Lawson Perdue - Romans 8 (Part 3)

August 20, 2025 | S25 E3404 | 29:55

Pastor Lawson Perdue from the Charis Christian Center outreach speaks to viewers across the globe about the practical message of Jesus Christ

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Grace for Today with Lawson Perdue | Lawson Perdue - Romans 8 (Part 3) | August 20, 2025

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- praise the lord, friends, and welcome to the broadcast.
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I am so glad that you tuned in today.
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We are right in the heart of romans chapter eight,
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And we're gonna be talking about what it means
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To be a child of god.
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And you need to know,
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Without a shadow of a doubt from the bottom of your heart,
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That you are a child of god
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And as a child of god, what that affords you.
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Stay tuned.
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Friends, welcome to the broadcast.
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I'm so glad that you're here and glad to have aaron with me.
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We're talking about romans chapter eight today,
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Which is my favorite chapter of the bible.
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And thank god i love the word of god,
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All of it from genesis to revelation.
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But there's just amazing grace when you really begin
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To understand what romans chapter eight is talking about.
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And we're in romans 8:12.
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We talked about in verse one, how there's no condemnation.
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You need to be free from condemnation.
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Condemnation will keep you in bondage to your past.
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Condemnation will keep you out of the abundance
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That god has for you.
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And condemnation will keep you from accomplishing
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What god wants you to accomplish.
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So you need to understand this thing about no condemnation,
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No judgment against those who are in christ jesus.
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Then we talked about how we've got a brand new law.
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It's the law of the spirit of life in christ jesus.
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We're not living under the mosaic law.
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Thank god the law wasn't made for a righteous man,
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Timothy says, but for ungodly, for murders of fathers,
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Murders of mothers, whore mungers, men's stealers,
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All these terrible things.
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Man, if you're living terrible,
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You can take the law and show you that you're wrong.
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But the law wasn't made for a righteous man.
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We've got a new law, the law of the spirit of life
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At christ jesus, the law of faith, the law of love.
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This is what we, boasting is excluded by the law of faith.
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Romans 3:27 says so.
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You know, it's not those old covenant laws,
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It's this new covenant, the law of love.
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Jesus said, i've got a greater commandment
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That you love one another as i've loved you.
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If you really understand love,
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You'll live better than you ever would
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If you didn't understand the love of god.
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We talked about that.
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We talked about how we're not to think on things
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Of the flesh that are outside of christ,
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But we're supposed to be, you know,
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Not to be carnally minded, but be spiritual minded.
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Think about things that are in christ,
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Not outside of christ, and how we have a brand new spirit.
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You're either inside of christ or outside of christ.
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But he goes on and begins to talk about the way
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That we live in verse 12 through verse 17.
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So aaron, jump in there, romans eight, verse 12 to verse 17,
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And just share whatever you wanna share.
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- so it says, "therefore brethren, we are debtors not
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To the flesh to live according to the flesh.
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But if you live according to the flesh, you will die.
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But if by the spirit you put to death the deeds
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Of the body, you will live."
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So here he is saying that to live the new life,
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You have to die to the old person.
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- right.
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- and i like that he has that debtor mentality.
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He's, you know,
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Legalism will actually make you very prideful
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And feel like you're very entitled to certain things.
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I've noticed people who have a very religious kind
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Of prideful spirit, they feel like they go around
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With like an entitlement type of attitude
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Rather than a debtor or like a servant type attitude.
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- [lawson] yeah.
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- you know, your mindset will affect your attitude.
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- [lawson] sure.
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- and your attitude will affect, you know,
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Your relationships with other people,
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Your relationships within the body of christ.
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But it'll affect the direction of your life as well.
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- [lawson] amen.
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- and i think that entitlement attitude,
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It's one of the worst attitudes to have,
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And it's a very religious type attitude.
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You know, and kind of a lot of people
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In the young generation have that attitude as well.
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You know, it's not about what i can contribute,
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But what i'm entitled to, what belongs to me.
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- and it's a terrible mentality.
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You know, paul had this debtor mentality, like you said.
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He says this in romans chapter one, verse 14 to verse 16.
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There are three key decisions that rule paul's life.
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And in verse 14, he says this, "i am a debtor,
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Both to the greeks and the barbarians,
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Both to the wise and the unwise."
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Paul made a decision to live his life,
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Not as someone who was entitled,
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But as someone who owed his life, first of all, to jesus,
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But second of all, to share the gospel with the world.
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And then he said, "as much as in me, secondly,
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I am ready to preach the gospel."
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Number one, he made a decision to live as a debtor.
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He owed his life to jesus,
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And he owed his life to share the gospel.
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Number two, to be ready to preach the gospel.
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You know, if you'll get ready to preach the gospel,
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God will give somebody to you to preach it to.
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You know, we're all to be shared the message of jesus.
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We're all ministers of the gospel.
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You know, 1 peter, chapter four, verse 10 says,
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"as we have received christ jesus the lord,
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The grace of jesus,
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So let us minister the same one to another."
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As good stewards of the many sided grace of god.
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But then he made this third decision
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To live in romans 1, verse 16.
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He says, "for i am not ashamed of the gospel of christ.
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For it is the power of god to salvation."
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But aaron, what saying is exactly right,
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There are so many people that live with this mentality
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That somebody owes them something,
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But nobody owes you anything.
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And we need to understand that jesus gave everything for us.
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And because if we begin to take on the mind of christ,
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Paul says in philippians, "let this mind be in you
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That was in christ jesus."
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You know?
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And when you let the mind that was in christ jesus,
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I'm gonna share this because this is so powerful,
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And it's talking exactly about what you're sharing.
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In philippians chapter two,
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He says this, this same mind that was in christ jesus.
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He says, "look, not every man on his own things,
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But every man also on the things of others."
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Philippians 2:4.
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"let this mind be in you that was in christ jesus."
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So we shouldn't just be thinking about ourself.
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We should be considering what does the way i live,
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How does that affect other people?
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How does that affect my family?
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- and it's kind of a hard thing to explain,
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Him saying we are debtors.
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But you can think of it like creditors.
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Creditors will call people saying what you owe them.
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- right.
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- you know, creditors will go around just thinking
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About what everyone owes them,
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What they're entitled to.
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And a debtor is the opposite.
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You know, how can i help people?
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How can i administer to people?
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A creditor is gonna hold onto bitterness.
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- [lawson] yep.
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- a creditor is gonna hold on to unforgiveness.
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You know, not let things, you know,
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Not trust god to make things right.
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I have to make things right.
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I have to hold people accountable.
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And that debtor mentality, it's completely opposite.
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It's, you know, god's gonna take care of me.
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He's already forgiven me so i can forgive other people.
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I can love people even though they don't deserve it.
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I'm not gonna hold onto offenses and bitterness
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And keep records of people's wrongs.
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I'm gonna let things go quickly
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And just trust god for healing in my life.
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That's powerful and that's life in the spirit.
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- amen.
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- living in the spirit.
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- yeah.
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- you know, my wife and i were talking about this
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The other day, just a lot of keys to life
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Is just living in the spirit.
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And a lot of people don't know what it means
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To live in the spirit, to walk in the spirit,
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Just to be in the spirit constantly,
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Rather than just making provision for the flesh.
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- yeah.
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He goes on and says, "we're debtors not to the flesh
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To live after the flesh."
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We don't owe our flesh the time of day.
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We don't owe our flesh anything.
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You know, paul, like you said, lived like a debtor.
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He makes a statement in the end
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Of one corinthians chapter six,
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And talks about this same thing that you're talking about.
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One corinthians chapter six, verse 19
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And verse 20, i wanna read that.
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He says this, and i gotta get there.
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My bible's having a hard time, get to the right place.
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But he says, "don't you know that your body is the temple
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Of the holy spirit, which you have of god,
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And you are not your own."
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We are not our own.
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"for you are bought with the price,
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Therefore glorify god in your body."
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You're not debtors to the flesh.
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You're to glorify god in your body.
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Listen to this.
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"and in your spirit, which are god's.
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That's one corinthians chapter six, verse 19 and 20.
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And so when we think about this,
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We don't owe our flesh the things
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That are outside of christ anything.
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He says, "if you live after the flesh,"
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I know some believers think i'm just gonna go flesh out.
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I have some rules that i live by now.
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I'm not talking about legalism,
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But i have barriers that i put in my own life, right?
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Guardrails. like, i'm not going there.
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I'm not doing that.
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So he says this, he says,
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"for if you live after the flesh, you shall die.
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But if you through the spirit do put to death the deeds
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Of the body, you shall live."
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You know, colossians chapter three says,
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"mortify therefore your members, which are on earth,"
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Fornication, you know, uncleanliness,
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All these other different things, he says, put them to death
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And put also off these ever, you know,
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Evil speaking, different things.
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You know, paul's not saying, just let your old man,
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You know, or your flesh, your feelings rule.
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He, he said, no, you don't owe that anything.
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- let your spirit, let the spirit of christ in you.
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You have the spirit of christ in you.
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Let it live through you.
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- a lot of people have made feelings an idol
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That's like one of the biggest idols in the world today.
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Even in the body of christ.
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You know, i don't really feel god's presence.
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I don't really feel like worshiping him.
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I don't feel like going to church.
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I don't feel, they've made feelings an idol.
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- [lawson] yeah.
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- and that's not a good thing.
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- that reminds me a story of dr. lester sumrall told
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About one of the first times
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That he met smith wigglesworth, he went to his house
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And he knocked on the door
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And he said, smith came to the door
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And he was dressed in this blue suit.
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That's what he wore almost all the time.
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And he said, "hey, smith, how you feeling?"
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He said, "i don't ask myself how i feel.
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I tell myself how i feel.
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I get up every morning and i dance 10 minutes before god."
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You need to tell yourself how you feel.
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You need to get your body in order, get your mind in order.
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Praise god, start living.
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Dr. sumrall, he said, he had a newspaper under his arm.
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And smith wigglesworth said, "you can come in the house,
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But that newspaper stays outside.
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I don't let any bad news in this house."
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Praise god.
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A lot of people just feed on all this garbage
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And then they wonder why they feel so bad.
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Well start feeding on the word of god, man,
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You'll start feeling better.
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- i'm gonna go on here in verse 14 romans.
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- it's great.
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- 14 romans says,
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"for as many as are led by the spirit of god,
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These are the sons of god.
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For you to not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear,
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But you received the spirit of adoption by whom we cry out
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Abba father, the spirit himself bears witness
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With our spirit that we are children of god.
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And if children then heirs,
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Heirs of god in joint heirs with christ, if indeed we suffer
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With him, that we may also be glorified together."
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You know, just last week at our youth service,
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My wife heather and i preached just from romans 8:14-17.
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On how god wants us to be part of his family.
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We were actually honoring the senior graduates,
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High school graduates.
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And i was excited about that night.
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You know, we had six graduates.
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We prayed over them, prophesied over them.
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We kind of explained what prophecy is.
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It's just speaking god's power to somebody
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For something that we see inside of them.
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And it was very powerful.
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And a family brought a first time visitor that night.
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And they said she'd never been to church before
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And after, you know, worship,
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And we prayed over the seniors and prophesied over them,
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She's being very moved by god's presence.
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And she asked if we could pray for her as well.
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The youth had already been dismissed to go to get cupcakes
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And celebrate and we're gonna do our message after that.
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And i just asked her, "well, can we just wait till
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After our message so everyone's there
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To pray for you as well?"
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And, and she said, "sure."
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And we preached on this.
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On just being part of god's family
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And how god wants you to be part of his family.
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He doesn't give you that spirit of bondage again into fear.
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God does not put fear on us.
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- [lawson] yeah.
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- he loves us. he wants to set us free and.
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- and he, you know,
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And he wants to give us that spirit of adoption.
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- and the thing about adoption
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Is there are no accidental adoptions.
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- [lawson] that's right.
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- every adoption is always intentional.
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It's always purposeful.
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It's always planned for, it's always wanted, desired
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God, it's his same way with us.
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And he wants us so much that he actually places
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His own spirit inside of us.
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That way we always know that we're his.
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We're sealed.
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- [lawson] yeah.
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- with that holy spirit of promise.
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So we know that he's our father.
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And we always know that.
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In religion, that spirit of bondage that comes
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From legalism, that comes from religion,
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It actually drives you away from god.
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(upbeat music)
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- friend, i hope you've been enjoying this teaching
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On romans chapter eight.
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This is actually just a part of the teachings
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That we have available.
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I have a syllabus on the book of romans
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That's absolutely free of charge.
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I have a book that i've written on the book of romans
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That you can get on our website.
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And i also have on our website, downloadable audios,
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Downloadable videos, free of charge on roman's blessings.
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(upbeat music)
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- we went to pastor lawson
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And we said we were just, you know, needing some guidance,
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Some wisdom on how to believe or whatever.
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But he said, i feel like god is telling me
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You're gonna get all this money all in one chunk.
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We just started calling that money in.
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That money came, we got the check
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Before the end of the year.
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And it actually, there was, it paid enough
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To cover all the medical debt.
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And there was 10,000 left.
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(soft music)
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- you know, and i was thinking about my own children.
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I have an 11-year-old son and i have a 4-year-old daughter.
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And i was actually picturing my daughter,
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And this is what religion does.
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Religion place puts this spirit on you.
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When you mess up, you think,
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Please don't tell my dad, he's gonna kill me.
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- [lawson] yeah.
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- but the spirit that god gives us, that spirit
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Of adoption, when you mess up, you say,
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Someone call my dad, i need his help.
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- yeah. amen.
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- and someday when my 4-year-old is, you know, a teenager,
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Like all these people i was ministering to,
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If she got in trouble,
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I want her to feel, someone call my dad.
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I need his help.
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I wouldn't want her to say,
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Don't let my dad know, he's gonna kill me.
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- yeah. amen.
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Aaron, you know, my pastor
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For years was raised in pentecost, right?
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And religion and he felt like if you did once sin,
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You were going to hell.
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So when he was like in junior high, you know,
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He said a cuss word in class.
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So he thought, well, i'm already going to hell,
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So i might as well smoke a cigar.
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And he went from saying one cuss word to smoking,
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To drinking, to chasing women,
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To playing in a rock and roll band,
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Just to living like the devil.
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And it's because of that legalistic teaching,
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You know, that drives you away from god.
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And you know, the bible actually says in hebrews chapter two
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Or four, that god reigns from a throne of grace.
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And we can come boldly to the throne of grace
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To obtain help in a time of need.
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And so, you know what?
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If we've been, it's hebrews chapter four,
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End of hebrews chapter two talks about coming to god
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So he can help you.
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But hebrews four says,
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"let us come boldly," in hebrews 4:16,
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"to the throne of grace that we may obtain mercy
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And find grace to help it,
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You know, in time of need."
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- and i wanna go back to my story 'cause we preached this
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And then just did a very simple altar call.
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- [lawson] yeah.
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- and you know, this young woman raised her hand.
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She wanted to give her life to jesus
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And be part of god's family.
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She wanted to be a daughter of god.
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And then after we prayed, did our altar call,
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We had her come up and prayed over her
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As a graduating senior, but as a, you know,
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Brand new just daughter of god.
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And it was very moving to her.
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After service, she was talking to my wife heather,
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And just said,
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"you know, my mom didn't want me to come here
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'cause my mom hates god."
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And she said, "my mom hates god
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Because god's taken away so many people from us."
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- [lawson] yeah.
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And heather just said, "that is not god.
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That is religion.
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That's actually a doctrine of the devil
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That god takes people away.
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God is not the author of death."
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You know, john 10:10 just states it so clearly jesus said,
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The thief comes to steal, to kill, to destroy,
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But i have come to give you life
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And give it to you more abundant.
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And that young woman just got it.
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- [lawson] amen.
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- and we're praying that she's just gonna be an evangelist
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To her family and people are gonna see who god really is.
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- a god of love. a god of grace.
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And you know, aaron, i somewhat understand this,
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But you know, a lot of times pastors
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Just wanna make people feel good.
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So when somebody dies they say,
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Oh, god needed a more than you.
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And he took.
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And god is not in the killing business.
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He's not in the taking business.
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He's not in the robbing and stealing business.
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God is in the life.
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And if it's not life
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And good god didn't give, god can't give any bad thing.
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And you know, james 1:17,
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The scripture you quoted john 10:10,
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And james chapter one, verse 17,
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Or verse 18 says, verse 17 says,
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"every good in every perfect gift
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Comes down from above, from the father of lights
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With whom there is no variableness,
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Neither shadow of turning."
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In other words, if it is not good
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And not perfect, it could not come from god
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Because that's all he has to give.
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So i have a very simple doctrine.
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God is always good.
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You wanna add one o to god
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And you get god or good, right?
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And the devil is always evil.
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You take the d off of devil,
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It is the devil that takes away and causes evil.
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God is good and the devil is evil.
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God does good and the devil does evil.
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Sickness and disease does not come from god.
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Sickness and disease comes from the devil.
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Poverty does not come from god.
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Poverty comes from the devil.
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Amen?
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And it's really simple,
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But so many people mess it up.
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And they do it because they wanna make people feel good.
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I don't understand everything.
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I will be the first to say
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That i don't understand
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Why some people don't receive healing
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Or some people do or different things.
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But i do not blame god
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Because god is not the author of death, evil,
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And destruction in any way, shape, or form, period.
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That is new testament.
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There is not one person that came to jesus to be healed.
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And jesus said, "oh, you just suffer with that.
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God put this on you to teach you something."
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There's not one person.
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And jesus is the express image of the father.
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Jesus shows us the will of the father, but know what?
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People get religious, they get carnal.
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They just wanna make people feel good.
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And so they say this stuff.
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I'm telling you, i've had several people who claim
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To be atheist recently in my church
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That have been born again.
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And they're talking about god.
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And you know what?
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There are no true atheists
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Because everybody knows there is a god.
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Everybody knows there's a creator.
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That's what romans chapter one says.
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But at the same point in time,
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These people claim to be atheists.
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And now they're confessing faith in jesus.
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And most people who claim
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To be atheists are mad at god
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And they're actually blaming god for something.
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If you understand the new testament,
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It is the devil that did it.
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And it is not good. it is not god.
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Amen.
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So, you know, that's powerful what you're saying.
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And so, you know, when we think about this, the spirit
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Of god leads us as the children of god into freedom.
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The spirit of god leads us into adoption, into the fact
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That we know that we're the children of god
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And that god loves us.
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And then the spirit of god leads us.
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He says this in verse 17, "if we're children,"
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He says in verse 16, "the spirit himself bears witness
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With our spirit that we are the children of god."
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How do i know i'm a child of god?
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The holy spirit bears witness with my spirit.
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I'm a child.
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If you don't know that you're a child of god,
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I want you to call in
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And i want you to pray with our prayer ministers
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And so that you can know that you're children of god.
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And if children, he says, then this,
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"then we're heirs, heirs of god and joint heirs."
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That means we are equal heirs together with jesus christ.
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If so be that we identify with his death,
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We suffer with him.
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People take this and make all kind of things out of it
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That it isn't, the suffering
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That's talking about is christ's suffering on the cross.
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And if you identify with jesus, if you've been crucified
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With christ, you can live with christ.
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If you die with christ, you can reign with christ
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That we may also be glorified together.
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(lawson coughing)
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Amen.
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- that's powerful too.
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It says we're actually joint heirs with christ.
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That means like we have a equal inheritance with christ.
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- [lawson] amen.
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- you know, a few years ago,
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I had someone research the purdue lineage
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And they went clear back, you know, 15 generations.
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But i remember this one purdue that they researched,
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He fought in the revolutionary war.
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They actually had his divorce settlement with his wife.
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He had to give her so many bushels of sugar
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And, you know, a hay mattress and like a house.
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He was pretty wealthy, but he had,
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You know, a dozen children.
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And they have his will too.
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All these documents are, you know, held,
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You know, preserved in courts.
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But they had his will.
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And you know, like nine of his kids,
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He gave different things to,
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But three of them, he gave $1 to.
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And it says, for reasons known to me,
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Like the reasons were that they died with him,
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But they got $1.
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And there's a legal reason why people do that in wills.
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'cause if they specifically give you $1,
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That means you can't claim to get anything else.
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Like, if you're not mentioning the will,
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Then you can, sometimes something happens,
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You can still make claim to the will.
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But those three that just got a dollar,
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They weren't joint heirs.
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- yeah.
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- they weren't equal heirs.
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- amen.
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- some people think, you know, i'm a son,
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I'm a daughter of god, but i just, i'm a lesser son.
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I'm an outsider.
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I'm, you know, the $1 inheritance.
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But we are joint heirs with christ.
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- amen.
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And then paul goes on to say this, he says,
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"for i reckon that the sufferings
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Of this present time are not worthy to be compared."
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Did you know what sufferings he's talking about?
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He's talking about persecutions
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And afflictions for the gospel.
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And he says that isn't.
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You talk about persecution, man.
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Paul was beat three times with rods.
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Five times he received 39 stripes like jesus, five times.
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Man, he was one time stoned and left for dead.
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Paul faced all kind of trouble for the gospel.
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But he said that in no way compares with the glory
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That shall be revealed in us.
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You know, you've gotta get your eyes off the pain,
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Off the problems, off the people that come against you
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And keep your eyes on jesus.
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And if you do that, you can keep moving forward
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And your relationship with god.
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And you know, we've got a lot of tools to help people.
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I've got a great book on the book of romans,
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And if you don't have this book, you ought to get it.
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I've been teaching it for 20 years
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Or something in charis bible college.
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And i didn't always have the book i taught.
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I asked andrew wommack if i could teach the book of romans.
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And he gracelessly allowed me,
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And he's allowed me to keep teaching that for 20 years.
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And you know, i have this book,
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It's my favorite book on the revelation of righteousness.
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But we've got teachings on this that are absolutely free
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We've got hundreds of hours of teachings
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Romans is actually my favorite book
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In all of the scriptures.
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For decades at charis bible college here in colorado.
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I believe when you understand
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That you are the righteousness of god in christ
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And what the gospel has done for you,
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It will change your life for good.
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Lawson Perdue - Romans 8 (Part 3)

August 20, 2025 | S25 E3404 | 29:55

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