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Wintley Phipps: Amazing Grace | Gaither Gospel Hour

June 16, 2025 | 59:0

Wintley Phipps: Amazing Grace | Gaither Gospel Hour
Homecoming Friends join Bill and Gloria in this nostalgia-filled video journey.
#Singer/Songwriter #Music #Musician #Praise #Worship #PersonalStory #Faith #Inspirational

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Gaither Gospel Hour | Wintley Phipps: Amazing Grace | Gaither Gospel Hour | June 16, 2025
  • ... of who we are.
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  • (choir singing) ♪precious memories♪
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  • ♪how they linger♪
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  • ♪how they ever flood my soul♪
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  • Bill gaither: an unforgettable memory was made when dozens of friends...
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  • ... who had spent their lives in gospel music...
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  • ... gathered to sings some songs from their own...
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  • ... personal treasure of memories.
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  • For these folks, many precious memories...
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  • ... had begun around a piano somewhere.
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  • They're sharing songs about how their lives have been changed...
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  • ... by god's amazing grace.
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  • ♪precious scenes unfold♪
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  • - ♪ whoa, yes, there's power, ♪
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  • ♪ power, lord... ♪
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  • Bill: wintley phipps has a voice
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  • That you will never forget,
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  • And for decades now, he has used
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  • That deep, resonant voice to comfort,
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  • Inspire, educate, and infuse this world with eternal hope.
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  • - ♪ then sings my soul... ♪
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  • Bill: from dignitaries to superstars,
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  • He has served as a guide and encourager
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  • To many of the world's most influential people.
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  • - ♪ he's got everybody here... ♪
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  • Bill: in the history of gospel music,
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  • He is one in a million.
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  • You are about to experience a never-before-seen glimpse
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  • Into the heart and soul of wintley phipps...
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  • - ♪ amen. glory hallelujah. ♪
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  • Bill: featuring a rare collection of classic hymns,
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  • Spirituals, gospel classics,
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  • And personal stories from his life.
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  • - in every story, god gets the glory.
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  • ♪ whoa, yes, there's power... ♪
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  • Bill: may his story and songs serve as a fresh reminder
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  • Of the unlimited possibilities in store for anyone
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  • Who is willing to fully embrace their divine destiny.
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  • Gaither music is pleased to present
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  • "whitley phipps: amazing grace."
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  • [bright music]
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  • - ♪ would you be free from your passion and pride? ♪
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  • ♪ there's power in the blood, ♪
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  • ♪ power in the blood. ♪
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  • ♪ come for a cleansing to calvary's tide. ♪
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  • ♪ there's wonderful power in the blood. ♪
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  • ♪ yes, there's power, power, lord, ♪
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  • ♪ wonder-working power ♪
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  • ♪ in the blood, in the blood of the lamb. ♪
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  • ♪ whoa, yes, there's power, power, lord, ♪
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  • ♪ wonder-working power ♪
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  • ♪ in the precious blood of the lamb. ♪
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  • ♪ would you do service for jesus, your king? ♪
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  • ♪ there's power in the blood, ♪
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  • ♪ power in the blood. ♪
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  • ♪ would you live daily, his praises to sing? ♪
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  • ♪ there's wonderful power in the blood. ♪
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  • ♪ yes, there's power, power, lord, ♪
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  • ♪ wonder-working power ♪
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  • ♪ in the blood, in the blood of the lamb. ♪
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  • ♪ whoa, yes, there's power, power, lord, ♪
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  • ♪ wonder-working power ♪
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  • ♪ in the precious blood of the lamb. ♪
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  • ♪ yes, there's power, power, lord, ♪
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  • ♪ wonder-working power ♪
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  • ♪ in the blood, in the blood of the lamb. ♪
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  • ♪ whoa, yes, there's power, power, lord, ♪
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  • ♪ wonder-working power ♪
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  • ♪ in the precious blood of the lamb. ♪
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  • ♪ in the precious blood of the lamb. ♪
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  • ♪ in the precious blood ♪
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  • ♪ of the lamb. ♪
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  • ♪ yes, there's wonderful-working power, ♪
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  • ♪ power, lord. ♪
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  • ♪ yes, there's wonderful-working power, ♪
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  • ♪ power, lord. ♪
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  • ♪ yes, there's wonderful-working ♪
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  • ♪ power. ♪
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  • [cheers and applause]
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  • - wintley, it's a joy to have you here in our little town.
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  • I often say to folks,
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  • If you come to alexandria, indiana,
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  • You have come on purpose.
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  • [laughter]
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  • - yeah.
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  • - but it's good to have you here.
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  • - good to be with you, my friend.
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  • - you've been here before, haven't you?
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  • - oh, yes, yes, i've recorded here,
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  • And i just love being with you, bill.
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  • It's a joy.
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  • - how far does our relationship go back, maybe 20, 30--
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  • - oh, yeah. - 30 years?
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  • - from back in the days of indiana--
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  • Indianapolis, i'm sorry-- where we did the big--
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  • - the praise gatherings.
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  • - the praise gatherings in indianapolis.
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  • It goes back a long time.
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  • - yeah.
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  • You know, you are part of a special fraternity...
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  • - mm.
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  • - of a young man who obviously loved music,
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  • For all of us who grew up in music,
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  • Got our attention... - yeah.
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  • - and in some cases, even got our attention
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  • As far as the message of jesus is concerned.
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  • - yes.
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  • - we so love the art form and the music,
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  • And we said, hey, wait, what are they singing about,
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  • You know? - right, right.
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  • - they're singing about jesus. - yes.
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  • - but you are part of this fraternity
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  • That may have started out in music,
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  • But you wanted to pursue something else.
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  • - sure.
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  • - and anybody who's been around you, wintley,
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  • Knows that you love life, you love education,
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  • You love learning, you love teaching,
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  • And it didn't take you long to say,
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  • I can do a certain thing through music...
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  • - right. - but i can do a lot more,
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  • On a given occasion, with the spoken word.
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  • - absolutely. - is that true?
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  • - absolutely correct.
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  • I'm gonna take you back just a little bit.
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  • When i was about 14 1/2 years old,
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  • My voice changed.
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  • [laughter]
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  • I woke up one morning with this sound coming out of my throat.
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  • ♪ and they sung as it were a new song ♪
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  • ♪ before the throne, ♪
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  • ♪ before the throne. ♪
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  • It messed up my father, if you can imagine
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  • Your 14-year-old kid saying,
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  • Hey, dad, how you doing, you know?
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  • - yeah.
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  • - now, this is in the '60s, so...
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  • - yeah.
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  • - i wanted to be another sly stone.
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  • You probably have no idea who that is.
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  • - oh, yes. - [laughs]
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  • - it was sly stone and--
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  • - sly and the family stone.
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  • - sly and the family stone. - right.
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  • But i met sly, and he was stoned,
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  • And i said, no, something's wrong with this picture.
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  • My hero is incoherent, you know?
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  • - [laughs]
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  • - that's not where i want to end up.
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  • And i found another musical hero at the time,
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  • 'cause i didn't have any voice teachers,
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  • But, bill, i found my voice teacher on the radio.
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  • So i'm 15 years old, with this voice,
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  • And i'm listening, close the door, get a pencil,
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  • And i'm practicing sounding like this voice
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  • Coming over the radio.
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  • So for my 34th wedding anniversary,
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  • I said to my wife, my voice teacher on the radio,
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  • I wonder if he's still in concert.
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  • So i googled, and lo and behold,
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  • He was in concert, so i bought plane tickets
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  • And concert tickets.
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  • Something told me, send him a message.
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  • So i sent him an email.
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  • I said, sir, when i was 15, my voice changed.
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  • I didn't have any voice teachers,
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  • But you became my voice teacher on the radio.
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  • That's how i learned to sing.
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  • You have been my musical inspiration,
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  • My musical north star.
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  • And then i said, i want to tell you
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  • All i've gone on to do with that inspiration,
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  • And i shared with him how, at the time,
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  • I'd sung for six presidents of the united states
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  • And i was the only soloist
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  • At diana ross' wedding in switzerland
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  • And the last one to sing "amazing grace"
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  • For mother teresa before she died, you know?
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  • I said, i may not get to see you,
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  • But i want to thank you.
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  • I got an email back from him saying,
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  • Sir tom jones would like to see you and your wife
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  • When you come to las vegas.
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  • - so the guy was tom jones.
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  • - so that's how i learned to sing.
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  • So when i walked into the greenroom,
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  • His eyes went really big, 'cause i said...
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  • ♪ it's not unusual to be loved by anyone. ♪
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  • [laughter]
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  • And so that was my first foray
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  • Into using this voice.
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  • And of course, i heard other voices,
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  • Like paul robeson,
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  • And, you know, great bass, baritone singers,
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  • William warfield, who sang...
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  • ♪ ol' man river. ♪
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  • You know, i said, wow,
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  • That's what you can do with this, you know?
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  • And then i went to a christian school
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  • For my last year of high school in oshawa, canada.
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  • That's where i grew up. i grew up in montreal, canada.
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  • And that's outside of toronto.
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  • - ok, ok, yeah.
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  • - and i didn't like it at first,
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  • 'cause they had too many rules and regulations
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  • For me, you know?
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  • All the lights got turned out at a certain hour.
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  • You couldn't hold hands with the girls on campus,
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  • And, you know, stuff like that, and i went to the dean of men,
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  • And i said, i can't take all these rules.
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  • I said, i'm leaving.
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  • He said, is that what you really want to do?
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  • I said, yeah.
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  • He said, why don't you do, for once,
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  • Not what you want to do but what god wants you to do?
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  • And that's when i went up to my room.
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  • For the first time in my life, i prayed--
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  • That i remember praying,
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  • And i said, god, whatever you want me to do, i'll do.
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  • I said, if you want me to be a garbageman,
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  • For you, i'm willing to be a garbageman.
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  • If the only music i'll know is whistling hymns
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  • On the back of a garbage truck, that's fine.
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  • And then i said, god, you know i'd like to travel
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  • And use my talents for you.
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  • If that's your will for me, open the doors.
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  • Let me see in some way.
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  • A day went by.
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  • A couple of men came up to me and said,
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  • Are you wintley phipps?
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  • I said, yeah.
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  • Said, we've been hearing about you.
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  • We want you to travel and do singing evangelism with us.
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  • They said, we're from a group called the heritage singers
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  • And the heritage family, and i said, wow!
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  • - they sang a bunch of gaither songs, didn't they?
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  • - oh, yes, they did.
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  • - what was his name, max-- - max mace.
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  • Yeah, max mace. - what a good man.
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  • - and then--so i tell people,
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  • When you get your first prayer answered,
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  • It scars you for life,
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  • Because it lets you know there is a god and he is real
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  • And he hears and answers prayer.
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  • And as i walk the campus of that school,
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  • Recognizing that there is a god,
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  • And i'm in deep conviction,
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  • I'm listening now,
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  • And, bill, i heard a voice that i now know is god
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  • Speak to my heart, saying, i've seen your dreams.
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  • Now give me your dreams,
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  • And i'll let you glimpse a little
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  • Of what i've been dreaming for you.
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  • [soft music]
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  • ♪ all to jesus ♪
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  • ♪ i surrender. ♪
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  • ♪ all to him ♪
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  • ♪ i freely give. ♪
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  • ♪ i will ever ♪
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  • ♪ love and trust him, ♪
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  • ♪ in his presence ♪
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  • ♪ daily live. ♪
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  • ♪ i surrender all. ♪
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  • ♪ i surrender all. ♪
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  • ♪ all to thee, ♪
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  • ♪ my blessed savior, ♪
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  • ♪ i surrender all. ♪
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  • ♪ ♪
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  • ♪ all to jesus ♪
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  • ♪ i surrender. ♪
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  • ♪ humbly at his feet ♪
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  • ♪ i bow. ♪
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  • ♪ worldly pleasures ♪
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  • ♪ now forsaken. ♪
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  • ♪ take me, jesus. ♪
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  • ♪ take me now. ♪
  • 00:13:58.260 --> 00:14:02.932
  • ♪ i surrender all. ♪
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  • ♪ i surrender all. ♪
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  • ♪ all to thee, ♪
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  • ♪ my blessed savior, ♪
  • 00:14:23.619 --> 00:14:29.725
  • ♪ i surrender all. ♪
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  • ♪ i surrender all. ♪
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  • ♪ ♪
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  • ♪ all to jesus ♪
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  • ♪ i surrender. ♪
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  • ♪ all to him ♪
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  • ♪ i freely give. ♪
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  • ♪ i will ever ♪
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  • ♪ love and trust him. ♪
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  • ♪ all to him ♪
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  • ♪ i freely give. ♪
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  • ♪ and i surrender all. ♪
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  • And that's a blessing.
  • 00:15:41.096 --> 00:15:42.931
  • But what i wanted to tell you, in answer to your question,
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  • Like you, i've reached the pinnacle
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  • Of so many experiences.
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  • I mean, when you're on television
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  • And you're doing two songs
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  • And abc, cbs, nbc, fox,
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  • Cnn, and everybody's covering you at the same time,
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  • It is an amazing opportunity-- or promise keepers,
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  • You know, and you got 60,000 men in front of you, you know.
  • 00:16:12.194 --> 00:16:16.632
  • So i've done "saturday night live."
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  • There's no one i could have wanted to meet,
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  • Bill, that i haven't met.
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  • No place in the world-- every continent of the world,
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  • Except antarctica, i've taken my family in ministry with me.
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  • All five of us have been to the great wall of china
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  • And africa and south america
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  • And papua new guinea
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  • And places, and it has been amazing.
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  • But here's what i want to tell you
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  • That i share with young artists.
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  • I tell them, all tho
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  • Wintley: i share with young artists.
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  • I tell them, all those amazing experiences,
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  • Those are moments of destiny,
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  • And i say, moments of destiny
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  • Are moments for which you were created,
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  • But they're not the reason for which you were created.
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  • The reason for which you were created
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  • Is to grow more every day,
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  • To resemble, reflect, and reveal
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  • The character of god in your life.
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  • [reverent music]
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  • ♪ and when i think of god, ♪
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  • ♪ his son not sparing, ♪
  • 00:17:25.667 --> 00:17:31.006
  • ♪ gave him to die, ♪
  • 00:17:31.006 --> 00:17:35.677
  • ♪ i scarce can take it in ♪
  • 00:17:35.677 --> 00:17:42.851
  • ♪ that on the cross, ♪
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  • ♪ my burden gladly bearing, ♪
  • 00:17:48.357 --> 00:17:54.863
  • ♪ he bled and died ♪
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  • ♪ to take away my sin. ♪
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  • ♪ ♪
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  • ♪ when christ shall come, ♪
  • 00:18:11.180 --> 00:18:15.751
  • ♪ with shout of acclamation, ♪
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  • ♪ to take me home, ♪
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  • ♪ what joy shall fill my heart. ♪
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  • ♪ and i shall bow ♪
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  • ♪ in humble adoration ♪
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  • ♪ and there proclaim, ♪
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  • ♪ my god, how great thou art. ♪
  • 00:18:43.445 --> 00:18:50.485
  • ♪ then sings my soul, ♪
  • 00:18:50.485 --> 00:18:56.491
  • ♪ my savior god, to thee, ♪
  • 00:18:56.491 --> 00:19:03.498
  • ♪ how great thou art, ♪
  • 00:19:03.498 --> 00:19:08.971
  • ♪ how great thou art. ♪
  • 00:19:08.971 --> 00:19:14.543
  • ♪ then sings my soul, ♪
  • 00:19:14.543 --> 00:19:19.615
  • ♪ my savior god, to thee, ♪
  • 00:19:19.615 --> 00:19:26.388
  • ♪ how great thou art, ♪
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  • ♪ how great ♪
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  • ♪ thou art. ♪
  • 00:19:35.030 --> 00:19:42.571
  • ♪ how great, how great, ♪
  • 00:19:42.571 --> 00:19:45.507
  • ♪ how great, how great ♪
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  • ♪ thou art. ♪
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  • [cheers and applause]
  • 00:20:01.323 --> 00:20:04.159
  • I've sung for democrats, independents, republicans.
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  • As a matter of fact, i'll tell you one funny thing.
  • 00:20:08.730 --> 00:20:10.866
  • One day, i had to sing at a big function in washington
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  • Where president clinton spoke.
  • 00:20:14.403 --> 00:20:16.672
  • You know, i've sung for president reagan,
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  • President bush, you know, seven of the last eight presidents.
  • 00:20:18.273 --> 00:20:22.511
  • So i'm singing at this function where president clinton spoke,
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  • And the same night, i had to rush across town
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  • And sing at this big republican function.
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  • And when i got there, i announced
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  • That i had just come from singing
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  • For the president of the united states,
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  • And there was this boo and rumbling
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  • That went through the audience.
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  • I said, wait a minute, wait a minute.
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  • I said, i always go where people really need the lord.
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  • - [laughs]
  • 00:20:42.998 --> 00:20:44.433
  • - and there was this polite applause, and then i said,
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  • And that's why i'm here, you know?
  • 00:20:47.703 --> 00:20:50.839
  • - so you have had a lot of opportunities
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  • To speak to believers, nonbelievers.
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  • - i've been blessed to reach
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  • Some of the most amazing people.
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  • One day, i was singing in baltimore, maryland,
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  • And i came down off the platform,
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  • And i felt a tap on my shoulder.
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  • Young lady said, excuse me, sir, i just heard you sing.
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  • I'm really discouraged.
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  • She was about to be fired, really.
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  • She was making $25,000 a year on her job.
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  • She said, i feel like i can talk to you.
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  • Do you have time to talk to me?
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  • I said, sure.
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  • So she came by our home.
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  • We talked and prayed together.
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  • And after praying with her, i said,
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  • You know, before you go,
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  • God has impressed me to tell you
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  • He's gonna bless you
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  • And give you an opportunity to speak to millions of people.
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  • She sat up, she said, you think god would do that for me?
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  • And it was oprah winfrey.
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  • And that's how we met all those years ago.
  • 00:21:52.768 --> 00:21:56.805
  • And god has had me ministering to people of all political,
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  • All stripes, because we all need the lord,
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  • And whatever we can do
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  • To help make our nation a nation of christians
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  • Is the most important thing we can do to help america.
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  • [upbeat music]
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  • ♪ ♪
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  • ♪ amen. ♪
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  • ♪ amen. ♪
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  • ♪ amen. ♪
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  • ♪ amen. ♪
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  • ♪ amen. ♪
  • 00:22:40.816 --> 00:22:43.685
  • ♪ uh-huh, a-- ♪
  • 00:22:43.685 --> 00:22:47.155
  • ♪ listen to my story. ♪
  • 00:22:47.155 --> 00:22:51.460
  • ♪ it's the story about my jesus. ♪
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  • ♪ amen. ♪
  • 00:22:55.030 --> 00:22:58.800
  • ♪ amen, a-- ♪
  • 00:22:58.800 --> 00:23:02.337
  • ♪ see the little baby, amen, ♪
  • 00:23:02.337 --> 00:23:07.309
  • ♪ wrapped up in a manger ♪
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  • ♪ on christmas morning. ♪
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  • ♪ amen. ♪
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  • ♪ amen, a-- ♪
  • 00:23:19.020 --> 00:23:22.557
  • ♪ see him by the seashore, ♪
  • 00:23:22.557 --> 00:23:27.796
  • ♪ talking to the fishermen, ♪
  • 00:23:27.796 --> 00:23:32.334
  • ♪ and he's making them disciples. ♪
  • 00:23:32.334 --> 00:23:35.770
  • ♪ amen. ♪
  • 00:23:35.770 --> 00:23:39.708
  • ♪ amen, a-- ♪
  • 00:23:39.708 --> 00:23:43.078
  • ♪ riding through jerusalem, amen, ♪
  • 00:23:43.078 --> 00:23:48.183
  • ♪ waving palm branches ♪
  • 00:23:48.183 --> 00:23:52.587
  • ♪ in all pomp and splendor. ♪
  • 00:23:52.587 --> 00:23:56.258
  • ♪ amen. ♪
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  • ♪ amen. ♪
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  • ♪ amen. ♪
  • 00:24:02.564 --> 00:24:06.301
  • ♪ see him in the garden, ♪
  • 00:24:06.301 --> 00:24:11.273
  • ♪ praying to his father ♪
  • 00:24:11.273 --> 00:24:16.077
  • ♪ in deepest sorrow. ♪
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  • ♪ amen. ♪
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  • ♪ amen, a-- ♪
  • 00:24:23.018 --> 00:24:26.755
  • ♪ led before pilate. ♪
  • 00:24:26.755 --> 00:24:31.693
  • ♪ then they crucified him. ♪
  • 00:24:31.693 --> 00:24:38.700
  • ♪ but he rose on easter. ♪
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  • ♪ amen. ♪
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  • ♪ amen. ♪
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  • ♪ amen. ♪
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  • ♪ amen. ♪
  • 00:24:48.376 --> 00:24:49.611
  • ♪ glory hallelujah. ♪
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  • ♪ amen. ♪
  • 00:24:52.681 --> 00:24:54.783
  • ♪ he died to save you. ♪
  • 00:24:54.783 --> 00:24:57.619
  • ♪ amen. ♪
  • 00:24:57.619 --> 00:24:59.621
  • ♪ and he lives forever. ♪
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  • ♪ amen. ♪
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  • ♪ amen. ♪
  • 00:25:06.661 --> 00:25:08.730
  • ♪ amen. ♪
  • 00:25:08.730 --> 00:25:10.265
  • ♪ glory hallelujah. ♪
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  • ♪ amen. ♪
  • 00:25:13.134 --> 00:25:15.303
  • ♪ he died to save you. ♪
  • 00:25:15.303 --> 00:25:17.806
  • ♪ amen. ♪
  • 00:25:17.806 --> 00:25:19.975
  • ♪ and he lives forever. ♪
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  • ♪ amen. ♪
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  • ♪ amen. ♪
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  • ♪ amen. ♪
  • 00:25:32.487 --> 00:25:49.571
  • [cheers and applause]
  • 00:25:42.530 --> 00:25:52.440
  • Wintley: and by the way, i'll tell you,
  • 00:25:53.508 --> 00:25:54.576
  • I have a little secret, personal dream
  • 00:25:54.576 --> 00:25:55.310
  • That i carry in my heart, bill,
  • 00:25:55.310 --> 00:25:57.412
  • That one day, i'll be in heaven--
  • 00:25:57.412 --> 00:25:59.147
  • I dream about it--
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  • Working on my mansion with my holy hammer, right,
  • 00:26:02.183 --> 00:26:05.587
  • Like if there'll be something broke
  • 00:26:05.587 --> 00:26:07.255
  • That needs to be fixed, right?
  • 00:26:07.255 --> 00:26:10.558
  • And i'll hear... [tapping]
  • 00:26:10.558 --> 00:26:12.327
  • A knock on the door,
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  • And when i open it,
  • 00:26:14.496 --> 00:26:16.097
  • Jesus will be standing there... - yeah.
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  • - clothed in light,
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  • Crown of glory on his head,
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  • And he'll say to me, my son,
  • 00:26:23.605 --> 00:26:26.207
  • I'm about to go to some parts of my universe
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  • Where they've never seen a child from earth
  • 00:26:29.978 --> 00:26:32.013
  • Who has been redeemed,
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  • And i want you to come go with me.
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  • Oh, and by the way, i want you to sing just before i speak.
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  • [laughter]
  • 00:26:41.890 --> 00:26:44.259
  • That's the dream i carry in my heart, bill.
  • 00:26:44.259 --> 00:26:48.463
  • And can you imagine the lord saying,
  • 00:26:48.463 --> 00:26:51.032
  • Ok, i want you to sing for the angels
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  • Or sing for this group.
  • 00:26:54.602 --> 00:26:56.771
  • What song would you sing?
  • 00:26:56.771 --> 00:26:59.374
  • And that's why some of those great--
  • 00:26:59.374 --> 00:27:01.810
  • - i hope it would be a gaither tune.
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  • [laughter]
  • 00:27:03.845 --> 00:27:07.115
  • That just flipped into my mind.
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  • [bright music]
  • 00:27:10.985 --> 00:27:13.722
  • - ♪ he's got the whole world in his hands. ♪
  • 00:27:13.722 --> 00:27:19.194
  • ♪ he's got the whole world in his hands. ♪
  • 00:27:19.194 --> 00:27:24.532
  • ♪ he's got the whole world in his hands. ♪
  • 00:27:24.532 --> 00:27:29.804
  • ♪ he's got the whole world in his hands. ♪
  • 00:27:29.804 --> 00:27:35.076
  • ♪ he's got the wind and the rain in his hands. ♪
  • 00:27:35.076 --> 00:27:40.582
  • ♪ he's got the wind and the rain in his hands. ♪
  • 00:27:40.582 --> 00:27:45.920
  • ♪ he's got the wind and the rain in his hands. ♪
  • 00:27:45.920 --> 00:27:51.126
  • ♪ he's got the whole world in his hands. ♪
  • 00:27:51.126 --> 00:27:56.464
  • ♪ he's got the little-bitty baby in his hands. ♪
  • 00:27:56.464 --> 00:28:01.903
  • ♪ he's got the little-bitty baby in his hands. ♪
  • 00:28:01.903 --> 00:28:07.275
  • ♪ he's got the little-bitty baby in his hands. ♪
  • 00:28:07.275 --> 00:28:12.580
  • ♪ he's got the whole world in his hands. ♪
  • 00:28:12.580 --> 00:28:17.619
  • ♪ he's got you and me, brother, in his hands. ♪
  • 00:28:17.619 --> 00:28:22.991
  • ♪ he's got you and me, sister, in his hands. ♪
  • 00:28:22.991 --> 00:28:28.563
  • ♪ he's got you and me, brother, in his hands. ♪
  • 00:28:28.563 --> 00:28:33.601
  • ♪ he's got the whole world in his hands. ♪
  • 00:28:33.601 --> 00:28:38.940
  • ♪ he's got everybody here in his hands. ♪
  • 00:28:38.940 --> 00:28:44.612
  • ♪ he's got everybody here in his hands. ♪
  • 00:28:44.612 --> 00:28:49.784
  • ♪ he's got everybody here in his hands. ♪
  • 00:28:49.784 --> 00:28:55.089
  • ♪ he's got the whole world in his ♪
  • 00:28:55.089 --> 00:29:00.962
  • ♪ hands. ♪
  • 00:29:00.962 --> 00:29:22.984
  • ♪ he's got the world in his hands. ♪
  • 00:29:11.005 --> 00:29:26.254
  • ♪ oh, happy day. ♪
  • 00:29:26.254 --> 00:29:36.798
  • [cheers and applause]
  • 00:29:36.798 --> 00:29:39.868
  • - you and i both have a wonderful connection
  • 00:29:39.868 --> 00:29:42.637
  • With the graham organization...
  • 00:29:42.637 --> 00:29:44.172
  • - yes.
  • 00:29:44.172 --> 00:29:46.207
  • - and the one that we did
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  • At the graham center there in montreat...
  • 00:29:48.743 --> 00:29:51.646
  • - right.
  • 00:29:51.646 --> 00:29:52.814
  • - in front of a beautiful fireplace...
  • 00:29:52.814 --> 00:29:54.415
  • - that's right.
  • 00:29:54.415 --> 00:29:55.516
  • - and we had a chance to pick from
  • 00:29:55.516 --> 00:29:58.753
  • The great literature that has come from the black history.
  • 00:29:58.753 --> 00:30:02.824
  • - yes.
  • 00:30:02.824 --> 00:30:05.059
  • - what a unique approach james weldon johnson did
  • 00:30:05.059 --> 00:30:09.030
  • On how the world was made.
  • 00:30:09.030 --> 00:30:10.732
  • - that's right. - yeah.
  • 00:30:10.732 --> 00:30:11.933
  • - and it's full of what,
  • 00:30:11.933 --> 00:30:14.836
  • In the black church, we call sermonic license.
  • 00:30:14.836 --> 00:30:18.640
  • [laughter]
  • 00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:20.275
  • You know, it's using your imagination
  • 00:30:20.275 --> 00:30:23.611
  • And your creativity
  • 00:30:23.611 --> 00:30:25.280
  • To imagine what it must have been like
  • 00:30:25.280 --> 00:30:27.248
  • When god scooped out of the earth
  • 00:30:27.248 --> 00:30:31.452
  • A lump of clay and breathe...
  • 00:30:31.452 --> 00:30:34.455
  • [exhales sharply] into his nostrils
  • 00:30:34.455 --> 00:30:36.457
  • The breath of life, and man became a living soul.
  • 00:30:36.457 --> 00:30:40.495
  • - i love it. i love it.
  • 00:30:40.495 --> 00:30:41.696
  • Listen to it.
  • 00:30:41.696 --> 00:30:42.931
  • - and god stepped out on space,
  • 00:30:46.134 --> 00:30:51.940
  • And he looked around and said, i'm lonely.
  • 00:30:51.940 --> 00:30:58.179
  • I'll make me a world.
  • 00:30:58.179 --> 00:31:01.349
  • And as far as the eye of god could see,
  • 00:31:01.349 --> 00:31:04.852
  • Darkness covered everything,
  • 00:31:04.852 --> 00:31:07.755
  • Blacker than 100 midnights
  • 00:31:07.755 --> 00:31:10.925
  • Down in a cypress swamp.
  • 00:31:10.925 --> 00:31:14.629
  • Then god smiled, and the light broke,
  • 00:31:14.629 --> 00:31:17.565
  • And the darkness rolled up on one side,
  • 00:31:17.565 --> 00:31:20.935
  • And the light stood shining on the other,
  • 00:31:20.935 --> 00:31:23.371
  • And god said, that's good.
  • 00:31:23.371 --> 00:31:27.875
  • Then god reached out and took the light in his hands,
  • 00:31:27.875 --> 00:31:30.979
  • And god rolled the light around in his hands
  • 00:31:30.979 --> 00:31:34.115
  • Until he made the sun,
  • 00:31:34.115 --> 00:31:36.517
  • And he set that sun a-blazing in the heavens,
  • 00:31:36.517 --> 00:31:40.254
  • And the light that was left from making the sun,
  • 00:31:40.254 --> 00:31:43.391
  • God gathered it up in a shining ball
  • 00:31:43.391 --> 00:31:46.494
  • And flung it against the darkness,
  • 00:31:46.494 --> 00:31:48.830
  • Spangling the night with the moon and stars.
  • 00:31:48.830 --> 00:31:53.101
  • Then down between the darkness and the light,
  • 00:31:53.101 --> 00:31:55.903
  • He hurled the world, and god said, that's good.
  • 00:31:55.903 --> 00:32:03.011
  • And god himself stepped down,
  • 00:32:03.077 --> 00:32:05.446
  • And the sun was on his right hand,
  • 00:32:05.446 --> 00:32:07.348
  • And the moon was on his left.
  • 00:32:07.348 --> 00:32:09.650
  • The stars were clustered about his head,
  • 00:32:09.650 --> 00:32:12.420
  • And the earth was under his feet,
  • 00:32:12.420 --> 00:32:14.689
  • And god walked, and where he trod,
  • 00:32:14.689 --> 00:32:17.525
  • His footsteps hollowed the valleys out
  • 00:32:17.525 --> 00:32:20.428
  • And bulged the mountains up.
  • 00:32:20.428 --> 00:32:23.431
  • And then he stopped and looked
  • 00:32:23.431 --> 00:32:25.366
  • And saw that the earth was hot and barren.
  • 00:32:25.366 --> 00:32:28.636
  • So god stepped over to the edge of the world,
  • 00:32:28.636 --> 00:32:31.339
  • And he spat out the seven seas.
  • 00:32:31.339 --> 00:32:34.442
  • He batted his eyes, and the lightnings flashed.
  • 00:32:34.442 --> 00:32:38.012
  • He clapped his hands, and the thunders rolled.
  • 00:32:38.012 --> 00:32:41.749
  • And the waters above the earth came down.
  • 00:32:41.749 --> 00:32:44.852
  • The cooling waters came down.
  • 00:32:44.852 --> 00:32:50.124
  • Then the green grass sprouted,
  • 00:32:50.124 --> 00:32:51.959
  • And the little red flowers blossomed.
  • 00:32:51.959 --> 00:32:54.195
  • The pine tree pointed his finger to the sky,
  • 00:32:54.195 --> 00:32:57.965
  • And the oak spread out his arms.
  • 00:32:57.965 --> 00:33:00.735
  • The lakes cuddled down in the hollows of the ground,
  • 00:33:00.735 --> 00:33:04.472
  • And the rivers ran down to the sea,
  • 00:33:04.472 --> 00:33:06.741
  • And god smiled again.
  • 00:33:06.741 --> 00:33:09.477
  • And the rainbow appeared
  • 00:33:09.477 --> 00:33:11.145
  • And curled itself around his shoulder.
  • 00:33:11.145 --> 00:33:14.582
  • Then god raised his arm, and he waved his hand
  • 00:33:14.582 --> 00:33:17.985
  • Over the sea and over the land,
  • 00:33:17.985 --> 00:33:20.388
  • And he said, bring forth, bring forth,
  • 00:33:20.388 --> 00:33:24.325
  • And quicker than god could drop his hand,
  • 00:33:24.325 --> 00:33:27.261
  • Fishes and fowls and beasts and birds
  • 00:33:27.261 --> 00:33:30.665
  • Swam the rivers and the seas,
  • 00:33:30.665 --> 00:33:33.534
  • Roamed the forests and the woods,
  • 00:33:33.534 --> 00:33:35.736
  • And split the air with their wings,
  • 00:33:35.736 --> 00:33:38.372
  • And god said, that's good.
  • 00:33:38.372 --> 00:33:43.444
  • Then god walked around, and god looked around
  • 00:33:43.511 --> 00:33:46.647
  • On all that he had made.
  • 00:33:46.647 --> 00:33:49.584
  • He looked at his sun.
  • 00:33:49.584 --> 00:33:51.919
  • He looked at his moon.
  • 00:33:51.919 --> 00:33:54.288
  • And he looked at his little stars.
  • 00:33:54.288 --> 00:33:56.891
  • He looked on his world, with all its living things,
  • 00:33:56.891 --> 00:34:00.394
  • And god said, i'm lonely still.
  • 00:34:00.394 --> 00:34:06.033
  • Then god sat down on the side of a hill,
  • 00:34:06.100 --> 00:34:09.170
  • Where he could think.
  • 00:34:09.170 --> 00:34:12.173
  • By a deep, wide river, he sat down
  • 00:34:12.173 --> 00:34:15.243
  • With his head in his hands, caught in thought.
  • 00:34:15.243 --> 00:34:19.881
  • [sighs]
  • 00:34:19.881 --> 00:34:21.616
  • I'll make me a man.
  • 00:34:21.616 --> 00:34:24.785
  • Up from the bed of the river, god scooped the clay,
  • 00:34:24.785 --> 00:34:28.356
  • And by the bank of the river,
  • 00:34:28.356 --> 00:34:30.324
  • He kneeled him down, and there,
  • 00:34:30.324 --> 00:34:32.994
  • The great god almighty, who lit the sun
  • 00:34:32.994 --> 00:34:36.531
  • And fixed it in the sky, who flung the stars
  • 00:34:36.531 --> 00:34:39.834
  • To the most far corner of the night,
  • 00:34:39.834 --> 00:34:42.203
  • Who rounded the earth in the middle of his hand,
  • 00:34:42.203 --> 00:34:45.306
  • This great god,
  • 00:34:45.306 --> 00:34:47.542
  • Like a mammy bending over her baby,
  • 00:34:47.542 --> 00:34:50.945
  • Kneeled down in the dust, toiling over a lump of clay
  • 00:34:50.945 --> 00:34:55.816
  • Till he shaped it in his own image.
  • 00:34:55.816 --> 00:34:58.986
  • Then into it he blew the breath of life.
  • 00:34:58.986 --> 00:35:03.791
  • [exhales forcefully]
  • 00:35:03.791 --> 00:35:06.928
  • And man became a living soul.
  • 00:35:06.994 --> 00:35:14.602
  • Amen.
  • 00:35:14.602 --> 00:35:17.405
  • Amen.
  • 00:35:17.405 --> 00:35:19.941
  • ♪ ♪
  • 00:35:19.941 --> 00:35:26.948
  • In our ministry, we focus on character building
  • 00:35:26.948 --> 00:35:32.253
  • And through mentoring.
  • 00:35:32.253 --> 00:35:35.489
  • And again, when a child is learning to read
  • 00:35:35.489 --> 00:35:41.062
  • And a child is learning academics,
  • 00:35:41.062 --> 00:35:45.366
  • That's an exercise in character building.
  • 00:35:45.366 --> 00:35:49.704
  • When a child recognizes that,
  • 00:35:49.704 --> 00:35:53.207
  • There's so much i've got to learn,
  • 00:35:53.207 --> 00:35:55.743
  • And i'm willing to embrace learning,
  • 00:35:55.743 --> 00:35:58.446
  • Character is everything.
  • 00:35:58.446 --> 00:36:00.348
  • - right, right, right, right.
  • 00:36:00.348 --> 00:36:03.184
  • - but i was so infatuated by his character...
  • 00:36:03.184 --> 00:36:07.822
  • - yes. - his integrity...
  • 00:36:07.822 --> 00:36:09.457
  • - yes. - his patience,
  • 00:36:09.457 --> 00:36:11.926
  • His long suffering.
  • 00:36:11.926 --> 00:36:13.294
  • - right. [chuckles]
  • 00:36:13.294 --> 00:36:15.062
  • Forgiveness.
  • 00:36:15.062 --> 00:36:16.264
  • - forgiveness. and you met him.
  • 00:36:16.264 --> 00:36:17.798
  • - yeah, february 8, 1990,
  • 00:36:17.798 --> 00:36:22.803
  • I landed in johannesburg.
  • 00:36:22.803 --> 00:36:24.972
  • - yeah.
  • 00:36:24.972 --> 00:36:26.340
  • - february 9th, the following day,
  • 00:36:26.340 --> 00:36:29.810
  • We were in the offices of president f.w. de klerk,
  • 00:36:29.810 --> 00:36:34.649
  • The president of the country,
  • 00:36:34.649 --> 00:36:36.951
  • In his offices in cape town.
  • 00:36:36.951 --> 00:36:40.254
  • - yeah.
  • 00:36:40.254 --> 00:36:41.555
  • - and after, you know, the normal chitchat,
  • 00:36:41.555 --> 00:36:46.894
  • He looked at us and said,
  • 00:36:46.894 --> 00:36:48.796
  • You've come a long way to tell us apartheid is wrong.
  • 00:36:48.796 --> 00:36:52.199
  • - [laughs]
  • 00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:54.302
  • - and then he said, but i want you to know,
  • 00:36:54.302 --> 00:36:57.138
  • You're preaching to the choir.
  • 00:36:57.138 --> 00:37:00.041
  • We know it's wrong.
  • 00:37:00.041 --> 00:37:02.209
  • He said, we need time.
  • 00:37:02.209 --> 00:37:04.111
  • We need time to change.
  • 00:37:04.111 --> 00:37:07.048
  • Well, he didn't tell us in that meeting
  • 00:37:07.048 --> 00:37:09.417
  • That the next day,
  • 00:37:09.417 --> 00:37:11.652
  • He had a secret meeting with nelson mandela
  • 00:37:11.652 --> 00:37:15.790
  • To inform him suddenly
  • 00:37:15.790 --> 00:37:19.360
  • That the following day,
  • 00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:21.996
  • He was going before the press to announce
  • 00:37:21.996 --> 00:37:25.066
  • That he would be released the next day.
  • 00:37:25.066 --> 00:37:28.402
  • So, bill, as a consequence,
  • 00:37:28.402 --> 00:37:30.805
  • I was in the crowd that welcomed nelson mandela
  • 00:37:30.805 --> 00:37:36.243
  • When he came out of prison.
  • 00:37:36.243 --> 00:37:37.845
  • - yeah.
  • 00:37:37.845 --> 00:37:39.380
  • - it was jubilant.
  • 00:37:39.380 --> 00:37:41.682
  • It was electric. it was amazing.
  • 00:37:41.682 --> 00:37:44.952
  • And of course, everyone was on pins and needles,
  • 00:37:44.952 --> 00:37:49.523
  • Because we all knew that the future of this nation,
  • 00:37:49.523 --> 00:37:54.829
  • Whether it went up in flames
  • 00:37:54.829 --> 00:37:56.897
  • Or whether it would have a chance to go a path
  • 00:37:56.897 --> 00:38:01.669
  • That was peaceful,
  • 00:38:01.669 --> 00:38:03.771
  • All depended upon what nelson mandela had--would say.
  • 00:38:03.771 --> 00:38:07.808
  • - yeah.
  • 00:38:07.808 --> 00:38:12.847
  • For forgiveness, where he let this country know
  • 00:38:12.847 --> 00:38:18.519
  • And all his comrades, as they call them, know
  • 00:38:18.519 --> 00:38:21.922
  • That we are moving in a path
  • 00:38:21.922 --> 00:38:25.226
  • Of love and respect for every human being,
  • 00:38:25.226 --> 00:38:29.530
  • It changed the course of this nation.
  • 00:38:29.530 --> 00:38:32.199
  • - oh, absolutely.
  • 00:38:32.199 --> 00:38:33.467
  • - and nelson mandela
  • 00:38:33.467 --> 00:38:35.803
  • Is one of those amazing human beings
  • 00:38:35.803 --> 00:38:38.706
  • That god placed on this earth.
  • 00:38:38.706 --> 00:38:41.041
  • - absolutely. - mm-hmm.
  • 00:38:41.041 --> 00:38:43.477
  • ♪ mm-hmm. ♪
  • 00:38:43.477 --> 00:38:45.446
  • [tender music]
  • 00:38:45.446 --> 00:38:47.548
  • ♪ deep in my heart, ♪
  • 00:38:47.548 --> 00:38:51.218
  • ♪ i do believe ♪
  • 00:38:51.218 --> 00:38:54.922
  • ♪ someday we'll all be free. ♪
  • 00:38:54.922 --> 00:38:58.726
  • ♪ we will be free. ♪
  • 00:38:58.726 --> 00:39:02.229
  • ♪ i may not know ♪
  • 00:39:02.229 --> 00:39:06.033
  • ♪ how long 'twill be. ♪
  • 00:39:06.033 --> 00:39:09.737
  • ♪ someday we'll all be free. ♪
  • 00:39:09.737 --> 00:39:13.407
  • ♪ we will be free. ♪
  • 00:39:13.407 --> 00:39:17.077
  • ♪ someday we'll all be free. ♪
  • 00:39:17.077 --> 00:39:24.885
  • ♪ ♪
  • 00:39:24.885 --> 00:39:27.321
  • ♪ mm, mm. ♪
  • 00:39:27.321 --> 00:39:31.292
  • ♪ mm-hmm. ♪
  • 00:39:31.292 --> 00:39:33.260
  • ♪ ♪
  • 00:39:33.260 --> 00:39:35.596
  • ♪ hold on, my brother. ♪
  • 00:39:35.596 --> 00:39:39.166
  • ♪ give me your hand. ♪
  • 00:39:39.166 --> 00:39:42.937
  • ♪ someday we'll all be free. ♪
  • 00:39:42.937 --> 00:39:46.740
  • ♪ we will be free. ♪
  • 00:39:46.740 --> 00:39:50.311
  • ♪ learning to love, ♪
  • 00:39:50.311 --> 00:39:53.981
  • ♪ we'll find our way. ♪
  • 00:39:53.981 --> 00:39:57.651
  • ♪ someday we'll all be free. ♪
  • 00:39:57.651 --> 00:40:01.388
  • ♪ we will be free. ♪
  • 00:40:01.388 --> 00:40:05.025
  • ♪ someday we'll all be free. ♪
  • 00:40:05.025 --> 00:40:10.464
  • ♪ and we shall overcome. ♪
  • 00:40:10.464 --> 00:40:18.005
  • ♪ we shall overcome. ♪
  • 00:40:18.005 --> 00:40:25.312
  • ♪ we shall overcome ♪
  • 00:40:25.312 --> 00:40:30.885
  • ♪ someday. ♪
  • 00:40:30.885 --> 00:40:38.359
  • ♪ oh, oh, deep in my heart, ♪
  • 00:40:38.359 --> 00:40:47.535
  • ♪ i do believe ♪
  • 00:40:47.535 --> 00:40:55.009
  • ♪ we shall overcome ♪
  • 00:40:55.009 --> 00:41:00.414
  • ♪ someday. ♪
  • 00:41:00.414 --> 00:41:06.820
  • ♪ ♪
  • 00:41:06.820 --> 00:41:09.790
  • ♪ we shall overcome. ♪
  • 00:41:09.790 --> 00:41:15.563
  • ♪ i know that we shall overcome. ♪
  • 00:41:15.563 --> 00:41:23.003
  • ♪ i know that we shall overcome ♪
  • 00:41:23.003 --> 00:41:30.444
  • ♪ someday. ♪
  • 00:41:30.444 --> 00:41:37.451
  • ♪ oh, oh, deep in my heart, ♪
  • 00:41:37.451 --> 00:41:43.991
  • ♪ deep in my heart, lord, ♪
  • 00:41:43.991 --> 00:41:46.627
  • ♪ i do believe ♪
  • 00:41:46.627 --> 00:41:54.034
  • ♪ we shall overcome. ♪
  • 00:41:54.034 --> 00:41:59.673
  • ♪ i know that we shall overcome. ♪
  • 00:41:59.673 --> 00:42:06.580
  • ♪ i know that we shall, we shall overcome some-- ♪
  • 00:42:06.580 --> 00:42:16.023
  • ♪ deep in my heart, ♪
  • 00:42:16.023 --> 00:42:19.927
  • ♪ i do believe ♪
  • 00:42:19.927 --> 00:42:23.530
  • ♪ someday we'll all be free. ♪
  • 00:42:23.530 --> 00:42:27.267
  • ♪ someday we'll all be free. ♪
  • 00:42:27.267 --> 00:42:34.241
  • ♪ and we shall overcome ♪
  • 00:42:34.241 --> 00:42:41.615
  • ♪ someday. ♪
  • 00:42:41.615 --> 00:43:03.404
  • ♪ ♪
  • 00:43:05.939 --> 00:43:12.946
  • In our ministry, we focus on character building
  • 00:43:12.946 --> 00:43:18.252
  • And through mentoring.
  • 00:43:18.252 --> 00:43:21.488
  • And again, when a child is learning to read
  • 00:43:21.488 --> 00:43:27.061
  • And a child is learning academics,
  • 00:43:27.061 --> 00:43:31.365
  • That's an exercise in character building.
  • 00:43:31.365 --> 00:43:35.703
  • When a child recognizes that,
  • 00:43:35.703 --> 00:43:39.206
  • There's so much i've got to learn,
  • 00:43:39.206 --> 00:43:41.742
  • And i'm willing to embrace learning,
  • 00:43:41.742 --> 00:43:45.312
  • Character is everything.
  • 00:43:45.312 --> 00:43:48.182
  • [reverent music]
  • 00:43:48.182 --> 00:43:50.951
  • ♪ let there be peace on earth, ♪
  • 00:43:50.951 --> 00:43:57.291
  • ♪ and let it begin with me. ♪
  • 00:43:57.291 --> 00:44:04.431
  • ♪ let there be peace on earth, ♪
  • 00:44:04.431 --> 00:44:11.171
  • ♪ the peace that was meant to be. ♪
  • 00:44:11.171 --> 00:44:18.312
  • ♪ with god as our father, ♪
  • 00:44:18.312 --> 00:44:25.486
  • ♪ brothers all are we. ♪
  • 00:44:25.486 --> 00:44:32.693
  • ♪ let me walk with my brother ♪
  • 00:44:32.693 --> 00:44:39.466
  • ♪ in perfect harmony. ♪
  • 00:44:39.466 --> 00:44:46.540
  • ♪ let peace begin with me. ♪
  • 00:44:46.540 --> 00:44:52.746
  • ♪ let this be the moment now. ♪
  • 00:44:52.746 --> 00:45:00.754
  • ♪ with every step i take, ♪
  • 00:45:00.754 --> 00:45:07.127
  • ♪ let this be my solemn vow, ♪
  • 00:45:07.127 --> 00:45:14.468
  • ♪ to take each moment ♪
  • 00:45:14.468 --> 00:45:18.472
  • ♪ and live each moment ♪
  • 00:45:18.472 --> 00:45:21.742
  • ♪ in peace eternally. ♪
  • 00:45:21.742 --> 00:45:28.448
  • ♪ let there be peace on earth, ♪
  • 00:45:28.448 --> 00:45:35.522
  • ♪ and let it begin with me. ♪
  • 00:45:35.522 --> 00:45:41.762
  • - ♪ let there be peace on earth, ♪
  • 00:45:41.762 --> 00:45:45.766
  • ♪ and let it begin with me. ♪
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  • ♪ let there be peace on earth, ♪
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  • ♪ the peace that was meant to be. ♪
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  • - ♪ with god as our father, ♪
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  • ♪ brothers all are we. ♪
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  • ♪ let me walk with my brother ♪
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  • ♪ in perfect harmony. ♪
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  • ♪ let peace begin with me. ♪
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  • ♪ let this be the moment now. ♪
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  • ♪ with every step i take, ♪
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  • ♪ let this be my solemn vow, ♪
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  • ♪ to take each moment ♪
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  • ♪ and live each moment ♪
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  • ♪ in peace eternally. ♪
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  • ♪ let there be peace on earth, ♪
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  • ♪ and let it begin ♪
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  • ♪ with me. ♪
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  • [cheers and applause]
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  • Wintley: you know, i almost could have
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  • Started this interview
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  • With one of the most important stories of my life.
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  • I was at home,
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  • And an aunt came to visit me who i hadn't seen in years,
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  • And she was walking around the house,
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  • Looking at all the pictures with all the presidents
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  • And, you know, oprah and mrs. king
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  • And rosa parks.
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  • And she sees all these pictures
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  • With president reagan, and she says, sit down.
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  • I want to tell you something.
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  • So i sat down, and she said, your father, my brother,
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  • Two years before you were born,
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  • We had a sister named pearl
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  • Who died while having an abortion,
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  • Getting rid of an unwanted pregnancy.
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  • And when your mother became pregnant with you
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  • Outside of wedlock,
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  • There were some who were urging her to do the same.
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  • But we--some of us gathered, rallied around your mother
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  • To say, no, we went through too much pain
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  • Losing our sister.
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  • We don't want anything like this to happen again.
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  • And then your mother's mother
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  • Came up and paid a visit
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  • To our mother, your father's mother,
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  • And they closed the door to talk about this situation,
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  • And they made a pact
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  • That they would pray for the life of this child.
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  • - [exhales sharply]
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  • - and they decided the prayer that they were gonna pray
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  • Is, lord, make this child's life
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  • A blessing to the world.
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  • - uh-huh.
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  • - and so, bill, all that's happened in my life,
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  • All the places that i've gone,
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  • All the audiences that i've sung to...
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  • Meeting you, working with you,
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  • You have been a blessing to my ministry
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  • In ways that i cannot begin to count.
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  • And i could never find the words to express to you
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  • And gloria my gratitude, my love.
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  • You opened doors for me.
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  • But what i want you to see is that what you did
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  • And what god has done in my life and ministry...
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  • - ok.
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  • - it's an answer to two grandmothers' prayers.
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  • - that's a wonderful story.
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  • That's a wonderful story.
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  • - ♪ amazing grace, ♪
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  • ♪ how sweet the sound ♪
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  • ♪ that saved a wretch ♪
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  • ♪ like me. ♪
  • 00:51:05.352 --> 00:51:10.757
  • ♪ i once was lost, ♪
  • 00:51:10.757 --> 00:51:18.198
  • ♪ but now i'm found, ♪
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  • ♪ was blind, ♪
  • 00:51:22.469 --> 00:51:25.539
  • ♪ but now i see. ♪
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  • [soft music]
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  • ♪ ♪
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  • ♪ through many dangers, ♪
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  • ♪ toils, and snares ♪
  • 00:52:00.774 --> 00:52:04.611
  • ♪ i have already come. ♪
  • 00:52:04.611 --> 00:52:15.689
  • ♪ 'twas grace that brought me ♪
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  • ♪ safe thus far, ♪
  • 00:52:22.963 --> 00:52:29.369
  • ♪ and grace will lead ♪
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  • ♪ me home. ♪
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  • ♪ ♪
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  • ♪ when we've been there ♪
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  • ♪ 10,000 years, ♪
  • 00:52:53.660 --> 00:52:57.897
  • ♪ bright shining as the sun, ♪
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  • ♪ we've no less days ♪
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  • ♪ to sing god's praise ♪
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  • ♪ than when ♪
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  • ♪ we first begun. ♪
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  • ♪ hallelujah. ♪
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  • ♪ hallelujah. ♪
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  • ♪ amen. ♪
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  • ♪ hallelujah. ♪
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  • ♪ hallelujah. ♪
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  • ♪ amen. ♪
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  • ♪ hallelujah. ♪
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  • ♪ hallelujah. ♪
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  • ♪ amen. ♪
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  • [applause]
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  • - wintley, one of these days,
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  • Life as we know it here on earth
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  • Is gonna be over for both of us.
  • 00:54:15.709 --> 00:54:17.310
  • - that's correct.
  • 00:54:17.310 --> 00:54:18.778
  • - and some folks are gonna say something about you.
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  • - yeah.
  • 00:54:22.615 --> 00:54:23.750
  • - what would you like for them to say?
  • 00:54:23.750 --> 00:54:26.753
  • - i would like for them to say
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  • That here was a child
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  • Who really loves jesus.
  • 00:54:34.894 --> 00:54:38.098
  • One of the songs that i'm singing
  • 00:54:38.098 --> 00:54:42.535
  • And i've been enjoying singing
  • 00:54:42.535 --> 00:54:43.903
  • Is an old negro spiritual...
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  • ♪ talk about a child ♪
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  • ♪ that do love jesus. ♪
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  • - here's one. - ♪ here's one. ♪
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  • I would love for them to be able to say,
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  • There's one child who loved jesus so much
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  • That he dedicated his life completely to christ.
  • 00:55:03.056 --> 00:55:08.027
  • He tried his best to resemble, reflect, and reveal
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  • The character of christ in his life,
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  • And he tried to inspire and motivate
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  • As many people as possible to become more
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  • Like the character of christ.
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  • If i could have that said about me, that's all i need.
  • 00:55:28.748 --> 00:55:34.254
  • ♪ ever since i heard the gospel story, ♪
  • 00:55:34.254 --> 00:55:39.692
  • ♪ i've been traveling up the path to glory. ♪
  • 00:55:39.692 --> 00:55:45.064
  • ♪ talk about a child that do love jesus. ♪
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  • ♪ here's one. ♪
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  • ♪ here's one. ♪
  • 00:55:58.178 --> 00:56:04.217
  • ♪ ever since i heard the gospel story, ♪
  • 00:56:04.217 --> 00:56:09.789
  • ♪ i've been traveling up the path to glory. ♪
  • 00:56:09.789 --> 00:56:15.295
  • ♪ talk about a child that do love jesus. ♪
  • 00:56:15.295 --> 00:56:21.000
  • ♪ here's one. ♪
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  • ♪ here's one. ♪
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  • ♪ here's one. ♪
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  • [applause]
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