Joyce Meyer - Healing The Wounds of Rejection (Part 2)

May 20, 2026 | 27:29

What rejection have you faced in your life that still hurts? Discover how to heal and find your worth in God’s love through honest, hope-filled truths shared by Joyce, Ginger, and Erin.

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Joyce Meyer: Enjoying Everyday Life | Joyce Meyer - Healing The Wounds of Rejection (Part 2) | May 20, 2026

>> joyce: how many lies do
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>> joyce: how many lies do people believe about themselves?
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>> joyce: how many lies do people believe about themselves? and sometimes you just need
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People believe about themselves? and sometimes you just need to sit down and have a meeting
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And sometimes you just need to sit down and have a meeting with yourself and be reasonable.
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To sit down and have a meeting with yourself and be reasonable. >> erin: yeah.
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With yourself and be reasonable. >> erin: yeah. >> joyce: you know,
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>> erin: yeah. >> joyce: you know, "am i really--
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>> joyce: you know, "am i really-- am i really no good?"
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>> joyce: i do what
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>> joyce: i do what i do because i've seen god's
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>> joyce: i do what i do because i've seen god's power transform my own life,
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I do because i've seen god's power transform my own life, and he will do it for you.
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Power transform my own life, and he will do it for you. the key to everything
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And he will do it for you. the key to everything is found in god's word.
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The key to everything is found in god's word. i'm joyce meyer,
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Is found in god's word. i'm joyce meyer, and i believe that god can heal
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I'm joyce meyer, and i believe that god can heal you everywhere you hurt.
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>> ginger: welcome
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>> ginger: welcome to "enjoying everyday life."
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>> ginger: welcome to "enjoying everyday life." if i just say the word
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To "enjoying everyday life." if i just say the word "rejection," it is likely
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If i just say the word "rejection," it is likely that a painful situation
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"rejection," it is likely that a painful situation or a person pops into your mind.
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That a painful situation or a person pops into your mind. rejection affects all of us.
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It's unavoidable and we will
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It's unavoidable and we will all experience it and probably
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It's unavoidable and we will all experience it and probably more than once.
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All experience it and probably more than once. and rejection hurts.
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More than once. and rejection hurts. so how can we work
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And rejection hurts. so how can we work through the pain?
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So how can we work through the pain? how are the wounds
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Through the pain? how are the wounds of rejection impacting your
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How are the wounds of rejection impacting your life you may not even realize?
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Of rejection impacting your life you may not even realize? well, today, joyce and i share
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Life you may not even realize? well, today, joyce and i share our own personal experiences,
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Well, today, joyce and i share our own personal experiences, and we offer hope
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Our own personal experiences, and we offer hope for the healing that god
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And we offer hope for the healing that god has in store for you.
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>> joyce: well, i grew up
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>> joyce: well, i grew up in an abusive home where
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>> joyce: well, i grew up in an abusive home where there was violence,
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In an abusive home where there was violence, there was anger, strife,
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There was violence, there was anger, strife, but my father was also a sexual
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There was anger, strife, but my father was also a sexual predator and he sexually abused
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Me for many, many years,
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Me for many, many years, somewhere between 12 and 15.
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Me for many, many years, somewhere between 12 and 15. i don't remember, exactly.
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Somewhere between 12 and 15. i don't remember, exactly. i just know that
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I don't remember, exactly. i just know that that's all i remember.
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I just know that that's all i remember. i don't remember a time
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That's all i remember. i don't remember a time when it wasn't that way.
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I don't remember a time when it wasn't that way. and i grew up rooted in fear.
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When it wasn't that way. and i grew up rooted in fear. he controlled me with fear,
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And i grew up rooted in fear. he controlled me with fear, and he was just mean,
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He controlled me with fear, and he was just mean, and i was always afraid
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And he was just mean, and i was always afraid of making him mad.
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And i was always afraid of making him mad. and so, when i left home at 18,
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Of making him mad. and so, when i left home at 18, i reached out to several people,
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And so, when i left home at 18, i reached out to several people, and it was obvious nobody
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I reached out to several people, and it was obvious nobody was going to help me.
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And it was obvious nobody was going to help me. and i didn't realize the way
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Was going to help me. and i didn't realize the way i felt was rejection.
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I just knew that i was insecure.
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I just knew that i was insecure. i isolated myself.
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I just knew that i was insecure. i isolated myself. i didn't try to make friends
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I isolated myself. i didn't try to make friends with other people because
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I didn't try to make friends with other people because i really never could
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With other people because i really never could bring any of 'em home,
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I really never could bring any of 'em home, especially not a female friend.
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Bring any of 'em home, especially not a female friend. and my dad wouldn't let
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Especially not a female friend. and my dad wouldn't let me have any male friends.
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And my dad wouldn't let me have any male friends. and--but as god
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Me have any male friends. and--but as god began to heal me,
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And--but as god began to heal me, he taught me that i had a root
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Began to heal me, he taught me that i had a root of rejection in my life.
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He taught me that i had a root of rejection in my life. and so, when you--
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Of rejection in my life. and so, when you-- being brought up in it,
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And so, when you-- being brought up in it, i was rooted in that.
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And so, i saw everything
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And so, i saw everything through that color.
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And so, i saw everything through that color. i would imagine that people
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Through that color. i would imagine that people were rejecting me when
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I would imagine that people were rejecting me when maybe they didn't even see me.
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Were rejecting me when maybe they didn't even see me. or i would--
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Maybe they didn't even see me. or i would-- one thing i found out with dave,
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Or i would-- one thing i found out with dave, for example, that relates,
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One thing i found out with dave, for example, that relates, we were on the golf course one
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For example, that relates, we were on the golf course one day and he was playing bad golf.
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We were on the golf course one day and he was playing bad golf. and i--
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Day and he was playing bad golf. and i-- i know it's a surprise,
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And i-- i know it's a surprise, but he was playing bad golf.
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I know it's a surprise, but he was playing bad golf. and so, i'd put my hand on his
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But he was playing bad golf. and so, i'd put my hand on his back and was patting him
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And so, i'd put my hand on his back and was patting him and, you know,
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Back and was patting him and, you know, he took my hand
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And, you know, he took my hand and pushed it away.
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He took my hand and pushed it away. he said, "don't do that."
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And pushed it away. he said, "don't do that." oh man,
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He said, "don't do that." oh man, i got my feelings so hurt,
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Oh man, i got my feelings so hurt, you know.
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I got my feelings so hurt, you know. by then i was starting
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You know. by then i was starting to hear from god.
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By then i was starting to hear from god. and god just whispered
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To hear from god. and god just whispered in my heart.
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And god just whispered in my heart. he said, "you're trying to give
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In my heart. he said, "you're trying to give him what you would need,
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He said, "you're trying to give him what you would need, and he doesn't need that."
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Him what you would need, and he doesn't need that." but i took it as rejection
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And he doesn't need that." but i took it as rejection when i really shouldn't have
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But i took it as rejection when i really shouldn't have been trying to give it to him
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When i really shouldn't have been trying to give it to him to start with.
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Been trying to give it to him to start with. i don't think any man probably
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To start with. i don't think any man probably wants to be babied when
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I don't think any man probably wants to be babied when he's not doing good.
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Wants to be babied when he's not doing good. and when dave and i would
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He's not doing good. and when dave and i would be having arguments,
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And when dave and i would be having arguments, if he didn't agree with me,
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Be having arguments, if he didn't agree with me, i felt rejected.
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If he didn't agree with me, i felt rejected. and so, he felt like that
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I felt rejected. and so, he felt like that he couldn't talk to me because
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And so, he felt like that he couldn't talk to me because if he didn't agree with me,
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He couldn't talk to me because if he didn't agree with me, i was gonna get upset.
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If he didn't agree with me, i was gonna get upset. and i didn't realize that
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I was gonna get upset. and i didn't realize that he could reject my opinion
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And i didn't realize that he could reject my opinion and that didn't mean
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He could reject my opinion and that didn't mean he was rejecting me.
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And that didn't mean he was rejecting me. >> erin: that's huge,
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He was rejecting me. >> erin: that's huge, that's a huge change
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>> erin: that's huge, that's a huge change of your perspective.
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That's a huge change of your perspective. ginger, what about you?
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Of your perspective. ginger, what about you? >> ginger: with mine--
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Ginger, what about you? >> ginger: with mine-- and i think it's so important
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>> ginger: with mine-- and i think it's so important for both of us to share
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And i think it's so important for both of us to share these stories because
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For both of us to share these stories because they are so very different.
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These stories because they are so very different. but it goes into how we all will
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They are so very different. but it goes into how we all will face rejection in our life.
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But it goes into how we all will face rejection in our life. so, we have to know
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Face rejection in our life. so, we have to know how to deal with it.
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So, we have to know how to deal with it. i was in a very stable home,
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How to deal with it. i was in a very stable home, a christian family.
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I was in a very stable home, a christian family. i was loved.
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A christian family. i was loved. i was secure in christ.
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I was loved. i was secure in christ. i loved the lord.
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I was secure in christ. i loved the lord. met my husband.
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I loved the lord. met my husband. we were high school--or not
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Met my husband. we were high school--or not high school,
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We were high school--or not high school, college sweethearts.
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High school, college sweethearts. dated four years through
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College sweethearts. dated four years through college before we got married,
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Dated four years through college before we got married, had been married about 15 years.
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College before we got married, had been married about 15 years. and i thought we had
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Had been married about 15 years. and i thought we had a wonderful marriage,
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And i thought we had a wonderful marriage, a wonderful relationship,
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A wonderful marriage, a wonderful relationship, until one day,
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A wonderful relationship, until one day, his addiction to pornography
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Until one day, his addiction to pornography came out into the open.
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His addiction to pornography came out into the open. and the rejection
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Came out into the open. and the rejection that i felt shocked me.
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And the rejection that i felt shocked me. i lost trust in so many things--
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That i felt shocked me. i lost trust in so many things-- in him, in myself.
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I lost trust in so many things-- in him, in myself. >> erin: yeah.
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In him, in myself. >> erin: yeah. >> ginger: because
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>> erin: yeah. >> ginger: because "why didn't i know better?
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>> ginger: because "why didn't i know better? why didn't i see this coming?"
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It even changed--
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It even changed-- i felt rejected by god
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It even changed-- i felt rejected by god because it was, "god, i've been
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I felt rejected by god because it was, "god, i've been praying for this
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Because it was, "god, i've been praying for this man every year--
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Praying for this man every year-- or every day for years,
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Man every year-- or every day for years, and still, this is where we are?
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Or every day for years, and still, this is where we are? why did you not intervene?
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And still, this is where we are? why did you not intervene? how do i find myself
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Why did you not intervene? how do i find myself in this place?"
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How do i find myself in this place?" so, i just felt
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In this place?" so, i just felt rejection all around,
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So, i just felt rejection all around, and i had no idea like you said,
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Rejection all around, and i had no idea like you said, joyce, that that's exactly
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And i had no idea like you said, joyce, that that's exactly what it was.
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Joyce, that that's exactly what it was. and all of the different
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What it was. and all of the different areas that it impacted
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And all of the different areas that it impacted my life when that happened.
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Areas that it impacted my life when that happened. how that rejection just
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My life when that happened. how that rejection just tangled its tentacles
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How that rejection just tangled its tentacles through my relationships
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Tangled its tentacles through my relationships in so many different ways.
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And i really had to learn,
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And i really had to learn, because i felt like i was
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And i really had to learn, because i felt like i was almost bobbing in an ocean,
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Because i felt like i was almost bobbing in an ocean, going up and down where
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Almost bobbing in an ocean, going up and down where i'd think "i'm so mad,"
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Going up and down where i'd think "i'm so mad," you know, "i'm just so angry"
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I'd think "i'm so mad," you know, "i'm just so angry" and i'd get a little
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You know, "i'm just so angry" and i'd get a little bit over that and then
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And i'd get a little bit over that and then it then would come
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Bit over that and then it then would come back up and it's like,
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It then would come back up and it's like, "i'm so worthless,"
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Back up and it's like, "i'm so worthless," you know, he--
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"i'm so worthless," you know, he-- "i don't have what he needs,"
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You know, he-- "i don't have what he needs," because he rejected me.
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"i don't have what he needs," because he rejected me. and then i'd go back,
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Because he rejected me. and then i'd go back, and i'd stabilize a little bit
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And then i'd go back, and i'd stabilize a little bit and those waves would just
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And i'd stabilize a little bit and those waves would just keep coming with different
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And those waves would just keep coming with different emotions that were
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Keep coming with different emotions that were all fueled by the rejection
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Emotions that were all fueled by the rejection that i was dealing with.
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All fueled by the rejection that i was dealing with. and i really had to learn,
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That i was dealing with. and i really had to learn, and this was a hard
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And i really had to learn, and this was a hard place to start,
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And this was a hard place to start, was that it wasn't about
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Place to start, was that it wasn't about my marriage anymore
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Was that it wasn't about my marriage anymore at that point.
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My marriage anymore at that point. it was about me and god
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At that point. it was about me and god and how i was going to connect
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It was about me and god and how i was going to connect with who god said i was
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And how i was going to connect with who god said i was and not who the world said,
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With who god said i was and not who the world said, not who my husband said,
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And not who the world said, not who my husband said, not who anybody else said.
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Not who my husband said, not who anybody else said. i was not rejected by god.
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Not who anybody else said. i was not rejected by god. and it took me a long time
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I was not rejected by god. and it took me a long time to work through all of that.
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And it took me a long time to work through all of that. so, you know, i've been
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To work through all of that. so, you know, i've been rejected in many other ways,
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So, you know, i've been rejected in many other ways, of course, as we all have.
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Rejected in many other ways, of course, as we all have. but that was the one that kind
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Of course, as we all have. but that was the one that kind of pushed me off the ledge.
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>> erin: what you both said,
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>> erin: what you both said, i think, is really interesting,
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>> erin: what you both said, i think, is really interesting, is that there was the one
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I think, is really interesting, is that there was the one event that caused you
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Is that there was the one event that caused you to feel that way,
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Event that caused you to feel that way, but then it spills over into
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To feel that way, but then it spills over into other parts of your life
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But then it spills over into other parts of your life because rejection isn't
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Other parts of your life because rejection isn't confined to a box.
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Because rejection isn't confined to a box. it can affect all of your life.
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Confined to a box. it can affect all of your life. and my story is similar
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It can affect all of your life. and my story is similar to yours, ginger,
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And my story is similar to yours, ginger, where i felt rejection
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To yours, ginger, where i felt rejection in small ways growing up,
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Where i felt rejection in small ways growing up, but then found out about
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In small ways growing up, but then found out about my husband's addition
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But then found out about my husband's addition to pornography after 11 years
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My husband's addition to pornography after 11 years of marriage and had no idea,
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Blindsided.
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Blindsided. and so, the after effects
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Blindsided. and so, the after effects of feeling that rejected
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And so, the after effects of feeling that rejected touched so many areas.
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Of feeling that rejected touched so many areas. so, i'm curious,
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Touched so many areas. so, i'm curious, how did you guys see that--?
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So, i'm curious, how did you guys see that--? i wanna say rejection
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How did you guys see that--? i wanna say rejection manifested in your own lives,
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I wanna say rejection manifested in your own lives, where it's not just about
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Manifested in your own lives, where it's not just about your family dynamics
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Where it's not just about your family dynamics or your marriage,
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Your family dynamics or your marriage, but you're seeing it with
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Or your marriage, but you're seeing it with your kids or with, i mean,
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But you're seeing it with your kids or with, i mean, your golf example is a good one,
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Your kids or with, i mean, your golf example is a good one, but other ways.
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Your golf example is a good one, but other ways. because i don't think
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But other ways. because i don't think we all understand that
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Because i don't think we all understand that that's what's happening.
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We all understand that that's what's happening. "i am responding that way
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That's what's happening. "i am responding that way because i feel rejected," so.
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"i am responding that way because i feel rejected," so. >> joyce: well, we're created
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Because i feel rejected," so. >> joyce: well, we're created for acceptance, period.
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>> joyce: well, we're created for acceptance, period. god loves us,
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For acceptance, period. god loves us, he loves us unconditionally,
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God loves us, he loves us unconditionally, he loved us when we were still
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He loves us unconditionally, he loved us when we were still sinners and he died for us.
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He loved us when we were still sinners and he died for us. and so, we do not have
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Sinners and he died for us. and so, we do not have to earn god's love.
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And so, we do not have to earn god's love. it's there for a free gift.
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To earn god's love. it's there for a free gift. and it's his love that heals us.
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It's there for a free gift. and it's his love that heals us. and it's his love that reveals
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And it's his love that heals us. and it's his love that reveals a lot of things to us about
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And it's his love that reveals a lot of things to us about why we behave certain ways.
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A lot of things to us about why we behave certain ways. so, i think that for me,
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Why we behave certain ways. so, i think that for me, i got an approval addiction.
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So, i think that for me, i got an approval addiction. i only felt good about myself
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I got an approval addiction. i only felt good about myself if everybody was approving
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I only felt good about myself if everybody was approving or if i had done a good job.
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If everybody was approving or if i had done a good job. and god doesn't want
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Or if i had done a good job. and god doesn't want us on that roller coaster
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And god doesn't want us on that roller coaster because all it took to throw
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Us on that roller coaster because all it took to throw my day into the ditch was for
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Because all it took to throw my day into the ditch was for somebody to maybe not like
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My day into the ditch was for somebody to maybe not like a project i had done or,
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Somebody to maybe not like a project i had done or, you know, thought i was
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A project i had done or, you know, thought i was too slow or didn't pay enough
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You know, thought i was too slow or didn't pay enough attention or, you know, what.
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Too slow or didn't pay enough attention or, you know, what. and then you can very easily
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Attention or, you know, what. and then you can very easily turn into a people pleaser.
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And then you can very easily turn into a people pleaser. because you want to keep
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Turn into a people pleaser. because you want to keep everybody liking you.
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Because you want to keep everybody liking you. so, without even really
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Everybody liking you. so, without even really realizing what you're doing,
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So, without even really realizing what you're doing, someday you find yourself
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Realizing what you're doing, someday you find yourself in this trap where you're
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Someday you find yourself in this trap where you're not living your own life.
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In this trap where you're not living your own life. everybody else is living
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Not living your own life. everybody else is living it for you.
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Everybody else is living it for you. >> erin: how exhausting.
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It for you. >> erin: how exhausting. >> joyce: yeah, and the bottom
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>> erin: how exhausting. >> joyce: yeah, and the bottom line of all of this is you have
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>> joyce: yeah, and the bottom line of all of this is you have to feel good about yourself.
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Line of all of this is you have to feel good about yourself. and god gives us that.
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To feel good about yourself. and god gives us that. he wants us to feel good
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And god gives us that. he wants us to feel good about ourselves.
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He wants us to feel good about ourselves. and i know to a lot of religious
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About ourselves. and i know to a lot of religious people that sounds strange
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And i know to a lot of religious people that sounds strange or like it would be wrong
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People that sounds strange or like it would be wrong because we're almost taught to,
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Or like it would be wrong because we're almost taught to, you know, "we're just a poor,
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Because we're almost taught to, you know, "we're just a poor, miserable sinner."
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You know, "we're just a poor, miserable sinner." you know, to have good
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Miserable sinner." you know, to have good thoughts about yourself
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You know, to have good thoughts about yourself would be wrong.
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Thoughts about yourself would be wrong. >> ginger: you can be walking
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Would be wrong. >> ginger: you can be walking in humility and still feel good
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>> ginger: you can be walking in humility and still feel good about who god created you to be.
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In humility and still feel good about who god created you to be. >> joyce: right.
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About who god created you to be. >> joyce: right. because it's all
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>> joyce: right. because it's all "i'm good in christ.
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Because it's all "i'm good in christ. i'm righteous in christ."
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"i'm good in christ. i'm righteous in christ." if you leave out
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I'm righteous in christ." if you leave out the "in christ,"
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If you leave out the "in christ," you miss the whole point.
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The "in christ," you miss the whole point. it's like when
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You miss the whole point. it's like when you're born again,
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It's like when you're born again, he comes to live in you,
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You're born again, he comes to live in you, and you get his nature in you.
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He comes to live in you, and you get his nature in you. and you learn over the years
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And you get his nature in you. and you learn over the years how to live out of that nature.
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And you learn over the years how to live out of that nature. you know, can you
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How to live out of that nature. you know, can you imagine jesus saying,
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You know, can you imagine jesus saying, "oh, i'm just no good,"
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Imagine jesus saying, "oh, i'm just no good," you know, saying all kinds
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"oh, i'm just no good," you know, saying all kinds of bad things about himself.
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You know, saying all kinds of bad things about himself. "i'm stupid."
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Of bad things about himself. "i'm stupid." i can't even hardly say
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"i'm stupid." i can't even hardly say it because i know that
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I can't even hardly say it because i know that would be so far from
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It because i know that would be so far from anything he would say.
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Would be so far from anything he would say. and we are supposed to learn
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Anything he would say. and we are supposed to learn the word and then begin
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And we are supposed to learn the word and then begin to think and speak like god
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The word and then begin to think and speak like god does so we can be the person
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To think and speak like god does so we can be the person god wants us to be and have
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Does so we can be the person god wants us to be and have what he wants us to have.
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God wants us to be and have what he wants us to have. and i said a lot there in just
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What he wants us to have. and i said a lot there in just a few minutes that takes
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And i said a lot there in just a few minutes that takes sometimes years to unravel.
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But if you can be under
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But if you can be under the teaching of someone
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But if you can be under the teaching of someone who has had it happen to them,
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The teaching of someone who has had it happen to them, sometimes they're able
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Who has had it happen to them, sometimes they're able to see what you're doing
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Sometimes they're able to see what you're doing a lot faster than you are.
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To see what you're doing a lot faster than you are. that's why sometimes
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A lot faster than you are. that's why sometimes counseling is good
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That's why sometimes counseling is good for people because they can--
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The person listening
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The person listening to you can sort it out.
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The person listening to you can sort it out. >> ginger: yeah.
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To you can sort it out. >> ginger: yeah. >> erin: we had a question
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>> ginger: yeah. >> erin: we had a question from tiana.
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>> erin: we had a question from tiana. she says, "i currently
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From tiana. she says, "i currently struggle with seeing
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She says, "i currently struggle with seeing myself as god sees me.
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Struggle with seeing myself as god sees me. some days i feel like
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Myself as god sees me. some days i feel like a warrior princess."
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Some days i feel like a warrior princess." i love that.
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A warrior princess." i love that. "but most days i feel
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I love that. "but most days i feel like damaged goods
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"but most days i feel like damaged goods and that no man desires me.
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Like damaged goods and that no man desires me. i've read scriptures
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And that no man desires me. i've read scriptures of affirmation
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I've read scriptures of affirmation of my identity in christ,
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Of affirmation of my identity in christ, but they don't stick
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Of my identity in christ, but they don't stick for too long.
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But they don't stick for too long. how do i have faith
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For too long. how do i have faith without being rejected--
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How do i have faith without being rejected-- while being rejected
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Without being rejected-- while being rejected and feeling worthless?"
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While being rejected and feeling worthless?" and i think that connects
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And feeling worthless?" and i think that connects to what you guys are talking
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And i think that connects to what you guys are talking about because we may
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To what you guys are talking about because we may know what you're saying.
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About because we may know what you're saying. like, i may know i need to have
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Know what you're saying. like, i may know i need to have my identity found in christ,
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Like, i may know i need to have my identity found in christ, but sometimes it feels
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My identity found in christ, but sometimes it feels like we just keep trying
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But sometimes it feels like we just keep trying and it's not sticking.
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Like we just keep trying and it's not sticking. so, what do you do when
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And it's not sticking. so, what do you do when it's still not,
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So, what do you do when it's still not, you're not getting it?
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It's still not, you're not getting it? >> ginger: i did have that
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You're not getting it? >> ginger: i did have that identity in christ in my head.
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>> ginger: i did have that identity in christ in my head. i knew all the right things.
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Identity in christ in my head. i knew all the right things. but it is different when
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I knew all the right things. but it is different when it becomes a part of who
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But it is different when it becomes a part of who you are because you've
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It becomes a part of who you are because you've walked it out with him.
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You are because you've walked it out with him. and when this happened,
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Walked it out with him. and when this happened, i had reactions that
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And when this happened, i had reactions that i didn't expect.
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I had reactions that i didn't expect. one thing that welled
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I didn't expect. one thing that welled up in me was, like pride.
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One thing that welled up in me was, like pride. i was so embarrassed.
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Up in me was, like pride. i was so embarrassed. i was so embarrassed.
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I was so embarrassed. i was so embarrassed. and i felt like, "okay,
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I was so embarrassed. and i felt like, "okay, i need to build up walls
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And i felt like, "okay, i need to build up walls so i can't get hurt
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I need to build up walls so i can't get hurt like this again."
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So i can't get hurt like this again." and so, by building up those
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Like this again." and so, by building up those walls of pride to keep
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And so, by building up those walls of pride to keep people at a safe distance,
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Walls of pride to keep people at a safe distance, to keep myself built
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People at a safe distance, to keep myself built up in a fake way,
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To keep myself built up in a fake way, i thought that would be how
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Up in a fake way, i thought that would be how i can protect myself.
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I thought that would be how i can protect myself. and it did not work.
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I can protect myself. and it did not work. you know,
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And it did not work. you know, people can see right
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You know, people can see right through something like that.
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People can see right through something like that. and then the next time
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Through something like that. and then the next time you're rejected,
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And then the next time you're rejected, that you're gonna go right
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You're rejected, that you're gonna go right back to the same place because
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That you're gonna go right back to the same place because you were not building who you
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Back to the same place because you were not building who you are on the right foundation.
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You were not building who you are on the right foundation. and so, it affected
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Are on the right foundation. and so, it affected my confidence.
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And so, it affected my confidence. and i had always been a very
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My confidence. and i had always been a very confident person naturally,
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And i had always been a very confident person naturally, but i realized that
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Confident person naturally, but i realized that my confidence was not
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But i realized that my confidence was not built on the right things.
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So, walking through this,
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So, walking through this, god was so kind
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So, walking through this, god was so kind and so gentle with me,
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God was so kind and so gentle with me, even when i was
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And so gentle with me, even when i was furious with him,
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Even when i was furious with him, to walk me through how
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Furious with him, to walk me through how to change these things
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To walk me through how to change these things from what i knew in my head,
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To change these things from what i knew in my head, what i had read,
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From what i knew in my head, what i had read, all my life into what
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What i had read, all my life into what he revealed to me in my heart
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All my life into what he revealed to me in my heart as being true that,
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He revealed to me in my heart as being true that, "yeah, people are
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As being true that, "yeah, people are going to hurt me,
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"yeah, people are going to hurt me, that life is hard sometimes,
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Going to hurt me, that life is hard sometimes, but he delights in me."
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That life is hard sometimes, but he delights in me." i love that word "delights"
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But he delights in me." i love that word "delights" and god uses that
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I love that word "delights" and god uses that in his word several
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And god uses that in his word several times that he delights in us.
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In his word several times that he delights in us. that's like the opposite
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Times that he delights in us. that's like the opposite of rejected.
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That's like the opposite of rejected. if rejected is being
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Of rejected. if rejected is being completely turned away from,
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If rejected is being completely turned away from, not seen, being disdained,
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Completely turned away from, not seen, being disdained, delighted in means,
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Not seen, being disdained, delighted in means, "i not only see you,
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Delighted in means, "i not only see you, but i light up when i see you.
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"i not only see you, but i light up when i see you. i wanna wrap my arms
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But i light up when i see you. i wanna wrap my arms around you."
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I wanna wrap my arms around you." getting that kind of love
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Around you." getting that kind of love from jesus was so much
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Getting that kind of love from jesus was so much more than just, "yeah,
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From jesus was so much more than just, "yeah, i know god loves me."
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More than just, "yeah, i know god loves me." but it really changed all those
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I know god loves me." but it really changed all those things that rejection
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But it really changed all those things that rejection was trying to shift in me.
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Things that rejection was trying to shift in me. because rejection tells
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Was trying to shift in me. because rejection tells you all kinds of lies.
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Because rejection tells you all kinds of lies. it tells you lies like,
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You all kinds of lies. it tells you lies like, "i'll never be what
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It tells you lies like, "i'll never be what i need to be."
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"i'll never be what i need to be." >> joyce: or even lies like
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I need to be." >> joyce: or even lies like you're being rejected
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>> joyce: or even lies like you're being rejected when you're not.
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You're being rejected when you're not. >> ginger: exactly, yeah.
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When you're not. >> ginger: exactly, yeah. >> erin: absolutely.
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>> ginger: exactly, yeah. >> erin: absolutely. >> ginger: so, when this
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>> erin: absolutely. >> ginger: so, when this happened with my husband,
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>> ginger: so, when this happened with my husband, the first thing i talked about,
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Happened with my husband, the first thing i talked about, that anger and that pride
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The first thing i talked about, that anger and that pride coming up,
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That anger and that pride coming up, the first thing i was like,
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Coming up, the first thing i was like, "i am desirable,
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The first thing i was like, "i am desirable, and i'm gonna prove.
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"i am desirable, and i'm gonna prove. i'm gonna prove
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And i'm gonna prove. i'm gonna prove that i am desirable."
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I'm gonna prove that i am desirable." and then you start thinking
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That i am desirable." and then you start thinking things that can take you down
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And then you start thinking things that can take you down an incredibly dangerous path.
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Things that can take you down an incredibly dangerous path. and i'm so glad that
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An incredibly dangerous path. and i'm so glad that god did not allow
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And i'm so glad that god did not allow me to do anything with that.
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God did not allow me to do anything with that. but then seeing through
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Me to do anything with that. but then seeing through that lens of rejection,
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But then seeing through that lens of rejection, like even--
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That lens of rejection, like even-- [chuckling]
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Like even-- [chuckling] this is so silly, but it's true.
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Even our dog,
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Even our dog, like, i started seeing our
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Even our dog, like, i started seeing our dog who was obsessed
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Like, i started seeing our dog who was obsessed with me and loved me...
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Dog who was obsessed with me and loved me... >> erin: yeah.
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With me and loved me... >> erin: yeah. >> ginger: incredibly.
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>> erin: yeah. >> ginger: incredibly. it's like, he wasn't even coming
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>> ginger: incredibly. it's like, he wasn't even coming when i called him anymore.
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It's like, he wasn't even coming when i called him anymore. i was like, "i am so rejected.
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This is how miserable
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This is how miserable i am right now."
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This is how miserable i am right now." >> joyce: dogs are so smart.
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I am right now." >> joyce: dogs are so smart. >> ginger: oh, they know
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>> joyce: dogs are so smart. >> ginger: oh, they know when something's not right.
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>> ginger: oh, they know when something's not right. >> joyce: he knew something
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When something's not right. >> joyce: he knew something wasn't right.
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>> joyce: he knew something wasn't right. >> ginger: exactly.
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Wasn't right. >> ginger: exactly. so, i'm looking at him thinking,
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>> ginger: exactly. so, i'm looking at him thinking, "okay, no one wants me.
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Do you have some little
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Do you have some little poodle on the side or what?
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Do you have some little poodle on the side or what? what's going on?"
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Poodle on the side or what? what's going on?" and you begin to see
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What's going on?" and you begin to see that from your friends.
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And you begin to see that from your friends. you begin to see it from god.
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That from your friends. you begin to see it from god. you begin to see it from other
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You begin to see it from god. you begin to see it from other people because it's just like
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You begin to see it from other people because it's just like you're wearing those instead
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People because it's just like you're wearing those instead of rose-colored glasses,
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You're wearing those instead of rose-colored glasses, they're glasses that are
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Of rose-colored glasses, they're glasses that are the lens of rejection.
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They're glasses that are the lens of rejection. and you see it everywhere,
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The lens of rejection. and you see it everywhere, even when it's not.
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And you see it everywhere, even when it's not. and that drives people to reject
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Even when it's not. and that drives people to reject you more because like you said,
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And that drives people to reject you more because like you said, they can sense it.
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You more because like you said, they can sense it. and it's uncomfortable
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They can sense it. and it's uncomfortable to be around you
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And it's uncomfortable to be around you because you've got
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To be around you because you've got all this angst inside of you.
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Because you've got all this angst inside of you. >> joyce: and really,
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All this angst inside of you. >> joyce: and really, as long as you have that--
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>> joyce: and really, as long as you have that-- and i don't mean this
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As long as you have that-- and i don't mean this to sound harsh,
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And i don't mean this to sound harsh, but it's really kind of selfish,
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To sound harsh, but it's really kind of selfish, because all you have
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But it's really kind of selfish, because all you have your mind on is you.
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Because all you have your mind on is you. >> ginger: that's exactly true.
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Your mind on is you. >> ginger: that's exactly true. >> joyce: and how everybody's
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>> ginger: that's exactly true. >> joyce: and how everybody's making you feel.
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>> joyce: and how everybody's making you feel. and "well, you didn't--
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Making you feel. and "well, you didn't-- you didn't make me feel good,
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And "well, you didn't-- you didn't make me feel good, you didn't talk to me."
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You didn't make me feel good, you didn't talk to me." we become very insecure
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You didn't talk to me." we become very insecure if you carry around that
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We become very insecure if you carry around that root of rejection,
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If you carry around that root of rejection, and then that spills over into
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Root of rejection, and then that spills over into giving you no confidence,
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And then that spills over into giving you no confidence, and it spills over into all
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Giving you no confidence, and it spills over into all kinds of fears about what,
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And it spills over into all kinds of fears about what, you know, fear of man,
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Kinds of fears about what, you know, fear of man, fear of "what do they think,"
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You know, fear of man, fear of "what do they think," fear of "what do they say."
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Fear of "what do they think," fear of "what do they say." and the only answer to any
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Fear of "what do they say." and the only answer to any of this is to learn what
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And the only answer to any of this is to learn what the word says and believe it.
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Of this is to learn what the word says and believe it. and one of the things
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The word says and believe it. and one of the things that helps you believe
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And one of the things that helps you believe it is to meditate on it,
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That helps you believe it is to meditate on it, which includes murmuring it,
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It is to meditate on it, which includes murmuring it, or mumbling it,
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Which includes murmuring it, or mumbling it, or speaking it out loud.
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Or mumbling it, or speaking it out loud. and that was very helpful to me.
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Or speaking it out loud. and that was very helpful to me. because every time you tell
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And that was very helpful to me. because every time you tell yourself the truth, you know.
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Because every time you tell yourself the truth, you know. how many lies do people
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Yourself the truth, you know. how many lies do people believe about themselves?
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How many lies do people believe about themselves? and sometimes you just need
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Believe about themselves? and sometimes you just need to sit down and have a meeting
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And sometimes you just need to sit down and have a meeting with yourself and be reasonable.
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To sit down and have a meeting with yourself and be reasonable. "am i really no good?
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With yourself and be reasonable. "am i really no good? does everybody really hate me?"
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"am i really no good? does everybody really hate me?" >> erin: yeah.
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Does everybody really hate me?" >> erin: yeah. >> joyce: you know?
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>> erin: yeah. >> joyce: you know? and sometimes you can
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>> joyce: you know? and sometimes you can come back with,
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And sometimes you can come back with, "that's really kinda stupid.
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Come back with, "that's really kinda stupid. there are people that love me.
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"that's really kinda stupid. there are people that love me. i have friends."
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There are people that love me. i have friends." and you have to love
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I have friends." and you have to love yourself before you
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And you have to love yourself before you can love anybody else.
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Yourself before you can love anybody else. you have to love,
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Can love anybody else. you have to love, not everything you do,
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You have to love, not everything you do, but who you are in christ.
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Not everything you do, but who you are in christ. >> erin: here's a question.
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But who you are in christ. >> erin: here's a question. it kind of goes back
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>> erin: here's a question. it kind of goes back to what you guys were
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It kind of goes back to what you guys were both just talking about.
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To what you guys were both just talking about. but "how do you--"
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Both just talking about. but "how do you--" this is christy from indiana.
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But "how do you--" this is christy from indiana. "how do you get over
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This is christy from indiana. "how do you get over feeling rejected by god?"
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"how do you get over feeling rejected by god?" so, what do you do when
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Feeling rejected by god?" so, what do you do when you're rejected by god?
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So, what do you do when you're rejected by god? >> joyce: well, you're not
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You're rejected by god? >> joyce: well, you're not rejected by god.
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>> joyce: well, you're not rejected by god. you're never rejected by god.
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Rejected by god. you're never rejected by god. and she needs to flip
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You're never rejected by god. and she needs to flip that on the enemy.
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And she needs to flip that on the enemy. and instead of thinking
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That on the enemy. and instead of thinking about what she doesn't have,
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And instead of thinking about what she doesn't have, the prayers god hasn't answered,
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About what she doesn't have, the prayers god hasn't answered, how many has he answered?
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The prayers god hasn't answered, how many has he answered? a lot more than what he hasn't.
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How many has he answered? a lot more than what he hasn't. and she may have been
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A lot more than what he hasn't. and she may have been asking for things
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And she may have been asking for things that wasn't god's will.
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Asking for things that wasn't god's will. maybe having this certain
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That wasn't god's will. maybe having this certain job wasn't god's will for her.
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Maybe having this certain job wasn't god's will for her. you have to believe when you
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Job wasn't god's will for her. you have to believe when you pray and ask for something,
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You have to believe when you pray and ask for something, god always answers,
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Pray and ask for something, god always answers, but sometimes it is "no."
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God always answers, but sometimes it is "no." >> erin: yeah.
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>> ginger: that's a question
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>> ginger: that's a question that i can really relate to.
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>> ginger: that's a question that i can really relate to. and not because
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That i can really relate to. and not because god's ever rejected me,
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And not because god's ever rejected me, because he hasn't,
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God's ever rejected me, because he hasn't, but because i allowed
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Because he hasn't, but because i allowed the lies that rejection was
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But because i allowed the lies that rejection was telling me to lead me to feel
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The lies that rejection was telling me to lead me to feel like god was rejecting me.
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Telling me to lead me to feel like god was rejecting me. and realizing that our feelings
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Like god was rejecting me. and realizing that our feelings are not always based on truth
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And realizing that our feelings are not always based on truth was hugely important for me.
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Are not always based on truth was hugely important for me. and it took a long time.
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Was hugely important for me. and it took a long time. like, god and i had a lot
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And it took a long time. like, god and i had a lot of wrestling matches,
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Like, god and i had a lot of wrestling matches, like literally just crying
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Out to god on the floor,
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Out to god on the floor, face to the ground,
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Out to god on the floor, face to the ground, "how could you let this happen?"
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Face to the ground, "how could you let this happen?" and not only this situation,
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"how could you let this happen?" and not only this situation, but many others,
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And not only this situation, but many others, like you were talking about,
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But many others, like you were talking about, losing loved ones and different
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Like you were talking about, losing loved ones and different things that i've had.
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Losing loved ones and different things that i've had. i felt a huge rejection when
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Things that i've had. i felt a huge rejection when i lost someone to suicide
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I felt a huge rejection when i lost someone to suicide because i felt like they chose
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I lost someone to suicide because i felt like they chose to leave me and therefore
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Because i felt like they chose to leave me and therefore i was rejected once again.
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To leave me and therefore i was rejected once again. and that feeling that therefore
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I was rejected once again. and that feeling that therefore god is rejecting me because
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And that feeling that therefore god is rejecting me because he could have done something.
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God is rejecting me because he could have done something. and dealing with those
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He could have done something. and dealing with those feelings are exactly what
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And dealing with those feelings are exactly what satan wants us to hold
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Feelings are exactly what satan wants us to hold on to tighter than
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Satan wants us to hold on to tighter than we do to the truth
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On to tighter than we do to the truth of what god's word says.
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We do to the truth of what god's word says. and i had to immerse myself,
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Of what god's word says. and i had to immerse myself, retrain myself
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And i had to immerse myself, retrain myself in who god says he is.
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Retrain myself in who god says he is. and then, like you said,
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In who god says he is. and then, like you said, joyce, asking,
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And then, like you said, joyce, asking, "what is the evidence
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Joyce, asking, "what is the evidence i have of this?"
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"what is the evidence i have of this?" and then realizing there's
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I have of this?" and then realizing there's more evidence of god's
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And then realizing there's more evidence of god's goodness and kindness--
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More evidence of god's goodness and kindness-- >> erin: absolutely.
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Goodness and kindness-- >> erin: absolutely. >> ginger: than there is.
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>> erin: absolutely. >> ginger: than there is. yes, these terrible
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>> ginger: than there is. yes, these terrible things have happened,
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Yes, these terrible things have happened, but god provides
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Things have happened, but god provides for me every day.
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But god provides for me every day. and god is healing us even
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For me every day. and god is healing us even through this tragedy.
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And god is healing us even through this tragedy. just allowing myself
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Through this tragedy. just allowing myself to open my heart--
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Just allowing myself to open my heart-- that was the big thing.
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To open my heart-- that was the big thing. because again,
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That was the big thing. because again, i didn't want god
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Because again, i didn't want god to hurt me again either.
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I didn't want god to hurt me again either. so, if i felt like god
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To hurt me again either. so, if i felt like god was rejecting me,
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So, if i felt like god was rejecting me, then the easiest thing
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Was rejecting me, then the easiest thing to do was to push god away.
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Then the easiest thing to do was to push god away. but when i did that,
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To do was to push god away. but when i did that, there was no healing in sight
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But when i did that, there was no healing in sight because that's the only place
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There was no healing in sight because that's the only place that healing comes from.
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Because that's the only place that healing comes from. so, to open my heart
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That healing comes from. so, to open my heart to see who god really was,
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So, to open my heart to see who god really was, help those feelings
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To see who god really was, help those feelings to be put aside because
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Help those feelings to be put aside because they're replaced by truth
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To be put aside because they're replaced by truth and for that healing to begin.
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It's a long process.
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It's a long process. >> erin: it is.
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It's a long process. >> erin: it is. >> joyce: see, god spoke
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>> erin: it is. >> joyce: see, god spoke to my heart one time when
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>> joyce: see, god spoke to my heart one time when i was dealing with this
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To my heart one time when i was dealing with this opening my heart, and he said,
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I was dealing with this opening my heart, and he said, "if you--
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Opening my heart, and he said, "if you-- you can't love as long as you--
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"if you-- you can't love as long as you-- unless you're
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You can't love as long as you-- unless you're willing to be hurt."
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Unless you're willing to be hurt." >> erin: which is so scary
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Willing to be hurt." >> erin: which is so scary when you've been hurt.
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>> erin: which is so scary when you've been hurt. >> joyce: because anytime
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When you've been hurt. >> joyce: because anytime that you really,
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>> joyce: because anytime that you really, really love somebody,
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That you really, really love somebody, eventually they're
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Really love somebody, eventually they're gonna do something
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Eventually they're gonna do something that's gonna bug you.
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Gonna do something that's gonna bug you. and depending on how
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That's gonna bug you. and depending on how secure you are--
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And depending on how secure you are-- i've been thinking
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Secure you are-- i've been thinking as i've been listening,
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I've been thinking as i've been listening, "why is it that when somebody
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As i've been listening, "why is it that when somebody does something wrong,
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"why is it that when somebody does something wrong, that we always take it that
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Does something wrong, that we always take it that it's our fault?"
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That we always take it that it's our fault?" >> erin: oh, absolutely.
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It's our fault?" >> erin: oh, absolutely. yeah, i have done that.
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>> erin: oh, absolutely. yeah, i have done that. >> joyce: i mean,
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Yeah, i have done that. >> joyce: i mean, that doesn't make any sense.
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>> joyce: i mean, that doesn't make any sense. you know,
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That doesn't make any sense. you know, "why was it my fault that
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You know, "why was it my fault that my father sexually abused me?"
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"why was it my fault that my father sexually abused me?" i mean--
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My father sexually abused me?" i mean-- >> ginger: and it wasn't.
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I mean-- >> ginger: and it wasn't. >> joyce: no.
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>> ginger: and it wasn't. >> joyce: no. >> ginger: those feelings--
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>> joyce: no. >> ginger: those feelings-- >> joyce: the devil lied to me,
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>> ginger: those feelings-- >> joyce: the devil lied to me, and i didn't know the truth.
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>> joyce: the devil lied to me, and i didn't know the truth. and so, that lie became
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And i didn't know the truth. and so, that lie became my reality because what
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And so, that lie became my reality because what you believe is what
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My reality because what you believe is what becomes your reality.
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You believe is what becomes your reality. and something i feel
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Becomes your reality. and something i feel like i have to say,
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And something i feel like i have to say, i say this all the time,
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Like i have to say, i say this all the time, but you forgiving
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I say this all the time, but you forgiving the person that hurt you,
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But you forgiving the person that hurt you, is the beginning
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The person that hurt you, is the beginning of your healing.
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Is the beginning of your healing. you cannot heal and hold
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Of your healing. you cannot heal and hold unforgiveness in your heart.
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You cannot heal and hold unforgiveness in your heart. and that doesn't necessarily
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Unforgiveness in your heart. and that doesn't necessarily mean reconciliation,
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And that doesn't necessarily mean reconciliation, but it means that you're
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Mean reconciliation, but it means that you're gonna pray for them,
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But it means that you're gonna pray for them, you're gonna not talk
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Gonna pray for them, you're gonna not talk bad about them, and--
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You're gonna not talk bad about them, and-- >> ginger: boy,
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Bad about them, and-- >> ginger: boy, that took me a while.
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>> ginger: boy, that took me a while. that's hard.
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That took me a while. that's hard. >> joyce: it is, yeah.
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That's hard. >> joyce: it is, yeah. and i'm not saying if you
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>> joyce: it is, yeah. and i'm not saying if you need to get some help,
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And i'm not saying if you need to get some help, some counseling,
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Need to get some help, some counseling, or, you know, talk to a good
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Some counseling, or, you know, talk to a good friend or something.
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Or, you know, talk to a good friend or something. i'm talking about the gossiping.
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Friend or something. i'm talking about the gossiping. [nagging noises]
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I'm talking about the gossiping. [nagging noises] >> erin: we know the difference
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[nagging noises] >> erin: we know the difference between talking for help
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>> erin: we know the difference between talking for help or talking to talk.
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Between talking for help or talking to talk. absolutely.
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Or talking to talk. absolutely. >> joyce: yeah,
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Absolutely. >> joyce: yeah, well you're right about that.
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>> joyce: yeah, well you're right about that. so, i don't have to try
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Well you're right about that. so, i don't have to try to convince people
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So, i don't have to try to convince people you're right, they know.
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To convince people you're right, they know. >> erin: we know deep in our
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You're right, they know. >> erin: we know deep in our hearts when it's crossed
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>> erin: we know deep in our hearts when it's crossed the line.
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Hearts when it's crossed the line. >> joyce: it's not something
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The line. >> joyce: it's not something you wait to feel,
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>> joyce: it's not something you wait to feel, it's something you choose to do.
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You wait to feel, it's something you choose to do. >> ginger: forgiveness, yeah.
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It's something you choose to do. >> ginger: forgiveness, yeah. >> joyce: love is about
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>> ginger: forgiveness, yeah. >> joyce: love is about how you treat people.
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>> joyce: love is about how you treat people. it's not about a feeling
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How you treat people. it's not about a feeling you have or don't have.
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It's not about a feeling you have or don't have. it's how you treat people.
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You have or don't have. it's how you treat people. and i believe that god--
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It's how you treat people. and i believe that god-- i think that one of the most
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And i believe that god-- i think that one of the most important things to god
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I think that one of the most important things to god is how we treat people.
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Important things to god is how we treat people. >> ginger: yeah, i had a friend
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Is how we treat people. >> ginger: yeah, i had a friend that hurt me really bad.
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>> ginger: yeah, i had a friend that hurt me really bad. and it still, to think about it,
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That hurt me really bad. and it still, to think about it, it still hurts.
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And it still, to think about it, it still hurts. and that forgiveness
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It still hurts. and that forgiveness is something that i'm giving
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And that forgiveness is something that i'm giving over and over and over
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Is something that i'm giving over and over and over because it's a choice.
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Over and over and over because it's a choice. and that person will
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Because it's a choice. and that person will probably never know.
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And that person will probably never know. and it's not something
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Probably never know. and it's not something that is going to heal
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And it's not something that is going to heal anything on the outside.
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That is going to heal anything on the outside. that relationship
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Anything on the outside. that relationship isn't going to--
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That relationship isn't going to-- as far as i know,
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Isn't going to-- as far as i know, god can do anything,
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As far as i know, god can do anything, but isn't going to be restored.
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God can do anything, but isn't going to be restored. but the step for me to do that
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But isn't going to be restored. but the step for me to do that is hugely important.
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But the step for me to do that is hugely important. otherwise, that rejection
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Is hugely important. otherwise, that rejection stays there and festers.
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Otherwise, that rejection stays there and festers. it's like any infection,
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Stays there and festers. it's like any infection, if you have a cut,
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It's like any infection, if you have a cut, you have to clean it out
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If you have a cut, you have to clean it out and the forgiveness
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You have to clean it out and the forgiveness is what's inside of there
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And the forgiveness is what's inside of there that has to be cleaned out
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Is what's inside of there that has to be cleaned out for the healing to begin.
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That has to be cleaned out for the healing to begin. >> joyce: and sometimes you
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For the healing to begin. >> joyce: and sometimes you even have to forgive yourself.
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>> joyce: and sometimes you even have to forgive yourself. >> ginger: oh, yeah.
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Even have to forgive yourself. >> ginger: oh, yeah. >> joyce: and of course,
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>> ginger: oh, yeah. >> joyce: and of course, we know only god can forgive us,
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>> joyce: and of course, we know only god can forgive us, but it's really receiving
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We know only god can forgive us, but it's really receiving his forgiveness.
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But it's really receiving his forgiveness. and so many people,
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His forgiveness. and so many people, you know, i had to decide,
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And so many people, you know, i had to decide, "i am not guilty because
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You know, i had to decide, "i am not guilty because my father sexually abused me.
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"i am not guilty because my father sexually abused me. it was not my fault."
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My father sexually abused me. it was not my fault." >> erin: oh, that's really good.
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It was not my fault." >> erin: oh, that's really good. >> joyce: and you know,
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>> erin: oh, that's really good. >> joyce: and you know, for some people,
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>> joyce: and you know, for some people, they don't even really know--
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For some people, they don't even really know-- that that's been their life,
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They don't even really know-- that that's been their life, that's been their existence,
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That that's been their life, that's been their existence, they don't even really
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That's been their existence, they don't even really know that the way
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They don't even really know that the way they feel is a problem.
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Know that the way they feel is a problem. i felt guilty for so long.
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They feel is a problem. i felt guilty for so long. like i said, i didn't feel
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I felt guilty for so long. like i said, i didn't feel right if i didn't feel wrong.
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Like i said, i didn't feel right if i didn't feel wrong. and when i started
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Right if i didn't feel wrong. and when i started to feel right,
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And when i started to feel right, then i felt guilty
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To feel right, then i felt guilty because i felt right.
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Then i felt guilty because i felt right. and you gotta stick with it.
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Because i felt right. and you gotta stick with it. >> erin: you do.
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And you gotta stick with it. >> erin: you do. >> ginger: and you don't
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>> erin: you do. >> ginger: and you don't always realize how
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>> ginger: and you don't always realize how it's impacting your life.
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Always realize how it's impacting your life. and so, i think,
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It's impacting your life. and so, i think, like we've all been
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And so, i think, like we've all been talking about here,
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Like we've all been talking about here, until we can really explore
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Talking about here, until we can really explore our relationship with christ,
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Until we can really explore our relationship with christ, there are many things that
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Our relationship with christ, there are many things that may be happening that you
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There are many things that may be happening that you don't understand why.
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May be happening that you don't understand why. "why do i respond this way?"
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Don't understand why. "why do i respond this way?" >> joyce: "why do i get
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"why do i respond this way?" >> joyce: "why do i get so angry?"
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>> joyce: "why do i get so angry?" >> ginger: right.
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So angry?" >> ginger: right. so, god's healing helps
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>> ginger: right. so, god's healing helps us walk through all that.
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>> male 1: my dad had an affair;
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>> male 1: my dad had an affair; blew up my mother's world.
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Blew up my mother's world. she was, you know,
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She was, you know, basically having
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Basically having a nervous breakdown.
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A nervous breakdown. and i didn't really
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And i didn't really understand at 12,
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Understand at 12, you know, all the rejection.
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You know, all the rejection. at that point,
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At that point, i just rejected god.
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>> joyce: you know,
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>> joyce: you know, rejection is unavoidable.
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Rejection is unavoidable. it's not a matter of if,
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It's not a matter of if, but when.
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But when. in fact, even jesus dealt
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In fact, even jesus dealt with being rejected.
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With being rejected. >> ginger: and rejection hurts.
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>> ginger: and rejection hurts. but we don't have to remain
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But we don't have to remain trapped in the pain
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Trapped in the pain it has caused.
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It has caused. >> joyce: that's right.
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>> joyce: that's right. >> ginger: you see,
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>> ginger: you see, healing is a process,
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Healing is a process, but we can be made whole again.
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But we can be made whole again. and our book,
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And our book, "healing the wounds
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"healing the wounds of rejection," can help.
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Of rejection," can help. and here's the exciting part;
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And here's the exciting part; it's now an audiobook.
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It's now an audiobook. >> [joyce clapping]
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>> [joyce clapping] >> joyce: together,
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>> joyce: together, we bring each chapter to life
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We bring each chapter to life by reading it straight to you.
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By reading it straight to you. >> joyce reading: "god accepts
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>> joyce reading: "god accepts us and loves us
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Us and loves us unconditionally."
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Unconditionally." >> ginger reading: "to say i was
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>> ginger reading: "to say i was brokenhearted is a massive
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Brokenhearted is a massive understatement."
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Understatement." >> ginger: as you listen,
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>> ginger: as you listen, we want to help you move forward
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We want to help you move forward from the pain of rejection,
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From the pain of rejection, receive his healing,
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Receive his healing, and remind you of how
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And remind you of how faithful god is.
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Faithful god is. >> joyce: well, i'm so thankful
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>> joyce: well, i'm so thankful that god doesn't
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That god doesn't leave us in our pain,
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Leave us in our pain, but rather reveals
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But rather reveals to us his healing
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To us his healing through jesus.
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Through jesus. he can heal you
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He can heal you everywhere you hurt.
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Everywhere you hurt. >> announcer: we would
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>> announcer: we would like to send you joyce
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Like to send you joyce and ginger's audiobook,
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And ginger's audiobook, "healing the wounds
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"healing the wounds of rejection."
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Of rejection." it's available to you right
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It's available to you right now for your gift of...
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Now for your gift of... or more.
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Or more. and today,
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And today, we'll also include
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We'll also include the "healing the wounds
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The "healing the wounds of rejection guided journal."
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Of rejection guided journal." >> female 1: we need
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>> female 1: we need books like this.
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Books like this. we need people like
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We need people like this and conversations
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This and conversations that allow us to open up
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That allow us to open up and talk about these issues.
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And talk about these issues. >> male 2: it really resonated
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>> male 2: it really resonated with me when i read that when
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With me when i read that when you're rejecting yourself,
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You're rejecting yourself, you're probably
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You're probably rejecting others.
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Rejecting others. >> female 2: i got to some
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>> female 2: i got to some parts and was like, "oh,
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Parts and was like, "oh, this does apply to me.
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This does apply to me. this applies a little bit
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This applies a little bit more frequently than
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More frequently than i was even aware of."
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I was even aware of." >> female 3: through this book,
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>> female 3: through this book, it's like, god goes,
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It's like, god goes, "no, i've always loved you.
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"no, i've always loved you. you are who i say you are."
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You are who i say you are." >> announcer: don't miss out
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>> announcer: don't miss out on this opportunity
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On this opportunity to listen, reflect, and track
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To listen, reflect, and track your healing journey.
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Joyce and ginger's "healing
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Joyce and ginger's "healing the wounds of rejection"
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The wounds of rejection" audiobook and the "healing
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Audiobook and the "healing the wounds of rejection
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The wounds of rejection guided journal" is available
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Guided journal" is available for your gift of...
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For your gift of... or more.
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Or more. give us a call at...
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Give us a call at... or visit us online at:
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Or visit us online at: joycemeyer.org.
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Joycemeyer.org. and remember,
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And remember, your gift allows us
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Your gift allows us to continue to share
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To continue to share the love of christ
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The love of christ around the world
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Around the world through all
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Through all of our outreaches.
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>> joyce: god loves you
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>> joyce: god loves you unconditionally and accepts
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Unconditionally and accepts you completely.
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>> announcer: our stories,
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>> announcer: our stories, they matter.
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They matter. your gifts, your passions,
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Your gifts, your passions, even your quirkiness,
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Even your quirkiness, they were designed
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They were designed with intention.
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With intention. he can use every twist
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He can use every twist and turn of your journey
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And turn of your journey to create something new.
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To create something new. out of brokenness, beauty.
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Out of brokenness, beauty. out of struggle,
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Out of struggle, a life transformed.
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A life transformed. join us for the 2026 love life
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And discover how god can bring transformation
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Can bring transformation to your story.
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To your story. with joyce and her guests,
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>> announcer: we hope you
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>> announcer: we hope you enjoyed today's program.
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Enjoyed today's program. we are so grateful
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We are so grateful to our joyce meyer
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To our joyce meyer ministries partners
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Who make this and all we do possible,
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And all we do possible, including sharing
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Including sharing god's word
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God's word and offering help
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And offering help to people in need
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To people in need all over the world.
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Joyce Meyer - Healing The Wounds of Rejection (Part 2)

May 20, 2026 | 27:29

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