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Hagee Ministries | John & Matt Hagee - Middle East Conflict (Part 3) | March 5, 2026
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- Pastor matt hagee: thank you
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- Pastor matt hagee: thank you for joining us today.
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- For joining us today. pastor hagee and i are here
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- Pastor hagee and i are here to discuss one of the most
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- To discuss one of the most important issues happening in
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- Important issues happening in our world and in our lifetime.
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- Our world and in our lifetime. it's anti-semitism.
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- It's anti-semitism. how does it impact you?
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- How does it impact you? how does it impact our children?
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- How does it impact our children? how does it impact the future
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- How does it impact the future of this nation and the world?
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- Of this nation and the world? dad, before we jump into
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- Dad, before we jump into all the details of unpacking
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- All the details of unpacking what we just discussed,
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- What we just discussed, i think it's important
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- I think it's important for you to share
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- For you to share with our audience how
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- With our audience how you became a lover
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- You became a lover of israel and what was it
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- Of israel and what was it about that experience that made
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- About that experience that made you the defender of israel
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- You the defender of israel that you are today?
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- That you are today? pastor john hagee: matt, i fell
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- Pastor john hagee: matt, i fell in love with israel
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- In love with israel hearing bible stories.
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- Hearing bible stories. you have to understand,
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- You have to understand, my father was a pastor
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- My father was a pastor and my mother was
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- And my mother was a bible school graduate.
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- A bible school graduate. pastor matt: she was a scholar.
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- Pastor john: she was
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- Pastor john: she was a bible scholar.
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- A bible scholar. and she would read
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- And she would read to me bible stories
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- To me bible stories as a young boy
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- As a young boy of david and goliath,
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- Of david and goliath, daniel in the lion's den,
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- Jesus and his 12 disciples.
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- Jesus and his 12 disciples. i fell in love with
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- I fell in love with israel again when i visited
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- Israel again when i visited the holy land in 1978.
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- The holy land in 1978. i was the pastor of a church.
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- I was the pastor of a church. i took a small group
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- I took a small group of church members
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- Of church members with me to israel.
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- With me to israel. i wanted to see the places
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- I wanted to see the places where jesus had walked:
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- Where jesus had walked: the sea of galilee,
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- The sea of galilee, the place called calvary,
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- The place called calvary, the garden tomb.
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- The garden tomb. but i went to israel a pilgrim
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- But i went to israel a pilgrim and i returned home a zionist.
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- And i returned home a zionist. pastor matt: in your lifetime,
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- Pastor matt: in your lifetime, you've seen
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- You've seen widespread anti-semitism,
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- Widespread anti-semitism, unlike, really,
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- Unlike, really, any point in history.
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- Any point in history. what's the source of it?
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- What's the source of it? pastor john: the source
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- Pastor john: the source of anti-semitism is infecting
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- Of anti-semitism is infecting our country because
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- Our country because the gospel of jesus christ
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- The gospel of jesus christ has become so attacked.
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- Has become so attacked. the church must be
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- The church must be the light of the nation.
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- The light of the nation. churches by the thousands
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- Churches by the thousands are closing every year.
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- The pastors in present churches
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- The pastors in present churches are preaching what
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- Are preaching what i call "hot tub christianity."
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- I call "hot tub christianity." it's how to make you feel
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- It's how to make you feel good without being good.
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- You don't confess your sin,
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- You don't confess your sin, you adjust to your sin.
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- You adjust to your sin. we don't tell you to repent,
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- We don't tell you to repent, we will get you a counselor.
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- We will get you a counselor. this -- that is
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- This -- that is a garbage christianity.
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- A garbage christianity. that's a
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- That's a country club christianity.
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- Country club christianity. the christianity of the bible
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- The christianity of the bible is a reconciliation
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- Is a reconciliation with jesus christ,
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- With jesus christ, the confession of your sin,
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- The confession of your sin, and the obedience to god's word.
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- And the obedience to god's word. the source of this evil is
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- The source of this evil is the same source of all evil.
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- The same source of all evil. in fact, jew hatred,
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- In fact, jew hatred, the hating of the apple
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- The hating of the apple of god's eye,
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- Of god's eye, his chosen people,
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- His chosen people, is the root of evil
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- Is the root of evil in america and the world.
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- In america and the world. the goal of anti-semitic
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- The goal of anti-semitic hatred is death.
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- Hatred is death. death for the jewish people,
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- Death for the jewish people, death for their faith,
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- Death for their faith, death and total
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- Death and total destruction of israel.
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- Destruction of israel. but as he stated on numerous
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- But as he stated on numerous occasions in the word,
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- Occasions in the word, the lord will never allow
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- The lord will never allow israel's enemies to destroy her
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- Israel's enemies to destroy her and we, zionists all,
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- And we, zionists all, will never again
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- Will never again allow the children of israel
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- Allow the children of israel to stand alone in this world.
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- To stand alone in this world. israel, you are not alone.
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- Israel, you are not alone. we are with you.
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- We are with you. pastor matt: in our
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- Pastor matt: in our conversations that we've
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- Conversations that we've been having about
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- Been having about your latest book,
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- Your latest book, "the middle east conflict"
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- "the middle east conflict" we've discussed the various
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- We've discussed the various sources of anti-semitism,
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- Sources of anti-semitism, historical, religious,
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- Historical, religious, political.
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- Political. there are multiple forms of it,
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- There are multiple forms of it, and each in their own way
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- And each in their own way are blatant and brutal.
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- Are blatant and brutal. but what we saw happen
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- But what we saw happen on october the 7th
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- On october the 7th and the corresponding violence
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- And the corresponding violence that broke out
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- That broke out in the united states
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- In the united states on colleges, campuses,
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- On colleges, campuses, and universities,
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- And universities, it's not subtle,
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- It's not subtle, it's not hidden, it's loud.
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- It's not hidden, it's loud. and if you're going
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- And if you're going to ignore it,
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- To ignore it, you're turning a blind eye
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- You're turning a blind eye to it and a deaf ear.
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- To it and a deaf ear. you're playing pretend.
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- You're playing pretend. you're not facing reality.
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- You're not facing reality. why is this blatant
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- Why is this blatant anti-semitism
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- Anti-semitism and sudden anti-semitism
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- And sudden anti-semitism happening at this time?
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- Happening at this time? pastor john: quiet evil
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- Pastor john: quiet evil and loud evil are both evil.
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- And loud evil are both evil. cowardice in the face
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- Cowardice in the face of jew hatred,
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- Of jew hatred, which is one part of
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- Which is one part of what you're describing,
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- What you're describing, is no better than hatred itself.
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- Is no better than hatred itself. as dietrich bonhoeffer
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- As dietrich bonhoeffer put it, quote,
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- Put it, quote, "silence in the face
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- "silence in the face of evil is evil itself."
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- Of evil is evil itself." god will not hold us guiltless.
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- God will not hold us guiltless. not to speak is to speak.
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- Not to act is to act.
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- Not to act is to act. if you allow your campus
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- If you allow your campus to become a cesspool of
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- To become a cesspool of anti-semitism, you are
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- Anti-semitism, you are responsible for what ensues.
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- Responsible for what ensues. organize, speak up.
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- Pastor matt: so in many cases,
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- Pastor matt: so in many cases, what we're seeing happen
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- What we're seeing happen in the united states
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- In the united states is reaping what we've sown?
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- Is reaping what we've sown? we've sown a culture
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- We've sown a culture of distortion,
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- Of distortion, when it comes
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- When it comes to historical truth,
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- To historical truth, we've sown a culture
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- We've sown a culture of rebellion,
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- Of rebellion, and now we're seeing
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- And now we're seeing the fruit of it in a generation
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- The fruit of it in a generation of young people.
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- Of young people. correct?
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- Correct? pastor john: right.
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- Pastor john: right. pastor matt: what are
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- Pastor matt: what are some of the most effective
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- Some of the most effective and impactful ways that
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- And impactful ways that individuals watching this
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- Individuals watching this program can stand up, speak up,
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- Program can stand up, speak up, and do something
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- And do something about anti-semitism?
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- About anti-semitism? pastor john: the first thing
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- Pastor john: the first thing to do is join and become
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- To do is join and become an active member of christians
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- An active member of christians united for israel.
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- United for israel. christians united for israel
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- Christians united for israel is the largest pro-israel
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- Is the largest pro-israel organization in the united
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- Organization in the united states of america and we're
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- States of america and we're doing something about it.
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- Doing something about it. we are the primary christian
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- We are the primary christian entity through which god moves
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- Entity through which god moves mountains for israel
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- Mountains for israel in the united states.
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- In the united states. we are the leading christian
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- We are the leading christian voice combating anti-semitism.
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- Voice combating anti-semitism. we have more than 10 million
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- We have more than 10 million active members.
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- Active members. yet our work
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- Yet our work is far from complete
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- Is far from complete and we cannot do it
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- And we cannot do it without every bible-
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- Without every bible- believing christian in
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- Believing christian in the country committing
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- The country committing to combating jew hatred
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- To combating jew hatred and standing with the children
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- And standing with the children of israel wherever
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- Of israel wherever and whenever it's needed.
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- >> announcer: when we return,
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- >> announcer: when we return, more on
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- More on christians united for israel.
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- Pastor matt: and part of
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- Pastor matt: and part of christians united for israel
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- Christians united for israel is to be a source
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- Is to be a source of support for the jewish
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- Of support for the jewish community in your area,
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- Host a night to honor israel,
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- Host a night to honor israel, but also be active in
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- But also be active in moving the needle politically.
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- Moving the needle politically. pastor john: absolutely.
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- Pastor john: absolutely. pastor matt: one of the things
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- Pastor matt: one of the things that christians united
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- That christians united for israel has worked
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- For israel has worked diligently towards is
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- Diligently towards is creating a definition
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- Creating a definition for anti-semitism.
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- For anti-semitism. isn't it true that there are
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- Isn't it true that there are many government leaders who
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- Many government leaders who do not have a definition
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- Do not have a definition for anti-semitism?
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- For anti-semitism? pastor john: they don't wanna
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- Pastor john: they don't wanna have a definition because
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- Have a definition because their conduct is anti-semitic
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- Their conduct is anti-semitic and that's an issue they
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- And that's an issue they don't want to address
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- Don't want to address in any way.
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- In any way. pastor matt: the second you
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- Pastor matt: the second you define the problem,
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- Define the problem, you then have to do something
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- You then have to do something about the problem.
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- About the problem. pastor john: right.
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- Pastor john: right. pastor matt: and we recently
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- Pastor matt: and we recently saw senate hearings where
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- Saw senate hearings where the leaders of major colleges
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- The leaders of major colleges and universities who are
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- And universities who are supposed to be the best
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- Supposed to be the best and the brightest,
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- And the brightest, educating the greatest,
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- Educating the greatest, could not answer clearly
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- Could not answer clearly that question,
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- That question, what is anti-semitism?
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- In your book,
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- In your book, "the middle east conflict"
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- "the middle east conflict" the origins of anti-semitism,
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- The origins of anti-semitism, chapter and verse,
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- Chapter and verse, page after page,
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- Page after page, sections of scripture
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- Sections of scripture and sections of history,
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- And sections of history, you clearly create a definition
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- Of anti-semitism.
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- Of anti-semitism. what is it that we as individual
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- What is it that we as individual churches can do to get this
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- Churches can do to get this issue of the jewish people,
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- Issue of the jewish people, the state of israel,
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- The state of israel, and anti-semitism right
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- And anti-semitism right in our lives?
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- In our lives? pastor john: the lord said
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- Pastor john: the lord said that the entire world
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- That the entire world will be blessed through israel,
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- Will be blessed through israel, and that has already come true.
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- And that has already come true. israel has blessed the world.
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- Israel has blessed the world. from the first family
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- From the first family of christianity, mary,
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- Of christianity, mary, joseph, and jesus,
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- Joseph, and jesus, to all of the apostles,
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- To all of the apostles, to the modern medical
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- To the modern medical and technological innovations.
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- And technological innovations. every aspect and every element
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- Every aspect and every element of our life has been touched
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- Of our life has been touched and made better by the light
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- And made better by the light of the lord through
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- Of the lord through the jewish people.
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- The jewish people. the bible records god
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- The bible records god speaking to abraham,
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- Speaking to abraham, "and in you," the jewish people,
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- "and in you," the jewish people, "all the families of the
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- "all the families of the earth shall be blessed."
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- Earth shall be blessed." that has happened.
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- That has happened. we are already richly blessed
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- We are already richly blessed by the god of israel.
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- By the god of israel. he is already keeping
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- He is already keeping his promise to us,
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- His promise to us, but the lord's
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- But the lord's blessings are boundless.
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- Blessings are boundless. the statement that,
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- The statement that, "he who blesses israel
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- "he who blesses israel will be blessed,"
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- Will be blessed," is as true today as when
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- Is as true today as when god first uttered that blessing,
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- God first uttered that blessing, like all his pronouncements
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- Like all his pronouncements will remain true for all
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- Will remain true for all time and eternity.
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- Time and eternity. pastor matt: so god's word,
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- Pastor matt: so god's word, which cannot be broken,
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- Which cannot be broken, has a covenant with
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- Has a covenant with the jewish people that
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- The jewish people that is not only connected
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- Is not only connected to the lineage of abraham,
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- To the lineage of abraham, isaac, and jacob,
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- Isaac, and jacob, that's a very important fact
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- That's a very important fact because people want to claim
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- Because people want to claim that abraham's other children
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- That abraham's other children are a part of that covenant
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- Are a part of that covenant and that's not what
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- And that's not what the bible teaches.
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- The bible teaches. pastor john: no.
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- Pastor john: no. pastor matt: abraham, isaac,
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- Pastor matt: abraham, isaac, and jacob and the land
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- And jacob and the land of israel,
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- Of israel, that's his agreement with them.
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- That's his agreement with them. it's ongoing today.
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- It's ongoing today. when we as bible-believing
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- When we as bible-believing christians stand
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- Christians stand for those principles,
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- For those principles, there's blessing
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- There's blessing that are poured out not only
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- That are poured out not only in our lives but
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- In our lives but for generations to come.
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- For generations to come. the united states,
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- The united states, when it was founded,
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- Had significant contributions
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- Had significant contributions from jewish patriots,
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- From jewish patriots, people who were in europe,
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- People who were in europe, who supported the cause
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- Who supported the cause of liberty contributed
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- To the revolutionary effort.
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- To the revolutionary effort. pastor john: absolutely.
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- Pastor john: absolutely. pastor matt: and what was
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- Pastor matt: and what was birthed is what
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- Birthed is what we now call
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- We now call the united states of america.
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- The united states of america. pastor john: right.
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- Pastor john: right. pastor matt: and in the early
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- Pastor matt: and in the early days of our government,
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- Days of our government, our leaders wanted
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- Our leaders wanted to pay tribute to the jewish
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- To pay tribute to the jewish contribution and recognized it.
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- Contribution and recognized it. and you've taught this many
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- And you've taught this many times about the significance
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- Times about the significance of the symbolism in
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- Of the symbolism in the american one dollar bill.
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- The american one dollar bill. pastor john: yes.
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- Pastor john: yes. pastor matt: however, many
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- Pastor matt: however, many americans are ignorant of that.
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- Americans are ignorant of that. pastor john: yes.
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- Pastor john: yes. pastor matt: and when you
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- Pastor matt: and when you consider the contribution
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- Consider the contribution that they made
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- That they made to the revolutionary effort,
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- To the revolutionary effort, we are blessed because their
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- We are blessed because their contribution helped us win
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- Contribution helped us win a fight that gave us the freedom
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- A fight that gave us the freedom and liberty we enjoy.
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- And liberty we enjoy. pastor john: that's
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- Pastor john: that's exactly right.
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- Exactly right. let me flesh that story out.
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- Let me flesh that story out. that one person who led that
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- That one person who led that was haym salomon,
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- He was an investment banker.
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- He was an investment banker. he himself was wealthy
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- He himself was wealthy when the revolution began.
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- When the revolution began. when he went and saw how poorly
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- When he went and saw how poorly armed george washington's army
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- Armed george washington's army was after they had been defeated
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- Was after they had been defeated two times in a row
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- Two times in a row by the british army,
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- The british army was the best
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- The british army was the best army on the face of the earth.
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- Army on the face of the earth. pastor matt: correct.
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- Pastor matt: correct. pastor john: he then took his
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- Pastor john: he then took his money and bought
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- Money and bought for the entire army, weapons,
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- For the entire army, weapons, food, shoes, clothes.
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- Food, shoes, clothes. pastor matt: basic needs.
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- Pastor matt: basic needs. pastor john: basic needs.
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- Pastor john: basic needs. they won the next fight when
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- They won the next fight when george washington crossed
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- George washington crossed the river and fought
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- The river and fought the hessians.
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- The hessians. and that fight and victory in
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- And that fight and victory in that fight was made
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- That fight was made possible because of
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- Possible because of haym salomon's contributions.
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- Haym salomon's contributions. throughout the war,
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- Throughout the war, haym salomon went to europe
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- Haym salomon went to europe and got the european jews
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- And got the european jews to help him help america.
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- To help him help america. and when it came down
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- And when it came down to six years of war
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- To six years of war and they were coming
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- And they were coming to the final fight at --
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- To the final fight at -- in new york and washington
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- In new york and washington went to his secretary of state
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- Went to his secretary of state for money,
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- For money, he said,
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- He said, "we're broke,
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- "we're broke, we don't have any money
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- We don't have any money in our national treasury."
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- In our national treasury." he said,
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- He said, "bring to me haym salomon."
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- "bring to me haym salomon." haym salomon was brought to him.
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- Haym salomon was brought to him. haym salomon raised the money.
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- Haym salomon raised the money. he went broke himself
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- He went broke himself and gave everything
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- And gave everything he had to george washington,
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- He had to george washington, and george --
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- And george -- we won that battle that
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- We won that battle that ended that war and america
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- Ended that war and america became a free nation.
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- Became a free nation. washington went
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- Washington went to haym salomon and said,
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- To haym salomon and said, "what can i do for you?"
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- He said,
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- He said, "i want nothing for myself
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- "i want nothing for myself but for the jewish people
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- But for the jewish people i would like for some
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- I would like for some form of remembrance."
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- Form of remembrance." so in every one dollar bill
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- So in every one dollar bill that you have in your
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- That you have in your pocket right now you will
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- Look inside the star burst
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- Look inside the star burst and it is the star of david,
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- And it is the star of david, and it is a tribute
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- And it is a tribute to the jewish contribution
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- To the jewish contribution to the revolution
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- To the revolution of the united sates of america.
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- Of the united sates of america. it fulfills genesis 12,
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- It fulfills genesis 12, "in you shall all the nations
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- "in you shall all the nations of the world be blessed."
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- Of the world be blessed." george washington himself said,
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- George washington himself said, "we would not have won
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- "we would not have won that war without
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- That war without haym salomon's contributions."
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- >> announcer: when we return
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- >> announcer: when we return the discussion
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- The discussion on anti-semitism continues.
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- Pastor matt: know that those
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- Pastor matt: know that those stories in history
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- Stories in history are forgotten because
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- Are forgotten because they're not being told.
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- They're not being told. and one of things that
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- And one of things that i'm privileged to have
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- In my life is a father
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- In my life is a father who educated me.
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- Who educated me. you shared those nuggets
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- You shared those nuggets of history as your learned
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- Of history as your learned them and educated yourself.
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- Them and educated yourself. one of the bible commandments
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- One of the bible commandments that god gives to fathers
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- That god gives to fathers is that they train
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- Is that they train their children,
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- Their children, they educate their children.
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- They educate their children. it starts in deuteronomy
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- It starts in deuteronomy and it echoes through
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- And it echoes through the writings of the apostle paul
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- The writings of the apostle paul in the new testament.
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- In the new testament. at no point in time
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- At no point in time are we relieved from duty
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- Are we relieved from duty when it comes to making sure
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- When it comes to making sure that our children
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- That our children know the truth.
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- Know the truth. many parents are watching
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- Many parents are watching and they're saying,
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- And they're saying, "well i don't know
- 00:17:38.942 --> 00:17:39.542
- "well i don't know where to begin."
- 00:17:39.609 --> 00:17:40.810
- Where to begin." i would recommend that you
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- Begin with this book.
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- Begin with this book. pastor, you've written
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- Pastor, you've written a very important work here
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- A very important work here and it's got a modern title,
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- And it's got a modern title, "the middle east conflict."
- 00:17:50.186 --> 00:17:52.222
- "the middle east conflict." but this middle east conflict,
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- But this middle east conflict, that's in the present newspapers
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- And on the headlines
- 00:17:56.226 --> 00:17:56.993
- And on the headlines has a very ancient root.
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- Has a very ancient root. pastor john: right.
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- Pastor john: right. pastor matt: and the ancient
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- Pastor matt: and the ancient root is the origin
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- Root is the origin of anti-semitism.
- 00:18:02.098 --> 00:18:04.033
- Of anti-semitism. sixty-seven years of ministry,
- 00:18:04.100 --> 00:18:06.903
- Sixty-seven years of ministry, 85 years of service
- 00:18:06.970 --> 00:18:10.073
- 85 years of service and living here on the earth,
- 00:18:10.140 --> 00:18:12.242
- And living here on the earth, why do you believe
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- Why do you believe that this message is a message
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- That this message is a message that you want to leave
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- That you want to leave for your children
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- For your children and for your grandchildren?
- 00:18:17.881 --> 00:18:19.549
- And for your grandchildren? and why is this a resource
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- And why is this a resource for generations to come?
- 00:18:20.850 --> 00:18:23.119
- For generations to come? pastor john: the answer
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- Pastor john: the answer is the world is backtracking.
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- Is the world is backtracking. freedom is not on the march,
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- Freedom is not on the march, it's on its heels.
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- It's on its heels. our society has allowed
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- Our society has allowed anti-semitism to rear
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- Anti-semitism to rear it's ugly head in full view
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- It's ugly head in full view and on both ends
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- And on both ends of the political spectrum.
- 00:18:39.702 --> 00:18:42.038
- Of the political spectrum. our international institutions
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- Our international institutions have become so widespread with
- 00:18:43.973 --> 00:18:46.509
- Have become so widespread with jew hatred that their words have
- 00:18:46.576 --> 00:18:49.412
- Jew hatred that their words have no meaning and their actions are
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- No meaning and their actions are a hindrance at best.
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- A hindrance at best. the world is not a better
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- The world is not a better place than it was years ago
- 00:18:55.618 --> 00:18:59.155
- Place than it was years ago because we have failed to learn
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- Because we have failed to learn the lessons of history.
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- The lessons of history. the book brings some
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- The book brings some of those important lessons
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- Of those important lessons to the forefront in the hopes
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- To the forefront in the hopes that we can stop our regression
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- That we can stop our regression into the sewer of anti-semitism.
- 00:19:11.701 --> 00:19:14.504
- Into the sewer of anti-semitism. pastor matt: so what is
- 00:19:14.571 --> 00:19:15.338
- Pastor matt: so what is your hope for our audience?
- 00:19:15.405 --> 00:19:16.806
- Your hope for our audience? when they read this book
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- When they read this book what do you pray
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- What do you pray the information does?
- 00:19:19.776 --> 00:19:21.578
- The information does? what are some of
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- What are some of the conversations that
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- The conversations that you want them to have?
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- Pastor john: when you read
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- Pastor john: when you read this book i want you
- 00:19:25.782 --> 00:19:26.883
- This book i want you to prayerfully ask the lord
- 00:19:26.950 --> 00:19:29.752
- To prayerfully ask the lord to reveal the contents
- 00:19:29.819 --> 00:19:31.454
- To reveal the contents to you in a personal way.
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- To you in a personal way. i want you to think about it.
- 00:19:33.122 --> 00:19:35.358
- I want you to think about it. i then want you to share it
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- And then i want you
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- And then i want you to act on it.
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- To act on it. if you read the book
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- If you read the book and lay it down and nothing
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- And lay it down and nothing happens, it's failed.
- 00:19:42.265 --> 00:19:45.969
- Happens, it's failed. at the end of the day,
- 00:19:46.035 --> 00:19:47.203
- At the end of the day, god gives us so much ability
- 00:19:47.270 --> 00:19:49.205
- God gives us so much ability and potential,
- 00:19:49.272 --> 00:19:51.274
- And potential, but do we use it?
- 00:19:51.341 --> 00:19:53.142
- But do we use it? every reader will know a group
- 00:19:53.209 --> 00:19:55.878
- Every reader will know a group of three or four people,
- 00:19:55.945 --> 00:19:57.981
- Of three or four people, or the people in your
- 00:19:58.047 --> 00:19:59.115
- Or the people in your sunday school class.
- 00:19:59.182 --> 00:20:01.284
- Sunday school class. readers of this book will learn
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- Readers of this book will learn about the origin of jew hatred,
- 00:20:02.785 --> 00:20:05.288
- About the origin of jew hatred, it's modern incarnations,
- 00:20:05.355 --> 00:20:08.658
- It's modern incarnations, and will have their eyes opened
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- And will have their eyes opened to its evil existence
- 00:20:10.493 --> 00:20:13.029
- To its evil existence in our world.
- 00:20:13.096 --> 00:20:14.397
- In our world. utilizing that knowledge
- 00:20:14.464 --> 00:20:16.332
- Utilizing that knowledge to combat anti-semitism is
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- To combat anti-semitism is a privilege and a responsibility
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- A privilege and a responsibility that will take on different
- 00:20:21.437 --> 00:20:22.705
- That will take on different forms for different people.
- 00:20:22.772 --> 00:20:25.575
- Forms for different people. some will need to address
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- Some will need to address it in their churches.
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- It in their churches. think about that.
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- Think about that. others at work,
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- Others at work, others at school,
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- Others at school, others at the universities,
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- Others at the universities, and others yet among
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- And others yet among elected officials.
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- Elected officials. no matter where jew hatred
- 00:20:42.592 --> 00:20:44.160
- No matter where jew hatred is found,
- 00:20:44.227 --> 00:20:45.428
- Is found, it's a cancer
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- It's a cancer and it must be stopped.
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- And it must be stopped. defend yourself against it
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- Defend yourself against it through education and combat
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- Through education and combat it with your voice.
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- It with your voice. be informed and take action.
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- Be informed and take action. pastor matt: you know,
- 00:20:58.241 --> 00:20:59.375
- Pastor matt: you know, there's a part of your story
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- There's a part of your story in your life that i'm aware of
- 00:21:01.244 --> 00:21:03.446
- In your life that i'm aware of because i was there for it.
- 00:21:03.513 --> 00:21:06.149
- Because i was there for it. and you mentioned in
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- And you mentioned in the earliest part of our program
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- The earliest part of our program that the first time
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- That the first time you went to israel,
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- You went to israel, you went in 1978 and you were,
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- You went in 1978 and you were, in essence,
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- In essence, a pilgrim,
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- A pilgrim, just a traveler.
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- Just a traveler. but when you came home,
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- But when you came home, something changed,
- 00:21:21.464 --> 00:21:22.765
- Something changed, you were now a zionist.
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- You were now a zionist. and zionist is a term that gets
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- And zionist is a term that gets used today both in the positive
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- Used today both in the positive and in the negative.
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- And in the negative. but as you just mentioned,
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- But as you just mentioned, the information
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- The information that's in your book,
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- That's in your book, "the middle east conflict:
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- "the middle east conflict: the origins of jew hatred,"
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- The origins of jew hatred," that wasn't something you
- 00:21:41.284 --> 00:21:42.085
- That wasn't something you were aware of when
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- Were aware of when you went to israel.
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- You went to israel. pastor john: that's true.
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- Pastor john: that's true. pastor matt: you were
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- Pastor matt: you were ignorant of it.
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- But as you have shared
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- But as you have shared so many times in front
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- So many times in front of audiences that you
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- Of audiences that you were praying at
- 00:21:51.761 --> 00:21:52.462
- Were praying at the western wall and you know,
- 00:21:52.528 --> 00:21:55.798
- The western wall and you know, in summary of that moment,
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- In summary of that moment, the lord gave you instructions
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- The lord gave you instructions to bring christians
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- And jews together.
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- And jews together. pastor john: right.
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- Pastor john: right. i'm standing at the western
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- I'm standing at the western praying and for whatever reason
- 00:22:04.507 --> 00:22:07.343
- Praying and for whatever reason i turned and looked over my left
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- I turned and looked over my left shoulder and i saw an elderly
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- Shoulder and i saw an elderly jewish man sitting in
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- Jewish man sitting in a rocking chair,
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- A rocking chair, white hair,
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- White hair, white beard,
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- White beard, rocking back and forth
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- Rocking back and forth kissing the bible.
- 00:22:17.854 --> 00:22:20.590
- Kissing the bible. and i'm looking at him
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- And i'm looking at him and a thought went through
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- And a thought went through my mind that had
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- My mind that had to come from heaven,
- 00:22:24.060 --> 00:22:25.461
- To come from heaven, "that man is your
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- "that man is your spiritual brother,
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- Spiritual brother, he's afraid of you
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- He's afraid of you and you don't know
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- And you don't know anything about him."
- 00:22:30.466 --> 00:22:32.268
- Anything about him." pastor matt: you're at
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- Pastor matt: you're at the same wall.
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- The same wall. pastor john: at the same wall.
- 00:22:33.469 --> 00:22:34.303
- Pastor john: at the same wall. pastor matt: you're praying
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- Pastor matt: you're praying to the same god.
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- To the same god. pastor john: yeah.
- 00:22:35.605 --> 00:22:36.172
- Pastor john: yeah. pastor matt: you're holding
- 00:22:36.239 --> 00:22:36.806
- Pastor matt: you're holding the same bible.
- 00:22:36.873 --> 00:22:37.573
- The same bible. pastor john: yeah.
- 00:22:37.640 --> 00:22:38.307
- Pastor john: yeah. pastor matt: but you have
- 00:22:38.374 --> 00:22:38.908
- Pastor matt: but you have no relationship.
- 00:22:38.975 --> 00:22:40.510
- No relationship. pastor john: yes.
- 00:22:40.576 --> 00:22:40.910
- Pastor john: yes. and then a voice said,
- 00:22:40.977 --> 00:22:41.878
- And then a voice said, "i want you to do what
- 00:22:41.944 --> 00:22:43.312
- "i want you to do what you can to bring christians
- 00:22:43.379 --> 00:22:44.647
- You can to bring christians and jews together."
- 00:22:44.714 --> 00:22:47.049
- And jews together." and i turned and faced
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- And i turned and faced the wall and i just --
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- The wall and i just -- "where did that come from?"
- 00:22:49.352 --> 00:22:52.021
- "where did that come from?" and it just would not go away.
- 00:22:52.088 --> 00:22:54.891
- And it just would not go away. it was so impactful
- 00:22:54.957 --> 00:22:56.192
- It was so impactful that i stopped praying,
- 00:22:56.259 --> 00:22:57.760
- That i stopped praying, i left the prayer wall,
- 00:22:57.827 --> 00:22:59.295
- I left the prayer wall, and went and --
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- And went and -- your mother, diana,
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- Your mother, diana, she was praying with the ladies
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- She was praying with the ladies and she came and she said,
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- And she came and she said, "you look puzzled."
- 00:23:08.704 --> 00:23:09.739
- "you look puzzled." i said,
- 00:23:09.806 --> 00:23:10.273
- I said, "i've just had something happen
- 00:23:10.339 --> 00:23:11.541
- "i've just had something happen to me that i wanna
- 00:23:11.607 --> 00:23:13.876
- To me that i wanna share with you."
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- Share with you." i said, "i feel like that
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- I said, "i feel like that we should do everything
- 00:23:16.612 --> 00:23:18.381
- We should do everything in our power to bring christians
- 00:23:18.448 --> 00:23:20.149
- In our power to bring christians and jews together without any
- 00:23:20.216 --> 00:23:22.985
- And jews together without any conversionary motive
- 00:23:23.052 --> 00:23:25.188
- Conversionary motive and to express the love
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- And to express the love of god to them."
- 00:23:26.489 --> 00:23:28.357
- Of god to them." and she said,
- 00:23:28.424 --> 00:23:29.125
- And she said, "how can you ever do that?
- 00:23:29.192 --> 00:23:30.827
- "how can you ever do that? christians and jews have been
- 00:23:30.893 --> 00:23:32.094
- Christians and jews have been fighting for 2,000 years."
- 00:23:32.161 --> 00:23:34.063
- Fighting for 2,000 years." i said,
- 00:23:34.130 --> 00:23:34.630
- I said, "well it's time
- 00:23:34.697 --> 00:23:35.198
- "well it's time for the fight to stop."
- 00:23:35.264 --> 00:23:37.233
- For the fight to stop." so i went to the harp of david
- 00:23:37.300 --> 00:23:39.702
- So i went to the harp of david and bought $400 worth of books,
- 00:23:39.769 --> 00:23:42.939
- And bought $400 worth of books, history books because
- 00:23:43.005 --> 00:23:45.341
- History books because in seminary we leaped
- 00:23:45.408 --> 00:23:46.676
- In seminary we leaped from the resurrection
- 00:23:46.742 --> 00:23:48.644
- From the resurrection to the second coming.
- 00:23:48.711 --> 00:23:51.747
- To the second coming. after 18 months of this study,
- 00:23:51.814 --> 00:23:55.985
- After 18 months of this study, i'm sitting in my chair
- 00:23:56.052 --> 00:23:57.987
- I'm sitting in my chair in our home and straining,
- 00:23:58.054 --> 00:24:02.291
- In our home and straining, how can i get this --
- 00:24:02.358 --> 00:24:04.427
- How can i get this -- pastor matt: how can
- 00:24:04.494 --> 00:24:05.428
- Pastor matt: how can you reconcile 2,000
- 00:24:05.495 --> 00:24:06.229
- You reconcile 2,000 years of offense?
- 00:24:06.295 --> 00:24:06.929
- Years of offense? pastor john: yeah, how can
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- Pastor john: yeah, how can i build this bridge?
- 00:24:07.897 --> 00:24:09.398
- I build this bridge? and right at that time,
- 00:24:09.465 --> 00:24:10.933
- And right at that time, over the television,
- 00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:12.168
- Over the television, came the news cast
- 00:24:12.235 --> 00:24:15.571
- Came the news cast that menachem begin,
- 00:24:15.638 --> 00:24:18.274
- That menachem begin, the prime minister of israel
- 00:24:18.341 --> 00:24:19.809
- The prime minister of israel had authorized the israeli
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- Had authorized the israeli air force to bomb
- 00:24:21.577 --> 00:24:22.879
- The nuclear reactor at osirak,
- 00:24:22.979 --> 00:24:26.048
- The nuclear reactor at osirak, liberating the world
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- Liberating the world from the threat
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- From the threat from this lunatic.
- 00:24:28.751 --> 00:24:30.553
- From this lunatic. and i said,
- 00:24:30.620 --> 00:24:32.221
- And i said, "this is the open door."
- 00:24:32.288 --> 00:24:34.690
- What i'm gonna do is rent
- 00:24:34.790 --> 00:24:37.093
- What i'm gonna do is rent the municipal auditorium.
- 00:24:37.159 --> 00:24:41.898
- The municipal auditorium. i'll take our church
- 00:24:41.964 --> 00:24:42.999
- I'll take our church and every church in san antonio
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- And every church in san antonio that wants to join.
- 00:24:44.867 --> 00:24:46.669
- That wants to join. and the orthodox rabbi,
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- And the orthodox rabbi, rabbi scheinberg
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- Rabbi scheinberg got involved.
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- Got involved. and he came to my office
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- And he came to my office and said,
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- And said, "pastor, what is it that
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- "pastor, what is it that you're trying to do?"
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- You're trying to do?" and i said,
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- And i said, "rabbi, i'm just trying
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- "rabbi, i'm just trying to express my appreciation,
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- To express my appreciation, our appreciation
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- Our appreciation to the jewish people
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- To the jewish people for the many wonderful things
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- For the many wonderful things they've done for our nation
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- They've done for our nation and for the world."
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- And for the world." he said,
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- He said, "i think i can make you --
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- "i think i can make you -- i think that i can
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- I think that i can help you with that."
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- Help you with that." the night of the event
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- The night of the event the building was packed.
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- The building was packed. we had a wonderful,
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- We had a wonderful, wonderful event.
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- Wonderful event. now we have pro-israel
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- Now we have pro-israel organizations functioning
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- Organizations functioning not just in america
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- Not just in america but in canada,
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- But in canada, in europe, in london.
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- In europe, in london. we as a people in this nation
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- We as a people in this nation need to become extremely focused
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- Need to become extremely focused on growing this organization.
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- On growing this organization. we've got 10 million,
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- We've got 10 million, we need 20 million
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- We need 20 million because the more you have,
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- Because the more you have, the more influence you have.
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- The more influence you have. and the days in the future
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- And the days in the future when israel is going to need us
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- When israel is going to need us desperately, they are here.
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- Desperately, they are here. they're not coming,
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- They're not coming, they're here.
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- They're here. pastor matt: what you heard
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- Pastor matt: what you heard is just a brief discussion
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- Is just a brief discussion of almost 50 years of life
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- Of almost 50 years of life in ministry for pastor hagee.
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- In ministry for pastor hagee. he's taken that knowledge
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- He's taken that knowledge and that wisdom,
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- And that wisdom, those hours of study,
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- Those hours of study, and these endless years
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- And these endless years of effort and written a book,
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- Of effort and written a book, "the middle east conflict:
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- "the middle east conflict: the origin of jew hatred."
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- The origin of jew hatred." the purpose of that book
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- The purpose of that book is not only to inform
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- Is not only to inform but to inspire.
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- And prayerfully, the inspiration
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- And prayerfully, the inspiration that you'll take away is that
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- That you'll take away is that you stand on the right side
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- You stand on the right side of history and become part
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- Of history and become part of telling the truth,
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- Of telling the truth, shining the light,
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- Shining the light, and being and advocate
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- And being and advocate and a voice for the apple
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- And a voice for the apple of god's eye,
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- Of god's eye, the jewish people
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- The jewish people and your covenant brothers,
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- And your covenant brothers, based on god's word.
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- I want to thank you
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- I want to thank you for joining us for this
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- For joining us for this important conversation
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- Important conversation and i encourage you to find
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- And i encourage you to find out more about the previous
- 00:26:49.625 --> 00:26:50.860
- Out more about the previous conversations we've had
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- Conversations we've had regarding this at jhm.org.
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