Jen Lilley - Encountering Jesus

May 1, 2026 | 27:29

An actor and author of “Wake Up Your Faith” shares her personal journey with the Holy Spirit as she encourages you to grow in a deeper, more meaningful relationship with Him.

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Life Today with James Robison | Jen Lilley - Encountering Jesus | May 1, 2026
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  • Male announcer: the following program is sponsored by friends
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  • Of life outreach international and the friends
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  • And partners of tbn.
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  • Announcer: coming up, film and tv actress jen lilley.
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  • Jen lilley: jesus says, "many will come to me in that day, and
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  • They will say, 'lord, lord, did we not prophesy in your name?
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  • Did we not do many mighty works in your name?'"
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  • And he says, "and i will look at them, and i will say, 'depart
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  • From me, you workers of lawlessness.
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  • I never knew you.'"
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  • Obviously they had some walk of faith, but somewhere along the
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  • Line, they got so caught up in the power in the name of jesus
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  • That they missed him.
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  • [music]
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  • Randy robison: welcome to "life today."
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  • I'm randy robison. this is blynda lane.
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  • Blynda lane: hello, randy, i'm kind of laughing because
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  • I'm thinking about when i have--
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  • Todd, my husband, when i tell him i'm gonna watch a
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  • Hallmark movie, he says, "you go do that."
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  • And in some way i feel like, because we have jen lilley with
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  • Us from hallmark, i do feel like it's like, "randy, you can come
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  • Along in this conversation."
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  • Jen: yeah, you're invited.
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  • Blynda: you're invited.
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  • But also, we might talk about some hallmark things.
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  • No, we're not gonna talk about that too much.
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  • Not too much.
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  • Jen: we'll talk about better than hallmark, jesus.
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  • Blynda: i'm so glad that you're here today.
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  • When i found out you were coming, i'm like, "this is gonna
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  • Be so fun," because not only are we gonna connect about just your
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  • Fun life, you have an amazing devotional that you've released
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  • Called "wake up your faith."
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  • Jen: thank you.
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  • Blynda: tell me, how did you even come up with wanting to
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  • Give the message that we need to wake up our faith?
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  • Jen: sure, well, it's a funny story because broadstreet, my
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  • Publishers, they're amazing, and suzanne niles, i met her at the
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  • Movie guide awards, which is kind of like the christian
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  • Oscars, i guess.
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  • And she said she saw me and the holy spirit said, "book," and so
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  • She beelined it to me.
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  • And suzanne is one of those people, i hope i grow up to be
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  • Like her.
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  • She's so filled with the holy spirit and she's also beautiful
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  • That it's almost like, i imagine this is what moses's face must
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  • Have looked like.
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  • Like, she glows.
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  • Like, you can feel the holy spirit on her.
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  • But she was like, "you know, i work for broadstreet publishing
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  • And i think that you're supposed to write a devotional.
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  • The holy spirit told me that," and i'm thinking, "well, i hear
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  • A lot from the holy spirit and i don't think so," but i just kind
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  • Of smiled and nodded and thought, you know, "i don't know
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  • Who you think i am that i should be writing a devotional."
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  • And i prayed about it, and right before i was going into the
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  • Meeting with broadstreet, fully planning on saying no, i did
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  • Some research and i was like, "oh, they've published books
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  • With john bevere, who i love, and heidi baker, who i love.
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  • So i guess they like the holy spirit, because i love the
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  • Holy spirit."
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  • I get on the zoom meeting and i said, "hey, guys.
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  • Gosh, i don't know where to go here because i was fully
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  • Prepared to say to you, 'i don't like devotionals.
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  • I don't read devotionals.
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  • Frankly, i think devotionals are often a crutch for people not
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  • Reading the word of god, and i do not want any part of that,
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  • Because i can't do more for you than the word of god.
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  • And lastly, i will not not talk about the holy spirit, because
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  • He's my best friend.'"
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  • And broadstreet was so wonderful.
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  • They said--well, they started laughing and they said, "well,
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  • That's why we think you should write a devotional."
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  • And so i said, "well, tell me how it works."
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  • I fasted and prayed about it three more days.
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  • And in that time i was like, "well, holy spirit, like, what
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  • Do you--like, what am i supposed to say?
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  • What do you want me to write about?
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  • I don't even read devotionals.
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  • I don't know how to do this."
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  • And so he really brought me into the passion of wanting to wake
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  • Up his bride.
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  • I mean, my favorite verse in the whole bible, and i will laugh if
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  • Anyone ever says it's their same passage, it's not one you're
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  • Gonna ever see on a pillow or a poster, is matthew 7:21-23,
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  • Technically 22 through 23.
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  • It's the judgment day, and it says, jesus says, "many will
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  • Come to me in that day, and they will say, 'lord, lord, do we not
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  • Prophesy in your name?
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  • Do we not heal the sick in your name?
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  • Do we not do many mighty works in your name?'"
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  • And he says, "and i will look at them, and i will say, 'depart
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  • From me, you workers of lawlessness.
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  • I never knew you.'"
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  • That verse, the reason i love it so much is because it keeps you
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  • So focused on jesus, because obviously they had some walk
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  • Of faith.
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  • They invoked the name of jesus, which is the highest name above
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  • All names.
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  • It has power.
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  • But somewhere along the line, they got so caught up in the
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  • Power in the name of jesus that they missed him.
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  • And that's why i think in 1 corinthians, you know, the love
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  • Chapter, we've heard it at every single wedding, whether they're
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  • A believer or not, it seems that people know that, you
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  • Know, scripture.
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  • But 1 corinthians 13, it's like, "i can know all things.
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  • I can fathom all mysteries," you know, and on and on and on, "but
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  • If i don't have love, i have nothing."
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  • And so this book is hopefully to wake up people's faith, you
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  • Know, i think of it as like ezekiel in the desert with the
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  • Dry bones.
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  • It's like, god wants to breathe life back into us.
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  • He wants to revive us.
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  • Like, it is time as a church to rise up and be the bride of
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  • Christ, know what the word of god says.
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  • Like, ask the holy spirit, "what are you saying?
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  • What are you doing, lord?
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  • How can i be part of it?"
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  • Like, jesus is alive and well, and we don't--i just don't want
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  • Us to miss the mark.
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  • And, you know, all of us have been through dry spells before,
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  • But like, this is a book that i really feel the holy spirit
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  • Wrote through me.
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  • When i read it, i weep, because i'm like, i don't--i don't have
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  • This knowledge.
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  • This is from the holy spirit.
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  • And it moves my heart, because it is so much scripture.
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  • I mean, it's just--it's like an espresso shot of scripture.
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  • But i hope that people use it either as an appetizer to
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  • Reading the word of god, i hope it centers them into the holy
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  • Spirit, so that the holy spirit can guide them through the word
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  • Of god, or they read it after they read the bible, for like
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  • A takeaway.
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  • Appetizer or dessert, like, that's it.
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  • Blynda: and i love that you're saying, still stay in the word
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  • Of god, but use this as a help.
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  • Jen: oh my gosh, yes.
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  • Blynda: so we talked earlier, we kind of joked in the
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  • Introduction that you've been on hallmark movies and you're an
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  • Actress in hollywood and you've--this is your profession,
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  • Yet some might be surprised, as they're watching, that you have
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  • Such a profound walk with the lord.
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  • What was your journey to be where you are today, and how
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  • Does that combine with the profession that you chose?
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  • Jen: i have a distinct memory of being seven years old, riding my
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  • Bike and saying to the lord in my mind, like, "i don't know if
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  • I believe in you," and hearing holy spirit say, "that's okay,"
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  • Because god's like so in control.
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  • It's like i heard it back and just kept going.
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  • Two years later, we were awkwardly church shopping, as
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  • Many people have done, and we ended up going to this
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  • Episcopalian church, and it was called church of the
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  • Holy spirit.
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  • It's still there, it's amazing.
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  • And i remember going in, and it was like, they had live
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  • Musicians and they had worship, and i think that it felt very
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  • Lively as a nine year old, and i was like, "this is kind
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  • Of cool."
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  • And so i loved the worship, and then we got dismissed to sunday
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  • School, and i think this is so amazing because for parents, and
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  • I am one, kids absorb so much more than we realize.
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  • For sunday schools teachers, like, you're not missing it by
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  • Being in the back.
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  • And i was nine years old, and they told the story of elijah
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  • And the widow with the oil and the flour.
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  • And i remember being nine years old, and i had grown up
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  • With religion class every day, you know, i was catholic.
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  • And i was like, "wait a second, hold the phone."
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  • Like, i thought, like, jesus and his twelve disciples, and then
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  • Moses, as like the bookends of the biblical faith.
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  • Like, i thought they operated in miracles.
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  • Who is this guy in 1 and 2 kings that suddenly has the holy
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  • Spirit and is like--you know, how is he multiplying food like
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  • The fishes and loaves?
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  • So i ended up going home, getting out my first communion
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  • Bible with a yellow crayola crayon, and i read the entire
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  • Bible cover to cover, as a nine year old.
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  • And i would use the crayon like as my highlighter, you know, to
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  • Mark where i had read.
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  • So i've been passionate about the lord since i was nine, but i
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  • Mean, i've had struggles.
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  • You know, i had an eating disorder for 15 years, even
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  • Though i knew jesus.
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  • But when i was in college, i discovered acting, especially
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  • Acting for film, because i'm stage fright, which is weird,
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  • But i'm not afraid of the camera.
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  • And i really felt the holy spirit call me into acting, so
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  • That's how i got into it.
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  • And then being a christian in hollywood is really amazing,
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  • Because, you know, when other actors, or like aspiring young
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  • Actors, especially christians, are like, "i want to be
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  • An actress.
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  • How do you do it?"
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  • I'm always like, "hang on.
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  • Why do you want to be an actor?"
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  • Like, do you wanna be famous?
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  • Because if you want to be famous, you're gonna get
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  • Eaten alive.
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  • Like, this is a dark space.
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  • Like, you will get rejected for a living.
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  • You're gonna get no 99.9% of the time.
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  • You're gonna get a personal rejection of, "no, you're not
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  • Good enough for this role."
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  • So you'd better know whose you are before you go in there.
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  • And--but i have a heart for artists and, like,
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  • Telling stories.
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  • I have a heart for the audience, but i also have a heart, such a
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  • Deep heart, for the artists and the actors who have been told,
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  • Like, their worth is in storytelling.
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  • And they have all this hidden sin, that they think they're too
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  • Deep, they're too far gone.
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  • They've been sold a lie that they can never get out.
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  • Randy: "the people of lawlessness," that's a reference
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  • To the the jewish people who rejected christ because they had
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  • The truth of the old covenant, right?
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  • They had the promises, but they didn't have the relationship,
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  • Because they didn't recognize christ as the messiah.
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  • And i think we do that.
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  • And again, catholic, protestant, or just "spiritual," which you
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  • See a lot of in hollywood.
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  • Was there a moment, or was there a process, maybe, where you
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  • Realized, okay, this is not about a church necessarily, or
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  • Not about--even about a book.
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  • It's about a living faith, it's a relationship, through the holy
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  • Spirit with god.
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  • Is that like a realization you had, or is that just over time,
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  • Sort of a growth?
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  • Jen: i always knew that faith was about having a personal
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  • Relationship with god, because the holy spirit did speak to me
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  • As i read my bible, you know?
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  • And it's like, if somebody says like they read the bible and
  • 00:10:28.807 --> 00:10:30.742
  • They don't understand it, it's like, always learn to pray to
  • 00:10:30.742 --> 00:10:32.977
  • The holy spirit and say, like, "would you help me understand
  • 00:10:32.977 --> 00:10:35.213
  • What i'm reading here?"
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  • Randy: that's what he is, a helper.
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  • "he will lead you into all truth," the scripture says.
  • 00:10:38.149 --> 00:10:39.517
  • Jen: and then it's like--so i do think that the bible, you know,
  • 00:10:39.517 --> 00:10:42.220
  • It's like a--it's the sword, right?
  • 00:10:42.220 --> 00:10:44.189
  • I mean, it can cut, it can wound.
  • 00:10:44.189 --> 00:10:46.357
  • I mean, and that's what the devil does, right?
  • 00:10:46.357 --> 00:10:47.792
  • Like, he always tricks us by using scripture and
  • 00:10:47.792 --> 00:10:51.763
  • Masquerading it.
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  • Like, when we're believers, he uses scripture against us.
  • 00:10:53.098 --> 00:10:55.734
  • He did that to jesus in the desert.
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  • He did it to peter, you know?
  • 00:10:58.236 --> 00:11:00.338
  • Like, "lord, let it not be so that you would be crucified,"
  • 00:11:00.338 --> 00:11:02.540
  • And jesus turns to him, right?
  • 00:11:02.540 --> 00:11:04.042
  • "get behind me, satan."
  • 00:11:04.042 --> 00:11:05.376
  • But then jesus goes on and he says, "for you have set your
  • 00:11:05.376 --> 00:11:07.345
  • Mind on the things of man and not on the things of god."
  • 00:11:07.345 --> 00:11:10.281
  • Like, we do that as christians.
  • 00:11:10.281 --> 00:11:11.916
  • So i always knew it was about relationship.
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  • But with my, i mean, with getting set free from my eating
  • 00:11:16.588 --> 00:11:19.858
  • Disorder, it was a realization that my pastor--gosh, it's
  • 00:11:19.858 --> 00:11:25.063
  • So amazing.
  • 00:11:25.063 --> 00:11:26.431
  • My pastor in la, jake sweetman, he's like, that wasn't
  • 00:11:26.431 --> 00:11:29.100
  • Even the message, but you know, when the word of god hits you,
  • 00:11:29.100 --> 00:11:32.737
  • It rightly divides, and it hits you so deep, no matter what his
  • 00:11:32.737 --> 00:11:35.673
  • Message was actually on.
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  • He said, "the best definition i can come up with for sin is
  • 00:11:37.275 --> 00:11:40.578
  • Trusting in anything more than i trust god."
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  • Blynda: wow, that's good.
  • 00:11:43.148 --> 00:11:44.516
  • Jen: oh, it's so good.
  • 00:11:44.516 --> 00:11:45.850
  • And you know what?
  • 00:11:45.850 --> 00:11:47.218
  • Romans 14:23 actually says that, "anything that is not preceded
  • 00:11:47.218 --> 00:11:49.587
  • By trust is sin."
  • 00:11:49.587 --> 00:11:51.990
  • When you, as a christian, be--you know, come to the
  • 00:11:51.990 --> 00:11:54.559
  • Understanding that anything that you trust more than god is sin,
  • 00:11:54.559 --> 00:11:58.596
  • It's like it opens up the can of worms in your heart for all the
  • 00:11:58.596 --> 00:12:02.200
  • Hidden things that, like, you believe these lies.
  • 00:12:02.200 --> 00:12:04.803
  • I believed the lie, that's half-truth, and this is what
  • 00:12:04.803 --> 00:12:07.438
  • Satan does to every believer.
  • 00:12:07.438 --> 00:12:09.040
  • I believed this lie.
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  • "i got myself into this eating disorder, so i deserve the
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  • Consequences of it."
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  • That's true.
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  • I do deserve the consequences of it.
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  • You deserve the consequences of your sin.
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  • You deserve the consequences of my sin.
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  • I deserve the consequences of my sin.
  • 00:12:21.619 --> 00:12:23.321
  • Like, we deserve death, but jesus paid our debt.
  • 00:12:23.321 --> 00:12:27.692
  • So satan always comes in shame cycles, and he often uses the
  • 00:12:27.692 --> 00:12:31.229
  • Word of god to keep us bound.
  • 00:12:31.229 --> 00:12:34.265
  • Randy: and also that, "i got myself in it.
  • 00:12:34.265 --> 00:12:36.134
  • I gotta get myself out of it."
  • 00:12:36.134 --> 00:12:37.502
  • Jen: and you think you can get yourself, like, cleaned up, and
  • 00:12:37.502 --> 00:12:39.838
  • It's like, i knew god knew.
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  • I'd have believed he would heal everybody except me, because i
  • 00:12:41.673 --> 00:12:44.943
  • Deserved it.
  • 00:12:44.943 --> 00:12:46.578
  • So i mean it's like--
  • 00:12:46.578 --> 00:12:47.946
  • Blynda: like your sin was worse than somebody else's.
  • 00:12:47.946 --> 00:12:49.714
  • Jen: yeah, because, like, i know better and i know my worth, and
  • 00:12:49.714 --> 00:12:52.350
  • Yet i still choose this, and it's just like, it's the
  • 00:12:52.350 --> 00:12:55.587
  • Same trick.
  • 00:12:55.587 --> 00:12:57.088
  • Addiction is addiction is addiction is addiction.
  • 00:12:57.088 --> 00:12:59.324
  • Hidden sin is hidden sin, and why do people not come clean?
  • 00:12:59.324 --> 00:13:02.627
  • It's the same thing with adam and eve in the garden.
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  • God never came down and condemned them.
  • 00:13:04.662 --> 00:13:07.799
  • He actually said, "where are you?
  • 00:13:07.799 --> 00:13:10.568
  • Why are you hiding?"
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  • He didn't say, "i know what you did," but he knew what they did.
  • 00:13:12.103 --> 00:13:14.239
  • He gave them an opportunity, like, do you wanna--
  • 00:13:14.239 --> 00:13:16.441
  • Blynda: "who told you you were naked?"
  • 00:13:16.441 --> 00:13:17.775
  • Jen: "who told you you were naked?"
  • 00:13:17.775 --> 00:13:19.143
  • He was giving them an opportunity to say, "would
  • 00:13:19.143 --> 00:13:20.845
  • You confess?
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  • Would you come?
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  • Would you--let's take a walk in the garden."
  • 00:13:23.548 --> 00:13:24.916
  • Who knows what would have happened if they had chosen
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  • Faith and trust in their relationship with the lord?
  • 00:13:27.886 --> 00:13:31.422
  • But instead they chose their shame and fear, and
  • 00:13:31.422 --> 00:13:33.758
  • Hid themselves.
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  • And we do that.
  • 00:13:35.093 --> 00:13:36.895
  • Blynda: don't you find--i was reading, and i'm gonna say this
  • 00:13:36.895 --> 00:13:40.598
  • Quote because i thought it was so good, that so much of why we
  • 00:13:40.598 --> 00:13:43.935
  • Do that, though, is because the enemy, i mean, there is a
  • 00:13:43.935 --> 00:13:46.304
  • Warfare going on.
  • 00:13:46.304 --> 00:13:48.006
  • Jen: constant warfare.
  • 00:13:48.006 --> 00:13:49.340
  • Blynda: constant.
  • 00:13:49.340 --> 00:13:50.708
  • You even say this, "in spiritual warfare, it's not just the big
  • 00:13:50.708 --> 00:13:53.077
  • Attacks that we need to watch out for, but the subtle hidden
  • 00:13:53.077 --> 00:13:56.080
  • Influences that can infiltrate our lives.
  • 00:13:56.080 --> 00:13:58.616
  • Satan often gains access through seemingly
  • 00:13:58.616 --> 00:14:01.686
  • Insignificant compromises."
  • 00:14:01.686 --> 00:14:03.922
  • Jen: he also comes with "i" statements.
  • 00:14:03.922 --> 00:14:05.990
  • So we have three voices that speak to us.
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  • We have our own self.
  • 00:14:07.959 --> 00:14:09.560
  • We have the holy spirit.
  • 00:14:09.560 --> 00:14:11.029
  • And we have, you know, elemental spirits of the world,
  • 00:14:11.029 --> 00:14:13.264
  • The demonic.
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  • And they come in "i" statements.
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  • I was going to do deliverance, actually, if i'm being
  • 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:19.137
  • Transparent, and i felt called by the lord to do it.
  • 00:14:19.137 --> 00:14:22.540
  • And as i was driving down the road to go do this assignment
  • 00:14:22.540 --> 00:14:25.777
  • That the lord had clearly laid on my heart, because i was
  • 00:14:25.777 --> 00:14:27.879
  • Obeying the law of love, i heard what presented as the holy
  • 00:14:27.879 --> 00:14:31.883
  • Spirit say, "i don't need you to do this."
  • 00:14:31.883 --> 00:14:36.254
  • But it was kind of like--it was a little bit aggressive, like,
  • 00:14:36.254 --> 00:14:40.191
  • "i don't need you to do this."
  • 00:14:40.191 --> 00:14:41.526
  • Like, "i've got this, stop trying to control it."
  • 00:14:41.526 --> 00:14:43.027
  • And i thought, "well, that's weird.
  • 00:14:43.027 --> 00:14:44.362
  • I'm not trying to control it.
  • 00:14:44.362 --> 00:14:45.730
  • I'm trying to listen to the law of love."
  • 00:14:45.730 --> 00:14:47.065
  • So i kept driving.
  • 00:14:47.065 --> 00:14:48.866
  • But i want to be so obedient, and the devil knows that about
  • 00:14:48.866 --> 00:14:52.337
  • Me, right?
  • 00:14:52.337 --> 00:14:53.705
  • Like, my biggest fear would be not being obedient to the voice
  • 00:14:53.705 --> 00:14:56.007
  • Of the lord.
  • 00:14:56.007 --> 00:14:57.375
  • And i'm driving down the road and i hear holy spirit say, "i
  • 00:14:57.375 --> 00:15:00.645
  • Have not authorized you to do this," and the tone was just
  • 00:15:00.645 --> 00:15:04.282
  • Enough off that i was like, "it could be holy spirit, doesn't
  • 00:15:04.282 --> 00:15:07.885
  • Really sound like holy spirit, presenting as holy spirit."
  • 00:15:07.885 --> 00:15:10.321
  • And when i got there, i realized, like, a demon answered
  • 00:15:10.321 --> 00:15:13.424
  • The door, and i had thwarted the plans of a suicide.
  • 00:15:13.424 --> 00:15:17.495
  • This person was going to commit suicide.
  • 00:15:17.495 --> 00:15:19.630
  • And i stopped it.
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  • Had i listened to what was presenting as holy spirit, but
  • 00:15:20.965 --> 00:15:23.968
  • The reason i knew it wasn't holy spirit was because when you know
  • 00:15:23.968 --> 00:15:26.771
  • Enough scripture, you can discern the fruits of the holy
  • 00:15:26.771 --> 00:15:29.107
  • Spirit, love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness,
  • 00:15:29.107 --> 00:15:31.709
  • Gentleness, faithfulness, and self-control.
  • 00:15:31.709 --> 00:15:33.678
  • Against such there is no law.
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  • Randy: if you called me up and you tried to tell me to do
  • 00:15:35.880 --> 00:15:38.282
  • Something and i said, "who's this?"
  • 00:15:38.282 --> 00:15:39.650
  • And you said, "it's your wife," i'd be like, "no, i know
  • 00:15:39.650 --> 00:15:42.420
  • My wife."
  • 00:15:42.420 --> 00:15:43.755
  • Blynda: "i know her voice."
  • 00:15:43.755 --> 00:15:45.123
  • Randy: yeah, i know her voice, yeah.
  • 00:15:45.123 --> 00:15:46.457
  • And that's where the relationship makes
  • 00:15:46.457 --> 00:15:47.825
  • The difference.
  • 00:15:47.825 --> 00:15:49.160
  • Jen: and jesus says that, right?
  • 00:15:49.160 --> 00:15:50.528
  • "my people know my voice."
  • 00:15:50.528 --> 00:15:51.863
  • But there's also a tone.
  • 00:15:51.863 --> 00:15:53.197
  • Randy: absolutely.
  • 00:15:53.197 --> 00:15:54.565
  • Blynda: so in the idea of waking up your faith, and matching that
  • 00:15:54.565 --> 00:15:57.235
  • Or kind of looking at spiritual warfare, though, and how the
  • 00:15:57.235 --> 00:16:01.039
  • Enemy can come and he can start distorting truth, and he can.
  • 00:16:01.039 --> 00:16:07.378
  • What would you say to those watching, those who are like, "i
  • 00:16:07.378 --> 00:16:11.149
  • Have a little bit of apathy in my walk with the lord.
  • 00:16:11.149 --> 00:16:14.419
  • I don't know how to wake up my faith, and i do feel like the
  • 00:16:14.419 --> 00:16:18.556
  • Enemy is in my ear with those lies all the time"?
  • 00:16:18.556 --> 00:16:23.227
  • Jen: well, the first thing i'll tell you is that i have
  • 00:16:23.227 --> 00:16:25.763
  • Been there.
  • 00:16:25.763 --> 00:16:27.098
  • There were many times that i laid in bed and felt nothing.
  • 00:16:27.098 --> 00:16:32.103
  • And i think in those moments, you need to let the holy spirit
  • 00:16:32.103 --> 00:16:35.506
  • Know, like, "god, i feel this way.
  • 00:16:35.506 --> 00:16:41.179
  • Would you give me your holy spirit, because i feel like
  • 00:16:41.179 --> 00:16:44.315
  • Death right now?
  • 00:16:44.315 --> 00:16:45.683
  • I feel like a sack of dry bones.
  • 00:16:45.683 --> 00:16:47.018
  • I feel like i'm never going to get revived.
  • 00:16:47.018 --> 00:16:50.088
  • Would you help me see myself the way you see me, lord?
  • 00:16:50.088 --> 00:16:54.358
  • Would you help me get it from head knowledge to
  • 00:16:54.358 --> 00:16:56.961
  • Heart knowledge?
  • 00:16:56.961 --> 00:16:58.296
  • Because there's such a difference."
  • 00:16:58.296 --> 00:16:59.664
  • And then just like, honestly, i think sometimes you just have to
  • 00:16:59.664 --> 00:17:02.834
  • Push through.
  • 00:17:02.834 --> 00:17:04.168
  • I think sometimes you just need to like get into the word of
  • 00:17:04.168 --> 00:17:05.903
  • God, even when you feel dry.
  • 00:17:05.903 --> 00:17:07.538
  • But ask holy spirit, like, "holy spirit, would you help me
  • 00:17:07.538 --> 00:17:10.308
  • Understand this?"
  • 00:17:10.308 --> 00:17:11.676
  • And eventually, it's like--have you ever, you know, not drank
  • 00:17:11.676 --> 00:17:15.880
  • Water for a long time, right?
  • 00:17:15.880 --> 00:17:17.448
  • And then you start drinking water, you get in a habit of
  • 00:17:17.448 --> 00:17:19.717
  • Drinking water, and all of a sudden you realize that when you
  • 00:17:19.717 --> 00:17:22.820
  • Don't have your water, you're thirsty, even though now
  • 00:17:22.820 --> 00:17:24.956
  • You're hydrating?
  • 00:17:24.956 --> 00:17:26.290
  • Do you know what i'm talking about?
  • 00:17:26.290 --> 00:17:27.625
  • It's like, you can go so long not feeling thirsty and you're
  • 00:17:27.625 --> 00:17:30.661
  • Not hydrating well, but the minute you start getting in a
  • 00:17:30.661 --> 00:17:32.897
  • Cycle of hydration, you're like, "whoo, i'm thirsty," if you
  • 00:17:32.897 --> 00:17:36.367
  • Haven't had a sip of water in like ten minutes.
  • 00:17:36.367 --> 00:17:38.703
  • And i think spiritually it's the same thing.
  • 00:17:38.703 --> 00:17:41.005
  • It's like, just keep going, because the bible is the word
  • 00:17:41.005 --> 00:17:43.941
  • Of god.
  • 00:17:43.941 --> 00:17:45.276
  • Like, jesus is the word of god.
  • 00:17:45.276 --> 00:17:47.578
  • Like, he is the bread of life.
  • 00:17:47.578 --> 00:17:49.380
  • He is the living water, and the word of god is jesus.
  • 00:17:49.380 --> 00:17:53.851
  • We are so--we're at such an unfair advantage to live in this
  • 00:17:53.851 --> 00:17:57.822
  • Time period.
  • 00:17:57.822 --> 00:17:59.157
  • I was telling you that earlier, randy, like--like, we don't
  • 00:17:59.157 --> 00:18:01.592
  • Actually need to be fearful.
  • 00:18:01.592 --> 00:18:02.927
  • We have to put--like, revelation is not a fearful book.
  • 00:18:02.927 --> 00:18:05.496
  • It's a book of victory.
  • 00:18:05.496 --> 00:18:07.665
  • It's about setting our eyes on jesus.
  • 00:18:07.665 --> 00:18:09.534
  • When you set your eyes on jesus, everything else kind of
  • 00:18:09.534 --> 00:18:13.104
  • Fades away.
  • 00:18:13.104 --> 00:18:14.438
  • It's like, who are you trusting?
  • 00:18:14.438 --> 00:18:15.806
  • What are you trusting right now?
  • 00:18:15.806 --> 00:18:17.141
  • Blynda: it's so good.
  • 00:18:17.141 --> 00:18:18.476
  • Randy: all right, jen, i love your passion for the word and
  • 00:18:18.476 --> 00:18:21.445
  • Your love of the holy spirit, and i appreciate you
  • 00:18:21.445 --> 00:18:24.282
  • Sharing that.
  • 00:18:24.282 --> 00:18:25.650
  • I want other people to join you on this journey.
  • 00:18:25.650 --> 00:18:27.752
  • If you'd like to join jen on "wake up your faith: 365-day
  • 00:18:27.752 --> 00:18:34.025
  • Journey," we'd love to send this devotional to you.
  • 00:18:34.025 --> 00:18:37.528
  • We would ask that you would join us on a journey, many of you
  • 00:18:37.528 --> 00:18:40.765
  • Already have, of helping other people who are in
  • 00:18:40.765 --> 00:18:43.968
  • Dire situations.
  • 00:18:43.968 --> 00:18:45.603
  • There's some people right now who are hurting, and you can be
  • 00:18:45.603 --> 00:18:49.140
  • That agent of god's love and of change in their lives, and to
  • 00:18:49.140 --> 00:18:54.378
  • Give them hope for the future.
  • 00:18:54.378 --> 00:18:55.980
  • Right now we feed about 350,000 children every day in the
  • 00:18:55.980 --> 00:19:00.751
  • Various mission feeding programs, but there are more.
  • 00:19:00.751 --> 00:19:07.158
  • It's hard to say, it hurts to say it, but if we don't respond,
  • 00:19:07.158 --> 00:19:12.196
  • If we don't maintain and in some places increase,
  • 00:19:12.196 --> 00:19:16.334
  • Those mothers will bury their children.
  • 00:19:16.334 --> 00:19:19.770
  • Blynda: i can't even, like, fathom how a mother--the biggest
  • 00:19:19.770 --> 00:19:23.808
  • Fear a mom has is that they would lose a child, and this--
  • 00:19:23.808 --> 00:19:26.444
  • These moms have experienced losing multiple children,
  • 00:19:26.444 --> 00:19:30.581
  • And it's so avoidable.
  • 00:19:30.581 --> 00:19:32.483
  • I think that's the thing that when i watch it i think oh my
  • 00:19:32.483 --> 00:19:35.553
  • Goodness, if we could just get there to help.
  • 00:19:35.553 --> 00:19:37.421
  • The urgency that is there, that if we can just help them, we can
  • 00:19:37.421 --> 00:19:41.792
  • Bring the aid that they need.
  • 00:19:41.792 --> 00:19:43.194
  • Randy: they've exhausted every ability they have in these
  • 00:19:43.194 --> 00:19:48.266
  • Situations where we go into it, and oftentimes it's drought a
  • 00:19:48.266 --> 00:19:52.870
  • Lot of times, you know?
  • 00:19:52.870 --> 00:19:54.238
  • It's just the weather has turned against them.
  • 00:19:54.238 --> 00:19:56.774
  • It's crops that have failed for various reasons.
  • 00:19:56.774 --> 00:19:59.777
  • They've worked hard to plant, and they expect that harvest.
  • 00:19:59.777 --> 00:20:03.447
  • They go--and it doesn't come.
  • 00:20:03.447 --> 00:20:05.349
  • And when they say if no help comes, we're afraid that we
  • 00:20:05.349 --> 00:20:08.786
  • Won't be here, we won't exist, that's the reality that they
  • 00:20:08.786 --> 00:20:12.823
  • Live in.
  • 00:20:12.823 --> 00:20:14.158
  • We're asking you today to come alongside of us and give them
  • 00:20:14.158 --> 00:20:18.429
  • Hope by giving them a simple bowl of food,
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  • And it breaks down like this.
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  • So, yes, i'm asking you to give them a bowl of food today.
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  • Experiencing devastating famine, we urgently need to replenish
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  • There's some great things going on.
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  • Jen: yeah, well, it's all holy spirit.
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  • It's very exciting.
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  • Jen, thank you for joining us and for sharing your faith.
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  • We can't wait to see you back next time.
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  • Randy: goodbye.
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  • ♪♪♪
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  • ♪♪♪
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  • ♪ the world is full of argument. ♪
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  • ♪ and different points of view. ♪
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  • ♪ people drawing lines. ♪
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  • ♪ and picking sides. ♪
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  • ♪ fighting to win or lose. ♪
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  • ♪ we only see what we want to. ♪
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  • ♪ opinions fly, we call it truth. ♪
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  • ♪ like that's a hill to die on. ♪
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  • ♪ nothing matters more. ♪
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  • ♪ no matter what it might cost. ♪
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  • ♪ ready to start a war. ♪
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  • ♪ we make our point but we lose our friends. ♪
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  • ♪ and we wind up all alone. ♪
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  • ♪ like that's a hill to die on. ♪
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  • ♪ my heart is full of so much pride. ♪
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  • ♪ doesn't like to change. ♪
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  • ♪ you reached out in my darkest hour. ♪
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  • ♪ now i'll never be the same. ♪
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  • ♪ i may not have all the answers, lord. ♪
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  • ♪ but you're the one i'm living for. ♪
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  • ♪ that's a hill to die on. ♪
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  • ♪ nothing matters more. ♪
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  • ♪ no matter what it might cost. ♪
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  • ♪ not my will, but yours. ♪
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  • ♪ let all them see when they look at me. ♪
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  • ♪ that christ is all i want. ♪
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  • ♪ that's a hill to die on. ♪
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  • ♪♪♪
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  • ♪ you walked that road. ♪
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  • ♪ you took that cup. ♪
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  • ♪ so the world might see. ♪
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  • ♪ your father's love. ♪
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  • ♪ you walked that road. ♪
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  • ♪ you took that cup. ♪
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  • ♪ so the world might know. ♪
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  • ♪ your father's love. ♪
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  • ♪ you looked at me. ♪
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  • ♪ you looked at calvary. ♪
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  • ♪ you said, "that's a hill to die on. ♪
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  • ♪ nothing matters more. ♪
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  • ♪ no matter what it might cost. ♪
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  • ♪ not my will, but yours. ♪
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  • ♪ let others see when they look at me. ♪
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  • ♪ what was conquered on the cross. ♪
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  • ♪ that's a hill to die on. ♪
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  • ♪ that's a hill to die on." ♪♪
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