Joyce Meyer - The Danger in the Painless Path (Part 1)

March 11, 2025 | S25:E19

Why go through life wounded on the inside? Find the courage within to face your pain, receive healing from God, and go on enjoying your life!

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Joyce Meyer: Enjoying Everyday Life | Joyce Meyer - The Danger in the Painless Path (Part 1) | March 11, 2025

>> joyce: i'm joyce meyer.
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>> joyce: i'm joyce meyer. i've seen god's power
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>> joyce: i'm joyce meyer. i've seen god's power transform my own life,
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I've seen god's power transform my own life, and he will do it for you.
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>> joyce: well,
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>> joyce: well, "battlefield of the mind"
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"battlefield of the mind" is my best-selling book with
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Is my best-selling book with more than 7 million copies
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More than 7 million copies sold and it's because the way
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Sold and it's because the way we think affects everything.
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We think affects everything. well, i'm dedicating an entire
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Well, i'm dedicating an entire conference to equip
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Conference to equip you to win your battles.
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Join me with john maxwell,
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Join me with john maxwell, pastor robert madu,
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Pastor robert madu, and brian and katie torwalt.
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And brian and katie torwalt. register today and learn
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Register today and learn how you can be victorious
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How you can be victorious through thinking
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Through thinking in line with god's word.
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In line with god's word. there's limited space,
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There's limited space, so don't delay.
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So don't delay. register now and change
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Register now and change the way you think.
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>> joyce: we are so work
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>> joyce: we are so work accomplishment oriented in our
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>> joyce: we are so work accomplishment oriented in our western society, that i think
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Accomplishment oriented in our western society, that i think sometimes we forget after god
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Western society, that i think sometimes we forget after god worked for six days creating
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Sometimes we forget after god worked for six days creating everything, he rested.
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Worked for six days creating everything, he rested. and so, adam's first full day
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Everything, he rested. and so, adam's first full day on the earth was a day of rest.
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And so, adam's first full day on the earth was a day of rest. and we just, we get
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On the earth was a day of rest. and we just, we get it upside down.
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And we just, we get it upside down. we glorify work over
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It upside down. we glorify work over everything else.
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We glorify work over everything else. and of course, we should work
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Everything else. and of course, we should work and not be lazy.
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And of course, we should work and not be lazy. but god wants you to enjoy
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And not be lazy. but god wants you to enjoy your life.
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But god wants you to enjoy your life. he wants you to enjoy yourself.
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Your life. he wants you to enjoy yourself. he wants you to enjoy your
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He wants you to enjoy yourself. he wants you to enjoy your family, your kids.
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He wants you to enjoy your family, your kids. don't just raise your kids.
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Family, your kids. don't just raise your kids. enjoy your kids.
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Don't just be married
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Don't just be married to somebody, enjoy them.
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Don't just be married to somebody, enjoy them. the bible says that a wife
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To somebody, enjoy them. the bible says that a wife should enjoy her husband.
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The bible says that a wife should enjoy her husband. amen?
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And you need to enjoy
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And you need to enjoy yourself.
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And you need to enjoy yourself. you have a home take time
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Yourself. you have a home take time to enjoy it.
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You have a home take time to enjoy it. don't just gripe 'cause you
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To enjoy it. don't just gripe 'cause you gotta clean it all the time.
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Don't just gripe 'cause you gotta clean it all the time. enjoy it.
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Gotta clean it all the time. enjoy it. like i said this morning, if you
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Enjoy it. like i said this morning, if you hate your job, then go get one
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Like i said this morning, if you hate your job, then go get one you can enjoy.
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Hate your job, then go get one you can enjoy. don't spend your life doing
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You can enjoy. don't spend your life doing stuff that you hate.
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Don't spend your life doing stuff that you hate. you've only got one life.
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Stuff that you hate. you've only got one life. how about making a decision
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You've only got one life. how about making a decision to live it?
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How many of you need to enjoy
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How many of you need to enjoy your life more than what you do?
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How many of you need to enjoy your life more than what you do? you know, we don't wanna just
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Your life more than what you do? you know, we don't wanna just exist and drift from day to day,
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You know, we don't wanna just exist and drift from day to day, and just be in this survival
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Exist and drift from day to day, and just be in this survival mode all the time.
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And just be in this survival mode all the time. you know, when i was growing up,
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Mode all the time. you know, when i was growing up, i just--i basically just tried
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You know, when i was growing up, i just--i basically just tried to survive every day.
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And i looked forward
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And i looked forward to the day when i was 18
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And i looked forward to the day when i was 18 and could leave home
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To the day when i was 18 and could leave home and hopefully have a happy life.
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And could leave home and hopefully have a happy life. but i thought when i walked away
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And hopefully have a happy life. but i thought when i walked away from the problems that i grew up
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But i thought when i walked away from the problems that i grew up in that i didn't have a problem
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From the problems that i grew up in that i didn't have a problem anymore, but i really just took
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In that i didn't have a problem anymore, but i really just took it with me.
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Anymore, but i really just took it with me. it was etched in my soul.
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It with me. it was etched in my soul. and it was adversely
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It was etched in my soul. and it was adversely affecting every single area
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And it was adversely affecting every single area of my life until i started,
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Affecting every single area of my life until i started, not "just going to church
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Of my life until i started, not "just going to church on sunday," but actually,
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Not "just going to church on sunday," but actually, being a "full-time"
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On sunday," but actually, being a "full-time" serious christian.
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Being a "full-time" serious christian. you know, there's a big
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Serious christian. you know, there's a big difference in just going
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You know, there's a big difference in just going to church on sunday and really
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Difference in just going to church on sunday and really being committed to learning
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To church on sunday and really being committed to learning how to live the life that
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Being committed to learning how to live the life that jesus died to give you.
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How to live the life that jesus died to give you. >> [audience applauding]
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Jesus died to give you. >> [audience applauding] >> joyce: i think somebody
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>> [audience applauding] >> joyce: i think somebody watching by television needs
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>> joyce: i think somebody watching by television needs to hear that.
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Watching by television needs to hear that. there's a big difference in just
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To hear that. there's a big difference in just going to church, putting in your
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There's a big difference in just going to church, putting in your time, getting your check mark
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Going to church, putting in your time, getting your check mark on your church calendar.
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Time, getting your check mark on your church calendar. there's a difference in that and
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On your church calendar. there's a difference in that and really being serious about
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There's a difference in that and really being serious about your walk with god.
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And being committed to really
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And being committed to really learning how to be christ-like,
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And being committed to really learning how to be christ-like, and to live the life that jesus
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Learning how to be christ-like, and to live the life that jesus really died to give you.
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And to live the life that jesus really died to give you. now, i want to talk to you for a
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Really died to give you. now, i want to talk to you for a minute about the painless path.
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Now, i want to talk to you for a minute about the painless path. you know, getting hurt, hurts.
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Minute about the painless path. you know, getting hurt, hurts. but oddly enough getting
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You know, getting hurt, hurts. but oddly enough getting well hurts too.
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But oddly enough getting well hurts too. you come to a point where it
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Well hurts too. you come to a point where it doesn't hurt anymore, but part
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You come to a point where it doesn't hurt anymore, but part of the reason why so many people
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Doesn't hurt anymore, but part of the reason why so many people stay broken is because there's
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Of the reason why so many people stay broken is because there's also pain in the healing
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Stay broken is because there's also pain in the healing process.
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Also pain in the healing process. you know, you can injure
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Yourself and the injury hurts,
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Yourself and the injury hurts, but while you're in the healing
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Yourself and the injury hurts, but while you're in the healing process, it still hurts.
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But while you're in the healing process, it still hurts. doesn't it?
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Process, it still hurts. doesn't it? so, i want you to understand
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Doesn't it? so, i want you to understand if you're one of these people
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So, i want you to understand if you're one of these people that decided with me this
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If you're one of these people that decided with me this morning that you're gonna--
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That decided with me this morning that you're gonna-- you're ready for a life upgrade.
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Morning that you're gonna-- you're ready for a life upgrade. you want to not just be here and
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You're ready for a life upgrade. you want to not just be here and breathe, but you want to have
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You want to not just be here and breathe, but you want to have the life, the best upgraded life
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Breathe, but you want to have the life, the best upgraded life that jesus died to give you, i'm
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The life, the best upgraded life that jesus died to give you, i'm just going to be honest with you
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That jesus died to give you, i'm just going to be honest with you and tell you that it's not just
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Just going to be honest with you and tell you that it's not just going to all be easy.
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For one thing, to get well,
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For one thing, to get well, you have to face a lot of things
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For one thing, to get well, you have to face a lot of things about where you're at.
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You have to face a lot of things about where you're at. jesus said, "if you continue in
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About where you're at. jesus said, "if you continue in my word, you will know the
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Jesus said, "if you continue in my word, you will know the truth, and the truth will make
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My word, you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free."
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Truth, and the truth will make you free." well, it's not the truth about
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You free." well, it's not the truth about somebody else that's gonna
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Well, it's not the truth about somebody else that's gonna make you free.
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>> [audience laughing]
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>> [audience laughing] >> joyce: it's the truth about
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>> [audience laughing] >> joyce: it's the truth about me, facing the truth about me.
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>> joyce: it's the truth about me, facing the truth about me. that i had problems.
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Me, facing the truth about me. that i had problems. that i was manipulative
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That i had problems. that i was manipulative and controlling.
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That i was manipulative and controlling. that i was insecure, no matter
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And controlling. that i was insecure, no matter the fact that i acted bold,
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That i was insecure, no matter the fact that i acted bold, really way down deep inside,
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The fact that i acted bold, really way down deep inside, i was insecure.
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Really way down deep inside, i was insecure. being honest with yourself,
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I was insecure. being honest with yourself, about yourself is the bravest
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Being honest with yourself, about yourself is the bravest thing that you can ever
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About yourself is the bravest thing that you can ever do in your life.
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Thing that you can ever do in your life. >> [audience applauding]
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>> joyce: you see, god knows
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>> joyce: you see, god knows you and he loves you anyway.
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>> joyce: you see, god knows you and he loves you anyway. and you need to learn how to
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You and he loves you anyway. and you need to learn how to know you, and love you anyway.
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And you need to learn how to know you, and love you anyway. i don't like everything i do,
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Know you, and love you anyway. i don't like everything i do, but i do like myself.
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I don't like everything i do, but i do like myself. i actually, think that we are
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But i do like myself. i actually, think that we are insulting god if we hate
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I actually, think that we are insulting god if we hate ourselves, and refuse to have a
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Insulting god if we hate ourselves, and refuse to have a good relationship with ourself
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Ourselves, and refuse to have a good relationship with ourself because we're not the epitome
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Good relationship with ourself because we're not the epitome of the perfection that we
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Because we're not the epitome of the perfection that we think that we should be.
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Of the perfection that we think that we should be. jesus didn't die for perfect
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Think that we should be. jesus didn't die for perfect people.
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Jesus didn't die for perfect people. he died for people that are
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People. he died for people that are imperfect and will continue
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He died for people that are imperfect and will continue to have some imperfections,
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Imperfect and will continue to have some imperfections, 'til he comes back to get us.
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The bible says,
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The bible says, "he didn't come for those that
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The bible says, "he didn't come for those that were well, but he came
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"he didn't come for those that were well, but he came for those that were sick."
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Were well, but he came for those that were sick." i qualify for help from god,
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For those that were sick." i qualify for help from god, and you do too.
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I qualify for help from god, and you do too. but in the natural--it's just
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The way we are, our flesh
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The way we are, our flesh is always gonna look
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The way we are, our flesh is always gonna look for a painless path.
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Is always gonna look for a painless path. and so, that's why i want to
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For a painless path. and so, that's why i want to just be clear with you that if
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And so, that's why i want to just be clear with you that if you really want to get well,
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Just be clear with you that if you really want to get well, there's going to be some
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You really want to get well, there's going to be some challenges to it.
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There's going to be some challenges to it. and it's not going to happen
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Challenges to it. and it's not going to happen super quick.
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And it's not going to happen super quick. it happens little by little.
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Super quick. it happens little by little. god changes you from glory
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It happens little by little. god changes you from glory to glory.
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God changes you from glory to glory. but the good news is if you're
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To glory. but the good news is if you're on your way to full recovery,
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But the good news is if you're on your way to full recovery, at least you're on your way
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On your way to full recovery, at least you're on your way somewhere.
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At least you're on your way somewhere. >> [audience applauding]
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Somewhere. >> [audience applauding] >> joyce: did you hear me?
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>> [audience applauding] >> joyce: did you hear me? and that's better than just
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>> joyce: did you hear me? and that's better than just being stuck nowhere?
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And that's better than just being stuck nowhere? >> [audience applauding]
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Being stuck nowhere? >> [audience applauding] >> joyce: there's two kinds of
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>> [audience applauding] >> joyce: there's two kinds of pain we can talk about today.
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>> joyce: there's two kinds of pain we can talk about today. the pain of change, or the pain
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Pain we can talk about today. the pain of change, or the pain of never changing.
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And you know what?
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And you know what? the thought of staying the same
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And you know what? the thought of staying the same is really scary to me.
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The thought of staying the same is really scary to me. i mean, it just makes me shiver
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Is really scary to me. i mean, it just makes me shiver to think that i could still be
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I mean, it just makes me shiver to think that i could still be the way that i used to be
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To think that i could still be the way that i used to be forty-two years ago.
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The way that i used to be forty-two years ago. now, there's been a lot of pain
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Forty-two years ago. now, there's been a lot of pain getting from there to here.
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Now, there's been a lot of pain getting from there to here. oh, but there's been more
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Getting from there to here. oh, but there's been more joy than pain.
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Oh, but there's been more joy than pain. >> [audience applauding]
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Joy than pain. >> [audience applauding] >> joyce: and i certainly,
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>> [audience applauding] >> joyce: and i certainly, am glad that god gave me
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>> joyce: and i certainly, am glad that god gave me the grace to not give up.
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Am glad that god gave me the grace to not give up. and you have to keep in mind
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The grace to not give up. and you have to keep in mind that every little bit of
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And you have to keep in mind that every little bit of progress you get, you can then
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That every little bit of progress you get, you can then share that progress with
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Progress you get, you can then share that progress with somebody else.
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Share that progress with somebody else. people need to see people
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Somebody else. people need to see people overcome.
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People need to see people overcome. >> [audience applauding]
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Overcome. >> [audience applauding] >> joyce: they need the courage
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>> [audience applauding] >> joyce: they need the courage to realize, "well, if you can do
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>> joyce: they need the courage to realize, "well, if you can do it, then maybe i can do it."
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To realize, "well, if you can do it, then maybe i can do it." there's a saying my husband's
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It, then maybe i can do it." there's a saying my husband's always had, "fast and fragile,
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There's a saying my husband's always had, "fast and fragile, slow and solid."
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Always had, "fast and fragile, slow and solid." what comes together fast can
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Slow and solid." what comes together fast can also come apart fast.
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What comes together fast can also come apart fast. but what is built slowly,
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Also come apart fast. but what is built slowly, can become solid.
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But what is built slowly, can become solid. i don't know if you've noticed
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Can become solid. i don't know if you've noticed it or not, but god's not
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I don't know if you've noticed it or not, but god's not in a hurry.
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It or not, but god's not in a hurry. has anybody realized that?
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In a hurry. has anybody realized that? god's not in hurry.
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Has anybody realized that? god's not in hurry. >> [audience applauding]
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God's not in hurry. >> [audience applauding] >> joyce: you know why?
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>> [audience applauding] >> joyce: you know why? because he's more interested
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>> joyce: you know why? because he's more interested in quality than quantity.
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Because he's more interested in quality than quantity. >> [audience applauding]
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In quality than quantity. >> [audience applauding] >> joyce: amen?
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>> [audience applauding] >> joyce: amen? don't get stuck in the trap
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>> joyce: amen? don't get stuck in the trap of just trying to see how much
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Don't get stuck in the trap of just trying to see how much of your bible you can read
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Of just trying to see how much of your bible you can read every day so you can feel
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Of your bible you can read every day so you can feel proud of yourself.
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God would rather that you stare
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God would rather that you stare at two verses for an hour and
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God would rather that you stare at two verses for an hour and get something out of it, than to
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At two verses for an hour and get something out of it, than to read seven chapters and not know
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Get something out of it, than to read seven chapters and not know what you read when you got done.
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Read seven chapters and not know what you read when you got done. of all the people we need
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What you read when you got done. of all the people we need to stop trying to impress,
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Of all the people we need to stop trying to impress, it's god.
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To stop trying to impress, it's god. did you hear me?
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It's god. did you hear me? >> audience: yes.
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Did you hear me? >> audience: yes. >> joyce: because he knows us.
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>> audience: yes. >> joyce: because he knows us. so, quality over quantity.
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>> joyce: because he knows us. so, quality over quantity. don't be in such a hurry.
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So, quality over quantity. don't be in such a hurry. we need to wise up, that--just,
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Don't be in such a hurry. we need to wise up, that--just, stop looking for everything
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We need to wise up, that--just, stop looking for everything to be easy.
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Stop looking for everything to be easy. we need to toughen up a little
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To be easy. we need to toughen up a little bit and be willing to go through
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We need to toughen up a little bit and be willing to go through whatever, we need to go through,
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Bit and be willing to go through whatever, we need to go through, to have what we say that
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Whatever, we need to go through, to have what we say that we want to have.
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To have what we say that we want to have. you know, a lot of people are
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We want to have. you know, a lot of people are jealous of successful people, or
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You know, a lot of people are jealous of successful people, or they're jealous of people that
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Jealous of successful people, or they're jealous of people that i don't know, stay in shape.
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They're jealous of people that i don't know, stay in shape. and you know, still look good in
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I don't know, stay in shape. and you know, still look good in their 40's or 50's, or whatever.
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And you know, still look good in their 40's or 50's, or whatever. or you're jealous of somebody's
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Their 40's or 50's, or whatever. or you're jealous of somebody's home, or jealous of somebody's
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Or you're jealous of somebody's home, or jealous of somebody's job.
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Home, or jealous of somebody's job. or maybe you're old enough to
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Job. or maybe you're old enough to retire, and you don't have
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Or maybe you're old enough to retire, and you don't have hardly anything, and you're
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Retire, and you don't have hardly anything, and you're jealous of people that you know,
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Hardly anything, and you're jealous of people that you know, that have got this nice income
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Jealous of people that you know, that have got this nice income level now at retirement.
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That have got this nice income level now at retirement. we need to stop being jealous of
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Level now at retirement. we need to stop being jealous of people that are blessed, if we
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We need to stop being jealous of people that are blessed, if we don't want to do what they did,
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People that are blessed, if we don't want to do what they did, to get what they've got.
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Don't want to do what they did, to get what they've got. >> [audience applauding]
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To get what they've got. >> [audience applauding] >> joyce: moment of truth.
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>> [audience applauding] >> joyce: moment of truth. i want to make sure you
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>> joyce: moment of truth. i want to make sure you understand this, 'cause i don't
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I want to make sure you understand this, 'cause i don't want to be telling you things
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Understand this, 'cause i don't want to be telling you things that aren't true.
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Want to be telling you things that aren't true. if your soul has been severely
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That aren't true. if your soul has been severely damaged by abuse, rejection,
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If your soul has been severely damaged by abuse, rejection, loss, abandonment, long-term
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Damaged by abuse, rejection, loss, abandonment, long-term illness, or anything else
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Loss, abandonment, long-term illness, or anything else the journey back to wholeness
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Illness, or anything else the journey back to wholeness won't be easy.
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The journey back to wholeness won't be easy. it's not just gonna be,
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Won't be easy. it's not just gonna be, "boy, i went to that conference,
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It's not just gonna be, "boy, i went to that conference, and listened to two sessions
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"boy, i went to that conference, and listened to two sessions on healing the soul, and i'm all
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And listened to two sessions on healing the soul, and i'm all put together now and everything
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On healing the soul, and i'm all put together now and everything is fine."
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No, it is easy for you to sit
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No, it is easy for you to sit out there and clap and cheer for
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No, it is easy for you to sit out there and clap and cheer for everything that i say, and you
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Out there and clap and cheer for everything that i say, and you can clap and cheer every time
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Everything that i say, and you can clap and cheer every time i tell you about every victory
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Can clap and cheer every time i tell you about every victory that i've gotten.
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I tell you about every victory that i've gotten. but, my victory won't give
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You victory.
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You victory. you have to still go through
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You victory. you have to still go through the same things.
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You have to still go through the same things. all anybody can do is light
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The same things. all anybody can do is light the way, but you still have
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All anybody can do is light the way, but you still have to walk the walk.
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Bible says in ephesians 2:10,
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Bible says in ephesians 2:10, that i've laid out--god said,
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Bible says in ephesians 2:10, that i've laid out--god said, "i have laid out a good path for
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That i've laid out--god said, "i have laid out a good path for you that you might walk in it."
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"i have laid out a good path for you that you might walk in it." jesus paid the price for us
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You that you might walk in it." jesus paid the price for us to have a good life, but we're
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Going to have to get up off our
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Going to have to get up off our little bottoms and do what
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Going to have to get up off our little bottoms and do what he tells us to do.
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Little bottoms and do what he tells us to do. and it's not all going
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He tells us to do. and it's not all going to be easy, but it is going
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And it's not all going to be easy, but it is going to be worth it.
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To be easy, but it is going to be worth it. being miserable all the time
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To be worth it. being miserable all the time isn't easy either.
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Being miserable all the time isn't easy either. amen?
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Isn't easy either. amen? i mean is anybody tired
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Amen? i mean is anybody tired of putting all your energy into
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I mean is anybody tired of putting all your energy into being miserable and being mad,
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Of putting all your energy into being miserable and being mad, and you'd just assume now, turn
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Being miserable and being mad, and you'd just assume now, turn that energy around to doing
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And you'd just assume now, turn that energy around to doing something that's going
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That energy around to doing something that's going somewhere.
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Something that's going somewhere. amen?
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>> [audience applauding]
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>> [audience applauding] >> joyce: alright.
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>> [audience applauding] >> joyce: alright. narrow path, broad path matthew
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>> joyce: alright. narrow path, broad path matthew 7:13, "enter through the narrow
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Narrow path, broad path matthew 7:13, "enter through the narrow gate.
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7:13, "enter through the narrow gate. for wide is the gate and broad
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Gate. for wide is the gate and broad and easy to travel."
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For wide is the gate and broad and easy to travel." see, i love that.
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And easy to travel." see, i love that. "easy to travel is the path that
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See, i love that. "easy to travel is the path that leads the way to destruction
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"easy to travel is the path that leads the way to destruction and eternal loss."
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Leads the way to destruction and eternal loss." look at that.
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And eternal loss." look at that. how good that is.
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Look at that. how good that is. "the broad path is easy
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How good that is. "the broad path is easy to travel but it leads to
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"the broad path is easy to travel but it leads to destruction and loss and there
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To travel but it leads to destruction and loss and there are many, many, many people
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Destruction and loss and there are many, many, many people who enter on that path."
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Are many, many, many people who enter on that path." if you get on the broad path,
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Who enter on that path." if you get on the broad path, you will never be lonely.
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If you get on the broad path, you will never be lonely. there will always be lots
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You will never be lonely. there will always be lots of people on that path.
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There will always be lots of people on that path. "but small is the gate and
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Of people on that path. "but small is the gate and narrow and difficult to travel
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"but small is the gate and narrow and difficult to travel is the path that leads the way
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Narrow and difficult to travel is the path that leads the way to [everlasting] life, and there
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Is the path that leads the way to [everlasting] life, and there are few who find it."
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To [everlasting] life, and there are few who find it." let me tell you something.
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Are few who find it." let me tell you something. pain almost always means
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Let me tell you something. pain almost always means progress, especially
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Pain almost always means progress, especially if it's the kind of pain that
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Progress, especially if it's the kind of pain that we're talking about today.
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If it's the kind of pain that we're talking about today. the pain of making right
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We're talking about today. the pain of making right choices.
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>> announcer: experiencing
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>> announcer: experiencing hurt in our lives
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Hurt in our lives is inevitable and that
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Is inevitable and that hurt affects our soul.
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Hurt affects our soul. with god,
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With god, suffering is optional,
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Suffering is optional, and healing is possible.
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And healing is possible. >> joyce: your soul is that
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>> joyce: your soul is that secret part of you,
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Secret part of you, that inner life that
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That inner life that only you and god
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Only you and god really know
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Really know anything about.
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Anything about. your soul
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Your soul is your mind,
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Is your mind, your will,
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Your will, and your emotions.
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And your emotions. it tells you
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It tells you what you think,
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What you think, what you want,
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What you want, and how you feel.
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And how you feel. >> ginger: god wants
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>> ginger: god wants to shine his light
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To shine his light into your darkness.
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Into your darkness. no matter what has
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No matter what has happened to you,
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Happened to you, he has a good
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He has a good plan for your life.
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Plan for your life. he will bind up
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He will bind up your wounds
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Your wounds and heal your soul.
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And heal your soul. for years,
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For years, joyce lived
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Joyce lived with the wounds
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With the wounds of abuse,
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Of abuse, but she learned
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But she learned that god could
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That god could heal her deepest
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Heal her deepest hurts and she shares
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Hurts and she shares her journey toward
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Her journey toward healing in her book,
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Healing in her book, "healing the soul
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"healing the soul of a woman."
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Of a woman." this book is powerful.
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Get this book
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Get this book and refuse to live
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And refuse to live in the shadow
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In the shadow of your past
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Of your past any longer.
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Any longer. >> announcer: it's time
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>> announcer: it's time to live a healed life
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To live a healed life and soak in god's love.
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And soak in god's love. healing is possible.
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Healing is possible. god promised
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God promised us a life of peace
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Us a life of peace and joy made
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And joy made right by him.
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Right by him. for your gift
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For your gift of any amount,
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Of any amount, we'll send you
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We'll send you a copy of "healing
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A copy of "healing the soul of a woman."
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>> [music]
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>> ginger: joyce, i had
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>> ginger: joyce, i had a situation, in my own life,
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A situation, in my own life, where i was shocked by
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Where i was shocked by something that someone did,
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Something that someone did, and i had instantly broken
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And i had instantly broken trust in someone that
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Trust in someone that i thought i was in good hands,
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So, today, in our candid
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So, today, in our candid conversation, i would love
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So, today, in our candid conversation, i would love to talk about broken trust,
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Conversation, i would love to talk about broken trust, and those things that
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To talk about broken trust, and those things that happen to all of us.
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And those things that happen to all of us. >> joyce: right.
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Happen to all of us. >> joyce: right. >> ginger: and yet, we don't
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>> joyce: right. >> ginger: and yet, we don't wanna stay in that place
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>> ginger: and yet, we don't wanna stay in that place of brokenness.
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Wanna stay in that place of brokenness. how do we move forward
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Of brokenness. how do we move forward and rebuild trust,
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How do we move forward and rebuild trust, maybe not in that person,
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And rebuild trust, maybe not in that person, but in our life in general,
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Maybe not in that person, but in our life in general, after something
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But in our life in general, after something like that happens?
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After something like that happens? >> joyce: well, i think,
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Like that happens? >> joyce: well, i think, one of the first things
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>> joyce: well, i think, one of the first things to realize is that god does
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One of the first things to realize is that god does not want you to go through
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To realize is that god does not want you to go through life not trusting anybody,
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Not want you to go through life not trusting anybody, but neither does he want you
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Life not trusting anybody, but neither does he want you to totally trust everybody
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But neither does he want you to totally trust everybody without any reservation.
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I love, in john chapter 2,
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I love, in john chapter 2, jesus said, he did not trust
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I love, in john chapter 2, jesus said, he did not trust himself to them, speaking
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Jesus said, he did not trust himself to them, speaking about his disciples, because
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Himself to them, speaking about his disciples, because he knew the nature of all men.
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About his disciples, because he knew the nature of all men. now, i find that so interesting.
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He knew the nature of all men. now, i find that so interesting. he didn't say he didn't
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Now, i find that so interesting. he didn't say he didn't trust them.
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He didn't say he didn't trust them. he said, he did not trust
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Trust them. he said, he did not trust himself to them.
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He said, he did not trust himself to them. so, in other words,
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I don't know--
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I don't know-- i don't know that it's wise
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I don't know-- i don't know that it's wise to trust anybody 100%.
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I don't know that it's wise to trust anybody 100%. >> ginger: because
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To trust anybody 100%. >> ginger: because we're all human.
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>> ginger: because we're all human. >> joyce: because we're
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We're all human. >> joyce: because we're human beings, and we're going
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>> joyce: because we're human beings, and we're going to let each other down,
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Human beings, and we're going to let each other down, we're going to disappoint
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To let each other down, we're going to disappoint one another.
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We're going to disappoint one another. and so, there is a trust that
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One another. and so, there is a trust that belongs only to god.
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And so, there is a trust that belongs only to god. and to be honest,
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Belongs only to god. and to be honest, if we start trying to give
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And to be honest, if we start trying to give that to somebody else,
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If we start trying to give that to somebody else, god may have to let their
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That to somebody else, god may have to let their weakness show up,
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God may have to let their weakness show up, just to teach you to keep
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Weakness show up, just to teach you to keep your trust in him.
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Just to teach you to keep your trust in him. also, one of the things
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Your trust in him. also, one of the things that proverbs talks
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Also, one of the things that proverbs talks about all the time,
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That proverbs talks about all the time, that we need to seek
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About all the time, that we need to seek and have is discernment.
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That we need to seek and have is discernment. and the discerning of spirits
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And have is discernment. and the discerning of spirits is actually one of the gifts
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And the discerning of spirits is actually one of the gifts of the spirit.
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Is actually one of the gifts of the spirit. and i've prayed a fair amount,
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Of the spirit. and i've prayed a fair amount, in my life, for discernment.
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And i've prayed a fair amount, in my life, for discernment. and i plan to continue
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In my life, for discernment. and i plan to continue to do so because you can't
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And i plan to continue to do so because you can't trust everybody, you know.
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To do so because you can't trust everybody, you know. there are people that just
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Trust everybody, you know. there are people that just aren't good people and even
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There are people that just aren't good people and even though they may look like
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Aren't good people and even though they may look like it on the outside, or things
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Though they may look like it on the outside, or things may go good in the beginning--
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It on the outside, or things may go good in the beginning-- there's just that fine
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May go good in the beginning-- there's just that fine balance between,
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There's just that fine balance between, you can't trust everybody,
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Balance between, you can't trust everybody, but you don't want to go around
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You can't trust everybody, but you don't want to go around not trusting anybody.
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But you don't want to go around not trusting anybody. >> ginger: right.
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Not trusting anybody. >> ginger: right. >> joyce: and so, that's why
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>> ginger: right. >> joyce: and so, that's why we need discernment to know.
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You know, sometimes
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You know, sometimes i'll just like, i'll get this--
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You know, sometimes i'll just like, i'll get this-- maybe, i meet somebody new,
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I'll just like, i'll get this-- maybe, i meet somebody new, and i like 'em,
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Maybe, i meet somebody new, and i like 'em, and we're becoming friends.
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And i like 'em, and we're becoming friends. and you know,
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And we're becoming friends. and you know, then i might just get
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And you know, then i might just get this little discernment,
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Then i might just get this little discernment, it kind of comes like
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This little discernment, it kind of comes like a little thing in your heart
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It kind of comes like a little thing in your heart that you're not quite
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A little thing in your heart that you're not quite sure what it is that,
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That you're not quite sure what it is that, you know, "yeah, you better--
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Sure what it is that, you know, "yeah, you better-- you better stop telling
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You know, "yeah, you better-- you better stop telling them so many things
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You better stop telling them so many things about your personal life."
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Them so many things about your personal life." you know, or mmm--like,
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About your personal life." you know, or mmm--like, i've had my kids tell me
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Sometimes, "you know,
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Sometimes, "you know, you really shouldn't talk about
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Sometimes, "you know, you really shouldn't talk about that in front of that person."
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You really shouldn't talk about that in front of that person." >> ginger: you learn to listen
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That in front of that person." >> ginger: you learn to listen to those little checks.
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>> ginger: you learn to listen to those little checks. >> joyce: and so,
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To those little checks. >> joyce: and so, you learn to listen
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>> joyce: and so, you learn to listen to those little checks.
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You learn to listen to those little checks. and the thing is,
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To those little checks. and the thing is, is i remember--
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And the thing is, is i remember-- from the way i grew up,
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Is i remember-- from the way i grew up, of course, i didn't
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From the way i grew up, of course, i didn't trust anybody,
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Of course, i didn't trust anybody, especially, not men.
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Trust anybody, especially, not men. and so, i had a very difficult
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Especially, not men. and so, i had a very difficult time trusting dave because
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And so, i had a very difficult time trusting dave because i just didn't really believe
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Time trusting dave because i just didn't really believe that anybody was gonna
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I just didn't really believe that anybody was gonna have my best interest
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That anybody was gonna have my best interest in heart--in mind.
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Have my best interest in heart--in mind. so, when you get married,
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In heart--in mind. so, when you get married, and you're supposed
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So, when you get married, and you're supposed to be submissive to this
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And you're supposed to be submissive to this man that you've married and,
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To be submissive to this man that you've married and, you know, you have a difference
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Man that you've married and, you know, you have a difference of opinion about a decision,
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You know, you have a difference of opinion about a decision, and it comes down
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Of opinion about a decision, and it comes down to a decision's gotta be made,
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And it comes down to a decision's gotta be made, you need to submit to the man.
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To a decision's gotta be made, you need to submit to the man. i remember saying to god,
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You need to submit to the man. i remember saying to god, "how can you expect
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I remember saying to god, "how can you expect me to trust him,
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"how can you expect me to trust him, after what happened to me?"
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Me to trust him, after what happened to me?" and i'll never forget it.
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After what happened to me?" and i'll never forget it. the lord said, "i'm not asking
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And i'll never forget it. the lord said, "i'm not asking you to trust him.
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The lord said, "i'm not asking you to trust him. i'm asking you to trust me,
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You to trust him. i'm asking you to trust me, with him."
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I'm asking you to trust me, with him." >> ginger: that's huge.
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With him." >> ginger: that's huge. >> joyce: yeah, so, we always
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>> ginger: that's huge. >> joyce: yeah, so, we always have to go back to god.
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>> joyce: yeah, so, we always have to go back to god. but be wise, and--
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Have to go back to god. but be wise, and-- you just--it's--
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But be wise, and-- you just--it's-- you're setting yourself up
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You just--it's-- you're setting yourself up for just pain and failure,
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You're setting yourself up for just pain and failure, if you get it in your head that,
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For just pain and failure, if you get it in your head that, "this person's never
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If you get it in your head that, "this person's never gonna hurt me."
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"this person's never gonna hurt me." >> ginger: right, yeah.
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Gonna hurt me." >> ginger: right, yeah. no matter who that person is.
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>> ginger: right, yeah. no matter who that person is. and in the situation that
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No matter who that person is. and in the situation that i was talking about,
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And in the situation that i was talking about, as we started this conversation,
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I was talking about, as we started this conversation, it was one where, it was
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As we started this conversation, it was one where, it was very clear, this was not
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It was one where, it was very clear, this was not a person that i should
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Very clear, this was not a person that i should continue a relationship with.
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A person that i should continue a relationship with. in other situations,
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Continue a relationship with. in other situations, it is someone close to us that
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In other situations, it is someone close to us that we need to heal that wound
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It is someone close to us that we need to heal that wound and continue a relationship.
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We need to heal that wound and continue a relationship. so, i think what you're saying
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And continue a relationship. so, i think what you're saying is so important that god is not
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So, i think what you're saying is so important that god is not asking us to always have perfect
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Is so important that god is not asking us to always have perfect trust in everybody else,
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Asking us to always have perfect trust in everybody else, but we can have that trust
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Trust in everybody else, but we can have that trust in god alone.
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But we can have that trust in god alone. >> joyce: right.
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In god alone. >> joyce: right. we had--over the course,
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>> joyce: right. we had--over the course, of the years that we've had
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We had--over the course, of the years that we've had the ministry, we've had three
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Of the years that we've had the ministry, we've had three different employees steal
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The ministry, we've had three different employees steal money from the ministry.
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Different employees steal money from the ministry. they happened
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Money from the ministry. they happened to be in a position where
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They happened to be in a position where they had access to it.
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To be in a position where they had access to it. and they were like,
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They had access to it. and they were like, in all three cases, it was like,
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And they were like, in all three cases, it was like, "you have got to be kidding."
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In all three cases, it was like, "you have got to be kidding." >> ginger: yeah, just the shock,
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"you have got to be kidding." >> ginger: yeah, just the shock, i'm sure.
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>> ginger: yeah, just the shock, i'm sure. >> joyce: i mean, it was like
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I'm sure. >> joyce: i mean, it was like the last person on earth
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>> joyce: i mean, it was like the last person on earth that you ever thought would
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The last person on earth that you ever thought would do something like that.
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That you ever thought would do something like that. and so, the first thought--
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Do something like that. and so, the first thought-- the first thing satan always
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And so, the first thought-- the first thing satan always puts in your head is,
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The first thing satan always puts in your head is, "you just can't trust anybody.
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Puts in your head is, "you just can't trust anybody. you really just can't
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"you just can't trust anybody. you really just can't trust anybody."
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You really just can't trust anybody." >> ginger: then, you build
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Trust anybody." >> ginger: then, you build up walls, and--
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>> ginger: then, you build up walls, and-- >> joyce: but as soon as that
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Up walls, and-- >> joyce: but as soon as that happens, now, i say, "no.
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>> joyce: but as soon as that happens, now, i say, "no. just because one person's
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Happens, now, i say, "no. just because one person's bad, that doesn't mean
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Just because one person's bad, that doesn't mean everybody's bad."
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Bad, that doesn't mean everybody's bad." and i refuse to live
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Everybody's bad." and i refuse to live my life being suspicious.
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And i refuse to live my life being suspicious. i wanna be wise,
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My life being suspicious. i wanna be wise, but i refuse to be suspicious
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I wanna be wise, but i refuse to be suspicious of everybody and expect
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But i refuse to be suspicious of everybody and expect them to do the wrong thing.
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Of everybody and expect them to do the wrong thing. so, it's really kind of,
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Them to do the wrong thing. so, it's really kind of, you gotta walk a little fine
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So, it's really kind of, you gotta walk a little fine line with what we're
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You gotta walk a little fine line with what we're talking about today.
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Line with what we're talking about today. and that's why i think that
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Talking about today. and that's why i think that discernment is so important.
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And that's why i think that discernment is so important. you--tell me what you think
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Discernment is so important. you--tell me what you think discernment is.
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>> ginger: discernment is,
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>> ginger: discernment is, i think, a gift.
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>> ginger: discernment is, i think, a gift. it's something that
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I think, a gift. it's something that some people have more
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It's something that some people have more natural--naturally than others,
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Some people have more natural--naturally than others, but it is something that
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Natural--naturally than others, but it is something that the holy spirit can equip
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But it is something that the holy spirit can equip all of us with, and it is that
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The holy spirit can equip all of us with, and it is that ability to sense almost
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All of us with, and it is that ability to sense almost between a and b.
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Ability to sense almost between a and b. it's like discerning,
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Between a and b. it's like discerning, "do i go this way or this way?"
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It's like discerning, "do i go this way or this way?" and some of these things
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"do i go this way or this way?" and some of these things god will reroute us and keep
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And some of these things god will reroute us and keep us going where we want.
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God will reroute us and keep us going where we want. but sometimes,
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Us going where we want. but sometimes, it is just a knowing of,
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But sometimes, it is just a knowing of, "this is not the right thing,"
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It is just a knowing of, "this is not the right thing," "this is not the right person,"
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"this is not the right thing," "this is not the right person," "this is not the right time,"
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"this is not the right person," "this is not the right time," whatever it maybe.
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"this is not the right time," whatever it maybe. >> joyce: it's kinda like
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Whatever it maybe. >> joyce: it's kinda like driving down the road
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>> joyce: it's kinda like driving down the road and the yellow light comes on.
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Driving down the road and the yellow light comes on. >> ginger: yes.
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And the yellow light comes on. >> ginger: yes. that's a great way
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>> ginger: yes. that's a great way to explain it.
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That's a great way to explain it. >> joyce: you know, a lot
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To explain it. >> joyce: you know, a lot of people will stop then,
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>> joyce: you know, a lot of people will stop then, which is what you're supposed
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Of people will stop then, which is what you're supposed to start doing, but a lot
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Which is what you're supposed to start doing, but a lot of people will try to...
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To start doing, but a lot of people will try to... >> ginger: hit the gas.
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Of people will try to... >> ginger: hit the gas. >> joyce: beat that
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>> ginger: hit the gas. >> joyce: beat that yellow light, get through
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>> joyce: beat that yellow light, get through before the red light comes.
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Yellow light, get through before the red light comes. and i wonder how many people
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Before the red light comes. and i wonder how many people have had wrecks, you know,
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And i wonder how many people have had wrecks, you know, because they didn't pay
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Have had wrecks, you know, because they didn't pay attention to the caution light.
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Because they didn't pay attention to the caution light. >> ginger: that's a great
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Attention to the caution light. >> ginger: that's a great description.
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>> ginger: that's a great description. and i've learned to really
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Description. and i've learned to really listen to that discernment
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And i've learned to really listen to that discernment in my life, because i can be
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Listen to that discernment in my life, because i can be very, very trusting naturally.
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In my life, because i can be very, very trusting naturally. and so, when i get that feeling,
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Very, very trusting naturally. and so, when i get that feeling, i really have to listen to that
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And so, when i get that feeling, i really have to listen to that because there's a reason
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I really have to listen to that because there's a reason that we have that.
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Because there's a reason that we have that. >> joyce: well, the thing
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That we have that. >> joyce: well, the thing that gets me in trouble,
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>> joyce: well, the thing that gets me in trouble, sometimes, is part of the gift
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That gets me in trouble, sometimes, is part of the gift that god has given me,
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Sometimes, is part of the gift that god has given me, is openness.
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That god has given me, is openness. you know, i mean, i just--
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Is openness. you know, i mean, i just-- i tell everything about myself.
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You know, i mean, i just-- i tell everything about myself. i tell everything about dave.
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I tell everything about myself. i tell everything about dave. dave always tells people,
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I tell everything about dave. dave always tells people, "if you're gonna
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Dave always tells people, "if you're gonna be joyce's friend, you better
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"if you're gonna be joyce's friend, you better get ready to be on tv because
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Be joyce's friend, you better get ready to be on tv because she's gonna talk about you."
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Get ready to be on tv because she's gonna talk about you." now, you know,
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She's gonna talk about you." now, you know, i won't if somebody
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Now, you know, i won't if somebody doesn't want me to.
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I won't if somebody doesn't want me to. i mean, i don't behave stupidly,
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Doesn't want me to. i mean, i don't behave stupidly, and just tell things that
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I mean, i don't behave stupidly, and just tell things that i shouldn't tell.
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And just tell things that i shouldn't tell. but i am very open.
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I shouldn't tell. but i am very open. i mean, i think, you can
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But i am very open. i mean, i think, you can probably say that one thing
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I mean, i think, you can probably say that one thing i'm not is phony.
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Probably say that one thing i'm not is phony. i mean...
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I'm not is phony. i mean... >> ginger: definitely.
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I mean... >> ginger: definitely. >> joyce: i pretty much tell
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>> ginger: definitely. >> joyce: i pretty much tell it the way it is.
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>> joyce: i pretty much tell it the way it is. and so, because i'm so open,
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It the way it is. and so, because i'm so open, sometimes, i will tell things
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And so, because i'm so open, sometimes, i will tell things around people about my own life
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Sometimes, i will tell things around people about my own life that maybe, it's not the wisest
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Around people about my own life that maybe, it's not the wisest person to be talking about,
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That maybe, it's not the wisest person to be talking about, in front of, like that.
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Person to be talking about, in front of, like that. so, i'm learning, and i've had
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In front of, like that. so, i'm learning, and i've had a couple of hard lessons,
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So, i'm learning, and i've had a couple of hard lessons, even recently, that there
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A couple of hard lessons, even recently, that there are a few things that you
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Even recently, that there are a few things that you need to just keep to yourself.
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Are a few things that you need to just keep to yourself. but i think that discernment--
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Need to just keep to yourself. but i think that discernment-- i think it just means,
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But i think that discernment-- i think it just means, be careful.
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I think it just means, be careful. and i wouldn't--
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Be careful. and i wouldn't-- i don't think it's fair
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And i wouldn't-- i don't think it's fair to anybody if you get
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I don't think it's fair to anybody if you get what you think is a caution,
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To anybody if you get what you think is a caution, i don't think it's fair to write
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What you think is a caution, i don't think it's fair to write them off just because
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I don't think it's fair to write them off just because of that feeling.
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Them off just because of that feeling. i think you need to wait
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Of that feeling. i think you need to wait a little bit.
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I think you need to wait a little bit. to me, it's saying,
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A little bit. to me, it's saying, "wait, watch, pray."
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To me, it's saying, "wait, watch, pray." you know, maybe there's
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"wait, watch, pray." you know, maybe there's something going on in that
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You know, maybe there's something going on in that person's life that you need
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Something going on in that person's life that you need to pray about, that could keep
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Person's life that you need to pray about, that could keep them from doing something
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To pray about, that could keep them from doing something more serious later on.
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Them from doing something more serious later on. and i think a lot of times,
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More serious later on. and i think a lot of times, too, we have different
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And i think a lot of times, too, we have different kinds of relationships.
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Too, we have different kinds of relationships. and some relationships
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Kinds of relationships. and some relationships are deeper than others.
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And some relationships are deeper than others. sometimes, you can--i mean,
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Are deeper than others. sometimes, you can--i mean, i know a couple of people
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Sometimes, you can--i mean, i know a couple of people that i honestly believe
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I know a couple of people that i honestly believe i could tell them anything,
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That i honestly believe i could tell them anything, and they would never repeat it,
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I could tell them anything, and they would never repeat it, and i would not even have
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And they would never repeat it, and i would not even have to say to them, "be sure
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And i would not even have to say to them, "be sure you don't tell anybody that."
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To say to them, "be sure you don't tell anybody that." but then, there's other people
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You don't tell anybody that." but then, there's other people that i feel like, if i tell them
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But then, there's other people that i feel like, if i tell them something private,
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That i feel like, if i tell them something private, i need to say, "i really don't
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Something private, i need to say, "i really don't want you to tell anybody that."
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I need to say, "i really don't want you to tell anybody that." and then, there's other
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Want you to tell anybody that." and then, there's other people that i pretty much
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And then, there's other people that i pretty much know, no matter what i say,
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People that i pretty much know, no matter what i say, they're going to talk
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Know, no matter what i say, they're going to talk and tell people.
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They're going to talk and tell people. so, you have to kind of find
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And tell people. so, you have to kind of find out where people are at.
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So, you have to kind of find out where people are at. and sometimes, that caution
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Out where people are at. and sometimes, that caution that you get is just a,
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And sometimes, that caution that you get is just a, "hang on, and know
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That you get is just a, "hang on, and know a little bit more about what
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"hang on, and know a little bit more about what you're dealing with here."
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And i just--but i really--
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And i just--but i really-- i really hope and pray
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And i just--but i really-- i really hope and pray that people won't spend
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I really hope and pray that people won't spend their whole life cynical,
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That people won't spend their whole life cynical, distrusting people.
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Their whole life cynical, distrusting people. i don't think that's the way
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Distrusting people. i don't think that's the way god wants us to live.
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I don't think that's the way god wants us to live. >> ginger: yeah, and it's
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God wants us to live. >> ginger: yeah, and it's definitely not a recipe
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>> ginger: yeah, and it's definitely not a recipe for peace in our lives.
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Definitely not a recipe for peace in our lives. the type of joy that god
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For peace in our lives. the type of joy that god wants us to have.
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The type of joy that god wants us to have. >> joyce: and if trust has
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Wants us to have. >> joyce: and if trust has been broken, you know,
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>> joyce: and if trust has been broken, you know, you've had a bad example,
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Been broken, you know, you've had a bad example, you've had a bad situation,
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You've had a bad example, you've had a bad situation, especially if it was a long-term
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You've had a bad situation, especially if it was a long-term thing or, you know,
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Especially if it was a long-term thing or, you know, say a husband cheats on a wife,
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Thing or, you know, say a husband cheats on a wife, or something like that, it takes
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Say a husband cheats on a wife, or something like that, it takes time for that to be restored.
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Or something like that, it takes time for that to be restored. and let's just put it like this.
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Time for that to be restored. and let's just put it like this. take baby steps back in,
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And let's just put it like this. take baby steps back in, but make a decision that you're
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Take baby steps back in, but make a decision that you're not going to live your life--
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But make a decision that you're not going to live your life-- and i wanna say this firmly.
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Not going to live your life-- and i wanna say this firmly. do not live your life suspicious
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And i wanna say this firmly. do not live your life suspicious of everybody out there,
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Do not live your life suspicious of everybody out there, but pray for discernment.
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Of everybody out there, but pray for discernment. i mean, proverbs says
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But pray for discernment. i mean, proverbs says over, and over, and over,
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I mean, proverbs says over, and over, and over, that discernment
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Over, and over, and over, that discernment is so important.
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That discernment is so important. >> ginger: really helpful.
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Is so important. >> ginger: really helpful. thank you very much.
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>> ginger: really helpful. thank you very much. >> joyce: you're welcome.
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Thank you very much. >> joyce: you're welcome. >> ginger: good talk.
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>> joyce: you're welcome. >> ginger: good talk. >> joyce: thanks.
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>> announcer: we hope you enjoyed today's program.
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Joyce Meyer - The Danger in the Painless Path (Part 1)

March 11, 2025 | S25:E19

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