Lawson Perdue - Jesus Influencers (Part 7)

June 3, 2025 | S25:E2303

Pastor Lawson Perdue from the Charis Christian Center outreach speaks to viewers across the globe about the practical message of Jesus Christ

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Grace for Today with Lawson Perdue | Lawson Perdue - Jesus Influencers (Part 7) | June 3, 2025

(uplifting music)
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- praise the lord, friends,
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And welcome to our broadcast.
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I'm so glad that you've tuned in today.
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I have a question for you.
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Do you want to become
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An effective influencer for the lord jesus christ?
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If you do, how can that happen?
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How can that become a living reality in your life?
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We're gonna talk about that during this broadcast,
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So stay tuned.
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You're gonna hear great truth. blessings.
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Friend, it's so good to have you with us today.
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We're actually sharing
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From aaron's teaching on jesus influencers
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That you've been sharing with the youth.
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But it doesn't matter how young or old we are as a believer,
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We can be a positive influence for jesus.
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And i believe we're called to that.
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- and we're all actually impacting some people
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That you don't even realize you're impacting.
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We're all influencing people
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That you might not even realize that you're influencing.
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When i was getting my master's and doctorate
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In houston, texas at rice university,
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I taught this one student for six years,
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Almost the entire time i was there.
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His family just moved from shanghai, china.
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He was just 10 years old at the time,
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Didn't even speak english.
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In our first lessons, his mom would translate,
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And she barely spoke english too.
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But at the very last lesson or something,
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That they told me that they were actually going
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To the same church that i went to.
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I never even told them where i went to church.
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I never really preached the gospel to them.
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They knew i was a believer.
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And, you know, i would usually teach them sunday afternoon,
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So, i had just come home from church
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And had my bible in my, you know, church bulletin.
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I'd always have, you know, my bulletin.
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They had a printed bulletin at the time.
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So, i think they might've just seen my church bulletin
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And at some point started going to church there too.
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But they were like, yeah, we go to that church.
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They went to a different service than i did, but.
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- that's awesome.
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- sometimes you're impacting people,
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Influencing people that you don't even realize
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The level of impact you have on people's lives.
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- yeah, this is great,
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Because when you look at 1 peter 4:10, it says,
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"as every man or every person has received the gift,
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So let him minister one to another."
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Well, what gift is common to every believer?
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It's the gift of salvation.
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- hmm.
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- so, every born again believer
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Has received the gift of salvation, and were to minister.
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It says, "so let him minister the same," right?
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We're all heirs of salvation as believers,
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But we need to minister salvation.
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We need to minister, right, the gospel,
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Share the good message of jesus with people around us.
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And at that time, you know,
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You had no idea that you were gonna become a pastor,
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But god, you know, was using you, you know,
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While you were in school,
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You know, studying different things
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To be a witness to people around you.
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And god can, you know, use us wherever we're at.
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And we talked yesterday a little bit in the broadcast
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About how when we, you know,
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Receive the baptism of the holy spirit,
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It really, you know, makes the word come alive to us.
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And i know, you know, when i was a young child,
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When i was just 14 years old,
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Now, i received jesus as my savior when i was just eight.
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But when i was 14,
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I received the baptism of the holy spirit.
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And, you know, my parents started going to this bible study
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And it really changed our life.
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And we lived out way out in the country.
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And our closest neighbor was like, you know,
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A half a mile from our house by the way of the road, and.
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But, they started asking us, where do you go to church?
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People at school, teachers at school started asking me,
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Where do you go to church?
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They never asked that before.
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But, you know, our lives begin to radiate jesus.
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And, you know, our lives really should be
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A living demonstration of who jesus is.
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- and i kind of have a word
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For several people watching right now,
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And it's, don't be afraid to be different.
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- [lawson] right.
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- and something my wife and i have discussed
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Since we've been doing the youth ministry
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Here at our church for over a year now,
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Just recently we reached a year mark.
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But, we both kind of looked back at what it was like
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For us as teenagers in church, you know.
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I grew up here in colorado. i went to church here.
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When we first started, i was in ninth grade,
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So i was the only youth.
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By the time i was a senior,
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There was 30 or 40 youth around the church,
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There were more.
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But my wife went, you know, she grew up in tennessee,
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Went to a baptist church, and she really didn't like,
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You know, going to church and the youth ministry.
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And she went to a camp and got in a fight with someone.
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And like, she had a very negative experience.
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But she said, what she's kind of observed
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About me and her, our teenage years,
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She said, i really tried to fit in.
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I really tried to fit in with, you know, everyone around me.
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And she said, "you didn't have that same issue.
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Like, you were just who you were."
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You know, i played the flute.
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I just didn't really care about fitting in.
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Even today, i don't care about fitting in
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And just doing everything that's trendy.
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You know, like i, certain shoes are trendy, certain things.
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Like, i just, you know, i got a pair of boots on right now.
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There aren't a whole lot
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Of 38-year-old flute playing, preaching, you know?
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I just do whatever i want to do, you know?
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And that's actually a really good quality to have.
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She says, you know, i want, our son's 11 right now.
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I have a 4-year-old daughter, you know.
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And she can tell,
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Like, there's a lot of peer pressure, even at age 11.
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"like, i got to get the shoes that everyone else has."
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"i got to, you know,
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Wear the hat that everyone else has," you know.
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And if i do anything that's slightly abnormal,
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It's like the end of the world.
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But she said, "i don't want him to have that same mindset
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Going through his teenage years like i had,
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Because it's very negative."
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Because you don't want to be like everyone else.
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- right.
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Well, you know, we actually pastored when you were young.
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You were just, you know, like two years old when we moved,
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And not even maybe, yeah, just about two years old
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When we moved to kit carson and started a church.
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And it was a very small community.
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And so we kind of stood out.
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And at first, mom noticed people from the community
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And other churches would almost, you know,
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Not from our church, but other people would almost go
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On the other side of the street to get away from us.
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But after about a year, you know, people warmed up to us.
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And then people from other churches
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Would start coming to us for counsel.
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And we were a witness.
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We were the only pastors that actually lived in that town.
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There were three other churches, traditional churches,
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But then we came.
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We were that church and people knew us.
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But, you know, your life as, you know, there,
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It was very evident, right?
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If you paid your bills, right? if you did things.
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But our life began to be a testimony to people around us.
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And i think just being raised in that atmosphere,
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And then we were very different,
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Because we didn't do things other people did, right?
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- and we just had a gentleman
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Just a little bit older than myself here,
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Ministering at the church.
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And he does a lot of consulting
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With big ministries, big pastors.
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But he told me he realized being around you
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Because you're so different, you know.
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He works with some pastors that, you know,
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Have ministries that are 10 times the size of this.
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But he said, you know, your dad is very unique.
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(lawson laughs)
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Like, and his mindset about finances, it's very unique.
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- you know, our church, it's a great size.
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I believe it's gonna grow.
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But just how my dad views finances,
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And, you know, a lot of churches, a lot of ministries
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Just spend every dollar they get instantly.
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- yeah.
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- but you have a mindset to save, which is very unusual
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In the christian world for a church, where we're gonna save
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Because we believe that god
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Will give us opportunities down the road.
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And that we need to be saving, and investing,
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And thinking about the future.
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And that is such an unusual thing.
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- aaron, the building we're sitting in,
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God gave it to us, right?
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We came here 24 years ago as we're recording this broadcast,
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And to colorado springs.
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And we didn't have hardly any people, hardly any money.
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- we started the church
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With one blind man and his wife and a bachelor.
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And we just went to work, you know?
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And god bless us, it took us, you know,
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It took us actually a year to get to 40 people.
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Six months of bible studies,
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And then six months of sunday morning services to get to 40.
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And that's counting babies.
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And then it took us another, you know,
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Year to get to about 80, you know?
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And then it took us about three years to get to 200.
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And then after about 10 years, we were about 600.
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And, you know, now we're 24 years old,
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And we have a couple of thousand people call the church home
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And about a thousand people a week attend the church
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In all the different services.
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But, you know, but god showed me, right?
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You just take, and we saved back.
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And so we were able to buy, you know,
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I was praying after we'd been here a year.
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Like, "god, where's my building gonna be," you know?
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And he's like,
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"loss in faith is a journey. enjoy the trip."
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(lawson laughs)
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And so it's like, okay.
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You know, and then it wasn't till we were here,
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You know, eight years before we bought our first property.
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And we were here, you know, nine years,
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Nine and a half years before we moved into that property
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Because it had to be built out.
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And that took time.
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And then after we were here, you know,
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In that building for a few years, for seven years,
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Then god opened the door for us to buy this building.
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And when we bought this building, you know,
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It's 120,000, over 120,000 square foot,
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And we had to pay cash and it was at a bank auction.
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And it was a lot of cash, you know?
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And we bought it for $5.7 million.
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And then we built it out.
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And it took us $2 million, which is a miracle.
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We built it out for $2 million. that was supernatural.
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But the day that we moved into this building,
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Because then we had sold our other building,
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It was paid off.
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And then god, you know, he just told me,
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When i moved into the first building,
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And we wouldn't have been able to move into that
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Unless we'd saved money and got prepared.
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But when we moved in, god said,
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Pay this off and then save at least 20%.
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You know, joseph made pharaoh the richest man on the planet
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By saving one fifth, or 20%.
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And, you know, what do you do with the first 20%?
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I teach this in personal finances.
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You give the first 10%, you save the next 10%.
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You learn how to live off 80%.
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Now, you can give more than 10%. you can save more than 10%.
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But, learn how to live on 80% or less.
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And that will work into good health, right?
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Personally, financially.
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Well, the church is like a spiritual house.
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And a lot of people spend every nickel.
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I have a new person who helps us with that.
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He went back to the old church where he's from.
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And they had this thing that cost,
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You know, like $800,000, you know,
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On their stage and all this stuff.
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And he thought, wow, it'd be nice to have that.
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And then he thought, well, you know, my pastor, you know,
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And they owe a lot of money
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On their building and all these things.
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And yet he said, well, it's kind of nice
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Being a part of a church that can give,
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And build churches around the world,
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And do all these things that we do,
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And bless other ministries.
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And maybe we don't have all the fancy bells and whistles,
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But it's all paid for.
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And that just leaves us in a very strong position
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As we go forward.
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To be different in how you parent.
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Don't be afraid to be different in how you work.
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- you know, you said even when you worked,
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You know, when you were gonna bible college,
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You worked for lester sumrall,
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For his church, for his ministry.
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And you said people were just had the same,
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Like, i'm just gonna clock in, you know, right at nine,
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And be lined up at 4:59 just ready to punch out.
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- listen, i saw people, and they would clock in,
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We worked from eight to five,
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But they would clock in right at the last minute, right?
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I got there about 30 minutes early,
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And i went to night school every night.
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I went to night school because that's where i studied,
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That's where i was getting my degree.
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But, i volunteered on sunday morning,
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Volunteered on sunday night, you know, and i got more hours.
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But, i came at 7:30 and clocked in.
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- even dozens of people that they're just normal.
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- 15 minutes before lunchtime,
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They'd be forming a line to clock out
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At the minute it turned noon,
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So they could go grab their lunch.
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I just thought, this is pathetic, you know?
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And then they'd clock in right at the last.
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I just like, waiting.
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And then, you know, 20 minutes till five,
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They'd all be forming the line
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To get out there as fast as they could.
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If you don't like your job, quit, you know?
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Go somewhere where you can be a blessing.
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- but, if you're just acting normal, doing normal,
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Thinking normal, you're going to, you know,
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Nothing supernatural is gonna happen in your life.
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- right.
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- and, you know, too many people are just afraid
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To slightly deviate from what's normal in the world.
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And we're actually not to,
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We're to stand out radically from the world, you know?
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I want to read this verse in romans 12:1-2.
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It says, "i beseech you, therefore brethren,
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By the mercies of god."
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So, paul is actually pleading with these people,
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With these believers in rome,
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You should not look like everyone else in roman society.
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- he's pleading by the mercies of god,
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That you present your bodies a living sacrifice,
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Holy acceptable to god, which is your reasonable,
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This is reasonable for you to do.
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Why is it reasonable for you to lay some things down?
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- yes.
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- to lay your life down,
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To lay your body down, to surrender.
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Why should you surrender to god?
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It's reasonable because he gave jesus for you.
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- right.
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- he shed his blood for you.
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It is reasonable for you to go to church, to be a giver,
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To be different than everyone else.
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Not to just have to go fishing on sunday,
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Or just stay home and watch netflix.
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Like, you should be different.
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Only 4% of the american population goes to church on sunday,
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Even though 50% of people claim to be christian.
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Why are so many christians completely pathetic?
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It's completely unreasonable
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If you believe that jesus died for you.
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- right, you know, the bible actually says this, aaron.
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But, in 1 corinthians 6:19-20, it says,
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"you're bought with a price,
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Therefore glorify god in your body and in your spirit,"
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Which are god's.
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You know, my body is the property of god.
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My spirit is the property of god, right?
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So, i'm to glorify god,
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Not only in my spirit, but also in my body.
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And look at this, he says, "i beseech you brethren,
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By the mercies of god, by the grace of god."
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You know, we're a grace church, right?
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We teach both grace and faith.
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So, i consider myself word of grace and word of faith.
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Paul said it's the word of faith that we preach.
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That term is actually looked down upon
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By many traditional churches and many charismatic churches,
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But it's a scriptural term.
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It comes from romans 10:8-10, okay?
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So, if you have a challenge with that scripture,
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Maybe you need to get born again, right?
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But he says, "by the mercies, by the grace of god."
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But a lot of the grace culture, right,
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People don't necessarily want to do
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Some traditional things that are in the word.
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But if they're in the word, we ought to be doing them.
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He said, "present your body a living sacrifice,
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Holy and acceptable to god,
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Which is your reasonable service."
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In other words, i don't belong to me anymore.
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I'm the property of jesus. my spirit is the property of god.
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My body is the property of god, so, if i don't, you know.
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And there's really, when you begin to think about it,
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You read this scripture yesterday in matthew 16 about,
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In matthew 16:24-25, about denying yourself,
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Taking up your cross and following jesus.
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And really, if you really begin to understand the scripture
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And being conformed to jesus,
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There's four deaths that every believer needs to understand.
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Death to the world, right?
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Death to sin, death to the law, and death to self.
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And really, you know, one of those really,
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We talk about in the grace circles,
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Which is death to the law,
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But we've got to die to the world,
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Died to sin, die to self, right, as well as die to the law.
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All of those are scriptural.
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But, he says, that this is your reasonable service.
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So, if you're gonna present your body a living sacrifice,
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There's some death that has to take place.
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- and i love this too.
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It's, you know, "we're to be holy acceptable to god,
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It's our reasonable service.
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And don't be conformed to this world, but be transformed,"
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This is how you are transformed,
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"by the renewing of your mind that you may prove
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What is a good and acceptable and perfect will of god."
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We have to renew our mind.
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- yeah.
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- you have to constantly renew your mind,
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And you do that through the word of god.
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- yeah, and the reason we have to continually renew our mind
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Is because we're in the world
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That's been affected by sin and affected by satan.
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And the world is always working on you. thoughts, attitude.
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You can't turn on the television,
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You can't really just drive down the street,
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Go to the grocery store, you know,
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You'll see some ungodly bumper sticker.
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You know, i went to the gym
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When i'm out ministering at another church.
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And i'm in the gym, and they're playing, you know,
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Just, you know, it doesn't sound.
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But then you start listening to the words
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And you're like, this is ungodly, this is terrible.
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Why would anybody feed their brain with this stuff?
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Because the world doesn't conform to the word of god.
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So, you know, that word, renewal of your mind,
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Means the absolute renovation of your mind.
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We've got to renovate our mind.
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And how does that happen? by the word.
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It's not just by studying the word of god,
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But it's letting the word of god, you know,
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Begin to determine, you know, the way we think about god,
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The way we think about ourselves,
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The way we think about other people,
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And the way that we think about the world that we live in.
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- yeah, and this is something i want to say too,
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Like, what does it mean to conform,
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To conform to this world.
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To conform means to bend to.
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You know, jesus does not bend to this world.
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Jesus is the same, yesterday, today and forever.
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His word is forever established in heaven.
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He does not bend.
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Too many people try to bend jesus or bend the bible
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To what they think it should say.
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- i want to share something talking about that.
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You know, i went to dr. lester sumrall's bible school.
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And he was full gospel, pentecostal.
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But, you know, he talked to jerry falwell,
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And they were part of the, you know,
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Religious right or something at that time.
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But jerry falwell, he loved jerry falwell.
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Of course, jerry falwell came
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From a different kind of side of the church, right?
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The non-pentecostal or charismatic side.
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But he said, "i'll tell you something about jerry falwell."
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Lester sumrall said.
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"he's got a backbone of iron and he'll stand up to anybody."
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And i was actually watching jerry falwell preach one time,
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And i took something from him.
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And he said, "we are citizens of heaven
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On loan to the earth from god."
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And, you know what? that is scripture.
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That's what the bible says in philippians 3:20-21,
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That our conversation is from heaven,
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Where we look for the savior jesus christ, the lord,
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Who when he comes,
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Will change our vile body to be fashioned
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According to his glorious body.
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The working wherewith,
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He is able to subdue all things to himself.
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So, you know what? this isn't a charismatic deal.
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This isn't a baptist deal. this isn't a catholic deal.
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This isn't a presbyterian deal. this is a jesus deal.
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- and i want to say this too about, you know,
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Conforming to this world, it means to fit that mold.
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- right.
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- you know, and i saw a video of a gardener
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Who works with like watermelon and pumpkins,
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And he puts these things in a clear plastic mold.
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And then that pumpkin will take the shape of like a square,
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Or a, you know, if he has like a face shape.
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Like, he had like a frankenstein mold,
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And the pumpkin actually looked like
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The frankenstein creature.
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So, this i had to say about the mold of the world.
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The world is always changing.
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- and what they consider to be right is always,
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That mold is always changing.
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So, that mold to fit in, it's constantly, you know,
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Culture is constantly changing.
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- technology is constantly changing.
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What the majority of people think to be right or wrong,
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You know, ethics, that's constantly changing.
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What people think to just be normal
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Is constantly changing.
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But the bible doesn't change. jesus doesn't change.
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You have to be going after him.
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Really, you're created in his image, in his mold,
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In his likeness.
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And you should be following after that.
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And if you're not, you're gonna just take the shape
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Of whatever the world thinks is normal at the time.
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- right, you know, jesus said this, actually.
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Before jesus entered in the ministry,
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He went out in the wilderness to be tempted by the devil.
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And he overcame the devil
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Every time with the word of god.
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The very first time he had been fasting,
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40 days and 40 nights.
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And the devil came to him and said,
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If you be the son of god,
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Then you turn these stones into bread.
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And he was hungry, right? his flesh was hungry.
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And jesus said, "it is written,
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Man shall not live by bread alone,
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But by every word that proceeds from the mouth of god."
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And you know, if you're going to renew your mind,
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And if you're gonna begin to live by god's standards,
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You're gonna have to begin to live by the word of god.
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You're gonna have to begin to,
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First of all, you got to find out what the bible says,
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And then you got to begin to live by it.
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- and this is something i have to say about too,
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About when jesus was tempted, he answered it.
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You know, when thoughts come against you,
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And the enemy comes against you,
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When he comes against who you are in christ, right,
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Or what god has created you to do, you answer it.
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You answer it, out loud with the word of god.
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You have to know the word. so, you answer it.
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And also, it wasn't just a one-time thing.
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The enemy came against him several times.
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- right, and jesus overcame the devil every time,
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In every temptation by speaking the word of god.
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So, take the word of god, find out what it says.
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And if the devil tempts you, you say what god says.
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Say what god says about you.
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Say what god says about the situation.
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And begin to live by the word of god.
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And listen, it works, and it's good.
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God has a good plan for your life.
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And really, it's in the word.
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- and we should be continually in the word as well.
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That is our job as believers, as disciples,
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As followers of jesus, is to continually be in the word.
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To continually be building up our most holy faith.
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Faith comes by hearing, and hearing,
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And hearing the word of god.
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You have to continually hear the word of god.
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- you know, i've got a great teaching on this, aaron,
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Called "winning in life."
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And if you want to win in life,
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You're gonna have to do something.
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God wants you to win in life,
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But you're gonna have to do something with the word.
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- and you have to keep coming back to it.
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You know, jesus, every time he was tempted of the devil,
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He kept going back to the word of god.
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Because the word, it's a sure foundation.
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It doesn't change. it's truth, it's eternal.
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It's even more concrete, more eternal
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Than the very earth you're standing on right now.
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"heaven and earth may pass away,
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But my word remains forever."
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- and when you begin to live by the word of god,
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You'll begin to experience true freedom,
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The freedom that god wants you to have.
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I mean, it's an amazing way of.
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You know, we have so much more, i just shared about it.
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But on our website, we have hundreds of hours of teaching,
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And you can get it on our website
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At charischristiancenter.com.
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We have trained prayer ministers that are here,
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This is what really changes lives, is the word of god.
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So, if you're a giver, if you're a partner,
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Lawson Perdue - Jesus Influencers (Part 7)

June 3, 2025 | S25:E2303

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