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Grace for Today with Lawson Perdue | Lawson Perdue - Jesus Influencers (Part 8) | June 4, 2025
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- - praise the lord, friends, and welcome to the broadcast.
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- I am so glad that you're here today.
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- We're gonna be sharing today about different types of gifts
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- That are operating in the body of christ
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- And how we need different kinds of gifts, number one,
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- So we can fulfill what god called us to do.
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- But number two, so that we can be a part of god's body
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- And be effective in our life here on this earth.
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- Stay tuned.
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- Friends, i'm so glad that you're with us.
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- We're sharing on being a jesus influencer,
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- And you have some great teaching.
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- We talked about how we have to become followers of jesus.
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- And now we've been talking about, you know,
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- Not being conformed to the world.
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- But how does that happen?
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- - well, first of all, you have to not be afraid
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- To be different.
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- You know, if you're really sold out to jesus,
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- Your life is gonna look different.
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- And that's something all of us
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- Need to just settle in our heart.
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- You know, i'm not gonna be different.
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- My finances aren't gonna be the same as everyone else's.
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- - amen.
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- - and the way i look at finances,
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- It's not gonna be the same as everyone else's.
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- - amen.
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- - my relationships aren't gonna be, you know,
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- My marriage is not gonna be the same as everyone else's.
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- However you work, it's not gonna be the same.
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- My attitude, it's not gonna be the same as everyone else's.
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- Yeah, like the bible, it's very different.
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- I actually found a little note, we asked a lot
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- Of the youth at our church to take notes,
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- But one youth, he was just trying to be silly,
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- But left his note card with his notes.
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- And he was taking notes during the offering talk,
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- But then he just said, "this is why people are broke
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- Because they give to church."
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- And that's a very normal worldly thought.
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- And that offering outta the 40 students there,
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- There was only $6 in the offering.
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- It was actually a really, you know, i'm like,
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- None of these kids are broke from giving to, you know,
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- On a wednesday night at youth.
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- Like if they're broke
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- And if they're gonna be broke later in life,
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- That kid's broke.
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- You know, it's not gonna be the church's fault.
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- - before i got baptized in the holy spirit, my dad taught me
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- To tithe when i was like four years old.
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- So when i was 13, i got my first paycheck
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- And i was making between $1 and $3 an hour working
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- On the farm for my grandfather for the summer.
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- And i made 1,000 for the whole summer,
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- $350 or just less than that.
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- And i came to sunday school in my sunday school class,
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- And i put in $135 check.
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- And i've tithed on like everything i've made
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- 'cause my dad taught me that.
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- And did you know what?
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- God says this in malachi 3.
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- He said, "bring the tithe to the storehouse and prove me
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- And see if i won't pour you out a blessing that is so big
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- That you don't even have enough room to receive it."
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- And i can tell you, mom and i not only tithe,
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- We don't legalistically tithe, we give
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- As we feel the lord wants us to,
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- But we have never limited god at 10% in our giving.
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- In fact, mom and i have been married for 40 years,
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- And we've worked, and of all our working wages,
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- We've given about 30% over the last 40 years.
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- And our net worth is about five times,
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- About over three times of all the money
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- That we've made in 40 years.
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- And there's only one way that you can explain that.
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- And that is that god got involved in our finances.
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- And god has blessed us.
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- You know, the bible says in proverbs 10:22,
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- "it's the blessing of the lord that makes rich,
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- And he now adds no sorrow with it."
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- But that's just a mentality that comes from the world.
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- - if you think like the world,
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- You're gonna look like the world,
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- You're gonna have the world's results.
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- You know, and this kid,
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- He's just kinda thanking like the world, like,
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- And if you give, you're gonna go broke.
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- And i'll have this to say, you know, in 2023,
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- My wife really stretched me to give big.
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- We gave over $50,000 to churches and ministries in 2023.
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- But we have $1 million house that's paid off.
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- We have, you know, a half a million dollars
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- In our retirement.
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- We are mega, mega, mega blessed.
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- - [lawson] yes.
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- - and that year, we gave away a significant portion
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- Of our income, of our finances
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- But god takes care of things.
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- You know, and if you wanna just think like the world,
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- Your life is gonna look like the world.
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- You know, most people are in debt.
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- Most people live paycheck to paycheck mode, you know,
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- But you need to start thinking different.
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- You need to start believing the bible.
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- The bible is very different from what the world says.
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- The bible is complete truth.
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- That there is lots of deception in the world.
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- You can, you know, think like the world,
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- Be like the world like, but, you know.
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- - in this realm of giving, here's an example.
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- Proverbs 11:24-25.
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- Now proverbs are just practical principles.
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- They work for sinners, they work for saints,
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- They work for people that live on this planet.
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- And it says, "there is seed who scatters,
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- There is seed who gives."
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- It's talking about sowing and yet increases.
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- "there is see who withholds more than he should
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- And it tends to poverty.
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- He who blesses others shall be blessed."
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- That scripture, you know, i've lived that out.
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- And i don't give as a debt that i owe,
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- I give as a seed that i sow.
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- And no matter whether i'm giving a tithe,
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- Which is 1/10th right?
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- Whether i'm giving a offering which is above 10%,
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- Whether i'm giving alms to the poor,
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- Or whether i'm giving first fruit, whatever i'm given,
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- Whatever way i'm given, whatever type of offering i'm given,
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- I try to do all my giving with the mentality of a solar.
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- I grew up on the farm.
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- And did you know what?
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- It comes back to me.
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- Dr. lester sumrall said something one time.
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- He didn't receive a salary.
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- He was a pastor of a huge church,
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- But he didn't receive a salary.
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- And i saw him get up one time and he opened his wallet
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- And there wasn't anything off.
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- He was receiving the offering.
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- There wasn't anything in it to put in the envelope.
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- So he went down to one of his elders
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- And he said, "hey, loan me some money."
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- The elder gave him some money,
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- Whatever it was, he stuck it in below in the envelope,
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- Wrote his name on it, and put it in the offering.
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- And he said, "i sow in every offering."
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- And he said, "the reason i sow in every offering
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- Is because i always need harvest.
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- And since i always need harvest, i'm always sowing."
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- And you know what?
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- We receive harvest all the time.
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- We are so blessed.
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- It is amazing how god blesses.
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- It is amazing how god helps us, amen.
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- But if you get the mentality of a sower, listen,
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- If you get the mentality of a giver, if you start working
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- To give, instead of working to live, did you know what?
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- Make your goal giving, your living won't be a problem.
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- - and i wanna go back to our scripture from romans 12:1-2.
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- Just talking about how to really be an influence for jesus
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- To really shine bright for jesus.
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- You have to conform to him.
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- His mold never changes.
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- And if you're not really renewing your mind,
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- If you're not going fully after jesus,
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- You're gonna be taking the shape
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- Of what whatever is considered normal in the world
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- At any given time and that mold is always shifting.
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- - yeah, when we talk about renewal of the mind, you know.
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- That word "renewing" in romans 12:2
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- Is the greek word anakainosis.
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- And it means renewal, renovation,
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- A complete change for the better.
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- You know, you've seen us renovate a house.
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- You've seen us take a house that looks like a dump
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- And turn it into a palace.
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- Right?
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- Well, that's what needs to happen in your mind.
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- Your mind needs to be renovated.
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- - and things take constant renovation as well.
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- You know, i'm married.
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- I have, you know, my wife, i have two kids,
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- I have two dogs.
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- You know, we don't just clean things once every 10 years
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- Or fix things once every 10.
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- Like, it takes constant upkeep, constant renewal.
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- And your mind is the same way.
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- You're in a world where there's stuff going on,
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- There's things going on,
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- There's circumstances going on there,
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- There's dirt going on.
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- You have to constantly be renewing your mind.
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- It is an ongoing thing.
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- It's not just a, you know, "i accepted jesus
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- And i'm just gonna do whatever until i die."
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- - no,
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- - it's a daily process.
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- - right.
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- You know, ephesians 4:2-24 says,
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- "put off concerning the former lifestyle, conversation,
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- Behavior, way of living.
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- The old man, which is corrupt, according to deceitful us."
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- Verse 23 says, "and be renewed in the spirit of your mind."
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- Now, that's not talking about your spirit,
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- That's talking about your attitude.
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- The way you think, the way you look at it, you know.
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- And he says, "and put on the new man, which in the likeness
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- Of god is created in righteousness and true holiness."
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- Your spiritual man, when you're born again,
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- Is created in right standing with god in true holiness.
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- True holiness isn't all these things you do
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- To the outward man, it's a condition of the spirit of man.
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- But when you renew your mind to who god says you are,
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- You'll begin to put off the old man
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- And people begin to see jesus in your life.
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- Right?
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- Now, if we go back here to romans 12,
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- Where we were, he says, "be transformed by the renewing,
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- By the renovation of your mind,
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- By the complete change of the better.
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- By the way you think, by the way you process information
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- That you may prove, that you may live out,
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- That you may demonstrate
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- Or walk out what is the good, the acceptable
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- And perfect will of god."
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- God has a good will, he has an acceptable will.
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- He has a perfect will.
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- But you're not gonna get it if you just think
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- You just got saved and it's just gonna happen automatically
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- Because it doesn't happen automatic.
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- - and i have this to say too,
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- If you are not being transformed,
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- Renewing your mind, you are probably conforming
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- To things you shouldn't be.
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- - right.
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- That's right. amen.
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- You know, we just had a minister
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- Of the gospel at caleb moran,
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- A great minister of the gospel.
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- He's from louisiana.
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- But he talked about how, you know,
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- His parents had been divorced
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- And then remarried, brought their families together.
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- But he said his background was, you know,
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- Their background was drugging, drinking, you know,
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- Just all these problems.
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- - mental health issues.
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- - yeah, and they just decided
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- That they wanted a better life.
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- - we're gonna break the mold.
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- - yeah, and they started going to church
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- And taking their kids to church.
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- And they found out about the grace of god,
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- And they found out about the baptism of the holy spirit and,
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- And faith, and how that changed your life.
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- And you know what he said?
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- Then i'm married into a family
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- That's, you know, all their family are missionaries
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- And prophets and evangelists and pastors.
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- He said, you know,
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- "i have a completely different lifestyle,
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- But a lot of it's due to the decision that my parents made."
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- In other words, we decided
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- That we're not gonna be meth heads.
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- That we're not gonna let drugs and alcohol
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- And divorce, you know, just rule our life.
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- But we're gonna begin to live by the word of god.
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- If you've been divorced
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- Or if you're on drugs, god loves you.
- 00:11:37.372 --> 00:11:39.541
- But you don't have to stay in that situation,
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- You can make a change.
- 00:11:42.544 --> 00:11:44.346
- - that's true.
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- You wanna go to ephesians 4?
- 00:11:45.680 --> 00:11:47.482
- - yeah, i was there.
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- So, you know, that word renewal
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- Means a complete change for the better.
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- So he says right here, he says,
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- "that we can prove the good, acceptable,
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- And perfect will of god."
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- Now you have in your teaching that we begin to do that
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- You know, once we renew our mind in the word
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- Of god, through the gifts of god.
- 00:12:05.167 --> 00:12:07.903
- You know, and the giftings of god.
- 00:12:07.903 --> 00:12:09.337
- And they're really different types of gifts, right?
- 00:12:09.337 --> 00:12:12.207
- Ephesians 4 talks about ministry gifts.
- 00:12:12.207 --> 00:12:14.543
- - well, and this is what god showed me too about that.
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- When you go after jesus and,
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- And you don't wanna be conformed to this world,
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- You'll actually be more uniquely you.
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- 'cause you're created in his image.
- 00:12:24.920 --> 00:12:26.822
- So when you're conforming to jesus, not conformed
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- To this world, you're actually gonna be more uniquely you.
- 00:12:29.758 --> 00:12:32.327
- If you're just, you know,
- 00:12:32.327 --> 00:12:35.163
- Just being like the world, you're not gonna be unique.
- 00:12:35.163 --> 00:12:38.767
- Your life's not gonna look unique.
- 00:12:38.767 --> 00:12:40.468
- The patterns, the things that happen,
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- It's not gonna be unique.
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- It's just gonna be...
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- - right.
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- Right, so you need to be like god wants you to be,
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- And you do that by understanding what the word says
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- And living by the word of god.
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- But you also do that through the empowerment
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- Of the holy spirit, the empowerment of the gifts, right?
- 00:13:24.212 --> 00:13:28.283
- And in romans 12, you've got these verses
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- In verse three through verse eight that really talk about
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- The motivational gifts.
- 00:13:34.456 --> 00:13:36.591
- So the scripture talks about ephesians 4,
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- Where we were the ministry gifts,
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- And it says, "god gave some," right?
- 00:13:41.329 --> 00:13:43.965
- And there's five of them
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- Given by the lord jesus christ of the church.
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- Some, not everybody's a minister.
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- Not a fivefold, not a public preaching
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- And teaching minister, but we're all ministers
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- According to 1 peter 4:10.
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- Then we have the manifestations of the holy spirit.
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- And there's nine of those,
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- Those are in one corinthians 12, right?
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- So when you're born again
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- And baptizing the holy spirit, then you ought
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- To be operating, god has given you at least one,
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- If not several, of these manifestations of the holy spirit.
- 00:14:10.025 --> 00:14:13.695
- But here in romans 12:3-8, all right?
- 00:14:13.695 --> 00:14:18.667
- These are motivational gifts.
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- - these are who you are.
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- - right?.
- 00:14:21.770 --> 00:14:23.238
- I believe, now this is my opinion, i could be wrong,
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- But i believe these motivational gifts
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- Are like personality traits,
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- And there's seven of them, right?
- 00:14:30.278 --> 00:14:32.580
- And i believe it's the way god made you,
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- Your personality, your gifting,
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- So that you can be a success in the world.
- 00:14:37.385 --> 00:14:39.621
- And i believe that you're born with these.
- 00:14:39.621 --> 00:14:41.523
- - yeah, and this is why i want to connect romans 12:3-8
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- With verses one and two,
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- Because when you don't conform to the world,
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- You're gonna be who you uniquely are, right?
- 00:14:49.197 --> 00:14:52.267
- And that's what this is saying in context, right?
- 00:14:52.267 --> 00:14:54.336
- I've heard these things taught separate for years and years,
- 00:14:54.336 --> 00:14:56.838
- But i wanna bring them together.
- 00:14:56.838 --> 00:14:58.006
- - [lawson] that's awesome.
- 00:14:58.006 --> 00:14:59.607
- - because when you're not just being conformed to the world,
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- When you're really, "hey, i'm gonna lay down my life
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- And go after jesus,"
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- You're gonna see who you really are.
- 00:15:06.681 --> 00:15:09.017
- You're gonna be shaped into who you really are.
- 00:15:09.017 --> 00:15:12.787
- You're gonna find these giftings within yourself,
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- And some of you might maybe haven't even discovered
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- Some of these gifts that you have.
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- Like, you might have gifts of mercy, you might have gifts
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- Of giving, you might have gifts of serving.
- 00:15:21.596 --> 00:15:24.232
- But when you're really going after jesus,
- 00:15:24.232 --> 00:15:25.700
- You're gonna find these things.
- 00:15:25.700 --> 00:15:27.202
- If you're not going after jesus, you're not gonna realize,
- 00:15:27.202 --> 00:15:28.803
- "man, i love serving," 'cause you've never been to church.
- 00:15:28.803 --> 00:15:31.740
- Because you're just being like the world
- 00:15:31.740 --> 00:15:32.974
- And i'm just gonna sleep in on sundays.
- 00:15:32.974 --> 00:15:34.609
- But when you're really going after jesus, you're gonna find,
- 00:15:34.609 --> 00:15:37.112
- "hey, i'm actually gifted.
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- I love giving.
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- I love figuring out how to make money
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- And start businesses so i can really help ministries
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- With big projects."
- 00:15:44.786 --> 00:15:45.987
- When you're really going after jesus,
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- That's when you discover these gifts within you,
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- And it's a grace that's given to you.
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- He says in verse three of romans 12,
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- Or i say, "through the grace given to me,
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- To everyone who's among you,
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- Not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think,
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- But to think soberly as god has dealt
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- To each one a measure of faith."
- 00:16:05.240 --> 00:16:07.008
- So he's saying, don't be really prideful
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- In who you think you are.
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- Just go after jesus
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- For as we have many members in one body,
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- But all the members do not have the same function.
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- So we being many are one body in christ
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- And individually members of one another.
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- So he's saying, we all need each other, right?
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- And it's okay to have different giftings,
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- Different personalities,
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- Different things that people like to do.
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- Not everyone has to do be a teacher in kids church.
- 00:16:30.732 --> 00:16:34.436
- Not everyone has to do youth.
- 00:16:34.436 --> 00:16:36.438
- Not everyone has to, you know, vacuum the carpet.
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- Not everyone has to love to do all these things, right?
- 00:16:39.441 --> 00:16:42.544
- But there are things
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- That god has uniquely placed within you.
- 00:16:43.878 --> 00:16:45.914
- - [lawson] sure.
- 00:16:45.914 --> 00:16:47.315
- - and he kinda talks about some of these things.
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- He says, "we have gifts differing according to the grace
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- That is given to us.
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- Let us use them.
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- If prophecy, let us prophesy in proportion to our faith
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- Or ministry, let us use it in our ministering.
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- He who teaches and teaching, who exhorts
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- And exhortation, he who gives with liberality, he who leads
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- With diligence, he who shows mercy with cheerfulness."
- 00:17:09.871 --> 00:17:13.007
- So he's just saying
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- That there are different personalities within the body,
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- And that's okay.
- 00:17:17.545 --> 00:17:18.847
- - right, and i agree with that
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- Because i believe these, in romans 12, these giftings.
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- Now, different people might believe different things,
- 00:17:23.918 --> 00:17:26.754
- And it's okay, but i believe these actually
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- Are given by god the father.
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- I believe they're inborn personality traits.
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- And i'll talk about what i think about them
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- In just a minute.
- 00:17:35.663 --> 00:17:37.098
- In 1 corinthians 12, there's nine,
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- I believe those are given by the holy spirit, right?
- 00:17:39.400 --> 00:17:42.137
- They're the gifts of revelation,
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- The gifts of power and the gifts that speak.
- 00:17:45.907 --> 00:17:48.376
- There's three of each of those.
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- And then in ephesians 4, there's five given by jesus.
- 00:17:49.777 --> 00:17:54.015
- So god the father's giving gifts.
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- They're these personality traits.
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- They're these inward motivations.
- 00:17:57.785 --> 00:17:59.888
- It's like your makeup, how god made you to be, right?
- 00:17:59.888 --> 00:18:03.491
- The holy spirit gives gifts
- 00:18:03.491 --> 00:18:04.759
- That's about, you know, ministering, right?
- 00:18:04.759 --> 00:18:07.195
- And then jesus gives public preaching and teaching gifts.
- 00:18:07.195 --> 00:18:11.099
- But when we look at these, these personality traits,
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- For instance, i believe somebody
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- Who has this motivational gift of prophecy.
- 00:18:15.637 --> 00:18:18.706
- There's somebody who just sees things black and white.
- 00:18:18.706 --> 00:18:21.442
- There are people that just see that i have a little bit
- 00:18:21.442 --> 00:18:23.611
- Of that working in me, right?
- 00:18:23.611 --> 00:18:26.047
- And then he says,
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- And you can have more than one of these gifts.
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- And they could be in different measures.
- 00:18:29.751 --> 00:18:33.054
- And then he says, "ministry," that's,
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- And one translation says, serving.
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- I see a hand.
- 00:18:37.192 --> 00:18:38.660
- Like there are people that are just gifted servants.
- 00:18:38.660 --> 00:18:40.295
- They're get it done, people, right?
- 00:18:40.295 --> 00:18:42.230
- I have a person that's worked for me for several years
- 00:18:42.230 --> 00:18:44.866
- And they just get stuff done.
- 00:18:44.866 --> 00:18:46.334
- That's their gift, right?
- 00:18:46.334 --> 00:18:48.169
- Then there's people who, you know or teaching.
- 00:18:48.169 --> 00:18:51.072
- Now a person who has,
- 00:18:51.072 --> 00:18:52.440
- I had a high school teacher that i don't know
- 00:18:52.440 --> 00:18:54.976
- That this teacher even knew jesus as her lord,
- 00:18:54.976 --> 00:18:57.545
- But she had a gift to teach.
- 00:18:57.545 --> 00:18:59.414
- It was evident to me.
- 00:18:59.414 --> 00:19:00.915
- She could teach math like nobody's business, right?
- 00:19:00.915 --> 00:19:04.852
- Any type of it.
- 00:19:04.852 --> 00:19:06.321
- And, you know, it was evident to me she had to give.
- 00:19:06.321 --> 00:19:09.224
- So i see like a teacher, right?
- 00:19:09.224 --> 00:19:12.427
- I see like, you know,
- 00:19:12.427 --> 00:19:13.995
- Like the little finger going into the ear.
- 00:19:13.995 --> 00:19:15.563
- If somebody says the word in the christian circle
- 00:19:15.563 --> 00:19:18.333
- Will say, "what's the word say about it?"
- 00:19:18.333 --> 00:19:20.134
- That's a teaching or exhorting, right?
- 00:19:20.134 --> 00:19:23.137
- Your mom's an exhorter.
- 00:19:23.137 --> 00:19:24.339
- That's people that encourage, right?
- 00:19:24.339 --> 00:19:26.074
- That's just what they come by naturally.
- 00:19:26.074 --> 00:19:28.309
- Or him who gives, i have a little bit of that work in it.
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- People who have a god-given gift
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- To give look differently at money.
- 00:19:32.880 --> 00:19:35.383
- Most people that know them if they're in the ministry,
- 00:19:35.383 --> 00:19:37.852
- They say, "well, all they do is talk about money."
- 00:19:37.852 --> 00:19:39.520
- I get accused of that.
- 00:19:39.520 --> 00:19:40.855
- But yet we give, right?
- 00:19:40.855 --> 00:19:43.091
- We've given millions of dollars
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- To ministries all around the world.
- 00:19:45.226 --> 00:19:47.362
- We build churches, we help missionaries.
- 00:19:47.362 --> 00:19:49.264
- We help, you know, television ministries,
- 00:19:49.264 --> 00:19:52.567
- We help all kinds of people, right?
- 00:19:52.567 --> 00:19:54.402
- Right?
- 00:19:54.402 --> 00:19:55.303
- That's part of what we do.
- 00:19:55.303 --> 00:19:56.404
- That's part of our gifting, right?
- 00:19:56.404 --> 00:19:57.972
- That rules, that's talking about administration.
- 00:19:57.972 --> 00:20:01.009
- I have people, i'm not gifted as administrator,
- 00:20:01.009 --> 00:20:04.312
- But i have people work around me that have gifts
- 00:20:04.312 --> 00:20:06.514
- As administrators, and they're able to help other people
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- Get where they wanna go.
- 00:20:09.284 --> 00:20:10.551
- Heath at rules or there's heath at mercy.
- 00:20:10.551 --> 00:20:13.288
- You get a mercy person.
- 00:20:13.288 --> 00:20:14.589
- They're like a big heart.
- 00:20:14.589 --> 00:20:16.124
- "oh, we love you," no matter what they're doing, right?
- 00:20:16.124 --> 00:20:18.126
- You get a prophetic person, they're like,
- 00:20:18.126 --> 00:20:19.594
- "slap that person," right?
- 00:20:19.594 --> 00:20:21.496
- So the exhorters right in the middle.
- 00:20:21.496 --> 00:20:23.998
- Most people love exhorters, right?
- 00:20:23.998 --> 00:20:26.100
- Like people like joel osteen, right?
- 00:20:26.100 --> 00:20:27.935
- 'cause they're encouraging, they got a big smile,
- 00:20:27.935 --> 00:20:30.238
- But you get a prophetic person.
- 00:20:30.238 --> 00:20:32.273
- And we need prophetic people.
- 00:20:32.907 --> 00:20:34.409
- We need mercy people.
- 00:20:34.409 --> 00:20:35.643
- You might get two of those people.
- 00:20:35.643 --> 00:20:36.844
- They might look at things different.
- 00:20:36.844 --> 00:20:38.446
- You might get a teacher and a giver together.
- 00:20:38.446 --> 00:20:40.782
- They might look at things different.
- 00:20:40.782 --> 00:20:42.383
- But you know what?
- 00:20:42.383 --> 00:20:43.618
- We need them all to, we need them all.
- 00:20:43.618 --> 00:20:44.986
- And we need them all working.
- 00:20:44.986 --> 00:20:46.587
- - and this is good to know too,
- 00:20:46.587 --> 00:20:48.022
- Because don't let someone's difference offend you.
- 00:20:48.022 --> 00:20:50.591
- - no, we need people that are different.
- 00:20:50.591 --> 00:20:52.894
- - you know, i'm a little bit,
- 00:20:52.894 --> 00:20:54.228
- My wife and i are opposite in some regards.
- 00:20:54.228 --> 00:20:56.998
- I'm a little bit more prophetic,
- 00:20:56.998 --> 00:20:58.099
- A little bit more black and white.
- 00:20:58.099 --> 00:20:59.067
- And she's very mercy-oriented.
- 00:20:59.067 --> 00:21:01.569
- You know, if she sees a homeless person,
- 00:21:01.569 --> 00:21:02.937
- She wants to give them 20 bucks.
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- I don't want to, i wanna say, "hey, get a job."
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- But you know, it's okay.
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- So i've had to learn, it's okay if she gives
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- That person 20 bucks.
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- And she has to learn too.
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- It's okay if i'm, you know, give them a pointed word
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- And say, "hey, get a job, get off drugs."
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- Get, you know, well-
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- - i don't go to the shelter. - i don't give them money
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- Because we've had to learn to say it's okay.
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- It is just how we see things.
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- How, you know, even in youth ministry together.
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- We kinda compliment each other.
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- You know, in a recent service,
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- I got off on a little bit black and white, you know?
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- 'cause i saw this group of young men that, you know,
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- In several years, during worship,
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- They never sang a single line of worship to jesus.
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- And i said, "you know what?
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- That's actually not right.
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- And you guys should, should care about jesus
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- And not just about being a ding-dong or something."
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- And heather came right after me
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- And was a little bit more mercy oriented,
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- - and we need different gifts.
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- Now, when i say that,
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- I was around christmas time over on the west side
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- Of colorado springs and a bunch of homeless people
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- Came into a wendy's.
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- And i bought about seven meals for homeless people.
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- I'll buy them food.
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- I'll give to ministries
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- That help the homeless because they have systems.
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- They're to help them..
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- But i don't generally give them money
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- Because they generally use it to buy drugs or alcohol.
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- They don't use it for good things.
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- So, you know, i know that because i've dealt with them
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- As a pastor in a small community.
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- I was the only pastor that lived there.
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- And i saw a lot of, you know, things.
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- - but some people ha have different things
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- That really inspire them, that they wanna give to.
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- Some people want to give to ministries
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- That really preach the word.
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- Some people want to give to ministries
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- That support orphanages.
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- These are all great things that are doing it all of christ.
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- Yeah, you can do it all.
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- Some people are more inspired for different things
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- Because it's just who they are,
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- Who god created them to be.
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- - right, it's part of their gifts.
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- - and you shouldn't be offended by it.
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- - no, what you need to do is begin to understand your gifts,
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- But then you need to begin to see other gifts.
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- You know, for a period when we started this ministry,
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- You know, i've always used different personalities,
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- But people i hired were more the get it done people.
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- But now, you know, they're more the servant people
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- 'cause i needed those.
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- I still need servants.
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- But now in my main positions, i've got more administrative
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- - you need people who can build teams?
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- - because yeah, because they, it's not on,
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- They might not look like they're a ball of fire,
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- But you know what?
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- They can get people to get that job done
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- And figure it out and figure out systems
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- And get it done much more efficiently
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- And effectively than i can.
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- So we all need different gifts around us.
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- It helps us to do what god called us to do.
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- - and you really discover these gifts,
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- Some of these gifts,
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- You might not even really discovered yourself.
- 00:23:43.498 --> 00:23:45.066
- I know people who've gone in this church, like coming here,
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- Really going after jesus, really being in the word.
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- They kind of discovered, "hey,
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- I think i had this gift to give.
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- You know, i'm able to make money.
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- I'm kind of entrepreneurial.
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- You know, and with my background,
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- I always kind of suppressed that
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- Because i was taught that money's bad, you know?
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- And so i've suppressed that.
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- I've never really talked about that.
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- I've never really developed that."
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- These are gifts that you can actually develop and grow in.
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- But when you're really going after jesus
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- And around people who understand these giftings
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- And how they work for the body as a whole,
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- Like, we need people who are prophetic.
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- We need people who are merciful.
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- We need people who are administrative.
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- We need people who just do things themself.
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- We need all these types of people.
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- - we need every gifting working in the body
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- Because we're members of one another.
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- And the whole body will be built up.
- 00:24:34.448 --> 00:24:35.950
- In fact, i have a great teaching on our website.
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- It's called gifts, gifts and more gifts.
- 00:24:39.186 --> 00:24:41.122
- And it's downloadable audio.
- 00:24:41.122 --> 00:24:42.790
- We may have downloadable video of it,
- 00:24:42.790 --> 00:24:44.892
- But for sure, downloadable audio, it explains all these.
- 00:24:44.892 --> 00:24:48.596
- And so we actually have hundreds of hours
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- Of teachings on these
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- And many other things that you can get free of charge
- 00:24:52.133 --> 00:24:55.102
- On our website at charischristiancenter.com.
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- We give them free.
- 00:24:58.806 --> 00:25:00.074
- It's costing us hundreds of thousands of dollars
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- To develop this, but you should check it out
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- And it'll help you grow into what god has for you.
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- - amen.
- 00:25:07.381 --> 00:25:08.349
- And this is a great ministry.
- 00:25:08.349 --> 00:25:09.784
- You know, several years ago, i've been here as a part
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- Of the ministry on staff as a pastor here for nine years.
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- But a few years before i moved back
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- And became on staff, i actually started tithing here.
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- Because this is really where i felt
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- I was being fed and growing,
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- Even though i was living outta state.
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- But when i started tithing here, my finances grew
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- And i knew they grew because this is good ground.
- 00:25:29.203 --> 00:25:31.405
- So if you really receive from this ministry,
- 00:25:31.405 --> 00:25:34.275
- If it helps you grow, i'd encourage you to give back
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- To plant seed here.
- 00:25:36.811 --> 00:25:38.045
- And i believe it's gonna come back to you.
- 00:25:38.045 --> 00:25:39.447
- Jesus said, when you give, it's gonna come back.
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- Good measure, press down, shaken together and running over.
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- So if you'd like to give, give us a call.
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- You can also go to our website to do that.
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- God loves you.
- 00:25:48.422 --> 00:25:49.457
- Hope to see you again very soon.
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