Sometimes following God means confronting a problem you’d rather forget. Joyce shares her testimony and stories from God’s Word to encourage you.
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Joyce Meyer: Enjoying Everyday Life | Joyce Meyer - Chasing Your Future by Confronting Your Past (Part 1) | September 10, 2025
- >> joyce: the way to get
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- >> joyce: the way to get to the point where you
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- >> joyce: the way to get to the point where you are not afraid of things
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- To the point where you are not afraid of things is to face them.
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- Are not afraid of things is to face them. the only way that fear ever goes
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- Is to face them. the only way that fear ever goes away is when you face it,
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- The only way that fear ever goes away is when you face it, when you confront it.
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- Away is when you face it, when you confront it. gotta learn how to do it afraid.
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- >> joyce: i'm joyce meyer,
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- >> joyce: i'm joyce meyer, and i believe that god can heal
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- >> joyce: i'm joyce meyer, and i believe that god can heal you everywhere you hurt.
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- >> joyce: i want to talk to you
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- >> joyce: i want to talk to you tonight about ways that people
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- >> joyce: i want to talk to you tonight about ways that people run from their problems, how we
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- Tonight about ways that people run from their problems, how we avoid things instead of dealing
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- Run from their problems, how we avoid things instead of dealing with them because i believe
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- Avoid things instead of dealing with them because i believe that we are in a time in our
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- With them because i believe that we are in a time in our society when so many people
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- That we are in a time in our society when so many people are running from everything,
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- Society when so many people are running from everything, from their responsibility
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- Are running from everything, from their responsibility to accountability.
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- From their responsibility to accountability. people run from hard work,
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- To accountability. people run from hard work, they run from hard things.
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- People run from hard work, they run from hard things. they try to avoid
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- They run from hard things. they try to avoid difficult places.
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- They try to avoid difficult places. they try to avoid
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- Difficult places. they try to avoid difficult people.
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- They try to avoid difficult people. they try to avoid all kinds of
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- Difficult people. they try to avoid all kinds of pain, not that anybody loves
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- They try to avoid all kinds of pain, not that anybody loves pain, but there's a little bit
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- Pain, not that anybody loves pain, but there's a little bit of pain always in being
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- Pain, but there's a little bit of pain always in being set free.
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- Of pain always in being set free. people run from themselves.
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- Set free. people run from themselves. a lot of people don't even know
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- People run from themselves. a lot of people don't even know themselves at all.
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- A lot of people don't even know themselves at all. they run from the truth.
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- Themselves at all. they run from the truth. they run from the past.
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- They run from the truth. they run from the past. they're afraid of the future,
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- But the bible teaches us that
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- But the bible teaches us that god wants us to live
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- But the bible teaches us that god wants us to live courageously, that he wants us
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- God wants us to live courageously, that he wants us to be bold and strong in him
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- Courageously, that he wants us to be bold and strong in him and to not really cower from
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- To be bold and strong in him and to not really cower from anything but to know that he is
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- And to not really cower from anything but to know that he is always with us and because god
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- Anything but to know that he is always with us and because god is with us, we can face and deal
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- Always with us and because god is with us, we can face and deal with anything that we need to
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- Is with us, we can face and deal with anything that we need to face and deal with in our lives.
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- With anything that we need to face and deal with in our lives. if you believe that, say "amen."
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- Face and deal with in our lives. if you believe that, say "amen." >> audience: amen.
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- If you believe that, say "amen." >> audience: amen. >> joyce: i believe that instead
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- >> audience: amen. >> joyce: i believe that instead of running, we have to learn to
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- >> joyce: i believe that instead of running, we have to learn to stand still and see
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- Of running, we have to learn to stand still and see the salvation of the lord.
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- Stand still and see the salvation of the lord. now there's an interesting thing
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- The salvation of the lord. now there's an interesting thing about running and i'm gonna show
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- Now there's an interesting thing about running and i'm gonna show you four different places in
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- About running and i'm gonna show you four different places in the bible to prove this that
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- You four different places in the bible to prove this that whatever you run from, god will
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- The bible to prove this that whatever you run from, god will eventually take you back to that
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- Whatever you run from, god will eventually take you back to that thing or that place that you ran
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- Eventually take you back to that thing or that place that you ran from and you will have to deal
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- Thing or that place that you ran from and you will have to deal with it before you can ever
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- From and you will have to deal with it before you can ever really get well.
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- With it before you can ever really get well. i got a few people that have
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- Really get well. i got a few people that have actually been there, i guess,
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- I got a few people that have actually been there, i guess, because you're getting it.
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- Actually been there, i guess, because you're getting it. amen?
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- Because you're getting it. amen? now you know i was abused by my
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- Amen? now you know i was abused by my father sexually so when i left
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- Now you know i was abused by my father sexually so when i left home, i just thought well, that
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- Father sexually so when i left home, i just thought well, that was over, but i realize later
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- Home, i just thought well, that was over, but i realize later that i took it with me and it
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- Was over, but i realize later that i took it with me and it was in my soul and i didn't want
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- That i took it with me and it was in my soul and i didn't want to deal with it.
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- Was in my soul and i didn't want to deal with it. it was painful.
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- To deal with it. it was painful. i didn't want to deal with it so
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- It was painful. i didn't want to deal with it so effectively i was running from
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- I didn't want to deal with it so effectively i was running from it because i just didn't want
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- Effectively i was running from it because i just didn't want to face it.
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- It because i just didn't want to face it. i didn't want to talk about it.
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- To face it. i didn't want to talk about it. i didn't want to pray about it.
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- I didn't want to talk about it. i didn't want to pray about it. i just wanted to pretend like
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- I didn't want to pray about it. i just wanted to pretend like it didn't exist.
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- I just wanted to pretend like it didn't exist. i wonder if you have anything in
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- It didn't exist. i wonder if you have anything in your life from your past or even
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- I wonder if you have anything in your life from your past or even anything that maybe god's trying
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- Your life from your past or even anything that maybe god's trying to deal with you right now that
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- Anything that maybe god's trying to deal with you right now that you just have developed all
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- To deal with you right now that you just have developed all these nifty little ways of just
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- You just have developed all these nifty little ways of just pretending like it
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- These nifty little ways of just pretending like it doesn't exist.
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- Pretending like it doesn't exist. >> [audience applauding]
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- Doesn't exist. >> [audience applauding] >> joyce: 'cause you really
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- >> [audience applauding] >> joyce: 'cause you really don't want to deal with it.
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- >> joyce: 'cause you really don't want to deal with it. well, let me tell ya something,
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- Don't want to deal with it. well, let me tell ya something, sweeping things under the rug,
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- Well, let me tell ya something, sweeping things under the rug, so to speak, is actually
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- Sweeping things under the rug, so to speak, is actually a very dangerous thing.
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- So to speak, is actually a very dangerous thing. just because you choose not to
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- A very dangerous thing. just because you choose not to look at it, that doesn't mean
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- Just because you choose not to look at it, that doesn't mean that it's not there.
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- Look at it, that doesn't mean that it's not there. and god has anointed us to deal
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- That it's not there. and god has anointed us to deal with stuff and not run.
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- And god has anointed us to deal with stuff and not run. well, eventually--and i'm not
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- With stuff and not run. well, eventually--and i'm not suggesting that anybody do what
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- Well, eventually--and i'm not suggesting that anybody do what god had me do.
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- Suggesting that anybody do what god had me do. i am suggesting, however, that
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- God had me do. i am suggesting, however, that you do whatever god does
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- I am suggesting, however, that you do whatever god does lead you to do.
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- You do whatever god does lead you to do. now let me say that again, you
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- Lead you to do. now let me say that again, you don't need to do what god led me
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- Now let me say that again, you don't need to do what god led me to do, but you do need to do
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- Don't need to do what god led me to do, but you do need to do what god leads you to do and he
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- To do, but you do need to do what god leads you to do and he does lead us in different ways.
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- What god leads you to do and he does lead us in different ways. so i was praying one day and i
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- Does lead us in different ways. so i was praying one day and i felt like god just put it on my
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- So i was praying one day and i felt like god just put it on my heart, "the time is not yet,
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- Felt like god just put it on my heart, "the time is not yet, but the time is gonna come when
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- Heart, "the time is not yet, but the time is gonna come when you're gonna have to go and face
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- But the time is gonna come when you're gonna have to go and face your father and confront him
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- You're gonna have to go and face your father and confront him about what he did to you."
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- Your father and confront him about what he did to you." if you've ever known anything
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- About what he did to you." if you've ever known anything about sexual abuse from watching
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- If you've ever known anything about sexual abuse from watching tv programs, or because it
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- About sexual abuse from watching tv programs, or because it happened to you, or from knowing
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- Tv programs, or because it happened to you, or from knowing somebody that it happened to,
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- Happened to you, or from knowing somebody that it happened to, the whole thing operates
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- Somebody that it happened to, the whole thing operates on this terrible secrecy.
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- The whole thing operates on this terrible secrecy. "don't tell anybody.
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- On this terrible secrecy. "don't tell anybody. don't tell your mother.
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- "don't tell anybody. don't tell your mother. don't let anybody know."
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- Don't tell your mother. don't let anybody know." the abuser's telling you that
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- Don't let anybody know." the abuser's telling you that it's a good thing but at the
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- The abuser's telling you that it's a good thing but at the same time they're telling you
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- It's a good thing but at the same time they're telling you to hide it, which is an oxymoron
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- Same time they're telling you to hide it, which is an oxymoron and doesn't make any sense.
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- To hide it, which is an oxymoron and doesn't make any sense. so i spent my whole life hiding
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- And doesn't make any sense. so i spent my whole life hiding everything that he was doing
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- So i spent my whole life hiding everything that he was doing to me, afraid to tell anybody.
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- Everything that he was doing to me, afraid to tell anybody. and the last person that you
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- To me, afraid to tell anybody. and the last person that you ever confronted about
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- And the last person that you ever confronted about it was him.
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- Ever confronted about it was him. i remember one time writing
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- It was him. i remember one time writing a letter telling him how awful
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- I remember one time writing a letter telling him how awful what he was doing to me made me
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- A letter telling him how awful what he was doing to me made me feel, and i just got in so much
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- What he was doing to me made me feel, and i just got in so much trouble and got punished and
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- Feel, and i just got in so much trouble and got punished and so i was afraid to ever even
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- Trouble and got punished and so i was afraid to ever even attempt to say anything
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- So i was afraid to ever even attempt to say anything to him again.
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- And i think one of the most
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- And i think one of the most devastating things for me was
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- And i think one of the most devastating things for me was being forced to act as if i
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- Devastating things for me was being forced to act as if i liked something that i actually
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- Being forced to act as if i liked something that i actually hated and despised.
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- Liked something that i actually hated and despised. it was manipulation and control
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- Hated and despised. it was manipulation and control in the worst way.
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- It was manipulation and control in the worst way. so when god told me that i was
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- In the worst way. so when god told me that i was gonna have to go and confront
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- So when god told me that i was gonna have to go and confront him and speak with him openly
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- Gonna have to go and confront him and speak with him openly about what he did to me and how
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- Him and speak with him openly about what he did to me and how it affected me, the very
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- About what he did to me and how it affected me, the very thoughts of it just scared
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- It affected me, the very thoughts of it just scared the living daylights out of me
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- Thoughts of it just scared the living daylights out of me and it was the last thing in
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- The living daylights out of me and it was the last thing in the world that i wanted to do.
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- And it was the last thing in the world that i wanted to do. and i sure was glad that on that
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- The world that i wanted to do. and i sure was glad that on that day god spoke to my heart,
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- And i sure was glad that on that day god spoke to my heart, "the time is not now,
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- Day god spoke to my heart, "the time is not now, but it will come."
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- And so maybe i could just say to
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- And so maybe i could just say to you tonight, maybe god is just
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- And so maybe i could just say to you tonight, maybe god is just wanting you to get ready, at
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- You tonight, maybe god is just wanting you to get ready, at least mentally, to be willing to
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- Wanting you to get ready, at least mentally, to be willing to deal with things that you may
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- Least mentally, to be willing to deal with things that you may need to deal with in order
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- Deal with things that you may need to deal with in order to get well.
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- Need to deal with in order to get well. you see the thing is, is you
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- To get well. you see the thing is, is you can't run from things and hide
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- You see the thing is, is you can't run from things and hide from things and ever really
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- Can't run from things and hide from things and ever really get well.
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- From things and ever really get well. you know whether it's a sin in
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- Get well. you know whether it's a sin in your life that you need to deal
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- You know whether it's a sin in your life that you need to deal openly with, with god, whether
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- Your life that you need to deal openly with, with god, whether you need to go back and make
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- Openly with, with god, whether you need to go back and make some restitution with somebody
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- You need to go back and make some restitution with somebody that you really hurt and
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- Some restitution with somebody that you really hurt and wounded, maybe somebody in your
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- That you really hurt and wounded, maybe somebody in your life has really mistreated you
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- Wounded, maybe somebody in your life has really mistreated you and they're living in this
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- Life has really mistreated you and they're living in this fantasy land that it didn't
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- And they're living in this fantasy land that it didn't bother them.
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- Fantasy land that it didn't bother them. and maybe for their sake you
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- Bother them. and maybe for their sake you need to go back and in a loving
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- And maybe for their sake you need to go back and in a loving way sit down and confront them,
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- Need to go back and in a loving way sit down and confront them, and tell them what they did to
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- Way sit down and confront them, and tell them what they did to you, and how they made you feel.
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- And tell them what they did to you, and how they made you feel. sometimes you can't get
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- You, and how they made you feel. sometimes you can't get well without that.
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- Sometimes you can't get well without that. and i know that all of you are
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- Well without that. and i know that all of you are not hurt in the way that i was
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- And i know that all of you are not hurt in the way that i was hurt or the way that some other
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- Not hurt in the way that i was hurt or the way that some other people in here have been hurt,
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- Hurt or the way that some other people in here have been hurt, but let me tell ya, i believe
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- People in here have been hurt, but let me tell ya, i believe that what i'm gonna share with
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- But let me tell ya, i believe that what i'm gonna share with you tonight applies to every
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- That what i'm gonna share with you tonight applies to every single one of us in some way,
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- You tonight applies to every single one of us in some way, shape, or form, even people who
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- Single one of us in some way, shape, or form, even people who let other people manipulate them
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- Shape, or form, even people who let other people manipulate them and control them because they're
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- Let other people manipulate them and control them because they're afraid to make them mad.
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- Don't let somebody else steal
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- Don't let somebody else steal your life because you're afraid
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- Don't let somebody else steal your life because you're afraid to confront them and say, "you
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- Your life because you're afraid to confront them and say, "you really have no right to control
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- To confront them and say, "you really have no right to control me and manipulate me, and i'm
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- Really have no right to control me and manipulate me, and i'm not gonna let you continue
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- Me and manipulate me, and i'm not gonna let you continue to do it."
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- Not gonna let you continue to do it." can anybody say, "amen"?
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- To do it." can anybody say, "amen"? >> audience: amen!
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- >> joyce: i mean we want
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- >> joyce: i mean we want to come under
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- >> joyce: i mean we want to come under godly authority and be
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- To come under godly authority and be submissive but that doesn't mean
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- Godly authority and be submissive but that doesn't mean that you let somebody else
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- Submissive but that doesn't mean that you let somebody else manipulate you and control you
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- That you let somebody else manipulate you and control you and live your life for you.
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- Manipulate you and control you and live your life for you. we are to be god pleasers
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- And live your life for you. we are to be god pleasers and not men pleasers.
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- We are to be god pleasers and not men pleasers. and so i was glad that god
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- And not men pleasers. and so i was glad that god didn't have me do it right then
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- And so i was glad that god didn't have me do it right then 'cause i sure didn't feel
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- Didn't have me do it right then 'cause i sure didn't feel like i was ready.
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- 'cause i sure didn't feel like i was ready. but i don't know how long went
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- Like i was ready. but i don't know how long went by, maybe a couple years and i
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- But i don't know how long went by, maybe a couple years and i was spending some time with the
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- By, maybe a couple years and i was spending some time with the lord again one night and i mean
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- Was spending some time with the lord again one night and i mean just in the middle of prayer
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- Lord again one night and i mean just in the middle of prayer i heard the holy spirit say,
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- Just in the middle of prayer i heard the holy spirit say, "the time is now."
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- I heard the holy spirit say, "the time is now." oh, my gosh.
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- "the time is now." oh, my gosh. well, i was shaking so hard
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- Oh, my gosh. well, i was shaking so hard and so scared.
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- Well, i was shaking so hard and so scared. but dave went with me and i went
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- And so scared. but dave went with me and i went and i sat down in front
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- But dave went with me and i went and i sat down in front of my dad.
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- And i sat down in front of my dad. and, of course, my mother was in
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- Of my dad. and, of course, my mother was in the house and so i was very
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- And, of course, my mother was in the house and so i was very concerned about what was gonna
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- The house and so i was very concerned about what was gonna happen to her because she'd
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- Concerned about what was gonna happen to her because she'd already had a nervous breakdown
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- Happen to her because she'd already had a nervous breakdown from not dealing with her issues
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- Already had a nervous breakdown from not dealing with her issues and the things going on in
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- From not dealing with her issues and the things going on in our home.
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- And the things going on in our home. and so it was quite a frightful
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- Our home. and so it was quite a frightful scene but i remember confronting
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- And so it was quite a frightful scene but i remember confronting him and telling him, "we need to
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- Scene but i remember confronting him and telling him, "we need to talk about what you did to me."
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- Him and telling him, "we need to talk about what you did to me." and boy, he got mad
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- Talk about what you did to me." and boy, he got mad and started firing all
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- And boy, he got mad and started firing all kinds of things back at me.
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- And started firing all kinds of things back at me. "well, you know, wanted me
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- Kinds of things back at me. "well, you know, wanted me to do it," and this and that.
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- "well, you know, wanted me to do it," and this and that. i said, "that is ridiculous.
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- To do it," and this and that. i said, "that is ridiculous. you controlled me with fear,
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- I said, "that is ridiculous. you controlled me with fear, and i hated you, and i hated
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- You controlled me with fear, and i hated you, and i hated every single thing that you
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- And i hated you, and i hated every single thing that you did to me."
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- Every single thing that you did to me." and so anyway i just told him,
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- Did to me." and so anyway i just told him, "what you did has really hurt
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- And so anyway i just told him, "what you did has really hurt me and it's really caused a lot
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- "what you did has really hurt me and it's really caused a lot of problems in my life
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- Me and it's really caused a lot of problems in my life and it was wrong.
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- Of problems in my life and it was wrong. and i just needed to tell
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- And it was wrong. and i just needed to tell you how i feel about it."
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- And i just needed to tell you how i feel about it." but i did him that because of my
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- You how i feel about it." but i did him that because of my love for god, i was willing
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- But i did him that because of my love for god, i was willing to forgive him, but i wanted him
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- Love for god, i was willing to forgive him, but i wanted him to deal with it so he could get
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- To forgive him, but i wanted him to deal with it so he could get well and not just run from it
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- To deal with it so he could get well and not just run from it and hide from it.
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- Well and not just run from it and hide from it. well, you know, it didn't end
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- And hide from it. well, you know, it didn't end the way i would have liked
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- Well, you know, it didn't end the way i would have liked for it to have ended, but i had
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- The way i would have liked for it to have ended, but i had obeyed god and so a door of
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- For it to have ended, but i had obeyed god and so a door of freedom opened up for me that
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- Obeyed god and so a door of freedom opened up for me that never could have opened if
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- Freedom opened up for me that never could have opened if i would have continued to let
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- Never could have opened if i would have continued to let the fear of man manipulate
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- I would have continued to let the fear of man manipulate me and control me.
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- The fear of man manipulate me and control me. and i said this this morning but
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- Me and control me. and i said this this morning but i'm gonna say it again, for many
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- And i said this this morning but i'm gonna say it again, for many of you, i'm coming with
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- I'm gonna say it again, for many of you, i'm coming with a prophetic word tonight
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- Of you, i'm coming with a prophetic word tonight saying to you, it's time.
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- A prophetic word tonight saying to you, it's time. it's time to get the stuff out
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- Saying to you, it's time. it's time to get the stuff out from under the rug that you've
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- It's time to get the stuff out from under the rug that you've stuffed under there.
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- From under the rug that you've stuffed under there. you don't wanna stuff
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- Stuffed under there. you don't wanna stuff your stuff.
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- You don't wanna stuff your stuff. you gotta deal with things
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- Your stuff. you gotta deal with things because if you don't deal with
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- You gotta deal with things because if you don't deal with them, they will deal with you.
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- Because if you don't deal with them, they will deal with you. they steal your joy and they
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- Them, they will deal with you. they steal your joy and they just get more deeply rooted on
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- They steal your joy and they just get more deeply rooted on the inside of you and it causes
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- Just get more deeply rooted on the inside of you and it causes deep, deep, deep problems.
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- The inside of you and it causes deep, deep, deep problems. we don't want to run and hide
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- Deep, deep, deep problems. we don't want to run and hide from anything, not even
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- We don't want to run and hide from anything, not even something as little as getting
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- From anything, not even something as little as getting a stupid closet cleaned out
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- Something as little as getting a stupid closet cleaned out or getting our house in order
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- A stupid closet cleaned out or getting our house in order that's a wreck.
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- Or getting our house in order that's a wreck. we need to stop acting like
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- That's a wreck. we need to stop acting like everything overwhelms us and
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- We need to stop acting like everything overwhelms us and know who we are in christ, that
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- Everything overwhelms us and know who we are in christ, that he is emmanuel, god with us,
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- Know who we are in christ, that he is emmanuel, god with us, that he is in us
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- He is emmanuel, god with us, that he is in us and the greater one lives in us.
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- That he is in us and the greater one lives in us. let's don't just sing songs
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- And the greater one lives in us. let's don't just sing songs about it.
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- Let's don't just sing songs about it. let's live it.
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- About it. let's live it. >> [audience applauding]
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- Let's live it. >> [audience applauding] >> joyce: amen?
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- >> [audience applauding] >> joyce: amen? so just the point that when you
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- >> joyce: amen? so just the point that when you run from anything, god will
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- So just the point that when you run from anything, god will ultimately make you go back
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- Run from anything, god will ultimately make you go back and face it.
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- Ultimately make you go back and face it. moses, acts chapter 7, verse 22,
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- "so moses was educated in all
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- "so moses was educated in all the wisdom and culture of
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- "so moses was educated in all the wisdom and culture of the egyptians, and he was
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- The wisdom and culture of the egyptians, and he was mighty (powerful) in his speech
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- The egyptians, and he was mighty (powerful) in his speech and in his deeds."
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- Mighty (powerful) in his speech and in his deeds." you see, god was training him
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- For him something he was
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- For him something he was going to be doing years later.
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- For him something he was going to be doing years later. and some of you right now may
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- Going to be doing years later. and some of you right now may think that what you're doing is
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- And some of you right now may think that what you're doing is just so useless because you got
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- Think that what you're doing is just so useless because you got a dream to do this other thing,
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- Just so useless because you got a dream to do this other thing, but everything that we do is
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- A dream to do this other thing, but everything that we do is part of the next thing that
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- But everything that we do is part of the next thing that we're going to do.
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- Amen?
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- Amen? "and when he was in his
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- Amen? "and when he was in his fortieth year,
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- "and when he was in his fortieth year, it came into his heart to
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- Fortieth year, it came into his heart to visit his kinsmen the children
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- It came into his heart to visit his kinsmen the children of israel [to help them
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- Visit his kinsmen the children of israel [to help them and to care for them]."
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- Of israel [to help them and to care for them]." he had a desire to help people.
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- And to care for them]." he had a desire to help people. that was a good thing.
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- He had a desire to help people. that was a good thing. "and on seeing one of them being
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- That was a good thing. "and on seeing one of them being unjustly treated, he defended
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- "and on seeing one of them being unjustly treated, he defended the oppressed man and avenged
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- Unjustly treated, he defended the oppressed man and avenged him by striking down
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- The oppressed man and avenged him by striking down the egyptian and slaying [him].
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- Him by striking down the egyptian and slaying [him]. he expected--" and i love this
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- The egyptian and slaying [him]. he expected--" and i love this verse and i'm gonna talk to you
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- He expected--" and i love this verse and i'm gonna talk to you a little bit more about tomorrow
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- Verse and i'm gonna talk to you a little bit more about tomorrow about why i like it so much.
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- A little bit more about tomorrow about why i like it so much. "he expected his brethren to
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- About why i like it so much. "he expected his brethren to understand that god was granting
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- "he expected his brethren to understand that god was granting them deliverance by his hand
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- Understand that god was granting them deliverance by his hand [taking it for granted that they
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- Them deliverance by his hand [taking it for granted that they would accept him];
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- [taking it for granted that they would accept him]; but they did not understand."
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- Would accept him]; but they did not understand." you know, i thought when god
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- But they did not understand." you know, i thought when god called me into ministry that
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- You know, i thought when god called me into ministry that everybody would clap and cheer,
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- Called me into ministry that everybody would clap and cheer, but they did not clap and cheer.
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- Everybody would clap and cheer, but they did not clap and cheer. they did not understand.
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- But they did not clap and cheer. they did not understand. they were not excited, and i got
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- They did not understand. they were not excited, and i got the exact opposite of what i
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- They were not excited, and i got the exact opposite of what i expected from people.
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- The exact opposite of what i expected from people. do you ever get the exact
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- Expected from people. do you ever get the exact opposite of what you expected
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- Do you ever get the exact opposite of what you expected from people?
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- Opposite of what you expected from people? you know what?
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- From people? you know what? god doesn't want us to make our
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- You know what? god doesn't want us to make our decisions based on whether or
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- God doesn't want us to make our decisions based on whether or not people clap and applaud.
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- He wants us to do what we do
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- He wants us to do what we do because we believe that's what
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- He wants us to do what we do because we believe that's what he wants us to do.
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- Because we believe that's what he wants us to do. it's time for some people to
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- He wants us to do. it's time for some people to stand up and be strong in the
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- It's time for some people to stand up and be strong in the lord and stop being manipulated
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- Stand up and be strong in the lord and stop being manipulated by popular opinion.
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- "then on the next day he
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- "then on the next day he suddenly appeared to some who
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- "then on the next day he suddenly appeared to some who were quarreling and fighting
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- Suddenly appeared to some who were quarreling and fighting among themselves, and he urged
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- Were quarreling and fighting among themselves, and he urged them to make peace and become
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- Among themselves, and he urged them to make peace and become reconciled, saying,
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- Them to make peace and become reconciled, saying, 'men, you are brethren;
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- Reconciled, saying, 'men, you are brethren; why do you abuse
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- 'men, you are brethren; why do you abuse and wrong one another?'
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- Why do you abuse and wrong one another?' whereupon the man who was
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- And wrong one another?' whereupon the man who was abusing his neighbor pushed
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- Whereupon the man who was abusing his neighbor pushed [moses] aside, saying,
- 00:11:54.170 --> 00:11:55.070
- Abusing his neighbor pushed [moses] aside, saying, 'who appointed you a judge
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- [moses] aside, saying, 'who appointed you a judge or a ruler over us?
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- 'who appointed you a judge or a ruler over us? do you intend to kill us like
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- Or a ruler over us? do you intend to kill us like you did the egyptian
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- Do you intend to kill us like you did the egyptian yesterday?'"
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- You did the egyptian yesterday?'" verse 29, "at that reply moses
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- Yesterday?'" verse 29, "at that reply moses sought safety by flight--"
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- Verse 29, "at that reply moses sought safety by flight--" that means he ran away.
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- Sought safety by flight--" that means he ran away. "and he was an exile
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- That means he ran away. "and he was an exile and an alien in the country
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- "and he was an exile and an alien in the country of midian, where he
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- And an alien in the country of midian, where he became the father of two sons.
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- Of midian, where he became the father of two sons. and when forty years had gone
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- Became the father of two sons. and when forty years had gone by--" which now means he was 80.
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- And when forty years had gone by--" which now means he was 80. my goodness.
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- By--" which now means he was 80. my goodness. running can waste a lot of time.
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- My goodness. running can waste a lot of time. "there god appeared to him in
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- Running can waste a lot of time. "there god appeared to him in the wilderness."
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- "there god appeared to him in the wilderness." now you'll notice in all four
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- The wilderness." now you'll notice in all four of these things that i'm gonna
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- Now you'll notice in all four of these things that i'm gonna share with you tonight that
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- Anytime these people ran,
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- Anytime these people ran, they always ended up
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- Anytime these people ran, they always ended up in the wilderness.
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- They always ended up in the wilderness. is anybody with me tonight?
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- In the wilderness. is anybody with me tonight? the wilderness is a dry,
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- Is anybody with me tonight? the wilderness is a dry, miserable, wretched place.
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- The wilderness is a dry, miserable, wretched place. you don't feel good about
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- Miserable, wretched place. you don't feel good about anything in your life and then
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- You don't feel good about anything in your life and then it develops all kinds of other
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- Anything in your life and then it develops all kinds of other problems because if you don't
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- It develops all kinds of other problems because if you don't like what you're doing, then
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- Problems because if you don't like what you're doing, then someway, you have to find
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- Like what you're doing, then someway, you have to find someway to make an excuse for it
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- Someway, you have to find someway to make an excuse for it or to blame it on somebody else.
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- And we get so far down the
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- And we get so far down the rabbit hole that we don't have
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- And we get so far down the rabbit hole that we don't have any know how of how to get out.
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- Rabbit hole that we don't have any know how of how to get out. "so after forty more years had
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- Any know how of how to get out. "so after forty more years had went by, and he was now 80,
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- "so after forty more years had went by, and he was now 80, "god appeared to him in
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- Went by, and he was now 80, "god appeared to him in a burning bush.
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- "god appeared to him in a burning bush. when moses saw it, he was
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- A burning bush. when moses saw it, he was astonished and marveled at the
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- When moses saw it, he was astonished and marveled at the sight; and then he went close to
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- Astonished and marveled at the sight; and then he went close to investigate, there came to him
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- Sight; and then he went close to investigate, there came to him the voice of the lord, saying--"
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- Investigate, there came to him the voice of the lord, saying--" now this is so good.
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- The voice of the lord, saying--" now this is so good. "'i am the god
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- Now this is so good. "'i am the god of your forefathers,
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- "'i am the god of your forefathers, the god of abraham,
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- Of your forefathers, the god of abraham, of isaac and of jacob.'
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- The god of abraham, of isaac and of jacob.' and moses trembled and was
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- Of isaac and of jacob.' and moses trembled and was terrified so much that he did
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- And moses trembled and was terrified so much that he did not even choose to look.
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- Terrified so much that he did not even choose to look. then the lord said to him,
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- Not even choose to look. then the lord said to him, 'take your sandals
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- Then the lord said to him, 'take your sandals off your feet,
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- 'take your sandals off your feet, the ground on which you're
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- Off your feet, the ground on which you're standing is holy ground.'"
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- The ground on which you're standing is holy ground.'" verse 34, "'because i have most
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- Standing is holy ground.'" verse 34, "'because i have most assuredly seen the abuse and
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- Verse 34, "'because i have most assuredly seen the abuse and oppression of my people in egypt
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- Assuredly seen the abuse and oppression of my people in egypt and i have heard their sighings
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- Oppression of my people in egypt and i have heard their sighings and groanings, i have come down
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- And i have heard their sighings and groanings, i have come down to rescue them.'"
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- And groanings, i have come down to rescue them.'" now watch this, "'so, now come!
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- To rescue them.'" now watch this, "'so, now come! and i will send you back
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- Now watch this, "'so, now come! and i will send you back to egypt.'"
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- And i will send you back to egypt.'" come on, somebody ought
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- To egypt.'" come on, somebody ought to shout.
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- Come on, somebody ought to shout. >> [audience cheering]
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- To shout. >> [audience cheering] >> joyce: see, how can we ever
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- >> [audience cheering] >> joyce: see, how can we ever be free from anything if we're
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- >> joyce: see, how can we ever be free from anything if we're running from it?
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- Be free from anything if we're running from it? how can we possibly be free from
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- Running from it? how can we possibly be free from it if all we hope is that we
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- How can we possibly be free from it if all we hope is that we never have to deal with
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- It if all we hope is that we never have to deal with it again?
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- Never have to deal with it again? if that's our goal to never have
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- It again? if that's our goal to never have to deal with anything again,
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- If that's our goal to never have to deal with anything again, i can guarantee you the devil's
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- To deal with anything again, i can guarantee you the devil's gonna make sure that you deal
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- I can guarantee you the devil's gonna make sure that you deal with it around every corner.
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- Gonna make sure that you deal with it around every corner. and the way to get to the point
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- With it around every corner. and the way to get to the point where you are not afraid of
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- And the way to get to the point where you are not afraid of things is to face them.
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- The only way that fear ever goes
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- The only way that fear ever goes away is when you face it,
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- The only way that fear ever goes away is when you face it, when you confront it.
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- Away is when you face it, when you confront it. gotta learn how to do it afraid.
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- When you confront it. gotta learn how to do it afraid. when i sat in front of my
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- Gotta learn how to do it afraid. when i sat in front of my father, i was so afraid.
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- When i sat in front of my father, i was so afraid. i was shaking, i was so nervous,
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- Father, i was so afraid. i was shaking, i was so nervous, but i could not get on the other
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- I was shaking, i was so nervous, but i could not get on the other side of it unless i dealt
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- But i could not get on the other side of it unless i dealt with it.
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- Side of it unless i dealt with it. the only way that you can get
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- With it. the only way that you can get free is to deal with things.
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- The only way that you can get free is to deal with things. the truth will make you free,
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- Free is to deal with things. the truth will make you free, but the truth has to be applied
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- The truth will make you free, but the truth has to be applied in your life in order to make
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- But the truth has to be applied in your life in order to make you free.
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- In your life in order to make you free. he ran from egypt and god sent
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- You free. he ran from egypt and god sent him back to egypt.
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- He ran from egypt and god sent him back to egypt. genesis chapter 16,
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- Him back to egypt. genesis chapter 16, verses 8 and 9.
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- Genesis chapter 16, verses 8 and 9. i honestly think that some
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- Verses 8 and 9. i honestly think that some people have things buried so far
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- I honestly think that some people have things buried so far down in them that it's under so
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- People have things buried so far down in them that it's under so many layers, still hurting them
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- Down in them that it's under so many layers, still hurting them and causing them pain,
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- Many layers, still hurting them and causing them pain, but they don't even realize
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- And causing them pain, but they don't even realize it's a problem in their life.
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- But they don't even realize it's a problem in their life. genesis chapter 16,
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- It's a problem in their life. genesis chapter 16, verses 8 and 9.
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- Genesis chapter 16, verses 8 and 9. now, you know, this is a
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- Verses 8 and 9. now, you know, this is a situation where god had promised
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- Now, you know, this is a situation where god had promised abraham and sarah a child
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- Situation where god had promised abraham and sarah a child and sarah wasn't getting
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- Abraham and sarah a child and sarah wasn't getting pregnant fast enough.
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- And sarah wasn't getting pregnant fast enough. and many years had gone by and
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- Pregnant fast enough. and many years had gone by and she was disappointed so she came
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- And many years had gone by and she was disappointed so she came up with this very carnal,
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- She was disappointed so she came up with this very carnal, fleshly, bright idea that she
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- Up with this very carnal, fleshly, bright idea that she would have her handmaiden,
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- Fleshly, bright idea that she would have her handmaiden, hagar, become her husband's
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- Would have her handmaiden, hagar, become her husband's secondary wife, which you would
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- Hagar, become her husband's secondary wife, which you would think any woman would be smarter
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- Secondary wife, which you would think any woman would be smarter than that, but she wasn't.
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- Think any woman would be smarter than that, but she wasn't. and sure enough hagar got
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- Than that, but she wasn't. and sure enough hagar got pregnant and then she got
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- And sure enough hagar got pregnant and then she got an attitude towards sarah.
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- Pregnant and then she got an attitude towards sarah. today it might go
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- An attitude towards sarah. today it might go something like,
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- Today it might go something like, ♪ i'm pregnant
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- Something like, ♪ i'm pregnant and you're not ♪
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- ♪ i'm pregnant and you're not ♪ so sarah got to the point where
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- And you're not ♪ so sarah got to the point where she didn't want hagar around
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- So sarah got to the point where she didn't want hagar around anymore so abraham made
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- She didn't want hagar around anymore so abraham made her leave.
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- Anymore so abraham made her leave. he dealt with her
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- Her leave. he dealt with her afflicting her.
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- He dealt with her afflicting her. he didn't make her leave.
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- And she fled, verse 6 says
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- And she fled, verse 6 says she ran or she fled from
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- And she fled, verse 6 says she ran or she fled from the situation.
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- She ran or she fled from the situation. verse 7,
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- The situation. verse 7, "but the angel of the lord
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- Verse 7, "but the angel of the lord found her by a spring
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- "but the angel of the lord found her by a spring of water--"
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- Found her by a spring of water--" where?
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- Of water--" where? where?
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- Where? where? >> audience: in the wilderness.
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- Where? >> audience: in the wilderness. >> joyce: "on the road to shur.
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- >> audience: in the wilderness. >> joyce: "on the road to shur. and he said, 'hagar, sarai's
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- >> joyce: "on the road to shur. and he said, 'hagar, sarai's maid, where did you come from,
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- And he said, 'hagar, sarai's maid, where did you come from, and where are you going?'
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- Maid, where did you come from, and where are you going?' and she said, 'i am running away
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- And where are you going?' and she said, 'i am running away from my mistress.'"
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- And she said, 'i am running away from my mistress.'" and watch what god said to her.
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- From my mistress.'" and watch what god said to her. he didn't say, "i understand,
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- And watch what god said to her. he didn't say, "i understand, run fast."
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- He didn't say, "i understand, run fast." >> [audience laughing]
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- Run fast." >> [audience laughing] >> joyce: it says, "the angel
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- >> [audience laughing] >> joyce: it says, "the angel of the lord said to her,
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- >> joyce: it says, "the angel of the lord said to her, 'go back.'"
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- Of the lord said to her, 'go back.'" well, "'go back to your
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- 'go back.'" well, "'go back to your mistress and [humbly] submit
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- Well, "'go back to your mistress and [humbly] submit to her control.'"
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- Mistress and [humbly] submit to her control.'" now what kind of a thing
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- To her control.'" now what kind of a thing is that?
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- Now what kind of a thing is that? here this woman is mistreating
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- Is that? here this woman is mistreating her.
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- Here this woman is mistreating her. she's running away from it which
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- Her. she's running away from it which seems like a reasonable thing
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- She's running away from it which seems like a reasonable thing to do.
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- Seems like a reasonable thing to do. let me tell ya something, just
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- To do. let me tell ya something, just because you want to get away
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- Let me tell ya something, just because you want to get away from a place that's
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- Because you want to get away from a place that's uncomfortable for you, that
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- From a place that's uncomfortable for you, that doesn't mean that god wants you
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- Uncomfortable for you, that doesn't mean that god wants you to leave.
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- Doesn't mean that god wants you to leave. >> [audience applauding]
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- To leave. >> [audience applauding] >> joyce: now we're connecting.
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- >> [audience applauding] >> joyce: now we're connecting. hmm...
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- >> joyce: now we're connecting. hmm... now, there are times to leave
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- Hmm... now, there are times to leave places, but it's not when you
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- Now, there are times to leave places, but it's not when you feel like it.
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- Places, but it's not when you feel like it. it's when god makes you leave.
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- Feel like it. it's when god makes you leave. god told abraham to leave.
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- It's when god makes you leave. god told abraham to leave. "you leave the place
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- God told abraham to leave. "you leave the place where you're at.
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- "you leave the place where you're at. you get away from your family
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- Where you're at. you get away from your family and all your relatives and you
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- You get away from your family and all your relatives and you go to a place that i will
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- And all your relatives and you go to a place that i will show you."
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- Go to a place that i will show you." they were all idol worshipers
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- Show you." they were all idol worshipers and god couldn't do anything
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- They were all idol worshipers and god couldn't do anything with abraham until he got away
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- From their influence.
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- From their influence. god may tell you to get away
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- From their influence. god may tell you to get away from some ungodly friends.
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- God may tell you to get away from some ungodly friends. he might tell you to leave a job
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- From some ungodly friends. he might tell you to leave a job where they're making you do
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- He might tell you to leave a job where they're making you do things that are sinful, but
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- Where they're making you do things that are sinful, but there's a lot of other times
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- Things that are sinful, but there's a lot of other times when we leave someplace just
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- There's a lot of other times when we leave someplace just because we're not being treated
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- When we leave someplace just because we're not being treated the way we think we deserve
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- Because we're not being treated the way we think we deserve to be treated.
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- The way we think we deserve to be treated. and maybe learning how to deal
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- To be treated. and maybe learning how to deal with some of those things is
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- And maybe learning how to deal with some of those things is exactly what god wants and he's
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- With some of those things is exactly what god wants and he's got us in the place he wants us
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- Exactly what god wants and he's got us in the place he wants us to be for right now.
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- Got us in the place he wants us to be for right now. i worked for somebody else in
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- To be for right now. i worked for somebody else in ministry for 5 years and i did
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- I worked for somebody else in ministry for 5 years and i did not feel that i was treated
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- Ministry for 5 years and i did not feel that i was treated right and it was hard, hard,
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- Not feel that i was treated right and it was hard, hard, i'm talking to the maximum
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- Right and it was hard, hard, i'm talking to the maximum it was hard.
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- I'm talking to the maximum it was hard. it was one of the hardest things
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- It was hard. it was one of the hardest things that i have ever done in my
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- It was one of the hardest things that i have ever done in my whole life to not just get up
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- That i have ever done in my whole life to not just get up and in my style of doing it say,
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- Whole life to not just get up and in my style of doing it say, "i'm outta here."
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- And in my style of doing it say, "i'm outta here." >> [audience applauding]
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- "i'm outta here." >> [audience applauding] >> joyce: but you know what?
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- >> [audience applauding] >> joyce: but you know what? that would have been easy
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- >> joyce: but you know what? that would have been easy and then once again i could have
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- That would have been easy and then once again i could have avoided somebody else that had
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- And then once again i could have avoided somebody else that had a personality like my dad's.
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- Avoided somebody else that had a personality like my dad's. i could have taken care of
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- A personality like my dad's. i could have taken care of myself instead of waiting for
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- I could have taken care of myself instead of waiting for god to take care of me.
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- Myself instead of waiting for god to take care of me. are you there?
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- God to take care of me. are you there? and i knew that i knew that
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- Are you there? and i knew that i knew that i knew in the pit of my gut that
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- And i knew that i knew that i knew in the pit of my gut that god did want me to go yet.
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- I knew in the pit of my gut that god did want me to go yet. just because you want to do
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- God did want me to go yet. just because you want to do something, that doesn't mean
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- Just because you want to do something, that doesn't mean that you get to do it.
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- Something, that doesn't mean that you get to do it. do i need to say that again?
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- That you get to do it. do i need to say that again? just because you want to do
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- Do i need to say that again? just because you want to do something, that doesn't mean
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- Just because you want to do something, that doesn't mean that you get to do it if we're
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- Something, that doesn't mean that you get to do it if we're gonna be really submitted to
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- That you get to do it if we're gonna be really submitted to god--do you think it was easy
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- Gonna be really submitted to god--do you think it was easy for dave to stay with me
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- God--do you think it was easy for dave to stay with me the first few years that
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- For dave to stay with me the first few years that we were married?
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- The first few years that we were married? it couldn't have been.
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- We were married? it couldn't have been. and i don't really think that
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- It couldn't have been. and i don't really think that dave ever seriously thought
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- And i don't really think that dave ever seriously thought about leaving, but he did
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- Dave ever seriously thought about leaving, but he did finally get around to saying to
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- About leaving, but he did finally get around to saying to me, "if you keep acting the way
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- Finally get around to saying to me, "if you keep acting the way you act, i'm not sure what's
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- Me, "if you keep acting the way you act, i'm not sure what's gonna happen."
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- You act, i'm not sure what's gonna happen." and that was kind of like dave
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- Gonna happen." and that was kind of like dave saying, "i may just be out of
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- And that was kind of like dave saying, "i may just be out of here if this continues,"
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- Saying, "i may just be out of here if this continues," and i knew that he wasn't
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- Here if this continues," and i knew that he wasn't the type of guy to threaten.
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- And i knew that he wasn't the type of guy to threaten. he married me because he felt in
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- The type of guy to threaten. he married me because he felt in his heart that he was supposed
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- He married me because he felt in his heart that he was supposed to and he was committed to
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- His heart that he was supposed to and he was committed to seeing it through to the finish.
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- To and he was committed to seeing it through to the finish. and i believe that sometimes god
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- Seeing it through to the finish. and i believe that sometimes god will take a mature christian
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- And i believe that sometimes god will take a mature christian and he'll put them with somebody
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- Will take a mature christian and he'll put them with somebody who is broken and needs help.
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- And he'll put them with somebody who is broken and needs help. >> [audience applauding]
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- Who is broken and needs help. >> [audience applauding] >> joyce: in our society, we
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- >> [audience applauding] >> joyce: in our society, we have become addicted to comfort.
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- >> joyce: in our society, we have become addicted to comfort. the bible says that we're to
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- Have become addicted to comfort. the bible says that we're to serve god whether it's
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- The bible says that we're to serve god whether it's convenient or inconvenient,
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- Serve god whether it's convenient or inconvenient, comfortable or uncomfortable,
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- Convenient or inconvenient, comfortable or uncomfortable, in season or out of season.
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- Comfortable or uncomfortable, in season or out of season. >> [audience applauding]
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- In season or out of season. >> [audience applauding] >> joyce: so, you know,
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- >> [audience applauding] >> joyce: so, you know, dave didn't have a right
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- >> joyce: so, you know, dave didn't have a right just to run out of the
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- Dave didn't have a right just to run out of the relationship because he felt
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- Just to run out of the relationship because he felt like it.
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- Relationship because he felt like it. he was committed for the long
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- Like it. he was committed for the long term, and look what a fine
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- He was committed for the long term, and look what a fine wife he ended up with.
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- Term, and look what a fine wife he ended up with. >> [audience laughing]
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- Wife he ended up with. >> [audience laughing] >> [audience applauding]
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- >> [audience laughing] >> [audience applauding] >> joyce: i mean, honestly,
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- >> [audience applauding] >> joyce: i mean, honestly, i don't wanna make
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- >> joyce: i mean, honestly, i don't wanna make it sound like i'm bragging
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- I don't wanna make it sound like i'm bragging on me because i'm not,
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- It sound like i'm bragging on me because i'm not, but it's a pretty
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- On me because i'm not, but it's a pretty phenomenal story.
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- But it's a pretty phenomenal story. i mean, what if he would have
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- Phenomenal story. i mean, what if he would have thrown me in the ditch year
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- I mean, what if he would have thrown me in the ditch year two or three?
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- Thrown me in the ditch year two or three? so maybe,
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- Two or three? so maybe, there are some people
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- So maybe, there are some people you might need to get
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- There are some people you might need to get away from, but then maybe
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- You might need to get away from, but then maybe there's some people that
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- Away from, but then maybe there's some people that if you'll just stick it out
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- There's some people that if you'll just stick it out a little bit longer, if you'll
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- If you'll just stick it out a little bit longer, if you'll just walk in love with them
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- A little bit longer, if you'll just walk in love with them a little bit longer, if you'll
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- Just walk in love with them a little bit longer, if you'll just keep doing the right
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- A little bit longer, if you'll just keep doing the right thing for another year or two
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- Just keep doing the right thing for another year or two years, even though you're not
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- Thing for another year or two years, even though you're not being treated right, maybe god
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- Years, even though you're not being treated right, maybe god can use that love to soften
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- Being treated right, maybe god can use that love to soften a hard heart and change
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- Can use that love to soften a hard heart and change somebody.
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- A hard heart and change somebody. >> [audience applauding]
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- >> announcer: coming up,
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- >> announcer: coming up, a special message just for you.
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- >> announcer: we are created
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- >> announcer: we are created for community and acceptance.
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- For community and acceptance. it's the way god made us.
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- It's the way god made us. but what happens
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- But what happens when we are rejected?
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- >> joyce: well, rejection
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- >> joyce: well, rejection is definitely painful.
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- Is definitely painful. it's something we've all endured
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- It's something we've all endured in one way or another.
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- >> ginger: our experiences
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- >> ginger: our experiences may be different,
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- May be different, but the damage is very real.
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- But the damage is very real. whether it comes from
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- Whether it comes from a stranger, a friend,
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- A stranger, a friend, or someone we love,
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- Or someone we love, rejection leaves us feeling
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- Rejection leaves us feeling unwanted and wounded.
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- Unwanted and wounded. >> joyce: we both know how
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- >> joyce: we both know how devastating rejection can be.
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- Devastating rejection can be. the good news is healing
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- The good news is healing is possible.
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- Is possible. that's why i invited
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- That's why i invited ginger to write
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- Ginger to write a very important
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- A very important book with me,
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- Book with me, "healing the wounds
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- "healing the wounds of rejection."
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- Of rejection." i believe now is the time
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- I believe now is the time to overcome those
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- To overcome those wounds and embrace
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- Wounds and embrace our true identity in christ.
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- Our true identity in christ. >> announcer: we would
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- >> announcer: we would like to send you a copy
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- Like to send you a copy of "healing the wounds
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- Of "healing the wounds of rejection."
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- Of rejection." it's available to you
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- It's available to you right now for your
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- Right now for your gift of any amount.
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- And today,
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- And today, when you donate...
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- When you donate... or more,
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- Or more, you'll not only
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- You'll not only receive the "healing wounds
- 00:22:42.617 --> 00:22:43.785
- Receive the "healing wounds of rejection" book,
- 00:22:43.852 --> 00:22:44.686
- Of rejection" book, but also the beautiful,
- 00:22:44.753 --> 00:22:45.921
- But also the beautiful, guided journal with study
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- Guided journal with study questions and thoughtful
- 00:22:47.289 --> 00:22:48.190
- Questions and thoughtful prompts to help
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- Prompts to help facilitate your healing.
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- >> male: i still felt like
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- >> male: i still felt like an outsider wherever i went.
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- An outsider wherever i went. >> female 1: not feeling
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- >> female 1: not feeling like i belong anywhere.
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- Like i belong anywhere. >> female 2: it's satan's
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- >> female 2: it's satan's lies to say that
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- Lies to say that "you're not wanted."
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- "you're not wanted." >> male: and it was through
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- >> male: and it was through the word of god.
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- The word of god. >> female 1: the more
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- >> female 1: the more i read his word,
- 00:23:03.138 --> 00:23:04.172
- I read his word, the closer i became to him.
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- The closer i became to him. >> female 2: god says,
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- >> female 2: god says, "i am adopted."
- 00:23:06.842 --> 00:23:07.709
- "i am adopted." >> female 1: that does not
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- >> female 1: that does not mean that i have to continue
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- Mean that i have to continue living that way every day.
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- Living that way every day. >> female 2: "i'm chosen,
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- >> female 2: "i'm chosen, i'm accepted, i'm redeemed."
- 00:23:12.681 --> 00:23:14.583
- I'm accepted, i'm redeemed." >> female 1: and he is
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- >> female 1: and he is transforming me
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- Transforming me into his son,
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- Into his son, jesus' image, daily.
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- >> ginger: we want to share
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- >> ginger: we want to share truths from god's word
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- Truths from god's word that have helped us find
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- That have helped us find strength and wholeness.
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- Strength and wholeness. >> joyce: you can find freedom
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- >> joyce: you can find freedom from the pain and move
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- From the pain and move forward with confidence.
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- Forward with confidence. >> announcer: "healing
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- >> announcer: "healing the wounds of rejection"
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- The wounds of rejection" is available to you
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- Is available to you for any amount.
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- For any amount. learn how to handle rejection
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- Learn how to handle rejection differently than you ever
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- Differently than you ever have before and experience
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- Have before and experience the healing god
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- The healing god longs to bring you.
- 00:23:37.439 --> 00:23:38.473
- Longs to bring you. and remember,
- 00:23:38.540 --> 00:23:39.441
- And remember, you'll not only receive
- 00:23:39.508 --> 00:23:40.742
- You'll not only receive joyce and ginger's book
- 00:23:40.809 --> 00:23:41.576
- Joyce and ginger's book when you give,
- 00:23:41.643 --> 00:23:42.410
- When you give, but your gift allows
- 00:23:42.477 --> 00:23:43.778
- But your gift allows us to continue to share
- 00:23:43.845 --> 00:23:45.247
- Us to continue to share the love of christ
- 00:23:45.313 --> 00:23:46.381
- The love of christ around the world through
- 00:23:46.448 --> 00:23:47.582
- Around the world through our hand of hope outreaches.
- 00:23:47.649 --> 00:23:49.084
- Joyce and ginger's book,
- 00:23:50.118 --> 00:23:50.752
- Joyce and ginger's book, "healing the wounds
- 00:23:50.819 --> 00:23:51.953
- "healing the wounds of rejection," is available
- 00:23:52.020 --> 00:23:53.555
- Of rejection," is available to you for any amount.
- 00:23:53.622 --> 00:23:54.823
- To you for any amount. and remember,
- 00:23:54.890 --> 00:23:55.924
- And remember, when you donate...
- 00:23:55.991 --> 00:23:57.526
- When you donate... or more,
- 00:23:57.592 --> 00:23:58.126
- Or more, you'll not only receive
- 00:23:58.193 --> 00:23:59.261
- You'll not only receive the "healing wounds
- 00:23:59.327 --> 00:24:00.195
- The "healing wounds of rejection" book,
- 00:24:00.262 --> 00:24:01.162
- Of rejection" book, but also the guided journal
- 00:24:01.229 --> 00:24:02.564
- But also the guided journal to help your healing.
- 00:24:02.631 --> 00:24:03.732
- Give us a call at...
- 00:24:04.299 --> 00:24:07.269
- Give us a call at... or visit us online at:
- 00:24:07.335 --> 00:24:08.770
- Or visit us online at: joycemeyer.org.
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- >> announcer: it's your
- 00:24:11.706 --> 00:24:12.507
- >> announcer: it's your opportunity to unplug
- 00:24:12.574 --> 00:24:14.209
- Opportunity to unplug and discover what
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- And discover what it means to be fully his.
- 00:24:15.577 --> 00:24:18.780
- It means to be fully his. >> joyce: and we need to know
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- >> joyce: and we need to know who our real enemy is,
- 00:24:19.881 --> 00:24:21.182
- Who our real enemy is, and by the way,
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- And by the way, if you're really full-on
- 00:24:22.951 --> 00:24:24.619
- If you're really full-on walking with god,
- 00:24:24.686 --> 00:24:25.954
- Walking with god, you don't have to be afraid
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- You don't have to be afraid of the devil at all.
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- Of the devil at all. >> [audience cheering]
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- >> [audience cheering] >> announcer: come together
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- >> announcer: come together with thousands who are
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- With thousands who are ready to worship,
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- Ready to worship, learn, laugh,
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- Learn, laugh, and lean in.
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- And lean in. >> cece: god calls
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- >> cece: god calls us to holiness
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- Us to holiness because he loves us.
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- Because he loves us. y'all, it's beautiful.
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- Y'all, it's beautiful. >> announcer: and go home,
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- >> announcer: and go home, equipped for all
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- Equipped for all of life's battles.
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- Of life's battles. >> lysa: he's not trying
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- >> lysa: he's not trying to hide from us.
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- To hide from us. he's waiting to be seen by us.
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- He's waiting to be seen by us. >> announcer: join us for
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- >> announcer: join us for the 2025 love life
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- The 2025 love life women's conference.
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- Women's conference. with joyce meyer,
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- With joyce meyer, cece winans,
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- Cece winans, lysa terkeurst,
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- Lysa terkeurst, and pat barrett.
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- Register today
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- Register today for the 2025 love life
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- For the 2025 love life women's conference.
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- Women's conference. go to joycemeyer.org/wc25.
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- >> ginger: real life.
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- >> ginger: real life. real friends.
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- Real friends. no pretense.
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- No pretense. joyce meyer's
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- Joyce meyer's talk it out podcast.
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- Talk it out podcast. join joyce, erin cluley,
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- Join joyce, erin cluley, and me, ginger stache,
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- And me, ginger stache, along with some amazing friends,
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- Along with some amazing friends, as we honestly share
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- As we honestly share the hard stuff,
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- The hard stuff, laugh through those
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- Laugh through those unpredictable moments,
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- Unpredictable moments, and learn to apply what
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- And learn to apply what god says about it all.
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- God says about it all. watch or listen to new
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- Watch or listen to new episodes every other tuesday,
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- Episodes every other tuesday, wherever you get your podcast.
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- >> ginger: rejection hurts.
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- >> ginger: rejection hurts. it's unavoidable.
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- >> ginger: rejection hurts. it's unavoidable. you can't hide from it.
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- It's unavoidable. you can't hide from it. and it's one of the most
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- You can't hide from it. and it's one of the most dangerous things that the devil
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- And it's one of the most dangerous things that the devil loves to use to derail
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- Dangerous things that the devil loves to use to derail god's good plan for our lives,
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- But it does not have to.
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- But it does not have to. we have a heavenly father whose
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- But it does not have to. we have a heavenly father whose healing is greater than anything
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- We have a heavenly father whose healing is greater than anything that comes against us.
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- Healing is greater than anything that comes against us. as bad as it feels,
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- That comes against us. as bad as it feels, the pain of rejection
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- As bad as it feels, the pain of rejection does not define you.
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- The pain of rejection does not define you. it doesn't say who you are.
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- Does not define you. it doesn't say who you are. god's word says that
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- It doesn't say who you are. god's word says that "you are wonderfully made."
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- God's word says that "you are wonderfully made." his love never fails,
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- "you are wonderfully made." his love never fails, and he loves you.
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- His love never fails, and he loves you. take a moment to accept
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- And he loves you. take a moment to accept that truth: god loves you.
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- Take a moment to accept that truth: god loves you. even if we were rejected
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- That truth: god loves you. even if we were rejected by everyone we know,
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- Even if we were rejected by everyone we know, we are accepted by him.
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- By everyone we know, we are accepted by him. so, i pray with god's help,
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- We are accepted by him. so, i pray with god's help, you learn to love yourself
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- So, i pray with god's help, you learn to love yourself and see yourself the way
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- You learn to love yourself and see yourself the way that he sees you, because
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- And see yourself the way that he sees you, because what he sees is beautiful.
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- That he sees you, because what he sees is beautiful. no matter how you feel
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- What he sees is beautiful. no matter how you feel about yourself right now,
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- No matter how you feel about yourself right now, no matter what other people
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- About yourself right now, no matter what other people have done or have told you,
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- No matter what other people have done or have told you, i want you to tell yourself
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- Have done or have told you, i want you to tell yourself that you "are wonderfully made."
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- I want you to tell yourself that you "are wonderfully made." stand on the truth
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- That you "are wonderfully made." stand on the truth of god's word.
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- Stand on the truth of god's word. and the creator of the universe
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- Of god's word. and the creator of the universe does not make mistakes.
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- And the creator of the universe does not make mistakes. repeat that as many times
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- Does not make mistakes. repeat that as many times as you need to as you reach
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- Repeat that as many times as you need to as you reach out to god to heal your
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- As you need to as you reach out to god to heal your wounds of rejection.
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- >> [♪♪]
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- >> announcer: we hope you
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- >> announcer: we hope you enjoyed today's program.
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- Enjoyed today's program. we are so grateful
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- We are so grateful to our joyce meyer
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- To our joyce meyer ministries partners
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- Ministries partners who make this
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- Who make this and all we do possible,
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- And all we do possible, including sharing
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- Including sharing god's word
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- God's word and offering help
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- And offering help to people in need
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- To people in need all over the world.
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