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Huckabee | September 29, 2018

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  • - Rik Roberts: Tonight on
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  • "Huckabee," Senator Mike Rounds
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  • on fair elections and
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  • nominations, Sean Spicer joins
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  • us for an insider briefing, and
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  • country artist Collin Raye
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  • - Rik: And that's Tre Corley
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  • and the Music City Connection.
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  • I'm your announcer, Rik Roberts.
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  • - Mike Huckabee: Wow!
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  • What a great crowd we have here
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  • tonight.
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  • And did you know something?
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  • This is the last show of our
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  • first year.
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  • We have completed one year of
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  • shows here in our theater in
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  • Hendersonville, Tennessee.
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  • Thank you for being a part of 52
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  • I'll tell you it's hard to
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  • believe we've been doing this a
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  • year 'cause we are having some
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  • kinda fun.
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  • It seems like we just got
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  • started and, frankly, we did.
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  • Okay, look, I learned some
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  • things raising kids and training
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  • dogs.
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  • Here is what I learned.
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  • If there is a behavior that you
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  • want more of, what do you do?
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  • You reward it.
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  • And if there is a behavior that
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  • you want less of, you
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  • consequence it.
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  • Now, I would say that you punish
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  • it, but in these days of
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  • political correctness we don't
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  • punish anymore.
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  • We just consequence it with
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  • things like timeout.
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  • Boy, I wish that had been around
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  • in my day, instead I grew up
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  • with a very patriotic father.
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  • He laid on the stripes.
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  • I saw the stars.
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  • I wonder if we applied the
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  • common sense of raising kids and
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  • training dogs to the economy.
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  • Here is what would happen.
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  • We would to reward productivity,
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  • and we would consequence
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  • inactivity.
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  • I mean, let's think about it.
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  • What would make for a strong
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  • economy?
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  • Things like work, savings,
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  • investment, and long-term
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  • planning.
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  • Those are key factors for a
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  • strong economy, but our current
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  • tax structure punishes those
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  • things.
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  • That's right.
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  • A tax is like a punishment, and
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  • we tax work with the income tax.
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  • We tax the money that you save
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  • with the tax on savings.
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  • We tax your investments if
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  • they're good, and we tax those
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  • with capital gains and tax on
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  • dividends.
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  • And if you set aside money for
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  • your latter days, as well as to
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  • leave something for the next
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  • generation, we actually tax you
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  • after you die with the state
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  • taxes, but the same tax system
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  • rewards you for not working by
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  • giving you tax-free subsidies in
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  • income, food, housing,
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  • healthcare, and transportation.
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  • And if you make a bad
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  • investment, we reward you by
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  • letting you write it off your
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  • tax obligations.
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  • If you spend every single dime
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  • and leave nothing for your final
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  • days or anything for those after
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  • you, you'll be taken care of by
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  • the government.
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  • This insanity is why I've been a
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  • strong supporter of the FairTax.
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  • Now, the FairTax is pretty
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  • simple.
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  • We eliminate the IRS all
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  • together.
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  • We get rid of them.
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  • Yes, we do, and we are not taxed
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  • on what we produce, rather we're
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  • taxed only on what we consume.
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  • Simply put, no more taxes on
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  • work, investments, savings, or
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  • dying.
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  • We pay taxes when we buy
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  • something instead of when we
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  • produce something.
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  • Of course, we understand we need
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  • some form of tax or revenue to
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  • provide for the military, roads,
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  • police, and fire departments,
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  • schools and government
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  • essentials, but the FairTax is
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  • flat, fair, finite, and
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  • family-friendly.
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  • You control how much tax you pay
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  • by how much stuff you buy, and
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  • it would mean getting your
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  • entire paycheck.
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  • Nothing would be taken out.
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  • Right now you loan the
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  • government money, and you get
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  • nothing for it.
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  • It would also mean that people
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  • who don't pay the same taxes
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  • that you do because they operate
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  • in the underground economy--I'm
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  • talking people like drug
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  • dealers, prostitutes, pimps, and
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  • gamblers.
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  • Lemme assure you they ain't
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  • filling out 1040 forms, but
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  • they'd start paying because
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  • while they may not file those
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  • tax returns, they still buy
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  • stuff, and they pay like the
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  • rest of us.
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  • Economists like Stephen Moore
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  • say the FairTax would
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  • supercharge the economy, so if
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  • it would work so well why won't
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  • the politicians pass it?
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  • Because of the dirty, little
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  • secret about the tax code.
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  • You see, the tax code is used to
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  • create winners and losers, and
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  • those who contribute to the
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  • campaigns, they get favors in
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  • the tax code, and they're the
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  • winners.
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  • And those who don't give big
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  • bucks, they don't get special
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  • treatment in the tax code, and
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  • they end up losers.
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  • I've raised kids and I've
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  • trained dogs.
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  • Formula is pretty simple and
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  • fair and taxes ought to be as
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  • simple as fair and as common
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  • sense as that, and that is my
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  • Well, my first guest was a
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  • successful businessman, as well
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  • as governor of South Dakota,
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  • before becoming that state's
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  • senator in the year 2015.
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  • He serves on five important
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  • committees, ranging from banking
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  • and small business, to the
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  • military, veterans affairs, and
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  • the environment.
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  • He spent one-on-one time with
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  • Supreme Court nominee, Brett
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  • Kavanaugh, and he's had a
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  • front-row seat for the
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  • confirmation hearings that have
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  • sometimes degenerated into a mud
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  • fight.
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  • Maybe we should ask can the
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  • Senate ever be pulled back from
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  • its worst partisan impulses.
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  • We'll talk about that right now
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  • - Mike: Maybe I should tell
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  • everybody that we've been
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  • longtime friends, served
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  • together as governors of our
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  • respective states and have spent
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  • a lot of time.
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  • Should we tell 'em that we were
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  • invited to sing the national
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  • anthem at Lambeau Field in Green
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  • Bay, Wisconsin?
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  • - Mike: Well, let's just say
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  • that Governor Huckabee was
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  • invited to sing, and he needed a
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  • chorus.
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  • Is that fair?
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  • - Mike: And you and
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  • then-Governor Dirk Kempthorne,
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  • we all went to the middle of the
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  • field, and we did it, and I'm
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  • surprised there is not a plaque
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  • up at that--
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  • - Mike: And it was amazing how
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  • bright the lights were.
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  • Lambeau Field.
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  • - Mike: That's right.
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  • Someday we'll tell you the rest
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  • of the story.
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  • One of the things you have been
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  • working on diligently is
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  • cybersecurity.
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  • You're the chairman of that
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  • subcommittee.
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  • We know it's important, but do
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  • we even wanna know how important
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  • it is?
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  • - Mike: Yeah, I think we do.
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  • Look, here is the deal.
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  • Cyber impacts everything.
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  • If you're gonna go to the bank,
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  • if you're gonna turn your water
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  • on, if you're gonna turn an
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  • electric light on, everything is
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  • connected now by computers.
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  • Same thing with the
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  • infrastructure that our national
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  • government works on with regard
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  • to financial institutions, our
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  • defense department, and so
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  • forth.
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  • Today, the United States's
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  • Department of Defense has
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  • responsibilities in air, land,
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  • sea, and also in the cyber
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  • realm, because if the bad guys
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  • can get in and impact any one of
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  • your aircraft or your ships or
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  • your armed forces that are on
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  • land, they can slow down the
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  • capabilities that we have as a
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  • nation.
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  • And so, one of our
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  • responsibilities is to expedite
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  • our ability to not only defend
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  • against those attacks coming in
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  • from overseas, but to also be
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  • able to respond aggressively and
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  • go after the bad guys before
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  • they actually hurt people in our
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  • country.
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  • - Mike: Is there any evidence
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  • at all that any foreign
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  • government--China, Russia,
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  • anybody--has tapped into our
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  • voting system and changed votes?
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  • - Mike: No.
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  • So, there's two parts to it.
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  • Number one is are they getting
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  • in and actually impacting the
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  • election systems themselves?
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  • The answer to that is no and, in
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  • fact, we're actually doing more
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  • now with the Safe Elections Act.
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  • We're spending about $380
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  • million dollars coming up to
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  • make sure that every single
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  • state has an election system
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  • that if you even suspect there
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  • is something wrong, we can go
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  • back in and audit the results to
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  • make sure nobody tampered.
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  • But the other part, the impact
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  • of them actually meddling in the
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  • information, providing
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  • propaganda, that has been
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  • ongoing.
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  • I'm gonna give the president a
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  • lotta credit for this.
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  • He did an executive order just
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  • recently, September 4, in which
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  • he made it very clear to every
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  • country out there that if they
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  • get in and they're caught
  • 00:08:54.090 --> 00:08:55.030
  • meddling in our election
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  • process, that there will be
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  • sanctions imposed rapidly by the
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  • Secretary of the Treasury and
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  • the Secretary of State, and it
  • 00:09:01.050 --> 00:09:02.230
  • will be an expedited process.
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  • - Mike: You know, I'm wondering
  • 00:09:04.260 --> 00:09:05.180
  • if we're gonna have to do
  • 00:09:05.180 --> 00:09:06.070
  • something about U.S. companies
  • 00:09:06.070 --> 00:09:08.020
  • like Google and Twitter that
  • 00:09:08.020 --> 00:09:09.290
  • seem to taint information and
  • 00:09:09.290 --> 00:09:12.030
  • lean it one way or the other,
  • 00:09:12.030 --> 00:09:13.170
  • because that is a serious issue.
  • 00:09:13.170 --> 00:09:15.160
  • How do you deal with that?
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  • - Mike: Transparency.
  • 00:09:16.250 --> 00:09:18.080
  • What we want is transparency
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  • throughout the process, which
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  • means even if these folks are
  • 00:09:21.010 --> 00:09:22.220
  • gonna try to do something--and I
  • 00:09:22.220 --> 00:09:23.260
  • truly don't believe that there's
  • 00:09:23.260 --> 00:09:25.210
  • conspiracy out there to do that,
  • 00:09:25.210 --> 00:09:27.130
  • but if there is the case where
  • 00:09:27.130 --> 00:09:28.230
  • you have individuals who can
  • 00:09:28.230 --> 00:09:29.220
  • manipulate something, the best
  • 00:09:29.220 --> 00:09:31.040
  • way to address it is
  • 00:09:31.040 --> 00:09:32.030
  • transparency, to allow people
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  • more opportunities to look at
  • 00:09:33.110 --> 00:09:34.150
  • different points of view.
  • 00:09:34.150 --> 00:09:35.240
  • It's like not having a monopoly
  • 00:09:35.240 --> 00:09:37.050
  • on good information, so the more
  • 00:09:37.050 --> 00:09:39.020
  • good data we can get from
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  • multiple sources, the better off
  • 00:09:40.250 --> 00:09:42.180
  • we're gonna be.
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  • - Mike: Senator, let's talk
  • 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:44.080
  • about the contentious nature of
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  • Washington and specifically the
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  • Senate.
  • 00:09:47.100 --> 00:09:48.010
  • We've seen it through the
  • 00:09:48.010 --> 00:09:49.030
  • Kavanaugh hearings.
  • 00:09:49.030 --> 00:09:50.000
  • It's been a rough-and-tumble
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  • moment.
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  • Do you give us any hope that
  • 00:09:54.200 --> 00:09:56.080
  • there can be some type of time
  • 00:09:56.080 --> 00:09:58.230
  • when we would return--well,
  • 00:09:58.230 --> 00:10:00.020
  • there would still be strong
  • 00:10:00.020 --> 00:10:00.280
  • differences and sharp political
  • 00:10:00.280 --> 00:10:03.020
  • battles, but civility.
  • 00:10:03.020 --> 00:10:04.240
  • - Mike: I can tell you there
  • 00:10:04.240 --> 00:10:05.170
  • are Republicans and Democrats
  • 00:10:05.170 --> 00:10:06.200
  • alike that I really respect.
  • 00:10:06.200 --> 00:10:08.230
  • They care deeply about this
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  • country.
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  • They may have different points
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  • of view about where we wanna go
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  • and how we wanna get there, but
  • 00:10:12.130 --> 00:10:14.280
  • they're good people, and they
  • 00:10:14.280 --> 00:10:16.040
  • really do care.
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  • And it doesn't make the news,
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  • but I can just tell ya there is
  • 00:10:18.160 --> 00:10:20.010
  • groups of us that do prayer
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  • breakfasts, there's groups of us
  • 00:10:21.090 --> 00:10:23.090
  • that do Bible studies, and we do
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  • it in a bipartisan basis.
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  • We sit down, and we do it
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  • together.
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  • You can't do anything in the
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  • United States Senate without
  • 00:10:29.150 --> 00:10:30.080
  • bipartisan work, but take a look
  • 00:10:30.080 --> 00:10:31.260
  • at what we've been able to do,
  • 00:10:31.260 --> 00:10:33.150
  • and this may sound like it's not
  • 00:10:33.150 --> 00:10:35.030
  • much, but for the Senate this is
  • 00:10:35.030 --> 00:10:36.170
  • a lot.
  • 00:10:36.170 --> 00:10:38.110
  • First of all, we've actually
  • 00:10:38.110 --> 00:10:40.170
  • passed the National Defense
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  • Authorization Act for the
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  • earliest time in literally
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  • decades.
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  • We did it, and this is the new
  • 00:10:45.110 --> 00:10:46.180
  • John S. McCain National Defense
  • 00:10:46.180 --> 00:10:48.220
  • Authorization Act.
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  • This is already done.
  • 00:10:50.030 --> 00:10:51.040
  • It's passed, and it isn't
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  • even--it isn't October yet.
  • 00:10:52.110 --> 00:10:55.110
  • This is just unheard of in the,
  • 00:10:55.110 --> 00:10:57.240
  • you know, the current situation
  • 00:10:57.240 --> 00:10:58.250
  • in Washington.
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  • We've actually agreed to a
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  • budget for two years in a row.
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  • We've actually got an
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  • appropriations process that will
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  • do defense and non-defense
  • 00:11:05.250 --> 00:11:08.060
  • spending, which is only about
  • 00:11:08.060 --> 00:11:09.180
  • 30% of the budget, but we're
  • 00:11:09.180 --> 00:11:11.110
  • gonna have more than
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  • three-quarters of it done before
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  • October 1.
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  • Some people will say, "You ought
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  • to have the whole thing done,"
  • 00:11:15.150 --> 00:11:16.110
  • and I agree, but it hasn't been
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  • done in over 20 years.
  • 00:11:18.090 --> 00:11:20.030
  • But we're doing it because we're
  • 00:11:20.030 --> 00:11:21.240
  • working side by side to try to
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  • show the American people that we
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  • really do wanna get some things
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  • done.
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  • - Mike: And I hope you can be
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  • successful at it, because the
  • 00:11:27.050 --> 00:11:28.050
  • country depends upon it.
  • 00:11:28.050 --> 00:11:29.220
  • Senator, it is great having you
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  • here.
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  • It's great to see you.
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  • Give my best to Jean, your
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  • family.
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  • - Mike: And to you, Janet.
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  • - Mike: Wonderful, wonderful
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  • folks you are, South Dakota
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  • people.
  • 00:11:38.100 --> 00:11:39.030
  • Salt of the earth and--
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  • - Mike: What you see here, what
  • 00:11:40.270 --> 00:11:42.030
  • you see with this gentleman in
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  • front of the cameras is the way
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  • he is in real life every single
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  • day.
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  • He's the real guy, and I just
  • 00:11:48.140 --> 00:11:50.030
  • really appreciate the
  • 00:11:50.030 --> 00:11:51.000
  • opportunity.
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  • - Mike: That is very kind.
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  • Thank you.
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  • - Mike: Thank you.
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  • - Mike: I appreciate.
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  • Thank you very much.
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  • - Mike: Bye-bye.
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  • - Mike: Well, my thanks to
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  • Senator Mike Rounds for joining
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  • us.
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  • I hope that senators like Mike
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  • Rounds can help some sanity
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  • prevail and decency could be
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  • restored to the functions of our
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  • government.
  • 00:12:08.080 --> 00:12:09.100
  • If you'd like to keep up with
  • 00:12:09.100 --> 00:12:10.040
  • him online, visit
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  • rounds.senate.gov.
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  • Okay, Rik, what else we got
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  • - Rik: Coming up, former White
  • 00:12:19.090 --> 00:12:20.110
  • House press secretary, Sean
  • 00:12:20.110 --> 00:12:21.160
  • Spicer, and later meet the one
  • 00:12:21.160 --> 00:12:23.140
  • and only "Chewbacca mom,"
  • 00:12:23.140 --> 00:12:25.030
  • Candace Payne.
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  • Plus, country music star, Collin
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  • Raye.
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  • - Mike: My next guest's former
  • 00:12:43.110 --> 00:12:44.180
  • job was President Trump's press
  • 00:12:44.180 --> 00:12:46.040
  • secretary.
  • 00:12:46.040 --> 00:12:47.040
  • That is before someone I know
  • 00:12:47.040 --> 00:12:48.140
  • rather well ended up with the
  • 00:12:48.140 --> 00:12:49.210
  • job, but before that turn in the
  • 00:12:49.210 --> 00:12:51.280
  • media rotisserie he had a long
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  • career in the top levels of
  • 00:12:54.080 --> 00:12:55.230
  • Republican politics.
  • 00:12:55.230 --> 00:12:57.080
  • He's an in-demand speaker,
  • 00:12:57.080 --> 00:12:58.200
  • consultant, bestselling author
  • 00:12:58.200 --> 00:13:00.100
  • of the first book by a top-level
  • 00:13:00.100 --> 00:13:02.120
  • Trump insider, and I've got it
  • 00:13:02.120 --> 00:13:04.130
  • right here.
  • 00:13:04.130 --> 00:13:05.030
  • It's called "The Briefing:
  • 00:13:05.030 --> 00:13:06.060
  • Politics, the Press, and the
  • 00:13:06.060 --> 00:13:07.130
  • President."
  • 00:13:07.130 --> 00:13:08.160
  • Please welcome Sean Spicer.
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  • Sean, great having you here.
  • 00:13:10.130 --> 00:13:11.270
  • [cheering and applauding]
  • 00:13:12.270 --> 00:13:15.270
  • It's very apparent that the
  • 00:13:15.270 --> 00:13:17.190
  • response you're getting from
  • 00:13:17.190 --> 00:13:18.170
  • this audience is a little
  • 00:13:18.170 --> 00:13:20.010
  • different than the one you got
  • 00:13:20.010 --> 00:13:21.000
  • in the press room.
  • 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:21.230
  • - Sean Spicer: Slightly.
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  • - Mike: How hard was it to walk
  • 00:13:23.160 --> 00:13:25.030
  • into what from day one was an
  • 00:13:25.030 --> 00:13:27.200
  • incredibly hostile and
  • 00:13:27.200 --> 00:13:29.140
  • antagonistic environment?
  • 00:13:29.140 --> 00:13:31.210
  • - Sean: Yes.
  • 00:13:31.210 --> 00:13:33.280
  • Look, I'm the first person to
  • 00:13:33.280 --> 00:13:35.030
  • admit I've screwed up.
  • 00:13:35.030 --> 00:13:36.100
  • I've made mistakes.
  • 00:13:36.100 --> 00:13:38.010
  • There are days when I wasn't
  • 00:13:38.010 --> 00:13:39.030
  • proud of my behavior or the tone
  • 00:13:39.030 --> 00:13:41.270
  • and tenor, or I thought to
  • 00:13:41.270 --> 00:13:42.230
  • myself as someone whose faith
  • 00:13:43.120 --> 00:13:46.120
  • has guided them, I said, "You
  • 00:13:46.120 --> 00:13:47.130
  • know, God definitely thought I
  • 00:13:47.130 --> 00:13:48.260
  • could have done a better job
  • 00:13:48.260 --> 00:13:49.210
  • today."
  • 00:13:49.210 --> 00:13:50.280
  • But I said, "I wanna try to do
  • 00:13:50.280 --> 00:13:52.290
  • better tomorrow," and yet there
  • 00:13:52.290 --> 00:13:54.150
  • is a lack of forgiveness, I
  • 00:13:54.150 --> 00:13:55.240
  • think, in that room for a lot of
  • 00:13:55.240 --> 00:13:56.250
  • folks that is not--
  • 00:13:56.250 --> 00:13:57.250
  • - Mike: Did you ever wanna just
  • 00:13:57.250 --> 00:13:58.170
  • jump over the podium and go out
  • 00:13:58.170 --> 00:13:59.200
  • there and use some of those Navy
  • 00:13:59.200 --> 00:14:01.130
  • skills?
  • 00:14:01.130 --> 00:14:02.020
  • 'Cause you were a Navy guy and
  • 00:14:02.020 --> 00:14:03.280
  • there's a little bit of an
  • 00:14:03.280 --> 00:14:04.290
  • Irishman in Sean Spicer.
  • 00:14:04.290 --> 00:14:06.220
  • - Sean: A little bit, yeah.
  • 00:14:06.220 --> 00:14:08.170
  • Oh, yeah, that happened multiple
  • 00:14:08.170 --> 00:14:09.260
  • times of briefing, where
  • 00:14:09.260 --> 00:14:11.120
  • you--but I had a feeling that
  • 00:14:11.120 --> 00:14:14.000
  • that would turn into another
  • 00:14:14.000 --> 00:14:14.230
  • meme.
  • 00:14:14.230 --> 00:14:16.180
  • - Mike: Oh, there is no doubt
  • 00:14:16.180 --> 00:14:17.100
  • that it would have.
  • 00:14:17.100 --> 00:14:18.050
  • The press secretary, probably
  • 00:14:18.050 --> 00:14:19.110
  • more than anyone, maybe other
  • 00:14:19.110 --> 00:14:20.220
  • than the chief of staff, is
  • 00:14:20.220 --> 00:14:22.150
  • maybe the person who's in and
  • 00:14:22.150 --> 00:14:23.140
  • out of the Oval Office more than
  • 00:14:23.140 --> 00:14:24.170
  • anybody, so I think your book
  • 00:14:24.170 --> 00:14:26.100
  • has some authority that maybe
  • 00:14:26.100 --> 00:14:28.090
  • Bob Woodward's book does not
  • 00:14:28.090 --> 00:14:30.220
  • have.
  • 00:14:30.220 --> 00:14:31.130
  • - Sean: Whereas someone else
  • 00:14:31.130 --> 00:14:32.120
  • from the outside is relying on
  • 00:14:32.120 --> 00:14:33.200
  • other people's accounts that in
  • 00:14:33.200 --> 00:14:35.210
  • many cases are seeking to, you
  • 00:14:35.210 --> 00:14:37.270
  • know, either rewrite history or
  • 00:14:37.270 --> 00:14:39.240
  • to advance someone's personal
  • 00:14:39.240 --> 00:14:41.050
  • agenda or go after somebody that
  • 00:14:41.050 --> 00:14:43.020
  • they may have a grudge against,
  • 00:14:43.020 --> 00:14:44.120
  • my goal in this book was to talk
  • 00:14:44.120 --> 00:14:46.150
  • about who I am as a person and
  • 00:14:46.150 --> 00:14:48.090
  • give people some
  • 00:14:48.090 --> 00:14:49.030
  • behind-the-scenes looks at the
  • 00:14:49.280 --> 00:14:52.280
  • convention, the campaign, and
  • 00:14:52.280 --> 00:14:54.200
  • even the White House, the first
  • 00:14:54.200 --> 00:14:55.200
  • six months, to talk about what
  • 00:14:55.200 --> 00:14:56.240
  • it's like every day to be there,
  • 00:14:56.240 --> 00:14:58.260
  • some of the interactions that
  • 00:14:58.260 --> 00:14:59.290
  • you had and what they felt like.
  • 00:14:59.290 --> 00:15:01.160
  • - Mike: How frustrating was it,
  • 00:15:01.160 --> 00:15:03.250
  • is it when people who say they
  • 00:15:03.250 --> 00:15:05.170
  • were in the middle of the White
  • 00:15:05.170 --> 00:15:06.110
  • House leak and they tell things
  • 00:15:06.110 --> 00:15:09.050
  • and they, in essence, betray the
  • 00:15:09.050 --> 00:15:10.170
  • very person who gives them a
  • 00:15:10.170 --> 00:15:11.180
  • paycheck?
  • 00:15:11.180 --> 00:15:13.080
  • - Sean: It's horrible.
  • 00:15:13.080 --> 00:15:14.210
  • I've never been--you know, 20
  • 00:15:14.210 --> 00:15:16.160
  • years in--almost 20 years in the
  • 00:15:16.160 --> 00:15:17.250
  • military, 10 different members
  • 00:15:17.250 --> 00:15:19.150
  • of Congress and countless other
  • 00:15:19.150 --> 00:15:20.180
  • folks, I've never been in an
  • 00:15:20.180 --> 00:15:21.140
  • organization where you can't
  • 00:15:21.140 --> 00:15:22.240
  • trust people the way that you
  • 00:15:22.240 --> 00:15:23.240
  • can't there, and it's--I think
  • 00:15:23.240 --> 00:15:24.270
  • that is a disservice to the
  • 00:15:24.270 --> 00:15:26.070
  • president, but a greater
  • 00:15:26.070 --> 00:15:27.160
  • disservice to the country.
  • 00:15:27.160 --> 00:15:29.040
  • You are there--
  • 00:15:29.040 --> 00:15:30.110
  • [audience applauding]
  • 00:15:30.110 --> 00:15:33.050
  • If you don't believe it's an
  • 00:15:33.050 --> 00:15:34.170
  • honor and privilege every day to
  • 00:15:34.170 --> 00:15:36.190
  • be there, then you should leave.
  • 00:15:36.190 --> 00:15:37.290
  • I remember when I walked out.
  • 00:15:37.290 --> 00:15:39.040
  • The last day I walked out with
  • 00:15:39.040 --> 00:15:40.030
  • Sarah and a couple of the other
  • 00:15:40.030 --> 00:15:41.240
  • folks, and there is a picture in
  • 00:15:41.240 --> 00:15:43.220
  • the middle of the book.
  • 00:15:43.220 --> 00:15:45.040
  • The gate to the White House was
  • 00:15:45.040 --> 00:15:46.180
  • closing.
  • 00:15:46.180 --> 00:15:47.060
  • We were going out afterwards to
  • 00:15:47.060 --> 00:15:48.020
  • celebrate, and we walked out the
  • 00:15:48.020 --> 00:15:50.120
  • South Lawn, and the gate to the
  • 00:15:50.120 --> 00:15:51.260
  • White House had opened up to let
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  • us out.
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  • The secret service agent opened
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  • it, and they turned around, and
  • 00:15:54.280 --> 00:15:55.250
  • I said, "Guys, can we stop for a
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  • moment?"
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  • I turned, and I watched that
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  • gate close, and I took a picture
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  • of it.
  • 00:16:00.020 --> 00:16:01.240
  • You have to understand--and I
  • 00:16:01.240 --> 00:16:03.080
  • know you get this from--you
  • 00:16:03.080 --> 00:16:04.140
  • know, you can't just--I mean,
  • 00:16:04.140 --> 00:16:05.130
  • you probably can walk back into
  • 00:16:05.130 --> 00:16:06.090
  • the governor's mansion, but--
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  • - Mike: No, they won't let me
  • 00:16:07.290 --> 00:16:08.200
  • back in.
  • 00:16:08.200 --> 00:16:09.100
  • They've asked me never to show
  • 00:16:09.100 --> 00:16:10.010
  • up again.
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  • - Sean: The White House is that
  • 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:11.220
  • special of a place.
  • 00:16:11.220 --> 00:16:12.180
  • You can't just walk back in, and
  • 00:16:12.180 --> 00:16:13.140
  • I knew that, yeah, the agent
  • 00:16:13.140 --> 00:16:15.060
  • probably knew my name, but the
  • 00:16:15.060 --> 00:16:16.050
  • second that gate closed it was
  • 00:16:16.050 --> 00:16:17.180
  • my last day, and you can't just
  • 00:16:17.180 --> 00:16:19.070
  • go back in.
  • 00:16:19.070 --> 00:16:19.280
  • And I wanted to reflect on how
  • 00:16:19.280 --> 00:16:22.100
  • special that day was and that
  • 00:16:22.100 --> 00:16:24.230
  • moment was gonna be in my life
  • 00:16:24.230 --> 00:16:26.100
  • going forward.
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  • - Mike: You could have written
  • 00:16:27.190 --> 00:16:29.040
  • a tacky tell-all if you wanted
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  • to.
  • 00:16:30.260 --> 00:16:31.150
  • You could have made stuff up, or
  • 00:16:31.150 --> 00:16:32.120
  • you could have told the worst
  • 00:16:32.120 --> 00:16:33.100
  • things about this White House
  • 00:16:33.100 --> 00:16:35.130
  • and the presidency.
  • 00:16:35.130 --> 00:16:36.060
  • You did not.
  • 00:16:36.060 --> 00:16:37.210
  • Is it because you believe that
  • 00:16:37.210 --> 00:16:39.260
  • there is a lot going on there
  • 00:16:39.260 --> 00:16:41.050
  • that the public does not really
  • 00:16:41.050 --> 00:16:42.250
  • appreciate or understand?
  • 00:16:42.250 --> 00:16:44.150
  • - Sean: No, if someone can't
  • 00:16:44.150 --> 00:16:45.190
  • trust you, can't trust your
  • 00:16:45.190 --> 00:16:47.110
  • word, can't trust that you're
  • 00:16:47.110 --> 00:16:48.170
  • gonna--to give you counsel and
  • 00:16:48.170 --> 00:16:50.210
  • advice then go around and share
  • 00:16:50.210 --> 00:16:53.040
  • with the world what you've told
  • 00:16:53.040 --> 00:16:54.100
  • them, or share some of the
  • 00:16:54.100 --> 00:16:55.190
  • interaction that you had, then
  • 00:16:55.190 --> 00:16:56.180
  • what--how can the next person
  • 00:16:56.180 --> 00:16:57.230
  • trust you?
  • 00:16:57.230 --> 00:16:58.160
  • So, you'll notice I've worked
  • 00:16:58.160 --> 00:16:59.160
  • for over ten members of
  • 00:16:59.160 --> 00:17:00.150
  • Congress.
  • 00:17:00.150 --> 00:17:01.050
  • There's not I don't think a
  • 00:17:01.050 --> 00:17:01.270
  • negative word about a single one
  • 00:17:01.270 --> 00:17:02.250
  • of them.
  • 00:17:02.250 --> 00:17:03.250
  • I don't want--I would rather
  • 00:17:03.250 --> 00:17:04.280
  • make less money and sell less
  • 00:17:04.280 --> 00:17:06.080
  • books, but have people saying,
  • 00:17:06.080 --> 00:17:07.220
  • "You know what?
  • 00:17:07.220 --> 00:17:08.090
  • He's someone who's loyal and
  • 00:17:08.090 --> 00:17:09.010
  • trustworthy to me."
  • 00:17:09.010 --> 00:17:10.080
  • That is a quality that--if
  • 00:17:10.080 --> 00:17:13.030
  • that's the knock against me,
  • 00:17:13.030 --> 00:17:14.080
  • I'll take it every day of the
  • 00:17:14.080 --> 00:17:15.010
  • week.
  • 00:17:15.010 --> 00:17:15.220
  • - Mike: Sean, I think there's a
  • 00:17:15.220 --> 00:17:16.140
  • simple word that sums that up.
  • 00:17:16.140 --> 00:17:17.210
  • It's called integrity, and you
  • 00:17:17.210 --> 00:17:19.120
  • have it.
  • 00:17:19.120 --> 00:17:20.100
  • You're also doing some, I think,
  • 00:17:20.100 --> 00:17:21.250
  • some maybe incredible work with
  • 00:17:21.250 --> 00:17:23.290
  • what's called the Independence
  • 00:17:23.290 --> 00:17:24.270
  • Fund.
  • 00:17:24.270 --> 00:17:25.140
  • I want you to tell me a little
  • 00:17:25.140 --> 00:17:26.050
  • bit about what that is about.
  • 00:17:26.050 --> 00:17:27.270
  • - Sean: It's an organization
  • 00:17:27.270 --> 00:17:28.240
  • that raises money specifically
  • 00:17:28.240 --> 00:17:31.030
  • for adaptable wheelchairs so
  • 00:17:31.030 --> 00:17:32.160
  • that injured service members who
  • 00:17:32.160 --> 00:17:34.220
  • enjoyed a quality of life in the
  • 00:17:34.220 --> 00:17:36.140
  • past, like to do things like
  • 00:17:36.140 --> 00:17:37.260
  • hunting and fishing and skiing,
  • 00:17:37.260 --> 00:17:39.250
  • that no longer are able to do
  • 00:17:39.250 --> 00:17:41.040
  • that because--in the way that
  • 00:17:41.040 --> 00:17:42.140
  • they did prior to their injury,
  • 00:17:42.140 --> 00:17:43.250
  • have the opportunity.
  • 00:17:43.250 --> 00:17:45.130
  • The Independence Fund raises the
  • 00:17:45.130 --> 00:17:46.130
  • money, brings them adaptable
  • 00:17:46.130 --> 00:17:48.030
  • wheelchairs, adaptable sporting
  • 00:17:48.030 --> 00:17:49.220
  • equipment like rowing machines
  • 00:17:49.220 --> 00:17:51.090
  • so that they can get out back on
  • 00:17:51.090 --> 00:17:52.140
  • the water.
  • 00:17:52.140 --> 00:17:53.020
  • That they can go skiing.
  • 00:17:53.020 --> 00:17:53.240
  • They can go hunting.
  • 00:17:53.240 --> 00:17:54.190
  • They can enjoy the outdoors to
  • 00:17:54.190 --> 00:17:56.080
  • maybe not the same degree that
  • 00:17:56.080 --> 00:17:57.230
  • they did before their injury,
  • 00:17:57.230 --> 00:17:59.080
  • but at a level that they can't
  • 00:17:59.080 --> 00:18:00.220
  • currently without it.
  • 00:18:00.220 --> 00:18:02.210
  • - Mike: We have a special guest
  • 00:18:02.210 --> 00:18:04.000
  • here tonight.
  • 00:18:04.000 --> 00:18:04.260
  • J.C. Cook is with us and for
  • 00:18:04.260 --> 00:18:07.130
  • eight years he served honorably
  • 00:18:07.130 --> 00:18:09.100
  • in the United States Navy.
  • 00:18:09.100 --> 00:18:11.090
  • He broke his leg while working,
  • 00:18:11.090 --> 00:18:13.210
  • had an unfortunate surgery that
  • 00:18:13.210 --> 00:18:15.140
  • led to an amputation because of
  • 00:18:15.140 --> 00:18:17.010
  • an infection, forced out of the
  • 00:18:17.010 --> 00:18:18.290
  • military, struggled to get back
  • 00:18:18.290 --> 00:18:21.130
  • into civilian life because of
  • 00:18:21.130 --> 00:18:23.050
  • the extraordinary disability,
  • 00:18:23.050 --> 00:18:26.030
  • has a great love of outdoors,
  • 00:18:26.030 --> 00:18:27.170
  • loves to hunt, loves to be
  • 00:18:27.170 --> 00:18:29.200
  • outdoors, but it's really
  • 00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:31.080
  • difficult because of the
  • 00:18:31.080 --> 00:18:32.190
  • mobility concerns.
  • 00:18:32.190 --> 00:18:34.050
  • So, we'd like to introduce him
  • 00:18:34.050 --> 00:18:35.260
  • to you, and Sean is very much a
  • 00:18:36.040 --> 00:18:39.040
  • part of making it possible for
  • 00:18:39.040 --> 00:18:41.000
  • J.C. to have the mobility that
  • 00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:43.190
  • he wouldn't have had without the
  • 00:18:43.190 --> 00:18:45.040
  • Independence Fund.
  • 00:18:45.040 --> 00:18:46.030
  • - Mike: How are you doing?
  • 00:19:03.030 --> 00:19:03.230
  • - J.C. Cook: Thanks so much.
  • 00:19:03.230 --> 00:19:04.220
  • - Mike: Great to see you.
  • 00:19:04.220 --> 00:19:06.100
  • Well, J.C. you earned that
  • 00:19:16.020 --> 00:19:19.020
  • ovation right there, and I wanna
  • 00:19:19.020 --> 00:19:20.210
  • say thanks on behalf of all of
  • 00:19:20.210 --> 00:19:22.250
  • us who benefit from the service
  • 00:19:22.250 --> 00:19:24.150
  • of folks like you.
  • 00:19:24.150 --> 00:19:26.190
  • I gotta tell you this is a
  • 00:19:26.190 --> 00:19:27.140
  • pretty cool rig and when you
  • 00:19:27.140 --> 00:19:28.120
  • drove it out here the one thing
  • 00:19:28.120 --> 00:19:29.090
  • I was hoping, you didn't run
  • 00:19:29.090 --> 00:19:30.020
  • over my foot with it, and you
  • 00:19:30.020 --> 00:19:32.020
  • didn't.
  • 00:19:32.020 --> 00:19:32.200
  • You drive it pretty well.
  • 00:19:32.200 --> 00:19:34.120
  • What will this particular device
  • 00:19:34.270 --> 00:19:37.270
  • mean for you?
  • 00:19:37.270 --> 00:19:40.020
  • - J.C.: You know, this
  • 00:19:40.020 --> 00:19:42.200
  • Trackchair means freedom for me.
  • 00:19:43.230 --> 00:19:46.230
  • There is a lot of times with the
  • 00:19:46.230 --> 00:19:48.090
  • prosthetic leg where you get too
  • 00:19:48.090 --> 00:19:50.210
  • much skin breakdown.
  • 00:19:50.210 --> 00:19:51.290
  • If I do too much activity one
  • 00:19:51.290 --> 00:19:53.090
  • day, I'm not able to wear my leg
  • 00:19:53.090 --> 00:19:55.140
  • for two to three days while the
  • 00:19:55.140 --> 00:19:57.040
  • skin repairs itself, and with
  • 00:19:58.080 --> 00:20:01.080
  • this chair, no matter how my
  • 00:20:01.080 --> 00:20:03.040
  • leg's feeling, instead of being
  • 00:20:03.040 --> 00:20:05.040
  • trapped on the couch for those
  • 00:20:05.040 --> 00:20:06.110
  • two to three days, I can do like
  • 00:20:06.110 --> 00:20:08.180
  • I did this last weekend and went
  • 00:20:08.180 --> 00:20:11.080
  • dove hunting for three days with
  • 00:20:11.080 --> 00:20:13.090
  • the help of a organization
  • 00:20:13.090 --> 00:20:15.030
  • called Make a Difference
  • 00:20:15.030 --> 00:20:15.290
  • Outdoor, whose primary mission
  • 00:20:15.290 --> 00:20:18.260
  • is to get vets and disabled
  • 00:20:18.260 --> 00:20:21.210
  • people to get out of the house,
  • 00:20:21.260 --> 00:20:24.260
  • be able to try to live a normal
  • 00:20:24.260 --> 00:20:27.030
  • life, and, you know, not have
  • 00:20:27.030 --> 00:20:29.290
  • excuses.
  • 00:20:29.290 --> 00:20:30.260
  • - Sean: The Independence Fund
  • 00:20:30.260 --> 00:20:31.180
  • has helped over 2.000 veterans
  • 00:20:31.180 --> 00:20:32.270
  • have that level of freedom that
  • 00:20:32.270 --> 00:20:34.200
  • J.C. has now, and it is--they
  • 00:20:34.200 --> 00:20:37.130
  • are so deserving of it, to get
  • 00:20:37.130 --> 00:20:38.220
  • back just that piece of life.
  • 00:20:38.220 --> 00:20:40.120
  • You know, J.C. talked about
  • 00:20:40.120 --> 00:20:41.270
  • being outside and just that
  • 00:20:41.270 --> 00:20:43.130
  • ability to go back and do what
  • 00:20:43.130 --> 00:20:44.180
  • they love to do after the
  • 00:20:44.180 --> 00:20:46.090
  • service that they've provided to
  • 00:20:46.090 --> 00:20:47.220
  • this country is just a small way
  • 00:20:47.220 --> 00:20:49.270
  • that the Independence Fund is
  • 00:20:49.270 --> 00:20:50.260
  • helping to give back to these
  • 00:20:50.260 --> 00:20:51.240
  • folks.
  • 00:20:51.240 --> 00:20:52.260
  • - Mike: I wanna commend Sean
  • 00:20:52.260 --> 00:20:54.200
  • Spicer's bestselling book.
  • 00:20:54.200 --> 00:20:56.160
  • I hope you'll get a copy of it.
  • 00:20:56.160 --> 00:20:57.230
  • It's called "The Briefing:
  • 00:20:57.230 --> 00:20:58.270
  • Politics, the Press, and the
  • 00:20:58.270 --> 00:21:00.140
  • President."
  • 00:21:00.140 --> 00:21:01.210
  • I wanna tell you it's a lot more
  • 00:21:01.210 --> 00:21:03.140
  • trustworthy than most of the
  • 00:21:03.140 --> 00:21:05.150
  • books about the Trump White
  • 00:21:05.150 --> 00:21:06.220
  • House, and I can attest to that,
  • 00:21:06.220 --> 00:21:09.070
  • and I think if you really wanna
  • 00:21:09.070 --> 00:21:10.150
  • know what's going on you'll get
  • 00:21:10.150 --> 00:21:12.000
  • Sean Spicer's book and get a lot
  • 00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:14.160
  • more information.
  • 00:21:14.160 --> 00:21:15.130
  • You can find it at all major
  • 00:21:15.130 --> 00:21:16.280
  • book retailers.
  • 00:21:16.280 --> 00:21:17.260
  • It's all over the place.
  • 00:21:17.260 --> 00:21:19.050
  • You can also get autographed
  • 00:21:19.050 --> 00:21:20.010
  • copies, as well as listen to
  • 00:21:20.010 --> 00:21:21.250
  • Sean's podcast at
  • 00:21:21.250 --> 00:21:23.200
  • SeanSpicer.com.
  • 00:21:23.200 --> 00:21:25.220
  • That's pretty easy.
  • 00:21:25.220 --> 00:21:27.020
  • Follow @SeanSpicer on Twitter,
  • 00:21:27.020 --> 00:21:29.170
  • as well.
  • 00:21:29.170 --> 00:21:30.140
  • Sean, thank you.
  • 00:21:30.140 --> 00:21:31.220
  • J.C., thank you.
  • 00:21:31.220 --> 00:21:33.080
  • Honored to have both you
  • 00:21:33.080 --> 00:21:34.130
  • gentleman here.
  • 00:21:34.130 --> 00:21:35.030
  • Rik, tell us what we have to
  • 00:21:35.030 --> 00:21:36.220
  • spice up the rest of the night.
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  • - Rik: Up next, hilarious
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  • headlines on "In Case You Missed
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  • It," and "New York Times"
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  • best-selling author Ronald
  • 00:21:43.110 --> 00:21:44.190
  • Kessler reveals how President
  • 00:21:44.190 --> 00:21:46.140
  • Donald Trump is changing the
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  • rules of the game in Washington.
  • 00:21:47.260 --> 00:21:50.010
  • All this and more on "Huckabee"
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  • - Mike: Our first president,
  • 00:22:08.180 --> 00:22:09.140
  • George Washington, once
  • 00:22:09.140 --> 00:22:10.210
  • declared, "The Constitution is
  • 00:22:10.210 --> 00:22:12.210
  • the guide which I will never
  • 00:22:12.210 --> 00:22:14.050
  • abandon."
  • 00:22:14.050 --> 00:22:15.170
  • He and our first citizens
  • 00:22:15.170 --> 00:22:16.180
  • sacrificed sweat, blood, and
  • 00:22:16.180 --> 00:22:18.240
  • their very lives to give us the
  • 00:22:18.240 --> 00:22:20.260
  • amazing country we call America,
  • 00:22:20.260 --> 00:22:23.090
  • as well as to give us the
  • 00:22:23.090 --> 00:22:24.120
  • Constitution that guides us and
  • 00:22:24.120 --> 00:22:26.170
  • our leaders.
  • 00:22:26.170 --> 00:22:27.250
  • Isn't it time you had a
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  • refresher on this amazing
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  • document and all that it has
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  • given you and your family?
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  • Well, if you can visit Hillsdale
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  • College online today, you can
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  • fantastic free course, yes, free
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  • course on the U.S. Constitution
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  • and why we have to understand it
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  • and protect it in order to
  • 00:22:45.210 --> 00:22:47.070
  • preserve our liberties and
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  • freedom.
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  • Join Hillsdale for this free
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  • All right, from a criminal who
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  • was foiled by his slacks, to a
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  • criminal apprehended by toxic
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  • algae, we've got unbelievable
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  • but true stories for you in a
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  • little segment that we like to
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  • In case you missed it.
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  • In case you missed it.
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  • In case you missed it.
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  • - Mike: "Dateline."
  • 00:23:13.120 --> 00:23:14.030
  • Aurora, Colorado.
  • 00:23:14.030 --> 00:23:15.050
  • A robber was caught on
  • 00:23:15.050 --> 00:23:16.000
  • surveillance video attempting to
  • 00:23:16.000 --> 00:23:17.160
  • rob a merchant, and his efforts
  • 00:23:17.160 --> 00:23:19.190
  • look like a real-life version of
  • 00:23:19.190 --> 00:23:21.210
  • Woody Allen's classic comedy,
  • 00:23:21.210 --> 00:23:23.180
  • "Take the Money and Run."
  • 00:23:23.180 --> 00:23:25.000
  • The would-be thief entered an
  • 00:23:25.000 --> 00:23:26.250
  • e-cigarette store and yanked out
  • 00:23:26.250 --> 00:23:29.090
  • a pistol, but it slipped out of
  • 00:23:29.090 --> 00:23:31.130
  • his hand and went sliding across
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  • the counter to the clerk.
  • 00:23:32.240 --> 00:23:35.010
  • She picked up the pistol and
  • 00:23:35.010 --> 00:23:36.170
  • suddenly his plan was going up
  • 00:23:36.170 --> 00:23:38.220
  • in smoke.
  • 00:23:38.220 --> 00:23:41.000
  • Changing movie themes, he
  • 00:23:41.000 --> 00:23:42.280
  • attempted a ninja-style kick to
  • 00:23:42.280 --> 00:23:44.270
  • the door in his escape, but he
  • 00:23:44.270 --> 00:23:46.280
  • wasn't wearing a black belt.
  • 00:23:46.280 --> 00:23:49.140
  • Fact of the matter, he wasn't
  • 00:23:49.140 --> 00:23:50.180
  • wearing any belt, and his pants
  • 00:23:50.180 --> 00:23:52.080
  • fell to his ankles to slow his
  • 00:23:52.080 --> 00:23:54.060
  • getaway.
  • 00:23:54.060 --> 00:23:56.000
  • Folks, you know you're having a
  • 00:23:56.000 --> 00:23:57.050
  • bad day when your pants falling
  • 00:23:57.050 --> 00:23:59.060
  • down is only the second worst
  • 00:23:59.060 --> 00:24:01.110
  • thing that happens at your job.
  • 00:24:01.110 --> 00:24:03.260
  • He finally managed to pull his
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  • pants up and run.
  • 00:24:05.100 --> 00:24:07.080
  • Colorado police are on the
  • 00:24:07.080 --> 00:24:08.060
  • lookout for a terrible criminal
  • 00:24:08.060 --> 00:24:10.080
  • with sagging britches and a
  • 00:24:10.080 --> 00:24:12.030
  • wounded ego.
  • 00:24:12.030 --> 00:24:13.150
  • Hollywood is helping out with
  • 00:24:13.150 --> 00:24:14.200
  • the manhunt as they wanna cast
  • 00:24:14.200 --> 00:24:15.260
  • him in "Dumb and Dumber" part
  • 00:24:15.260 --> 00:24:17.200
  • three.
  • 00:24:17.200 --> 00:24:20.050
  • Now, the U.S. Postal Service
  • 00:24:20.050 --> 00:24:21.150
  • works hard to ensure that our
  • 00:24:21.150 --> 00:24:22.170
  • mail arrives on time, but
  • 00:24:22.170 --> 00:24:24.120
  • outside Milwaukee, in Wauwatosa,
  • 00:24:24.130 --> 00:24:27.130
  • Wisconsin, the biggest postal
  • 00:24:27.130 --> 00:24:29.140
  • challenge was a sticky-fingered
  • 00:24:29.140 --> 00:24:31.230
  • mail carrier.
  • 00:24:31.230 --> 00:24:33.160
  • Ebony Lavonne Smith pleaded
  • 00:24:33.160 --> 00:24:35.020
  • guilty to sorting through the
  • 00:24:35.020 --> 00:24:36.070
  • mail that she was supposed to
  • 00:24:36.070 --> 00:24:37.080
  • deliver and picking out birthday
  • 00:24:37.080 --> 00:24:39.180
  • cards, wedding cards, and other
  • 00:24:39.180 --> 00:24:41.040
  • special-occasion letters to
  • 00:24:41.040 --> 00:24:42.250
  • pluck the cash and gift cards
  • 00:24:42.250 --> 00:24:44.170
  • that were in them.
  • 00:24:44.170 --> 00:24:45.220
  • After enough Wauwatosa
  • 00:24:45.220 --> 00:24:46.270
  • complained of missing gifts by
  • 00:24:46.270 --> 00:24:49.060
  • way of mail, postal authorities
  • 00:24:49.060 --> 00:24:51.020
  • placed a transmitter in a card,
  • 00:24:51.020 --> 00:24:53.060
  • and they caught Miss Smith
  • 00:24:53.060 --> 00:24:54.240
  • opening it.
  • 00:24:54.240 --> 00:24:56.050
  • They discovered cash, open mail,
  • 00:24:56.050 --> 00:24:57.260
  • and letter openers, along with
  • 00:24:57.260 --> 00:24:59.170
  • tape to reseal the letters.
  • 00:24:59.170 --> 00:25:02.010
  • The Postal Service was also
  • 00:25:02.010 --> 00:25:03.180
  • contacted by Wrench 'N Go Auto
  • 00:25:03.180 --> 00:25:05.230
  • Salvage about mail that was
  • 00:25:05.230 --> 00:25:07.010
  • found in the rear of a car they
  • 00:25:07.010 --> 00:25:08.120
  • were starting to scrap.
  • 00:25:08.120 --> 00:25:10.020
  • It contained 6.625 first-class
  • 00:25:12.050 --> 00:25:15.050
  • greeting card envelopes and 540
  • 00:25:15.050 --> 00:25:18.030
  • personal checks, some within
  • 00:25:18.030 --> 00:25:20.180
  • their greeting card, with
  • 00:25:20.180 --> 00:25:21.220
  • envelopes.
  • 00:25:21.220 --> 00:25:22.210
  • Also, had 45 unopened greeting
  • 00:25:22.210 --> 00:25:24.050
  • cards.
  • 00:25:24.050 --> 00:25:25.140
  • Miss Smith pleaded guilty to
  • 00:25:25.140 --> 00:25:26.200
  • theft or receipt of stolen mail,
  • 00:25:26.200 --> 00:25:28.180
  • and she's gonna be sentenced at
  • 00:25:28.180 --> 00:25:29.240
  • a later date.
  • 00:25:29.240 --> 00:25:31.020
  • Perhaps the motto of the USPS
  • 00:25:31.020 --> 00:25:32.250
  • will be updated to now say
  • 00:25:32.250 --> 00:25:34.140
  • "neither snow, nor rain, nor
  • 00:25:34.140 --> 00:25:36.220
  • Miss Smith will keep them from
  • 00:25:36.220 --> 00:25:38.160
  • delivering the mail in Greater
  • 00:25:38.160 --> 00:25:40.010
  • Milwaukee."
  • 00:25:40.010 --> 00:25:41.190
  • Oh, and a note to all my
  • 00:25:41.190 --> 00:25:43.260
  • creditors in Wauwatosa: I told
  • 00:25:43.260 --> 00:25:46.210
  • you the check was in the mail.
  • 00:25:46.210 --> 00:25:48.220
  • Next time please believe me.
  • 00:25:49.020 --> 00:25:52.020
  • And from our "Murder She Wrote"
  • 00:25:52.020 --> 00:25:53.070
  • files, a woman who shot her
  • 00:25:53.070 --> 00:25:54.210
  • husband is also an author.
  • 00:25:54.210 --> 00:25:56.250
  • She once wrote an essay entitled
  • 00:25:56.250 --> 00:25:58.210
  • "How to Murder Your Husband."
  • 00:25:58.210 --> 00:26:01.150
  • Nancy Crampton-Brophy wrote that
  • 00:26:01.150 --> 00:26:03.220
  • as a romantic suspense writer.
  • 00:26:03.220 --> 00:26:05.270
  • She, quote, "spent a lot of time
  • 00:26:05.270 --> 00:26:07.250
  • thinking about murder and
  • 00:26:07.250 --> 00:26:09.160
  • consequently police procedure,"
  • 00:26:09.160 --> 00:26:11.230
  • end quote.
  • 00:26:11.230 --> 00:26:12.260
  • Her romance novels include
  • 00:26:12.260 --> 00:26:14.210
  • titles like "The Wrong Husband."
  • 00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:18.000
  • Crampton-Brophy's alleged victim
  • 00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:19.190
  • is her deceased husband of 27
  • 00:26:19.190 --> 00:26:21.060
  • years, Chef Daniel Brophy.
  • 00:26:21.060 --> 00:26:23.220
  • No word on how their personal
  • 00:26:23.220 --> 00:26:25.120
  • relationship or his culinary
  • 00:26:25.120 --> 00:26:27.050
  • skills impacted her writings or
  • 00:26:27.050 --> 00:26:28.270
  • decisions, but while he was
  • 00:26:28.270 --> 00:26:30.220
  • cooking up a fish dish she was
  • 00:26:30.220 --> 00:26:33.040
  • cooking up a plot for him to
  • 00:26:33.040 --> 00:26:35.030
  • sleep with the fishes.
  • 00:26:35.030 --> 00:26:37.010
  • Police arrested her on a
  • 00:26:37.010 --> 00:26:38.110
  • preliminary charge of domestic
  • 00:26:38.110 --> 00:26:39.230
  • violence-murder.
  • 00:26:39.230 --> 00:26:41.080
  • Mr. Brophy was a culinary
  • 00:26:41.080 --> 00:26:42.210
  • instructor who was well-liked by
  • 00:26:42.210 --> 00:26:44.000
  • his students, but apparently not
  • 00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:46.200
  • so much by his wife.
  • 00:26:46.200 --> 00:26:48.200
  • The police have not offered a
  • 00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:49.200
  • motive for the killing yet, but
  • 00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:50.270
  • we offer these motivations from
  • 00:26:50.270 --> 00:26:52.020
  • her 2011 essay on killing a
  • 00:26:52.020 --> 00:26:54.060
  • husband: infidelity, abuse, or
  • 00:26:54.060 --> 00:26:56.100
  • greed.
  • 00:26:56.100 --> 00:26:57.160
  • Crampton-Brophy wrote, "Divorce
  • 00:26:57.160 --> 00:26:59.070
  • is expensive, and do you really
  • 00:26:59.070 --> 00:27:01.110
  • wanna split your possessions?"
  • 00:27:01.110 --> 00:27:03.180
  • Obviously a practical one to
  • 00:27:03.180 --> 00:27:05.100
  • her.
  • 00:27:05.100 --> 00:27:06.140
  • In her defense, however, she did
  • 00:27:06.140 --> 00:27:07.140
  • write, "I don't wanna worry
  • 00:27:07.140 --> 00:27:09.150
  • about blood and brains
  • 00:27:09.150 --> 00:27:10.230
  • splattered on my walls and,
  • 00:27:10.230 --> 00:27:13.000
  • really, I'm not good at
  • 00:27:13.000 --> 00:27:13.280
  • remembering lies."
  • 00:27:13.280 --> 00:27:15.260
  • Well, Nancy, we wanna encourage
  • 00:27:15.260 --> 00:27:17.120
  • you to tell the truth about this
  • 00:27:17.120 --> 00:27:18.280
  • terrible incident with your
  • 00:27:18.280 --> 00:27:20.010
  • husband, because no matter the
  • 00:27:20.010 --> 00:27:21.170
  • cause you're gonna be able to
  • 00:27:21.170 --> 00:27:23.030
  • write one whale of a romance
  • 00:27:23.030 --> 00:27:25.030
  • murder mystery from an
  • 00:27:25.030 --> 00:27:26.140
  • up-and-close personal view if
  • 00:27:26.140 --> 00:27:28.080
  • you're found guilty.
  • 00:27:28.080 --> 00:27:29.180
  • And, by the way, you're gonna
  • 00:27:29.180 --> 00:27:30.170
  • have plenty of time to do it,
  • 00:27:30.170 --> 00:27:31.280
  • like the rest of your natural
  • 00:27:31.280 --> 00:27:33.220
  • life.
  • 00:27:33.220 --> 00:27:35.100
  • Now, from our "Florida Again?"
  • 00:27:35.100 --> 00:27:38.000
  • file, a driver who fled police
  • 00:27:38.000 --> 00:27:40.030
  • in Florida after a traffic stop
  • 00:27:40.030 --> 00:27:41.230
  • for speeding decided to jump
  • 00:27:41.230 --> 00:27:43.120
  • into a canal in order to aid in
  • 00:27:43.120 --> 00:27:45.230
  • his escape, only to find out
  • 00:27:45.230 --> 00:27:47.270
  • that nature--that's right.
  • 00:27:47.270 --> 00:27:49.210
  • Nature was working with the
  • 00:27:49.210 --> 00:27:50.290
  • police department.
  • 00:27:50.290 --> 00:27:52.200
  • Twenty two-year-old Abraham
  • 00:27:52.200 --> 00:27:54.130
  • Duarte landed in the canal and
  • 00:27:54.130 --> 00:27:56.160
  • was quickly overcome by a
  • 00:27:56.160 --> 00:27:58.000
  • bluish-green toxic algae that
  • 00:27:58.000 --> 00:28:00.230
  • have been killing wildlife all
  • 00:28:00.230 --> 00:28:02.060
  • summer.
  • 00:28:02.060 --> 00:28:03.100
  • After getting a swallow of it,
  • 00:28:03.100 --> 00:28:05.010
  • Duarte immediately started to
  • 00:28:05.010 --> 00:28:06.240
  • cry out to the police who had
  • 00:28:06.240 --> 00:28:08.290
  • been chasing him, and he was
  • 00:28:08.290 --> 00:28:10.150
  • begging them for help.
  • 00:28:10.150 --> 00:28:12.000
  • Police set up a parameter, and
  • 00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:14.210
  • he was crying out, "I'm gonna
  • 00:28:14.210 --> 00:28:16.050
  • die," as he wiggled through the
  • 00:28:16.050 --> 00:28:17.260
  • toxic muck.
  • 00:28:17.260 --> 00:28:19.130
  • "He got himself in the middle of
  • 00:28:19.130 --> 00:28:20.140
  • the algae, and he's not liking
  • 00:28:20.140 --> 00:28:22.070
  • it very much," one officer said.
  • 00:28:22.070 --> 00:28:24.160
  • Duarte took turns retching and
  • 00:28:24.160 --> 00:28:26.090
  • cursing as he worked his way
  • 00:28:26.090 --> 00:28:27.200
  • back to the edge of the canal,
  • 00:28:27.200 --> 00:28:28.260
  • where officers pulled him to
  • 00:28:28.260 --> 00:28:29.270
  • safety.
  • 00:28:29.270 --> 00:28:31.030
  • Police officers hosed the
  • 00:28:31.030 --> 00:28:32.220
  • blue-colored algae off of him
  • 00:28:32.220 --> 00:28:35.010
  • and then they got him to a
  • 00:28:35.010 --> 00:28:35.210
  • hospital.
  • 00:28:35.210 --> 00:28:36.210
  • They found that speeding wasn't
  • 00:28:36.210 --> 00:28:37.230
  • the only reason that Mr. Duarte
  • 00:28:37.230 --> 00:28:40.040
  • was fleeing.
  • 00:28:40.040 --> 00:28:41.120
  • He had seven vials of THC also
  • 00:28:41.120 --> 00:28:44.120
  • in his possession.
  • 00:28:44.120 --> 00:28:45.250
  • Duarte is still dealing with
  • 00:28:45.250 --> 00:28:46.280
  • respiratory and stomach issues
  • 00:28:46.280 --> 00:28:48.090
  • days after being exposed to the
  • 00:28:48.090 --> 00:28:49.270
  • blue algae.
  • 00:28:49.270 --> 00:28:51.000
  • He told the local press it
  • 00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:52.140
  • smells like--well, it smells
  • 00:28:52.220 --> 00:28:55.220
  • real bad.
  • 00:28:55.220 --> 00:28:56.140
  • Let me just leave it there.
  • 00:28:56.140 --> 00:28:58.230
  • Mr. Duarte has been charged with
  • 00:28:58.230 --> 00:29:00.160
  • possession of a controlled
  • 00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:01.140
  • substance and resisting arrest.
  • 00:29:01.140 --> 00:29:03.080
  • His attempt to impersonate a
  • 00:29:03.080 --> 00:29:04.150
  • Smurf using toxic algae was
  • 00:29:04.150 --> 00:29:07.050
  • apparently dropped.
  • 00:29:07.050 --> 00:29:09.050
  • And that's all the time we have
  • 00:29:09.050 --> 00:29:10.110
  • for this week.
  • 00:29:10.110 --> 00:29:11.020
  • Listen to that sigh of relief
  • 00:29:11.020 --> 00:29:12.220
  • from our audience.
  • 00:29:12.220 --> 00:29:15.160
  • It's okay to be relieved and
  • 00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:17.060
  • remember to be thankful, as
  • 00:29:17.060 --> 00:29:18.040
  • well, because we read the news
  • 00:29:18.040 --> 00:29:21.040
  • so you don't have to.
  • 00:29:21.040 --> 00:29:23.070
  • Well, just who is President
  • 00:29:23.070 --> 00:29:25.060
  • Donald J. Trump?
  • 00:29:25.060 --> 00:29:26.140
  • Some recent books about him that
  • 00:29:26.140 --> 00:29:28.000
  • are filled with anonymous
  • 00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:29.050
  • sources and fake quotes probably
  • 00:29:29.050 --> 00:29:31.210
  • ought to be filed under fiction,
  • 00:29:31.210 --> 00:29:33.160
  • but we have one by a top
  • 00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:35.060
  • investigative journalist who has
  • 00:29:35.060 --> 00:29:36.190
  • known the president and first
  • 00:29:36.190 --> 00:29:37.260
  • lady personally for over two
  • 00:29:37.260 --> 00:29:39.030
  • decades.
  • 00:29:39.030 --> 00:29:40.050
  • He says "The Trump White House:
  • 00:29:40.050 --> 00:29:41.270
  • Changing the Rules of the Game"
  • 00:29:41.270 --> 00:29:43.200
  • is an unbiased, inside story and
  • 00:29:43.200 --> 00:29:46.090
  • that's exactly what we need.
  • 00:29:46.090 --> 00:29:47.220
  • Would you welcome please "New
  • 00:29:47.220 --> 00:29:48.210
  • York Times" best-selling author,
  • 00:29:48.210 --> 00:29:50.090
  • - Mike: You have known
  • 00:30:01.110 --> 00:30:02.140
  • President Trump for many, many
  • 00:30:02.140 --> 00:30:03.290
  • years when nobody thought he
  • 00:30:03.290 --> 00:30:05.090
  • would ever run for the
  • 00:30:05.090 --> 00:30:06.040
  • presidency, much less become the
  • 00:30:06.040 --> 00:30:08.070
  • president.
  • 00:30:08.070 --> 00:30:09.160
  • What is it about him that gave
  • 00:30:09.160 --> 00:30:11.020
  • you reason to believe before he
  • 00:30:11.060 --> 00:30:14.060
  • was elected that he would be
  • 00:30:14.060 --> 00:30:15.120
  • elected?
  • 00:30:15.120 --> 00:30:16.080
  • - Ronald Kessler: I thought the
  • 00:30:16.080 --> 00:30:17.010
  • combination of his business
  • 00:30:17.010 --> 00:30:17.280
  • success and his political savvy
  • 00:30:18.170 --> 00:30:21.170
  • and his, you know, his ability
  • 00:30:21.170 --> 00:30:23.200
  • to seek out what the American
  • 00:30:24.020 --> 00:30:27.020
  • people want: patriotism, strong
  • 00:30:27.020 --> 00:30:30.020
  • military, support of law
  • 00:30:30.020 --> 00:30:32.190
  • enforcement.
  • 00:30:32.190 --> 00:30:33.200
  • Those are the things that people
  • 00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:34.230
  • want, and I think he really
  • 00:30:34.230 --> 00:30:37.170
  • keyed into that.
  • 00:30:37.170 --> 00:30:38.150
  • - Mike: I think there's no
  • 00:30:38.150 --> 00:30:39.050
  • doubt that that resonates with
  • 00:30:39.050 --> 00:30:40.080
  • so many Americans.
  • 00:30:40.080 --> 00:30:41.070
  • It seems like that a lot of
  • 00:30:41.070 --> 00:30:43.000
  • people in the press are shocked
  • 00:30:43.000 --> 00:30:45.210
  • that the supporters that he had
  • 00:30:45.210 --> 00:30:47.100
  • to be elected are still with
  • 00:30:47.100 --> 00:30:48.210
  • him.
  • 00:30:48.210 --> 00:30:49.250
  • Are you surprised that people
  • 00:30:49.250 --> 00:30:51.070
  • are still supporting the
  • 00:30:51.070 --> 00:30:53.150
  • president after a year and a
  • 00:30:53.150 --> 00:30:54.210
  • half in office?
  • 00:30:54.210 --> 00:30:55.270
  • - Ronald: Not at all because,
  • 00:30:55.270 --> 00:30:56.250
  • you know, if you are savvy and
  • 00:30:57.040 --> 00:31:00.060
  • look at the big picture, you see
  • 00:31:00.060 --> 00:31:01.250
  • the incredible achievements.
  • 00:31:01.250 --> 00:31:03.080
  • That's why we elected the
  • 00:31:03.080 --> 00:31:04.030
  • president.
  • 00:31:04.030 --> 00:31:05.150
  • The record low
  • 00:31:05.150 --> 00:31:07.130
  • black-unemployment rate,
  • 00:31:07.130 --> 00:31:09.040
  • the--since 1972, the record low
  • 00:31:11.170 --> 00:31:14.170
  • unemployment applications, the
  • 00:31:15.270 --> 00:31:18.270
  • stock market, the tax cuts, and
  • 00:31:18.270 --> 00:31:21.010
  • then on the foreign side, just
  • 00:31:21.010 --> 00:31:23.020
  • incredible achievements meeting
  • 00:31:23.020 --> 00:31:24.190
  • with the North Korean leader.
  • 00:31:24.230 --> 00:31:27.230
  • For any president that's
  • 00:31:27.230 --> 00:31:29.070
  • impressive, so on the one hand,
  • 00:31:29.070 --> 00:31:32.030
  • you know, he blurts out these
  • 00:31:32.030 --> 00:31:33.240
  • tweets and comments that are, I
  • 00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:35.190
  • think, things that make all of
  • 00:31:35.190 --> 00:31:37.020
  • us cringe sometimes, but there's
  • 00:31:37.060 --> 00:31:40.060
  • actually a method to the
  • 00:31:40.060 --> 00:31:41.050
  • madness.
  • 00:31:41.050 --> 00:31:42.000
  • It makes him the center of
  • 00:31:42.000 --> 00:31:42.230
  • attention every single day in
  • 00:31:42.230 --> 00:31:44.180
  • conversations, in the media, and
  • 00:31:44.180 --> 00:31:47.120
  • that gives him power.
  • 00:31:47.120 --> 00:31:48.230
  • Everyone wants to be on his good
  • 00:31:48.230 --> 00:31:49.160
  • side.
  • 00:31:49.160 --> 00:31:50.070
  • They're afraid of him attacking
  • 00:31:50.070 --> 00:31:51.210
  • them, so a lot of it is just
  • 00:31:51.210 --> 00:31:54.150
  • psychological and, of course,
  • 00:31:54.150 --> 00:31:56.110
  • that blends into the whole
  • 00:31:56.150 --> 00:31:59.150
  • economic side, the fact that he
  • 00:31:59.150 --> 00:32:01.270
  • is a cheerleader for American
  • 00:32:01.270 --> 00:32:03.040
  • business, is deregulating, as
  • 00:32:03.040 --> 00:32:05.150
  • opposed to Obama who demonized
  • 00:32:06.070 --> 00:32:09.070
  • big business and small business.
  • 00:32:09.070 --> 00:32:11.160
  • That's making a huge difference.
  • 00:32:11.160 --> 00:32:13.040
  • - Mike: Melania Trump is still
  • 00:32:13.040 --> 00:32:14.100
  • somewhat of a mystery to a lot
  • 00:32:14.100 --> 00:32:15.170
  • of Americans.
  • 00:32:15.170 --> 00:32:16.140
  • Why is she not getting the kind
  • 00:32:16.140 --> 00:32:19.090
  • of attention that maybe Michelle
  • 00:32:19.090 --> 00:32:21.150
  • Obama or Laura Bush or Nancy
  • 00:32:21.150 --> 00:32:23.200
  • Reagan or Barbara Bush or any
  • 00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:25.140
  • other first lady has received?
  • 00:32:25.140 --> 00:32:26.290
  • - Ronald: Well, it is the media
  • 00:32:26.290 --> 00:32:27.240
  • bias, you know?
  • 00:32:27.240 --> 00:32:28.240
  • I know from the inside that to
  • 00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:31.080
  • say anything positive about
  • 00:32:31.080 --> 00:32:33.070
  • Melania or Trump is considered,
  • 00:32:34.030 --> 00:32:37.030
  • you know, a horrible thing
  • 00:32:38.110 --> 00:32:41.110
  • within the press.
  • 00:32:41.110 --> 00:32:42.100
  • Melania is actually a very
  • 00:32:42.100 --> 00:32:43.120
  • powerful force behind the scene.
  • 00:32:43.120 --> 00:32:45.120
  • She sits in on meetings, she
  • 00:32:45.120 --> 00:32:47.090
  • acts as a very powerful aide,
  • 00:32:47.090 --> 00:32:49.080
  • she will summarize what others
  • 00:32:49.080 --> 00:32:50.120
  • say in meetings, and then she'll
  • 00:32:50.120 --> 00:32:51.260
  • come up with her own strategy.
  • 00:32:51.260 --> 00:32:53.230
  • I quote Reince Priebus saying
  • 00:32:53.230 --> 00:32:56.060
  • that her judgment is impeccable,
  • 00:32:56.060 --> 00:32:58.020
  • but she's also not afraid to
  • 00:32:58.020 --> 00:33:00.020
  • disagree with Trump, and I'm the
  • 00:33:00.020 --> 00:33:02.050
  • kind of journalist who just
  • 00:33:02.050 --> 00:33:03.020
  • likes to tell the truth.
  • 00:33:03.020 --> 00:33:04.040
  • It's, sort of, unusual now.
  • 00:33:04.040 --> 00:33:06.110
  • - Mike: It's very unusual now,
  • 00:33:06.110 --> 00:33:07.130
  • to be honest with you.
  • 00:33:07.130 --> 00:33:08.210
  • - Ronald: Yeah, you know, the
  • 00:33:08.210 --> 00:33:09.160
  • fact that April Ryan, this radio
  • 00:33:10.280 --> 00:33:13.280
  • correspondent and CNN analyst
  • 00:33:13.280 --> 00:33:16.020
  • would actually publicly in a
  • 00:33:16.020 --> 00:33:18.180
  • briefing in the White House
  • 00:33:18.200 --> 00:33:21.200
  • insinuate that your daughter,
  • 00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:23.140
  • Sarah Sanders, had not really
  • 00:33:23.140 --> 00:33:25.200
  • made a pecan pie and was lying
  • 00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:27.220
  • about it, that is just
  • 00:33:27.220 --> 00:33:29.260
  • incredible.
  • 00:33:29.260 --> 00:33:30.210
  • And when I was in "The
  • 00:33:30.210 --> 00:33:31.180
  • Washington Post" during
  • 00:33:31.180 --> 00:33:32.150
  • Watergate years, anybody who did
  • 00:33:32.150 --> 00:33:34.080
  • that would have been fired just
  • 00:33:34.080 --> 00:33:35.060
  • like that.
  • 00:33:35.060 --> 00:33:36.050
  • - Mike: Well, and you know what
  • 00:33:36.050 --> 00:33:37.000
  • I don't think April understood
  • 00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:37.250
  • was there are a lot of things
  • 00:33:37.250 --> 00:33:38.210
  • you can say to a Southern woman
  • 00:33:38.210 --> 00:33:39.250
  • that they will forgive.
  • 00:33:39.250 --> 00:33:41.090
  • Don't ever mess with a Southern
  • 00:33:41.090 --> 00:33:43.010
  • woman when it comes to whether
  • 00:33:43.010 --> 00:33:44.100
  • or not she made her own pie.
  • 00:33:44.100 --> 00:33:46.200
  • You don't do that.
  • 00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:47.280
  • You just don't do it.
  • 00:33:47.280 --> 00:33:50.180
  • You have--you've had access to
  • 00:33:50.180 --> 00:33:52.210
  • the president in writing this
  • 00:33:52.210 --> 00:33:53.290
  • book, something that Bob
  • 00:33:53.290 --> 00:33:55.140
  • Woodward didn't have.
  • 00:33:55.140 --> 00:33:56.130
  • You were a colleague of his at
  • 00:33:56.130 --> 00:33:57.170
  • "The Washington Post," so you
  • 00:33:57.170 --> 00:33:58.200
  • know him well, but you know the
  • 00:33:58.200 --> 00:34:00.050
  • president well.
  • 00:34:00.050 --> 00:34:01.100
  • What is wrong with his
  • 00:34:01.100 --> 00:34:04.010
  • perspective?
  • 00:34:04.010 --> 00:34:05.220
  • And I'm not asking you to disown
  • 00:34:05.220 --> 00:34:07.020
  • Bob Woodward, but he says he has
  • 00:34:07.020 --> 00:34:09.150
  • all this inside information, but
  • 00:34:09.150 --> 00:34:10.290
  • he never sat down and talked to
  • 00:34:10.290 --> 00:34:12.100
  • the president, and he rarely
  • 00:34:12.100 --> 00:34:14.040
  • ever attributes what he's saying
  • 00:34:14.170 --> 00:34:17.170
  • to a specific person.
  • 00:34:17.170 --> 00:34:19.040
  • - Ronald: You know, I had a lot
  • 00:34:19.040 --> 00:34:20.050
  • of admiration for Woodward and
  • 00:34:20.050 --> 00:34:22.030
  • Bernstein during the Watergate
  • 00:34:22.030 --> 00:34:23.130
  • years, and I've written about
  • 00:34:23.130 --> 00:34:24.130
  • that, but this latest book does
  • 00:34:24.130 --> 00:34:26.280
  • not give any credit to any of
  • 00:34:26.280 --> 00:34:29.150
  • the achievements that Trump has
  • 00:34:30.160 --> 00:34:33.160
  • achieved.
  • 00:34:33.160 --> 00:34:34.120
  • But, you know, my book is unique
  • 00:34:34.120 --> 00:34:36.030
  • because it is the only
  • 00:34:36.030 --> 00:34:38.040
  • journalistic effort that
  • 00:34:38.040 --> 00:34:39.170
  • actually is favorable to Donald
  • 00:34:39.170 --> 00:34:40.270
  • Trump, and when you look at the
  • 00:34:40.270 --> 00:34:42.180
  • achievements you wonder why it's
  • 00:34:42.180 --> 00:34:45.010
  • the only book, because I say in
  • 00:34:45.070 --> 00:34:48.070
  • the book that he will actually
  • 00:34:48.070 --> 00:34:49.140
  • be seen as one of the greatest
  • 00:34:49.140 --> 00:34:50.140
  • presidents, just based on those
  • 00:34:50.140 --> 00:34:51.250
  • results, just like Reagan who is
  • 00:34:52.140 --> 00:34:55.140
  • now recognized as one of the
  • 00:34:55.140 --> 00:34:56.230
  • greatest presidents.
  • 00:34:56.230 --> 00:34:58.010
  • [audience applauding]
  • 00:34:58.010 --> 00:34:59.080
  • - Mike: Well, the book is
  • 00:34:59.080 --> 00:35:00.030
  • called "The Trump White House:
  • 00:35:00.030 --> 00:35:01.020
  • Changing the Rules of the Game."
  • 00:35:01.020 --> 00:35:02.100
  • It is a must-read, and you can
  • 00:35:02.100 --> 00:35:03.190
  • find it at all the major
  • 00:35:03.190 --> 00:35:04.230
  • booksellers, online at
  • 00:35:04.230 --> 00:35:07.080
  • RonaldKessler.com, and I hope
  • 00:35:07.080 --> 00:35:09.030
  • you'll get it.
  • 00:35:09.030 --> 00:35:09.240
  • Ron, great to have you with us.
  • 00:35:09.240 --> 00:35:10.270
  • - Ronald: Thank you so much.
  • 00:35:10.270 --> 00:35:11.220
  • - Mike: Thank you so very much.
  • 00:35:11.220 --> 00:35:12.290
  • All right, Rik, our next guest
  • 00:35:12.290 --> 00:35:13.260
  • is ready and roaring.
  • 00:35:13.260 --> 00:35:16.060
  • Who do we have coming up?
  • 00:35:16.060 --> 00:35:17.210
  • - Rik: Up next, viral sensation
  • 00:35:17.210 --> 00:35:19.020
  • and Chewbacca mom, Candace
  • 00:35:19.020 --> 00:35:20.230
  • Payne, shares the power of joy.
  • 00:35:20.230 --> 00:35:23.040
  • Then country star, Collin Raye,
  • 00:35:23.040 --> 00:35:24.280
  • performs.
  • 00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:25.270
  • - Mike: My next guest became
  • 00:35:42.240 --> 00:35:44.010
  • the biggest viral sensation in
  • 00:35:44.010 --> 00:35:46.100
  • history when she shared a
  • 00:35:46.100 --> 00:35:48.040
  • Facebook Live video of her joy
  • 00:35:48.040 --> 00:35:50.190
  • over a birthday gift that she
  • 00:35:50.190 --> 00:35:52.080
  • bought herself, a Chewbacca
  • 00:35:52.080 --> 00:35:54.130
  • mask.
  • 00:35:54.130 --> 00:35:55.110
  • - Candace Payne: Now watch when
  • 00:35:55.110 --> 00:35:56.030
  • my mouth actually moves.
  • 00:35:56.030 --> 00:35:58.220
  • That's not me making the noise.
  • 00:36:04.100 --> 00:36:05.260
  • It's the mask.
  • 00:36:05.260 --> 00:36:07.150
  • Here, listen.
  • 00:36:07.150 --> 00:36:08.180
  • "Rrrrrrr."
  • 00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:12.280
  • - Mike: And she's not just
  • 00:36:20.050 --> 00:36:21.100
  • Chewbacca mom.
  • 00:36:21.100 --> 00:36:22.120
  • She's also a speaker, an author,
  • 00:36:22.120 --> 00:36:24.160
  • and a joy evangelist, which I
  • 00:36:24.160 --> 00:36:26.150
  • love that term.
  • 00:36:26.150 --> 00:36:28.040
  • She's also distinguished by the
  • 00:36:28.040 --> 00:36:29.090
  • fact that she graduated from the
  • 00:36:29.090 --> 00:36:30.200
  • same alma mater as me, Ouachita
  • 00:36:30.200 --> 00:36:33.070
  • Baptist University in Arkansas,
  • 00:36:33.070 --> 00:36:35.100
  • albeit a generation later.
  • 00:36:35.100 --> 00:36:37.210
  • Her new book is called "Simple
  • 00:36:37.210 --> 00:36:39.200
  • Joys."
  • 00:36:39.200 --> 00:36:40.180
  • Please welcome Candace Payne.
  • 00:36:40.180 --> 00:36:42.230
  • Candace, so nice to have you
  • 00:36:42.230 --> 00:36:43.270
  • here.
  • 00:36:43.270 --> 00:36:46.180
  • I gotta tell you when I first
  • 00:36:46.180 --> 00:36:47.150
  • saw that--and it was before I
  • 00:36:47.150 --> 00:36:48.210
  • even knew that you had been a
  • 00:36:48.210 --> 00:36:50.060
  • Ouachita student--I just thought
  • 00:36:50.060 --> 00:36:52.000
  • it was one of the funniest
  • 00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:52.220
  • things I've ever seen in my
  • 00:36:52.220 --> 00:36:53.160
  • life.
  • 00:36:53.160 --> 00:36:54.080
  • I found myself laughing out
  • 00:36:54.080 --> 00:36:55.140
  • loud, and so did the rest of the
  • 00:36:55.140 --> 00:36:57.210
  • world.
  • 00:36:57.210 --> 00:36:58.130
  • - Candace Payne: Well, it's
  • 00:36:58.130 --> 00:36:59.040
  • really highbrow comedy, you
  • 00:36:59.040 --> 00:37:00.130
  • know?
  • 00:37:00.130 --> 00:37:01.000
  • I mean, it's a four-minute video
  • 00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:02.190
  • and three minutes are laughing.
  • 00:37:02.190 --> 00:37:03.260
  • It's so classy.
  • 00:37:03.260 --> 00:37:04.290
  • - Mike: But were you always
  • 00:37:04.290 --> 00:37:06.010
  • funny, or was this just one of
  • 00:37:06.010 --> 00:37:07.030
  • those spontaneous moments in
  • 00:37:07.030 --> 00:37:08.130
  • which you just said, "I'm gonna
  • 00:37:08.130 --> 00:37:09.120
  • do something just because I want
  • 00:37:09.120 --> 00:37:11.070
  • to"?
  • 00:37:11.070 --> 00:37:11.270
  • - Candace: Oh, it was
  • 00:37:11.270 --> 00:37:12.140
  • definitely just because I want
  • 00:37:12.140 --> 00:37:13.140
  • to.
  • 00:37:13.140 --> 00:37:14.020
  • I was literally thinking, "I've
  • 00:37:14.020 --> 00:37:15.120
  • got 30 minutes till I have to
  • 00:37:15.120 --> 00:37:16.270
  • act like an adult and pick up my
  • 00:37:16.270 --> 00:37:18.070
  • kids from school, and I'm gonna
  • 00:37:18.070 --> 00:37:20.000
  • play for those 30 minutes and go
  • 00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:21.260
  • live for some of my mom friends
  • 00:37:21.260 --> 00:37:23.150
  • that might be in a carpool lane
  • 00:37:23.150 --> 00:37:24.170
  • somewhere."
  • 00:37:24.170 --> 00:37:25.130
  • I had no anticipation that that
  • 00:37:25.200 --> 00:37:28.200
  • video would go as viral as it
  • 00:37:28.200 --> 00:37:30.180
  • went.
  • 00:37:30.180 --> 00:37:31.130
  • - Mike: I mean, like what?
  • 00:37:31.130 --> 00:37:33.050
  • A hundred and sixty million
  • 00:37:33.050 --> 00:37:34.200
  • views or more?
  • 00:37:34.200 --> 00:37:35.210
  • - Candace: Right now it's 174
  • 00:37:35.210 --> 00:37:37.220
  • million on Facebook and
  • 00:37:37.220 --> 00:37:39.070
  • collectively throughout the
  • 00:37:39.070 --> 00:37:40.120
  • Internet it's over 200 million.
  • 00:37:40.120 --> 00:37:41.290
  • - Mike: Two hundred million?
  • 00:37:41.290 --> 00:37:44.050
  • Do you realize with that many
  • 00:37:44.050 --> 00:37:45.060
  • votes you'd be president of any
  • 00:37:45.060 --> 00:37:46.180
  • country on Earth?
  • 00:37:46.180 --> 00:37:49.100
  • - Candace: I'm glad I don't
  • 00:37:49.100 --> 00:37:50.170
  • hold that responsibility.
  • 00:37:50.170 --> 00:37:52.120
  • - Mike: It ain't what it's
  • 00:37:52.120 --> 00:37:53.020
  • cracked up to be.
  • 00:37:53.020 --> 00:37:54.240
  • I mean, did--you could not have
  • 00:37:54.240 --> 00:37:56.180
  • imagined sitting out there in
  • 00:37:56.180 --> 00:37:57.200
  • the school parking lot that day
  • 00:37:57.200 --> 00:37:58.250
  • that this would turn into the
  • 00:37:58.250 --> 00:38:01.040
  • opportunity to write books and
  • 00:38:01.040 --> 00:38:02.110
  • to speak all over the world and
  • 00:38:02.110 --> 00:38:04.050
  • to bring joy to people.
  • 00:38:04.050 --> 00:38:06.120
  • - Candace: You know, I think
  • 00:38:06.120 --> 00:38:07.150
  • the common denominator in the
  • 00:38:07.150 --> 00:38:08.260
  • messages I received following
  • 00:38:08.260 --> 00:38:10.110
  • the days were a lot of people
  • 00:38:10.110 --> 00:38:12.160
  • saying, "I forgot how to laugh
  • 00:38:12.160 --> 00:38:14.030
  • like that.
  • 00:38:14.030 --> 00:38:15.060
  • I forgot what it was like to
  • 00:38:15.060 --> 00:38:16.080
  • feel that kind of joy.
  • 00:38:16.080 --> 00:38:18.000
  • How do you do it?"
  • 00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:19.060
  • And it was a moment that I feel
  • 00:38:19.060 --> 00:38:20.120
  • like, kind of, God ordained, and
  • 00:38:20.120 --> 00:38:22.290
  • so, of course, I couldn't
  • 00:38:22.290 --> 00:38:24.070
  • foresee it, but, boy, I saw that
  • 00:38:24.070 --> 00:38:26.160
  • it was his hand, and I walked
  • 00:38:26.160 --> 00:38:28.020
  • through every open door after
  • 00:38:28.020 --> 00:38:29.130
  • it, and I still do.
  • 00:38:29.130 --> 00:38:31.010
  • - Mike: You let go in a way
  • 00:38:31.010 --> 00:38:32.030
  • that, sort of, was reckless
  • 00:38:32.030 --> 00:38:33.230
  • abandon to laughter, and it
  • 00:38:33.230 --> 00:38:36.100
  • changed some people's attitudes
  • 00:38:36.100 --> 00:38:38.110
  • about joy.
  • 00:38:38.110 --> 00:38:39.180
  • - Candace: It was a moment.
  • 00:38:39.180 --> 00:38:40.200
  • It was a sound around the world
  • 00:38:40.200 --> 00:38:42.050
  • that said, "We can laugh again,"
  • 00:38:42.050 --> 00:38:44.260
  • and ultimately we can hope
  • 00:38:44.260 --> 00:38:46.110
  • again.
  • 00:38:46.110 --> 00:38:47.090
  • - Mike: You call yourself a joy
  • 00:38:47.090 --> 00:38:49.070
  • evangelist, which I think is one
  • 00:38:49.070 --> 00:38:50.100
  • of the coolest terms ever, and
  • 00:38:50.100 --> 00:38:52.150
  • you're in the midst of a tour
  • 00:38:52.150 --> 00:38:55.000
  • with one of the most amazing
  • 00:38:55.000 --> 00:38:57.000
  • singers, Mandisa, who I adore.
  • 00:38:57.000 --> 00:38:59.060
  • - Candace: I love her.
  • 00:38:59.060 --> 00:39:00.110
  • - Mike: So tell us about the
  • 00:39:00.200 --> 00:39:03.200
  • tour that you're engaged in
  • 00:39:03.200 --> 00:39:05.170
  • right now.
  • 00:39:05.170 --> 00:39:06.130
  • - Candace: Well, that just
  • 00:39:06.130 --> 00:39:07.030
  • sounds so silly, to think that a
  • 00:39:07.030 --> 00:39:08.030
  • lady with a Chewbacca mask is
  • 00:39:08.030 --> 00:39:09.070
  • gonna be on a music tour, but I
  • 00:39:09.070 --> 00:39:11.030
  • actually have been a worship
  • 00:39:11.030 --> 00:39:12.060
  • leader since I was 14, so I'm
  • 00:39:12.060 --> 00:39:14.050
  • going to be singing.
  • 00:39:14.050 --> 00:39:15.140
  • I'm going to be hosting and
  • 00:39:15.140 --> 00:39:16.170
  • emceeing the entire event, and
  • 00:39:16.170 --> 00:39:18.100
  • I'm also gonna get to speak for
  • 00:39:18.100 --> 00:39:19.190
  • a little bit on the topic of joy
  • 00:39:19.190 --> 00:39:21.130
  • and really what it's like to
  • 00:39:21.130 --> 00:39:23.140
  • host joy when it comes in the
  • 00:39:23.140 --> 00:39:25.040
  • room, to be a good host for when
  • 00:39:25.040 --> 00:39:27.030
  • joy enters, and you've gotta
  • 00:39:27.030 --> 00:39:28.150
  • lift up your eyes and say, "I
  • 00:39:28.150 --> 00:39:29.290
  • see you're here.
  • 00:39:29.290 --> 00:39:30.290
  • I'm gonna engage ya."
  • 00:39:30.290 --> 00:39:32.060
  • - Mike: Do you still have the
  • 00:39:32.060 --> 00:39:32.270
  • mask?
  • 00:39:32.270 --> 00:39:33.130
  • - Candace: I do.
  • 00:39:33.130 --> 00:39:34.090
  • I do.
  • 00:39:34.090 --> 00:39:34.280
  • It's not on the wall in my
  • 00:39:34.280 --> 00:39:35.240
  • bedroom, because it freaked out
  • 00:39:35.240 --> 00:39:36.290
  • my husband, and so we had to
  • 00:39:36.290 --> 00:39:39.140
  • take it down.
  • 00:39:39.140 --> 00:39:40.080
  • - Mike: Wonder why.
  • 00:39:40.080 --> 00:39:41.290
  • And that day when your kids got
  • 00:39:41.290 --> 00:39:43.020
  • in the car, did you say, "Hey,
  • 00:39:43.020 --> 00:39:44.290
  • look what Mom got"?
  • 00:39:44.290 --> 00:39:45.260
  • Did you do it then for them or--
  • 00:39:45.260 --> 00:39:47.050
  • - Candace: I did, and they were
  • 00:39:47.050 --> 00:39:48.060
  • not impressed.
  • 00:39:48.060 --> 00:39:49.060
  • - Mike: They weren't?
  • 00:39:49.060 --> 00:39:49.260
  • - Candace: No, no, your kids
  • 00:39:49.260 --> 00:39:51.000
  • are the worst critics ever.
  • 00:39:51.000 --> 00:39:52.040
  • - Mike: Well, that's a good
  • 00:39:52.040 --> 00:39:52.240
  • point.
  • 00:39:52.240 --> 00:39:53.120
  • That's very true.
  • 00:39:53.120 --> 00:39:54.180
  • I want you to know the book,
  • 00:39:54.180 --> 00:39:56.050
  • "Simple Joys," I read the whole
  • 00:39:56.050 --> 00:39:57.100
  • thing.
  • 00:39:57.100 --> 00:39:58.110
  • The good thing about it, it's a
  • 00:39:58.110 --> 00:39:59.150
  • fun book, it really is, and even
  • 00:39:59.150 --> 00:40:02.030
  • though I'm a guy I think this
  • 00:40:02.030 --> 00:40:03.060
  • probably may be written perhaps
  • 00:40:03.060 --> 00:40:05.070
  • for women more, but it's a fun
  • 00:40:05.070 --> 00:40:06.180
  • book, and it's an easy read, and
  • 00:40:06.180 --> 00:40:08.230
  • it's a reminder that there ought
  • 00:40:08.240 --> 00:40:11.240
  • to be some humor in life.
  • 00:40:11.240 --> 00:40:13.000
  • And the Proverbs say that "a
  • 00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:14.100
  • merry heart doeth good like a
  • 00:40:14.100 --> 00:40:15.150
  • medicine."
  • 00:40:15.150 --> 00:40:17.090
  • It's the best medicine we can
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  • have.
  • 00:40:18.140 --> 00:40:19.030
  • This is really good medicine
  • 00:40:19.030 --> 00:40:20.110
  • right here, so it's a lot less
  • 00:40:20.110 --> 00:40:22.250
  • expensive than some of the
  • 00:40:22.250 --> 00:40:23.230
  • prescriptions that I've had to
  • 00:40:23.230 --> 00:40:24.200
  • be taking.
  • 00:40:24.200 --> 00:40:25.280
  • - Candace: One of the things I
  • 00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:26.200
  • love about it is that I
  • 00:40:26.200 --> 00:40:27.250
  • challenge people to prospect for
  • 00:40:27.250 --> 00:40:29.120
  • joy.
  • 00:40:29.120 --> 00:40:30.160
  • Be on the hunt as though it is
  • 00:40:30.160 --> 00:40:32.130
  • gold that you have to unearth,
  • 00:40:32.130 --> 00:40:34.130
  • and the moment that you find it
  • 00:40:34.130 --> 00:40:36.080
  • keep it and its value close and
  • 00:40:36.080 --> 00:40:38.210
  • dear to you.
  • 00:40:38.210 --> 00:40:39.160
  • - Mike: I don't know of anybody
  • 00:40:39.160 --> 00:40:40.220
  • who has not just fallen in love
  • 00:40:40.220 --> 00:40:42.090
  • with Candace Payne.
  • 00:40:42.090 --> 00:40:43.140
  • - Candace: Oh, thank you.
  • 00:40:43.140 --> 00:40:44.050
  • - Mike: You have given the
  • 00:40:44.050 --> 00:40:44.250
  • world--like the old thing give
  • 00:40:44.250 --> 00:40:46.280
  • the world, you know, a Coke,
  • 00:40:46.280 --> 00:40:48.290
  • you've given us joy and
  • 00:40:48.290 --> 00:40:50.240
  • laughter, and we need it, and I
  • 00:40:50.240 --> 00:40:52.070
  • hope people will get the book,
  • 00:40:52.070 --> 00:40:53.070
  • "Simple Joys."
  • 00:40:53.070 --> 00:40:54.080
  • Get your copy at booksellers all
  • 00:40:54.080 --> 00:40:56.010
  • over the place.
  • 00:40:56.010 --> 00:40:57.020
  • You can also order from her
  • 00:40:57.020 --> 00:40:58.030
  • website, CandacePayne.me.
  • 00:40:58.030 --> 00:41:01.020
  • That's CandacePayne.me.
  • 00:41:01.020 --> 00:41:02.280
  • We also talked about the Girl's
  • 00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:04.040
  • Night Live tour with
  • 00:41:04.040 --> 00:41:05.150
  • Grammy-winning Christian musical
  • 00:41:05.150 --> 00:41:07.080
  • artist, Mandisa.
  • 00:41:07.080 --> 00:41:08.190
  • That address again for all the
  • 00:41:08.190 --> 00:41:10.000
  • details, CandacePayne.me.
  • 00:41:10.090 --> 00:41:13.090
  • I hope you'll be at one of those
  • 00:41:13.090 --> 00:41:15.030
  • events.
  • 00:41:15.030 --> 00:41:15.260
  • Rik, we've got some more simple
  • 00:41:15.260 --> 00:41:17.200
  • joys coming up for the audience
  • 00:41:17.200 --> 00:41:19.040
  • tonight, so I'm gonna let you
  • 00:41:19.040 --> 00:41:21.020
  • let them in on it.
  • 00:41:21.020 --> 00:41:23.020
  • - Rik: Next, country legend
  • 00:41:23.020 --> 00:41:24.020
  • Collin Raye performs.
  • 00:41:24.020 --> 00:41:25.280
  • Then Mike's got a clear answer
  • 00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:27.130
  • to congressional spending abuse
  • 00:41:27.130 --> 00:41:28.290
  • in this weeks "Wrap."
  • 00:41:28.290 --> 00:41:31.050
  • - Mike: Well, my next guest's
  • 00:41:42.230 --> 00:41:43.260
  • mix of rock and country with
  • 00:41:43.260 --> 00:41:45.040
  • socially conscious lyrics has
  • 00:41:45.040 --> 00:41:47.060
  • yielded 16 number 1 hits.
  • 00:41:47.060 --> 00:41:50.010
  • That's right 16 number 1 hits.
  • 00:41:50.050 --> 00:41:53.050
  • My kids pretty much know the
  • 00:41:53.050 --> 00:41:54.280
  • lyrics to every one of those
  • 00:41:54.280 --> 00:41:56.110
  • songs because their mother
  • 00:41:56.110 --> 00:41:58.170
  • played his music nonstop and
  • 00:41:58.200 --> 00:42:01.220
  • remains one of his biggest fans
  • 00:42:01.220 --> 00:42:03.070
  • to this day.
  • 00:42:03.070 --> 00:42:04.120
  • Tonight he's here to perform a
  • 00:42:04.120 --> 00:42:05.240
  • song about a man overcoming his
  • 00:42:05.240 --> 00:42:07.170
  • alcohol addiction while visiting
  • 00:42:07.170 --> 00:42:09.160
  • the city of Little Rock.
  • 00:42:09.160 --> 00:42:11.130
  • Please welcome a wonderful
  • 00:42:11.130 --> 00:42:12.250
  • friend and a true amazing
  • 00:42:12.250 --> 00:42:15.170
  • Well, I know I disappeared
  • 00:42:24.090 --> 00:42:26.270
  • a time or two
  • 00:42:28.050 --> 00:42:31.050
  • and along the way
  • 00:42:31.050 --> 00:42:33.060
  • I needed a new town
  • 00:42:38.170 --> 00:42:40.290
  • for my new start,
  • 00:42:42.280 --> 00:42:45.280
  • selling VCRs in Arkansas
  • 00:42:46.190 --> 00:42:49.190
  • at a Walmart.
  • 00:42:49.190 --> 00:42:52.130
  • I haven't had a drink
  • 00:42:52.130 --> 00:42:54.160
  • in 19 days.
  • 00:42:56.040 --> 00:42:59.040
  • My eyes are clear and bright
  • 00:42:59.040 --> 00:43:01.230
  • without that haze.
  • 00:43:03.050 --> 00:43:06.050
  • I like the preacher from
  • 00:43:06.050 --> 00:43:08.090
  • Sorry that I cried when
  • 00:43:13.140 --> 00:43:16.130
  • I talked to you last night,
  • 00:43:17.020 --> 00:43:20.020
  • but I think I'm on a roll
  • 00:43:20.020 --> 00:43:22.250
  • I'm solid as a stone.
  • 00:43:26.170 --> 00:43:29.070
  • Baby, wait and see.
  • 00:43:30.220 --> 00:43:33.220
  • I got just one small problem
  • 00:43:33.220 --> 00:43:36.090
  • here in Little Rock.
  • 00:43:36.190 --> 00:43:39.190
  • Oh, without you, baby,
  • 00:43:40.080 --> 00:43:43.080
  • I'm not me.
  • 00:43:44.220 --> 00:43:47.220
  • I don't know why
  • 00:43:47.220 --> 00:43:49.060
  • You must have thought
  • 00:43:54.180 --> 00:43:56.090
  • I never even tried.
  • 00:43:58.120 --> 00:44:01.140
  • You know your daddy,
  • 00:44:01.140 --> 00:44:03.040
  • he told me when I left,
  • 00:44:04.210 --> 00:44:07.210
  • he said,
  • 00:44:07.210 --> 00:44:09.000
  • "Jesus would forgive,
  • 00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:11.150
  • but a daddy don't forget."
  • 00:44:12.060 --> 00:44:15.060
  • And I think I'm on a roll
  • 00:44:15.080 --> 00:44:18.080
  • here in Little Rock.
  • 00:44:18.140 --> 00:44:21.140
  • I'm solid as a stone.
  • 00:44:21.170 --> 00:44:24.170
  • Baby, wait and see.
  • 00:44:26.100 --> 00:44:29.100
  • I got just one small problem
  • 00:44:29.100 --> 00:44:31.240
  • here in Little Rock.
  • 00:44:32.050 --> 00:44:35.050
  • Oh, without you, baby,
  • 00:44:35.230 --> 00:44:38.230
  • Lying here
  • 00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:44.240
  • upon this motel bed,
  • 00:44:47.020 --> 00:44:50.020
  • my thoughts of you
  • 00:44:50.020 --> 00:44:51.160
  • explode inside my head,
  • 00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:57.000
  • and like a castle
  • 00:44:57.000 --> 00:44:58.120
  • built upon the sand
  • 00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:03.280
  • I let love crumble
  • 00:45:03.280 --> 00:45:06.080
  • in my hand,
  • 00:45:07.270 --> 00:45:10.270
  • Oh, but I think
  • 00:45:24.040 --> 00:45:25.090
  • I'm on a roll
  • 00:45:25.090 --> 00:45:27.140
  • here in Little Rock.
  • 00:45:27.270 --> 00:45:30.270
  • I'm solid as a stone.
  • 00:45:30.270 --> 00:45:33.270
  • Baby, wait and see.
  • 00:45:35.160 --> 00:45:38.160
  • I got just one small problem
  • 00:45:38.230 --> 00:45:41.230
  • here in Little Rock.
  • 00:45:41.260 --> 00:45:44.260
  • Without you, baby,
  • 00:45:45.060 --> 00:45:48.060
  • I'm not me.
  • 00:45:48.170 --> 00:45:51.170
  • No, without you, baby,
  • 00:45:52.170 --> 00:45:55.170
  • But I think I'm on a roll
  • 00:46:03.230 --> 00:46:06.230
  • - Mike: Love the song and love
  • 00:46:25.150 --> 00:46:26.280
  • you.
  • 00:46:26.280 --> 00:46:27.250
  • Your music has just had an
  • 00:46:27.250 --> 00:46:29.210
  • endearing quality, but you do
  • 00:46:29.210 --> 00:46:31.170
  • something that a lot of artists
  • 00:46:31.170 --> 00:46:32.240
  • don't do.
  • 00:46:32.240 --> 00:46:33.100
  • It's not just the music.
  • 00:46:33.100 --> 00:46:35.010
  • The lyrics are emotional.
  • 00:46:35.010 --> 00:46:37.270
  • They touch lives.
  • 00:46:37.270 --> 00:46:39.000
  • That particular song erupted in
  • 00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:40.280
  • a way that I don't think you
  • 00:46:40.280 --> 00:46:42.170
  • could have imagined.
  • 00:46:42.170 --> 00:46:43.260
  • - Collin Raye: When I first
  • 00:46:43.260 --> 00:46:44.230
  • heard a guy named Tom Douglas, a
  • 00:46:44.230 --> 00:46:46.090
  • wonderful poet-songwriter, wrote
  • 00:46:46.090 --> 00:46:47.220
  • that he was unknown at the time,
  • 00:46:47.220 --> 00:46:49.100
  • and when I first heard the song
  • 00:46:49.100 --> 00:46:50.110
  • I thought, "Boy, that's strong.
  • 00:46:50.110 --> 00:46:51.190
  • That's something I could really
  • 00:46:51.190 --> 00:46:53.060
  • sink my teeth into," but I
  • 00:46:53.060 --> 00:46:54.080
  • honestly never thought it would
  • 00:46:54.080 --> 00:46:55.210
  • be a radio single 'cause I
  • 00:46:55.210 --> 00:46:56.280
  • thought it was too deep for
  • 00:46:56.280 --> 00:46:58.130
  • radio.
  • 00:46:58.130 --> 00:46:59.080
  • And the label pushed me to do
  • 00:46:59.080 --> 00:47:01.220
  • it, and we put it out, and it
  • 00:47:01.220 --> 00:47:02.230
  • wound up being one of the
  • 00:47:02.230 --> 00:47:04.110
  • biggest songs of my career, but
  • 00:47:04.110 --> 00:47:05.290
  • I thought, "If we're gonna do
  • 00:47:05.290 --> 00:47:07.010
  • this let's try to--"
  • 00:47:07.010 --> 00:47:08.100
  • I mean, the story is pretty
  • 00:47:08.100 --> 00:47:09.240
  • picturesque and vivid, you know,
  • 00:47:09.240 --> 00:47:12.060
  • so let's try to do something.
  • 00:47:12.060 --> 00:47:13.150
  • Let's see what--so, we tried
  • 00:47:13.150 --> 00:47:14.220
  • something that had never been
  • 00:47:14.220 --> 00:47:15.220
  • done before.
  • 00:47:15.220 --> 00:47:16.170
  • We contacted Al-Anon 'cause I
  • 00:47:16.170 --> 00:47:18.270
  • knew that they had a hotline
  • 00:47:18.270 --> 00:47:20.120
  • number.
  • 00:47:20.120 --> 00:47:21.130
  • "Listen, we're gonna make a
  • 00:47:21.130 --> 00:47:22.040
  • video."
  • 00:47:22.040 --> 00:47:23.000
  • Back then you made a music video
  • 00:47:23.000 --> 00:47:23.240
  • for everything, you know?
  • 00:47:23.240 --> 00:47:24.280
  • And so, we're gonna make a video
  • 00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:25.250
  • about this song.
  • 00:47:25.250 --> 00:47:26.210
  • Let's just tag--let's see if
  • 00:47:26.210 --> 00:47:28.040
  • they would like to tag the video
  • 00:47:28.040 --> 00:47:29.270
  • with their hotline number and
  • 00:47:29.270 --> 00:47:31.010
  • see if we get any response.
  • 00:47:31.010 --> 00:47:32.110
  • First month the video was out we
  • 00:47:32.110 --> 00:47:33.180
  • had over 200.000 phone calls
  • 00:47:33.180 --> 00:47:36.050
  • came into Al-Anon.
  • 00:47:36.050 --> 00:47:37.270
  • Yeah, and sometimes I think
  • 00:47:39.190 --> 00:47:42.190
  • music is--we forget how powerful
  • 00:47:42.190 --> 00:47:44.020
  • music can be, and sometimes it
  • 00:47:44.020 --> 00:47:46.040
  • takes something like that just
  • 00:47:46.040 --> 00:47:47.280
  • to make someone realize, "Hey,
  • 00:47:48.180 --> 00:47:51.180
  • I'm the guy in that video.
  • 00:47:51.180 --> 00:47:52.290
  • Maybe I need to get some help,
  • 00:47:52.290 --> 00:47:54.060
  • you know?"
  • 00:47:54.060 --> 00:47:54.250
  • - Mike: I mean, I think that's
  • 00:47:54.250 --> 00:47:55.170
  • the power of it.
  • 00:47:55.170 --> 00:47:56.080
  • When you sing, you probably see
  • 00:47:56.080 --> 00:47:57.190
  • faces in the audience, and it's
  • 00:47:57.190 --> 00:47:59.060
  • like they're looking at you
  • 00:47:59.060 --> 00:48:00.100
  • saying, "You're singing that for
  • 00:48:00.100 --> 00:48:01.250
  • me.
  • 00:48:01.250 --> 00:48:02.200
  • I need that song."
  • 00:48:02.200 --> 00:48:04.030
  • I mean, what does that do to
  • 00:48:04.030 --> 00:48:05.030
  • you?
  • 00:48:05.030 --> 00:48:05.220
  • - Collin: Oh, well, the reason
  • 00:48:05.220 --> 00:48:06.160
  • I got in this business is
  • 00:48:06.160 --> 00:48:07.150
  • because music always did that to
  • 00:48:07.150 --> 00:48:09.160
  • me.
  • 00:48:09.160 --> 00:48:10.060
  • When I was a kid I grew up at a
  • 00:48:10.060 --> 00:48:11.120
  • time when country music was
  • 00:48:11.120 --> 00:48:12.270
  • great, rock and roll was great,
  • 00:48:12.270 --> 00:48:14.120
  • mainstream pop was great.
  • 00:48:14.120 --> 00:48:15.220
  • There was very little junk out
  • 00:48:15.220 --> 00:48:16.170
  • there and lyrics always meant
  • 00:48:16.170 --> 00:48:18.250
  • something, so if a song--because
  • 00:48:18.250 --> 00:48:21.060
  • of those acts, those artists
  • 00:48:21.060 --> 00:48:23.100
  • that made me feel that way, I
  • 00:48:23.100 --> 00:48:24.140
  • thought, "Well, if I ever get my
  • 00:48:24.140 --> 00:48:25.130
  • chance I wanna try to be like
  • 00:48:25.130 --> 00:48:26.200
  • them," and I'm fortunate that I
  • 00:48:26.200 --> 00:48:29.050
  • was around during the '90s when,
  • 00:48:29.050 --> 00:48:31.070
  • maybe thanks to Garth, there was
  • 00:48:31.070 --> 00:48:32.180
  • a pretty wide loop country music
  • 00:48:32.180 --> 00:48:34.250
  • was throwing, and so there was a
  • 00:48:34.250 --> 00:48:35.270
  • place for me in there, and I'm
  • 00:48:35.270 --> 00:48:37.150
  • very, very thankful that 27
  • 00:48:37.150 --> 00:48:39.040
  • years later I'm still going.
  • 00:48:39.040 --> 00:48:40.170
  • - Mike: I'm thankful, too,
  • 00:48:40.170 --> 00:48:41.140
  • because your music is endearing.
  • 00:48:41.140 --> 00:48:43.070
  • You have an incredible voice.
  • 00:48:43.070 --> 00:48:44.220
  • I mean, it cuts through.
  • 00:48:44.220 --> 00:48:46.100
  • A lot of voices don't.
  • 00:48:46.100 --> 00:48:47.140
  • Your voice cuts through.
  • 00:48:47.140 --> 00:48:48.230
  • We can hear the lyrics, we know
  • 00:48:48.230 --> 00:48:50.020
  • what the message is, and so many
  • 00:48:50.020 --> 00:48:51.240
  • of your songs have a message,
  • 00:48:51.240 --> 00:48:53.230
  • and I could listen to a bunch of
  • 00:48:53.230 --> 00:48:54.240
  • 'em.
  • 00:48:54.240 --> 00:48:55.130
  • When I think about how young
  • 00:48:55.130 --> 00:48:57.050
  • ladies are treated and I think
  • 00:48:57.050 --> 00:48:58.170
  • of a song, I think about you.
  • 00:48:58.170 --> 00:49:00.030
  • I was raising my daughter when
  • 00:49:00.030 --> 00:49:01.120
  • that song was a big one, and I
  • 00:49:01.120 --> 00:49:03.110
  • tell you it touched me as a dad,
  • 00:49:03.110 --> 00:49:05.170
  • and so many of your songs do
  • 00:49:05.170 --> 00:49:06.290
  • that.
  • 00:49:06.290 --> 00:49:07.230
  • By the way, Collin has "Collin
  • 00:49:07.230 --> 00:49:09.240
  • Raye's 25 years, 25 hits."
  • 00:49:09.240 --> 00:49:12.090
  • He had 25 hits that were all in
  • 00:49:12.090 --> 00:49:14.040
  • the top 40.
  • 00:49:14.040 --> 00:49:14.280
  • Sixteen number one.
  • 00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:16.040
  • Not many people have ever done
  • 00:49:16.040 --> 00:49:17.020
  • that.
  • 00:49:17.020 --> 00:49:17.220
  • Plus, there are three bonus
  • 00:49:17.220 --> 00:49:18.220
  • songs, and this is an incredible
  • 00:49:18.220 --> 00:49:21.010
  • piece of music that I would
  • 00:49:21.010 --> 00:49:22.100
  • encourage you to get.
  • 00:49:22.100 --> 00:49:23.090
  • You're gonna love the songs.
  • 00:49:23.090 --> 00:49:24.160
  • Go to your favorite online music
  • 00:49:24.160 --> 00:49:26.100
  • retailer.
  • 00:49:26.100 --> 00:49:27.120
  • Discover when his concert tour
  • 00:49:27.120 --> 00:49:29.100
  • is coming to your town.
  • 00:49:29.100 --> 00:49:31.130
  • Visit CollinRaye.com if you're
  • 00:49:31.130 --> 00:49:34.050
  • not sure where to get the music,
  • 00:49:34.050 --> 00:49:35.220
  • but for heaven's sakes get it.
  • 00:49:35.220 --> 00:49:37.070
  • It will uplift you, and you may
  • 00:49:37.070 --> 00:49:38.150
  • end up, like my wife, and drive
  • 00:49:38.150 --> 00:49:40.140
  • all over town and make sure that
  • 00:49:40.140 --> 00:49:42.070
  • your kids learn all the lyrics
  • 00:49:42.070 --> 00:49:44.200
  • to all the songs.
  • 00:49:44.200 --> 00:49:46.170
  • - Collin: See, Sarah turned out
  • 00:49:46.170 --> 00:49:47.130
  • pretty well, so I think my music
  • 00:49:47.130 --> 00:49:48.230
  • is what did it.
  • 00:49:48.230 --> 00:49:49.200
  • - Mike: That's right.
  • 00:49:49.200 --> 00:49:50.130
  • Thank you, my friend.
  • 00:49:50.130 --> 00:49:51.110
  • Rik, tell us what's coming up
  • 00:49:51.110 --> 00:49:52.140
  • next.
  • 00:49:52.140 --> 00:49:53.170
  • - Rik: Coming up, remember that
  • 00:49:53.170 --> 00:49:54.180
  • $1.3 trillion spending bill
  • 00:49:54.180 --> 00:49:57.090
  • Congress passed this year?
  • 00:49:57.090 --> 00:49:59.020
  • Well, Mike's got an easy way to
  • 00:49:59.020 --> 00:50:00.150
  • stop that kind of reckless
  • 00:50:00.150 --> 00:50:01.270
  • spending.
  • 00:50:01.270 --> 00:50:02.240
  • More "Huckabee" is on the way in
  • 00:50:02.240 --> 00:50:04.170
  • - Mike: And welcome back.
  • 00:50:14.250 --> 00:50:15.270
  • Author P.J. O'Rourke once said
  • 00:50:15.270 --> 00:50:18.070
  • that "it is a popular delusion
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  • that the government wastes vast
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  • amounts of money through
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  • inefficiency and sloth.
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  • It takes enormous effort and
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  • elaborate planning to waste so
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  • much money."
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  • But there is a simple solution
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  • that I wanna offer to that
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  • wretched excess in what we call
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  • this week's edition of "The
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  • - Mike: Well, what happens if
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  • you don't balance your checkbook
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  • and end up spending more than
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  • you make?
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  • You might be like the young man
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  • who seemed a little shocked when
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  • the bank called and told him his
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  • account was overdrawn.
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  • He said, "That can't be.
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  • I still have checks in my
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  • checkbook."
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  • You don't get to spend money you
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  • don't have and states can't
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  • either.
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  • When I was a governor we had to
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  • balance our budget by law.
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  • We weren't allowed to spend it
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  • if we didn't have it.
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  • Now, Congress, that's a whole
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  • 'nother story.
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  • Some people go over their
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  • budgets constantly just to stay
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  • in the black.
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  • Congress just goes over and over
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  • and over again and again and
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  • again.
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  • They don't have to balance their
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  • budget, and they don't.
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  • They just keep spending and
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  • borrowing and then passing the
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  • responsibility on to future
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  • generations.
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  • One reason that I support a
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  • balanced-budget amendment to the
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  • Constitution is that it would
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  • force Congress to live like you
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  • do.
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  • They couldn't spend money they
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  • don't have, and they couldn't
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  • borrow money they can't afford
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  • to pay back.
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  • You know the way I see it?
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  • If it's good enough for you, it
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  • ought to be good enough for
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  • [audience applauding]
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  • Our thanks to our five-star
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  • group of guests tonight.
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  • Friends, tonight was the end of
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  • season one of our show, and we
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  • are so grateful for each of you
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  • that have watched our show this
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  • past year.
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  • You better keep watching.
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  • We hope you're gonna join us
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  • next week for the first show of
  • 00:52:09.260 --> 00:52:12.160
  • season two.
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  • Until then, hope you have a
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  • great weekend.
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  • Good night.
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  • God bless.
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