Jerry Flowers: Learning To Love | Life Today

April 9, 2026 | 27:29

The author of “Heart Rehab” offers scriptural truth to help you break out of repetitious and destructive cycles.

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Life Today with James Robison | Jerry Flowers: Learning To Love | Life Today | April 9, 2026
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  • Male announcer: the following program is sponsored by friends
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  • Of life outreach international and the friends
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  • Announcer: when your inner world feels messy and out of control,
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  • Maybe your unhealed wounds are clouding your mind.
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  • Jerry flowers jr.: is it possible that a word from god is
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  • Standing in the long line of your overthinking?
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  • So it's not that god isn't speaking, it's behind trauma,
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  • It's behind rejection, it's behind bitterness, it's
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  • Behind grudge.
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  • God is speaking to you, but there's a long line of
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  • Overthinking, worst-case scenario, catastrophizing.
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  • Announcer: from hurt to healing, next.
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  • Randy robison: welcome to "life today," i'm randy robinson.
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  • It's great to be with you today.
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  • We've got some encouragement for you today.
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  • My guest has a book called "heart rehab."
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  • It was written by jerry flowers jr., and jerry is the founder of
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  • Redefined tv.
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  • He's a pastor down in the great city of houston, texas, at a
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  • Church called time of celebration ministries church,
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  • And so we're glad to have him, because he's got some really
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  • Good, encouraging words for you today, so stick around.
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  • Jerry, welcome.
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  • Jerry: thank you for having me.
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  • Randy: how you doing, man?
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  • Jerry: i'm doing great, glad to be here.
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  • Randy: yeah, is your heart rehabbed today?
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  • Jerry: i believe so, i think it's still in the process.
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  • Randy: you know what?
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  • And that's it, that's it.
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  • Tell us a little bit about just this whole concept of heart
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  • Rehab, because, you know, a lot of people are dealing with some
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  • Real heartache these days.
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  • Jerry: yeah, so it started off noticing a pattern that when my
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  • Wife and i would have counseling sessions, i'm like we just dealt
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  • With that in the sermon, and it was the exact same type of
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  • Questions, and i recognized trauma could be so severe that
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  • They're not even really hearing what i'm saying.
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  • So if scripture tells us to love your neighbor like you love
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  • Yourself, but if you don't love yourself, we're gonna have a
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  • Little issue with that.
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  • So heart rehab is all about discovering the you that god
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  • Originally created for you to be, healing so that it won't
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  • Eclipse your destiny and your purpose.
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  • So that's really the theme of the book.
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  • Randy: all right, when you were--you say you and your wife
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  • Were in counseling, were you in counseling together, or were you
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  • Doing the counseling?
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  • Jerry: we do both, we do both, but we were administering the
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  • Counseling, and it was just trauma could be so loud, pain
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  • Could be so loud that you're not hearing anything, and you're in
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  • A place that's trying to spiritually edify you.
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  • So this is really the vision behind the book.
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  • Randy: we got a lot of childhood wounds that people never seem to
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  • Get healed.
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  • What are some of the truths from scripture that free us
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  • From that?
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  • Jerry: yeah, well, of course scripture tells us to be renewed
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  • By the--we could be transformed by the renewing of our mind, so
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  • It starts with identifying those mind wounds, those
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  • Mental wounds.
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  • And one of the things i always inform our members, friends, is
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  • If you could trace it, you can unlearn it.
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  • So there's a difference in coming out of a thing due to
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  • Repercussions versus coming out of a thing due to reprogramming.
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  • So when your mind is renewed, that is where i could see where
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  • The knot formed that was causing for me to respond like that
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  • Versus me just having behavior modification i'm trying to
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  • Change, yeah.
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  • Randy: what you're saying is you need to quit thinking
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  • That way, right?
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  • Jerry: yeah, if you could trace it, you could unlearn it.
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  • And so an analogy i use if somebody burglarizes your home,
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  • And they don't have a mask on, it's easier to identify them,
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  • But if they have a mask on, then it's harder to identify, and i
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  • Think sometimes wounds are masked thieves, they're robbing
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  • Intimacy, they're robbing joy, and so with the book we unmask
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  • Them, we take the mask off.
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  • This is what it is, this is the thief of abandonment, this is
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  • The thief of rejection, but how do we get them out of the house
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  • So we could be healed?
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  • Randy: how much of our healing is--because we can't--i don't
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  • Think we can really fully heal ourselves.
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  • I mean, we can-- people help, right?
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  • Counseling is great, we can read scripture, but ultimately it's a
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  • Work of the holy spirit, is it not?
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  • Jerry: yeah, it's definitely a process.
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  • It's similar to when i fractured my shin, if i stump hard enough,
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  • I still kind of feel it, and this was when i was what, 22?
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  • So certain times there's healing that god gives you the grace to
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  • Continue to pursue, and then there are other things where you
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  • Could be totally healed from it to where i'm no longer triggered
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  • From things.
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  • So the goal is to be like a whole glass that could quench
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  • Your thirst versus a broken glass starts to cut you.
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  • Randy: i know there's no formula, right?
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  • But is there--are there some general awareness?
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  • Jerry: awareness, that is so huge.
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  • Are you aware of your attitude?
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  • Are you aware of your trigger, how your mood shifts from day
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  • To day?
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  • I think that's where it begins.
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  • If you can't see it, it's gonna be hard to diagnose it, but when
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  • You recognize i need to go to the doctor because this cough is
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  • Lasting, it's the awareness part.
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  • Randy: yeah, and i think that's where the holy spirit really
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  • Comes in, and then we have, you know, sort of church words for
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  • Them like conviction, which is key, repentance, which is
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  • Agreeing with god that that is a messed up place in my life, and
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  • Now i'm gonna turn from it, but god promises to do what we can't
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  • Do on our own.
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  • Jerry: yeah.
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  • Randy: i think some of the red flags are helpful.
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  • In other words, if we've got-- our heart needs to be rehabbed,
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  • There are some red flags that will definitely say there is a
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  • Problem here and that ultimately that's helpful.
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  • I got a few that you talk about that come to mind.
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  • Is there anything that comes to mind with you?
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  • Jerry: in the book we speak about a relational autopsy.
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  • What was the cause of death to this relationship?
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  • Did i kill it?
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  • Did we kill it?
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  • Was this a relational homicide?
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  • If every single thing you go through is always them, then we
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  • Have an awareness problem, you see what i'm saying?
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  • So it starts with being aware of what did i contribute to this?
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  • How did i miss this?
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  • How do i keep falling for counterfeits?
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  • And then i think that's the pathway where the lord and the
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  • Holy spirit begins to open your eyes to patterns.
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  • Randy: yeah, well, we play the victim, right?
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  • We blame everybody else, and our culture has gotten really bad at
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  • That, it seems like.
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  • You've seen quite a bit of that?
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  • Jerry: it's always them.
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  • Like, no, sometimes the red flag is you.
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  • Sometimes the counterfeit is us.
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  • Sometimes the lord is protecting them from us, and so i just
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  • Think that takes awareness to recognize when you could say i
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  • Wasn't healed enough to value that relationship at the time,
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  • That shows growth.
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  • A relationship will always show you what you're not educated or
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  • Don't have skills, and it's amazing, if you wanna be a
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  • Doctor, you go to school.
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  • If you wanna be a cosmetologist, you go to school.
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  • Where do you go to love?
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  • And there are so many people who are getting in god institutions
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  • And trying to keep god out, but then run to god when i feel all
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  • The pain.
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  • And so that's what we strive to do, provide the healing and then
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  • Also the theology to help them understand the god of the bible.
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  • Randy: yeah, you know it's interesting, because 1 peter has
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  • This path to the kingdom of god, which is the rule of reign.
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  • Jesus said, "your kingdom come, your will be done."
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  • So, how does god's will done in our life?
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  • And he goes through this whole thing, it starts with diligently
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  • Applying ourselves, right?
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  • And there's multiple steps, but kind of in the middle of it is
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  • Godliness, which i would think would be the ultimate goal of
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  • Things, but it's not, it's on the path.
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  • The ultimate goal is love.
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  • Jerry: come on.
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  • Randy: where do we go to learn to love?
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  • Well, that is the ultimate source, the only source of
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  • Perfect love, which is christ.
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  • So, i mean, if someone's dealing with the trauma, if they've got
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  • The childhood wounds, they're living out these repeated
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  • Patterns of destruction, whether it's destroying themselves or
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  • The other relationships, is there anywhere they can go to
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  • Learn to break those patterns and to learn to love other
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  • Than christ?
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  • Jerry: no, no, because here's the thing, let's use marriage.
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  • Marriage is a god-made institution, so for marriage to
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  • Work, god must be an institution.
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  • God is love.
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  • So if you're trying to do anything in the name of the
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  • Lord, like i want to love her or love him, i need god to do it.
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  • And i think that's the disconnect is we're really
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  • Confusing lust and infatuation and affection with love, because
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  • Love truly is sacrificial.
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  • Love keeps no record of wrong.
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  • Love is patient. what is patient?
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  • It's the ability to survive the season of not yet.
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  • Oh, you need the holy spirit to do that.
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  • All of these attributes really do require the holy spirit's
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  • Intervention in your own life, and i think that starts with
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  • Being aware of you.
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  • Randy: how do you get past that tendency, that pattern to just
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  • See the worst possible outcome?
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  • Because half the time it's self-fulfilling prophecy when
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  • You live that way.
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  • Jerry: i think sometimes we have to identify how is my
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  • Overthinking playing the role in my own suffering?
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  • In the book i have a chapter, i believe it's chapter 4, entitled
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  • "your mind is too crowded," and in the book i said is it
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  • Possible that a word from god is standing in the long line of
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  • Your overthinking?
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  • So, it's not that god isn't speaking, it's behind trauma,
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  • It's behind rejection, it's behind bitterness, it's
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  • Behind grudge.
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  • God is speaking to you, but there's a long line of
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  • Overthinking, worst-case scenario, catastrophizing.
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  • You start to under-appreciate valleys.
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  • I think that's one of the main contributing factors is we
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  • Under-appreciate where we are because we're exposed to where
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  • Everybody else is.
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  • Randy: in other words, if there is something unjust that has
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  • Happened to you, and you need justice, trust his justice more
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  • Than your own, right?
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  • If you need closure from someone who's never gonna give it to
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  • You, you get that closure from god.
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  • You know, if you need peace, i love my wife, but if my peace
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  • Hinged on my wife and my children when they were growing
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  • Up, or you know, or even my work, and i work in a great
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  • Place, right?
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  • With christians, if that's where my hope and my peace and my joy
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  • Ultimately comes from, it's gonna be a bumpy ride, because
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  • People are people.
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  • So in order to to get rid of those things that are in front
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  • Of god's word speaking to me, i think the ultimate answer is
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  • Surrendering them.
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  • Have you experienced that?
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  • Jerry: but you have to do the work.
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  • See, the word works, but you have to work it.
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  • You have to do the work.
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  • So, a basic example, if i say picture in your mind a brown
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  • Horse, you could do that.
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  • If i say now picture a black horse, you could do that.
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  • You just showed me you have the power to change your
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  • Thoughts, right?
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  • So what is overthinking?
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  • It's a misuse of your creative self.
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  • Look how creative we are, creating horror stories in our
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  • Mind that may never happen.
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  • So it starts with recognizing just on that basic brown horse,
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  • Black horse, you have the power to change your thoughts.
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  • It just takes the practice, the discipline, and the number one
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  • Way to do that is have a prayer life, because when you pray, you
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  • Have to cast stuff down.
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  • Who won the game? ah, focus on jesus.
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  • What am i gonna eat? ah, focus on jesus.
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  • So, people who usually do not have a consistent prayer life, i
  • 00:11:12.584 --> 00:11:16.588
  • Notice it's a harder time for them to cast down things,
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  • Because prayer trains the mind to cast down.
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  • Randy: yes, it does.
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  • That's that surrender i'm talking about.
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  • And yes, i do the--i did the whole catastrophe thing just
  • 00:11:24.929 --> 00:11:28.133
  • Yesterday when my plane hits a little bit of turbulence, and
  • 00:11:28.133 --> 00:11:30.802
  • Here i go, oh no, you know?
  • 00:11:30.802 --> 00:11:32.637
  • Where we're going-- there's nowhere, anyway.
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  • And that's the tendency, but you know, in order to renew our
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  • Minds, and god does the renewing, i really think the
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  • Casting, you know, the letting go is just kind of getting out
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  • Of his way sometimes.
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  • Jerry: yeah, yeah.
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  • Randy: how has that changed in your life, even the way you
  • 00:11:47.218 --> 00:11:49.320
  • See god?
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  • Jerry: so, in ministry, there's so many unpredictables, right?
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  • I understand that the lord changeth not.
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  • He's the same yesterday, today, forevermore.
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  • My purpose is written in permanent marker.
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  • But my--the steps that the lord has taken me are written in
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  • Pencil, and i think that's like stop trying to permanent marker
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  • How it should be.
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  • Render the pen, what you're talking about, that's surrender.
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  • Render the pen, lord, whatever you say, which direction you
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  • Think, and recognizing that the steps of a good man are ordered
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  • By the lord.
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  • So, instead of viewing it as disappointment, i view it as god
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  • Is ordering my steps.
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  • And i think for me, it's all in perspective shifting.
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  • Randy: yes, yes.
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  • Jerry: surrendering and shifting your perspective.
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  • Randy: yeah, and that change-- that does change the way you see
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  • God, because you see he's not someone who's out to get you for
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  • The things you've done wrong, but someone who really wants to
  • 00:12:39.838 --> 00:12:42.440
  • Finish what he started to perfect you, not to make you
  • 00:12:42.440 --> 00:12:45.777
  • Flawless, but to make you whole, which is that heart rehab that
  • 00:12:45.777 --> 00:12:49.314
  • You're talking about.
  • 00:12:49.314 --> 00:12:51.082
  • How does that change the way you see other people, especially
  • 00:12:51.082 --> 00:12:53.718
  • In ministry?
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  • Jerry: if i could just share with myself.
  • 00:12:55.086 --> 00:12:56.421
  • There was a year, 2018, i experienced a whole lot of
  • 00:12:56.421 --> 00:13:00.258
  • Betrayal, and i was like i'm done with people.
  • 00:13:00.258 --> 00:13:03.995
  • Tanisha, that's my wife, it's me and her against the world.
  • 00:13:03.995 --> 00:13:07.732
  • And through prayer, the holy spirit revealed to me you will
  • 00:13:07.732 --> 00:13:11.603
  • Never be an effective spiritual physician if you keep getting
  • 00:13:11.603 --> 00:13:15.473
  • Sick from everybody you're trying to treat, and that
  • 00:13:15.473 --> 00:13:19.310
  • Changed my life.
  • 00:13:19.310 --> 00:13:20.678
  • So i don't just heal for myself, i don't just heal for my
  • 00:13:20.678 --> 00:13:24.749
  • Marriage, for my children, for my bloodline, but for my
  • 00:13:24.749 --> 00:13:27.552
  • Calling, so that every person that i meet new, i don't view
  • 00:13:27.552 --> 00:13:32.257
  • Them as judas immediately, right?
  • 00:13:32.257 --> 00:13:36.995
  • I view them as this is somebody that the lord is entrusting me
  • 00:13:36.995 --> 00:13:40.732
  • To help see him until there's something else seen.
  • 00:13:40.732 --> 00:13:44.535
  • So i walk with this relational management skill, 1,000, 72, 12,
  • 00:13:44.535 --> 00:13:52.010
  • 3, and i got it from jesus.
  • 00:13:52.010 --> 00:13:54.279
  • He spoke to thousands, he sent out 72, he selected 12, but he
  • 00:13:54.279 --> 00:13:58.616
  • Was vulnerable with 3, that changed my life.
  • 00:13:58.616 --> 00:14:02.487
  • Randy: so what does that mean for you?
  • 00:14:02.487 --> 00:14:03.855
  • Jerry: so like how three, peter, james, john, all the disciples.
  • 00:14:03.855 --> 00:14:07.191
  • So for me, i have my three, so i don't overshare social media
  • 00:14:07.191 --> 00:14:11.095
  • To thousands.
  • 00:14:11.095 --> 00:14:12.530
  • I don't bleed in front of the 72, i have my 3, so that also,
  • 00:14:12.530 --> 00:14:17.468
  • Like that's that perspective, also has helped with making sure
  • 00:14:17.468 --> 00:14:21.439
  • That a lot of pain isn't recycled.
  • 00:14:21.439 --> 00:14:24.409
  • Randy: did god just drop that on you?
  • 00:14:24.409 --> 00:14:26.577
  • Jerry: i was studying the lord, man, i just noticed he spoke to
  • 00:14:26.577 --> 00:14:28.746
  • Thousands, because there were times where he would only take
  • 00:14:28.746 --> 00:14:31.015
  • Peter, james, and john, i'm like--
  • 00:14:31.015 --> 00:14:33.151
  • Randy: why would he do that?
  • 00:14:33.151 --> 00:14:34.519
  • Jerry: why?
  • 00:14:34.519 --> 00:14:35.853
  • Mount transfiguration, peter, james, and john.
  • 00:14:35.853 --> 00:14:37.488
  • Garden of gethsemane, y'all stay here, peter, james, and john.
  • 00:14:37.488 --> 00:14:40.658
  • And so i said, oh, the lord has relational management.
  • 00:14:40.658 --> 00:14:46.397
  • But it's so brilliant.
  • 00:14:46.397 --> 00:14:47.999
  • Judas wasn't at the mount of transfiguration, you see?
  • 00:14:47.999 --> 00:14:50.401
  • And so just learning, i really study him to learn that even in
  • 00:14:50.401 --> 00:14:54.005
  • Life he had skills that if we pick up can help our hearts too.
  • 00:14:54.005 --> 00:14:58.009
  • Randy: so, okay, so a lot of what i hear you talking about,
  • 00:14:58.009 --> 00:15:00.445
  • You know, in "heart rehab" and just in our conversation is
  • 00:15:00.445 --> 00:15:03.815
  • Basically saying that you're going to learn how to live life,
  • 00:15:03.815 --> 00:15:10.188
  • Navigate relationships, but sort of just work out what god has
  • 00:15:10.188 --> 00:15:16.060
  • Done in your life by going to scripture, learning, and putting
  • 00:15:16.060 --> 00:15:21.733
  • It into action.
  • 00:15:21.733 --> 00:15:23.134
  • Is that pretty safe to say?
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  • Jerry: that's it.
  • 00:15:25.169 --> 00:15:26.537
  • Randy: and what does that continue to do for your life,
  • 00:15:26.537 --> 00:15:29.073
  • For your family, for your church?
  • 00:15:29.073 --> 00:15:31.409
  • Because i mean that's formulaic but kind of scriptural and
  • 00:15:31.409 --> 00:15:36.614
  • Simple in a formula, even though the details a little difficult,
  • 00:15:36.614 --> 00:15:39.317
  • But what's that done for you?
  • 00:15:39.317 --> 00:15:40.685
  • Jerry: it's made me to be honest, for me to present a real
  • 00:15:40.685 --> 00:15:46.958
  • Version of myself versus a put-together, customized,
  • 00:15:46.958 --> 00:15:52.397
  • Well-digestible version of who jerry should be.
  • 00:15:52.397 --> 00:15:56.134
  • Randy: so, who should jerry be?
  • 00:15:56.134 --> 00:15:57.468
  • Jerry: who god called me to be, and that's the book.
  • 00:15:57.468 --> 00:15:59.337
  • So, there was this time i was reading scripture, and this
  • 00:15:59.337 --> 00:16:03.041
  • Passage of scripture was bothering me when he was
  • 00:16:03.041 --> 00:16:05.643
  • Speaking to jeremiah, and he said, "before you were in your
  • 00:16:05.643 --> 00:16:07.478
  • Mother's womb, i knew you, ordained you a prophet of the
  • 00:16:07.478 --> 00:16:10.348
  • Nation, okay?"
  • 00:16:10.348 --> 00:16:11.682
  • Before you were in your mother's womb, i knew you.
  • 00:16:11.682 --> 00:16:13.017
  • Then we see jesus later say, "many on that day will say lord,
  • 00:16:13.017 --> 00:16:16.888
  • Lord," and then at the end of that he said, "i will tell them
  • 00:16:16.888 --> 00:16:19.457
  • Surely i never knew you, depart from me."
  • 00:16:19.457 --> 00:16:21.893
  • Hold on.
  • 00:16:21.893 --> 00:16:23.961
  • Before you were in your mother's womb, i knew you to part from me
  • 00:16:23.961 --> 00:16:27.598
  • I never knew you, and so i'm sitting there chasing it, and
  • 00:16:27.598 --> 00:16:30.868
  • I'm like, man, i wonder if jeremiah was ordained to be a
  • 00:16:30.868 --> 00:16:34.338
  • Prophet, any other version of himself that he would have
  • 00:16:34.338 --> 00:16:37.608
  • Became is not the you that god created him to be.
  • 00:16:37.608 --> 00:16:40.711
  • So it's possible for you to become a version of yourself
  • 00:16:40.711 --> 00:16:43.848
  • That god never ordained for you to be.
  • 00:16:43.848 --> 00:16:45.817
  • This version of you was never intimate with me, this version
  • 00:16:45.817 --> 00:16:48.319
  • Of you never surrendered to me, this version of you is what
  • 00:16:48.319 --> 00:16:50.955
  • Culture called you to be, it wasn't who i called you to be,
  • 00:16:50.955 --> 00:16:53.724
  • So you lost you.
  • 00:16:53.724 --> 00:16:55.793
  • So the beauty of this book is to get you to a place where i'm the
  • 00:16:55.793 --> 00:16:59.063
  • Original version of myself that god called me to be.
  • 00:16:59.063 --> 00:17:01.766
  • I'm in a relationship with him so that he can remind me and
  • 00:17:01.766 --> 00:17:04.569
  • Show me who i'm discovered to be, who i'm called to be.
  • 00:17:04.569 --> 00:17:07.238
  • So i think that for me has been like mind-blowing, like it's
  • 00:17:07.238 --> 00:17:10.641
  • Possible for you to take on another version of yourself
  • 00:17:10.641 --> 00:17:14.579
  • Because of what everybody else said.
  • 00:17:14.579 --> 00:17:16.247
  • Randy: and you know what's sort of the most ironic part about it
  • 00:17:16.247 --> 00:17:18.516
  • Is the only way you can find the true you is to quit looking at
  • 00:17:18.516 --> 00:17:23.754
  • You and look at jesus, because he created us.
  • 00:17:23.754 --> 00:17:27.658
  • Jerry: yeah, absolutely.
  • 00:17:27.658 --> 00:17:29.026
  • Randy: all right, what do you say, in the short time we have
  • 00:17:29.026 --> 00:17:32.029
  • Left, to the person who's kind of watching this going, man,
  • 00:17:32.029 --> 00:17:35.333
  • He's saying some things that are messing with the way i'm
  • 00:17:35.333 --> 00:17:37.335
  • Thinking, i don't even know where to go from here?
  • 00:17:37.335 --> 00:17:41.038
  • What do you say to encourage them today?
  • 00:17:41.038 --> 00:17:43.541
  • Jerry: i would say you're at the best place that you could
  • 00:17:43.541 --> 00:17:45.143
  • Possibly be, because when the lord starts to do a wrecking
  • 00:17:45.143 --> 00:17:48.779
  • Ball in your life, this means he begins to tear down what you
  • 00:17:48.779 --> 00:17:52.083
  • Thought was truth so that he can introduce the real truth to you.
  • 00:17:52.083 --> 00:17:55.553
  • So, usually if you find yourself feeling wrecked, i think that's
  • 00:17:55.553 --> 00:17:57.955
  • Beautiful, because god now can start to rebuild, so embrace it.
  • 00:17:57.955 --> 00:18:02.460
  • Randy: i love it. that's so true, though.
  • 00:18:02.460 --> 00:18:05.263
  • I mean, and we don't--it don't always fit the way we think,
  • 00:18:05.263 --> 00:18:07.331
  • But it's like, yeah, the best place to be
  • 00:18:07.331 --> 00:18:09.700
  • Is the end of me, more of him.
  • 00:18:09.700 --> 00:18:12.336
  • Jerry: that's it.
  • 00:18:12.336 --> 00:18:13.971
  • Randy: that's it. man, thanks for sharing that.
  • 00:18:13.971 --> 00:18:15.606
  • All right, the book is "heart rehab."
  • 00:18:15.606 --> 00:18:17.141
  • It's available wherever you get books.
  • 00:18:17.141 --> 00:18:20.011
  • And we're gonna show you something that if you're a part
  • 00:18:20.011 --> 00:18:24.482
  • Of our mission outreaches, then you understand this.
  • 00:18:24.482 --> 00:18:27.418
  • But if you're new to this, i wanna invite you into looking
  • 00:18:27.418 --> 00:18:31.689
  • Beyond yourself in a way that will actually help you find who
  • 00:18:31.689 --> 00:18:35.760
  • God has created you to be, because god has called us to be
  • 00:18:35.760 --> 00:18:39.297
  • Generous people.
  • 00:18:39.297 --> 00:18:40.998
  • God has called us to be a reflection of his light in a
  • 00:18:40.998 --> 00:18:46.037
  • Dark place.
  • 00:18:46.037 --> 00:18:47.371
  • He has called us to help heal others in every way, including
  • 00:18:47.371 --> 00:18:52.843
  • In this case the physical.
  • 00:18:52.843 --> 00:18:54.779
  • We want you to be a part of a $600,000 project, because that's
  • 00:18:54.779 --> 00:19:00.184
  • What it'll take to renovate this hospital.
  • 00:19:00.184 --> 00:19:03.788
  • We're calling it the hope for children project, because that's
  • 00:19:03.788 --> 00:19:08.059
  • Exactly what it is.
  • 00:19:08.059 --> 00:19:09.594
  • Randy: i want you to take a look at those two children.
  • 00:19:09.594 --> 00:19:12.630
  • When you look at the before, you see how difficult it is for
  • 00:19:12.630 --> 00:19:17.735
  • Those children.
  • 00:19:17.735 --> 00:19:19.070
  • I don't know how they're walking, but they get around.
  • 00:19:19.070 --> 00:19:21.439
  • But you know what?
  • 00:19:21.439 --> 00:19:22.974
  • It's difficult.
  • 00:19:22.974 --> 00:19:24.308
  • When you see those after pictures, the children running,
  • 00:19:24.308 --> 00:19:29.080
  • That is such a beautiful picture of what's happening right now
  • 00:19:29.080 --> 00:19:33.684
  • With our partners there in zimbabwe at that hospital.
  • 00:19:33.684 --> 00:19:37.255
  • But listen, they need more space, they need more surgical
  • 00:19:37.255 --> 00:19:43.661
  • Rooms so that they can accommodate more children.
  • 00:19:43.661 --> 00:19:46.163
  • Those doctors are so dedicated.
  • 00:19:46.163 --> 00:19:50.001
  • Those brothers and sisters in christ with you and i who are
  • 00:19:50.001 --> 00:19:53.271
  • Followers of jesus, the first thing they do with a child who's
  • 00:19:53.271 --> 00:19:57.441
  • Coming in for surgery is they pray with them, they share god's
  • 00:19:57.441 --> 00:20:02.913
  • Love in word and deed.
  • 00:20:02.913 --> 00:20:06.217
  • I love those doctors who say we are tools in god's hands, and
  • 00:20:06.217 --> 00:20:10.655
  • You know what?
  • 00:20:10.655 --> 00:20:12.023
  • Their skill, their time, their expertise, they give freely.
  • 00:20:12.023 --> 00:20:17.628
  • Those children, the families of those children, they don't pay a
  • 00:20:17.628 --> 00:20:22.533
  • Thing for those surgeries.
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  • Their lives are changed because of the love of god and the
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  • Support of people just like you.
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  • You can give hope, you can give a new opportunity at life for so
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  • Many children.
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  • Randy: i do hope you'll call right now.
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  • And we need to hear from you soon, because this is a
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  • Short-term thing.
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  • We gotta get this thing going.
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  • We gotta get those kids in there and get them healed.
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  • So i appreciate you being a part of it.
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  • Appreciate you listening today, and jerry, i appreciate you
  • 00:22:36.000 --> 00:22:37.935
  • Being on the program.
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  • For anybody who wants to follow up with you, see what's going
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  • On, what's the best website for them to hit?
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  • Jerry: redefinedtv.net.
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  • Randy: redefinedtv.net, all right.
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  • So, man, i appreciate you and the word you're sharing,
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  • Blessings down there in houston and all the people that come.
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  • Hey, we appreciate you being here.
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  • Come back, we've got more great guests.
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  • I want you to be a part of it next time on "life today."
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  • [music]
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  • Jennifer rothschild: hi, i'm jennifer rothschild.
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  • I have something with me that i love and treasure.
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  • It's my dad's bible.
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  • I wonder if you have anything like that that's special to you?
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  • The reason this is so precious to me is my dad was my pastor,
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  • And i remember as a little girl, you know, this was back in the
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  • Day when church would end and the pastor would stand outside,
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  • And he would shake everyone's hands as they would leave.
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  • And i remember my daddy handing me this bible while he would
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  • Shake hands.
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  • I wish you could smell the leather.
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  • It's so fragrant.
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  • And the sound of the pages, the same.
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  • But here's the thing, when i open this bible to look at it,
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  • My eyes can't see this bible.
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  • I became blind as a 15 year old girl.
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  • And so now i've lived in physical darkness longer than i
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  • Ever lived in physical sight.
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  • So, i can't see the words in this bible, but it's still
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  • Precious to me.
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  • And here's why.
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  • My dad went to heaven in 2018, and i thought my heart would
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  • Break into a million pieces.
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  • You may know what that feels 'cause you've lost somebody
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  • You love.
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  • And we feel like sometimes when that happens, our hearts are
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  • Never going to heal.
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  • When we came home from the funeral, my mother gave me this
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  • Bible of my dad's.
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  • I didn't know that he had left instruction with my mom that
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  • When he passed, i should receive this particular bible.
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  • It was his first preaching bible, the one i held as a
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  • Little girl at the end of church, the one i watched him
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  • Studying every saturday before church on sunday.
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  • I love it.
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  • It's such a treasure.
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  • And i carry it with me as a reminder of my dad.
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  • And in some ways it helps me feel, you know, just close to
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  • My dad.
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  • And i know as i share this with you, there's someone in your
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  • Life you're thinking of.
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  • And so i wanna encourage you with this.
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  • Yeah, when i hold this bible, it makes me remember my dad and
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  • Feel closer to him.
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  • But you know what else really ministers to me and helps me
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  • Feel close to my daddy is when i worship.
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  • Because do you realize that when we worship here on earth, when
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  • We're fixing our gaze on jesus, when we're either alone in our
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  • Own prayer closet or in our congregation at church with our
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  • Brothers and sisters, when you're alone in your hospital
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  • Room, when you're in your car listening to christian music and
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  • Praising, when you are worshiping here on earth, you
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  • Are doing the exact same thing that is happening even now
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  • Around the throne.
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  • I am never closer to my dad who is in heaven than i am when i'm
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  • Worshiping because right now, right now around the throne,
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  • According to revelation chapter 7, there's a multitude from
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  • Every tribe and every nation and every tongue, and they are
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  • Worshiping, singing, "salvation belongs to the lord," and they
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  • Are crying out, "holy is the lamb," so if you're missing that
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  • Person who you love, if you're missing the loved one who's gone
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  • Ahead of you and is already in heaven, maybe one of the best
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  • Ways that you and i can handle our grief is to worship because
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  • When we worship, we are never closer, never closer than we are
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  • In that very moment to the loved one we've lost because our
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  • Hearts are fixed on the same thing, and that is jesus, the
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  • Lamb, the treasure of heaven, the one whose death allows us to
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  • Be reunited with the person we loved and lost.
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  • So, let's be people who love well, who grieve well, and who
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  • Never stop worshiping.
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  • Chad prather: whether it was the bottom of a bottle of alcohol
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  • Or the bottom of a bag of drugs, wherever i could try to find
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  • That reality is where i was looking.
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  • Announcer: chad prather, next week.
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