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Jim Scudder, Jr. - Can A Monkey Type Shakespeare?

August 16, 2025 | S7 E342 | 26:0

Jim Scudder interviews special guest Jim Hoff to explore the question: Can a Monkey Type Shakespeare?

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Jim Scudder, Jr.: InGrace | Jim Scudder, Jr. - Can A Monkey Type Shakespeare? | August 16, 2025

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Jim hoff: we could run this overnight and you might get one
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Or two more characters.
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Jim scudder: there's a certain point where it's not going to
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Get it.
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Jim h.: there's only so many chances in the universe.
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It only has so much time.
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Jim s.: are you looking for hope?
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My amazing parents taught me to look for hope in the lord, and
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That gave me a passion to explore god's
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Incredible creation.
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I'm jim scudder junior.
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Let's go on an adventure together and find hope in grace.
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Jim s.: hey, jim scudder junior here in glen rose, texas, and
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Today on "ingrace," we're gonna actually talk about something
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That seems ridiculous, but it's actually been suggested by
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Somebody to say, "hey, a monkey, if you give him a typewriter and
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Enough time, eventually could type a line from shakespeare,"
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Or actually they said a whole sonnet from shakespeare.
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And so somebody wanted to put that to the test.
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His name is jim hoff.
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He's a computer expert, he's a mathematics wizard.
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He's worked with fiber optics.
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But now he talks about creation and how improbable and, really,
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Impossible evolution is.
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And he's going to show us today, demonstrate to us today on
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"ingrace" how many monkeys you would need, how many typewriters
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You would need, and how much time you would need to ever even
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Type one line from shakespeare.
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This is going to be eye opening and kind of hilarious.
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Jim s.: jim hoff, good to have you on "ingrace" today.
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Jim h.: good to be here.
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Jim s.: i'm so impressed with the homeschool conference you
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Guys are holding here in glen rose, letting kids dig for
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Dinosaur footprints.
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Jim h.: yes, it's the first time that we've had something
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Like that.
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Dr. carl baugh, who runs the creation evidence museum, has
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Been doing yearly dinosaur digs, and so this is just a--an
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Expansion of that process.
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Jim s.: some people that think that we came about by random
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Chance, and basically evolution from an ape-like creature to a
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Man, and that's still shown in the textbooks.
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That would require, if it were even possible, at least in our
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Human minds it would require a lot of time for the odds of it
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To be able to actually happen.
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If you just put a typewriter in a monkey cage, what
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Would happen?
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I actually think someone did that, what happened?
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Jim h.: well, this came from quite a while back in the late
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18--19th century.
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Somebody had said that if you gave enough monkeys enough
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Typewriters and had them type long enough, one of them would
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By chance type a shakespearean sonnet.
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That was the idea.
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And so, we thought we'd give that a try.
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Now, you don't have to make this program to find that out.
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It's statistically obvious, but this program will make it clear
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And give you a concrete idea of how likely that is to happen.
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Jim s.: visually and audibly you've added a little bit of an
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Audio component to this.
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Now, before we get into the program that you wrote, and this
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Is the first on "ingrace" that we've had someone sit down with
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A laptop and we're gonna show you a really cool thing, but
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What's your background?
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How are you interested in all of this anyway?
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Jim h.: well, i am an electrical engineer from university
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Of wisconsin.
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I started out my career working on the world's--one of the
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World's most powerful computers.
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At the time it was.
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It was in the guinness book of world records.
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That was where i got started, and it's been digital design all
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My life.
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Jim s.: okay, so they actually did put a--was it a typewriter
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In with a monkey.
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What happened with that?
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Jim h.: they put it into a, i think it was a chimp cage, and
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They were very curious about it.
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They went over to it, but they were just fascinated with the
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S key.
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They just banged on the s key over and over again.
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Yeah, i'm sure they were--
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Jim s.: sat on it, messed on it. yeah, everything else.
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Jim s.: in the 1980s, evolutionist richard dawkins
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Proposed a computer simulation to illustrate how evolution
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Tries to build complexity over time.
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It started with random letters and gradually formed the phrase
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"methinks it is like a weasel."
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But not by chance alone.
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Each generation was guided toward a preset goal, but
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Evolution, even as darwin admits, wouldn't even work
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That way.
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In chapter three of, "the blind watchmaker," dawkins openly
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Admits that the weasel model is misleading in important ways.
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He says, "although the monkey/shakespeare model is
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Useful for explaining the distinction between single-step
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Selection and cumulative selection, it is misleading in
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Important ways.
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One of these is that, in each generation of selective
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'breeding,' the mutant 'progeny' phrases were judged according to
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The criterion of resemblance to a distant ideal target, the
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Phrase methinks it is like a weasel.
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Life isn't like that.
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Evolution has no long-term goal.
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There is no long-distance target, no final perfection to
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Serve as a criterion for selection."
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Also in dawkins's simulation, the computer should have started
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Over from the beginning, not save the previous letter it
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Randomly found.
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In this episode of "ingrace," jim hoff runs a similar test,
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But each time forcing the computer to start the sentence
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Over, showing that pure randomness, like monkeys typing
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At a keyboard, could never produce even one short sentence.
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It's a clear reminder design requires a designer.
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Jim s.: we have design everywhere we see, but people
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Think that we just, you know, we just came about by random
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Process and chance.
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So you said, "okay, let's build a program and let's put that to
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The test and let's kind of show the world that it's not just
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Improbable, it's impossible."
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Jim h.: yes, that's what it is.
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First of all, if you want to go from a naturalistic position,
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All you have to work with is matter, energy, the laws--and
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The laws of physics and chance.
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Jim s.: okay, so of those four, which one could bring about what
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We're talking about, evolution?
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Jim h.: what they're placing their bets on is the chance.
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They're saying that--you know, because we can look at the laws
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Of physics and they don't give us any way--things don't fall
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Together into human beings and things, so it takes a chance
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Thing for that to happen.
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Jim s.: okay, so we're gonna test that, the chance part of
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The component, the one thing they have to hang everything on,
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And we're gonna test that and see what happens.
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Okay, so let's get through it.
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Jim h.: okay, well, i've got a program here.
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You can see we have a chimp there dressed in a lab coat and
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He's banging away on a computer.
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But at the same time we have up at the top, oh, we're trying to
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Type something out and almost right away we got the m.
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Jim s.: so what are we trying to type out here?
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Jim h.: a good one to try was, "methinks it is like a weasel,"
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And that comes from--it's from shakespeare.
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I believe it's from hamlet, and it was just--
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Jim s.: looking at the clouds.
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Jim h.: and they--there's--you see faces or whatever, and one
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Of the characters says, "methinks it's like a
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Weasel," so--
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Jim s.: so why not?
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Throw that in there.
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Let the monkey just randomly peck at this and you're gonna
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See how long it takes.
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Could that ever happen?
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One monkey typing that out?
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And i heard that kind of clicking
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Going on, was that one--
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Jim h.: that was the keys, and then it's gonna start up on
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Its own--
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Jim s.: and was that per second?
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Jim h.: right now it's at one key per second.
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Jim s.: so it's like hitting one key per second, and after how
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Many characters it came up with the m.
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Now, what is that, 1 in 30 chance?
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Because you have about 30 characters programmed into this.
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So you have the alphabet and a few other keys.
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Jim h.: and the reason why we did 30 or 31 is because that
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Squared is 1000.
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Makes a nice--easy to work with.
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So we have--when it types two characters, the first one has 1
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Chance in 30, the next one will have 1 chance in 1000 of
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Coming up.
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Jim s.: okay, so now we're looking for the m-e, and that's
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1 in 1000.
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Okay, so we have exponential increase in the chances of this
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Happening, and that's just the first two letters of this
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Little sentence.
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Jim h.: that's right, and it's trying to find m-e.
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Jim s.: just randomly m-e, okay.
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Jim h.: and it should take about 1000, on average.
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Jim s.: one in a thousand for it to come up with that.
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So we could be sitting here for 1000 seconds
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Is what you're trying to say.
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Jim h.: which is, what, 15 minutes or something like that.
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Jim s.: so our show is only half an hour long.
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Jim h.: so let's not do that.
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So, okay, so we also say here how many characters we've typed:
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84, 85, 86, 87.
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And we're working on the second we matched one character out of,
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"methinks it is like a weasel," and it's colored green.
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So every time you see a green, it's gonna be that one.
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So let's speed it up a little bit, okay?
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If i hit the key one time, now it's gonna do a--two characters
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Per second.
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Now it would only take 500 seconds to find it, but they
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Keep on going here.
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We'll increase a little bit.
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Jim s.: so how many characters are we getting up to?
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Jim h.: let's see, we're getting up--now we're at four.
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Now we're at eight.
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Now it's starting to take off.
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It's gonna sound like a--
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Jim s.: so that's a lot of characters in a second.
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I don't even know if a monkey could be typing that fast.
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Jim h.: no, that would be faster, but this is gonna go way
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Faster than a monkey could type anyhow.
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Jim s.: so it's gotten m quite a few times, but again, that's
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Only 1 in 30 chance, but it has to start
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Over, can't just keep the m.
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Jim h.: that's right, 'cause e by itself means nothing.
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Here's an e up here.
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There are many e's, but it has to be an m--preceded by an m.
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So that's what it's looking for.
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Okay, well, now we're at 8, let's go to 16.
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Jim s.: because we don't want to be here all day.
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And this is just for the first two letters of one line
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In shakespeare.
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Jim h.: so here we go, and now it still hasn't found that m-e.
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See, it found some of these quickly, but this one is taking
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A long time, it's just a chance type of thing.
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Jim s.: it's random. jim h.: okay, so here we go.
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Jim s.: and you--and that you built into this, it's random.
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Jim h.: that's right, that's right.
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To exhibit what happens in nature, okay, so now we're at--
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Jim s.: now the monkey's really cranking these things out.
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What is he up to, 32?
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Jim h.: you--unless you were to be slamming his fingers across
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The keys, you would--
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Jim s.: just almost like hitting them all at one time.
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Jim h.: right, okay, 64.
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And this thing's taking off.
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Jim s.: yeah, i wonder what this is doing to everyone's tvs
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At home.
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It's starting to vibrate off the wall.
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Jim h.: here we go, 120, 125.
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Jim h.: oh, it found the the e. jim s.: all right, we got the e.
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Jim h.: see, now it took 1800 characters before--
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Jim s.: so that's over the average.
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Jim h.: yeah, just a little longer.
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But remember, when it found the m, it found it quickly.
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So you just never know what's gonna be quick and what's
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Gonna be--
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Jim s.: it's just math.
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Jim h.: okay, so now let's get this thing going.
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Jim s.: so now we're looking for the t.
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Jim h.: now we're looking for m-e-t.
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And so you can see that there are green characters all the
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Time, and every once in a while you'll see one with an m-e
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Behind it, but it's looking for m-e-t, okay?
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Here we go, keep on going.
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I hope you can hear us over the--over this thing.
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Jim s.: 'cause now it almost feels like we have a tornado
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Warning coming in to the house.
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Everyone's gonna be getting into the basement.
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Jim h.: so we've now have done--
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Jim s.: so this is cranking.
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Jim h.: we've done 12,000 characters, and we're climbing,
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And it's gonna have to do on average about 30,000 in order to
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Get that third character.
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Jim s.: so we went from 30 to 1000 to 30,000?
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Jim h.: right, it goes 30--
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Jim s.: one in thirty thousand to get the three by random
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Chance, m-e-t.
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Jim h.: every two of them is a--multiplies by 1000.
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So, okay.
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Jim s.: so it seems like this would be--m-e-t would be, oh
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Yeah, that'll happen pretty quickly.
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Jim h.: after you saw how fast m was found, you'd think, "it's
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Gonna find it quickly."
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But no, because it takes 30 times longer.
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Jim s.: it has to start over at the m
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And the e again to get the t.
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Jim h.: and occasionally you're seeing the m-e, you can
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See some red in there.
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Oh, it found m-e-t.
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Jim s.: okay, hoo, i just feel so much better now.
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But it was that monkey typing 1000 characters a second.
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How long did it take?
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Jim h.: it took a 37,000 characters, which is a little
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Longer than average.
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Thirty thousand is--would be average.
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So it's right around in that, okay, and now it's--now we're
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Gonna--now we gotta find m-e-t-h, and that will take
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A million.
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That'll take on average a million characters.
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Jim s.: a million characters to randomly get m-e-t-h.
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Jim h.: that's right, see--and that--doesn't that just boggle
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Your mind?
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Jim s.: it does, it does because that's only four characters
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Of--how many are we looking for total?
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What's the total?
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Jim h.: we're looking for, well, it says 42 characters is,
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"methinks it is like a weasel."
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Jim s.: with spaces, space a character?
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Jim h.: right, yes.
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When we're talking about the world, what this is supposed to
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Compare with is amino acids, which are the building blocks of
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Proteins, by chance connecting together and the amino acids are
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Happen to be there.
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That's a hard part in itself, getting amino acids to be there,
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But you have these amino acids, and they connect together.
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And if they happen to connect together, two of them,
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That's interesting.
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Three of them, that's interesting.
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But the thing is, you have to have the whole sentence before
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It means anything.
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M-e-t isn't gonna do anything.
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Jim s.: so in the amino acid illustration, how many would you
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Have to be connecting to have any type of chance?
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Jim h.: one protein, a typical protein is about 400
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Amino acids.
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And you need--the--our evidence that we have empirically is that
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You need at least 300 proteins times 400 per, so you know, what
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Is that?
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Again, multiplied--to 120,000--100--i can't think of
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What it is right offhand, but it'd be 300 times 400 in order
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To have the simplest life that we know of, and we could run
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This overnight and you might get one or two more characters, but.
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Jim s.: but there's a certain point where it's not going to
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Get it.
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Jim h.: there's only so many chances in the universe.
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Jim s.: did you always feel like god created the heavens and the
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Earth, or was there a time in you believed in
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Darwinian evolution?
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Jim h.: in my 20s i was a believer in evolution.
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And i could really remember a moment when i was thinking
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About this.
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I thought, how could it be anything else, and evolution has
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Got to explain it, but--
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Jim s.: because that's all you've ever heard.
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Jim h.: yes, and the thing is there are so many roadblocks in
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This idea of having it happen by chance that we're just
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Scratching the surface.
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Jim s.: this is one little thing, but this is a--okay, jim,
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We have arrived.
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Okay, "methinks," we're halfway to "methinks."
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Jim h.: we--see, we've just sort of taken a million.
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It took 4 million and we got m-e-t-h.
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It just stopped and--okay, now we could let this run all night,
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But i have another program.
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We've reached the limit somewhere.
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Jim s.: pretty much maxed out this.
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Jim h.: yeah, so here what we have is we're showing--first of
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All, just for demonstration purposes, we're gonna type a
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Million, a billion, trillion, quadrillion, quintillion,
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Sextilion, septillion, octillion.
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These are words you probably never have run into before.
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I got them off wikipedia.
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Octillion, nonillion, decillion, undecillion,
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Tredecillion--duodecillion, tredecillion, quattuordecillion,
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All the way up to octodecillion,
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Nono--novemdecillion, vigintillion.
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That's 10 to the 63rd monkeys.
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Jim s.: so i'm assuming that as soon as you hit begin, we're
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Going to get the whole--not just the line, we're going to get the
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Whole thing.
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Jim h.: you would think that any mathematician who's familiar
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With statistics would know that they're only going to get
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63 characters.
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Jim s.: tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow creeps in this
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Petty pace and it's choked again.
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Jim h.: but now notice, we're choking on trillions of years.
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Jim s.: right, so you're way past what even the broadest
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Estimates are of life on this planet.
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Jim h.: see, time is now elapsing 17 trillion, 18
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Trillion, 19 trillion, and we still aren't getting that
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Because it's got to type that over and over and over again
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Before it gets that next character.
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Jim s.: okay, so this is 100% proven to that one piece that
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They hold on to, which is chance, is impossible.
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Jim h.: it just cannot do it.
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That should be proof to anybody that's reasonable.
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Jim s.: yes, well, and that's the bottom line is reasonable.
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So, we want to, even christians, we need to be, you know, i don't
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Think--some people think you have to just kind of throw away
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Your brain to be a christian.
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I really think it's the opposite.
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I think there are so many proofs of god, of the story of the
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Bible, and it's always been proven historically,
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Archaeologically, prophetically.
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And again, you--we've--you've just demonstrated by pure
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Science, pure math that it could not come about by random chance
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And process.
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Therefore, we were created.
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Jim h.: yes, and you know, some people kind of balk at this
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Because they feel like we're trying to get rid of faith, but
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We're not trying to get rid of faith.
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Faith isn't blinding your eyes and not looking at mathematics.
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Faith is you're taking--filling in those holes where god isn't
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There all the time spoon-feeding you.
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Every once in a while he lets you be on your own, as david
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Talks about in the psalms, and those are the times when you
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Need the faith, so.
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Jim s.: and faith comes in in the spiritual component.
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The bible says that we're sinners, that we've rebelled,
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That we've gone against god, and we need salvation.
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So faith comes in at, is jesus the son of god?
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You know, which again, i think there's many proofs of that, the
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Resurrection, many infallible proofs, many people saw him.
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But faith comes in at, what--did jesus, when he was on the cross,
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Did he become sin for me?
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There's faith, right?
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'cause there's no empirical data that's gonna prove that, so--but
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I believe it.
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Jesus rose again and he--he offered me eternal life and he
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Said whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have
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Everlasting life.
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So that's really what it all comes down to.
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We're not just out here to say evolution's wrong, we're out
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Here to say creation is true and the creator loves you.
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Jim h.: amen, amen.
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That's right.
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And there--an interesting thing happened.
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Christopher hitchens, who recently passed away, he was a
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Well-known atheist, and he was having a debate with frank
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Turek, who's an apologist.
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At the end of it, frank turek said, "let me get this straight,
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Christopher hitchens.
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You believe that god does not exist and you hate him," and
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That was basically what it was, you know.
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Christopher hitchens has some vendetta against god.
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It's not that he doesn't believe that god exists.
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He knows, but he doesn't want to accept god because god
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Represents something bad to him.
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Jim s.: and usually, that's what--that's the case, is
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Something happened, something bad happened, and i can't
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Explain all of that.
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Certainly, why would god who's good, allow this bad thing in
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My life?
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But i know one thing.
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I know he's good because he's proven that by sending his only
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Begotten son to die for our sins.
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And we're still not done with your program.
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After 207 trillion years, we still won't have one sentence
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Of shakespeare.
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We're getting closer, but we're still not there.
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So, you've blown all of the random chance and process theory
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Out of the water.
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Thank you, jim, for putting it to the test, putting a lot of
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Monkeys to work, keeping them employed.
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Jim h.: we didn't blow up the computer.
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Jim s.: the computer's starting to smoke a little bit, so we
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Better shut her down here and turn off the light.
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But thank you very much for being on "ingrace."
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It's been delightful.
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Jim h.: thank you, jim.
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It was a wonderful experience being here with you.
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Jim s.: thank you. god bless.
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Jim s.: well, how silly it is for a man to think that an
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Animal like a monkey could ever type even a line of shakespeare.
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So what does all that mean?
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Well, it means that we didn't come about by random processes
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And chance.
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That means that we were created.
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That means that we are also accountable to the creator.
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See, the bible says that god created us and we sin.
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We've rebelled against him.
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We have fallen away, fallen short of the glory of god.
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We've missed the mark by a mile.
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But god loves us.
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He created us for fellowship and he wants to fellowship with us.
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But if we reject him because of our rebellion and sin, we will
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Never be able to be with him.
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We will be separated from him in a place created for the devil,
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The demons, a place called hell.
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But that's not what god wants.
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God loves you so much that his son, jesus, came and died on a
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Cross for your sins.
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He rose again the third day and he has promised any person, boy,
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Girl, man, woman, black, white, whatever accent you have or
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Whatever education you have or don't have, whatever your bank
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Account says, it doesn't matter, jesus died for you.
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He is god in the flesh, he died on a cross, he poured out his
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Blood for your sins.
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He was perfect.
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He didn't deserve to die, but he died because he loves you.
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Don't reject him.
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Yeah, something bad may have happened in your life.
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You might have seen just tragedies and abuse or whatever
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It is, maybe someone died that you love dearly or you saw
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Cancer taking away someone's health, whatever the calamity
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Was, let me just tell you, there's a lot of bad things in
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This world, but there are a lot of good things.
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There is a god who is good.
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He cares deeply about you.
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He has actually sent his son to die for your sins on the cross,
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And if you will by faith believe in him, trust in him, you will
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Be saved right now and you will never lose what you have that is
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Called eternal life.
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You can be saved right now and never lose that by simply
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Believing, trusting in jesus.
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Say, "lord, i'm a sinner.
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I can't save myself.
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But right now i put my trust, my dependence in jesus."
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Please, put your faith in him alone today.
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Jim Scudder, Jr. - Can A Monkey Type Shakespeare?

August 16, 2025 | S7 E342 | 26:0

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