making sure
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  • That iran keeps destabilizing the entire world.
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  • And they are the ones who are also making
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  • Or used to make the connections and the business ties
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  • With venezuela, so that controlling the money,
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  • The trade, the, know how the military power
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  • And making sure that the people of iran
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  • Do not stand up against this
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  • Regime with brutal ways, executions in the streets,
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  • Arresting people for no reason, and trials within one day
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  • Without any kind of defense or normal process.
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  • So they are the really big guys and i think that
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  • Is a good comparison to who they are.
  • 00:46:22.802 --> 00:46:25.671
  • Pastor jack hibbs, host of real life with jack
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  • Hibbs, senior pastor of calvary chapel chino hills.
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  • Pastor jack, wow.
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  • You and i have been talking about this.
  • 00:46:32.478 --> 00:46:33.546
  • I've said this to a few guests tonight,
  • 00:46:33.546 --> 00:46:34.780
  • But you and i have been in the
  • 00:46:34.780 --> 00:46:36.015
  • Trenches for well over a decade talking about this very topic.
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  • The iranian regime, the threat it poses to the world.
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  • What are your early impressions?
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  • Day one here,
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  • Pastor jack, as this joint us-israeli operation unfolds,
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  • What have you seen so far that has struck you?
  • 00:46:50.429 --> 00:46:52.498
  • Of course, khamenei is no more and it seems like so far
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  • This is moving in a pretty good direction, god
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  • Willing, for the iranian people first and foremost.
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  • Well, eric, you said it, god willing.
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  • Number one thing is this
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  • People need to realize,
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  • If they don't already, that you're talking about
  • 00:47:06.679 --> 00:47:08.347
  • The two greatest militaries on the face of the earth.
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  • Thank god,
  • 00:47:10.983 --> 00:47:12.251
  • Being united together as one, the israeli army and the u.s.
  • 00:47:12.251 --> 00:47:15.521
  • Forces coming together.
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  • And what i hope and see is that this success continues.
  • 00:47:17.323 --> 00:47:20.526
  • Now, eric,
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  • You know well that there's a lot of wild cards in this,
  • 00:47:21.694 --> 00:47:24.497
  • In this group.
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  • I say group loosely, though,
  • 00:47:25.898 --> 00:47:29.001
  • Khamenei's dead and many of his top advisors.
  • 00:47:29.001 --> 00:47:31.938
  • The fact remains that there are tens of thousands
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  • Of very ardent followers of his, worldview,
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  • Which, you know, eric, is an apocalyptic worldview.
  • 00:47:39.979 --> 00:47:43.849
  • This faction of islam believes in absolute destruction,
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  • A world on fire to bring back the the mahdi.
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  • That is so.
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  • So what we see is a victory.
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  • In a strange way,
  • 00:47:53.960 --> 00:47:55.061
  • Eric, as they take these hits and there's more fire.
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  • They're not defeated by that.
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  • They don't just get another leader
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  • Unless god in his grace, allows the u.s.
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  • And israel to finish this off.
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  • About a minute left, you mentioned the mahdi
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  • In this iranian apocalyptic ideology.
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  • They are true believers in this.
  • 00:48:13.846 --> 00:48:15.448
  • Just so people realize that they will shape
  • 00:48:15.448 --> 00:48:17.850
  • The ayatollahs, will shape policy around these insane,
  • 00:48:17.850 --> 00:48:20.619
  • Apocalyptic, apocalyptic beliefs.
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  • About a minute left. break that down for us real quick.
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  • Yeah, yeah.
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  • Thank you. eric, we've got to be careful.
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  • Everybody in the west, we don't get it.
  • 00:48:27.860 --> 00:48:29.495
  • We think you know, trusting, so to speak, in our chariots
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  • And our horses, aircraft carriers
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  • And fighter jets, i get it, but we got to remember something.
  • 00:48:34.066 --> 00:48:37.136
  • These are the clashes of two worldviews.
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  • One of them very much acting politically, geopolitically.
  • 00:48:40.172 --> 00:48:44.276
  • And the other one is is acting theocratic.
  • 00:48:44.276 --> 00:48:47.380
  • They believe that
  • 00:48:47.380 --> 00:48:48.647
  • The more they get beat up,
  • 00:48:48.647 --> 00:48:50.416
  • The more that their messiah is nearing.
  • 00:48:50.416 --> 00:48:52.852
  • So this is a very bizarre worldview.
  • 00:48:52.852 --> 00:48:55.721
  • It is an islamic worldview.
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  • And we need to remember that we better be prayerful
  • 00:48:57.256 --> 00:49:00.526
  • And not pop the cork too soon, so to speak.
  • 00:49:00.526 --> 00:49:03.195
  • Because, eric, you know, there's a lot of hardware in the area
  • 00:49:03.195 --> 00:49:05.765
  • We got him in. it took a while.
  • 00:49:05.765 --> 00:49:07.733
  • We've got to be able to safely get this out.
  • 00:49:07.733 --> 00:49:09.568
  • When this is over, but we must follow through.
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  • We've got to finish.
  • 00:49:11.971 --> 00:49:13.305
  • I heard mike pompeo today say the greatest mistake that israel
  • 00:49:13.305 --> 00:49:16.742
  • And america can make is not finishing this job.
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  • Yes, pastor jack hibbs, important points.
  • 00:49:20.246 --> 00:49:22.681
  • So well said.
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  • As always, my friend.
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  • Folks, check them out on the real life real life network.
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  • Real life with jack hibbs, calvary chapel,
  • 00:49:25.785 --> 00:49:28.454
  • Chino hills pastor jack, thank you so much.
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  • Unfolding historic bible times.
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  • We are living in them right now.
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  • Pastor jack, you're on the forefront of it.
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  • We appreciate you, my friend. god bless.
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  • We'll see you again soon.
  • 00:49:36.562 --> 00:49:37.763
  • And folks, as we're drawing to a close here, this one hour
  • 00:49:37.763 --> 00:49:41.167
  • Special live broadcast war in iran, it's here.
  • 00:49:41.167 --> 00:49:45.671
  • You know, we talk about the ideology.
  • 00:49:45.671 --> 00:49:47.506
  • And pastor jack just broke it down.
  • 00:49:47.506 --> 00:49:49.008
  • Joe rosenberg broke it down earlier in the show.
  • 00:49:49.008 --> 00:49:52.278
  • The first rule of war, sun tzu, the art of war.
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  • Know your enemy.
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  • You have to understand this iranian ideology
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  • To really grasp what we are up against.
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  • Picture the cold war.
  • 00:50:04.857 --> 00:50:06.092
  • We had what was called mutually assured destruction, mad
  • 00:50:06.092 --> 00:50:10.763
  • Between the u.s. and the soviets.
  • 00:50:10.763 --> 00:50:12.731
  • We had tons of nuclear weapons pointed at each other.
  • 00:50:12.731 --> 00:50:15.601
  • But the u.s., at the end of the day,
  • 00:50:15.601 --> 00:50:17.203
  • We didn't want to die and the soviets didn't want to die.
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  • It was mutually assured destruction.
  • 00:50:19.705 --> 00:50:22.074
  • So both held their fire.
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  • You don't have that option with the iranian regime.
  • 00:50:23.943 --> 00:50:27.113
  • Also during during the cold war, another great leader,
  • 00:50:27.113 --> 00:50:29.682
  • Ronald reagan, said about the soviets trust
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  • But verify when it comes to iran's
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  • Mullahs, don't trust but verify.
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  • That's why we are at this moment that we have reached today.
  • 00:50:38.657 --> 00:50:42.027
  • Because folks, month after month, year after year,
  • 00:50:42.027 --> 00:50:45.998
  • Iran's leadership has rejected any and all attempts
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  • To get them to join and become a responsible member
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  • Of the community of nations.
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  • Give up your nuclear weapons program,
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  • Curtail that ballistic missile program.
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  • And of course, stop, cease and desist
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  • The sponsorship of terror groups like hamas and hezbollah,
  • 00:51:05.384 --> 00:51:09.688
  • The houthis,
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  • All the rest
  • 00:51:10.523 --> 00:51:11.690
  • That have just caused mayhem, misery, murder, maiming
  • 00:51:11.690 --> 00:51:16.095
  • Throughout the middle east and really throughout the world
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  • For the better part of half a century.
  • 00:51:18.531 --> 00:51:20.599
  • At the end of the day,
  • 00:51:20.599 --> 00:51:21.834
  • President trump made attempt after attempt up until yesterday
  • 00:51:21.834 --> 00:51:24.403
  • To try and get the iranian regime to agree
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  • To some sort of deal which would curtail
  • 00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:30.276
  • Their nefarious activities throughout the region.
  • 00:51:30.276 --> 00:51:33.279
  • And guess what? they refused.
  • 00:51:33.279 --> 00:51:35.714
  • So the day of reckoning is upon the iranian regime.
  • 00:51:35.714 --> 00:51:38.951
  • It is finally facing justice.
  • 00:51:38.951 --> 00:51:40.519
  • So folks, as we close out here a few quick prayer points.
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  • Number one, pray for the people of iran
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  • That they finally gain, that freedom,
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  • That they can spread the gospel from iran.
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  • Amazing things could happen there to a free iran.
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  • Number two, american forces in the region
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  • Pray for their protection.
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  • Number three,
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  • The arab and muslim nations
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  • That iran is attacking in the region.
  • 00:52:01.774 --> 00:52:03.309
  • And of course, pray for the peace of jerusalem.
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  • Pray for israel, god's divine iron dome over israel.
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  • Pray for revival in the middle east and beyond.
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  • We're at historic moment here.
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  • Thanks so much for joining us for this great breakdown.
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  • And till next time, god bless you.
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  • We'll see you soon.
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