An actor and author of “Wake Up Your Faith” shares her personal journey with the Holy Spirit as she encourages you to grow in a deeper, more meaningful relationship with Him.
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Life Today with James Robison | Jen Lilley - Encountering Jesus | May 1, 2026
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- Male announcer: the following program is sponsored by friends
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- Of life outreach international and the friends
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- And partners of tbn.
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- Announcer: coming up, film and tv actress jen lilley.
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- Jen lilley: jesus says, "many will come to me in that day, and
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- They will say, 'lord, lord, did we not prophesy in your name?
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- Did we not do many mighty works in your name?'"
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- And he says, "and i will look at them, and i will say, 'depart
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- From me, you workers of lawlessness.
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- I never knew you.'"
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- Obviously they had some walk of faith, but somewhere along the
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- Line, they got so caught up in the power in the name of jesus
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- That they missed him.
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- Randy robison: welcome to "life today."
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- I'm randy robison. this is blynda lane.
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- Blynda lane: hello, randy, i'm kind of laughing because
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- I'm thinking about when i have--
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- Todd, my husband, when i tell him i'm gonna watch a
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- Hallmark movie, he says, "you go do that."
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- And in some way i feel like, because we have jen lilley with
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- Us from hallmark, i do feel like it's like, "randy, you can come
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- Along in this conversation."
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- Jen: yeah, you're invited.
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- Blynda: you're invited.
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- But also, we might talk about some hallmark things.
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- No, we're not gonna talk about that too much.
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- Not too much.
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- Jen: we'll talk about better than hallmark, jesus.
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- Blynda: i'm so glad that you're here today.
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- When i found out you were coming, i'm like, "this is gonna
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- Be so fun," because not only are we gonna connect about just your
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- Fun life, you have an amazing devotional that you've released
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- Called "wake up your faith."
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- Jen: thank you.
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- Blynda: tell me, how did you even come up with wanting to
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- Give the message that we need to wake up our faith?
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- Jen: sure, well, it's a funny story because broadstreet, my
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- Publishers, they're amazing, and suzanne niles, i met her at the
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- Movie guide awards, which is kind of like the christian
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- Oscars, i guess.
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- And she said she saw me and the holy spirit said, "book," and so
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- She beelined it to me.
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- And suzanne is one of those people, i hope i grow up to be
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- Like her.
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- She's so filled with the holy spirit and she's also beautiful
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- That it's almost like, i imagine this is what moses's face must
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- Have looked like.
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- Like, she glows.
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- Like, you can feel the holy spirit on her.
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- But she was like, "you know, i work for broadstreet publishing
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- And i think that you're supposed to write a devotional.
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- The holy spirit told me that," and i'm thinking, "well, i hear
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- A lot from the holy spirit and i don't think so," but i just kind
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- Of smiled and nodded and thought, you know, "i don't know
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- Who you think i am that i should be writing a devotional."
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- And i prayed about it, and right before i was going into the
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- Meeting with broadstreet, fully planning on saying no, i did
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- Some research and i was like, "oh, they've published books
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- With john bevere, who i love, and heidi baker, who i love.
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- So i guess they like the holy spirit, because i love the
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- Holy spirit."
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- I get on the zoom meeting and i said, "hey, guys.
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- Gosh, i don't know where to go here because i was fully
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- Prepared to say to you, 'i don't like devotionals.
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- I don't read devotionals.
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- Frankly, i think devotionals are often a crutch for people not
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- Reading the word of god, and i do not want any part of that,
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- Because i can't do more for you than the word of god.
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- And lastly, i will not not talk about the holy spirit, because
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- He's my best friend.'"
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- And broadstreet was so wonderful.
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- They said--well, they started laughing and they said, "well,
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- That's why we think you should write a devotional."
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- And so i said, "well, tell me how it works."
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- I fasted and prayed about it three more days.
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- And in that time i was like, "well, holy spirit, like, what
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- Do you--like, what am i supposed to say?
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- What do you want me to write about?
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- I don't even read devotionals.
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- I don't know how to do this."
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- And so he really brought me into the passion of wanting to wake
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- Up his bride.
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- I mean, my favorite verse in the whole bible, and i will laugh if
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- Anyone ever says it's their same passage, it's not one you're
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- Gonna ever see on a pillow or a poster, is matthew 7:21-23,
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- Technically 22 through 23.
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- It's the judgment day, and it says, jesus says, "many will
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- Come to me in that day, and they will say, 'lord, lord, do we not
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- Prophesy in your name?
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- Do we not heal the sick in your name?
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- Do we not do many mighty works in your name?'"
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- And he says, "and i will look at them, and i will say, 'depart
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- From me, you workers of lawlessness.
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- I never knew you.'"
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- That verse, the reason i love it so much is because it keeps you
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- So focused on jesus, because obviously they had some walk
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- Of faith.
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- They invoked the name of jesus, which is the highest name above
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- All names.
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- It has power.
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- But somewhere along the line, they got so caught up in the
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- Power in the name of jesus that they missed him.
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- And that's why i think in 1 corinthians, you know, the love
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- Chapter, we've heard it at every single wedding, whether they're
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- A believer or not, it seems that people know that, you
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- Know, scripture.
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- But 1 corinthians 13, it's like, "i can know all things.
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- I can fathom all mysteries," you know, and on and on and on, "but
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- If i don't have love, i have nothing."
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- And so this book is hopefully to wake up people's faith, you
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- Know, i think of it as like ezekiel in the desert with the
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- Dry bones.
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- It's like, god wants to breathe life back into us.
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- He wants to revive us.
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- Like, it is time as a church to rise up and be the bride of
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- Christ, know what the word of god says.
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- Like, ask the holy spirit, "what are you saying?
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- What are you doing, lord?
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- How can i be part of it?"
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- Like, jesus is alive and well, and we don't--i just don't want
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- Us to miss the mark.
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- And, you know, all of us have been through dry spells before,
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- But like, this is a book that i really feel the holy spirit
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- Wrote through me.
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- When i read it, i weep, because i'm like, i don't--i don't have
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- This knowledge.
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- This is from the holy spirit.
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- And it moves my heart, because it is so much scripture.
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- I mean, it's just--it's like an espresso shot of scripture.
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- But i hope that people use it either as an appetizer to
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- Reading the word of god, i hope it centers them into the holy
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- Spirit, so that the holy spirit can guide them through the word
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- Of god, or they read it after they read the bible, for like
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- A takeaway.
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- Appetizer or dessert, like, that's it.
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- Blynda: and i love that you're saying, still stay in the word
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- Of god, but use this as a help.
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- Jen: oh my gosh, yes.
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- Blynda: so we talked earlier, we kind of joked in the
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- Introduction that you've been on hallmark movies and you're an
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- Actress in hollywood and you've--this is your profession,
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- Yet some might be surprised, as they're watching, that you have
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- Such a profound walk with the lord.
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- What was your journey to be where you are today, and how
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- Does that combine with the profession that you chose?
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- Jen: i have a distinct memory of being seven years old, riding my
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- Bike and saying to the lord in my mind, like, "i don't know if
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- I believe in you," and hearing holy spirit say, "that's okay,"
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- Because god's like so in control.
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- It's like i heard it back and just kept going.
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- Two years later, we were awkwardly church shopping, as
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- Many people have done, and we ended up going to this
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- Episcopalian church, and it was called church of the
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- Holy spirit.
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- It's still there, it's amazing.
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- And i remember going in, and it was like, they had live
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- Musicians and they had worship, and i think that it felt very
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- Lively as a nine year old, and i was like, "this is kind
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- Of cool."
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- And so i loved the worship, and then we got dismissed to sunday
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- School, and i think this is so amazing because for parents, and
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- I am one, kids absorb so much more than we realize.
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- For sunday schools teachers, like, you're not missing it by
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- Being in the back.
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- And i was nine years old, and they told the story of elijah
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- And the widow with the oil and the flour.
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- And i remember being nine years old, and i had grown up
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- With religion class every day, you know, i was catholic.
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- And i was like, "wait a second, hold the phone."
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- Like, i thought, like, jesus and his twelve disciples, and then
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- Moses, as like the bookends of the biblical faith.
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- Like, i thought they operated in miracles.
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- Who is this guy in 1 and 2 kings that suddenly has the holy
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- Spirit and is like--you know, how is he multiplying food like
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- The fishes and loaves?
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- So i ended up going home, getting out my first communion
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- Bible with a yellow crayola crayon, and i read the entire
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- Bible cover to cover, as a nine year old.
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- And i would use the crayon like as my highlighter, you know, to
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- Mark where i had read.
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- So i've been passionate about the lord since i was nine, but i
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- Mean, i've had struggles.
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- You know, i had an eating disorder for 15 years, even
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- Though i knew jesus.
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- But when i was in college, i discovered acting, especially
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- Acting for film, because i'm stage fright, which is weird,
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- But i'm not afraid of the camera.
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- And i really felt the holy spirit call me into acting, so
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- That's how i got into it.
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- And then being a christian in hollywood is really amazing,
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- Because, you know, when other actors, or like aspiring young
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- Actors, especially christians, are like, "i want to be
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- An actress.
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- How do you do it?"
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- I'm always like, "hang on.
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- Why do you want to be an actor?"
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- Like, do you wanna be famous?
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- Because if you want to be famous, you're gonna get
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- Eaten alive.
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- Like, this is a dark space.
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- Like, you will get rejected for a living.
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- You're gonna get no 99.9% of the time.
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- You're gonna get a personal rejection of, "no, you're not
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- Good enough for this role."
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- So you'd better know whose you are before you go in there.
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- And--but i have a heart for artists and, like,
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- Telling stories.
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- I have a heart for the audience, but i also have a heart, such a
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- Deep heart, for the artists and the actors who have been told,
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- Like, their worth is in storytelling.
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- And they have all this hidden sin, that they think they're too
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- Deep, they're too far gone.
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- They've been sold a lie that they can never get out.
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- Randy: "the people of lawlessness," that's a reference
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- To the the jewish people who rejected christ because they had
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- The truth of the old covenant, right?
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- They had the promises, but they didn't have the relationship,
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- Because they didn't recognize christ as the messiah.
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- And i think we do that.
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- And again, catholic, protestant, or just "spiritual," which you
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- See a lot of in hollywood.
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- Was there a moment, or was there a process, maybe, where you
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- Realized, okay, this is not about a church necessarily, or
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- Not about--even about a book.
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- It's about a living faith, it's a relationship, through the holy
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- Spirit with god.
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- Is that like a realization you had, or is that just over time,
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- Sort of a growth?
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- Jen: i always knew that faith was about having a personal
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- Relationship with god, because the holy spirit did speak to me
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- As i read my bible, you know?
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- And it's like, if somebody says like they read the bible and
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- They don't understand it, it's like, always learn to pray to
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- The holy spirit and say, like, "would you help me understand
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- What i'm reading here?"
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- Randy: that's what he is, a helper.
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- "he will lead you into all truth," the scripture says.
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- Jen: and then it's like--so i do think that the bible, you know,
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- It's like a--it's the sword, right?
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- I mean, it can cut, it can wound.
- 00:10:44.189 --> 00:10:46.357
- I mean, and that's what the devil does, right?
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- Like, he always tricks us by using scripture and
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- Masquerading it.
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- Like, when we're believers, he uses scripture against us.
- 00:10:53.098 --> 00:10:55.734
- He did that to jesus in the desert.
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- He did it to peter, you know?
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- Like, "lord, let it not be so that you would be crucified,"
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- And jesus turns to him, right?
- 00:11:02.540 --> 00:11:04.042
- "get behind me, satan."
- 00:11:04.042 --> 00:11:05.376
- But then jesus goes on and he says, "for you have set your
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- Mind on the things of man and not on the things of god."
- 00:11:07.345 --> 00:11:10.281
- Like, we do that as christians.
- 00:11:10.281 --> 00:11:11.916
- So i always knew it was about relationship.
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- But with my, i mean, with getting set free from my eating
- 00:11:16.588 --> 00:11:19.858
- Disorder, it was a realization that my pastor--gosh, it's
- 00:11:19.858 --> 00:11:25.063
- So amazing.
- 00:11:25.063 --> 00:11:26.431
- My pastor in la, jake sweetman, he's like, that wasn't
- 00:11:26.431 --> 00:11:29.100
- Even the message, but you know, when the word of god hits you,
- 00:11:29.100 --> 00:11:32.737
- It rightly divides, and it hits you so deep, no matter what his
- 00:11:32.737 --> 00:11:35.673
- Message was actually on.
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- He said, "the best definition i can come up with for sin is
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- Trusting in anything more than i trust god."
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- Blynda: wow, that's good.
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- Jen: oh, it's so good.
- 00:11:44.516 --> 00:11:45.850
- And you know what?
- 00:11:45.850 --> 00:11:47.218
- Romans 14:23 actually says that, "anything that is not preceded
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- By trust is sin."
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- When you, as a christian, be--you know, come to the
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- Understanding that anything that you trust more than god is sin,
- 00:11:54.559 --> 00:11:58.596
- It's like it opens up the can of worms in your heart for all the
- 00:11:58.596 --> 00:12:02.200
- Hidden things that, like, you believe these lies.
- 00:12:02.200 --> 00:12:04.803
- I believed the lie, that's half-truth, and this is what
- 00:12:04.803 --> 00:12:07.438
- Satan does to every believer.
- 00:12:07.438 --> 00:12:09.040
- I believed this lie.
- 00:12:09.040 --> 00:12:10.542
- "i got myself into this eating disorder, so i deserve the
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- Consequences of it."
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- That's true.
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- I do deserve the consequences of it.
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- You deserve the consequences of your sin.
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- You deserve the consequences of my sin.
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- I deserve the consequences of my sin.
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- Like, we deserve death, but jesus paid our debt.
- 00:12:23.321 --> 00:12:27.692
- So satan always comes in shame cycles, and he often uses the
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- Word of god to keep us bound.
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- Randy: and also that, "i got myself in it.
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- I gotta get myself out of it."
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- Jen: and you think you can get yourself, like, cleaned up, and
- 00:12:37.502 --> 00:12:39.838
- It's like, i knew god knew.
- 00:12:39.838 --> 00:12:41.673
- I'd have believed he would heal everybody except me, because i
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- Deserved it.
- 00:12:44.943 --> 00:12:46.578
- So i mean it's like--
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- Blynda: like your sin was worse than somebody else's.
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- Jen: yeah, because, like, i know better and i know my worth, and
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- Yet i still choose this, and it's just like, it's the
- 00:12:52.350 --> 00:12:55.587
- Same trick.
- 00:12:55.587 --> 00:12:57.088
- Addiction is addiction is addiction is addiction.
- 00:12:57.088 --> 00:12:59.324
- Hidden sin is hidden sin, and why do people not come clean?
- 00:12:59.324 --> 00:13:02.627
- It's the same thing with adam and eve in the garden.
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- God never came down and condemned them.
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- He actually said, "where are you?
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- Why are you hiding?"
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- He didn't say, "i know what you did," but he knew what they did.
- 00:13:12.103 --> 00:13:14.239
- He gave them an opportunity, like, do you wanna--
- 00:13:14.239 --> 00:13:16.441
- Blynda: "who told you you were naked?"
- 00:13:16.441 --> 00:13:17.775
- Jen: "who told you you were naked?"
- 00:13:17.775 --> 00:13:19.143
- He was giving them an opportunity to say, "would
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- You confess?
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- Would you come?
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- Would you--let's take a walk in the garden."
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- Who knows what would have happened if they had chosen
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- Faith and trust in their relationship with the lord?
- 00:13:27.886 --> 00:13:31.422
- But instead they chose their shame and fear, and
- 00:13:31.422 --> 00:13:33.758
- Hid themselves.
- 00:13:33.758 --> 00:13:35.093
- And we do that.
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- Blynda: don't you find--i was reading, and i'm gonna say this
- 00:13:36.895 --> 00:13:40.598
- Quote because i thought it was so good, that so much of why we
- 00:13:40.598 --> 00:13:43.935
- Do that, though, is because the enemy, i mean, there is a
- 00:13:43.935 --> 00:13:46.304
- Warfare going on.
- 00:13:46.304 --> 00:13:48.006
- Jen: constant warfare.
- 00:13:48.006 --> 00:13:49.340
- Blynda: constant.
- 00:13:49.340 --> 00:13:50.708
- You even say this, "in spiritual warfare, it's not just the big
- 00:13:50.708 --> 00:13:53.077
- Attacks that we need to watch out for, but the subtle hidden
- 00:13:53.077 --> 00:13:56.080
- Influences that can infiltrate our lives.
- 00:13:56.080 --> 00:13:58.616
- Satan often gains access through seemingly
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- Insignificant compromises."
- 00:14:01.686 --> 00:14:03.922
- Jen: he also comes with "i" statements.
- 00:14:03.922 --> 00:14:05.990
- So we have three voices that speak to us.
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- We have our own self.
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- We have the holy spirit.
- 00:14:09.560 --> 00:14:11.029
- And we have, you know, elemental spirits of the world,
- 00:14:11.029 --> 00:14:13.264
- The demonic.
- 00:14:13.264 --> 00:14:14.599
- And they come in "i" statements.
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- I was going to do deliverance, actually, if i'm being
- 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:19.137
- Transparent, and i felt called by the lord to do it.
- 00:14:19.137 --> 00:14:22.540
- And as i was driving down the road to go do this assignment
- 00:14:22.540 --> 00:14:25.777
- That the lord had clearly laid on my heart, because i was
- 00:14:25.777 --> 00:14:27.879
- Obeying the law of love, i heard what presented as the holy
- 00:14:27.879 --> 00:14:31.883
- Spirit say, "i don't need you to do this."
- 00:14:31.883 --> 00:14:36.254
- But it was kind of like--it was a little bit aggressive, like,
- 00:14:36.254 --> 00:14:40.191
- "i don't need you to do this."
- 00:14:40.191 --> 00:14:41.526
- Like, "i've got this, stop trying to control it."
- 00:14:41.526 --> 00:14:43.027
- And i thought, "well, that's weird.
- 00:14:43.027 --> 00:14:44.362
- I'm not trying to control it.
- 00:14:44.362 --> 00:14:45.730
- I'm trying to listen to the law of love."
- 00:14:45.730 --> 00:14:47.065
- So i kept driving.
- 00:14:47.065 --> 00:14:48.866
- But i want to be so obedient, and the devil knows that about
- 00:14:48.866 --> 00:14:52.337
- Me, right?
- 00:14:52.337 --> 00:14:53.705
- Like, my biggest fear would be not being obedient to the voice
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- Of the lord.
- 00:14:56.007 --> 00:14:57.375
- And i'm driving down the road and i hear holy spirit say, "i
- 00:14:57.375 --> 00:15:00.645
- Have not authorized you to do this," and the tone was just
- 00:15:00.645 --> 00:15:04.282
- Enough off that i was like, "it could be holy spirit, doesn't
- 00:15:04.282 --> 00:15:07.885
- Really sound like holy spirit, presenting as holy spirit."
- 00:15:07.885 --> 00:15:10.321
- And when i got there, i realized, like, a demon answered
- 00:15:10.321 --> 00:15:13.424
- The door, and i had thwarted the plans of a suicide.
- 00:15:13.424 --> 00:15:17.495
- This person was going to commit suicide.
- 00:15:17.495 --> 00:15:19.630
- And i stopped it.
- 00:15:19.630 --> 00:15:20.965
- Had i listened to what was presenting as holy spirit, but
- 00:15:20.965 --> 00:15:23.968
- The reason i knew it wasn't holy spirit was because when you know
- 00:15:23.968 --> 00:15:26.771
- Enough scripture, you can discern the fruits of the holy
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- Spirit, love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness,
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- Gentleness, faithfulness, and self-control.
- 00:15:31.709 --> 00:15:33.678
- Against such there is no law.
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- Randy: if you called me up and you tried to tell me to do
- 00:15:35.880 --> 00:15:38.282
- Something and i said, "who's this?"
- 00:15:38.282 --> 00:15:39.650
- And you said, "it's your wife," i'd be like, "no, i know
- 00:15:39.650 --> 00:15:42.420
- My wife."
- 00:15:42.420 --> 00:15:43.755
- Blynda: "i know her voice."
- 00:15:43.755 --> 00:15:45.123
- Randy: yeah, i know her voice, yeah.
- 00:15:45.123 --> 00:15:46.457
- And that's where the relationship makes
- 00:15:46.457 --> 00:15:47.825
- The difference.
- 00:15:47.825 --> 00:15:49.160
- Jen: and jesus says that, right?
- 00:15:49.160 --> 00:15:50.528
- "my people know my voice."
- 00:15:50.528 --> 00:15:51.863
- But there's also a tone.
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- Randy: absolutely.
- 00:15:53.197 --> 00:15:54.565
- Blynda: so in the idea of waking up your faith, and matching that
- 00:15:54.565 --> 00:15:57.235
- Or kind of looking at spiritual warfare, though, and how the
- 00:15:57.235 --> 00:16:01.039
- Enemy can come and he can start distorting truth, and he can.
- 00:16:01.039 --> 00:16:07.378
- What would you say to those watching, those who are like, "i
- 00:16:07.378 --> 00:16:11.149
- Have a little bit of apathy in my walk with the lord.
- 00:16:11.149 --> 00:16:14.419
- I don't know how to wake up my faith, and i do feel like the
- 00:16:14.419 --> 00:16:18.556
- Enemy is in my ear with those lies all the time"?
- 00:16:18.556 --> 00:16:23.227
- Jen: well, the first thing i'll tell you is that i have
- 00:16:23.227 --> 00:16:25.763
- Been there.
- 00:16:25.763 --> 00:16:27.098
- There were many times that i laid in bed and felt nothing.
- 00:16:27.098 --> 00:16:32.103
- And i think in those moments, you need to let the holy spirit
- 00:16:32.103 --> 00:16:35.506
- Know, like, "god, i feel this way.
- 00:16:35.506 --> 00:16:41.179
- Would you give me your holy spirit, because i feel like
- 00:16:41.179 --> 00:16:44.315
- Death right now?
- 00:16:44.315 --> 00:16:45.683
- I feel like a sack of dry bones.
- 00:16:45.683 --> 00:16:47.018
- I feel like i'm never going to get revived.
- 00:16:47.018 --> 00:16:50.088
- Would you help me see myself the way you see me, lord?
- 00:16:50.088 --> 00:16:54.358
- Would you help me get it from head knowledge to
- 00:16:54.358 --> 00:16:56.961
- Heart knowledge?
- 00:16:56.961 --> 00:16:58.296
- Because there's such a difference."
- 00:16:58.296 --> 00:16:59.664
- And then just like, honestly, i think sometimes you just have to
- 00:16:59.664 --> 00:17:02.834
- Push through.
- 00:17:02.834 --> 00:17:04.168
- I think sometimes you just need to like get into the word of
- 00:17:04.168 --> 00:17:05.903
- God, even when you feel dry.
- 00:17:05.903 --> 00:17:07.538
- But ask holy spirit, like, "holy spirit, would you help me
- 00:17:07.538 --> 00:17:10.308
- Understand this?"
- 00:17:10.308 --> 00:17:11.676
- And eventually, it's like--have you ever, you know, not drank
- 00:17:11.676 --> 00:17:15.880
- Water for a long time, right?
- 00:17:15.880 --> 00:17:17.448
- And then you start drinking water, you get in a habit of
- 00:17:17.448 --> 00:17:19.717
- Drinking water, and all of a sudden you realize that when you
- 00:17:19.717 --> 00:17:22.820
- Don't have your water, you're thirsty, even though now
- 00:17:22.820 --> 00:17:24.956
- You're hydrating?
- 00:17:24.956 --> 00:17:26.290
- Do you know what i'm talking about?
- 00:17:26.290 --> 00:17:27.625
- It's like, you can go so long not feeling thirsty and you're
- 00:17:27.625 --> 00:17:30.661
- Not hydrating well, but the minute you start getting in a
- 00:17:30.661 --> 00:17:32.897
- Cycle of hydration, you're like, "whoo, i'm thirsty," if you
- 00:17:32.897 --> 00:17:36.367
- Haven't had a sip of water in like ten minutes.
- 00:17:36.367 --> 00:17:38.703
- And i think spiritually it's the same thing.
- 00:17:38.703 --> 00:17:41.005
- It's like, just keep going, because the bible is the word
- 00:17:41.005 --> 00:17:43.941
- Of god.
- 00:17:43.941 --> 00:17:45.276
- Like, jesus is the word of god.
- 00:17:45.276 --> 00:17:47.578
- Like, he is the bread of life.
- 00:17:47.578 --> 00:17:49.380
- He is the living water, and the word of god is jesus.
- 00:17:49.380 --> 00:17:53.851
- We are so--we're at such an unfair advantage to live in this
- 00:17:53.851 --> 00:17:57.822
- Time period.
- 00:17:57.822 --> 00:17:59.157
- I was telling you that earlier, randy, like--like, we don't
- 00:17:59.157 --> 00:18:01.592
- Actually need to be fearful.
- 00:18:01.592 --> 00:18:02.927
- We have to put--like, revelation is not a fearful book.
- 00:18:02.927 --> 00:18:05.496
- It's a book of victory.
- 00:18:05.496 --> 00:18:07.665
- It's about setting our eyes on jesus.
- 00:18:07.665 --> 00:18:09.534
- When you set your eyes on jesus, everything else kind of
- 00:18:09.534 --> 00:18:13.104
- Fades away.
- 00:18:13.104 --> 00:18:14.438
- It's like, who are you trusting?
- 00:18:14.438 --> 00:18:15.806
- What are you trusting right now?
- 00:18:15.806 --> 00:18:17.141
- Blynda: it's so good.
- 00:18:17.141 --> 00:18:18.476
- Randy: all right, jen, i love your passion for the word and
- 00:18:18.476 --> 00:18:21.445
- Your love of the holy spirit, and i appreciate you
- 00:18:21.445 --> 00:18:24.282
- Sharing that.
- 00:18:24.282 --> 00:18:25.650
- I want other people to join you on this journey.
- 00:18:25.650 --> 00:18:27.752
- If you'd like to join jen on "wake up your faith: 365-day
- 00:18:27.752 --> 00:18:34.025
- Journey," we'd love to send this devotional to you.
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- We would ask that you would join us on a journey, many of you
- 00:18:37.528 --> 00:18:40.765
- Already have, of helping other people who are in
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- 00:18:43.968 --> 00:18:45.603
- There's some people right now who are hurting, and you can be
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- That agent of god's love and of change in their lives, and to
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- Give them hope for the future.
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- Right now we feed about 350,000 children every day in the
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- If we don't maintain and in some places increase,
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- Those mothers will bury their children.
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- Blynda: i can't even, like, fathom how a mother--the biggest
- 00:19:19.770 --> 00:19:23.808
- Fear a mom has is that they would lose a child, and this--
- 00:19:23.808 --> 00:19:26.444
- These moms have experienced losing multiple children,
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- And it's so avoidable.
- 00:19:30.581 --> 00:19:32.483
- I think that's the thing that when i watch it i think oh my
- 00:19:32.483 --> 00:19:35.553
- Goodness, if we could just get there to help.
- 00:19:35.553 --> 00:19:37.421
- The urgency that is there, that if we can just help them, we can
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- Bring the aid that they need.
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- Randy: they've exhausted every ability they have in these
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- Situations where we go into it, and oftentimes it's drought a
- 00:19:48.266 --> 00:19:52.870
- Lot of times, you know?
- 00:19:52.870 --> 00:19:54.238
- It's just the weather has turned against them.
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- It's crops that have failed for various reasons.
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- They've worked hard to plant, and they expect that harvest.
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- They go--and it doesn't come.
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- And when they say if no help comes, we're afraid that we
- 00:20:05.349 --> 00:20:08.786
- Won't be here, we won't exist, that's the reality that they
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- Live in.
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- We're asking you today to come alongside of us and give them
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- Hope by giving them a simple bowl of food,
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- ♪♪♪
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- ♪♪♪
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- ♪ the world is full of argument. ♪
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- ♪ and different points of view. ♪
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- ♪ people drawing lines. ♪
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- ♪ and picking sides. ♪
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- ♪ fighting to win or lose. ♪
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- ♪ we only see what we want to. ♪
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- ♪ opinions fly, we call it truth. ♪
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- ♪ like that's a hill to die on. ♪
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- ♪ nothing matters more. ♪
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- ♪ no matter what it might cost. ♪
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- ♪ ready to start a war. ♪
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- ♪ we make our point but we lose our friends. ♪
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- ♪ and we wind up all alone. ♪
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- ♪ like that's a hill to die on. ♪
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- ♪ my heart is full of so much pride. ♪
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- ♪ doesn't like to change. ♪
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- ♪ you reached out in my darkest hour. ♪
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- ♪ now i'll never be the same. ♪
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- ♪ i may not have all the answers, lord. ♪
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- ♪ but you're the one i'm living for. ♪
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- ♪ that's a hill to die on. ♪
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- ♪ nothing matters more. ♪
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- ♪ no matter what it might cost. ♪
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- ♪ not my will, but yours. ♪
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- ♪ let all them see when they look at me. ♪
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- ♪ that christ is all i want. ♪
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- ♪ that's a hill to die on. ♪
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- ♪♪♪
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- ♪ you walked that road. ♪
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- ♪ you took that cup. ♪
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- ♪ so the world might see. ♪
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- ♪ your father's love. ♪
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- ♪ you walked that road. ♪
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- ♪ you took that cup. ♪
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- ♪ so the world might know. ♪
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- ♪ your father's love. ♪
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- ♪ you looked at me. ♪
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- ♪ you looked at calvary. ♪
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- ♪ you said, "that's a hill to die on. ♪
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- ♪ nothing matters more. ♪
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- ♪ no matter what it might cost. ♪
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- ♪ not my will, but yours. ♪
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- ♪ let others see when they look at me. ♪
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- ♪ what was conquered on the cross. ♪
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- ♪ that's a hill to die on. ♪
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- ♪ that's a hill to die on." ♪♪
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