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Life Today with James Robison | John Burke - Beyond Death | July 4, 2025
- Coming up on life today!
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- Bestselling author john burke explores
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- The phenomenon of near-death experiences.
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- >> the best way to liken it is think about a painting
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- On a wall, a black and white painting
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- On a wall in a home here. right?
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- Imagine if that's our world and our life
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- And death is separation.
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- So you get ripped out of that painting
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- Into this three-dimensional world of this room
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- And you experience three dimensions of color
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- But you've only known two dimensions,
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- And black and white...
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- ♪
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- James: thank you all
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- James: thank you all very much.
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- James: thank you all very much. i welcome you.
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- Very much. i welcome you. i'm james robison.
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- I welcome you. i'm james robison. betty and i have a guest that
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- I'm james robison. betty and i have a guest that we're really grateful
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- Betty and i have a guest that we're really grateful to talk to.
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- The book he has written
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- The book he has written is called imagine heaven .
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- The book he has written is called imagine heaven . he has spent years talking
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- Is called imagine heaven . he has spent years talking to people, i mean hundreds
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- He has spent years talking to people, i mean hundreds of people who've had
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- To people, i mean hundreds of people who've had near-death experiences.
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- Of people who've had near-death experiences. i'm telling you, it's
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- Near-death experiences. i'm telling you, it's a new york times bestseller.
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- Would you like to?
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- Would you like to? let's welcome john burke.
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- Let's welcome john burke. john: thank you so much
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- John: thank you so much for having me on your show.
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- For having me on your show. james: i hope you're taking
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- James: i hope you're taking care of my town down there.
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- Care of my town down there. your football team struggled
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- Well, you won some!
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- John: well, it started for me
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- John: well, it started for me when i was a skeptic.
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- When i was a skeptic. when i was young i thought
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- I didn't know what
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- I didn't know what i believed about god.
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- I didn't know what i believed about god. but my father was dying
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- I believed about god. but my father was dying of cancer.
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- But my father was dying of cancer. one night i saw on
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- Of cancer. one night i saw on his bedstand, someone had
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- One night i saw on his bedstand, someone had given him a book called
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- His bedstand, someone had given him a book called life after life.
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- Given him a book called life after life. and it was the first book...
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- Life after life. and it was the first book... james: life after what?
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- And it was the first book... james: life after what? john: life after life.
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- James: life after what? john: life after life. it was the first book
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- John: life after life. it was the first book that coined the term
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- It was the first book that coined the term "near-death experience."
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- That coined the term "near-death experience." that's when someone has
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- "near-death experience." that's when someone has a heart attack or
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- That's when someone has a heart attack or their brain waves cease.
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- A heart attack or their brain waves cease. they are clinically dead
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- Their brain waves cease. they are clinically dead and yet modern medicine
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- They are clinically dead and yet modern medicine resuscitates them.
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- And yet modern medicine resuscitates them. they come back talking about
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- Resuscitates them. they come back talking about how, "but i wasn't dead!
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- They come back talking about how, "but i wasn't dead! there's something else!"
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- How, "but i wasn't dead! there's something else!" i read that book in one night
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- There's something else!" i read that book in one night and i said at the end of it,
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- I read that book in one night and i said at the end of it, oh my gosh!
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- And i said at the end of it, oh my gosh! jesus, i think you're real!
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- Oh my gosh! jesus, i think you're real! james: how old were you?
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- Jesus, i think you're real! james: how old were you? john: i was 16 at the time.
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- James: how old were you? john: i was 16 at the time. moody, who wrote that book,
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- John: i was 16 at the time. moody, who wrote that book, was not a christian; he didn't
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- Moody, who wrote that book, was not a christian; he didn't lead people that way.
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- Was not a christian; he didn't lead people that way. that's what i concluded
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- Lead people that way. that's what i concluded just hearing their stories.
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- That's what i concluded just hearing their stories. so that took me on a journey.
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- Just hearing their stories. so that took me on a journey. the next year was when
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- So that took me on a journey. the next year was when i actually got into a small
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- The next year was when i actually got into a small group bible study,
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- I actually got into a small group bible study, asked my questions,
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- Group bible study, asked my questions, came to faith in christ.
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- Asked my questions, came to faith in christ. since then, i went from
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- Came to faith in christ. since then, i went from a career in engineering,
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- Since then, i went from a career in engineering, so i'm skeptical by nature.
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- A career in engineering, so i'm skeptical by nature. i ask a lot of questions.
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- So i'm skeptical by nature. i ask a lot of questions. into ministry,
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- I ask a lot of questions. into ministry, through seminary.
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- Into ministry, through seminary. so for the last 35 years
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- Through seminary. so for the last 35 years i've not only intensely
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- So for the last 35 years i've not only intensely studied the bible,
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- I've not only intensely studied the bible, but i have studied about
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- Studied the bible, but i have studied about a thousand of these
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- But i have studied about a thousand of these near-death experiences
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- A thousand of these near-death experiences because i've always wanted
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- Near-death experiences because i've always wanted to understand what are those
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- Because i've always wanted to understand what are those and how do they reconcile
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- To understand what are those and how do they reconcile with what scripture says?
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- And how do they reconcile with what scripture says? james: tell me what
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- With what scripture says? james: tell me what you found out.
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- James: tell me what you found out. john: well, what's really
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- You found out. john: well, what's really important is understanding
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- John: well, what's really important is understanding that what people come back
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- Important is understanding that what people come back to try to describe is truly
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- That what people come back to try to describe is truly of another dimension.
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- To try to describe is truly of another dimension. the best way to liken it
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- Of another dimension. the best way to liken it is think about a painting
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- The best way to liken it is think about a painting on a wall, a black and white
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- Is think about a painting on a wall, a black and white painting on a wall
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- On a wall, a black and white painting on a wall in a home here. right?
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- Painting on a wall in a home here. right? imagine if that's our world
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- In a home here. right? imagine if that's our world and our life and death
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- Imagine if that's our world and our life and death is separation.
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- And our life and death is separation. so you get ripped out
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- Is separation. so you get ripped out of that painting into
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- So you get ripped out of that painting into this three-dimensional world
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- Of that painting into this three-dimensional world of this room and you
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- This three-dimensional world of this room and you experience three dimensions
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- Of this room and you experience three dimensions of color but you've only
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- Experience three dimensions of color but you've only known two dimensions
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- Of color but you've only known two dimensions and black and white.
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- Known two dimensions and black and white. now you're put back into
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- And black and white. now you're put back into the flat painting and
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- Now you're put back into the flat painting and you have to describe
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- The flat painting and you have to describe three dimensions of color
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- You have to describe three dimensions of color in two-dimensional
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- Three dimensions of color in two-dimensional black and white words.
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- In two-dimensional black and white words. that's what people
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- Black and white words. that's what people are trying to explain.
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- That's what people are trying to explain. so, as a result they are all
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- Are trying to explain. so, as a result they are all interpreting an experience.
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- So, as a result they are all interpreting an experience. they're going to interpret it
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- Interpreting an experience. they're going to interpret it in their own framework.
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- They're going to interpret it in their own framework. now, when you look at what
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- In their own framework. now, when you look at what they are commonly trying
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- Now, when you look at what they are commonly trying to say, and that's what
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- They are commonly trying to say, and that's what i'm doing, is taking
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- To say, and that's what i'm doing, is taking these thousand near-death
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- I'm doing, is taking these thousand near-death experiences and i take
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- These thousand near-death experiences and i take about 120 of their stories
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- Experiences and i take about 120 of their stories to let you hear
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- About 120 of their stories to let you hear through their words how this
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- To let you hear through their words how this actually correlates with what
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- Through their words how this actually correlates with what the bible said all along
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- Actually correlates with what the bible said all along about what we should expect
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- The bible said all along about what we should expect of the life to come.
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- James: did you find common
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- James: did you find common experiences, descriptions,
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- James: did you find common experiences, descriptions, that you found consistent
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- Experiences, descriptions, that you found consistent with what another said
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- That you found consistent with what another said that in a skeptic's mind
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- Actually seemed to make sense
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- Actually seemed to make sense and would have as a person
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- Actually seemed to make sense and would have as a person then who's been studying
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- And would have as a person then who's been studying the bible, consistent, not
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- Then who's been studying the bible, consistent, not contradictory of scripture?
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- The bible, consistent, not contradictory of scripture? john: absolutely! yes.
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- Contradictory of scripture? john: absolutely! yes. james: so i know you go over
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- John: absolutely! yes. james: so i know you go over them very, very thoroughly
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- James: so i know you go over them very, very thoroughly in the book which is why
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- Them very, very thoroughly in the book which is why it's a bestseller,
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- In the book which is why it's a bestseller, which is why betty and i heard
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- It's a bestseller, which is why betty and i heard about it, which is why betty
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- Which is why betty and i heard about it, which is why betty immediately started reading
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- What are the common elements?
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- What are the common elements? john: well, the first is,
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- John: well, the first is, when people die
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- When people die they don't feel dead.
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- They don't feel dead. they feel more alive than
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- They feel more alive than they've ever been before.
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- They've ever been before. they say they come alive.
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- But it's a spiritual body.
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- But it's a spiritual body. and they often say, it wasn't
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- But it's a spiritual body. and they often say, it wasn't like i had five senses.
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- And they often say, it wasn't like i had five senses. i still could touch, taste...
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- Like i had five senses. i still could touch, taste... but i had more like
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- I still could touch, taste... but i had more like 50 senses.
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- But i had more like 50 senses. the senses were heightened,
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- 50 senses. the senses were heightened, like sight that
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- The senses were heightened, like sight that you could see for miles.
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- Like sight that you could see for miles. or hearing, or touch.
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- You could see for miles. or hearing, or touch. everything was supercharged.
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- Or hearing, or touch. everything was supercharged. now, what's interesting is
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- Everything was supercharged. now, what's interesting is they usually stay within
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- Now, what's interesting is they usually stay within the room and are usually
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- They usually stay within the room and are usually up above looking down
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- The room and are usually up above looking down at their own resuscitation.
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- Up above looking down at their own resuscitation. and in chapter two i write
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- At their own resuscitation. and in chapter two i write about skeptical doctors
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- And in chapter two i write about skeptical doctors and the afterlife.
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- About skeptical doctors and the afterlife. and i write about many
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- And the afterlife. and i write about many skeptical cardiologists
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- And i write about many skeptical cardiologists and oncologists who,
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- Skeptical cardiologists and oncologists who, interviewing their patients,
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- And oncologists who, interviewing their patients, changed their view.
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- Interviewing their patients, changed their view. they thought when you died
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- Changed their view. they thought when you died it's lights out, done.
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- They thought when you died it's lights out, done. you're over.
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- It's lights out, done. you're over. and they changed their view
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- You're over. and they changed their view to believe no, consciousness
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- And they changed their view to believe no, consciousness lasts beyond the grave.
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- To believe no, consciousness lasts beyond the grave. now, whether they get it
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- Lasts beyond the grave. now, whether they get it that it connects the bible
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- Now, whether they get it that it connects the bible or not isn't always clear.
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- That it connects the bible or not isn't always clear. james: but they got that this
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- John: yeah! because of
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- John: yeah! because of very verifiable things
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- Very verifiable things that have been reported.
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- That have been reported. so, for instance...
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- So, for instance... james: that are consistent?
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- James: that are consistent? john: yeah.
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- John: yeah. so this has been reported
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- Medical association.
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- Medical association. about 900 scholarly journals
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- Medical association. about 900 scholarly journals have written on this now.
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- About 900 scholarly journals have written on this now. gallop poll says
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- Have written on this now. gallop poll says one out of 25 people have
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- Gallop poll says one out of 25 people have had a near-death experience.
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- One out of 25 people have had a near-death experience. this is not uncommon.
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- Had a near-death experience. this is not uncommon. but christians have not
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- This is not uncommon. but christians have not wrestled with okay, but
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- But christians have not wrestled with okay, but we need to reconcile it
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- Wrestled with okay, but we need to reconcile it to the scriptures.
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- We need to reconcile it to the scriptures. how do we do that?
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- To the scriptures. how do we do that? it's what i was trying to do.
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- How do we do that? it's what i was trying to do. and it does.
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- It's what i was trying to do. and it does. so paul said...
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- And it does. so paul said... i believe paul had
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- So paul said... i believe paul had a near-death experience.
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- I believe paul had a near-death experience. acts chapter 14 he's stoned
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- A near-death experience. acts chapter 14 he's stoned to death, dragged out
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- Acts chapter 14 he's stoned to death, dragged out of the city, left for dead.
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- To death, dragged out of the city, left for dead. and then he gets up and
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- Of the city, left for dead. and then he gets up and goes back into the city.
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- And then he gets up and goes back into the city. personally, i don't think
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- Goes back into the city. personally, i don't think i would have gone back
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- Personally, i don't think i would have gone back in the city that just
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- I would have gone back in the city that just stoned me to death.
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- In the city that just stoned me to death. [laughter]
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- Stoned me to death. [laughter] james: he did refer to it like
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- [laughter] james: he did refer to it like an out of body experience.
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- James: he did refer to it like an out of body experience. john: in first corinthians 12
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- An out of body experience. john: in first corinthians 12 he says - he talks about
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- John: in first corinthians 12 he says - he talks about himself 14 years ago,
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- He says - he talks about himself 14 years ago, whether in the body
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- Himself 14 years ago, whether in the body or out of the body
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- Whether in the body or out of the body i don't know. why?
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- Or out of the body i don't know. why? because you still feel
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- I don't know. why? because you still feel like you have a body.
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- Because you still feel like you have a body. and he talks about being
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- Like you have a body. and he talks about being taken up into heaven and
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- And he talks about being taken up into heaven and seeing inexpressible things.
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- Taken up into heaven and seeing inexpressible things. but he also talks about,
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- Seeing inexpressible things. but he also talks about, in first corinthians 15,
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- But he also talks about, in first corinthians 15, that our bodies are sown
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- In first corinthians 15, that our bodies are sown a natural body, but they're
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- That our bodies are sown a natural body, but they're raised a spiritual body.
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- A natural body, but they're raised a spiritual body. they're sown in weakness
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- Raised a spiritual body. they're sown in weakness but they're raised in power.
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- They're sown in weakness but they're raised in power. james: do many of them express
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- But they're raised in power. james: do many of them express that there's a power
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- James: do many of them express that there's a power that they've sensed
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- That there's a power that they've sensed in this other realm?
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- That they've sensed in this other realm? john: the way they describe it
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- In this other realm? john: the way they describe it is, "i had never felt
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- John: the way they describe it is, "i had never felt so alive in my life."
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- Is, "i had never felt so alive in my life." they come back and they say
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- So alive in my life." they come back and they say this life is the shadow.
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- They come back and they say this life is the shadow. that's the real thing.
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- This life is the shadow. that's the real thing. this is the less -
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- That's the real thing. this is the less - we think of heaven and
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- This is the less - we think of heaven and we think fuzzy, ethereal,
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- We think of heaven and we think fuzzy, ethereal, boring, hanging out on clouds
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- We think fuzzy, ethereal, boring, hanging out on clouds wishing you'd brought
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- Boring, hanging out on clouds wishing you'd brought a magazine.
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- Wishing you'd brought a magazine. or people think
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- A magazine. or people think it's going to be an endless
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- Or people think it's going to be an endless church service.
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- It's going to be an endless church service. i'm a pastor and
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- Church service. i'm a pastor and that sounds bad to me.
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- I'm a pastor and that sounds bad to me. james: a lot of people
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- That sounds bad to me. james: a lot of people just checked out.
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- James: a lot of people just checked out. [laughter]
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- Just checked out. [laughter] john: it's going to
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- [laughter] john: it's going to be life fully!
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- John: it's going to be life fully! that's what jesus said.
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- Be life fully! that's what jesus said. hey, i'm going to prepare
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- That's what jesus said. hey, i'm going to prepare a place for you.
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- People consistently say.
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- People consistently say. so yes, like in the lancet ,
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- So yes, like in the lancet , a medical journal in europe,
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- Who is brought into
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- Who is brought into the hospital there.
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- Who is brought into the hospital there. he was comatose.
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- The hospital there. he was comatose. he had had a heart attack.
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- He was comatose. he had had a heart attack. the nurse realized before
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- He had had a heart attack. the nurse realized before they intubated him
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- The nurse realized before they intubated him and shocked his heart
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- They intubated him and shocked his heart he had dentures.
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- And shocked his heart he had dentures. so they took the dentures out,
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- He had dentures. so they took the dentures out, put them in a lower drawer
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- So they took the dentures out, put them in a lower drawer of the crash cart.
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- Put them in a lower drawer of the crash cart. his heart started beating
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- Of the crash cart. his heart started beating but he never came to
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- His heart started beating but he never came to in the e.r.; rolled him
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- But he never came to in the e.r.; rolled him out to another room.
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- In the e.r.; rolled him out to another room. a week later he comes to.
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- Out to another room. a week later he comes to. he sees that nurse and says
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- A week later he comes to. he sees that nurse and says that's the nurse who knows
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- He sees that nurse and says that's the nurse who knows where my lost dentures are.
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- That's the nurse who knows where my lost dentures are. [laughter]
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- Said he was up above
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- Said he was up above watching everything and that
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- Watching everything and that nurse took my dentures
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- Nurse took my dentures and put them in
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- And put them in the lower drawer of the cart
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- The lower drawer of the cart with all the bottles on it.
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- With all the bottles on it. and that's common.
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- John: there are many,
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- John: there are many, many stories like that
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- John: there are many, many stories like that that have convinced people,
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- Many stories like that that have convinced people, okay, we really do live on.
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- That have convinced people, okay, we really do live on. now, what happens is
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- Okay, we really do live on. now, what happens is what i'm trying to show.
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- Now, what happens is what i'm trying to show. the beauty of heaven
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- What i'm trying to show. the beauty of heaven that christians talk about,
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- The beauty of heaven that christians talk about, and that's what is
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- That christians talk about, and that's what is so encouraging is more
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- And that's what is so encouraging is more and more christians were
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- So encouraging is more and more christians were having these experiences
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- And more christians were having these experiences and talking about them.
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- Having these experiences and talking about them. early on they didn't because
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- And talking about them. early on they didn't because new age researchers took it
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- Early on they didn't because new age researchers took it and interpreted what was
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- New age researchers took it and interpreted what was being said in more of
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- And interpreted what was being said in more of a new age slant.
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- Being said in more of a new age slant. for instance, all
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- A new age slant. for instance, all the experiences were good.
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- For instance, all the experiences were good. well, that's because
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- The experiences were good. well, that's because only people who heard of
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- Well, that's because only people who heard of these good experiences
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- Only people who heard of these good experiences and had good experiences
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- These good experiences and had good experiences came forward.
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- And had good experiences came forward. but since we found out
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- Came forward. but since we found out no, that's not true,
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- But since we found out no, that's not true, people don't often
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- No, that's not true, people don't often come forward but
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- People don't often come forward but 23% of those who do
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- Come forward but 23% of those who do come forward to share this,
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- 23% of those who do come forward to share this, they don't come forward
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- Come forward to share this, they don't come forward because it's so sacred
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- They don't come forward because it's so sacred to them, they don't want
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- Because it's so sacred to them, they don't want to be made fun of.
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- To them, they don't want to be made fun of. 23 percent come forward
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- To be made fun of. 23 percent come forward saying they had
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- 23 percent come forward saying they had hellish experiences.
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- Saying they had hellish experiences. so they're not all good.
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- Hellish experiences. so they're not all good. james: horrific.
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- So they're not all good. james: horrific. more horrific than
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- James: horrific. more horrific than they might have imagined?
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- More horrific than they might have imagined? john: and i interview
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- They might have imagined? john: and i interview a tenured college professor
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- John: and i interview a tenured college professor who was an atheist
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- A tenured college professor who was an atheist who dies in paris -
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- Who was an atheist who dies in paris - duodenum ruptures.
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- Who dies in paris - duodenum ruptures. he can't get surgery. he dies.
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- Duodenum ruptures. he can't get surgery. he dies. this is really important
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- He can't get surgery. he dies. this is really important because i've discovered
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- This is really important because i've discovered some interpretive keys
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- Because i've discovered some interpretive keys to these stories.
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- Some interpretive keys to these stories. because if you just go read
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- To these stories. because if you just go read near-death experience stories
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- Because if you just go read near-death experience stories you could get really confused.
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- Near-death experience stories you could get really confused. some things about how does
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- You could get really confused. some things about how does that relate to the bible?
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- Some things about how does that relate to the bible? but they're some interpretive
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- That relate to the bible? but they're some interpretive keys and one of them is
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- But they're some interpretive keys and one of them is that people often say
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- Keys and one of them is that people often say there was a border
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- That people often say there was a border or a boundary they knew
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- There was a border or a boundary they knew they couldn't cross
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- Or a boundary they knew they couldn't cross on the other side or
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- They couldn't cross on the other side or they couldn't come back.
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- On the other side or they couldn't come back. so this is not
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- They couldn't come back. so this is not full biological death.
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- So this is not full biological death. it's a peek in, but there is
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- Full biological death. it's a peek in, but there is a border or a boundary
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- It's a peek in, but there is a border or a boundary you can't cross.
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- A border or a boundary you can't cross. so we can't tell from
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- You can't cross. so we can't tell from near-death experiences
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- So we can't tell from near-death experiences what eternity is like.
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- Near-death experiences what eternity is like. we can tell that from
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- What eternity is like. we can tell that from what jesus and the prophets
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- We can tell that from what jesus and the prophets told us,
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- What jesus and the prophets told us, because god revealed it.
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- Told us, because god revealed it. so that's the bigger
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- Because god revealed it. so that's the bigger framework we've got
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- So that's the bigger framework we've got to fit these into.
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- Framework we've got to fit these into. but howard storm,
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- To fit these into. but howard storm, this professor, dies.
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- But howard storm, this professor, dies. he thought it was going
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- This professor, dies. he thought it was going to be lights out, but
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- He thought it was going to be lights out, but he's more alive than
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- Like 50 senses not just five.
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- Like 50 senses not just five. and another commonality
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- And another commonality is that people often have
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- Is that people often have friends and relatives who
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- Friends and relatives who have passed on before them
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- Have passed on before them come and welcome them.
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- Come and welcome them. it is this joyous reunion.
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- It is this joyous reunion. it's like this incredible,
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- It's like this incredible, just bursting with joy -
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- Just bursting with joy - we're ourselves.
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- We're ourselves. we recognize each other.
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- We recognize each other. we still know our memories.
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- Continued but much,
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- Continued but much, much better because
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- Continued but much, much better because communication is purer.
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- Much better because communication is purer. we know each other
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- Communication is purer. we know each other thought to thought.
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- We know each other thought to thought. james: then, when they come
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- Thought to thought. james: then, when they come back are they expressing
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- James: then, when they come back are they expressing disappointment, after where
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- Back are they expressing disappointment, after where they were and -- ?
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- Disappointment, after where they were and -- ? john: they don't want
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- They were and -- ? john: they don't want to be here.
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- John: they don't want to be here. many of them are depressed.
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- To be here. many of them are depressed. james: they thought they had
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- Many of them are depressed. james: they thought they had really gotten to the ultimate?
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- James: they thought they had really gotten to the ultimate? john: yeah. but this
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- Really gotten to the ultimate? john: yeah. but this atheist college professor,
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- John: yeah. but this atheist college professor, initially it was all good,
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- Atheist college professor, initially it was all good, and he even had a group
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- Initially it was all good, and he even had a group of people who were saying,
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- And he even had a group of people who were saying, "come with us, howard."
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- Of people who were saying, "come with us, howard." and he thought they were
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- "come with us, howard." and he thought they were hospital staff.
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- And he thought they were hospital staff. he didn't know he was dead.
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- Hospital staff. he didn't know he was dead. he couldn't figure it out
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- He didn't know he was dead. he couldn't figure it out because he felt alive.
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- He couldn't figure it out because he felt alive. but they were saying,
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- Because he felt alive. but they were saying, "come with us.
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- But they were saying, "come with us. we're going to help you."
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- "come with us. we're going to help you." but they deceived him
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- We're going to help you." but they deceived him and led him into an outer
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- But they deceived him and led him into an outer darkness and it was horrific.
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- And led him into an outer darkness and it was horrific. when i interviewed him,
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- Darkness and it was horrific. when i interviewed him, he couldn't tell me about it.
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- When i interviewed him, he couldn't tell me about it. he said, "they did such
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- He couldn't tell me about it. he said, "they did such horrific things that
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- He said, "they did such horrific things that i've been trying
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- Horrific things that i've been trying to block it out."
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- I've been trying to block it out." because he had not crossed
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- To block it out." because he had not crossed that boundary i think he still
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- Because he had not crossed that boundary i think he still could call out to god.
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- That boundary i think he still could call out to god. he remembered when
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- Could call out to god. he remembered when a neighbor brought him
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- He remembered when a neighbor brought him to sunday school as a kid
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- A neighbor brought him to sunday school as a kid and a song came to his mind,
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- To sunday school as a kid and a song came to his mind, "jesus loves me."
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- And a song came to his mind, "jesus loves me." that's all he could remember.
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- "jesus loves me." that's all he could remember. and he wanted that to be true
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- That's all he could remember. and he wanted that to be true like nothing else.
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- And he wanted that to be true like nothing else. and he cries out,
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- Like nothing else. and he cries out, "jesus, save me!"
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- And he cries out, "jesus, save me!" and he says into this
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- "jesus, save me!" and he says into this utter blackness comes
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- And he says into this utter blackness comes this brilliant man of light,
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- Utter blackness comes this brilliant man of light, brighter than the sun
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- This brilliant man of light, brighter than the sun but not hard to look at,
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- Brighter than the sun but not hard to look at, unconditional love,
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- But not hard to look at, unconditional love, wraps him up, holds him
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- Unconditional love, wraps him up, holds him to his chest.
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- Wraps him up, holds him to his chest. he is healed.
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- To his chest. he is healed. takes him out of there
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- He is healed. takes him out of there and there he gets
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- Takes him out of there and there he gets a life review.
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- And there he gets a life review. so he relives his life
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- A life review. so he relives his life in the presence of jesus
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- So he relives his life in the presence of jesus and the angels and this
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- In the presence of jesus and the angels and this is another commonality,
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- And the angels and this is another commonality, by the way.
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- Is another commonality, by the way. so another commonality
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- By the way. so another commonality is that people all around
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- So another commonality is that people all around the globe experience
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- Is that people all around the globe experience this brilliant god of light
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- The globe experience this brilliant god of light who is unconditional love.
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- This brilliant god of light who is unconditional love. he knows them, he's personal,
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- Who is unconditional love. he knows them, he's personal, he knows their every thought
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- He knows them, he's personal, he knows their every thought and motive.
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- He knows their every thought and motive. and in his present state,
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- And motive. and in his present state, review their lives.
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- And in his present state, review their lives. they re-experience
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- Review their lives. they re-experience their lives.
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- They re-experience their lives. james: all this is happening
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- Their lives. james: all this is happening in rapid time.
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- Is not the same.
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- Is not the same. you experience past,
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- You experience past, present, and future
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- Present, and future in a different way.
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- In a different way. they say, "i don't know if
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- They say, "i don't know if it was an instant or i relived
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- Which sounds an awful lot
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- Which sounds an awful lot like second peter 3,
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- Which sounds an awful lot like second peter 3, "to the lord a day is like
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- Like second peter 3, "to the lord a day is like a thousand years, and
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- "to the lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years is like
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- A thousand years, and a thousand years is like a day." right?
- 00:13:41.377 --> 00:13:42.978
- A thousand years is like a day." right? so you start to see all
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- A day." right? so you start to see all these commonalities but
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- So you start to see all these commonalities but all across the globe
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- These commonalities but all across the globe they don't describe the god
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- All across the globe they don't describe the god of their culture,
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- They don't describe the god of their culture, they describe the god of
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- Of their culture, they describe the god of the bible, the god who said
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- They describe the god of the bible, the god who said i am the light of the world.
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- The bible, the god who said i am the light of the world. james: that's another
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- I am the light of the world. james: that's another consistency?
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- Unconditional love, who
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- Unconditional love, who knows them by name personally
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- Knows them by name personally and they never want to leave
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- And they never want to leave his presence.
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- His presence. they never want to leave
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- They never want to leave his presence.
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- Because what's confused
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- Because what's confused christians is why doesn't
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- Because what's confused christians is why doesn't jesus tell them i'm jesus?
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- Christians is why doesn't jesus tell them i'm jesus? because those who know jesus,
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- Jesus tell them i'm jesus? because those who know jesus, know he's jesus.
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- Because those who know jesus, know he's jesus. they absolutely know it.
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- Know he's jesus. they absolutely know it. but jesus said, "my sheep
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- They absolutely know it. but jesus said, "my sheep know my voice; they hear me
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- But jesus said, "my sheep know my voice; they hear me and they follow me." right?
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- Know my voice; they hear me and they follow me." right? sometimes we think, well,
- 00:14:26.388 --> 00:14:29.058
- And they follow me." right? sometimes we think, well, why doesn't god just
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- Sometimes we think, well, why doesn't god just tell them, "i'm jesus"?
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- Why doesn't god just tell them, "i'm jesus"? as if he couldn't do that now
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- Tell them, "i'm jesus"? as if he couldn't do that now if he wanted to.
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- As if he couldn't do that now if he wanted to. he's not limited. right?
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- If he wanted to. he's not limited. right? so, he's doing
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- He's not limited. right? so, he's doing these things on purpose.
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- So, he's doing these things on purpose. what they do come back
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- These things on purpose. what they do come back consistently knowing
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- What they do come back consistently knowing is that god is love and what
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- Consistently knowing is that god is love and what he shows in their life review
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- Is that god is love and what he shows in their life review is the most important thing
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- He shows in their life review is the most important thing is how they treated all the
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- Is the most important thing is how they treated all the people they interacted with
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- Is how they treated all the people they interacted with and how love is
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- People they interacted with and how love is what's most important
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- And how love is what's most important and how every little action,
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- What's most important and how every little action, for good or bad,
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- And how every little action, for good or bad, had a ripple effect
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- For good or bad, had a ripple effect and mattered to him.
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- Had a ripple effect and mattered to him. so, love god and love people.
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- And mattered to him. so, love god and love people. that's what
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- So, love god and love people. that's what they come back with.
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- That's what they come back with. james: amazing. the ultimate,
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- The two great commandments.
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- The two great commandments. betty, you've been
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- The two great commandments. betty, you've been studying that.
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- Betty, you've been studying that. betty: he mentioned earlier
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- About some of the stories
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- About some of the stories - every story it seems like
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- About some of the stories - every story it seems like they could not describe
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- - every story it seems like they could not describe enough how beautiful,
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- They could not describe enough how beautiful, extraordinary everything was.
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- Enough how beautiful, extraordinary everything was. like you said, it was
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- Extraordinary everything was. like you said, it was like depth after depth.
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- Like you said, it was like depth after depth. everything was alive.
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- Like depth after depth. everything was alive. john: and not unlike earth,
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- Everything was alive. john: and not unlike earth, and i interview people
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- John: and not unlike earth, and i interview people who like doctors
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- And i interview people who like doctors and twa airline pilots
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- Who like doctors and twa airline pilots and like this college
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- And twa airline pilots and like this college professor who then became
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- And like this college professor who then became a pastor.
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- Professor who then became a pastor. he left his tenured
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- A pastor. he left his tenured college professorship
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- He left his tenured college professorship to become a christian pastor,
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- Experience.
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- Experience. but these people who don't
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- But these people who don't need to make up crazy stories
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- Need to make up crazy stories to go sell books
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- To go sell books and make money,
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- And make money, and in fact it hurts
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- And in fact it hurts their careers.
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- Their careers. yet they are saying
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- James: well, you know,
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- James: well, you know, this is not the place
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- James: well, you know, this is not the place anybody wants to miss.
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- This is not the place anybody wants to miss. i've met jesus,
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- Anybody wants to miss. i've met jesus, and he's believable
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- I've met jesus, and he's believable and i've experienced enough
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- And he's believable and i've experienced enough of the presence of heaven
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- And i've experienced enough of the presence of heaven as he presents it
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- Of the presence of heaven as he presents it in my life to be able to see.
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- As he presents it in my life to be able to see. you can't embellish it
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- In my life to be able to see. you can't embellish it beyond reality, the heaven
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- You can't embellish it beyond reality, the heaven is beyond embellishment.
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- Beyond reality, the heaven is beyond embellishment. it's beyond exaggeration.
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- Is beyond embellishment. it's beyond exaggeration. it's beyond imagination.
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- It's beyond exaggeration. it's beyond imagination. it's real and he offers it,
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- It's beyond imagination. it's real and he offers it, he offers a great peace
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- It's real and he offers it, he offers a great peace that passes understanding now,
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- He offers a great peace that passes understanding now, and comfort.
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- That passes understanding now, and comfort. but eternity, you just
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- And comfort. but eternity, you just don't want to miss it.
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- But eternity, you just don't want to miss it. john: it's the hope we have.
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- Don't want to miss it. john: it's the hope we have. you know, god actually
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- John: it's the hope we have. you know, god actually commands us to imagine heaven.
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- You know, god actually commands us to imagine heaven. colossians 3:1 says: set
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- Commands us to imagine heaven. colossians 3:1 says: set your minds on things above,
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- Colossians 3:1 says: set your minds on things above, not on things of the earth.
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- Your minds on things above, not on things of the earth. set your hearts where
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- Not on things of the earth. set your hearts where christ is because your life
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- Set your hearts where christ is because your life is hidden there.
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- Christ is because your life is hidden there. james: and it's beyond
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- Is hidden there. james: and it's beyond and greater than anything
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- James: and it's beyond and greater than anything we could even comprehend.
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- And greater than anything we could even comprehend. john: it's going to be greater
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- We could even comprehend. john: it's going to be greater than we really can -
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- John: it's going to be greater than we really can - betty: and i think if we can
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- Than we really can - betty: and i think if we can do that, grasp a little bit
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- Betty: and i think if we can do that, grasp a little bit of heaven that god wants us
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- Do that, grasp a little bit of heaven that god wants us to see, we would live
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- Of heaven that god wants us to see, we would live differently here.
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- To see, we would live differently here. john: it changes how you live.
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- Differently here. john: it changes how you live. and you know what,
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- John: it changes how you live. and you know what, quite honestly?
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- And you know what, quite honestly? that's why i wrote this.
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- Quite honestly? that's why i wrote this. i wrote it for two reasons.
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- That's why i wrote this. i wrote it for two reasons. i wrote it for skeptics
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- They'll see that okay,
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- They'll see that okay, this is across the globe.
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- This is across the globe. this is all cultures,
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- This is all cultures, and yet they are describing
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- And yet they are describing the god of the bible.
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- The god of the bible. and i show very clearly
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- But secondly, for christians,
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- But secondly, for christians, because i find so many
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- But secondly, for christians, because i find so many christians who live
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- Because i find so many christians who live for retirement because
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- Christians who live for retirement because they can imagine it.
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- For retirement because they can imagine it. they can imagine golfing,
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- They can imagine it. they can imagine golfing, and being with family
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- They can imagine golfing, and being with family and friends and enjoying life.
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- And being with family and friends and enjoying life. but they haven't realized
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- And friends and enjoying life. but they haven't realized how great the ultimate
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- But they haven't realized how great the ultimate retirement is going to be
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- How great the ultimate retirement is going to be and we need to live for it
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- Retirement is going to be and we need to live for it and save for it
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- And we need to live for it and save for it and sacrifice for it.
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- And save for it and sacrifice for it. james: and i love sharing life
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- And sacrifice for it. james: and i love sharing life so i wouldn't ever want
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- James: and i love sharing life so i wouldn't ever want to retire from that.
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- So i wouldn't ever want to retire from that. but i know i have
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- To retire from that. but i know i have eternal life.
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- But i know i have eternal life. do you appreciate
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- Eternal life. do you appreciate john taking the time
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- Do you appreciate john taking the time to research and to investigate
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- John taking the time to research and to investigate and talk to all these people?
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- To research and to investigate and talk to all these people? you can get the book
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- And talk to all these people? you can get the book in the bookstore.
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- You can get the book in the bookstore. john, we have led, literally,
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- In the bookstore. john, we have led, literally, i think, by showing people
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- John, we have led, literally, i think, by showing people where they can be the miracle
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- I think, by showing people where they can be the miracle people longed for
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- Where they can be the miracle people longed for and give them not only
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- People longed for and give them not only water for life,
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- And give them not only water for life, but the water of life,
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- Water for life, but the water of life, and there's tremendous joy.
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- But the water of life, and there's tremendous joy. i want you to look in
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- And there's tremendous joy. i want you to look in because every one of you
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- I want you to look in because every one of you that communicate with us,
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- Because every one of you that communicate with us, whether we see you in person
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- That communicate with us, whether we see you in person or you communicate
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- Whether we see you in person or you communicate through email or in a note,
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- Or you communicate through email or in a note, you say, james and betty,
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- Through email or in a note, you say, james and betty, thank you for letting us
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- You say, james and betty, thank you for letting us be the miracle
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- Thank you for letting us be the miracle someone longs for.
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- You're going to want to be
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- A miracle right here,
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- Right now we are facing
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- One of the greatest crises
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- According to the missionaries,
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- Where we emergency have to
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- Drill immediately.
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- So what we're asking for
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- Is a miracle, and the miracle
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- Is in your heart
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- And in your hands.
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- I believe our viewers
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- Are going to help us drill
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- Those water wells.
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- Betty: i believe you will too
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- Because you believe
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- In miracles.
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- We can be a miracle
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- To this mother, and to
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- Many other mothers like her
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- As she watches children die
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- And it breaks her heart.
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- And she knows that if she
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- Gives them the water it's
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- Going to likely kill them,
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- But they have to have
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- The water to survive
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- Even for a day.
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- So please join with us
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- And let's get the wells
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- To them quickly so that
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- They can have the opportunity
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- To see their children grow up,
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- Just as we enjoy
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- Our children growing up.
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- James: well, you know,
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- With the great drilling rigs,
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- We can drill those wells
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- In most areas in a matter
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- Of days.
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- And then we can case them
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- And give them a manual pump
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- Because in so many areas
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- They have inconsistent
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- Power sources at best.
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- In some of the areas,
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- In these outlying areas
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- In the third world countries,
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- They don't have power
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- To their particular village
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- Or area.
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- So we are giving them
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- The greatest gift they will
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- Receive apart from
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- The water of life, jesus.
- 00:19:30.392 --> 00:19:31.893
- And isn't it wonderful
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- To know that it's because
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- Of the love of god
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- In our heart that
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- We're giving them the water
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- That they so desperately need?
- 00:19:37.799 --> 00:19:39.568
- And once they've seen
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- The love of the god we talk
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- About expressed through us,
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- And meeting one of the
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- Greatest needs in their lives
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- It's so much easier for them
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- To understand god's love.
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- Would you please,
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- Please right now, we're asking
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- You to make the greatest gift
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- Possible to give life.
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- Remember this, $48 will
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- Give ten people water
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- The rest of their life.
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- $144 - 30 people
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- The rest of their life.
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- There is a level at which
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- You can participate.
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- Right now, the website
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- You see, or dial the number
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- And make the gift
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- God puts on your heart.
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- Thank you for doing it.
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- Every day, thousands of lives are lost
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- To waterborne disease,
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- And nearly half of those are children
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- Under the age of five.
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- Through mission: water for life
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- You can give mothers hope and children a future
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- As we provide clean, life-giving water
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- For thousands of children and their families
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- Before it's too late.
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- With your gift today, you can help drill
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- And establish 350 water wells this year.
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- Your gift of $24
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- Will help provide clean water for five children.
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- A gift of $48 will help provide for ten.
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- And $144 will help provide
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- Life-giving water for 30 people
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- For a lifetime.
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- With a gift of any amount,
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- We'll send you, prayers for my physical health,
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- Please call, write, or make your gift online today!
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- James: i hope i can
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- James: i hope i can adequately express how much
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- James: i hope i can adequately express how much your love means to these
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- Adequately express how much your love means to these -- you're saving their lives
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- Your love means to these -- you're saving their lives and their families.
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- -- you're saving their lives and their families. thank you so much,
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- And their families. thank you so much, viewers of life today ,
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- Thank you so much, viewers of life today , sharing life today .
- 00:21:59.641 --> 00:22:01.443
- Viewers of life today , sharing life today . imagine heaven .
- 00:22:01.543 --> 00:22:04.146
- Sharing life today . imagine heaven . when you have somebody there
- 00:22:04.212 --> 00:22:06.314
- Imagine heaven . when you have somebody there and now a lot of people
- 00:22:06.381 --> 00:22:07.549
- When you have somebody there and now a lot of people for us, it becomes
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- And now a lot of people for us, it becomes very special.
- 00:22:09.017 --> 00:22:10.185
- For us, it becomes very special. we're not going to miss it.
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- Very special. we're not going to miss it. i think when you share this,
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- We're not going to miss it. i think when you share this, and see it, you're going
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- I think when you share this, and see it, you're going to help a lot of other
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- And see it, you're going to help a lot of other people not miss it.
- 00:22:15.323 --> 00:22:16.525
- To help a lot of other people not miss it. you help us give a cup
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- People not miss it. you help us give a cup of water, the book is in
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- You help us give a cup of water, the book is in the bookstore, but we'll
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- Of water, the book is in the bookstore, but we'll be glad to send it to you
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- The bookstore, but we'll be glad to send it to you if you would like to have it
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- Be glad to send it to you if you would like to have it because we're going
- 00:22:22.264 --> 00:22:23.365
- If you would like to have it because we're going to experience heaven,
- 00:22:23.432 --> 00:22:24.533
- Because we're going to experience heaven, and express it right here.
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- To experience heaven, and express it right here. would you thank john
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- And express it right here. would you thank john for sharing this with us?
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- Would you thank john for sharing this with us? john, i thank you
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- For sharing this with us? john, i thank you for the effort, buddy.
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- John, i thank you for the effort, buddy. thank you so much for
- 00:22:30.505 --> 00:22:31.606
- For the effort, buddy. thank you so much for watching the program.
- 00:22:31.673 --> 00:22:34.276
- Thank you so much for watching the program. thank you for being an answer
- 00:22:34.342 --> 00:22:36.111
- Watching the program. thank you for being an answer to somebody's prayer!
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- Susie: hi, i'm susie larson
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- Susie: hi, i'm susie larson and i want to bring you
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- Susie: hi, i'm susie larson and i want to bring you a word of encouragement
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- And i want to bring you a word of encouragement from the word of god.
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- A word of encouragement from the word of god. you have no doubt
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- From the word of god. you have no doubt heard the passage
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- You have no doubt heard the passage from psalm 46:10,
- 00:22:55.997 --> 00:22:57.032
- Heard the passage from psalm 46:10, "be still and know
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- That i am god.
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- That i am god. i will be exalted
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- That i am god. i will be exalted among the nations.
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- I will be exalted among the nations. i will be exalted
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- Among the nations. i will be exalted on the earth."
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- I will be exalted on the earth." and so often
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- On the earth." and so often we hear that passage
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- And so often we hear that passage in a beautiful
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- We hear that passage in a beautiful kind of serene song,
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- In a beautiful kind of serene song, or you picture that passage
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- Kind of serene song, or you picture that passage as you're floating
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- Or you picture that passage as you're floating down a river or you see it
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- As you're floating down a river or you see it with great works of art
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- Down a river or you see it with great works of art that kind of put
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- With great works of art that kind of put your heart at peace,
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- That kind of put your heart at peace, and i really do love that.
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- Your heart at peace, and i really do love that. but if you go look
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- And i really do love that. but if you go look at the chapter in context,
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- But if you go look at the chapter in context, it actually is showing
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- At the chapter in context, it actually is showing that the nations rage;
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- It actually is showing that the nations rage; that there is war,
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- That the nations rage; that there is war, there is chaos.
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- That there is war, there is chaos. and as the word
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- There is chaos. and as the word is establishing the times
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- And as the word is establishing the times that we're in,
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- Is establishing the times that we're in, then the lord's voice thunders
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- That we're in, then the lord's voice thunders over the storm,
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- Then the lord's voice thunders over the storm, over the chaos,
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- Over the storm, over the chaos, over all of the things that
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- Over the chaos, over all of the things that cause an unsettledness in us,
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- Over all of the things that cause an unsettledness in us, and then you hear his voice
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- Cause an unsettledness in us, and then you hear his voice saying, "be still.
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- And then you hear his voice saying, "be still. yes, this is all going on,
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- Saying, "be still. yes, this is all going on, but hear me now, be still
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- Yes, this is all going on, but hear me now, be still and know that i am god.
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- But hear me now, be still and know that i am god. i will be the one
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- And know that i am god. i will be the one that will have the last say.
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- I will be the one that will have the last say. i will be the one exalted."
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- That will have the last say. i will be the one exalted." well, be still,
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- I will be the one exalted." well, be still, another translation is
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- Well, be still, another translation is "cease striving."
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- Another translation is "cease striving." it means several things.
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- "cease striving." it means several things. it means to let go,
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- It means several things. it means to let go, sink down, relax,
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- It means to let go, sink down, relax, and in some cases, be quiet.
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- Sink down, relax, and in some cases, be quiet. now, i want you to think
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- And in some cases, be quiet. now, i want you to think about this for a moment
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- Now, i want you to think about this for a moment because we all tend
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- About this for a moment because we all tend to have areas where faith
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- Because we all tend to have areas where faith comes a little easier for us
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- To have areas where faith comes a little easier for us in this area,
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- Comes a little easier for us in this area, but not so much in this area.
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- In this area, but not so much in this area. so maybe, you've got faith
- 00:24:03.798 --> 00:24:05.467
- But not so much in this area. so maybe, you've got faith around finances,
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- So maybe, you've got faith around finances, you've become a generous giver
- 00:24:06.735 --> 00:24:07.736
- Around finances, you've become a generous giver and you've just seen
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- You've become a generous giver and you've just seen the faithfulness of god
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- And you've just seen the faithfulness of god so it's almost a non-issue.
- 00:24:10.005 --> 00:24:11.006
- The faithfulness of god so it's almost a non-issue. you just know
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- So it's almost a non-issue. you just know your help comes from the lord.
- 00:24:12.173 --> 00:24:13.141
- You just know your help comes from the lord. but then you see
- 00:24:13.208 --> 00:24:14.309
- Your help comes from the lord. but then you see your kids making choices
- 00:24:14.376 --> 00:24:15.443
- But then you see your kids making choices and that stirs up stress.
- 00:24:15.510 --> 00:24:16.444
- Your kids making choices and that stirs up stress. well, whatever your area
- 00:24:16.511 --> 00:24:17.512
- And that stirs up stress. well, whatever your area of stress is,
- 00:24:17.579 --> 00:24:18.647
- Well, whatever your area of stress is, that's where we get
- 00:24:18.713 --> 00:24:19.748
- Of stress is, that's where we get into striving.
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- That's where we get into striving. that's when we try
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- Into striving. that's when we try to preempt outcomes,
- 00:24:22.083 --> 00:24:23.051
- That's when we try to preempt outcomes, we try to control situations.
- 00:24:23.118 --> 00:24:24.286
- To preempt outcomes, we try to control situations. and if that is where
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- We try to control situations. and if that is where the storm starts to rage,
- 00:24:25.554 --> 00:24:26.621
- And if that is where the storm starts to rage, because the more
- 00:24:26.688 --> 00:24:27.656
- The storm starts to rage, because the more we insert ourselves
- 00:24:27.722 --> 00:24:28.723
- Because the more we insert ourselves into the story
- 00:24:28.790 --> 00:24:29.758
- We insert ourselves into the story where god wants
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- Into the story where god wants to have his hand,
- 00:24:30.926 --> 00:24:31.893
- Where god wants to have his hand, that's when you start
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- To have his hand, that's when you start to see things shake.
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- That's when you start to see things shake. and in those places,
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- To see things shake. and in those places, he's saying, "let go!"
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- And in those places, he's saying, "let go!" if you're hyper-responsible,
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- He's saying, "let go!" if you're hyper-responsible, like me,
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- If you're hyper-responsible, like me, it feels irresponsible
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- Like me, it feels irresponsible to let go.
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- It feels irresponsible to let go. but the thing is,
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- Do i really believe
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- Do i really believe god is in control?
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- God is in control? do i believe
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- Do i believe that he's the keeper
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- That he's the keeper of his word?
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- Of his word? is this irresponsibility
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- Is this irresponsibility for me to let go,
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- For me to let go, or is this faith?
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- I'm being responsible
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- I'm being responsible with my story by putting it
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- I'm being responsible with my story by putting it in more capable hands.
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- With my story by putting it in more capable hands. let go.
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- In more capable hands. let go. now sink down
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- Let go. now sink down means to sink down
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- Now sink down means to sink down into the father's love.
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- Means to sink down into the father's love. ephesians talks about
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- Into the father's love. ephesians talks about to know of this love
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- Ephesians talks about to know of this love is to be filled
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- To know of this love is to be filled with the father's love
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- Is to be filled with the father's love and to be filled
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- With the father's love and to be filled with the fullness of god.
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- And to be filled with the fullness of god. the thing is,
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- With the fullness of god. the thing is, when we get into striving,
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- The thing is, when we get into striving, we've lost sight
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- When we get into striving, we've lost sight of the father's love.
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- We've lost sight of the father's love. so to let go,
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- Of the father's love. so to let go, send your roots down deep.
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- So to let go, send your roots down deep. because in those areas
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- Send your roots down deep. because in those areas of striving,
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- Because in those areas of striving, you've stopped trusting
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- Of striving, you've stopped trusting that god is who he says he is.
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- You've stopped trusting that god is who he says he is. so get to know him
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- That god is who he says he is. so get to know him on a deeper level.
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- So get to know him on a deeper level. let go, sink down, relax!
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- On a deeper level. let go, sink down, relax! you know, do something good
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- Let go, sink down, relax! you know, do something good for your soul.
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- You know, do something good for your soul. go out for a bike ride.
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- For your soul. go out for a bike ride. do something
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- Go out for a bike ride. do something that is good for your soul
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- Do something that is good for your soul because you spend
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- That is good for your soul because you spend a lot of energy worrying.
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- Because you spend a lot of energy worrying. and in some cases, be quiet.
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- A lot of energy worrying. and in some cases, be quiet. if your own words
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- And in some cases, be quiet. if your own words are bearing witness
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- If your own words are bearing witness against the promises of god,
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- Are bearing witness against the promises of god, if the very things
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- Against the promises of god, if the very things that you're saying,
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- If the very things that you're saying, in your worry
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- That you're saying, in your worry about your situation,
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- In your worry about your situation, is in direct conflict
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- About your situation, is in direct conflict with the word of god,
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- Is in direct conflict with the word of god, better not to say anything.
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- With the word of god, better not to say anything. there is
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- Better not to say anything. there is a physiological response
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- There is a physiological response to the things we declare
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- A physiological response to the things we declare over our lives.
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- To the things we declare over our lives. so be quiet, cease striving,
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- Over our lives. so be quiet, cease striving, let go, sink down,
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- So be quiet, cease striving, let go, sink down, relax, be quiet,
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- Let go, sink down, relax, be quiet, and the rest of the verse is
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- Relax, be quiet, and the rest of the verse is know that he is god.
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- And the rest of the verse is know that he is god. that word know translates
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- Know that he is god. that word know translates "intimate encounter
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- That word know translates "intimate encounter and experience."
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- "intimate encounter and experience." so god is saying,
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- And experience." so god is saying, "in those places of stress,
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- So god is saying, "in those places of stress, encounter me.
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- "in those places of stress, encounter me. know me on a deeper level."
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- Encounter me. know me on a deeper level." whatever your area
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- Know me on a deeper level." whatever your area of stress is,
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- Whatever your area of stress is, he's the provider.
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- Of stress is, he's the provider. he's your banner.
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- He's the provider. he's your banner. he's your victory.
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- He's your banner. he's your victory. he's your presence.
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- He's your victory. he's your presence. he's your shepherd.
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- He's your presence. he's your shepherd. jehovah, he is our god.
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- He's your shepherd. jehovah, he is our god. he is the king of kings.
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- Jehovah, he is our god. he is the king of kings. whatever you know of god,
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- He is the king of kings. whatever you know of god, it is like
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- Whatever you know of god, it is like you hold a dixie cup,
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- It is like you hold a dixie cup, and the ocean remains.
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- You hold a dixie cup, and the ocean remains. there is so much more
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- And the ocean remains. there is so much more to know of him.
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- There is so much more to know of him. apply this passage
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- To know of him. apply this passage into the chaos of your storm,
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- Apply this passage into the chaos of your storm, and you will encounter the god
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- Into the chaos of your storm, and you will encounter the god who can still the storm
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- And you will encounter the god who can still the storm in the moment.
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- Who can still the storm in the moment. you can trust him.
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