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| Special Report: Conflict in the Middle East Mashup | Stakelbeck Tonight | March 12, 2026

Welcome to stackelbeck. tonight
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I'm eric stackelbeck, and as war rages in the middle east,
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Islamic terrorists want to bring the fight to the american
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Homeland. two incidents today showed yet again that the
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Barbarians are not just at the gates, they are inside them in
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Norfolk, virginia. a muslim man who had previously been
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Arrested for supporting isis opened fire on the campus of
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Old dominion university. 36 year old mohammed jalloh, a
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Former national guardsman who was born in sierra leone,
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Killed one person and wounded two more before he himself was
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Killed. jalloh had been sentenced to 11 years in prison
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Back in 2017, thanks to his terrorism support. yet for some
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Reason, he was released in 2024, four years early. somebody
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Please make it make sense. now, we had another act of terror
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Today in michigan, just outside detroit, a man rammed his car
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Into the temple israel synagogue and then exchanged
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Gunfire with authorities. fox news reports that the terrorist
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Originally hailed from lebanon and was a resident of the
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Islamic enclave of dearborn, michigan, where muslim clerics
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Have railed against the united states and israel while
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Praising iran's regime and hezbollah. the synagogue
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Attacker was killed in today's shootout, but still managed to
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Wound several people. two incidents of terror on american
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Soil in one day. this follows an incident 12 days ago in
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Austin, texas, where a muslim man wearing a shirt emblazoned
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With an iranian flag and the phrase property of allah opened
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Fire at a bar and killed three people. then, of course, we had
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Last weekend's attempted bombing in new york city by two
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Isis sympathizers right in front of mayor zoran mamdani's
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Residence. mamdani doesn't seem too bothered by it, though. on
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Wednesday night, he held a muslim iftar dinner and prayers
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At city hall, featuring a young muslim man holding up his index
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Finger, which is the hand gesture used by isis members.
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Watch.
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>> from.
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>> a moment when you're asking yourself how you can reconnect
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To growing up with. being taught that.
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>> there. it is brought to you by the mayor of our nation's
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Largest city and financial capital. how nice. by the way,
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So much for separation of mosque and state. if a
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Christian mayor held an easter ceremony at city hall featuring
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Worship of jesus led by the mayor himself, liberal heads
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Would explode in real time, and we all know it. but remember,
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This is ultimately about the destruction of judeo-christian
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Western civilization. and mamdani, who is an islamo
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Communist, is one of the most visible faces of that push. but
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The undisputed world leader of all things anti-american,
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Anti-semitic, and just plain evil has been iran's regime for
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Nearly half a century. thankfully, that is about to
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Change, even if some semblance of iran's jihadist leadership
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Is able to maintain power after the joint us-israeli operation
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Ends. the world's number one state sponsor of terrorism will
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Be a shell of its former self. in the 13 days since it
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Launched operation epic fury. the united states has struck
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Over 6000 targets in iran and, along with israel, has
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Destroyed iran's navy and air force and eliminated most of
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Its top leadership. the regime is now in desperation mode,
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Trying to close the strategic strait of hormuz and send
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Global oil and gas prices soaring. but president trump
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Said today that u.s. forces are prepared for that scenario and
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Are well ahead of the game. watch.
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>> doing very well. our military is unsurpassed. has
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Never been anything like it. nobody's ever seen anything
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Like it, and we're doing what has to be done. should have
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Been done during a 47 year period. could have been done by
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A lot of different people. they chose not to do it, but they
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Really are a nation of terror and hate. and they're paying a
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Big price right now.
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>> meanwhile, israel is now fighting on two fronts as it
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Battles iran's chief proxy, hezbollah in lebanon. folks,
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The best case scenario when the dust settles would be the end
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Of hezbollah and its iranian masters as we know it. are the
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Iranian people ready to take up the mantle of freedom? and what
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Comes next in operation epic fury? top national security
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Expert jim hansen is here to break it down. and it all
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Starts now.
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Iran's new supreme leader is already escalating
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The rhetoric, threatening to attack us bases across the
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Middle east, targeting commercial shipping in the
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Strait of hormuz and warning regional governments to cut all
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Ties with washington. joining me now to break down what it
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All means is jim hansen, president of world strat and
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Chief strategist for the middle east forum. jim is one of
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America's leading national security analysts, and he
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Closely tracks the military and geopolitical developments
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Across the middle east and beyond. jim, always great to
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Have you with us, my friend. hey, when we talk about iran's
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New supreme leader, mojtaba khamenei, he released
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Supposedly this statement today, yet we didn't see any video. we
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Didn't hear any audio. there are reports, jim, that his legs
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Were wounded in the strike that eliminated his father about ten
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Days ago. what do we know right now about the status of mojtaba
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Khamenei? and it seems that if he is alive, he may not be long
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For this world.
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>> yeah, i love the fact that they used a cardboard cutout of
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Him as a stand in. i don't know if south park is now running
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The islamic republic, but that's not a good sign for them.
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He's probably alive, i think, but i don't know what condition
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He's in. it can't be good because it's embarrassing to
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Have to use those kind of, you know, tactics to cover up for
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The fact that you can't field a supreme leader and whoever's
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Left, you know, they still have obviously, people in positions
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Of power pulling the levers, firing the missiles and things
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Like that. but the damage and the danger inside that regime
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Is devastating. they are not who they used to be, which is
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Why i think they are flailing to make public statements that
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Make any sense at all.
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>> yeah. jim, look, when we talk about what comes next, god
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Willing post regime is this operation for all the military
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Successes and eliminating over 40 of iran's top leaders and
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Military officials, does this operation. at the end of the
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Day, when the dust settles, if the regime is still in power,
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Does it seem a bit incomplete? again, if this regime still has
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Any vestige of power.
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>> you know, i think obviously the wish was that the regime
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Would fall. and i think killing the supreme leader and that
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Many of the top irgc and council assembly of experts,
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They thought that might do it. if it doesn't, it doesn't mean
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It was a failure. i think there are three likely outcomes. one
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Is the regime does not commit to anything. they don't make a
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Deal. they just continue on. and we put external conditions
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On them, as in, don't raise up and do that again or will
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Flatten the rest of your country. the second is some
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Sort of deal or accommodation with the regime regarding the
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Nuclear material and ballistic missiles and such, wherein we
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Have an ability to go in and check on that stuff, which
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Would be better. and then the best case scenario is somehow
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We can convince and help and create the conditions for the
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Iranian people to create a government that suits their
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Purposes and takes them out of the tyranny business.
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>> jim. great breakdown. do you think it is still a plausible
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Scenario for the iranian people to rise up? look, israel and
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The united states obviously have put the conditions in
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Place on the ground for the iranian people to rise up and
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Take their freedom. is that still on the table? and number
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Two, look, we've heard rumblings over the past week
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About the kurds possibly getting involved on the ground
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Against the regime. do we know anything else about that?
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>> yeah, i think there are a couple of things worth
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Mentioning. the iranian opposition. you have both the
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Diaspora and you have those inside the country. the ones
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Inside the country have been heavily oppressed, you know, in
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Prison, slaughtered, you know, tortured, things like that. but
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They've begun to rise up. there was a meeting in london about
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Ten days ago now of what's known as the iran freedom
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Congress, which was a group of 30 members of opposition groups
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From all sectors of the of the country, different ethnic
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Groups, union leaders, all kinds of folks, nobel prize
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Winners. and they actually announced this publicly for the
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First time after keeping their heads down. so they're in play.
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And i think that's very helpful because a lot of them are
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Inside the country. and then, as you mentioned, the kurds are
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Creating kind of a safe haven in their province where the
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Regime can't really roll tanks or anybody to go back against
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Them because anything they put on the road were going to be
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Highway of death, too, and they're going to be wiped out.
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So that's that's a positive development as well.
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>> we are nearly two weeks into operation epic fury, jim. it's
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A staggering military success thus far. every benchmark is
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Being hit and then some. but now big concern is i know
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You're very concerned about it. the strait of hormuz, that
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Strategic waterway that iran is making noise about shutting
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Down. where do we stand with that? and why is it so
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Important to reopen the strait of hormuz and make sure that it
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Remains open?
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>> it was never going to be a fair fight. it was it was fun
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For secretary of war heads at the point that out between our
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Military and their military, their military was a joke. it
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Was destroyed every time it popped its head up. all they
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Have was the missiles to go ahead and drone, try and shoot
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And kill innocent civilians. so that's done. but now the
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Asymmetric threats were always their strong suit. and that
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Includes everything from the drones and missiles, which are
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Still the ones they have left, but also terrorist attacks. and
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Then the the things they can do in the strait of hormuz where
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There's an amazing amount of not just oil, but other things
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That flow both directions in and out of their food to feed a
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Lot of the people who live in there and, you know, the gulf
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Arab states. so that's not something we can tolerate as
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Allowing them to mine that and to be, you know, sending
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Suicide boats to blow up oil tankers or other things. there
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Are plans for that. it was it was a known difficulty. it was
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Always going to be the most difficult piece, because it's
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Kind of a suicide pact for them too. if they do that now, all
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Their neighbors hate them. so it's being worked on, but it
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Has to be a a strong fix before the end of this.
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>> one good thing here is that most of iran's navy is now at
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The bottom of the sea. it's been sunk over the past 13 days
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Or so. that's a great development, jim. hey, about
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30s left. then we'll bring you right back after the break. at
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The end of the day, for the american people to know, why is
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This operation absolutely necessary? things could not go
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On the way they were with this regime in tehran, doing what it
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Has done for the past half century.
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>> no doubt. i mean, and president trump bent over
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Backwards and did everything he could to find a diplomatic
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Accommodation with the regime there, an apocalyptic death
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Cult. twelver shias believe they need an armageddon type
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Event to bring their mahdi back to rule the world. well, what's
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The most armageddon like event you could have is a nuclear
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Bomb. we could not tolerate that. president trump took care
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Of that for the american people and for the world.
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>> jim, so well said. and more with jim hansen after the break.
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What's happening right here on american soil? we'll break that
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Down next.
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Down next.
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Welcome back to stackelbeck. tonight we're
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Talking to our good friend jim hansen. folks. be sure to
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Follow jim on x and across social media. some of the best
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Analysis you will see anywhere. now, jim gave us a great
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Breakdown of the situation in iran and the middle east in the
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First segment. now i want to get a bit into what's happening
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In the homeland at the moment. zoran mamdani, the mayor of new
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York city, last night held an iftar dinner at city hall where
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There were muslim prayers, and one of the attendees, jim, held
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Up the one finger salute used by isis. how serious a threat
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Is it that mamdani and islamo communist is now the mayor of
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Our largest city and financial capital, and he seems to be
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Going all in on islamism?
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>> i hate to have a positive attitude about a horrible
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Development, but we needed to see this. yeah, there are too
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Many people hiding their heads in the sand about what's going
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On under our noses. he's not the only one. he's just the
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Boldest. and he managed to make it to the top of the heap, you
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Know, cream of the crop. all of a sudden, new york, new york is
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Now, you know, a middle eastern country. i thought the uk was
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The canary in the coal mine, but now we have it right here
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At home, and i hope people will take notice. now, you know, he
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Is something that should not be ignored. he represents a large
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Part of the revolutionary left who combine not just the
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Communist socialist aspect, but also the islamist.
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>> yeah, it's really an unholy alliance with the shared goal
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Of destroying judeo-christian western civilization from
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Within. speaking of which, jim, look, we had a pair of
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Islamists who pledged allegiance to isis in new york
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City over the weekend, throwing homemade bombs at a protest.
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And we saw jihadist in austin, texas, carry out an attack. a
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Little while ago. we saw synagogue attack earlier today
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In michigan. this continues to mount. how concerned are you
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For the threat level here in the united states right now?
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>> you know, we have always been blessed by both the
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Incompetence of our enemies and the the nature of our society.
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But we are just one giant soft target for anyone who has those
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Kind of ill intentions and is willing to risk their life to
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Do it. we can't defend ourselves in a way that can
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Stop those attacks. and now the rhetoric and the activities of
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Both the revolutionary left here in this country, they
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Started with the hamas mobs and the other things, but they have
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Riled up the crazies on their side, and you've got the entire
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Islamic world backing, you know, anybody who's going to attack
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The great satan. now, i think it is legitimately a concern
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For everybody. and maybe we should fund the department of
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Homeland security to get on that, jim.
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>> so well said. and that's the perfect segue to my next
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Question. you just said it, democrats, speaking of the left,
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Are basically halting funding to dhs right now, the
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Department of homeland security, at the same time that we have
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This homegrown jihad phenomenon that you just broke down, we
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Have iran, possibly, god forbid, threatening sleeper cell
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Attacks here in the west, in america during a time of war.
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And yet the department of homeland security is shut down.
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This is madness. tell us more about that, jim. the short
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Sightedness of this and why it could, god forbid, come back to
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Bite us.
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>> politics should be above keeping the american people
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Safe, but they're just not capable of it. and in this case,
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The democrats are just 100% willing to risk the lives of
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American citizens to prevent illegal migrants from being
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Deported. i mean, it's all about ice, and that's just an
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Obscenity. when you look at the things we do, the reasons we
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Have a government, the reason we have a department of
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Homeland security is to keep all of us safe, to keep our
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Families safe, to allow our way of life to continue. and
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They're willing to say no. not only did we like our open
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Borders and we like our gang members and our child molesters
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And rapists and murderers, we're willing to risk
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Everyone's lives because of that. it's shameful, and i hope
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It bites them politically in the upcoming midterm elections.
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>> it truly is. it's trump derangement syndrome in
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Overdrive. hey, speaking of president trump, jim, last
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Question. look what's happening in iran right now. the
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Operation in venezuela in january, the possible collapse
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Of cuba's communist regime, hopefully in the near future.
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President trump seems to me considering all that to be a
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Transformational historic figure. about a minute left.
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How do you see it?
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>> i don't think there's any way to see him as less, you
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Know, the things he did. the operation midnight hammer was
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Such a bold move. and when he put pete hegseth in charge of
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The secretary or the defense department and turned it into
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The war department, again, that wasn't just a change of signage.
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That was a change of mentality. he took a broken institution
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That had been woke, broke, and returned it to a warrior ethos,
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And now has shown what america can do when someone crosses the
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Line. so the the raid on midnight hammer the raid into
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Caracas to get maduro was stunningly complex and
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Perfectly executed. now you can look at the outcome so far in
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In the gulf with iran is not ideal and may never be ideal,
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But the military action has been crushing and just exactly
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What we need. so people now know that if you're a tyrant,
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You can't expect the united states to roll over on its back.
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If you start acting up. donald trump is a guy who keeps his
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Word and keeps america on top of the global heap.
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>> jim. great stuff as always, my friend. folks, be sure to
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Follow jim on x and across social media. jim hansen, we'll
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See you again soon. god bless. and coming up after the break,
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An update on the iranian people. will they rise up? find out
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After the break. stick around.
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After the break. stick around.
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Welcome back to stackelbeck. tonight the battle continues in
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Iran and the iranian people are eager to take back their
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Country. so what will happen when the dust settles from
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Operation epic fury? here to discuss more is lisa daftari,
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Foreign policy analyst and founder of foreign desk news.
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Lisa, always great to see you. hey, the iranian people, we
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Know they desire their freedom and the us and israel now are
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Putting the conditions in place for the iranian people to rise
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Up. you've got great sources on the ground, lisa. you're in
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Touch with them on a regular basis. what is the morale of
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The iranian people right now? is this operation continues.
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>> to describe it in a short phrase. i would say there's an
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Anxious optimism among the iranian people right now, and
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For good reason. we're watching as the mainstream media and so
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Many here in the western world ask, will they come out? do
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They want this war? what will happen? what happened to the
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Iranian people? why aren't we seeing them? and we forget so
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Quickly in a matter of 13 days that it was the iranian people
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Who so bravely came out onto the streets and were killed in
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The tens of thousands, 30 to 50,000 killed, if not more, in
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Wholesale fashion with military grade weapons. it was the
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Iranian people who were begging donald trump to keep his
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Promise and come to their rescue. and that's exactly how
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They see this military operation. they see it as a
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Rescue mission. yeah. and, you know, i'm seeing people with
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Videos that have been sent to me privately with bombs going
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Off in the background. you see smoke and fire, but they're
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Dancing and praising bibi netanyahu and praising donald
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Trump. and many in the west have a very hard time believing
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How a people could be happy about bombs falling over their
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Heads. but that is exactly the unsaid or said deal between
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Bibi netanyahu, trump and the iranian people right now. and
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In the first hours of this war, donald trump looked into the
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Camera and he spoke directly to the iranian people and said, we
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Will collapse this regime. and when we do, and we get you to
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That one yard line, we're going to pass the baton and it will
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Be up to you to reclaim your nation. so that is exactly what
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They are patiently waiting for, is for these military
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Operations to target the right parts of the regime from the
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Top down so they can, from the bottom up, remove this regime
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Once and for all.
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>> lisa, if the dust settles at the end of this operation and
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Somehow, god forbid, elements of this regime are still in
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Power, does that feel incomplete to you? even if
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Iran's military, its terror infrastructure is completely
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Demolished, which it certainly is happening right now, does it
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Feel incomplete if elements of this regime are still in power.
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>> if if elements of this regime are still in power, it
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Will feel incomplete and not a victory to donald trump, to
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Bibi netanyahu and to the iranian people. why? because if
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The strategic imperative of the united states and israel is
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That this regime cannot have lethal weapons like nuclear
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Weapons, like ballistic missiles, like the funding of
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Deadly proxies, the very existence of this regime is
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Equivalent with all of those things. the next day they will
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Be spinning the centrifuges, trying to collect every dollar
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To put back into their terror proxies, trying to build their
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Missile program once again. so the iranian people know it very
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Well. i know that donald trump and bibi netanyahu know this
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Very well, too. this is not an easy operation, but any
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Remnants of this regime will require another operation two,
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Three years down the line. and that's what we've seen, look,
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Between republican democrat administrations over the last
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Few decades. we've seen this vacillation, this goldilocks
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Policies between bomb iran, let iran get the bomb, and then
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Nothing was done. and donald trump saw an opportunity for
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The third option, and that is partnering with the iranian
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People to once and for all collapse this regime, and then
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To cause regime change on the ground, to bring about a
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Transitional change, to bring about free elections, and to
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Bring about what the iranian people have been telling us for
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Years. they want democracy, they want secularism, they want
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Separation of church and state. they want the ability to have
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Basic, basic freedoms and to live freely from this
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Tyrannical regime.
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>> yeah, lisa, we've only got about 45 seconds left, by the
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Way, make great point. president trump himself said,
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Look, we want to finish the job now. we don't want to return to
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Iran in 5 or 10 years. we want to finish it now. last question
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About 40s left. lisa, last question. do you see
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Potentially a new day in a new iran where an alliance with the
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Us and israel is possible, like we once had before 1979, about
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40s left?
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>> absolutely. and it is overdue. if we saw anything,
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The first trump administration, it was that the abraham accords
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Was the way forward for the region. and the iranian people.
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They are ripe for that. they are a people who are secular,
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Progressive, smart. they have so many gifts to give to the
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World. there are so many investments to be made in iran.
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Imagine a free iran, a gift to the iranian people, a gift to
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The region, and a gift to israel and the united states,
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Where they could be aligned with the people of iran. we
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Talked about the abraham accords. now imagine the cyrus
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Accords in a day where the people of iran, the people of
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Israel, could be aligned. and really, it would really be a
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New day for the middle east.
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>> we got to leave it there. lisa. absolutely great job. we
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Got to leave it there. great insights. lisa tarry, check her
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Out folks across social media. coming up, final thoughts on
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Freedom for iran. that's next. stick around.
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Freedom for iran. that's next. stick around.
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Welcome back to stackelbeck tonight folks. as
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We wrap up here, quick reminder, if you like this coverage of
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The middle east every day on my youtube channel, watchmen tv,
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That's m a n watchmen tv.com. we're bringing you breaking
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Coverage of events in the middle east from an
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Unapologetically biblical perspective. speaking of which,
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Galatians chapter five, verse one for me really summarizes
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Where the iranian people are right now. it says, for freedom,
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It is for freedom that christ has set us free. stand firm
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Then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of
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Slavery. two things here, folks. number one, the church in iran
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Is growing by leaps and bounds. the iranian people in the
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Underground church bravely worshiping jesus. and number
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Two, they want to throw off that yoke of slavery. yes,
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Slavery and oppression that they've suffered under for 47
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Years. they are the main victims of the jackboot of
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Tyranny of the iranian regime. so pray for the iranian people.
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Pray for the iranian church again to rise up and to seize
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Their freedom in this unique, historic moment we're living in
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Right now. god is on the throne, and he loves the people of iran.
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Hey, we're not done with our special middle east coverage.
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Coming up, more breaking coverage on the conflict in the
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Middle east. that's next.
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Welcome to a special report on the conflict in the middle east.
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I'm eric stakelbeck, and what began just 13 days ago as a
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Coordinated strike on iran by the united states. and israel
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Has now exploded into the most significant. and, folks, the
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Outcome of this war could reshape the balance of power
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Across the middle east and beyond. it all began, of course,
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On february 28th when under the code names operation epic fury
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And operation roaring lion, u.s. and israeli forces
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Launched a devastating decapitation strike in the
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Heart of tehran. the target the leadership of the iranian
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Regime. the result iran's supreme leader ayatollah ali
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Khamenei, eliminated, along with several of the regime's
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Most powerful military commanders, including the head
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Of the islamic revolutionary guard corps and iran's chief of
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Staff. now, from the outset, president trump has made the
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Mission very clear destroy iran's nuclear program,
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Dismantle its ballistic missile arsenal, and put an end to the
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Regime's ability to terrorize the region and the world
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Through its proxies like hezbollah. but the iranian
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Regime is not going quietly. tehran has launched hundreds of
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Missiles and drones at israel and at u.s. bases and civilian
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Targets across the region in places like bahrain, qatar,
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Kuwait and the united arab emirates. at the same time,
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Iran has moved to strangle the global economy by attempting to
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Close the strait of hormuz, that critical shipping lane
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Where 20% of the world's global energy supplies passes through
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Each day. this desperate play from iran is designed to drive
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Up oil and gas prices to intolerable levels. meanwhile,
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Iran's chief proxy, hezbollah, has now entered the war from
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Lebanon and is trading heavy blows with israel. but it
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Remains to be seen how much longer iran and its proxies can
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Withstand the relentless air campaign from the united states
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And israel. u.s. officials say more than 6000 targets inside
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Iran have been hit since the operation began, and more than
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60 iranian naval vessels have been destroyed. iran's missile
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And drone barrages have also decreased dramatically as the
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Us and israel destroyed the regime's launch capabilities.
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At the same time, iran's regime has installed a new supreme
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Leader, mojtaba khamenei, the son of the slain ayatollah.
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Meet the new boss, same as the old boss, meaning iran's regime
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Is signaling that it has no intention of backing down. but
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Could this war ultimately be the end of iran's radical
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Regime and usher in a new day for the iranian people? and the
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World will break it all down with expert analysis straight
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Ahead. and joining us now, i believe. joining us now is our
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Good friend joel rosenberg, host of the rosenberg report,
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Right here on tbn every thursday night, editor in chief
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Of all israel news. joel, great to see us. it's great to see
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You. what is your sense so far of this operation? we're about
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13 days in, obviously tremendous benchmarks achieved
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Against iran's regime, its military and terror
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Infrastructure. what's your sense of things as we progress
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In this war? well.
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>> eric, it's great to be with you. and i'm in washington this
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Week. in fact, tonight on the rosenberg report, i've got an
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Exclusive interview with israeli ambassador to the
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United states later, who is prime minister netanyahu's
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Point man here in washington, in the united states, to
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President trump and the and the team. and he walks us through
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The tremendous successes. i mean, it's just astonishing as
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As you've already noted, of course, in the first 40s of the
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War, as it began on february 28th on saturday, destroying
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The top 40 leaders entirely. but what they're seeing is just
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They're seeing a shattering of. in fact, israeli intelligence
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Believes that iran's military, particularly their missile and
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Drone systems, are just being shattered as the united states
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And israel are working in this unprecedented close operation.
00:30:05.136 --> 00:30:09.708
Now, they. i do ask ambassador leiter what israeli
00:30:09.708 --> 00:30:15.013
Intelligence tells us about moshav harmony, because that is
00:30:15.013 --> 00:30:18.984
A concern, right? there are huge successes. there's no
00:30:18.984 --> 00:30:21.853
Question the number of missiles being fired by iran going down
00:30:21.853 --> 00:30:26.191
Dramatically, like 80% or more. the same thing with drones. but
00:30:26.191 --> 00:30:30.562
The the emergence of mojtaba khamenei really is a concern.
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And it and it signals what prime minister netanyahu said
00:30:34.866 --> 00:30:37.335
In his press conference today, his first since operation epic
00:30:37.335 --> 00:30:41.339
Fury and operation roaring lion began. netanyahu said it's not
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Clear yet that this regime can be brought down with air power,
00:30:46.044 --> 00:30:51.449
With naval power. so that is and the idea that mojtaba
00:30:51.449 --> 00:30:55.020
Khamenei, we haven't seen him. right? we haven't seen we
00:30:55.020 --> 00:30:58.957
Believe that he's injured. some have said he's in a coma, but
00:30:58.957 --> 00:31:02.360
He put out a statement today. so is that really from him? we
00:31:02.360 --> 00:31:06.164
Don't know. we know he was elected the new supreme leader.
00:31:06.164 --> 00:31:09.100
We know he's the 56 year old son of the late assassinated
00:31:09.100 --> 00:31:14.806
Former supreme leader ali khamenei. we don't know if he's
00:31:14.806 --> 00:31:18.076
Actually alive or how well he is, but israeli intelligence
00:31:18.076 --> 00:31:21.980
Confirmed to me through the ambassador that he is
00:31:21.980 --> 00:31:25.216
Considered potentially more apocalyptically minded and end
00:31:25.216 --> 00:31:30.989
Times minded than even his father, which is saying
00:31:30.989 --> 00:31:33.892
Something.
00:31:33.892 --> 00:31:35.060
>> wow, that certainly is. and joel, look, it's unclear right
00:31:35.160 --> 00:31:36.995
Now who is even calling the shots in iran as they continue
00:31:36.995 --> 00:31:40.031
To fire ballistic missiles haphazardly across the region
00:31:40.031 --> 00:31:43.601
Against their arab and muslim neighbors, of course, targeting
00:31:43.601 --> 00:31:46.538
Israel still with cluster warheads, which are
00:31:46.538 --> 00:31:50.108
Intentionally designed to harm civilians. small bombs break
00:31:50.108 --> 00:31:53.812
Off from these cluster warheads, shrapnel raining on civilians
00:31:53.812 --> 00:31:57.315
Below. but that's what this regime is all about. this is
00:31:57.315 --> 00:31:59.951
What they do. pure evil, but unclear who's calling the shots.
00:31:59.951 --> 00:32:03.421
Is it your sense that if this regime survives, this
00:32:03.421 --> 00:32:07.759
Engagement, survives operation epic fury, that it is
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:11.730
Incomplete somehow? that, look, it's obviously made a huge dent
00:32:11.730 --> 00:32:15.800
In iran's military and terror capabilities. but if elements
00:32:15.800 --> 00:32:19.604
Of this regime are still in place, that seems to me to be a
00:32:19.604 --> 00:32:23.575
Bit incomplete. at the end of the day, as we all pray for the
00:32:23.575 --> 00:32:26.711
Iranian people to rise up and take control.
00:32:26.711 --> 00:32:30.815
>> well, as as tbn viewers will see tonight on the rosenberg
00:32:30.815 --> 00:32:34.352
Report, ambassador leiter, the israeli ambassador to the us,
00:32:34.352 --> 00:32:39.391
Makes it very clear that the main objective that israel has
00:32:39.391 --> 00:32:43.428
Is to make sure that whatever regime survives or emerges out
00:32:43.428 --> 00:32:48.466
Of the wreckage won't have the offensive military capabilities
00:32:48.466 --> 00:32:54.172
That the previous supreme leader, ali khamenei, had.
00:32:54.172 --> 00:32:56.841
Right. i mean, and that's why it's so critical that the us
00:32:56.841 --> 00:33:00.245
And israel, i think, are staying very focused at the
00:33:00.245 --> 00:33:02.781
Moment on destroying all those missiles, all those missile
00:33:02.781 --> 00:33:05.683
Launchers, all the drones, all the drone launchers, but also
00:33:05.683 --> 00:33:08.586
The factories that produce the missiles and the drones. this
00:33:08.586 --> 00:33:12.190
Is the highest priority. and keeping the strait of hormuz
00:33:12.190 --> 00:33:16.461
Open, keep oil shipping and get those oil prices and gas prices
00:33:16.461 --> 00:33:20.398
Down too soon. that's what israel and the united states is
00:33:20.398 --> 00:33:24.369
Staying sort of laser focused on. but there's no question, as
00:33:24.369 --> 00:33:29.140
You talked about with lisa in the previous segment, previous
00:33:29.140 --> 00:33:31.976
Hour, i think it's going to be a huge problem for president
00:33:31.976 --> 00:33:35.613
Trump and prime minister netanyahu if they're not able
00:33:35.613 --> 00:33:38.249
To break the back and truly shatter this regime. now, who's
00:33:38.249 --> 00:33:43.121
Whether or not, you know, the former crown prince, reza
00:33:43.121 --> 00:33:46.357
Pahlavi, a tremendous moderate who wants to make peace with
00:33:46.357 --> 00:33:49.093
Israel? and that i interviewed for the rosenberg report a
00:33:49.093 --> 00:33:51.262
Couple of years ago. we're going to replay that, that
00:33:51.262 --> 00:33:54.065
Interview soon, because it's interesting whether he emerges
00:33:54.065 --> 00:33:56.601
Or some other moderate emerges that is important, but less
00:33:56.601 --> 00:34:01.473
Less important than making sure that the wicked family and
00:34:01.473 --> 00:34:05.810
Inner circle of ali khamenei, we can't let them stay in power.
00:34:05.810 --> 00:34:10.882
Right? i, i it's true that the united states and israel will
00:34:10.882 --> 00:34:14.319
Have accomplished its purposes if it can destroy iran's
00:34:14.319 --> 00:34:19.157
Ability to launch terror and tyranny against the united
00:34:19.157 --> 00:34:22.727
States and our interests and our civilians and our allies
00:34:22.727 --> 00:34:25.430
Like israel and the moderate arab states. but i will not be
00:34:25.430 --> 00:34:28.366
Satisfied. i don't think any american or israeli will, or
00:34:28.366 --> 00:34:31.736
Arab leader or citizen would be satisfied if this regime isn't
00:34:31.736 --> 00:34:36.140
Brought down. and that is a very high stakes. i'm not sure,
00:34:36.140 --> 00:34:40.712
Honestly, if you can bring the regime down just with air power
00:34:40.712 --> 00:34:45.083
And naval power, i hope so. i hope that the by shattering the
00:34:45.083 --> 00:34:49.320
System and taking out the top leaders, that people will rise
00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:52.590
Up unless it's not just about the people rising up. you'd
00:34:52.590 --> 00:34:55.760
Have to see, i think, a civil war. you'd have to see a
00:34:55.760 --> 00:34:58.796
Rebellion inside the ranks. could that happen? that's what
00:34:58.796 --> 00:35:01.432
We need to be praying for. because, you know, if you kill
00:35:01.432 --> 00:35:04.569
The top 5000, the top 10,000 worst leaders in iran, you've
00:35:04.569 --> 00:35:08.973
Got 50 or 100,000 more that are ready to take their place. so i
00:35:08.973 --> 00:35:13.444
Think we need to be praying as christians, not just for the
00:35:13.444 --> 00:35:16.781
Regime to be defanged, you know, emasculated, unable to project
00:35:16.781 --> 00:35:22.153
Terror and tyranny at united states, israel and our arab
00:35:22.153 --> 00:35:25.723
Allies. i think we really have to pray that this regime is
00:35:25.723 --> 00:35:28.960
Completely shattered and that it creates the conditions for
00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:32.897
This, for the iranian people to rise up and take over. yeah.
00:35:32.897 --> 00:35:37.268
>> joel, you mentioned the apocalyptic ideology of this
00:35:37.268 --> 00:35:39.537
Regime. we've got about 45 seconds left. so you can give
00:35:39.537 --> 00:35:43.041
Us the very short, abridged version of why this regime
00:35:43.041 --> 00:35:47.345
Hasn't given in yet. it's very much because of this end times
00:35:47.345 --> 00:35:50.582
Apocalyptic ideology that they hold about 40s.
00:35:50.582 --> 00:35:54.519
>> yeah. well, this is the biggest problem. and again,
00:35:54.519 --> 00:35:56.721
This is what israeli intelligence is saying. and
00:35:56.721 --> 00:35:58.923
U.s. intelligence is beginning to assess that. mojtaba
00:35:58.923 --> 00:36:01.759
Khamenei, if it's him. this is a man who believes he is what's
00:36:01.759 --> 00:36:04.996
Known as the khorasani, which is almost in shia islamic
00:36:04.996 --> 00:36:09.300
Apocalyptic islam. it's almost like the john the baptist in
00:36:09.300 --> 00:36:12.370
The gospels before the messiah. jesus comes, right? the horizon
00:36:12.370 --> 00:36:16.741
Is the one who sort of leads the the muslim forces into
00:36:16.741 --> 00:36:20.411
Battle and defeats israel, defeats jerusalem, takes over,
00:36:20.411 --> 00:36:24.449
And then comes the 12th imam. that's what these guys believe.
00:36:24.449 --> 00:36:28.453
And they believe they need to destroy israel, the center of
00:36:28.453 --> 00:36:31.623
Judaism, the little satan in their view, and destroy the
00:36:31.623 --> 00:36:34.192
United states, the great satan, the center of christendom in
00:36:34.192 --> 00:36:37.095
Their view, and that will create the conditions of chaos
00:36:37.095 --> 00:36:40.331
And carnage into which this 12th imam figure emerges.
00:36:40.331 --> 00:36:44.535
That's what makes them so dangerous. that's why they're
00:36:44.535 --> 00:36:46.704
So hell bent on getting nuclear weapons and the long range and
00:36:46.704 --> 00:36:52.443
Intercontinental ballistic missiles to deliver them.
00:36:52.443 --> 00:36:54.612
That's why this regime must be defeated, not just defanged.
00:36:54.612 --> 00:36:58.216
>> joel. it sounds insane, but they really believe it. and
00:36:58.216 --> 00:37:00.818
They actually shape policy around it. very, very dangerous.
00:37:00.818 --> 00:37:04.389
Joel rosenberg always a pleasure, my friend, folks.
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Check him out after this show on the rosenberg report. god
00:37:06.557 --> 00:37:09.394
Bless joel. we'll see you again soon. joining us now from
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Israel is our good friend rabbi pesach wolicki, executive
00:37:12.664 --> 00:37:15.833
Director of israel 365 action pesach. always great to see you,
00:37:15.833 --> 00:37:19.671
My friend. and look, you're on the ground in israel. of course,
00:37:19.671 --> 00:37:22.707
You've got a foot in the states as well. you're here frequently.
00:37:22.707 --> 00:37:25.810
What is the sense on the ground in israel right now? are
00:37:25.810 --> 00:37:28.646
Israelis satisfied with what they're seeing? the operation?
00:37:28.646 --> 00:37:31.783
Israelis are calling it operation roaring lion. are
00:37:31.783 --> 00:37:34.652
Israelis happy with the results so far? and by the way, now
00:37:34.652 --> 00:37:37.722
That second front is very much open to the north as hezbollah
00:37:37.722 --> 00:37:40.792
Is hitting israel. and israel, of course, is hitting back and
00:37:40.792 --> 00:37:43.661
Hitting back hard.
00:37:43.661 --> 00:37:45.997
>> well, eric, if you go back to the days before this
00:37:45.997 --> 00:37:50.368
Operation began, you remember there was all this speculation.
00:37:50.368 --> 00:37:53.638
Is president trump looking for an off ramp? are the attacks
00:37:53.638 --> 00:37:56.574
Ever going to come? and remember, it was like, every
00:37:56.574 --> 00:37:59.077
Day is today going to be the day? is today going to be the
00:37:59.077 --> 00:38:02.213
Day? so there's a but we've also been living with this for
00:38:02.213 --> 00:38:05.817
47 years. and there's a strong sense. it's a very interesting
00:38:05.817 --> 00:38:09.087
Mix of emotions in israel. you know, one of my sons was called
00:38:09.087 --> 00:38:12.323
Up to reserve duty today. another one of them is near the
00:38:12.323 --> 00:38:15.793
Lebanese border. there's, you know, everyone is getting
00:38:15.793 --> 00:38:18.796
Mobilized in that same way. it is war time. there are air raid
00:38:18.796 --> 00:38:22.133
Sirens, schools are closed. young mothers are home with
00:38:22.133 --> 00:38:24.769
Their children who can't go to school. so there's a lot of
00:38:24.769 --> 00:38:28.773
Tension and stress in the air because it is war time. at the
00:38:28.773 --> 00:38:31.843
Same time, there's this strange mix of that, that set of
00:38:31.843 --> 00:38:36.748
Emotions with a sense of relief and even happiness, that we're
00:38:36.748 --> 00:38:40.418
Finally dealing with this threat. if you think back to
00:38:40.418 --> 00:38:43.621
The ring of fire that you covered so, you know, so
00:38:43.621 --> 00:38:47.959
Diligently over the years talking about the, you know,
00:38:47.959 --> 00:38:50.461
The intensity of that threat that was growing on israel's
00:38:50.461 --> 00:38:53.731
Borders, the fact that we're now, you know, seeing the light
00:38:53.731 --> 00:38:57.001
At the end of the tunnel with hezbollah and and that things
00:38:57.001 --> 00:39:00.538
Are going well, the alliance with the united states, with
00:39:00.538 --> 00:39:03.307
All of the speculation about whether there were cracks in
00:39:03.307 --> 00:39:05.476
That relationship, a lot of that seemed to be either
00:39:05.476 --> 00:39:08.546
Misdirection plays or or, you know, wishful thinking by
00:39:08.546 --> 00:39:12.817
Anti-israel podcasters. but in the end, you know, there's been
00:39:12.817 --> 00:39:15.953
A stunning rebuke to all those who questioned the, you know,
00:39:15.953 --> 00:39:18.723
The closeness of that relationship and what we've
00:39:18.723 --> 00:39:21.826
Seen. so there's a sense of relief and happiness, a strange
00:39:21.826 --> 00:39:26.130
Kind of happiness, because there are bombs flying and
00:39:26.130 --> 00:39:28.666
People's lives are being disrupted. but there's really a
00:39:28.666 --> 00:39:31.903
Sense of optimism and, and resolve that we're finally
00:39:31.903 --> 00:39:35.573
Doing what we need to be doing.
00:39:35.573 --> 00:39:37.308
>> yeah. unprecedented is the word. look, israel and the
00:39:37.308 --> 00:39:39.811
United states operating side by side in this operation pesach.
00:39:39.811 --> 00:39:42.880
It's really amazing to see. and as you said, a blow to, i call
00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:46.751
Them the tucker carlson wing of these podcasters who are very,
00:39:46.751 --> 00:39:50.588
Very anti-israel. but that obviously is not going so well
00:39:50.588 --> 00:39:54.892
For them as president trump and bibi, in my view, really two
00:39:54.892 --> 00:39:58.930
Modern day churchills working side by side at this historic
00:39:58.930 --> 00:40:03.568
Moment. hey, in terms of the end of this, and when things
00:40:03.568 --> 00:40:07.171
Wind down, it may be a few days, it may be a few weeks. we don't
00:40:07.171 --> 00:40:10.942
Quite know yet. but when the dust settles pesach, where do
00:40:10.942 --> 00:40:13.845
You think israel will be number one? just geopolitically,
00:40:13.845 --> 00:40:17.281
Israel seems to me to be to be the sole superpower in the
00:40:17.281 --> 00:40:20.084
Middle east, without a doubt. and what about prophetically?
00:40:20.084 --> 00:40:23.688
Biblically? what does this mean for the nation of israel's
00:40:23.688 --> 00:40:26.290
Destiny?
00:40:26.290 --> 00:40:28.793
>> well, you know, let's start with the with the more mundane,
00:40:28.793 --> 00:40:31.796
With the political aspect that you just raised about israel
00:40:31.796 --> 00:40:34.465
Rising to be a superpower. and this is something this has
00:40:34.465 --> 00:40:37.401
Happened, you know, since october 7th, we're so focused
00:40:37.401 --> 00:40:40.304
On the headlines and the next battle and the next detail of
00:40:40.304 --> 00:40:43.241
What happened. and amidst all of this, israel has, like you
00:40:43.241 --> 00:40:47.879
Say, emerged as a regional superpower. its enemies have
00:40:47.879 --> 00:40:51.415
Been defeated for the most part, or weakened greatly. israel has
00:40:51.415 --> 00:40:55.419
Achieved air dominance across the middle east, forged
00:40:55.419 --> 00:40:59.023
Alliances to the west with greece and cyprus to the east
00:40:59.023 --> 00:41:03.661
With the united arab emirates and india, and and recognizing
00:41:03.661 --> 00:41:07.665
Somaliland and really building its own power base in the
00:41:07.665 --> 00:41:10.534
Region. and. yeah. and along with that, israel has sold more
00:41:10.534 --> 00:41:17.141
Than $10 billion of air defenses to various countries
00:41:17.141 --> 00:41:20.378
In the last four months alone. so there's really a sense of,
00:41:20.378 --> 00:41:23.414
You know, of growth in israel amidst this whole war and
00:41:23.414 --> 00:41:28.586
Crisis. the israeli stock market is off the charts. yeah.
00:41:28.586 --> 00:41:31.289
Israel has really emerged as a superpower. and, you know, to
00:41:31.289 --> 00:41:35.293
Anyone who believes in, in, in the bible, the most repeated
00:41:35.293 --> 00:41:38.596
Prophecy in the bible, eric, is that of the return of the
00:41:38.596 --> 00:41:41.732
Nation of israel to the land of israel after a lengthy exile.
00:41:41.732 --> 00:41:44.735
In the words of deuteronomy, the first time that prophecy is
00:41:44.735 --> 00:41:48.306
Spoken clearly to become more numerous and more prosperous in
00:41:48.306 --> 00:41:51.976
The land than ever before, after being scattered to the
00:41:51.976 --> 00:41:55.146
Ends of the heavens till the end of days. and the people of
00:41:55.146 --> 00:41:58.716
Israel are are living that out. you know, i feel really bad for
00:41:58.716 --> 00:42:02.320
Those. and some of those are in wings of the christian world
00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:05.323
Who still believe that the jewish people lost their
00:42:05.323 --> 00:42:07.758
Covenant. and then there's those, of course, who don't
00:42:07.758 --> 00:42:09.860
Believe in the bible at all. but there's many out there who
00:42:09.860 --> 00:42:13.164
They don't want to believe that what's right in front of their
00:42:13.164 --> 00:42:16.133
Eyes, which is the fulfillment of the most impossible prophecy
00:42:16.133 --> 00:42:18.970
And the most repeated prophecy in the bible, that of the
00:42:18.970 --> 00:42:22.573
Survival of the nation of israel and our rebirth in our
00:42:22.573 --> 00:42:24.842
Land after a lengthy exile. they don't want it to be true,
00:42:24.842 --> 00:42:28.045
So they lash out. i think the rise in anti-semitism and the
00:42:28.045 --> 00:42:31.449
Rise in in suddenly where replacement theology is part of
00:42:31.449 --> 00:42:35.886
Our political discourse, this is all this is all
00:42:35.886 --> 00:42:40.558
Understandable because that that whole way of thinking is
00:42:40.558 --> 00:42:45.196
Crumbling, because the nation of israel has returned to the
00:42:45.196 --> 00:42:48.466
World stage as a powerful nation, fighting the good fight,
00:42:48.466 --> 00:42:52.103
Defeating evil. and, you know, so, you know, when the the
00:42:52.103 --> 00:42:57.074
Prophetic and biblical has merged with the geopolitical in
00:42:57.074 --> 00:42:59.910
A way that we've never seen before. eric. and we should be
00:42:59.910 --> 00:43:03.147
Every day we should be praying into the words of the scripture.
00:43:03.147 --> 00:43:07.752
I think every christian and jew should be adding psalm 83 to
00:43:07.752 --> 00:43:12.223
Our daily prayers. it is a psalm about war and about how
00:43:12.223 --> 00:43:15.459
The purpose of war is to bring glory to god in the end of days.
00:43:15.459 --> 00:43:19.363
And. and that is the words. you know, the original prayer book
00:43:19.363 --> 00:43:23.034
Is the book of psalms, and the book of psalms has a prayer for
00:43:23.034 --> 00:43:26.570
Every occasion. and there's a prayer for an occasion such as
00:43:26.570 --> 00:43:29.507
This. and that's psalm 83. i encourage everyone to pray it.
00:43:29.507 --> 00:43:31.742
But yeah, eric, we're living in amazing times. i feel on the
00:43:31.742 --> 00:43:35.012
One hand, like i said at the beginning, i'm, i'm worried
00:43:35.012 --> 00:43:37.715
About my kids, worried about the family running to the bomb
00:43:37.715 --> 00:43:40.618
Shelters. there's a lot of stress. at the same time,
00:43:40.618 --> 00:43:42.787
There's a sense of jubilation and inspiration that god is on
00:43:42.787 --> 00:43:47.091
The move and that we're living in biblical times.
00:43:47.091 --> 00:43:49.193
>> yeah. no doubt. and number one, my friend, we are praying
00:43:49.193 --> 00:43:52.196
For your family, your kids who are in serving your country
00:43:52.196 --> 00:43:55.099
Right now. number two, i should have mentioned this at the top.
00:43:55.099 --> 00:43:58.069
It's the middle of the night in israel. thank you, my friend,
00:43:58.069 --> 00:44:01.072
For staying up so late and joining us. hey, only about a
00:44:01.072 --> 00:44:04.075
Minute left miracles. we're seeing them. the rebirth of
00:44:04.075 --> 00:44:06.143
Israel in 1948 was a modern day miracle, but we've seen since
00:44:06.143 --> 00:44:10.147
October 7th a lot of miracles right in israel, and we've seen
00:44:10.147 --> 00:44:13.417
God moving tangibly about a minute left pesach last word.
00:44:13.417 --> 00:44:18.055
>> well, a miracle is where god breaks the rules for his
00:44:18.055 --> 00:44:21.692
Purposes. and the entire history of the nation of israel
00:44:21.692 --> 00:44:24.728
Is god breaking the rules for his purposes. and you know,
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Eric, over and over again in the bible, especially in the
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Book of ezekiel, he says that if you keep your eye on what's
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Happening with israel and the redemption, and you see that
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And you're willing to see it, and they shall know that i am
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The lord. this is how we know god. the jewish people are just
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A pawn in god's plan. our purpose is, is to be used by
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God to reveal himself to the world. and if we just have eyes
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To see, we'll see that we're living in those times that
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Everyone who read the bible for thousands of years dreamed
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About. we are living in that time. eric.
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>> yeah, it's an exciting time, my friend. pesach, we're
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Following you on israel. 365 hopefully i'll see you on this
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Side of the pond soon and in israel next month. god willing,
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Pesach will be always. great to see you, my friend. god bless.
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Keep up the great work. from a biblical perspective with
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Geopolitics. we love that pesach. take care. praying for
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Your family my friend. get some sleep. take care. god bless you.
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>> god bless. eric.
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>> yes, absolutely. now the strategic strait of hormuz,
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Folks, some 20% of the world's oil supplies go through that
00:45:22.486 --> 00:45:26.190
Waterway off the coast of iran every single day. and guess
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What? the regime in the last gasp is trying to shut down the
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Strait of hormuz. what does that mean for the world and in
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Particular for america? joining us now is our good friend, ceo
00:45:36.567 --> 00:45:39.436
Of martin capital and the rod martin report. rod martin rod,
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Always great to see you. hey, is this becoming in your in
00:45:42.606 --> 00:45:45.809
Your view? of course my friend. is this becoming somewhat of an
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Energy war as iran threatens the strait of hormuz, number
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One. number two, israel struck iranian or i should say islamic
00:45:52.349 --> 00:45:56.720
Revolutionary guards corps refineries on saturday. will
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Energy, oil and gas prices take more of a role as this conflict
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Continues.
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>> the iranians would clearly like to make it an energy war.
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I don't think they're going to be very successful with that.
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We have seen a couple of bounces up into, you know,
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Three digit territory on the price of oil. but, you know,
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The truth of the matter is the iranian navy is at the bottom
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Of the sea. and what's left to them are seaborne drones, which
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Are not insignificant. ukrainians have used them to
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Great effect against the russian navy, no question about
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That. and the remnant of their missile capacity that we are
00:46:34.858 --> 00:46:40.231
Eradicating at breakneck speed. so their ability to hit
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Anything in the strait is pretty limited. before you
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Factor in the us navy stepping in and actually escorting oil
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Tankers. so i really don't think they're going to be able
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To get very far with this. second, the saudis have made
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Clear that they intend to activate their pipeline that
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Ships oil away from the ross turner report down to the red
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Sea. that gets them completely out of iranian range. and that
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Would be 70% of saudi production. that's a lot less
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Than the total gulf production. but it's a big deal. and
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Finally, once this war is over, once we have successfully
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Concluded this and we will the truth of the matter is we're
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Going to see a tremendous amount of iranian oil come
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Online to the global market in much the same way we're seeing
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The beginnings of that with venezuela. and ultimately, the
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Price of oil is going to drop dramatically below where it has
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Been. there's always been this risk premium because the
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Iranians hold the strait of hormuz hostage. donald trump is
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Not going to let them do that ever again.
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>> yeah. and history lesson here for everyone, rod. back in
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1987, the iranians were threatening to close the strait
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Of hormuz. and president reagan sunk, i think, about half of
00:47:59.510 --> 00:48:02.680
Their navy at that time. now, president trump has finished
00:48:02.680 --> 00:48:05.249
The job and sunk essentially their entire navy over 60 naval
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Vessels. hey, we talk about venezuela and the iranian
00:48:09.887 --> 00:48:13.090
Regime weakened, obviously, these two major oil exporters
00:48:13.090 --> 00:48:16.694
To nations like communist china. big picture rod. and you're so
00:48:16.694 --> 00:48:21.165
Good at this. okay. the iranian regime, god willing, will be
00:48:21.165 --> 00:48:24.668
Toppled soon. but at the end of the day, this has to strike a
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Blow as well. this operation at iran's allies like communist
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China, russia, north korea. what about china in particular,
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Rod? how does this hurt them?
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>> well, what this war, like the 12 day war last year, like
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The venezuela intervention earlier this year. what this
00:48:43.420 --> 00:48:47.991
Shows is that china is nobody's ally. china is utterly
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Undependable. they absolutely will not come to your aid, no
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Matter how many bold promises they make. and everybody should
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Have taken that lesson when they announced this alliance
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Without limits with putin the week before he invaded ukraine.
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And then have the chinese sent a single soldier to ukraine? no,
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They have not have the chinese given arms to the russians to
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Prosecute their war. oh, goodness. no, everything that
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Gets sold to russia is at top dollar, and everything china
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Buys from russia is at a steep, steep discount. they are
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Draining the russian treasury dry. they are utterly predatory.
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They are neocolonial. and the truth is, the whole world is
00:49:33.937 --> 00:49:37.708
Beginning to see it. the other dimension of that, of course,
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Is that it was chinese and russian air defense systems
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That were supposedly going to defend iran and venezuela, and
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In both cases, they utterly failed. their stuff is junk.
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And what that does to the russian and chinese arms export
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Industries is really, really draconian. over time, probably
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One of the reasons we just saw the indians flip to the united
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States side for the first time in 80 years and start
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Interdicting russian oil tankers. they'd previously been
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Buying oil from folks.
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>> this is why rod de martin is a must follow on x. head over
00:50:15.846 --> 00:50:19.249
There right now and follow him. president trump and you laid
00:50:19.249 --> 00:50:22.619
Out all the chess pieces. rod, just now. president trump is
00:50:22.619 --> 00:50:25.589
Not doing this kind of haphazardly. it seems to me he
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Has a strategy here and a vision. talk more about that.
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He is an historic figure, without a doubt. i believe he's
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The most consequential leader of the 21st century. i think
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It's pretty clear on the world stage with what he's
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Accomplished, i think, in this term alone. but add that with
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His first term, talk a bit more about his grand vision and
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Strategy here, the trump doctrine.
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>> well, that's clearly true so far. i mean, who knows? you
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Know what amazing figures we may have in the 2080s, but so
00:50:52.583 --> 00:50:56.920
Far, donald trump takes the cake. and in fact, i would say
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He's one of the three most consequential presidents of the
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Last century, reagan and franklin roosevelt being the
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Other two. and what trump is doing is very, very reaganesque.
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This gets kind of missed because of his his interesting
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Communication style, which he explains in his books. he
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Explained on the apprentice, he is trying to constantly keep
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All of his opponents off balance, make himself look
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Unpredictable, you know, constantly keep them in chaos
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So that he can get to the optimal deal. well, what is the
00:51:31.922 --> 00:51:35.425
Optimal deal? well, the biggest geopolitical threat to the
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United states, no matter how many times barack obama wants
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To pretend that it's russia, is actually china, a country with
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A billion, 1.4 billion people, a country with a serious,
00:51:47.704 --> 00:51:53.477
Serious nuclear weapons capacity and an enormous
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Economy. russia has an economy the size of florida, for
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Goodness sake. they are not going to take over the world
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And they can't even march on kyiv. so how are they going to
00:52:06.056 --> 00:52:09.393
Get to berlin? china is the threat, and every single thing
00:52:09.393 --> 00:52:14.298
Donald trump has done, from venezuela to cuba to iran,
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Interdicting the shadow fleet tankers, trying to bring about
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A peace between russia and ukraine, everything that he did
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In the middle east to get us to a proper conclusion of the war
00:52:25.042 --> 00:52:28.378
With gaza. all of these things point back to china. it's about
00:52:28.378 --> 00:52:33.383
Stripping china of its allies, no matter how how much they
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Thought they were real allies. the chinese clearly didn't
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Strip them of their allies, stripped them of their source
00:52:42.025 --> 00:52:44.962
Of supply, of all of this incredible amount of steeply
00:52:44.962 --> 00:52:49.967
Discounted oil. they're buying about half of their oil for
00:52:49.967 --> 00:52:53.236
About one third of market price, which is a huge prop to their
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Over subsidized communist economy. and if if ronald
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Reagan channeled through donald trump can contain china, you
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Ultimately get the same result you did in the cold war, where
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Russia outspent out, armed and out, competed, eventually
00:53:13.657 --> 00:53:19.896
Imploded under the weight of its own socialist
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Presuppositions. that was the end of the soviet union. that
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Will be the end of the maoist chinese communist regime.
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>> just like in ronald reagan's day. peace through strength
00:53:30.240 --> 00:53:33.110
Under donald trump works. folks, if you're just joining us, this
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Is a tbn special report conflict in the middle east.
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We're talking to our good friend rod de martin. rod reza
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Pahlavi has been talked about as a potential successor to
00:53:42.919 --> 00:53:46.456
This wicked regime in tehran right now. what do you see as
00:53:46.456 --> 00:53:49.693
The prospects for iran post, god willing, post regime?
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>> i'm actually very bullish on it. i've spent the last couple
00:53:55.565 --> 00:53:58.769
Of weeks posting videos of iranians in iran cheering for
00:53:58.769 --> 00:54:04.141
Us airstrikes and cheering for netanyahu, which is just
00:54:04.141 --> 00:54:09.479
Glorious to see. you know, these guys, these guys don't
00:54:09.479 --> 00:54:11.982
Want to be the source of every regional conflict. they want to
00:54:11.982 --> 00:54:16.753
Be a first world country. they want to be a democracy. they
00:54:16.753 --> 00:54:20.691
Want to be free, and they want to be friends of the free
00:54:20.691 --> 00:54:23.894
Countries in the world, which is what they were before the 79
00:54:23.894 --> 00:54:27.864
Revolution. now, can they rise up and take out the regime? yes,
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I think they can. and what happened today was actually
00:54:31.835 --> 00:54:35.806
Quite stunning in that regard. we're getting reports now of
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Targeted drone strikes by by the us and israel against
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Against local police and military forces in the streets
00:54:45.515 --> 00:54:51.621
In tehran, actually taking out individual traffic stops and
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Individual secret police officers. these guys are the
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People who are keeping the iranian population down.
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They're the people who are killing 36,000 unarmed
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Protesters in two days back in january. these are the guys who
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Are the tip of the spear for the mullahs. and if you can
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Take them out by remote control, as donald trump is now doing,
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The people can rise. they absolutely can. as to reza
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Pahlavi, i think he's the guy. he's the only name being
00:55:24.821 --> 00:55:28.759
Chanted in the streets of iran except bibi netanyahu and the
00:55:28.759 --> 00:55:33.029
Guy they call uncle, by which they mean donald trump. he's he
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Is the leader of these people. and i am very happy with that.
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I you know, nobody knows what the future will be. who knows?
00:55:43.874 --> 00:55:47.210
Maybe he's an evil maoist or something terrible, but i don't
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Think so. he's been in the united states his entire adult
00:55:51.047 --> 00:55:53.950
Life. his kids grew up here. they're all educated here. and
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This is a guy who has spent the last 40 years promising us that
00:55:57.921 --> 00:56:02.058
He's going to be the next juan carlos, the first of spain, who
00:56:02.058 --> 00:56:06.630
Transitioned spain after the fall of dictator franco into a
00:56:06.630 --> 00:56:10.534
Democracy.
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>> rod. great breakdown. we shall see, my friend. history
00:56:11.768 --> 00:56:13.804
Unfolding before our very eyes and rod, you've got a front row
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Seat for it. we appreciate your analysis, my friend. god bless.
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We'll see you again soon. joining us now, another great
00:56:19.176 --> 00:56:22.479
Analyst of geopolitics in the middle east, our good friend
00:56:22.479 --> 00:56:25.515
Josh hammer, host of the josh hammer show. josh, you wrote a
00:56:25.515 --> 00:56:28.518
Great book last year about israel and civilization. can
00:56:28.518 --> 00:56:32.455
You break down a bit more how taking down the world's number
00:56:32.455 --> 00:56:37.127
One state sponsor of terrorism is a victory not just for
00:56:37.127 --> 00:56:40.797
Israel, not just for the united states and the iranian people,
00:56:40.797 --> 00:56:43.934
But a victory for the free world, for judeo-christian
00:56:43.934 --> 00:56:47.904
Western civilization as a whole.
00:56:47.904 --> 00:56:50.841
>> well, first of all, eric, always great to chat with you.
00:56:50.841 --> 00:56:53.844
Look, this particular regime in iran, this revolutionary
00:56:53.844 --> 00:56:56.646
Islamist shiite theocracy that came to power in the revolution,
00:56:56.646 --> 00:56:59.883
1979 when they deposed the shah. let's not forget that their
00:56:59.883 --> 00:57:04.120
Very first action, the revolutionaries, literally
00:57:04.120 --> 00:57:06.723
Their very first action on the ground in tehran was to storm
00:57:06.723 --> 00:57:10.727
The us embassy and to commence a 440 day hostage crisis, a
00:57:10.727 --> 00:57:15.398
Hostage crisis that ultimately ended the presidency of jimmy
00:57:15.398 --> 00:57:18.001
Carter. those hostages were freed within minutes of ronald
00:57:18.001 --> 00:57:20.103
Reagan taking the oath of office in january of 1981. but
00:57:20.103 --> 00:57:23.640
Their very first acts were against the united states of
00:57:23.640 --> 00:57:26.877
America. and this regime has been at war with us, eric,
00:57:26.877 --> 00:57:29.613
Whether whether americans want to talk about whether americans
00:57:29.613 --> 00:57:31.915
Want to acknowledge it. and many folks, frankly, because we
00:57:31.915 --> 00:57:35.552
Live such such amazing lives here in america, we don't think
00:57:35.552 --> 00:57:38.922
About the fact that this horrific theocracy halfway
00:57:38.922 --> 00:57:40.957
Around the world has been in a state of war with us for 47
00:57:40.957 --> 00:57:44.060
Years. they've been killing americans at least as far back
00:57:44.060 --> 00:57:46.930
As the hostage crisis, at least as far back as the 1983
00:57:46.930 --> 00:57:50.200
Bombings of the us marine barracks in beirut, lebanon,
00:57:50.200 --> 00:57:52.502
That was orchestrated by by iran. they had their hezbollah
00:57:52.502 --> 00:57:56.072
Proxy murder, 241 us marines. it was a bombing of the us
00:57:56.072 --> 00:58:00.043
Embassy that exact same year, kazem soleimani, the former
00:58:00.043 --> 00:58:03.013
Head of the islamic revolutionary guard corps quds
00:58:03.013 --> 00:58:05.415
Force, was single handedly responsible for at least 5 to
00:58:05.415 --> 00:58:08.685
600 american soldiers, sailors and marines who were murdered
00:58:08.685 --> 00:58:12.188
By roadside ieds during the bush era war in iraq. and on
00:58:12.188 --> 00:58:15.825
And on we go. i mean, frankly, up to their their plot to
00:58:15.825 --> 00:58:19.029
Assassinate donald trump. the doj indicted a pakistani
00:58:19.029 --> 00:58:22.265
National. he actually was just convicted over the past week or
00:58:22.265 --> 00:58:24.968
So. there's a brand new conviction, actually, the iran
00:58:24.968 --> 00:58:27.404
Tried to have donald trump assassinated, among others, by
00:58:27.404 --> 00:58:29.472
The way, they tried to kill john bolton, mike pompeo,
00:58:29.472 --> 00:58:32.309
Various others as well. so this is a horrific, horrific cancer
00:58:32.309 --> 00:58:35.645
On the world stage. it is the fountainhead of of the world's
00:58:35.645 --> 00:58:39.282
Jihad. i'm not saying that there are not other guilty
00:58:39.282 --> 00:58:41.284
Actors here. recep tayyip erdogan turkey is highly
00:58:41.284 --> 00:58:43.920
Problematic. the the emirates of qatar has been highly
00:58:43.920 --> 00:58:46.890
Problematic when it comes to funding the muslim brotherhood,
00:58:46.890 --> 00:58:48.825
Al jazeera and so forth. but iran really is the head of the
00:58:48.825 --> 00:58:52.195
Snake there. and if this regime, god willing, actually does fall.
00:58:52.195 --> 00:58:55.465
And that's very much an open question, eric, as you and i
00:58:55.465 --> 00:58:58.401
Have discussed. but if the regime does fall, there'll be a
00:58:58.401 --> 00:59:00.637
Tremendous victory above all for the american national
00:59:00.637 --> 00:59:02.939
Interest. and it'll be a tremendous blow for the forces
00:59:02.939 --> 00:59:05.608
Of radical islamism. and the corollary of that, as, as you
00:59:05.608 --> 00:59:08.678
Correctly implied, would be a victory for judeo-christian
00:59:08.678 --> 00:59:10.880
Civilization.
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>> yeah. and you mentioned erdogan in turkey, josh, who
00:59:12.048 --> 00:59:13.616
Would love to fill that vacuum if and when the iranian regime
00:59:13.616 --> 00:59:16.619
And its axis collapse. hey, i talked to our last guest, rod
00:59:16.619 --> 00:59:19.622
Martin, about the transformational impact, the
00:59:19.622 --> 00:59:22.325
Historical impact of donald trump. what about bibi
00:59:22.325 --> 00:59:25.996
Netanyahu? i mean, look, since october 7th, in particular, the
00:59:25.996 --> 00:59:29.566
Fall of the iranian axis, these are calls, bold calls made by
00:59:29.566 --> 00:59:32.902
The prime minister of israel. josh can give us a sense about
00:59:32.902 --> 00:59:36.206
His place in history, not only in israel's history, but in
00:59:36.206 --> 00:59:39.075
World history. another transformational leader, in my
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View.
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>> no doubt about that. so bibi netanyahu's legacy, in my view,
00:59:43.246 --> 00:59:46.783
Eric, was it's been sealed for a while, but i would say it was
00:59:46.783 --> 00:59:51.187
It was really solidified, at least as far back as three
00:59:51.187 --> 00:59:53.423
Years prior to october 7th in 2020, with the signing of the
00:59:53.423 --> 00:59:56.459
Abraham accords. peace deals. when you have this big ceremony
00:59:56.459 --> 00:59:59.362
At the white house where the uae, bahrain, morocco, these
00:59:59.362 --> 01:00:01.564
Are the first treaties, the first acts of normalization
01:00:01.564 --> 01:00:04.801
Between israel and the muslim world since the jordan peace
01:00:04.801 --> 01:00:08.071
Accord in the 1990s, and the only two prior arab countries
01:00:08.071 --> 01:00:10.940
That have made peace with israel, jordan and egypt very,
01:00:10.940 --> 01:00:13.443
Very cold pieces. but these abraham accords peace deals,
01:00:13.443 --> 01:00:16.346
Especially with the uae and bahrain, morocco, frankly as
01:00:16.346 --> 01:00:19.215
Well, though, these have all been very warm peace. so to me,
01:00:19.215 --> 01:00:21.818
He really kind of solidified his transformational legacy
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There. look, october 7th, eric, as you and i know, is going to
01:00:25.021 --> 01:00:28.591
Be a sore subject for historians and biographers.
01:00:28.591 --> 01:00:31.761
That right? the story of bibi netanyahu's life, but the way
01:00:31.761 --> 01:00:34.998
That he has responded to that, i think, has only solidified
01:00:34.998 --> 01:00:37.934
His legacy even more because we have seen since october 7th is
01:00:37.934 --> 01:00:40.937
The systematic degradation and destruction of large swaths of
01:00:40.937 --> 01:00:46.576
Iran's reign of of fire, this ring of fire and terror that
01:00:46.576 --> 01:00:51.314
They that they built for decades, all with an attempt to
01:00:51.314 --> 01:00:54.084
Destroy what they refer to as the little satan, which is
01:00:54.084 --> 01:00:56.986
Israel above all, of course, we saw this tremendous, tremendous
01:00:56.986 --> 01:01:00.223
2024 campaign against hezbollah, ultimately culminating in the
01:01:00.223 --> 01:01:03.827
Killing of their leader, hassan nasrallah, cowardly hiding deep
01:01:03.827 --> 01:01:06.729
In a bunker in beirut, lebanon. so at this point, especially
01:01:06.729 --> 01:01:10.700
Given what we've seen thus far over this joint american
01:01:10.700 --> 01:01:13.169
Israeli operation in iran, there. israel had this one has
01:01:13.169 --> 01:01:16.039
Solidified itself as the sole military superpower in the
01:01:16.039 --> 01:01:20.043
Region. that was not always the case. eric, i this is before i
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Was born, but i can think back based on what i've read in
01:01:23.079 --> 01:01:26.182
History to 1967, 1973. israel was the underdog back then. if
01:01:26.182 --> 01:01:30.353
You were a betting man, you might have wagered that the
01:01:30.353 --> 01:01:32.655
Arab world would have wiped israel off the map back then.
01:01:32.655 --> 01:01:35.558
That's simply not the case today. israel is the
01:01:35.558 --> 01:01:37.627
Overwhelming military power in the region. turkey, you
01:01:37.627 --> 01:01:40.530
Correctly note, is the real threat to keep your eye on.
01:01:40.530 --> 01:01:43.066
It's very complicated because unfortunately, in my view,
01:01:43.066 --> 01:01:45.235
Turkey is actually a nato country. so there's article
01:01:45.235 --> 01:01:47.537
Five considerations there. it's frankly a bit of a mess. but
01:01:47.537 --> 01:01:50.573
With iran really neutralizing much, they've been israel is in
01:01:50.573 --> 01:01:54.210
Frankly, eric, probably the best military and diplomatic
01:01:54.210 --> 01:01:57.147
Shape they've ever been in. there was a huge blow to all
01:01:57.147 --> 01:01:59.983
The haters, both foreign and domestic.
01:01:59.983 --> 01:02:01.784
>> yeah. no doubt. josh, just a little over a minute left. have
01:02:01.784 --> 01:02:04.721
You ever seen the us israel relationship stronger than it
01:02:04.721 --> 01:02:07.524
Is right now? and hopefully we can maintain that strength
01:02:07.524 --> 01:02:10.426
Going on post donald trump 2028 and beyond. about a minute left.
01:02:10.426 --> 01:02:14.998
>> this is the apex, eric. this demonstration of these two
01:02:14.998 --> 01:02:19.102
Militaries working hand in glove in full synchronization
01:02:19.102 --> 01:02:21.971
There. this is exactly what you want out of an ally, isn't it?
01:02:21.971 --> 01:02:25.208
You want an ally that will go into battle with you, go into
01:02:25.208 --> 01:02:27.911
War, battle these mutual enemies there. it's a stark
01:02:27.911 --> 01:02:30.980
Contrast to what we see from the moochers in nato, the
01:02:30.980 --> 01:02:34.150
Moochers in the european union. they're israel, i think, has
01:02:34.150 --> 01:02:36.686
Proven itself. and it's a firm rebuke, eric, to all those who
01:02:36.686 --> 01:02:39.322
Have cast aspersions on this alliance all across the
01:02:39.322 --> 01:02:42.425
Political spectrum.
01:02:42.425 --> 01:02:43.626
>> yeah. josh, great breakdown as always, my friend. folks,
01:02:43.626 --> 01:02:45.428
Check him out on the josh hammer show. josh, keep up the
01:02:45.428 --> 01:02:48.431
Great work. god bless. we will see you again soon. and josh
01:02:48.431 --> 01:02:51.434
And i discussed the historic place of benjamin bibi
01:02:51.434 --> 01:02:55.104
Netanyahu, israel's prime minister. look, i believe,
01:02:55.104 --> 01:02:57.106
Folks, that he is israel's greatest prime minister since
01:02:57.106 --> 01:02:59.475
The nation was miraculously born in 1948. he's changed the
01:02:59.475 --> 01:03:03.279
Face of the middle east and in tandem with president trump.
01:03:03.279 --> 01:03:05.982
This has been a dynamic duo. so that's in a geopolitical sense.
01:03:05.982 --> 01:03:10.853
But rabbi jason sobel and i, of course, rabbi jason, host of
01:03:10.853 --> 01:03:14.791
Transformed by the messiah right here on tbn. we took it a
01:03:14.791 --> 01:03:18.728
Bit deeper in a recent conversation. we took it to the
01:03:18.728 --> 01:03:21.664
Bible. and does bibi netanyahu have a larger purpose, not only
01:03:21.664 --> 01:03:26.069
Geopolitically but biblically? check out my interview with
01:03:26.069 --> 01:03:30.073
Rabbi jason sobel. this is fascinating. take a look. rabbi
01:03:30.073 --> 01:03:34.978
Jason sobel, always great to see you, my friend. hey, you
01:03:34.978 --> 01:03:37.580
And i were talking off camera about israeli prime minister
01:03:37.580 --> 01:03:41.484
Benjamin netanyahu. now, jason, he is obviously an historic
01:03:41.484 --> 01:03:45.088
Figure, a transformational figure. but you say that
01:03:45.088 --> 01:03:48.324
Benjamin netanyahu, his meaning, his impact goes even deeper.
01:03:48.324 --> 01:03:52.929
And there's actually a biblical impact that he has as well.
01:03:52.929 --> 01:03:56.966
Tell us more about that.
01:03:56.966 --> 01:03:58.167
>> yeah. like him or don't like him, he's obviously a very
01:03:58.167 --> 01:04:03.506
Significant figure in our time. and one of the things we know
01:04:03.506 --> 01:04:07.210
From the bible is that names are destiny, that names are
01:04:07.210 --> 01:04:12.181
Meant to reveal the character or essence of a person. and it
01:04:12.181 --> 01:04:16.686
Is no coincidence that his name, his first name is benjamin. and
01:04:16.686 --> 01:04:24.394
The reason why that's important is because think about the
01:04:24.394 --> 01:04:28.665
Timing of when this latest war with with iran began. it began
01:04:28.665 --> 01:04:34.737
On the saturday before the biblical holiday of purim, the
01:04:34.737 --> 01:04:39.108
Book of esther. we talked about this last time i was on the
01:04:39.108 --> 01:04:43.046
Show and the significance of that day they were reading in
01:04:43.046 --> 01:04:46.849
The synagogue you will blot out the name of amalek from under
01:04:46.849 --> 01:04:50.219
Heaven. why does that matter? because the villain in the book
01:04:50.219 --> 01:04:54.691
Of esther, you know who it is? what's his name?
01:04:54.691 --> 01:04:57.293
>> his name is haman.
01:04:57.293 --> 01:04:58.494
>> haman? he's called heyman the agate or agagite. say that
01:04:58.494 --> 01:05:01.864
Ten times real quick. right. and why that is important?
01:05:01.864 --> 01:05:05.134
Because agag was a descendant of amalek, the first person to
01:05:05.134 --> 01:05:10.039
Attack the jewish people after they left egypt. and then later
01:05:10.039 --> 01:05:15.778
The amalekites were led by this king by the name of agag. and
01:05:15.778 --> 01:05:19.849
God commands saul to kill all the amalekites, i mean. and he
01:05:19.849 --> 01:05:24.787
Doesn't. he compromises. and why does that matter? it's out
01:05:24.787 --> 01:05:29.125
Of that lack of obedience that haman is born generations later,
01:05:29.125 --> 01:05:34.564
And he wants to commit genocide against the jewish people
01:05:34.564 --> 01:05:38.568
Because on the surface, it doesn't make sense. one guy
01:05:38.568 --> 01:05:40.870
Won't bow down, one jew. mordecai won't. he wants to
01:05:40.870 --> 01:05:43.039
Commit genocide. no, because he knows god. the god of mordecai
01:05:43.039 --> 01:05:46.743
Is always at war. according to the book of deuteronomy, with
01:05:46.743 --> 01:05:51.814
Amalek and his descendants, and they're commanded to wipe them
01:05:51.814 --> 01:05:54.951
Out. so he's like, i'm going to wipe israel out before they get
01:05:54.951 --> 01:05:58.421
A chance to wipe me out. yeah. and that's why he wants to
01:05:58.421 --> 01:06:01.991
Commit genocide. but the key to understanding the story is
01:06:01.991 --> 01:06:06.229
Understanding the ancestry of the characters in the story.
01:06:06.229 --> 01:06:09.799
Yeah. so again, king saul was from what tribe?
01:06:09.799 --> 01:06:13.369
>> tribe of benjamin.
01:06:13.369 --> 01:06:14.604
>> tribe of benjamin. and what tribe were mordecai and esther
01:06:14.604 --> 01:06:17.774
From?
01:06:17.774 --> 01:06:18.408
>> tribe of benjamin.
01:06:18.408 --> 01:06:19.642
>> tribe of benjamin. so god, in his graciousness, is giving
01:06:19.642 --> 01:06:23.413
Mordecai and esther an opportunity to get right and to
01:06:23.413 --> 01:06:28.117
Make a correction, a repair to redeem what their ancestors
01:06:28.117 --> 01:06:33.890
Failed to do.
01:06:33.890 --> 01:06:35.024
>> saul of the tribe of benjamin, he dropped the ball.
01:06:35.024 --> 01:06:37.660
He didn't do what god told him to do.
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>> he feared the people and he disobeyed. and guess what?
01:06:40.329 --> 01:06:43.232
Mordecai is a direct descendant of king saul in the lineage, a
01:06:43.232 --> 01:06:47.870
Direct descendant from kish. and so therefore, god, in his
01:06:47.870 --> 01:06:52.942
Graciousness, gives them a chance, a second chance. he has
01:06:52.942 --> 01:06:57.380
A saul moment. well, esther and mordecai go. well, esther, go
01:06:57.380 --> 01:07:01.951
Before the king and risk her life. or will she compromise
01:07:01.951 --> 01:07:04.720
Like her ancestors did? all of us have those moments. we have
01:07:04.720 --> 01:07:08.090
To make a decision. are we going to risk for god or are we
01:07:08.090 --> 01:07:11.160
Going to play it safe? if we don't, help will arise from
01:07:11.160 --> 01:07:14.263
Somewhere else. yeah, and we'll miss out.
01:07:14.263 --> 01:07:16.265
>> for such a time as this.
01:07:16.265 --> 01:07:20.002
>> which brings us to benjamin.
01:07:18.100 --> 01:07:21.804
>> netanyahu. right? so the the perp. so it always has been
01:07:21.804 --> 01:07:25.741
Appointed to the tribe of benjamin to wipe out amalek
01:07:25.741 --> 01:07:29.712
First, the king saul, who didn't do it, and then the
01:07:29.712 --> 01:07:32.982
Descendants of king saul from the tribe of benjamin did do it
01:07:32.982 --> 01:07:37.720
In terms of haman. well, iran is the modern day haman. yeah.
01:07:37.720 --> 01:07:42.358
And we hear in the name.
01:07:42.358 --> 01:07:44.160
>> in the same.
01:07:44.160 --> 01:07:45.261
>> geographical area, same persia in persia, the same
01:07:45.261 --> 01:07:48.064
Geographical area at the same time. we're reading the purim
01:07:48.064 --> 01:07:52.368
Story is happening. and people and jews, when they read the
01:07:52.368 --> 01:07:56.339
Name of the former supreme leader, read a khamenei, they
01:07:56.339 --> 01:08:00.710
Read haman in his actual name itself. okay. and so what does
01:08:00.710 --> 01:08:05.648
God do? the story of esther repeats itself. and what
01:08:05.648 --> 01:08:10.720
Happens? god raises up a benjamin, a modern day benjamin.
01:08:10.720 --> 01:08:16.058
Yeah, as the name benjamin. okay. and his last name
01:08:16.058 --> 01:08:20.796
Netanyahu, the lord has given to fight the modern day amalek,
01:08:20.796 --> 01:08:26.502
To fight the modern day haman. at the same time and in the
01:08:26.502 --> 01:08:30.907
Same geographical location. and it's a complete reversal of the
01:08:30.907 --> 01:08:35.211
Story.
01:08:35.211 --> 01:08:36.345
>> this is amazing. and also, jason, you mentioned me off
01:08:36.445 --> 01:08:38.447
Camera that rachel, when she was giving birth to benjamin,
01:08:38.447 --> 01:08:41.684
She named him benjamin for a reason. and that links to
01:08:41.684 --> 01:08:45.288
Benjamin netanyahu as well. right. unpack that for us a bit.
01:08:45.288 --> 01:08:47.924
>> yeah, absolutely. so benjamin is not his original
01:08:47.924 --> 01:08:50.726
Name. his original name was benoni, which means son of my
01:08:50.726 --> 01:08:54.630
Affliction, because she's dying as she gives birth to him,
01:08:54.630 --> 01:08:57.900
Jacob renames him benjamin benjamin, the son of my right
01:08:57.900 --> 01:09:02.204
Hand. and so benjamin is born in sorrow and in affliction.
01:09:02.204 --> 01:09:07.243
And it shaped his life. and benjamin netanyahu, the
01:09:07.243 --> 01:09:10.546
Defining event in his life was the sorrow, the loss of his
01:09:10.546 --> 01:09:14.083
Brother yonatan netanyahu on the raid of anti-b, which
01:09:14.083 --> 01:09:19.221
Shaped his view of how to deal with war and leadership. and so
01:09:19.221 --> 01:09:24.226
They're both connected with those sorrows in their origin
01:09:24.226 --> 01:09:28.197
Story.
01:09:28.197 --> 01:09:29.398
>> jason, this is incredible. and only you can unpack it like
01:09:29.498 --> 01:09:31.300
You do. i mean, these are deep, deep, prophetic biblical
01:09:31.300 --> 01:09:33.903
Insights i haven't heard anywhere else, my friend. and
01:09:33.903 --> 01:09:36.505
There's more. you were talking about divine reversals. can you
01:09:36.505 --> 01:09:41.844
Unpack that a bit more for us as well? and what we're seeing
01:09:41.844 --> 01:09:44.680
Now with the fall, god willing, of the iranian regime and how
01:09:44.680 --> 01:09:47.583
The chess pieces are moving right now in the middle east
01:09:47.583 --> 01:09:50.553
And really beyond.
01:09:50.553 --> 01:09:51.787
>> so think about it for think about it for a moment. what do
01:09:51.787 --> 01:09:54.590
We have going on in the situation? the whole book of
01:09:54.590 --> 01:09:58.027
Esther turns esther chapter nine, where it says, god in the
01:09:58.027 --> 01:10:02.665
Hebrew turned on its head or flipped on its head, or reverse
01:10:02.665 --> 01:10:06.669
The plans of the enemies of the jews, and it actually turned
01:10:06.669 --> 01:10:10.539
Against them. yeah. and so the decree of haman actually turned
01:10:10.539 --> 01:10:13.876
Against him and his enemies and the gallows that were meant to
01:10:13.876 --> 01:10:17.413
Hang mordecai on. he got hung on his own gallows. well, what
01:10:17.413 --> 01:10:22.485
Happens today? iran wants to build a nuclear bomb.
01:10:22.485 --> 01:10:26.856
Ultimately with the plans to possibly destroy israel one day.
01:10:26.856 --> 01:10:30.092
And instead of destroying a. instead of creating a bomb to
01:10:30.092 --> 01:10:33.162
Destroy israel, israel drops a bomb on them. the very thing
01:10:33.162 --> 01:10:36.866
That they wanted to do to kill the jewish people. the supreme
01:10:36.866 --> 01:10:39.869
Leader gets taken out by the same means.
01:10:39.869 --> 01:10:41.871
>> i mean, in the early hours of the war. on shabbat, how
01:10:41.871 --> 01:10:44.940
Many haman. he. the modern day haman taken out on shabbat in
01:10:44.940 --> 01:10:49.145
The first hours of the war. amazing.
01:10:49.145 --> 01:10:51.013
>> right before purim.
01:10:51.013 --> 01:10:52.415
>> yeah, but it's all just a coincidence. we're not. rabbi
01:10:52.415 --> 01:10:56.652
Jason, any more insights that you have? you've got such a
01:10:56.652 --> 01:10:59.755
Wealth of knowledge, and i love it because you're taking
01:10:59.755 --> 01:11:02.024
Current geopolitical events and you're tying them directly to
01:11:02.024 --> 01:11:04.293
The bible in god's word. anything else right now that's
01:11:04.293 --> 01:11:07.463
Standing out that you want to.
01:11:07.463 --> 01:11:09.165
>> yeah, there are so many things. so again, when you talk
01:11:09.165 --> 01:11:12.768
About reversals, think about it for a moment. this is really
01:11:12.768 --> 01:11:17.273
Significant. we talked about in our new book, transformed by
01:11:17.273 --> 01:11:20.009
The messiah. we get into the life of jesus. the last section
01:11:20.009 --> 01:11:23.446
Is on holy week on his triumphal entry, death and
01:11:23.446 --> 01:11:26.916
Resurrection. here's an amazing fact that most people don't
01:11:26.916 --> 01:11:29.085
Know heyman died, hung on the gallows, the 17th of nissan.
01:11:29.085 --> 01:11:36.625
Okay, and it is the same day jesus rose from the dead. wow.
01:11:36.625 --> 01:11:41.030
On the 17th day of nisan, it is the same day that god parted
01:11:41.030 --> 01:11:45.401
The red sea, and it's the same day he parted the jordan to
01:11:45.401 --> 01:11:49.205
Bring israel into the promised land. because it is a day of
01:11:49.205 --> 01:11:52.842
Divine reversals. in the same way, there was a tree that
01:11:52.842 --> 01:11:57.546
Heyman wanted to hang mordecai on, it got turned on his head,
01:11:57.546 --> 01:12:01.784
And it led to the salvation of the jewish people and
01:12:01.784 --> 01:12:04.754
Mordecai's exaltation to the second most powerful to the
01:12:04.754 --> 01:12:08.324
King at the right hand in persia. in the same way, yeshua
01:12:08.324 --> 01:12:13.129
Is put to death on a tree and he brings a complete reversal.
01:12:13.129 --> 01:12:17.266
Satan thought he was destroying him like haman thought he was
01:12:17.266 --> 01:12:19.869
Destroying the jewish people like iran thought they were
01:12:19.869 --> 01:12:21.971
Going to destroy israel. but he rises from the dead, reverses
01:12:21.971 --> 01:12:25.608
Death, foils the plans of satan, and like mordecai was exalted.
01:12:25.608 --> 01:12:30.679
Yeshua is exalted, not humiliated to the right hand of
01:12:30.679 --> 01:12:33.916
God the father. it's a day of reversals of what god is doing.
01:12:33.916 --> 01:12:40.022
But of course there's more. if you want to know how it
01:12:40.022 --> 01:12:42.958
Connects to the end times.
01:12:42.958 --> 01:12:44.093
>> please do. please enlighten us.
01:12:44.093 --> 01:12:46.061
>> so incredible verse. so in deuteronomy 33, moses blesses
01:12:46.061 --> 01:12:55.304
All the 12 tribes of israel. and the rabbis understand that
01:12:55.304 --> 01:12:59.141
In this blessing over the tribes of israel, it's really
01:12:59.141 --> 01:13:02.778
Ultimately talking about end time events, the ultimate
01:13:02.778 --> 01:13:07.016
History. and this is what we read the blessing on benjamin
01:13:07.016 --> 01:13:10.252
For benjamin, he said, the beloved of adonai rests
01:13:10.252 --> 01:13:13.923
Securely besides beside him and shield him all day long. so
01:13:13.923 --> 01:13:19.261
Benjamin was one of the greatest warrior tribes. he's
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Also described as a ravenous wolf. here it's describes him
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As dwelling securely beside him. and this is understood that
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Benjamin is connected to security and bringing security
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For the jewish people. that's what mordecai did. he gave them
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Security. and esther from benjamin. in the days of persia
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And iran, modern day benjamin doing the same. what's the goal
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To lead israel into security? it's associated with benjamin
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To lead israel deliverance from their enemies into a time of
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Dwelling securely. and i believe we're about to see the
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Greatest time of peace and prosperity in the middle east.
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The arab nations will join the abraham accords. oil will flow,
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New trade routes, many things. why? because the war of gog and
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Magog tells us israel has to be dwelling securely in the land.
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The same word in hebrew used of benjamin here is described in
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The war of gog and magog, before the war of gog and magog.
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So what's happening today is setting up the temporary
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Political peace and security that is ultimately going to set
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The stage for the eventual war of gog and magog. and it's all
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Tied to benjamin in the bible. and in this case, benjamin
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Netanyahu.
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>> benjamin netanyahu is at the center of all that historical
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Figure with biblical overtones, for sure, as you just unpacked
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And perhaps rabbi jason, we'll see. we've got the abraham
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Accords, of course, with the arab nations and israel, but
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Maybe a cyrus accord between iran and israel. that's the
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Prayer. hey, final thoughts? we've got about a minute left.
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Any final thoughts here as we watch this unfold, these game
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Changing events in the world's most chaotic, volatile and
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Strategic region, the middle east, america, israel at the
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Center of it, benjamin at the center of it. any final
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Thoughts about the era we could be heading into?
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>> i think most i think this is setting up the final events,
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But i think most importantly, it's this, as we talked about
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In transformed by the messiah, it's ultimately all about
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Yeshua and his coming to bring his kingdom. there's one more
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Connection. when jesus on the cross, there's a sign over his
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Head that says, jesus of nazareth, king of the jews. in
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Hebrew, the first letter of each one of those four words in
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Hebrew spells the divine name you'd have. the divine name is
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In the first letter of the sign hanging over his head on the
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Cross. why is that significant? his. the divine name yahweh was
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Hidden over the head of jesus, and god's name is hidden in the
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Book of esther. there's an acrostic in the book of esther
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Where esther invites mordecai. when esther invites haman and
01:16:02.691 --> 01:16:06.795
The king to the banquet, and the four letters, the four
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First letters of that verse in hebrew actually spell the
01:16:09.965 --> 01:16:13.502
Divine name and the rabbi see god's name hidden in the book
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Of esther, the same way the divine name is hidden on the
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Cross. what is it meant to teach us? god might seem hidden,
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But he is the one who is writing history. even when you
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Can't see the hand of god, trust the heart of god. he is
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Ultimately in control. yeshua won the victory. god knows what
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He's doing.
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>> amen. rabbi jason sobel well said. as always, my friend. i
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Mean great. every time i'm with you, i learn something new. my
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Friend, we love having you, rabbi jason. god bless you
01:16:40.963 --> 01:16:43.832
Folks. the book is called transformed by the messiah a
01:16:43.832 --> 01:16:46.201
Must read amazon.com, barnes and noble. wherever books are
01:16:46.201 --> 01:16:49.505
Sold, check out the show as well, right here on tbn.
01:16:49.505 --> 01:16:52.441
Transformed by the messiah. rabbi jason, thanks again. we
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Appreciate it. god bless.
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>> thank you.
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>> god bless.
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>> great folks. my only complaint about that interview
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Was that it was too short. rabbi jason sobel every time
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I'm with him, some new revelation. he is amazing. just
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A fascinating discussion there. and let's stay biblical. rabbi
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Jason, that's his specialty. and what we've done tonight is
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Blend geopolitics with the biblical in an unapologetic way.
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I'm thinking about the iranian people. that's been a theme
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Throughout tonight's show and their position right now, and
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What may lie ahead for them. some are saying, wow, why
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Haven't they risen up yet? well, by the way, they rose up in the
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Past two months in over 36,000 of them were slaughtered in
01:17:31.146 --> 01:17:35.184
Cold blood. but think of this 47 years, nearly half a century,
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The iranian people have been kept down, brutally repressed.
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I'm thinking of gideon and the ancient israelites when they
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Were oppressed by the midianites. now, the bible says
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That the people of israel and even gideon, that great
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Biblical hero, right? a sword for the lord and for gideon.
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Gideon was scared. he was hesitant. so were the people of
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Israel. they were literally hiding in caves. they were so
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Frightened of their midianite oppressors. but guess what?
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They received the courage, the boldness from god almighty.
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Eventually, gideon and the people of israel rose up and
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Threw off the shackles of the midianites. my prayer, folks,
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And your prayer, i hope, is as well, is that the people of
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Iran can do that. imagine 47 years of, say, you're a
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Christian, a follower of jesus in iran, of having to worship
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Hidden underground. you can't worship jesus publicly. you'll
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Be jailed or executed. that really happens in iran, not
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Just in iran, by the way. look, be very thankful that you live
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In the united states because iran, china, north korea, the
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List goes on. cuba, followers of jesus at record levels, epic
01:18:45.787 --> 01:18:51.160
Proportions in the wrong way are laying down their lives for
01:18:51.160 --> 01:18:55.164
Faith in jesus. but iran certainly is one of the
01:18:55.164 --> 01:18:58.700
Epicenters. and yet the world's fastest growing church. really
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Only god, right? no coincidences. when you think
01:19:03.372 --> 01:19:05.707
About this, it's a world's number one state sponsor of
01:19:05.707 --> 01:19:08.510
Terrorism. we know that very well. the iranian regime, the
01:19:08.510 --> 01:19:11.046
Fount, the head of the snake of all regional and global terror,
01:19:11.046 --> 01:19:13.949
As we've discussed in depth tonight, but somehow also home
01:19:13.949 --> 01:19:18.954
To the world's fastest growing church, now largely underground,
01:19:18.954 --> 01:19:23.258
As i mentioned, not in public, but it's growing and growing.
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Young iranians in particular, finding jesus. and they're
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Doing it amazing stories. they're doing it many times
01:19:31.133 --> 01:19:34.736
Through dreams and visions. we've heard here on tbn, report
01:19:34.736 --> 01:19:39.074
After report firsthand on the ground reports and accounts
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From former muslims in the middle east in places like iran,
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Iraq, yemen, syria, who jesus visited in a dream. in a vision,
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I get a bit jealous. i want one of those dreams, one of those
01:19:51.987 --> 01:19:55.357
Visions. but that's how god many times is communicating
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With our muslim friends in the middle east. it's amazing to
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See these great salvation stories occurring in the middle
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East. yes, the middle east, the most volatile region in the
01:20:04.866 --> 01:20:07.469
World right now. because number one, you cannot stop. the
01:20:07.469 --> 01:20:12.140
Gospel of history has taught us anything. it is that. and
01:20:12.140 --> 01:20:16.111
Number two, god is not silent. he is moving even when it seems
01:20:16.111 --> 01:20:20.549
Like everything is spiraling out of control. he is in
01:20:20.549 --> 01:20:24.419
Control and he is moving. he's doing it right now. closing
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Thought here. pray for the people of iran. and can we put
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Up tel aviv right now in israel, which has been just barraged?
01:20:31.193 --> 01:20:34.296
If we have an image, there it is. it's been barraged by
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Rockets and missiles on a nightly basis. pray for god's
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Divine iron dome over that city and over the land of israel,
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Over our u.s. soldiers, of course, keep it all in prayer
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Because guess what? it really works. it's been great having
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You with us tonight. until next time. god bless you and we'll
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See you again soon.
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Special Report: Conflict in the Middle East Mashup | Stakelbeck Tonight

March 12, 2026 | 80:59

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