Lawson Perdue - Romans 8 (Part 2)

August 19, 2025 | S25 E3403 | 29:55

Pastor Lawson Perdue from the Charis Christian Center outreach speaks to viewers across the globe about the practical message of Jesus Christ

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Grace for Today with Lawson Perdue | Lawson Perdue - Romans 8 (Part 2) | August 19, 2025

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- hey, everyone.
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Thanks so much for tuning in today to the program.
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We're gonna be sharing on romans chapter 8.
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I'm gonna be sharing on my favorite scripture,
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Verse 11, that says,
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"if the spirit of him that raised up jesus from the dead
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Dwell in you, he will quicken your mortal body
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By his spirit that dwells in you."
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And if you don't understand that, you need to understand it.
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It will revolutionize your life.
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Friend, it is so good to have you today,
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And we are right here sharing from romans chapter 8.
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And, you know, there are a lot of people
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That don't understand the true gospel,
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But when you get a revelation of the true gospel,
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It will revolutionize your life.
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You know, i was pastoring for six years
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Before i got a revelation of the true gospel.
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And when i got it, it completely changed how i ministered.
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It completely changed how i, you know,
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Dealt with my family and different things.
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In fact, aaron was about seven years old
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When i got a revelation of the true gospel.
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And my wife...
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He's my oldest son,
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I got two others younger than him, andrew and peter.
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But my wife, barbara, says,
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"you completely changed when you got a revelation of grace.
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And if you wouldn't have got it,"
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She's like, i don't think that, you know,
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Your kids would be serving god
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Like they're serving god today."
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But all you boys have grown up
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And loved jesus and served him.
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And it's great.
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Amen.
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And i was so excited there.
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And i know when you went to college,
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You know, you went to this church, the first one,
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And, you know, that you were kinda trying to go to,
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And it was, like, 28 miles away when you were in pittsburgh.
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And you didn't have a car to get there,
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So had to rely on other students.
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And they only went to church about half the time,
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So it wasn't working out.
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And you talked to an administrator
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And he sent you over to this big church,
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But the first sunday you went, there was this guest speaker.
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And you called me up later that afternoon and you said,
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"this was terrible!"
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And you were talking about, you know,
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How this person was saying that the fear of god
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Will keep you out of sin, but the love of god won't.
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And you said, "that is completely wrong."
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Why don't you talk about that for a minute?
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- yeah, i remember just hearing that message and i remember,
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You know, even how he kinda came up with that idea
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And that's kinda his main message.
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He came up with that idea because he visited a minister
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Who screwed up and was in jail,
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A very famous minister that he looked up to
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Who had a big falling, and he looked up to him.
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So he wanted to go visit him
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And went to jail and talked to him.
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And the this minister asked him, you know,
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"when did you stop loving jesus?"
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And he said,
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"i never stopped loving jesus."
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- oh. - "i stopped, you know,
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Respecting or fearing god."
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So, he kind of based his whole idea off that.
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And, you know, the fear of god is a great thing.
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It's to have a reverence or respect and awe
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To want to honor god, but that goes along
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With loving god as well. - right.
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- and he was actually preaching against the love of god
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And people who focused on the love of god,
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Which is ridiculous, you know.
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You don't preach against the love of god.
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God's love, he is love.
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Like, there's just thousands upon thousands of scriptures
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That talk about how great god's love,
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His grace, his mercy is.
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- yeah. - and when you understand
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That, that actually causes you to want to live right.
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When you really understand grace,
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Grace actually teaches you how to live right.
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That's what paul writes in titus.
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- right. - that grace teaches us
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How to live soberly, how to live-
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Godly. - godly in the midst
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Of an ungodly world. - in the present world.
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- it's grace that does that.
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And just his whole take and his whole ministry,
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It's very legalistic.
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And i could just sense that, and it really bothered me,
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Especially that he would preach against god's love.
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And, you know, i've just seen other things kind stem
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From that same type of thinking,
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And it really goes against who god is.
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You know, i've seen similar thoughts from the same person
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And other people kind of in that camp where like,
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If something bad happens to you,
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It's god trying to refine you.
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Like, god puts you through trials,
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Through the fiery furnace, to refine you,
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To teach you to shape you.
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God is not the author of anything evil, you know.
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He's not the author of sin, he's not the author of sickness.
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You know, we deal with difficult things and difficult people
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Because we're in an imperfect world.
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- right. - people are imperfect
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That they might do dumb things that harm you
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Or you might do dumb things to yourself that harm you,
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Or they're just bad things that happen.
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- i remember, aaron, you called me that afternoon.
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You were a freshman in college,
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You're probably about 18 years old,
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But i remember you called me and you said,
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"hey, dad, this guy was preaching that the fear of god
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Will keep you out of sin, but the love of god won't."
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And you said, "that is completely wrong."
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And you said,
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"because i know that you're my dad and you love me,
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And because of that, i respect you
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And i want to do what you want me to do
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Because i know you know what's best for me."
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And you said, "that's the way it is with the love of god.
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Because i know how much god loves me, i respect him
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And i want to do what he wants me to do."
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And i was actually so excited.
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And the reason i was so excited,
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Because you had a revelation of the true gospel,
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And there are a lot of ministers
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That don't even have this revelation.
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But i shared with you this verse, aaron,
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From 1 john 5:3, and it says,
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"for this is the love of god that we keep his commandments,
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And his commandments are not grievous."
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His commandments are not hard to bear.
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When you love god, you're gonna keep the commandments.
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Keeping the commandments doesn't make you love god.
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You can't keep the commandments
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Without jesus living on the inside of you.
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And it goes on to say this in verse 4, 1 john 5:4,
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"for whatsoever," or we could say,
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"whosoever is born of god overcomes this world.
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And this is the victory that overcomes the world,
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Even our faith."
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And you know, when the scripture says that whatsoever
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Or whosoever is born of god overcomes the world.
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See, a lot of people think that, you know,
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The goal of our christianity is to overcome sin
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And overcome satan,
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And that is not the goal of our christianity.
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The goal of our christianity, paul says,
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Is that we might know him
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And the power of his resurrection
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Being made conformable to his death.
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The goal of christianity isn't to overcome sin and satan.
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You could not overcome sin,
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You could not overcome satan.
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You just can't do it without jesus.
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And so jesus came and he overcame sin
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And overcame satan for us.
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And when we believe on jesus,
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We are made over world overcomers.
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That's what that scripture says in 1 john 5:4,
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"whosoever is born of god overcomes the world."
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The moment that you're born again,
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The moment that jesus takes up residence
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On the inside of you, you are made a world overcomer.
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And this is the victory that overcomes the world,
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Even our faith.
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It's believe in jesus.
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- and faith works by?
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- love. - love.
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- and that scripture, galatians 5:6,
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Talks about in context, it's talking about
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When you understand the grace of god,
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When you understand the love of god,
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It's gonna cause your faith to work.
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Now, i understand that there are people
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Who teach grace and use it as a license to sin,
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And it is not a license to sin.
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If you are using grace as a license to sin,
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You don't understand grace.
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You're gonna live better if you understand grace.
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I live better than i ever did before
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Once i got a revelation of grace.
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And you know,
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Praise god- - being in the spirit
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Is being in christ jesus.
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Being in the flesh
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Is being outside- - amen.
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- of christ jesus. - you're either, yeah,
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Saved from- - jesus forgave people,
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He saved people, he rescued people,
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But he never gave 'em a license to sin.
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He would forgive people, he would heal people,
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He would save people, deliver people, and he'd say,
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"go and sin no more."
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- right. - that's what grace does.
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Grace gives you the power.
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- right, he did not- - to not sin no more.
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- condemn them.
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You know, we have this person in our church
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That actually got a divorce
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And then remarried somebody else.
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And because this person was very visible
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In the body of christ, you know,
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And they never came to me for counsel, they never asked me.
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They just went and did what they did
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'cause they were so tired.
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And we all knew that they were dealing
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With a lot of problems and difficulties,
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And we didn't condemn them, you know?
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It wasn't our decision, that was their decision.
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But this person, we had these people coming
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To our church and they're like,
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"if you don't publicly get on the platform
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And condemn this person, we're gonna quit this church!"
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And i just said, "i'm not gonna do it."
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And i talked to 'em- - don't let the door hit you
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Where the good lord split ya.
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- yeah, and i talked to 'em, i wept,
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But i talked to 'em for an hour,
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And then they had to come back several months
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After they quit the church and bring these stupid books.
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And i tried to explain the gospel to 'em again.
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And then they gave me,
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"we just wanna give you these books."
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And i said, "listen, i'm not gonna read those,
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So you can just keep 'em."
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Because i don't wanna read a bunch
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Of this legalistic garbage that is condemning people
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And making them twice the child of hell,
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Jesus said, than they were before.
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It's not leading 'em into freedom.
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It's not leading 'em into victory.
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It's not leading 'em into a love relationship with jesus.
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And, you know, i talked
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To 'em about the woman caught in adultery.
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I talked to 'em about all these gospel things.
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And, you know, there's a lot of people
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In the church that are just religious.
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And you know what?
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You can't be saved by your religion.
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You can only be saved by believing on jesus.
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- [aaron] yeah.
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- and, you know- - well, you know,
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You mentioned divorce,
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And there's not a lot of really good teaching out there,
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And a lot of people make entire doctrines based upon it.
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You know, their entire denominations
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Where they chop people off who've been divorced,
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You know, won't let them have communion
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If they've been divorced.
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- [lawson] it's terrible.
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- and jesus ministered, you know,
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The samaritan woman at the well.
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He ministered to her,
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And she was one of the first evangelists.
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She had been divorced multiple times.
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And jesus does mention, you know,
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Divorce in the sermon on the mount in matthew chapter 5,
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And he's just showing people how if you keep the law,
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It doesn't make you righteous.
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So, in the law, you could divorce someone,
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You could give someone
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A certificate of divorce. - yeah.
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- and technically, you could actually marry
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Someone in the morning, divorce them at night.
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You can have 365 different wives in one year-
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- that'd be terrible.
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- and still be keeping the law because it was permitted.
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So he's saying that that's not god's heart.
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He said, "god's heart is really for one man, one woman
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To come together and be together one flesh."
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And god doesn't like divorce because it's a terrible thing,
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You know, for anyone to go through.
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It's not an easy thing.
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- it's very painful. - it's very painful.
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And so, that's not god's heart.
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But if you're gonna make a whole doctrine out,
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You need to make a doctrine outta the verse
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Before that says,
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"if you're right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out."
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And if you've ever sinned before-
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- yeah. - where's your right eye?
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Why is it still in your head?
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If you're gonna be that dogmatic-
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- oh. - and slam people
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Who've been divorced,
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You need to cut off your own right arm if you've ever
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Sinned with it before. - yeah.
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Yeah, it's just terrible.
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People get so legalistic.
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And you know what?
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If we had to kick out everybody that's been divorced,
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We'd have to kick out half the body of christ.
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- and there's hope for people too.
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You know, i saw- - yes!
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- a really awesome counselor.
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He has a huge influence, huge following.
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And, you know, he believes that 95% of marriages
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Where people think they need to come to an end,
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95% of those, he believes, are still salvageable,
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Which i thought, "that was really awesome.
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This guy who works with marriages,
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Who works with people who are hurt,
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Who've just at the end of their rope,
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He thinks that 95% of those things-"
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- yeah. - there's still hope."
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- yeah, but talking about this,
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When you mention moses in the law,
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He commanded them to give them a bill of divorcement
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Because of their hardness of their heart.
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If god made provision in the old covenant
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For people with these situations, then wouldn't,
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Under the new covenant, there'd be provision.
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That's just crazy.
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You know, the bible actually talks about this
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In the old testament.
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It says that god divorced israel
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And god never sinned.
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Friend, i hope you've been enjoying this teaching
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On romans chapter 8.
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This is actually just a part
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Of the teachings that we have available.
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I have a syllabus on the book of romans
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That you can get on our website.
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Downloadable videos, free of charge on romans.
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Blessings.
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- i just had this headache,
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Like a migraine or tension headache.
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When we came into the service, he said,
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"it's on your left side,
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Specifically right along your head right here."
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And he even motioned that way, and said something like,
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"this is power of god's gonna come on you."
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I just felt, like, this electricity.
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Like, it felt like it outlined my whole entire body.
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Then i just felt,
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"wow, just touched by god."
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(calm music)
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- so, you know, some people gotta rethink their doctrine.
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- well, and this is why people do
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When they make a huge doctrine outta something,
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Outta one verse that they're not really
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Looking at in context.
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That what they do is, they'll make workarounds.
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They'll find other rules to kinda fit
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Their own theology.
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So, concerning divorce and certain denominations
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Where, you know, you can't get remarried.
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So, what they do,
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"well, my initial marriage never happened.
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It was annulled."
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They just erase the first marriage.
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"so, it didn't happen, so therefore,
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I didn't have to be divorced because they're just annulled."
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- right. - so, people find a workaround
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To fit their own legalistic thinking.
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- yeah. - and-
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- to fit their manmade rules, but it's not gospel.
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Anyway, i don't really wanna get into that,
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But at the same point in time, did you know what?
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If there is not hope for people, (chuckles) it's terrible,
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That is just not true.
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- well, we're just talking- - that is not the gospel.
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- about how the law doesn't set you free,
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Legalism doesn't set you free.
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And some people, you know, they're so legalistic,
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It blinds them- - oh, yeah!
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- from saying the truth.
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It blinds them to experience god's power.
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- yeah.
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And, you know, whatever you get legalistic about,
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That usually will trip people up.
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- and i've seen it, i've seen people get a huge,
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Religious, legalistic spirit about something
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Where they should be thinking like jesus does
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And focusing on jesus, rather than other people.
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And it- - yeah.
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Usually, when people are picking at the splinter
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In somebody else's eye,
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They got a log in their own.
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Jesus talked about that. - it's not a good road
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You wanna go down.
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And i've seen people go down the wrong road,
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The legalistic religious road,
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And it's not a happy road. - amen.
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Well, let's move on into roman chapter 8.
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We were in verse 1 through 4 yesterday,
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But let's jump into verse 5
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And talk about verse 5 on down through verse 7.
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He says this,
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"for they that are after the flesh,"
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And you define being in the flesh
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As anything outside of christ,
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So if you're not born again, you're outside of christ,
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Or if you're following things that are after the flesh,
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You know, you don't wanna do that.
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They think on things of the flesh,
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They mind the things of the flesh,
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Or things that are outside of christ,
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But they that are after the spirit
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Things of the spirit, if you're in christ,
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You should be focused on things of the spirit.
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For to be carnally-minded is death,
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But to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
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Now, there's different types of carnal-mindedness, right?
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There's this worldly thinking that's carnal-minded,
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There's just being motivated by your senses
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That is carnal-minded,
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But there's also legalism is carnal-minded
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When you go back to romans chapter 7.
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You know, in romans chapter 5,
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Paul says in verse 17 that,
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"those who have received the abundance of grace
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And the gift of righteousness reigned
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In life through jesus christ."
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The old amplified says that we reign in life as kings.
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So, we've come from the reign of sin and death
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To the reign of grace and righteousness by faith in jesus,
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And we reign in life.
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Then it tells us in romans chapter 6,
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We don't wanna keep living in sin, because why?
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We're dead to it, we're free from it, we got authority over,
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And the wages of sin is still death.
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If you keep living in sin,
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It's gonna work death in your life, period.
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Now, we are not condoning sin.
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I don't want anybody to think that we are.
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But romans chapter 7 says this
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Because paul said we're dead to sin in romans chapter 6.
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But in romans 7, he says we're dead to the law.
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Because just like sin will kill you, legalism will kill you.
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Legalism is not freedom.
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- and verse 6 is powerful too,
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Talking about a carnal mindset
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Versus a spiritual mindset. - uh-huh.
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- and i'm using the word mindset-
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- [lawson] that's right.
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- because it's where your mind is really set,
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It's really programmed for.
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- uh-huh. - so, a carnal mind
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Is outside of christ.
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- amen. - you know, and different
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Types of mindsets are carnal
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And different types of mindsets are spiritual.
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If you have a mindset that is fear-focused, fear-based,
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Full of worry, full of anxiety, full of depression,
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That's a carnal mindset.
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God does not give us a spirit of fear.
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He does not give us a fearful mindset.
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- amen. - he actually gives us
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A faith-filled mindset.
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- mm-hmm. - you know, god doesn't give
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Us a lack mindset. - mentality.
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- he gives us an abundance mindset.
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- yeah. - you know, look at jesus.
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When when was he ever worried about not having enough?
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- no, he said,
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"listen, look at the birds of the air.
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You know, they don't harvest.
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They don't sow,
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They don't, you know, gather into barns."
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But he said, "yet, you know what?
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Your father in heaven feeds them."
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He said, "look at the flowers of the field."
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Even solomon, in all of his glory, was not arrayed,
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Was not clothed like the flowers of the field.
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What he's saying is, that's what worldly people think about.
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What you gotta eat, what you gotta wear,
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Just focused on the physical realm.
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He said, "don't focus.
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Seek first the kingdom of god and his righteousness."
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This is matthew 6:33,
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"and all of these things will be added unto you."
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Man, when you start putting god first,
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He will take you farther, he'll bless you more,
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He'll help you more.
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You'll live better, you know, than ever before.
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- and you know, the next verse 7 says,
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"the carnal mind, or that mindset,
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That fleshly outside of christ's mindset, "it's enemy."
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"enemy against god,
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For it is not subject to the law of god."
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- yes. - "that law of the spirit
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Of life in christ's jesus, nor indeed can be."
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- yes. - and it says,
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"so then those who are in the flesh
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Cannot please god." - cannot.
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- so those who are outside of christ.
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- yeah. - if you have rejected jesus,
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You cannot please god.
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Only faith can please god.
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- amen.
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- and the ultimate faith is putting faith in jesus.
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- amen.
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"so, the carnal mind is an enemy of god.
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It is not subject to the law of god,
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Neither indeed can be.
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So, they that are in the flesh,"
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That's talking about before you got saved,
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Those who are outside of christ cannot please god.
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The only way that you can please god is believe jesus.
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Faith pleases god.
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Hebrews 11:6 says,
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Without faith, it's impossible to please god.
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Because he who comes to god must believe that he is, a,
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And that he is a rewarder of those who diligently seek him.
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It takes both belief in god, number one and a,
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And b, number two, it takes a belief in the goodness of god,
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That god is a rewarder of those who diligently seek him
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To really live by faith and please god.
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- and this kinda, you know, confirms my definition
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Of being in the flesh versus in the spirit.
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And the flesh means to be outside of christ.
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- yeah. - so, it says,
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"but you are not in the flesh, but in the spirit,
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If indeed the spirit of god-" - amen.
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- dwells in you."
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Now, if anyone does not have the spirit of christ,
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He is not his.
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- amen. so, you are either in the flesh
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Or you're in the spirit,
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But you are not in the flesh and in the spirit.
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You're either born of god or you're not born of god.
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You're either saved.
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If you die, you're either going to heaven
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Because you believed on jesus
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Or you're not going to heaven
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Because you didn't believe on jesus.
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That's what he's saying.
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And he says, "if you don't have the spirit of christ,
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You're none of his."
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You're either in your spirit,
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You're either 100% a child of god, or you're 100% lost.
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You're not going 90% to heaven and 10% to hell
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Or 90% to hell and 10% to heaven.
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You're either going to heaven
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Or you're going to hell in your spirit.
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You know, james divines physical death, and james says,
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"the body without the spirit is dead."
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And when your spirit leaves your body,
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You're going to heaven, your spirit.
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And so, they're gonna go live
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In the presence of jesus christ forever
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Or you're gonna be separated from god forever.
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And boy, i don't wanna be separated from god forever.
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Amen.
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So, he goes on and he says this in verse 10,
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"and if christ be in you,
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The body is dead because of sin."
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When jesus lives in you,
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You don't need to let your old physical flesh
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Rule you anymore.
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- i love that paul writes that if any man be in christ,
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He's a new creature.
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- amen. - and in the greek
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For new creature, it means something
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That's never existed before.
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- [lawson] brand new creation.
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- it's not a better you or an improved you,
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It's something that's never existed before.
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- amen. what happens, i believe, is the word of god comes
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And joins with your spirit, and you're born of god.
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That's 2 corinthians 5:17 that you were quoting.
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In 1 peter 1:23, says that we're born again
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By the incorruptible seed of the word of god that is living
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And abiding forever.
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That lives and abides forever.
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So that's what happened
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When we heard the gospel and believed it.
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But he says, "if christ be in you," in verse 10,
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"the body is dead because of sin."
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So, the body no longer rules you.
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You don't need to let your flesh or physical man
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Rule you anymore, but the spirit is alive.
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We're alive to god because of righteousness.
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But if the spirit of him
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That raised up jesus from the dead dwell in you,
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He who raised up christ from the dead shall bring life,
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Shall quicken your mortal body
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By his spirit that lives in you.
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Praise god, we have the exact same spirit
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That lives on the inside of us.
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If you don't know that today,
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I'm encouraging you to give us a call
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And pray with our prayer ministers.
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We have prayer ministers that are ready to pray for you
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And believe on jesus, receive jesus
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As your personal lord and personal savior.
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Praise god.
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And you know what?
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We have ministers that are ready to minister to you
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So you can receive this.
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And so, he says this,
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And that is my absolute favorite scripture in all the bible.
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So, when we talk about this,
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In christ, there's no condemnation,
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There's no judgment against us.
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We're born of god.
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Amen.
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It's the law of the spirit of life
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In christ jesus that made me free.
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That's the legality of the new creation.
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Then when we renew our mind
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And begin to focus on things of the word,
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That's the mentality of the new creation,
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But this is talking about the reality of the new creation.
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Man, jesus lives in us as believers.
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Man- - and only jesus gives life.
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- amen.
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- you know, buddha's dead, muhammad's dead.
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Confucius is dead, karl marx is dead,
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Freud is dead, nietzsche is dead.
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You know, nietzsche said, "god is dead."
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But nietzsche is dead.
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God is alive, jesus is alive.
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- amen. - and only jesus gives life.
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- amen.
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Praise the lord.
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Well, friend, if you don't know jesus,
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I wanna invite you right now to pray with me,
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And i'm gonna pray a simple prayer.
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And then i want you to call in
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And receive prayer from our prayer ministers today.
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And i wanna say thanks to all of our partners
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Before i go off the air,
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Because you're helping us take this message
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Of jesus to the world.
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Just pray this simple prayer.
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Heavenly father, i believe that jesus christ is your son.
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I believe that he died for my sins.
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I believe that you raised him from the dead
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On the third day and made him lord.
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And right now, i surrender my life
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To the lordship of jesus.
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In jesus' name i pray.
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Amen.
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Blessings.
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Friends, i want you to get my book
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On "romans: the revelation of righteousness."
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Romans is actually my favorite book
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In all of the scriptures,
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And i've been teaching this for decades
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At charis bible college here in colorado.
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So, you wanna get this teaching.
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I believe when you understand that you are the righteousness
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Of god in christ and what the gospel has done for you,
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It will change your life for good.
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Lawson Perdue - Romans 8 (Part 2)

August 19, 2025 | S25 E3403 | 29:55

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