Lawson Perdue - Jesus Influencers (Part 8)

June 4, 2025 | S25:E2304

Pastor Lawson Perdue from the Charis Christian Center outreach speaks to viewers across the globe about the practical message of Jesus Christ

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Grace for Today with Lawson Perdue | Lawson Perdue - Jesus Influencers (Part 8) | June 4, 2025
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  • - praise the lord, friends, and welcome to the broadcast.
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  • I am so glad that you're here today.
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  • We're gonna be sharing today about different types of gifts
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  • That are operating in the body of christ
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  • And how we need different kinds of gifts, number one,
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  • So we can fulfill what god called us to do.
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  • But number two, so that we can be a part of god's body
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  • And be effective in our life here on this earth.
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  • Stay tuned.
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  • Friends, i'm so glad that you're with us.
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  • We're sharing on being a jesus influencer,
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  • And you have some great teaching.
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  • We talked about how we have to become followers of jesus.
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  • And now we've been talking about, you know,
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  • Not being conformed to the world.
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  • But how does that happen?
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  • - well, first of all, you have to not be afraid
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  • To be different.
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  • You know, if you're really sold out to jesus,
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  • Your life is gonna look different.
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  • And that's something all of us
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  • Need to just settle in our heart.
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  • You know, i'm not gonna be different.
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  • My finances aren't gonna be the same as everyone else's.
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  • - amen.
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  • - and the way i look at finances,
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  • It's not gonna be the same as everyone else's.
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  • - amen.
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  • - my relationships aren't gonna be, you know,
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  • My marriage is not gonna be the same as everyone else's.
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  • However you work, it's not gonna be the same.
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  • My attitude, it's not gonna be the same as everyone else's.
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  • Yeah, like the bible, it's very different.
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  • I actually found a little note, we asked a lot
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  • Of the youth at our church to take notes,
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  • But one youth, he was just trying to be silly,
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  • But left his note card with his notes.
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  • And he was taking notes during the offering talk,
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  • But then he just said, "this is why people are broke
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  • Because they give to church."
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  • And that's a very normal worldly thought.
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  • And that offering outta the 40 students there,
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  • There was only $6 in the offering.
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  • It was actually a really, you know, i'm like,
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  • None of these kids are broke from giving to, you know,
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  • On a wednesday night at youth.
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  • Like if they're broke
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  • And if they're gonna be broke later in life,
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  • That kid's broke.
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  • You know, it's not gonna be the church's fault.
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  • - before i got baptized in the holy spirit, my dad taught me
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  • To tithe when i was like four years old.
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  • So when i was 13, i got my first paycheck
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  • And i was making between $1 and $3 an hour working
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  • On the farm for my grandfather for the summer.
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  • And i made 1,000 for the whole summer,
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  • $350 or just less than that.
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  • And i came to sunday school in my sunday school class,
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  • And i put in $135 check.
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  • And i've tithed on like everything i've made
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  • 'cause my dad taught me that.
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  • And did you know what?
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  • God says this in malachi 3.
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  • He said, "bring the tithe to the storehouse and prove me
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  • And see if i won't pour you out a blessing that is so big
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  • That you don't even have enough room to receive it."
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  • And i can tell you, mom and i not only tithe,
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  • We don't legalistically tithe, we give
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  • As we feel the lord wants us to,
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  • But we have never limited god at 10% in our giving.
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  • In fact, mom and i have been married for 40 years,
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  • And we've worked, and of all our working wages,
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  • We've given about 30% over the last 40 years.
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  • And our net worth is about five times,
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  • About over three times of all the money
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  • That we've made in 40 years.
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  • And there's only one way that you can explain that.
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  • And that is that god got involved in our finances.
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  • And god has blessed us.
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  • You know, the bible says in proverbs 10:22,
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  • "it's the blessing of the lord that makes rich,
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  • And he now adds no sorrow with it."
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  • But that's just a mentality that comes from the world.
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  • - if you think like the world,
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  • You're gonna look like the world,
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  • You're gonna have the world's results.
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  • You know, and this kid,
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  • He's just kinda thanking like the world, like,
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  • And if you give, you're gonna go broke.
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  • And i'll have this to say, you know, in 2023,
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  • My wife really stretched me to give big.
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  • We gave over $50,000 to churches and ministries in 2023.
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  • But we have $1 million house that's paid off.
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  • We have, you know, a half a million dollars
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  • In our retirement.
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  • We are mega, mega, mega blessed.
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  • - [lawson] yes.
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  • - and that year, we gave away a significant portion
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  • Of our income, of our finances
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  • But god takes care of things.
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  • You know, and if you wanna just think like the world,
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  • Your life is gonna look like the world.
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  • You know, most people are in debt.
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  • Most people live paycheck to paycheck mode, you know,
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  • But you need to start thinking different.
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  • You need to start believing the bible.
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  • The bible is very different from what the world says.
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  • The bible is complete truth.
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  • That there is lots of deception in the world.
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  • You can, you know, think like the world,
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  • Be like the world like, but, you know.
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  • - in this realm of giving, here's an example.
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  • Proverbs 11:24-25.
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  • Now proverbs are just practical principles.
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  • They work for sinners, they work for saints,
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  • They work for people that live on this planet.
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  • And it says, "there is seed who scatters,
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  • There is seed who gives."
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  • It's talking about sowing and yet increases.
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  • "there is see who withholds more than he should
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  • And it tends to poverty.
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  • He who blesses others shall be blessed."
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  • That scripture, you know, i've lived that out.
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  • And i don't give as a debt that i owe,
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  • I give as a seed that i sow.
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  • And no matter whether i'm giving a tithe,
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  • Which is 1/10th right?
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  • Whether i'm giving a offering which is above 10%,
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  • Whether i'm giving alms to the poor,
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  • Or whether i'm giving first fruit, whatever i'm given,
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  • Whatever way i'm given, whatever type of offering i'm given,
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  • I try to do all my giving with the mentality of a solar.
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  • I grew up on the farm.
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  • And did you know what?
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  • It comes back to me.
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  • Dr. lester sumrall said something one time.
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  • He didn't receive a salary.
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  • He was a pastor of a huge church,
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  • But he didn't receive a salary.
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  • And i saw him get up one time and he opened his wallet
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  • And there wasn't anything off.
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  • He was receiving the offering.
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  • There wasn't anything in it to put in the envelope.
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  • So he went down to one of his elders
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  • And he said, "hey, loan me some money."
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  • The elder gave him some money,
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  • Whatever it was, he stuck it in below in the envelope,
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  • Wrote his name on it, and put it in the offering.
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  • And he said, "i sow in every offering."
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  • And he said, "the reason i sow in every offering
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  • Is because i always need harvest.
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  • And since i always need harvest, i'm always sowing."
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  • And you know what?
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  • We receive harvest all the time.
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  • We are so blessed.
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  • It is amazing how god blesses.
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  • It is amazing how god helps us, amen.
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  • But if you get the mentality of a sower, listen,
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  • If you get the mentality of a giver, if you start working
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  • To give, instead of working to live, did you know what?
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  • Make your goal giving, your living won't be a problem.
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  • - and i wanna go back to our scripture from romans 12:1-2.
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  • Just talking about how to really be an influence for jesus
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  • To really shine bright for jesus.
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  • You have to conform to him.
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  • His mold never changes.
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  • And if you're not really renewing your mind,
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  • If you're not going fully after jesus,
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  • You're gonna be taking the shape
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  • Of what whatever is considered normal in the world
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  • At any given time and that mold is always shifting.
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  • - yeah, when we talk about renewal of the mind, you know.
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  • That word "renewing" in romans 12:2
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  • Is the greek word anakainosis.
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  • And it means renewal, renovation,
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  • A complete change for the better.
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  • You know, you've seen us renovate a house.
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  • You've seen us take a house that looks like a dump
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  • And turn it into a palace.
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  • Right?
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  • Well, that's what needs to happen in your mind.
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  • Your mind needs to be renovated.
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  • - and things take constant renovation as well.
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  • You know, i'm married.
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  • I have, you know, my wife, i have two kids,
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  • I have two dogs.
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  • You know, we don't just clean things once every 10 years
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  • Or fix things once every 10.
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  • Like, it takes constant upkeep, constant renewal.
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  • And your mind is the same way.
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  • You're in a world where there's stuff going on,
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  • There's things going on,
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  • There's circumstances going on there,
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  • There's dirt going on.
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  • You have to constantly be renewing your mind.
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  • It is an ongoing thing.
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  • It's not just a, you know, "i accepted jesus
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  • And i'm just gonna do whatever until i die."
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  • - no,
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  • - it's a daily process.
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  • - right.
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  • You know, ephesians 4:2-24 says,
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  • "put off concerning the former lifestyle, conversation,
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  • Behavior, way of living.
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  • The old man, which is corrupt, according to deceitful us."
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  • Verse 23 says, "and be renewed in the spirit of your mind."
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  • Now, that's not talking about your spirit,
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  • That's talking about your attitude.
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  • The way you think, the way you look at it, you know.
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  • And he says, "and put on the new man, which in the likeness
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  • Of god is created in righteousness and true holiness."
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  • Your spiritual man, when you're born again,
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  • Is created in right standing with god in true holiness.
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  • True holiness isn't all these things you do
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  • To the outward man, it's a condition of the spirit of man.
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  • But when you renew your mind to who god says you are,
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  • You'll begin to put off the old man
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  • And people begin to see jesus in your life.
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  • Right?
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  • Now, if we go back here to romans 12,
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  • Where we were, he says, "be transformed by the renewing,
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  • By the renovation of your mind,
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  • By the complete change of the better.
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  • By the way you think, by the way you process information
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  • That you may prove, that you may live out,
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  • That you may demonstrate
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  • Or walk out what is the good, the acceptable
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  • And perfect will of god."
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  • God has a good will, he has an acceptable will.
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  • He has a perfect will.
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  • But you're not gonna get it if you just think
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  • You just got saved and it's just gonna happen automatically
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  • Because it doesn't happen automatic.
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  • - and i have this to say too,
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  • If you are not being transformed,
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  • Renewing your mind, you are probably conforming
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  • To things you shouldn't be.
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  • - right.
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  • That's right. amen.
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  • You know, we just had a minister
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  • Of the gospel at caleb moran,
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  • A great minister of the gospel.
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  • He's from louisiana.
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  • But he talked about how, you know,
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  • His parents had been divorced
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  • And then remarried, brought their families together.
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  • But he said his background was, you know,
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  • Their background was drugging, drinking, you know,
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  • Just all these problems.
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  • - mental health issues.
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  • - yeah, and they just decided
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  • That they wanted a better life.
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  • - we're gonna break the mold.
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  • - yeah, and they started going to church
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  • And taking their kids to church.
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  • And they found out about the grace of god,
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  • And they found out about the baptism of the holy spirit and,
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  • And faith, and how that changed your life.
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  • And you know what he said?
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  • Then i'm married into a family
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  • That's, you know, all their family are missionaries
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  • And prophets and evangelists and pastors.
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  • He said, you know,
  • 00:11:16.651 --> 00:11:18.553
  • "i have a completely different lifestyle,
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  • But a lot of it's due to the decision that my parents made."
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  • In other words, we decided
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  • That we're not gonna be meth heads.
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  • That we're not gonna let drugs and alcohol
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  • And divorce, you know, just rule our life.
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  • But we're gonna begin to live by the word of god.
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  • If you've been divorced
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  • Or if you're on drugs, god loves you.
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  • But you don't have to stay in that situation,
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  • You can make a change.
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  • - that's true.
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  • You wanna go to ephesians 4?
  • 00:11:45.680 --> 00:11:47.482
  • - yeah, i was there.
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  • So, you know, that word renewal
  • 00:11:48.950 --> 00:11:50.886
  • Means a complete change for the better.
  • 00:11:50.886 --> 00:11:53.188
  • So he says right here, he says,
  • 00:11:53.188 --> 00:11:55.690
  • "that we can prove the good, acceptable,
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  • And perfect will of god."
  • 00:11:57.726 --> 00:11:59.194
  • Now you have in your teaching that we begin to do that
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  • You know, once we renew our mind in the word
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  • Of god, through the gifts of god.
  • 00:12:05.167 --> 00:12:07.903
  • You know, and the giftings of god.
  • 00:12:07.903 --> 00:12:09.337
  • And they're really different types of gifts, right?
  • 00:12:09.337 --> 00:12:12.207
  • Ephesians 4 talks about ministry gifts.
  • 00:12:12.207 --> 00:12:14.543
  • - well, and this is what god showed me too about that.
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  • When you go after jesus and,
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  • And you don't wanna be conformed to this world,
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  • You'll actually be more uniquely you.
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  • 'cause you're created in his image.
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  • So when you're conforming to jesus, not conformed
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  • To this world, you're actually gonna be more uniquely you.
  • 00:12:29.758 --> 00:12:32.327
  • If you're just, you know,
  • 00:12:32.327 --> 00:12:35.163
  • Just being like the world, you're not gonna be unique.
  • 00:12:35.163 --> 00:12:38.767
  • Your life's not gonna look unique.
  • 00:12:38.767 --> 00:12:40.468
  • The patterns, the things that happen,
  • 00:12:40.468 --> 00:12:42.971
  • It's not gonna be unique.
  • 00:12:42.971 --> 00:12:44.206
  • It's just gonna be...
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  • - right.
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  • Right, so you need to be like god wants you to be,
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  • And you do that by understanding what the word says
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  • And living by the word of god.
  • 00:13:19.808 --> 00:13:21.343
  • But you also do that through the empowerment
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  • Of the holy spirit, the empowerment of the gifts, right?
  • 00:13:24.212 --> 00:13:28.283
  • And in romans 12, you've got these verses
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  • In verse three through verse eight that really talk about
  • 00:13:30.886 --> 00:13:34.456
  • The motivational gifts.
  • 00:13:34.456 --> 00:13:36.591
  • So the scripture talks about ephesians 4,
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  • Where we were the ministry gifts,
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  • And it says, "god gave some," right?
  • 00:13:41.329 --> 00:13:43.965
  • And there's five of them
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  • Given by the lord jesus christ of the church.
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  • Some, not everybody's a minister.
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  • Not a fivefold, not a public preaching
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  • And teaching minister, but we're all ministers
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  • According to 1 peter 4:10.
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  • Then we have the manifestations of the holy spirit.
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  • And there's nine of those,
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  • Those are in one corinthians 12, right?
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  • So when you're born again
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  • And baptizing the holy spirit, then you ought
  • 00:14:04.853 --> 00:14:06.988
  • To be operating, god has given you at least one,
  • 00:14:06.988 --> 00:14:10.025
  • If not several, of these manifestations of the holy spirit.
  • 00:14:10.025 --> 00:14:13.695
  • But here in romans 12:3-8, all right?
  • 00:14:13.695 --> 00:14:18.667
  • These are motivational gifts.
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  • - these are who you are.
  • 00:14:20.535 --> 00:14:21.770
  • - right?.
  • 00:14:21.770 --> 00:14:23.238
  • I believe, now this is my opinion, i could be wrong,
  • 00:14:23.238 --> 00:14:25.774
  • But i believe these motivational gifts
  • 00:14:25.774 --> 00:14:28.009
  • Are like personality traits,
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  • And there's seven of them, right?
  • 00:14:30.278 --> 00:14:32.580
  • And i believe it's the way god made you,
  • 00:14:32.580 --> 00:14:34.883
  • Your personality, your gifting,
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  • So that you can be a success in the world.
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  • And i believe that you're born with these.
  • 00:14:39.621 --> 00:14:41.523
  • - yeah, and this is why i want to connect romans 12:3-8
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  • With verses one and two,
  • 00:14:44.326 --> 00:14:47.362
  • Because when you don't conform to the world,
  • 00:14:47.362 --> 00:14:49.197
  • You're gonna be who you uniquely are, right?
  • 00:14:49.197 --> 00:14:52.267
  • And that's what this is saying in context, right?
  • 00:14:52.267 --> 00:14:54.336
  • I've heard these things taught separate for years and years,
  • 00:14:54.336 --> 00:14:56.838
  • But i wanna bring them together.
  • 00:14:56.838 --> 00:14:58.006
  • - [lawson] that's awesome.
  • 00:14:58.006 --> 00:14:59.607
  • - because when you're not just being conformed to the world,
  • 00:14:59.607 --> 00:15:02.077
  • When you're really, "hey, i'm gonna lay down my life
  • 00:15:02.077 --> 00:15:05.113
  • And go after jesus,"
  • 00:15:05.113 --> 00:15:06.681
  • You're gonna see who you really are.
  • 00:15:06.681 --> 00:15:09.017
  • You're gonna be shaped into who you really are.
  • 00:15:09.017 --> 00:15:12.787
  • You're gonna find these giftings within yourself,
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  • And some of you might maybe haven't even discovered
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  • Some of these gifts that you have.
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  • Like, you might have gifts of mercy, you might have gifts
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  • Of giving, you might have gifts of serving.
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  • But when you're really going after jesus,
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  • You're gonna find these things.
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  • If you're not going after jesus, you're not gonna realize,
  • 00:15:27.202 --> 00:15:28.803
  • "man, i love serving," 'cause you've never been to church.
  • 00:15:28.803 --> 00:15:31.740
  • Because you're just being like the world
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  • And i'm just gonna sleep in on sundays.
  • 00:15:32.974 --> 00:15:34.609
  • But when you're really going after jesus, you're gonna find,
  • 00:15:34.609 --> 00:15:37.112
  • "hey, i'm actually gifted.
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  • I love giving.
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  • I love figuring out how to make money
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  • And start businesses so i can really help ministries
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  • With big projects."
  • 00:15:44.786 --> 00:15:45.987
  • When you're really going after jesus,
  • 00:15:45.987 --> 00:15:48.423
  • That's when you discover these gifts within you,
  • 00:15:48.423 --> 00:15:51.693
  • And it's a grace that's given to you.
  • 00:15:52.460 --> 00:15:54.029
  • He says in verse three of romans 12,
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  • Or i say, "through the grace given to me,
  • 00:15:55.964 --> 00:15:58.566
  • To everyone who's among you,
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  • Not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think,
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  • But to think soberly as god has dealt
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  • To each one a measure of faith."
  • 00:16:05.240 --> 00:16:07.008
  • So he's saying, don't be really prideful
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  • In who you think you are.
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  • Just go after jesus
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  • For as we have many members in one body,
  • 00:16:14.215 --> 00:16:16.184
  • But all the members do not have the same function.
  • 00:16:16.184 --> 00:16:18.553
  • So we being many are one body in christ
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  • And individually members of one another.
  • 00:16:21.089 --> 00:16:23.124
  • So he's saying, we all need each other, right?
  • 00:16:23.124 --> 00:16:25.427
  • And it's okay to have different giftings,
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  • Different personalities,
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  • Different things that people like to do.
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  • Not everyone has to do be a teacher in kids church.
  • 00:16:30.732 --> 00:16:34.436
  • Not everyone has to do youth.
  • 00:16:34.436 --> 00:16:36.438
  • Not everyone has to, you know, vacuum the carpet.
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  • Not everyone has to love to do all these things, right?
  • 00:16:39.441 --> 00:16:42.544
  • But there are things
  • 00:16:42.544 --> 00:16:43.878
  • That god has uniquely placed within you.
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  • - [lawson] sure.
  • 00:16:45.914 --> 00:16:47.315
  • - and he kinda talks about some of these things.
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  • He says, "we have gifts differing according to the grace
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  • That is given to us.
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  • Let us use them.
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  • If prophecy, let us prophesy in proportion to our faith
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  • Or ministry, let us use it in our ministering.
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  • He who teaches and teaching, who exhorts
  • 00:17:03.932 --> 00:17:06.167
  • And exhortation, he who gives with liberality, he who leads
  • 00:17:06.167 --> 00:17:09.871
  • With diligence, he who shows mercy with cheerfulness."
  • 00:17:09.871 --> 00:17:13.007
  • So he's just saying
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  • That there are different personalities within the body,
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  • And that's okay.
  • 00:17:17.545 --> 00:17:18.847
  • - right, and i agree with that
  • 00:17:18.847 --> 00:17:20.682
  • Because i believe these, in romans 12, these giftings.
  • 00:17:20.682 --> 00:17:23.918
  • Now, different people might believe different things,
  • 00:17:23.918 --> 00:17:26.754
  • And it's okay, but i believe these actually
  • 00:17:26.754 --> 00:17:29.224
  • Are given by god the father.
  • 00:17:29.224 --> 00:17:31.192
  • I believe they're inborn personality traits.
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  • And i'll talk about what i think about them
  • 00:17:33.595 --> 00:17:35.663
  • In just a minute.
  • 00:17:35.663 --> 00:17:37.098
  • In 1 corinthians 12, there's nine,
  • 00:17:37.098 --> 00:17:39.400
  • I believe those are given by the holy spirit, right?
  • 00:17:39.400 --> 00:17:42.137
  • They're the gifts of revelation,
  • 00:17:42.137 --> 00:17:45.907
  • The gifts of power and the gifts that speak.
  • 00:17:45.907 --> 00:17:48.376
  • There's three of each of those.
  • 00:17:48.376 --> 00:17:49.777
  • And then in ephesians 4, there's five given by jesus.
  • 00:17:49.777 --> 00:17:54.015
  • So god the father's giving gifts.
  • 00:17:54.015 --> 00:17:55.917
  • They're these personality traits.
  • 00:17:55.917 --> 00:17:57.785
  • They're these inward motivations.
  • 00:17:57.785 --> 00:17:59.888
  • It's like your makeup, how god made you to be, right?
  • 00:17:59.888 --> 00:18:03.491
  • The holy spirit gives gifts
  • 00:18:03.491 --> 00:18:04.759
  • That's about, you know, ministering, right?
  • 00:18:04.759 --> 00:18:07.195
  • And then jesus gives public preaching and teaching gifts.
  • 00:18:07.195 --> 00:18:11.099
  • But when we look at these, these personality traits,
  • 00:18:11.099 --> 00:18:14.169
  • For instance, i believe somebody
  • 00:18:14.169 --> 00:18:15.637
  • Who has this motivational gift of prophecy.
  • 00:18:15.637 --> 00:18:18.706
  • There's somebody who just sees things black and white.
  • 00:18:18.706 --> 00:18:21.442
  • There are people that just see that i have a little bit
  • 00:18:21.442 --> 00:18:23.611
  • Of that working in me, right?
  • 00:18:23.611 --> 00:18:26.047
  • And then he says,
  • 00:18:26.047 --> 00:18:28.082
  • And you can have more than one of these gifts.
  • 00:18:28.082 --> 00:18:29.751
  • And they could be in different measures.
  • 00:18:29.751 --> 00:18:33.054
  • And then he says, "ministry," that's,
  • 00:18:33.054 --> 00:18:35.023
  • And one translation says, serving.
  • 00:18:35.023 --> 00:18:37.192
  • I see a hand.
  • 00:18:37.192 --> 00:18:38.660
  • Like there are people that are just gifted servants.
  • 00:18:38.660 --> 00:18:40.295
  • They're get it done, people, right?
  • 00:18:40.295 --> 00:18:42.230
  • I have a person that's worked for me for several years
  • 00:18:42.230 --> 00:18:44.866
  • And they just get stuff done.
  • 00:18:44.866 --> 00:18:46.334
  • That's their gift, right?
  • 00:18:46.334 --> 00:18:48.169
  • Then there's people who, you know or teaching.
  • 00:18:48.169 --> 00:18:51.072
  • Now a person who has,
  • 00:18:51.072 --> 00:18:52.440
  • I had a high school teacher that i don't know
  • 00:18:52.440 --> 00:18:54.976
  • That this teacher even knew jesus as her lord,
  • 00:18:54.976 --> 00:18:57.545
  • But she had a gift to teach.
  • 00:18:57.545 --> 00:18:59.414
  • It was evident to me.
  • 00:18:59.414 --> 00:19:00.915
  • She could teach math like nobody's business, right?
  • 00:19:00.915 --> 00:19:04.852
  • Any type of it.
  • 00:19:04.852 --> 00:19:06.321
  • And, you know, it was evident to me she had to give.
  • 00:19:06.321 --> 00:19:09.224
  • So i see like a teacher, right?
  • 00:19:09.224 --> 00:19:12.427
  • I see like, you know,
  • 00:19:12.427 --> 00:19:13.995
  • Like the little finger going into the ear.
  • 00:19:13.995 --> 00:19:15.563
  • If somebody says the word in the christian circle
  • 00:19:15.563 --> 00:19:18.333
  • Will say, "what's the word say about it?"
  • 00:19:18.333 --> 00:19:20.134
  • That's a teaching or exhorting, right?
  • 00:19:20.134 --> 00:19:23.137
  • Your mom's an exhorter.
  • 00:19:23.137 --> 00:19:24.339
  • That's people that encourage, right?
  • 00:19:24.339 --> 00:19:26.074
  • That's just what they come by naturally.
  • 00:19:26.074 --> 00:19:28.309
  • Or him who gives, i have a little bit of that work in it.
  • 00:19:28.309 --> 00:19:30.712
  • People who have a god-given gift
  • 00:19:30.712 --> 00:19:32.880
  • To give look differently at money.
  • 00:19:32.880 --> 00:19:35.383
  • Most people that know them if they're in the ministry,
  • 00:19:35.383 --> 00:19:37.852
  • They say, "well, all they do is talk about money."
  • 00:19:37.852 --> 00:19:39.520
  • I get accused of that.
  • 00:19:39.520 --> 00:19:40.855
  • But yet we give, right?
  • 00:19:40.855 --> 00:19:43.091
  • We've given millions of dollars
  • 00:19:43.091 --> 00:19:45.226
  • To ministries all around the world.
  • 00:19:45.226 --> 00:19:47.362
  • We build churches, we help missionaries.
  • 00:19:47.362 --> 00:19:49.264
  • We help, you know, television ministries,
  • 00:19:49.264 --> 00:19:52.567
  • We help all kinds of people, right?
  • 00:19:52.567 --> 00:19:54.402
  • Right?
  • 00:19:54.402 --> 00:19:55.303
  • That's part of what we do.
  • 00:19:55.303 --> 00:19:56.404
  • That's part of our gifting, right?
  • 00:19:56.404 --> 00:19:57.972
  • That rules, that's talking about administration.
  • 00:19:57.972 --> 00:20:01.009
  • I have people, i'm not gifted as administrator,
  • 00:20:01.009 --> 00:20:04.312
  • But i have people work around me that have gifts
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  • As administrators, and they're able to help other people
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  • Get where they wanna go.
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  • Heath at rules or there's heath at mercy.
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  • You get a mercy person.
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  • They're like a big heart.
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  • "oh, we love you," no matter what they're doing, right?
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  • You get a prophetic person, they're like,
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  • "slap that person," right?
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  • So the exhorters right in the middle.
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  • Most people love exhorters, right?
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  • Like people like joel osteen, right?
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  • 'cause they're encouraging, they got a big smile,
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  • But you get a prophetic person.
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  • And we need prophetic people.
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  • We need mercy people.
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  • You might get two of those people.
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  • They might look at things different.
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  • You might get a teacher and a giver together.
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  • They might look at things different.
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  • But you know what?
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  • We need them all to, we need them all.
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  • And we need them all working.
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  • - and this is good to know too,
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  • Because don't let someone's difference offend you.
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  • - no, we need people that are different.
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  • - you know, i'm a little bit,
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  • My wife and i are opposite in some regards.
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  • I'm a little bit more prophetic,
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  • A little bit more black and white.
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  • And she's very mercy-oriented.
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  • You know, if she sees a homeless person,
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  • She wants to give them 20 bucks.
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  • I don't want to, i wanna say, "hey, get a job."
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  • But you know, it's okay.
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  • So i've had to learn, it's okay if she gives
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  • That person 20 bucks.
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  • And she has to learn too.
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  • It's okay if i'm, you know, give them a pointed word
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  • And say, "hey, get a job, get off drugs."
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  • Get, you know, well-
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  • - i don't go to the shelter. - i don't give them money
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  • Because we've had to learn to say it's okay.
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  • It is just how we see things.
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  • How, you know, even in youth ministry together.
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  • We kinda compliment each other.
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  • You know, in a recent service,
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  • I got off on a little bit black and white, you know?
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  • 'cause i saw this group of young men that, you know,
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  • In several years, during worship,
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  • They never sang a single line of worship to jesus.
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  • And i said, "you know what?
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  • That's actually not right.
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  • And you guys should, should care about jesus
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  • And not just about being a ding-dong or something."
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  • And heather came right after me
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  • And was a little bit more mercy oriented,
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  • - and we need different gifts.
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  • Now, when i say that,
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  • I was around christmas time over on the west side
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  • Of colorado springs and a bunch of homeless people
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  • Came into a wendy's.
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  • And i bought about seven meals for homeless people.
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  • I'll buy them food.
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  • I'll give to ministries
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  • That help the homeless because they have systems.
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  • They're to help them..
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  • But i don't generally give them money
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  • Because they generally use it to buy drugs or alcohol.
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  • They don't use it for good things.
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  • So, you know, i know that because i've dealt with them
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  • As a pastor in a small community.
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  • I was the only pastor that lived there.
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  • And i saw a lot of, you know, things.
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  • - but some people ha have different things
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  • That really inspire them, that they wanna give to.
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  • Some people want to give to ministries
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  • That really preach the word.
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  • Some people want to give to ministries
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  • That support orphanages.
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  • These are all great things that are doing it all of christ.
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  • Yeah, you can do it all.
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  • Some people are more inspired for different things
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  • Because it's just who they are,
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  • Who god created them to be.
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  • - right, it's part of their gifts.
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  • - and you shouldn't be offended by it.
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  • - no, what you need to do is begin to understand your gifts,
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  • But then you need to begin to see other gifts.
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  • You know, for a period when we started this ministry,
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  • You know, i've always used different personalities,
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  • But people i hired were more the get it done people.
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  • But now, you know, they're more the servant people
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  • 'cause i needed those.
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  • I still need servants.
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  • But now in my main positions, i've got more administrative
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  • - you need people who can build teams?
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  • - because yeah, because they, it's not on,
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  • They might not look like they're a ball of fire,
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  • But you know what?
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  • They can get people to get that job done
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  • And figure it out and figure out systems
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  • And get it done much more efficiently
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  • And effectively than i can.
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  • So we all need different gifts around us.
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  • It helps us to do what god called us to do.
  • 00:23:37.592 --> 00:23:40.194
  • - and you really discover these gifts,
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  • Some of these gifts,
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  • You might not even really discovered yourself.
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  • I know people who've gone in this church, like coming here,
  • 00:23:45.066 --> 00:23:47.134
  • Really going after jesus, really being in the word.
  • 00:23:47.134 --> 00:23:49.504
  • They kind of discovered, "hey,
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  • I think i had this gift to give.
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  • You know, i'm able to make money.
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  • I'm kind of entrepreneurial.
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  • You know, and with my background,
  • 00:23:57.044 --> 00:23:58.579
  • I always kind of suppressed that
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  • Because i was taught that money's bad, you know?
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  • And so i've suppressed that.
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  • I've never really talked about that.
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  • I've never really developed that."
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  • These are gifts that you can actually develop and grow in.
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  • But when you're really going after jesus
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  • And around people who understand these giftings
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  • And how they work for the body as a whole,
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  • Like, we need people who are prophetic.
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  • We need people who are merciful.
  • 00:24:21.335 --> 00:24:22.870
  • We need people who are administrative.
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  • We need people who just do things themself.
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  • We need all these types of people.
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  • - we need every gifting working in the body
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  • Because we're members of one another.
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  • And the whole body will be built up.
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  • In fact, i have a great teaching on our website.
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  • It's called gifts, gifts and more gifts.
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  • And it's downloadable audio.
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  • We may have downloadable video of it,
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  • But for sure, downloadable audio, it explains all these.
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  • And so we actually have hundreds of hours
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  • And many other things that you can get free of charge
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  • On our website at charischristiancenter.com.
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  • We give them free.
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  • It's costing us hundreds of thousands of dollars
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  • To develop this, but you should check it out
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  • And it'll help you grow into what god has for you.
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  • - amen.
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  • And this is a great ministry.
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  • You know, several years ago, i've been here as a part
  • 00:25:09.784 --> 00:25:12.353
  • Of the ministry on staff as a pastor here for nine years.
  • 00:25:12.353 --> 00:25:15.957
  • But a few years before i moved back
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  • And became on staff, i actually started tithing here.
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  • Because this is really where i felt
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  • I was being fed and growing,
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  • Even though i was living outta state.
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  • But when i started tithing here, my finances grew
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  • And i knew they grew because this is good ground.
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  • So if you really receive from this ministry,
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  • If it helps you grow, i'd encourage you to give back
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  • To plant seed here.
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  • And i believe it's gonna come back to you.
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  • Jesus said, when you give, it's gonna come back.
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  • Good measure, press down, shaken together and running over.
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