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Life Today with James Robison | Kathie Lee Gifford - Living Hope | May 7, 2026
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- Of life outreach international and the friends
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- Kathie lee gifford: every one of us needs a savior about
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- Something in our life.
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- So have hope in that, that your savior is here for you right
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- Now, for your addictions, for your brokenness, for your
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- Loneliness, for your desperation, everything that
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- You're facing.
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- He's here right now, but he's also coming again.
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- Announcer: kathie lee gifford shows how the god that
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- Transformed paul can transform you.
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- Randy robison: welcome to "life today."
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- I'm randy robison. blynda lane is with me.
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- Great to have you with me, blynda.
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- Blynda lane: thank you. so happy to be here.
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- Randy: i'm so excited about today's guest, kathie lee--yes,
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- Kathie lee gifford is back with us, and you know, we always get
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- Great feedback when she's on.
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- But she's got a new book called "nero & paul," and as someone
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- Who appreciates context and history, scriptural, that kind
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- Of thing, i like--some people refer to it as almost like
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- Historical fiction, which it's not, no, but there's a
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- Creativity to it.
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- Blynda: that's actually, for me, that's why i liked the book,
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- Because i am not necessarily the biggest history buff, or if i
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- Just hear history, like maybe in high school, the history teacher
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- Talking about it, i didn't find it that interesting.
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- But when it's presented like this, because what they do is
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- They give you historical accuracy with, obviously, people
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- Who really lived, but in a way where there is some creativity
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- In the writing that draws you in.
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- Randy: yeah, it draws you in.
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- And i think that's key, and for me, it helps me understand the
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- Context of the founders of our faith, and it applies today.
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- So let's talk to the author, kathie lee gifford, welcome back
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- To "life today."
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- Kathie lee: thank you, thank you, randy.
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- And hi, blynda. nice to see you guys again.
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- Thanks for having me on, thank you.
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- Actually, i just--i take a little issue with the fact that
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- It's fiction, it's not.
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- These are true stories. these are true stories.
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- And anywhere where we're not sure of exactly what happened,
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- We notate it.
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- That's why i wrote it with a gentleman, bryan--
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- Dr. bryan litfin, because he's the one with the phd after his
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- Name, not me.
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- And if i was to write these kinds of books, i don't have
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- Time to do five years of research or ten years of
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- Research on each book.
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- He's already done it. he's already done it.
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- And then he comes into the picture with my son, who's
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- Producing all these things with me.
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- And it was cody's idea to say, "mom, let's take your obsession
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- With these epic stories in the bible," because i truly am.
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- I'm a history buff about everything, all kinds of
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- History, but especially biblical history, because the bible, when
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- We read it the way it's written, is really black and white.
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- It's just too much detail to put--it would be a full
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- Encyclopedia if we had every detail of everything.
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- But when you study the way i study, which is rabbinically,
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- Meaning what does the greek and the hebrew tell you about every
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- Single word in the scripture, then it comes to life.
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- It goes from being a black and white bible that you've been
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- Reading forever into technicolor and dolby sound, and you get--my
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- Faith started finally coming back when i started studying
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- This way, because you also get cultural relativity.
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- You get geopolitical content.
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- And then it's thrilling, and it's like a--it becomes a
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- Thriller, because it's thrilling.
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- Blynda: that's right.
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- And you almost find that ways that you've thought about things
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- Haven't even maybe been historically accurate, because
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- We haven't really broken it down into those measures.
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- And you kind of correct some of that.
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- Kathie lee: well, i don't try to because i'm "right," you know?
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- I try to because i've done my homework.
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- And i've done the studying.
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- The word of god is to be read, yes, but it's also to be
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- Ingested into us, you know?
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- And we don't do it.
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- Randy: i have a question though.
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- The book, "nero & paul."
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- I get it, there's a lot of great books about paul.
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- Obviously paul is a cornerstone of the christian faith and our
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- Understanding of it.
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- Why nero?
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- Kathie lee: well, because we're in a series of books.
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- This is the second.
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- The first one was called "herod & mary."
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- Second one's called "nero & paul."
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- And it's subtitled "ancient evil, living hope."
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- People ask me all the time, "kathie, do you think there's
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- More evil in the world today?"
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- And i go, "no, it just seems like it."
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- Everybody's got a cell phone.
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- Everybody's got, you know, cable television, and there's just
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- Such an abundance of information.
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- It's almost--you almost can't even deal with it.
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- It's overwhelming.
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- And i said, but you know, you look back at the very beginning,
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- As in, dawn of time, adam and eve in the garden, in the cool
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- Of the night as jehovah god walked with adam and eve, who
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- Was there?
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- The serpent.
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- Evil's been with us ever since creation.
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- And then when i had a little lull in my life, heaven forbid i
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- Get a lull, my son says, "mom, let's take your obsession, not
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- Obsession, but your fascination with these ancient evil
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- Characters that we know so little about, and let's make
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- Them into thrillers."
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- And then what we do is we juxtapose the evil that we
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- Didn't even realize.
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- I mean, each of our books start out with you're going, "are you
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- Freaking kidding me?
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- This was herod?
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- Are you freaking kidding me?
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- This is agrippina, the mother of nero, and he's looking at her
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- Dead body because he just murdered her."
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- These are real stories.
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- The point of it is we wanted to show, and this was fascinating
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- To me, i'd never thought about it this way.
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- We know the lust for power that exists in people that do not
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- Know a personal god.
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- You know, there are many--most of the religions in the world
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- Are polytheistic.
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- They worship the sun, they worship the moon, they worship
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- Aphrodite, they worship sex, they worship all of
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- Those things.
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- But the one thing they all have in common is a lust for power.
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- And that's where it's juxtaposed against a man like saul of
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- Tarsus, we start out with, of course, who didn't realize that
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- He--he thought he had a zeal for righteousness.
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- We've all thought that--well, we've been taught, well, he
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- Thought he was doing the right thing by killing the original
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- Followers of yeshua jesus.
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- He thought that they weren't following mosaic law.
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- They believed in the messiah, and he didn't believe the
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- Messiah had already come.
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- He had heard about yeshua, of course, but he didn't realize
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- That he'd missed him.
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- He was one of the greatest biblical scholars, or
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- Mosaic scholars.
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- There was no bible at the time.
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- He was one of the greatest mosaic scholars of his day.
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- He was on his own zest and zeal for power, to be in
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- The sanhedrin.
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- That was his power world.
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- And to be the next caiaphas, the next high priest, who was the
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- One who actually, you know, architected, was the architect
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- Of jesus's torture and crucifixion.
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- So that's the road he was on.
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- So who's the bad guy?
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- Who's the bad guy?
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- Not until saul of tarsus hears the voice of yeshua jesus on the
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- Road to damascus, and then jesus says, he says, "who is this?"
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- And he says, "saul, saul, why are you--why are you
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- Persecuting me?"
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- And he goes, "who are you?"
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- He says, "i am jesus, yeshua, whom you are persecuting."
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- And then he's blinded, right?
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- He'd been blind already, to the truth that had been in front of
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- Him forever, that all these people were being martyred in
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- The name of their messiah, jesus, yeshua.
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- Remember, you guys, and this is what we don't understand in our
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- Culture, in the west, in western christianity.
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- We don't understand that the story of all the scriptures from
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- Beginning to end is a jewish story.
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- Jesus was jewish, mary was, joseph was,
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- All of the disciples.
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- And we talk about how jesus's apostles were there at the--no,
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- There were no apostles yet.
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- The apostles came once jesus had ascended, and that's when they
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- Went out, because of persecution, as apostles, which
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- Means to be sent forth with a message.
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- And what was their message?
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- The good news of the gospel that jesus came to save, the message
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- Of salvation.
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- And that's when they were first called christians.
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- You know why?
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- Because nero named them that.
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- Nero realized they were losing power to these people that
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- Believed in yeshua.
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- So he said, "we have a problem with these little christians,"
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- And he said it very derisively, why?
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- Because he did have a power problem with them.
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- But that's the first time the word "christians" was used.
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- Blynda: interesting.
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- So when you're juxtaposing this evil person with this really
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- Righteous, godly person, and you do such a great job in the book
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- Of describing nero as how evil he really was, like you said, he
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- Killed his mother.
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- But when we're thinking about today--
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- Kathie lee: and many, many others, blynda.
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- Blynda: and many others, yes.
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- But when we're thinking about today and the--what it reminds
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- Me when i read something so historical like this, is the
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- Human condition really hasn't changed over time.
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- Kathie lee: nothing under the sun, as ecclesiastes says.
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- I think it's ecclesiastes.
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- Blynda: so without jesus coming in and changing who we are, we
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- Have every possibility of being like a nero, meaning just living
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- For ourselves.
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- How would this book encourage viewers today to really
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- Understand that there is a spiritual battle that we face
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- Every day, and we get to choose which path to take?
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- Kathie lee: well, scripture is so clear about that.
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- It says that, you know, out of our mouths, we can speak garbage
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- Or we can speak life, and every time, the scripture says,
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- "choose life, that you may live long in the land."
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- Now, how do you want your story to end?
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- We all start out as babies.
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- Nero started out as a baby, and so did saul, and you and i did,
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- All of us, all of creation does.
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- And my belief is that every baby comes directly from the heavens.
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- A baby is perfect.
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- A baby's never sinned.
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- And then the world gets ahold of us.
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- Nero didn't start out evil.
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- He became evil.
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- But the point of it is, saul, if he hadn't heard the voice, the
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- Genuine audible voice of jesus, yeshua, the messiah, he would
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- Have kept going to damascus.
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- He would have found peter there.
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- He would have found mary there.
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- He would have kept his horrendous zeal for what he
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- Thought was righteousness.
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- So let's ask ourselves in real time, in our lives today, what
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- Are we wrong about?
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- What are we zealous about that really has nothing to do
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- With jesus?
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- Nothing to do with this.
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- And we all have stuff.
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- We all have stuff that's more important to us than pleasing
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- Our lord.
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- So thank god jesus showed up in that form.
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- If only he would do it for absolutely everybody, there'd be
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- Far more many believers in the world today, because nothing
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- Like jesus getting your attention, you know, that way.
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- There's showing up visually, which he's doing quite a bit now
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- In the muslim world, i hear.
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- And i believe it.
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- I have friends who--yes, he's in dreams now.
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- Yes, nothing's changed.
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- He's still saying, "why are you persecuting me?
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- I'm the one that died for you.
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- Why are you persecuting me?
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- I'm the one that loves you so much that i died for you."
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- And thank goodness he doesn't have to do it again, but he
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- Would if he had to.
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- I know that.
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- So, i just think it's important to find new ways to tell the
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- Old stories.
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- Just--but really, really clever and artistic and excellent ways.
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- And because of--that's important to me in my career all my life,
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- That was our intention, is to give people hope in today's
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- World who think that we're losing the battle, somehow
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- Losing the battle.
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- We're not losing the battle.
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- The battle's won.
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- Randy: no, i think that's really important for people to hear,
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- Because yeah, we do see things and we think, man, the world's,
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- You know, it's all going to hell in a hand basket kind of thing.
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- But when you look at the evil of nero, which you do lay out even
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- More graphically than you've discussed here because it
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- Was--it's hard to even comprehend how awful nero was,
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- And rome, how corrupt it was.
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- And then you see paul, and his obedience to go into these
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- Difficult situations and boldly proclaim the gospel of
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- Jesus christ.
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- And it took a while, but it--
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- Kathie lee: and persevere.
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- That's right, it took--yes, it took a long time.
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- Randy: what do you get from that as you look at the world and you
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- Keep proclaiming the gospel of jesus christ in your books and
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- In your ministry and the things that you do?
- 00:13:15.618 --> 00:13:17.653
- I mean, there's got to be some encouragement there that even if
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- We may not see the full completion of the seeds that
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- We're sowing and the gospel, it will overcome the darkness.
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- Kathie lee: it totally will overcome the darkness.
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- You light one candle, a black room becomes lit up, you know?
- 00:13:30.366 --> 00:13:35.371
- And i think the reason i've always proclaimed it so boldly,
- 00:13:35.371 --> 00:13:39.942
- That's what a lot of people say, "how could you be so bold?
- 00:13:39.942 --> 00:13:42.077
- You're the only one on television for years that talked
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- About jesus, no matter where you were."
- 00:13:44.580 --> 00:13:47.216
- When i was 12 years old, i did hear the voice of jesus.
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- It wasn't audible in the same way, but i had just watched a
- 00:13:50.452 --> 00:13:54.556
- Billy graham movie called "the restless ones," and at the end
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- Of it, there was an altar call.
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- And i remember hearing jesus say to me, very clearly into my
- 00:14:00.029 --> 00:14:05.668
- Soul, "kathie, i love you, and if you'll trust me, i'll make
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- Something beautiful out of your life."
- 00:14:10.239 --> 00:14:12.741
- And i ran down that--to ask yeshua jesus into my life.
- 00:14:12.741 --> 00:14:16.979
- I call him that now because studying the way i've been
- 00:14:16.979 --> 00:14:19.848
- Doing, with the hebrew and the greek, i'm so much more aware of
- 00:14:19.848 --> 00:14:23.786
- My jewish heritage, my jewish blood.
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- My father was a russian jew, but i didn't know very much about
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- My history.
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- I didn't know much about my father's heritage.
- 00:14:32.027 --> 00:14:35.464
- I first started going to israel when i was 17, and the minute my
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- Feet landed in the holy land, i was forever changed.
- 00:14:38.934 --> 00:14:44.473
- And the lord gave me a lyric, it says, "oh, the ancient blood
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- That flows through me, from the dawn of creation through
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- Eternity," and that changed me.
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- And because i had heard the voice of yeshua as a young girl,
- 00:14:53.983 --> 00:14:57.987
- That's the voice that kept me on my path and gave me the ability
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- To become bolder and bolder and bolder.
- 00:15:01.490 --> 00:15:04.026
- Never missed an opportunity, that i can ever remember, to not
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- Share the hope that is within me, because how could i, after
- 00:15:08.197 --> 00:15:12.434
- I've heard the voice of jesus, you know?
- 00:15:12.434 --> 00:15:16.805
- I can't, and i won't.
- 00:15:16.805 --> 00:15:18.173
- And everybody, wherever i worked, whether it was, you
- 00:15:18.173 --> 00:15:22.111
- Know, on top of a mountaintop directing a movie or on a
- 00:15:22.111 --> 00:15:25.414
- Broadway stage with sondheim, or on a daytime, whatever, daytime
- 00:15:25.414 --> 00:15:31.754
- Talk show for abc, nbc, cbs, cnn, i didn't care where i was,
- 00:15:31.754 --> 00:15:36.625
- Because i never separated the secular from the spiritual in
- 00:15:36.625 --> 00:15:39.428
- My life.
- 00:15:39.428 --> 00:15:41.196
- That's the biggest mistake we make as believers.
- 00:15:41.196 --> 00:15:44.366
- We are one child of god.
- 00:15:44.366 --> 00:15:46.402
- We're not a different person when we're doing plumbing or
- 00:15:46.402 --> 00:15:49.171
- When we're on our face in prayer before jesus and our father.
- 00:15:49.171 --> 00:15:54.710
- You know, no.
- 00:15:54.710 --> 00:15:57.012
- It does not please god.
- 00:15:57.012 --> 00:15:58.814
- We're supposed to take him--"in him we live and move and have
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- Our being," it says in acts, and that was paul who said that.
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- Blynda: in the conclusion at the very end of the book, you kind
- 00:16:05.554 --> 00:16:08.057
- Of sum up that the message of this book is that for the
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- Followers of jesus, that they know that the presence of god is
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- In them and will never leave them.
- 00:16:14.430 --> 00:16:17.166
- And so as we're concluding, do you have a message for the
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- Viewers today to encourage them about continuing in their walk
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- With christ, pursuing christ?
- 00:16:23.972 --> 00:16:26.208
- I'll give you the last word.
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- Kathie lee: well, you're saying christ, and you know why?
- 00:16:28.343 --> 00:16:30.446
- Because now you know where the word christian came from.
- 00:16:30.446 --> 00:16:33.115
- Christ in greek means messiah.
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- It's christós.
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- So that's why people are--in christ jesus, paul would
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- Speak often.
- 00:16:43.792 --> 00:16:45.160
- "in christ jesus."
- 00:16:45.160 --> 00:16:46.495
- He's saying, "in messiah jesus."
- 00:16:46.495 --> 00:16:50.632
- Don't forget that.
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- You'll never say it again the same way.
- 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:54.870
- Everybody needs a savior, whether people are watching me
- 00:16:54.870 --> 00:16:58.941
- Right now, watching the two of you, or listening to us.
- 00:16:58.941 --> 00:17:02.778
- Every one of us needs a savior about something in our life.
- 00:17:02.778 --> 00:17:07.216
- We need a messiah.
- 00:17:07.216 --> 00:17:09.184
- And don't be a fool like saul of tarsus was.
- 00:17:09.184 --> 00:17:12.554
- Many of us feel like we--and miss him.
- 00:17:12.554 --> 00:17:16.058
- He's already been here. he's already been here.
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- He's already shown us the way, and he's coming again.
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- And then that's only up to the father.
- 00:17:23.899 --> 00:17:25.701
- Only the father knows when that's gonna be.
- 00:17:25.701 --> 00:17:28.570
- So have hope in that, that your savior is here for you right
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- Now, for your addictions, for your brokenness, for your
- 00:17:33.842 --> 00:17:37.646
- Loneliness, for your desperation, for everything that
- 00:17:37.646 --> 00:17:42.518
- You're facing.
- 00:17:42.518 --> 00:17:43.886
- He's here right now, but he's also coming again, to bring
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- Salvation to all of humankind, redemption for all of humankind.
- 00:17:49.324 --> 00:17:54.796
- And if we don't understand that, we don't understand our jesus.
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- Randy: so encouraging.
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- Thank you very much for that.
- 00:17:59.401 --> 00:18:00.736
- And by the way, if you're watching right now and you're
- 00:18:00.736 --> 00:18:02.971
- Like, "you know, i don't know what she's talking about.
- 00:18:02.971 --> 00:18:05.474
- I haven't had that encounter that kathie lee had," there are
- 00:18:05.474 --> 00:18:08.177
- People right now on the phone, and that phone number there,
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- That would love to pray with you, and just be there for you
- 00:18:11.113 --> 00:18:15.150
- To encourage you.
- 00:18:15.150 --> 00:18:16.618
- And if you just need some other encouragement, maybe you are a
- 00:18:16.618 --> 00:18:19.488
- Believer and you're like, "you know, i want to have the passion
- 00:18:19.488 --> 00:18:22.758
- That kathie lee has.
- 00:18:22.758 --> 00:18:24.126
- I want to have the steadfastness that paul had," again, there's
- 00:18:24.126 --> 00:18:29.765
- Someone that will will pray with you.
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- So we wanna be here for you.
- 00:18:31.366 --> 00:18:32.968
- And by the way, if you'd like to get the book "nero & paul,"
- 00:18:32.968 --> 00:18:36.138
- Kathie lee gifford's latest book, it's available lots of
- 00:18:36.138 --> 00:18:38.807
- Places, but we would love to send it to you by asking you to
- 00:18:38.807 --> 00:18:42.244
- Do what we love to do, which is to reach into an area where
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- People are hurting, where people are hungry, literally hungry,
- 00:18:45.847 --> 00:18:49.785
- And give them something in christ jesus's name.
- 00:18:49.785 --> 00:18:54.756
- Watch this.
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- Kathie lee: christós.
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- Randy: yes, christós, that's what we do.
- 00:18:57.526 --> 00:18:58.860
- Everything--every good work we do is a god work, and here's one
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- That we would love to show you, that you can be a part of
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- Right now.
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- Announcer: rural health clinics in africa serve as a lifeline
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- For children suffering from severe malnutrition.
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- These clinics provide emergency nutritional supplies,
- 00:19:12.274 --> 00:19:15.510
- Therapeutic foods, and life-saving treatments that
- 00:19:15.510 --> 00:19:18.981
- Restore a starving child's strength and saves their life.
- 00:19:18.981 --> 00:19:23.118
- But there is a crisis today, leaving many clinic
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- Shelves bare.
- 00:19:26.521 --> 00:19:28.357
- John yeatts: we showed up at one of the clinics today where we
- 00:19:28.357 --> 00:19:31.693
- Were supposed to be doing screening and handing out for
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- Children that are--they're in the crisis mode, they're in
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- Danger but they're not hospitalized yet.
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- But unfortunately there's no aid to give.
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- And so we are desperately needing your help to make sure
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- That the mission feeding can continue on, that we can
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- Continue to support these families, these mothers that
- 00:19:52.948 --> 00:19:55.517
- Work so diligently.
- 00:19:55.517 --> 00:19:56.885
- And can you imagine this mama having to come 45 miles to a
- 00:19:56.885 --> 00:20:03.358
- Clinic hoping to get aid, and there'd be none available?
- 00:20:03.358 --> 00:20:09.298
- How defeating, how hopeless is that feeling for her, knowing
- 00:20:09.298 --> 00:20:13.969
- That her baby is days away from dying?
- 00:20:13.969 --> 00:20:17.306
- We're the ones that have a responsibility to step into the
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- Gap, and to bring hope and help to these mothers and
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- These children.
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- With your help, we can provide mission feeding in villages
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- Before a mother would need to bring their child to a
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- Malnutrition clinic.
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- But for those children in need of emergency care, it is
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- Critical that we provide clinics with these
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- Nutritional supplements.
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- It could mean the difference between life and death.
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- The time to act is now.
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- [music]
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- Randy: we need to hear from you.
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- Please go online, go to the phone,
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- Make the best gift you can.
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- Announcer: right now across the continent of africa, children
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- Are suffering, facing severe malnutrition and even death.
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- With food reserves critically depleted and many areas
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- Experiencing devastating famine, we urgently need to replenish
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- Supplies to keep feeding the 350,000 children who are
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- Counting on us every single day.
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- Through life's mission feeding outreach, your gift of love can
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- So, please call, write, or make your gift online today.
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- Randy: we do need to hear from you now.
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- I hope you'll go online and go to the phone, make the best gift
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- You can.
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- The situation obviously is desperate, but there is a way,
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- And you're a big part of that.
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- I hope you've enjoyed kathie lee gifford.
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- I know we have, blynda.
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- Blynda: how could you not?
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- I mean, someone with so much passion and knowledge.
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- She's done all the work.
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- Randy: and you request that book, we'd love to send it
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- To you.
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- Kathie lee, thank you so much for being with us today.
- 00:22:49.624 --> 00:22:51.092
- Kathie lee: oh, bless you both and the great work you've always
- 00:22:51.092 --> 00:22:53.195
- Done for years and years and years.
- 00:22:53.195 --> 00:22:55.163
- That's why you're still doing it, because the favor of the
- 00:22:55.163 --> 00:22:58.033
- Lord is on you, and because you put him first.
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- He loves that.
- 00:23:01.336 --> 00:23:02.671
- He loves--well, shalom, shalom to you and all of your viewers.
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- Thank you, everybody.
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- Randy: you too. keep up the good work.
- 00:23:07.242 --> 00:23:08.577
- We appreciate you so much.
- 00:23:08.577 --> 00:23:09.911
- Kathie lee: thank you.
- 00:23:09.911 --> 00:23:11.246
- Randy: come back, there's more.
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- We'd love to see you next time here on "life today."
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- [music]
- 00:23:14.483 --> 00:23:20.956
- Kathie lee gifford: i love the story in the bible in i think
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- It's john 6, verse 68 where jesus talks to his disciples,
- 00:23:22.691 --> 00:23:27.496
- And he says, "hey guys, they're all leaving me.
- 00:23:27.496 --> 00:23:30.398
- Everybody's leaving me. this is getting hard.
- 00:23:30.398 --> 00:23:32.834
- Are you gonna leave me too?"
- 00:23:32.834 --> 00:23:34.769
- And, of course, peter looks at him and says, "lord, where would
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- We go?
- 00:23:37.506 --> 00:23:38.907
- Only you have the words of eternal life."
- 00:23:38.907 --> 00:23:42.043
- And i think that's something that all of us as followers of
- 00:23:42.043 --> 00:23:44.312
- Jesus yeshua can be mindful of today.
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- What about if we're there with jesus right now in the sea of
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- Galilee where they're all walking through the fields or in
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- A synagogue or wherever he walked with them.
- 00:23:54.122 --> 00:23:56.057
- He went everywhere with them.
- 00:23:56.057 --> 00:23:57.692
- What would he say if he said, "what about it, you guys?
- 00:23:57.692 --> 00:24:00.295
- Is this getting too hard for us now?
- 00:24:00.295 --> 00:24:03.231
- Is this too hard for you?
- 00:24:03.231 --> 00:24:04.833
- I told you it wouldn't be easy.
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- I told you in this world you'd have trouble and tribulation,
- 00:24:06.334 --> 00:24:09.371
- But i told you i'd never leave you or forsake you too, but just
- 00:24:09.371 --> 00:24:12.707
- Tell me now if you're gonna leave me."
- 00:24:12.707 --> 00:24:15.076
- And i wonder if our own hearts, even though we're tired and
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- We're weary and we're scared and we're broken in so many ways, i
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- Wonder if at this very moment we could try to use our
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- Imaginations and put ourselves there and see our lord asking
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- Us, "are you gonna leave me too?"
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- And i hope we would have the kind of courage and wisdom that
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- Peter had said to him, "where are we gonna go, lord?
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- Once we've tasted of you, we've tasted and see
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- That you are good.
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- We've watched you and we've seen that you're a miracle worker.
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- We've eaten with you and we've seen how generous and kind and
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- We've fed the multitudes with you.
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- And we've watched you raise people from the dead, jesus.
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- We're not going anywhere.
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- We're in.
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- We are in to the end, because you are the beginning and the
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- End, you are the alpha and the omega, you are the one who
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- Changes not when the rest of the world is falling apart.
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- You are our messiah.
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