The author of “Born For Meaning” shares what he learned about purpose and calling through his times of pain and loss.
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Life Today with James Robison | Chad Prather: Rock Bottom Rebound | Life Today | April 15, 2026
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- Of life outreach international and the friends
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- Chad prather: so we think of pain and suffering
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- As being a curse, it's not, it's a blessing.
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- We are taking our suffering for granted.
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- God uses suffering.
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- Jesus became that mature sacrifice, if you will, that
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- Perfect sacrifice through what he suffered.
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- We look at suffering as being something
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- That we rebuke the devil for.
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- It's not, pain is a gift.
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- You put your hand on a hot stove,
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- Pain tells you to remove the hand.
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- That's a gift.
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- Announcer: nothing is wasted with god, including our pain,
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- Next on "life today."
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- [music]
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- Randy robison: welcome to life today, i'm randy robison,
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- Blynda lane joins me.
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- Blynda lane: happy to be here, hi, randy.
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- Randy: it's great to see you, great to see you.
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- Chad prather's joining us again.
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- Blynda: i know, i'm so excited to continue the conversation.
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- "born for meaning" is the book.
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- Welcome, chad.
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- Chad prather: thank you, thanks for having me back.
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- Randy: yeah, i gotta say, by the way, if anybody, you guys missed
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- The other program with chad, go to lifetoday.org.
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- You can see all the programs there, but we're back to talk
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- About the book.
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- It's a funny book about grief in some ways.
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- Chad: i often say it's not a book i ever thought i would be
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- Writing, a book about brokenness and grief and tragedy and
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- Trauma, and i say all of those, because everybody's been through
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- Hurt, everybody's been through something, they're carrying
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- Around some level of grief.
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- Last year for me was a very hard one.
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- Our dear friend charlie kirk, as we know, was killed.
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- The same day my niece passed away unexpectedly at 38, my aunt
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- Died, and then my mother passed away, so i was going through a
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- Lot of things.
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- And then in the middle of all of it, going through a very lonely
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- Time of god isolating me and working on me personally on some
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- Past regrets and hurts, and out of that "born for meaning" was
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- Born, and i thought here i am.
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- I am now five or six chapters into writing a book about pain.
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- The emails that i've gotten from that book, there are people who
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- Have said we can't keep a book because we keep giving them
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- Away, and so i know that it was something that was supposed to
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- Happen, and it's been a blessing.
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- Randy: i saw a shift, also, i will say in your podcast.
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- Anybody that knows you online, you know, whether you're sitting
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- On the truck or doing the show on your set or the radio, all
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- The great things you've done, and then all of a sudden you're
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- Doing a prayer and a devotional, and that i think is sort of the
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- Fruit of what god's done inside your life, am i right?
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- Chad: yeah, it's so funny to--it's a little humbling.
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- It's a lot humbling.
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- People will send me messages and will say we like this
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- Chad prather.
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- Like, the last guy was a little crude, he was a little crass, he
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- Was a little--he could be offensive, and i did that on
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- Purpose because of the nature of the world in which we live,
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- Coming out of the entertainment world, the political world, the
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- Entertainment, you know, the comedy world, there's some
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- Things that if you search far enough back on the internet, you
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- Don't have to go that far back.
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- You're like, wait a minute, is this the guy that was just on
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- The "life today" show?
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- Hang on a second.
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- But the lord did a powerful work in me and said, "listen, i made
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- A lot of investments in you as a young man, i'm ready to make
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- Some withdrawals out of you.
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- You've messed around long enough, you've drifted
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- Long enough."
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- The lord gave me this platform on social media with these
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- Millions of followers tuned in, and i had no idea that he was
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- Building all of that to do this.
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- And so i was praying last year, and i felt impressed to--i
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- Would do my devotional, i'll sit in my studio, my podcast studio,
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- And i'll do my devotions in the morning, and i felt impressed.
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- I said i should go live on all of my platforms and just do 10
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- Minutes, 15 minutes, and i started doing it, and people
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- Started really loving it.
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- They were like, we don't know who this guy is, we don't know
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- Who you are, but we like this version of you.
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- And so then there were some platforms who came to me and
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- Said could you do that for an hour?
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- Like, we would love to feature you if you could do it for
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- An hour.
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- And i said you want me to teach the bible for an hour, five days
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- A week early in the morning?
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- I said yes, i'll do it.
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- And what that podcast, if you want to call it that, that
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- "before the noise" show turned into something, and now we have
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- Several hundred thousand people that are watching live every
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- Day, and it's an amazing blessing for me, because i tell
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- People i say these are my devotions, you're just sitting
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- In with me, and when i say you, i really do mean me, so.
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- Blynda: well, you mentioned in the last show that you were a
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- Preacher, so you know, you can tap back into that a little bit.
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- Chad: i could, and i've always been a note taker, and i had
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- Some very influential men who did invest in my life.
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- My pastor and spiritual father in georgia, wade trimmer, dudley
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- Hall, our mutual friend, your father invested in me, and many
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- Other names that we could name who personally invested in
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- My life.
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- I was very blessed.
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- I took it for granted.
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- I didn't realize the--just the stature of men that i had access
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- To, and now they're an amazing resource in what we're doing
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- Now, because i said, okay, how do i do this?
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- So we started doing what a lot of pastors do, and i'm not
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- Anybody's pastor but just started working expositorily
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- Through the scripture.
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- And we did--we started with the book of john.
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- Everybody starts with the book of john.
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- Randy: it's great.
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- Chad: so we went verse by verse through the book of john over a
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- Period of months, and then we got into, i think we got into
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- The book of acts.
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- We went all the way through the book of acts, and then we went
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- Through ephesians, and we're doing hebrews now.
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- I don't know.
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- You know, hebrews is not light reading.
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- The book of hebrews--
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- Randy: a lot of background.
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- Chad: just yesterday i did hebrews chapter 7 talking about
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- The order of melchizedek, and i'm talking to 21st century
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- People on youtube who are going to, what is this guy on?
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- Like, melchizedek, what are we-- a high priest in the order of
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- The, you know, this king of salem and the king of peace, and
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- What are we talking about?
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- Offerings of blood and sacrifice, and somehow the
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- Lord's been gracious enough to use all of these things, and i
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- Try to put a little hint of humor on it when i can, but i
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- Don't know that everybody thinks of melchizedek as being a
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- Funny guy.
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- Blynda: but it makes it relatable, and so that's good.
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- Okay, so i was reading that you said if you've experienced loss
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- Of any kind, it takes a version of yourself that existed, and
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- You're left to rebuild with what is left.
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- How did you find that to be true and rebuild that in your
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- Identity in christ?
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- Chad: so we think of pain and suffering as being a curse.
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- It's not, it's a blessing.
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- We are taking our suffering for granted.
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- God uses suffering.
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- Jesus, he learned obedience and perfection, he became that
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- Mature sacrifice, if you will, that perfect sacrifice through
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- What he suffered.
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- We look at suffering as being something
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- That we rebuke the devil for.
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- It's not, pain is a gift.
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- You put your hand on a hot stove,
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- Pain tells you to remove the hand.
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- That's a gift.
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- There's certain things that are in us right now that god has no
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- Intention of taking to heaven.
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- He's going to get rid of those things.
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- That process of sanctification is not fun.
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- Again, back in hebrews, when he talks about the father
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- Disciplining his children, he says the peaceable fruit of
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- Righteousness that's yielded through that discipline, the
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- Father disciplines those he loves.
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- That word in the greek, gumnazo, we get gymnasium from that, and
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- The greeks, of course, the olympics, these athletes, they
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- Glorified the human body.
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- They trained naked so the coach could see and look and say, well
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- That's a flabby spot, we gotta work on that.
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- And so they were, you know, laid bare before the coach.
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- Well, the father in the same way is using life to chisel some
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- Things off of us, and so we're losing versions of ourselves
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- That in many ways we're holding on to.
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- That suffering when we embrace it, when we understand what
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- Pain's doing in us, that it really is a gift that god's
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- Using that to force us into situations that we would not go
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- To voluntarily.
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- That's why james says count it joy when you walk into various
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- Kinds of trials, it's sort of that coat of many colors
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- Of trials.
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- God's gonna put you through a little bit of everything, and
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- You're gonna--it's gonna come from angles you never would have
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- Suspected, but you're not gonna put yourself into that, so god
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- Does it for us.
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- Thanks, god.
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- And so that's where we are, and through all of that, we suffer,
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- And we go through grief, and we go through trauma and tragedy,
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- And we hold on to it to the point where we've talked about
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- This in a prior episode where people are actually
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- Manufacturing victimhood and oppression and their own trials
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- And tribulations.
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- They're actually giving themselves spiritual hernias
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- From carrying weights that god never intended for them
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- To carry.
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- And so i learned through hitting rock bottom a few times in life,
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- Stepping on enough landmines that you realize, okay, god,
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- I'm a poor chooser.
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- Like, i'm really not good.
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- I love to see the end from the beginning.
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- If you just show me, if you turn the lights on so i could see all
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- The steps, that'd be great.
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- But he puts about like, you know, on your cell phone, that
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- Little light, and he said, "no, i'll show you the next step,
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- I'll show you the next step, and it's probably not gonna be
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- A perfect step, but i'm gonna keep showing you the next step."
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- And as a poor chooser, i say, okay, god, i'm gonna let you
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- Make the choices for me.
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- And that's hard, because we're not good with the sovereignty
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- Of god.
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- We don't like that.
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- I like tangible things i can put my hands on.
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- Randy: are you a little bit of a control freak?
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- Is that--yeah?
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- Chad: i'm an a-type personality, you know?
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- I like to know the end from the beginning, and it's something i
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- Can sink my teeth into, something i can tangibly feel.
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- And so, god really launched me in the last two years.
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- He launched me into this deep, deep season of just trust me.
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- It's not gonna look like what you've known, just trust me.
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- And i've got some dear, dear friends and just great voices
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- For the lord, and they hear the lord, they're praying for me,
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- And they'll send me a text message.
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- They say something's coming.
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- I was like could you put some flesh on that?
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- And they say something's coming, just it's coming.
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- And i go i don't know what that means, i don't know what that
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- Looks like, it could be martyrdom, who knows?
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- We could go that route, but again, as long as god's
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- Glorified in it, that's what's satisfying me.
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- And when i hit that moment where, as i've told you guys,
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- The lord kind of walked through the living room and confronted
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- Me on some things a few years ago.
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- I said, lord, i don't wanna repeat those mistakes.
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- I don't wanna repeat that.
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- That's the thing about suffering.
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- He'll let you keep going through it.
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- You know, the children of israel, it was the unbelief that
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- Kept them out.
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- They kept--they get to the promised land, and they look
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- Across the creek, and they go, yeah, it's beautiful,
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- Beautiful land.
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- I mean, there's--god says, well, go get it.
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- And he's, oh, there's giants over there.
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- And god's like, well, it's yours, go get it.
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- And they're like, well, it's a good land, it looks great, milk
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- And honey, it looks fantastic, but gotta be subdued, and god
- 00:10:49.105 --> 00:10:52.775
- Said, well, you can do that, just go get it, and they're
- 00:10:52.775 --> 00:10:54.477
- Like, ah, and god says, okay, just take another lap, and
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- That's what they did, and that's what we're doing with our life
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- As well.
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- Randy: so i wanna hit a couple things, because there's some
- 00:11:01.250 --> 00:11:02.752
- Really great content, in "born for meaning," which is
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- Available, by the way, wherever you get books if you wanna pick
- 00:11:05.721 --> 00:11:07.389
- It up, but you talk about happiness, and you've got--i'm
- 00:11:07.389 --> 00:11:13.229
- Not even gonna attempt this one, but what do you say about--
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- Chad: so the difference between happiness and joy, and obviously
- 00:11:17.600 --> 00:11:21.604
- Joy is a fruit of the spirit, but we tend to pursue happiness.
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- Happiness is circumstantial.
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- So as i've said, happiness, if your happenings happen to happen
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- Happily, you'll be happy, and if your happenings happen to happen
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- Unhappily, you'll be unhappy.
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- Randy: exactly.
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- Chad: and so we're unhappy.
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- We're unhappy, because if you're looking at your happenings,
- 00:11:35.551 --> 00:11:36.886
- They're gonna happen unhappily.
- 00:11:36.886 --> 00:11:38.387
- And so we think that that is either the lord's displeasure
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- With us or we've taken the wrong route or pursuing the wrong path
- 00:11:41.791 --> 00:11:44.627
- Or destiny, and really, just-- it's easy to say let's get our
- 00:11:44.627 --> 00:11:49.765
- Eyes off the circumstances, but the circumstances aren't great.
- 00:11:49.765 --> 00:11:52.434
- I had someone who came to me, you know, an internet troll who
- 00:11:52.434 --> 00:11:55.604
- Said so what does jesus think about america bombing iran?
- 00:11:55.604 --> 00:11:59.275
- I said, well, i can tell you this.
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- He very actively cares about the affairs of man, but ultimately,
- 00:12:01.177 --> 00:12:05.014
- The nations are under his authority, and he's controlling
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- Things, again, with his sovereignty.
- 00:12:08.384 --> 00:12:10.052
- And people look at the headlines, they look at the
- 00:12:10.052 --> 00:12:12.154
- Chaos of our world, they see the protesters in the street, they
- 00:12:12.154 --> 00:12:15.558
- See the confusion, this lack of a meta narrative or a big story
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- That's out there, and people are really lost, and they're trying
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- To find some kind of foundational thing.
- 00:12:22.932 --> 00:12:24.800
- That's why you see videos now of these young kids, and they're
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- Crying in their car, and they're posting it on social media, and
- 00:12:27.837 --> 00:12:30.873
- You're like what's wrong with these kids?
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- Why didn't their parents beat 'em?
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- You know, like what's going on here?
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- I mean, yeah, you know, i'm happy god spanked--i mean my
- 00:12:36.846 --> 00:12:39.849
- Dad spanked me.
- 00:12:39.849 --> 00:12:41.217
- God spanked me a few times, too, but yeah, it's like, you know,
- 00:12:41.217 --> 00:12:43.652
- What's going on in our world?
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- And i look at it, and i go, people have just--they're not
- 00:12:46.589 --> 00:12:49.625
- Holding on to anything of any substance, and we've not offered
- 00:12:49.625 --> 00:12:53.863
- Them anything of any substance.
- 00:12:53.863 --> 00:12:55.664
- And so, if you keep floating through the world waiting on the
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- World to happen to you, it's not gonna be happy, not gonna
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- Be happy.
- 00:13:05.474 --> 00:13:06.809
- Blynda: or if you keep waiting even for the validation from
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- The world.
- 00:13:08.744 --> 00:13:10.079
- Chad: it's never gonna give it to you.
- 00:13:10.079 --> 00:13:11.447
- Blynda: it's never going to give it.
- 00:13:11.447 --> 00:13:12.781
- You're never going to be satisfied.
- 00:13:12.781 --> 00:13:14.149
- Chad: and the validation it gives you is going to be false.
- 00:13:14.149 --> 00:13:15.751
- It's going to put a false identity on you.
- 00:13:15.751 --> 00:13:17.086
- So, one of the biggest messages that i like to put out there is
- 00:13:17.086 --> 00:13:20.356
- We used to receive an identity from our history or our lineage
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- Or our our name, now we're out creating identities.
- 00:13:25.628 --> 00:13:29.531
- And so not only are we losing these identities that god's
- 00:13:29.531 --> 00:13:32.968
- Trying to chisel off of us, we're trying to hold on to.
- 00:13:32.968 --> 00:13:35.571
- I wrote another book called "am i crazy?"
- 00:13:35.571 --> 00:13:37.406
- The answer to that is yes.
- 00:13:37.406 --> 00:13:38.908
- And in the intro to that book, i said social media has given us
- 00:13:38.908 --> 00:13:41.977
- Two problems, people on social media think that they're
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- Experts, and they think they're famous, and they're neither one,
- 00:13:44.914 --> 00:13:49.151
- But yet they come from--because they've got this big platform
- 00:13:49.151 --> 00:13:52.021
- That they didn't earn, and they want to talk like
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- They're experts.
- 00:13:54.623 --> 00:13:55.991
- I mean, we've been experts on every geopolitical thing that's
- 00:13:55.991 --> 00:13:58.127
- Happened in the last ten years.
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- We know more about--and everybody's an expert.
- 00:13:59.495 --> 00:14:02.064
- Next week we'll be experts on something else.
- 00:14:02.064 --> 00:14:04.466
- And that in and of itself is feeding into a false identity
- 00:14:04.466 --> 00:14:10.005
- That is going to lead you to destruction.
- 00:14:10.005 --> 00:14:12.441
- Eventually that frustration is going to find its fruit, and
- 00:14:12.441 --> 00:14:14.877
- That's not going to be a happy place.
- 00:14:14.877 --> 00:14:16.512
- Randy: so when you identified as, you know, the guy everybody
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- Knew with the cowboy hat, you know, and the guy that had
- 00:14:19.715 --> 00:14:21.650
- Sponsors and the guy that was writing a sitcom in hollywood,
- 00:14:21.650 --> 00:14:25.888
- Were you happy?
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- Chad: i was not.
- 00:14:27.723 --> 00:14:29.091
- I was fascinated by it.
- 00:14:29.091 --> 00:14:30.426
- I was--the way that you look at something shiny and you go,
- 00:14:30.426 --> 00:14:33.362
- Well, that's cool to look at.
- 00:14:33.362 --> 00:14:34.730
- Let's turn it and look at the light through it this way.
- 00:14:34.730 --> 00:14:37.266
- You know, i'm sitting there going--i'm having breakfast one
- 00:14:37.266 --> 00:14:41.437
- Morning at the four seasons, and i look over and there's tom
- 00:14:41.437 --> 00:14:44.974
- Cruise, and there's tom hanks, and there's john cena, and i'm
- 00:14:44.974 --> 00:14:48.711
- Looking around, i'm like, and i'm sitting in the middle of
- 00:14:48.711 --> 00:14:50.512
- Having this meeting with all these different guys, and i go i
- 00:14:50.512 --> 00:14:54.450
- Don't want this.
- 00:14:54.450 --> 00:14:55.818
- Like, this is not me.
- 00:14:55.818 --> 00:14:57.152
- I don't want this world.
- 00:14:57.152 --> 00:14:58.487
- This is not my world.
- 00:14:58.487 --> 00:14:59.855
- And they're like, oh, you know, they're rolling out the
- 00:14:59.855 --> 00:15:01.190
- Red carpet.
- 00:15:01.190 --> 00:15:02.558
- I said there's something in there that's very empty,
- 00:15:02.558 --> 00:15:03.892
- Something very fruitless.
- 00:15:03.892 --> 00:15:05.260
- They wanted me to move to california, and i was like under
- 00:15:05.260 --> 00:15:06.929
- No circumstances.
- 00:15:06.929 --> 00:15:08.297
- I have not seen that pillar of fire by night, no way.
- 00:15:08.297 --> 00:15:11.700
- Randy: so, now that you're doing devotionals and praying with
- 00:15:11.700 --> 00:15:14.436
- People online, are you happy?
- 00:15:14.436 --> 00:15:18.173
- Chad: the thing that makes me happy is not the spiritual
- 00:15:18.173 --> 00:15:21.276
- Activity of it, although it is the highlight of my day to be
- 00:15:21.276 --> 00:15:24.246
- Able to do it.
- 00:15:24.246 --> 00:15:25.614
- I enjoy doing it because the lord speaks to me as i hope he's
- 00:15:25.614 --> 00:15:28.317
- Speaking through me.
- 00:15:28.317 --> 00:15:29.651
- The joy that i have is the response.
- 00:15:29.651 --> 00:15:32.388
- That's the thing.
- 00:15:32.388 --> 00:15:33.722
- I'm seeing men, men are sending me messages through our "before
- 00:15:33.722 --> 00:15:37.359
- The noise" website.
- 00:15:37.359 --> 00:15:38.894
- They're sending me emails, they come directly to me, and they're
- 00:15:38.894 --> 00:15:42.064
- Finding the lord, they're finding their marriage, they're
- 00:15:42.064 --> 00:15:45.534
- Finding their fatherhood, they're finding forgiveness.
- 00:15:45.534 --> 00:15:49.471
- One of the big things that we talk about in "born for meaning"
- 00:15:49.471 --> 00:15:52.875
- Is this idea of unforgiveness, and that is one of the biggest
- 00:15:52.875 --> 00:15:57.846
- Things that feeds the grief that we live in, and the trauma is
- 00:15:57.846 --> 00:16:01.417
- Not letting go of that dead thing in your life.
- 00:16:01.417 --> 00:16:05.054
- And so it's hard to let go of resentment and bitterness.
- 00:16:05.054 --> 00:16:08.624
- And as the writer of hebrews, again, says, it's that--it's
- 00:16:08.624 --> 00:16:11.493
- Gonna spring up, and it's gonna poison a lot of people.
- 00:16:11.493 --> 00:16:14.396
- It defiles a lot of people, that root of bitterness.
- 00:16:14.396 --> 00:16:17.766
- But getting the fruit that comes out of that and seeing something
- 00:16:17.766 --> 00:16:23.138
- That when there was a pastoral title in front of my name or a
- 00:16:23.138 --> 00:16:26.742
- Shingle outside of an office at a church, the fruit coming out
- 00:16:26.742 --> 00:16:30.245
- Of this, us just being real about, hey, it's okay to be
- 00:16:30.245 --> 00:16:34.883
- Broken, it's okay to hurt, it's okay to be traumatized, it's not
- 00:16:34.883 --> 00:16:38.554
- Okay to keep carrying it around in victimhood and navel
- 00:16:38.554 --> 00:16:41.023
- Gazing, right?
- 00:16:41.023 --> 00:16:42.424
- Feeling sorry for ourselves, but at the end of the day it's okay
- 00:16:42.424 --> 00:16:45.394
- To be real, it's okay to be broken, and god can use that.
- 00:16:45.394 --> 00:16:48.964
- And if anyone, anyone's listening to this program and
- 00:16:48.964 --> 00:16:51.934
- They think, oh, i'm too far gone, and god, i can't
- 00:16:51.934 --> 00:16:54.403
- Come back.
- 00:16:54.403 --> 00:16:56.004
- I've been too far gone from failure, and i've been too far
- 00:16:56.004 --> 00:16:59.808
- Gone with success.
- 00:16:59.808 --> 00:17:01.276
- And as rudyard kipling says, you can take triumph and disaster
- 00:17:01.276 --> 00:17:04.379
- And teach--and treat those two impostors just the same.
- 00:17:04.379 --> 00:17:07.516
- They really are, and i've been-- i've lived out both of them.
- 00:17:07.516 --> 00:17:10.519
- I've been broken by success, i've been broken by failure, but
- 00:17:10.519 --> 00:17:13.789
- The lord is gracious to keep bringing us back in spite
- 00:17:13.789 --> 00:17:16.625
- Of ourselves.
- 00:17:16.625 --> 00:17:17.960
- Randy: wow, there's the meaning.
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- Chad: yeah.
- 00:17:19.328 --> 00:17:20.662
- Randy: yeah, that you're born for.
- 00:17:20.662 --> 00:17:22.564
- Randy: i love it, oh, wow, okay.
- 00:17:22.564 --> 00:17:24.133
- Some of you are really relating to this right now.
- 00:17:24.133 --> 00:17:27.436
- Obviously, chad's book it might be a great resource for you.
- 00:17:27.436 --> 00:17:29.805
- Pick it up wherever you get books, but if you want someone
- 00:17:29.805 --> 00:17:31.440
- To just get on the phone and talk, pray, whatever, we've got
- 00:17:31.440 --> 00:17:35.644
- People that are standing by that would love to do that, that will
- 00:17:35.644 --> 00:17:38.680
- Graciously say, yeah, come back, don't worry about the success
- 00:17:38.680 --> 00:17:42.451
- That you think you have or the failure that you're feeling, as
- 00:17:42.451 --> 00:17:44.987
- Chad talks about.
- 00:17:44.987 --> 00:17:47.022
- Just come on back to the father, come on back to that meaning
- 00:17:47.022 --> 00:17:49.825
- That you were born for.
- 00:17:49.825 --> 00:17:51.160
- And like chad says, it's expressing god's love to other
- 00:17:51.160 --> 00:17:54.196
- People and reaping those spiritual rewards, laying up
- 00:17:54.196 --> 00:17:57.299
- Those treasures in heaven.
- 00:17:57.299 --> 00:17:59.168
- So, again, if you want someone to just to pray with you right
- 00:17:59.168 --> 00:18:02.404
- Now, please call.
- 00:18:02.404 --> 00:18:04.506
- We have another opportunity where we are laying up treasure
- 00:18:04.506 --> 00:18:07.843
- In heaven.
- 00:18:07.843 --> 00:18:09.211
- It is expressing god's love in word and in deed.
- 00:18:09.211 --> 00:18:13.248
- And this is a pretty specific deed, and there are a lot of
- 00:18:13.248 --> 00:18:16.418
- Great partners that are waiting right now over in africa who are
- 00:18:16.418 --> 00:18:20.756
- Blessing children with free surgeries for things that
- 00:18:20.756 --> 00:18:24.927
- Radically change their lives.
- 00:18:24.927 --> 00:18:27.729
- Take a look at this, and i want you to consider being a part of
- 00:18:27.729 --> 00:18:30.365
- This beautiful outreach of god's love.
- 00:18:30.365 --> 00:18:32.935
- John yeatts: i had the privilege of visiting one of the hospitals
- 00:18:34.937 --> 00:18:37.372
- Of our medical mission partners in africa.
- 00:18:37.372 --> 00:18:40.409
- While there, i met some of their staff who were making
- 00:18:40.409 --> 00:18:42.978
- Their rounds.
- 00:18:42.978 --> 00:18:44.580
- A meaningful time for me was being with some of the families
- 00:18:44.580 --> 00:18:47.683
- And their children who were recovering from surgery.
- 00:18:47.683 --> 00:18:51.520
- Each and every day their medical staff see children who are born
- 00:18:51.520 --> 00:18:54.623
- With serious physical conditions.
- 00:18:54.623 --> 00:18:57.492
- Many have never been able to walk normally because of having
- 00:18:57.492 --> 00:19:01.430
- Club feet or windswept legs or bowed legs.
- 00:19:01.430 --> 00:19:05.467
- Other conditions they see range from cleft lip, cleft palate,
- 00:19:05.467 --> 00:19:10.339
- Childhood injuries that impact bone growth and
- 00:19:10.339 --> 00:19:13.208
- Physical appearances.
- 00:19:13.208 --> 00:19:15.444
- If not corrected in time, these children are destined to lead a
- 00:19:15.444 --> 00:19:18.547
- Life of misery and suffering, but that's where these gifted
- 00:19:18.547 --> 00:19:23.485
- Surgeons step in in a very unique way.
- 00:19:23.485 --> 00:19:26.788
- Joseph theuri: and that's why even as medical people, we
- 00:19:26.788 --> 00:19:29.391
- Really have to depend on him.
- 00:19:29.391 --> 00:19:30.892
- We have to pray for them who are the patients.
- 00:19:30.892 --> 00:19:33.629
- Pray for them when we are doing the operations.
- 00:19:33.629 --> 00:19:36.164
- Just because we know that we are just the hands of someone who is
- 00:19:36.164 --> 00:19:40.669
- Actually doing the work.
- 00:19:40.669 --> 00:19:42.037
- You're just doing that small part, and then god does
- 00:19:42.037 --> 00:19:46.008
- The rest.
- 00:19:46.008 --> 00:19:48.010
- John: it is wonderful seeing children walk and run and play
- 00:19:48.010 --> 00:19:51.380
- With smiles and laughter in ways they never could before.
- 00:19:51.380 --> 00:19:55.617
- I invite you to join us in supporting life's medical
- 00:19:55.617 --> 00:19:58.687
- Missions outreach with your prayers, your love, and your
- 00:19:58.687 --> 00:20:03.292
- Financial support so that even more children can experience
- 00:20:03.292 --> 00:20:07.195
- Healing, hope, and lasting change.
- 00:20:07.195 --> 00:20:10.732
- Randy: when you are generous to the poor, you lend, you partner
- 00:20:13.468 --> 00:20:18.006
- With god.
- 00:20:18.006 --> 00:20:19.341
- Will you partner with us as we partner with god?
- 00:20:19.341 --> 00:20:23.145
- I hope you will, do it today, do it now.
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- Announcer: many children in africa are born with severe
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- Deformities or suffer life-altering injuries,
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- Conditions like club feet, windswept legs, and untreated
- 00:20:32.254 --> 00:20:35.691
- Fractures force them to live in pain because help is out
- 00:20:35.691 --> 00:20:39.127
- Of reach.
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- But you can offer healing today.
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- Our mission partner in zimbabwe runs a children's hospital now
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- At capacity and in urgent need of renovation and expansion.
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- With a $600,000 goal and only a short period of time to raise
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- The necessary funds, your best gift today helps children
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- Randy: we're wrapping up this campaign on the air, so i really
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- Want to hear from you.
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- This is last week you'll see it, so please, if you can do
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- Whatever you can do, be a part of this beautiful outreach.
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- And if you can't do something today, but you're planning on
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- Being a part of this outreach, give us a call, let us know,
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- We'd love to hear from you.
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- I've been blessed, this has been great, two great programs.
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- Blynda: two great programs, but i feel like i could keep
- 00:22:17.492 --> 00:22:19.694
- Asking questions.
- 00:22:19.694 --> 00:22:21.062
- And so if i have questions, i know the audience has
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- Questions too.
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- So if they want the book to get all of their questions answered,
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- Where can they go to get the book?
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- Chad: chadprather.com, you can find everything, even the things
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- You're not looking for, it's over there.
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- And to get directly to the book, you can go
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- To bornformeaning.com.
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- Randy: excellent, i know i'm hoping a lot of people will join
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- With you in the morning for the prayer, the devotional that
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- You're doing online.
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- I think it's great that you're doing it.
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- Chad: i love doing it.
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- Randy: and i appreciate you spending time with us.
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- Chad: thank you for having me.
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- Randy: absolutely, appreciate you guys spending time with us.
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- If you missed the other program with chad, lifetoday.org.
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- Come back, we'll see you again next time.
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- James: you've written this i'd say out of an extended journey
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- That's allowed you to see some things, witness some things,
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- Feel and experience some things that have kind of taken you in a
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- Direction that's real important.
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- So, tell us about "all things new."
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- John eldredge: we've spent a lot of our ministry years healing
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- People at the level of their heart.
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- We went after men's hearts, then we went after women's hearts in
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- "captivating" with my wife, stacy.
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- And we do conferences, here in the u.s., around the world.
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- It's all around healing, woundedness, brokenness.
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- Isaiah 61, "i've come to heal the brokenness in humanity and i
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- Want to set you free."
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- But after you spend a lot of time deep in people's stories,
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- You really have to speak to the loss.
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- Because some things in this life just aren't recovered.
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- So, i was reading through the gospels.
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- I was in matthew chapter 19.
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- And peter asked jesus a pretty straightforward question.
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- He says, "look, this has cost us quite a bit to follow you.
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- What's in it for us?
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- Like, what will there be for us?"
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- And jesus, he doesn't rebuke the question.
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- He smiles and he says, "oh, i tell you the truth.
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- At the renewal of all things, when the son of man sits on his
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- Glorious throne, you," and then he gets very particular, "who
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- Have lost relationships, loved ones."
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- He even names houses and lands, careers, all your dreams, all
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- Those things you had to let go of.
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- It will specifically be restored to you in addition to, he says,
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- Eternal life.
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- Now, most people think that whatever the next chapter of the
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- Story is, it's this vague thing in heaven, right?
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- It's harps, halos, or it's the eternal church service in the
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- Sky, right?
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- We all just we all go up to heaven and we sing forever,
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- Right?
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- James: but like you point out, if it's like church services,
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- Most people, they don't wanna go.
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- John: they don't wanna go.
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- But the the key to the human heart is this.
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- C.s. lewis says, "you can only hope for what you desire."
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- And so if it's vague, if it's a little creepy religious, it does
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- Not bring hope, no matter how much you try and, you know,
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- Breathe into it.
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- And when jesus promises the restoration of all things.
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- You know, so i'm flipping through the scriptures.
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- Peter picks up the theme in acts.
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- In acts chapter 3 he says, "jesus must remain in heaven
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- Until the time comes for god to restore everything."
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- And then the whole thing swells to a crescendo in revelation,
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- Right?
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- End of the book, chapter 21, he who is seated on the throne
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- Says, "i am making everything new."
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- He does not say, "i'm making all new things," right?
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- He restores the earth.
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- He restores our lives.
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- There is nothing that can be taken from you that god will not
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- Personally and intimately restore.
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- And this is the hope that hebrews calls
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- The anchor of the soul.
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- This is the hope of the christian life, that you--it was
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- What the early church--they couldn't understand the courage
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- Of the early church.
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- And they said, "what are you gonna do?
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- Kill us? like, we don't die.
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- You can't--there's nothing you can take away from me that god
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- Is not going to restore, so have at it," right?
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- It threw the world, right, because these people had a grasp
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- On the coming kingdom.
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