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Life Today with James Robison | Matt Chandler: Becoming Like Jesus | Life Today | April 21, 2026
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- Male announcer: the following program is sponsored by friends
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- Of life outreach international and the friends
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- And partners of tbn.
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- Matt chandler: it has left the christian imagination in the
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- West that suffering is normal, and what feels like a loss to us
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- Might actually be a win.
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- I describe sanctification not as up and to the right but think of
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- A coil laid horizontally, where every high and low is actually
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- Still moving you towards something, and that something is
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- To become like jesus.
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- Announcer: next.
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- [music]
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- Randy robison: hey, welcome to "life today."
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- We're excited that you're here.
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- I'm randy robinson, this is blynda lane.
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- Blynda lane: happy to be here.
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- Randy: we are here with a dynamic pastor, author, and kind
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- Of a great guy to talk to.
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- His name is matt chandler, and he has a brand-new book out.
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- It's called "becoming like jesus," yeah, okay, and there's
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- A word on there, blynda, i'm curious, holiness, the everyday,
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- What does it say?
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- The everyday journey to living a life of holiness.
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- What do you think of when i say the word holiness?
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- Because i know there's a lot of different things going in
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- People's minds right now.
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- Blynda: set apartness.
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- Randy: set apart, that's good.
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- I like that one, you're getting the root words here.
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- Blynda: i like that.
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- Randy: well, i wanna find out exactly what that means.
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- Blynda: what does matt say about it though?
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- Randy: matt, welcome to "life today."
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- Matt: oh, man, it's good to be back.
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- It feels like moments ago we were here.
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- Randy: always good to see you.
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- Matt: i love that.
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- Randy: and this is one of those hot words.
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- I think it means different things to different people.
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- What does it mean to you?
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- Matt: well, i think it doesn't matter what it means to
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- Me, right?
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- I think it matters how the scriptures define it, and
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- Holiness is certainly being set apart, and so god calls us to be
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- A holy people, but it's also a word that scares the heck out
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- Of everybody.
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- Blynda: take us through on becoming like jesus.
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- You're focusing a lot on the matthew 5, the beatitudes.
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- Take us through kind of the heart behind the book and what
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- You're--the message you're wanting to give.
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- Matt: well, it's a book that i would argue is probably 23 years
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- In the making.
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- I don't think a young man should write this book.
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- I've pastored the same church for 23 years, i've ministered in
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- The same location to the same people, and i wanted to write an
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- Honest book about sanctification.
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- I just think most people think that sanctification is up and to
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- The right, and then what happens is a significant disorientation
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- When they realize that's not the way this is going to work, and
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- So the way--
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- Blynda: and all the sudden god is now disappointed in some way.
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- Matt: that's right, and if you'll pay attention to a lot
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- Of, not all of, but a lot of the deconstructionists, their
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- Stories sound like that.
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- They grew up in church, and they were following jesus, and then
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- Their mom got sick, or then they lost their job, or then their
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- Friend was, and it's like it has left the christian imagination
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- In the west that suffering is normal and what feels like a
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- Loss to us might actually be a win.
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- I describe sanctification not as up and to the right, but think
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- Of a coil laid horizontally, where every high and low is
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- Actually still moving you towards something, and that
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- Something is to become like jesus.
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- So, if you think of a horizontal coil moving forward, okay, then
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- What is he doing?
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- What is he up to?
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- Well, i embed the book in the beatitudes of matthew 5, and i'm
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- Making the argument jesus didn't come to find these people, he
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- Came to make them, and so he's not looking for, like, to
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- Develop these eight character attributes in you, but rather
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- Through these eight character formation things, over and over
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- Again, he forms you more and more and more into the image
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- Of jesus.
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- And so that's kind of the framework.
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- Randy: so, how--contrast those two in a way that i can
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- Grasp, right?
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- Because i've always felt like, you know, if i wanted to be like
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- Jesus, i just need to act more this way, right?
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- That's kind of the--
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- Matt: so, you can do that, but you're not gonna be like jesus,
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- Because jesus, right?
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- Is full of the holy spirit, connected to the father, and so
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- If you're watching jesus live a life of discipline, the one that
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- Most frequently is in the scriptures is withdrawing to be
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- With the lord, right?
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- Now, you're not seeing the other ones come to the forefront, but
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- If i ask you to study jesus's life, and i ask you to--which
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- Part of this is requiring an alarm clock, which part of this
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- Is requiring, you're gonna say he's up early, he's up all night
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- Doing what?
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- Connecting to the presence of god.
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- So, transformation happens in the presence of god so that the
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- Banner over our life should be i want to orient my life around
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- The presence of jesus.
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- How do i keep moving towards him?
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- How do i shrink any distance between me and the presence
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- Of jesus?
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- So if we think through the beatitudes, there's some--like,
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- Some theologians would say they actually work in succession,
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- That blessed are the poor in spirit, there's your salvation.
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- Nobody comes into the kingdom without being poor in spirit,
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- They're not wrong, and then it kind of moves through a
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- Successive kind of flow.
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- I think you can make that argument once.
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- Like, the first time you go through it is probably a
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- Succession of those things, but i don't think you could say once
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- You've been persecuted for righteousness' sake,
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- You're done.
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- I've been in, you know, following jesus now 33, 34
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- Years, do you know how many times i've had to learn blessed
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- Are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of god?
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- Like, over and over and over again, but every time it's a
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- Different experience.
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- There's something different about it.
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- And so when i'm being taught life circumstances from the hand
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- Of god or my own stupidity, i get invited into the presence of
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- God to avail my heart to him and let the work of formation
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- Take place.
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- The way it's working now for most people is, oh, man, i made
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- This mistake, i was judge instead of the merciful one, let
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- Me repent of that and just move on, but what we wanna be able to
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- Do is just go i want this moment to do its work in me.
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- I want this moment to form me.
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- That's what god's committed to.
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- He who began the good work in you will be faithful to carry it
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- Unto completion.
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- When does that end?
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- At the coming of the lord.
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- But in this space between, this already but not yet, every high,
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- Every low, forming, shaping, and if you don't see it that way, i
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- Think you'll lose heart, and i think you'll create distance
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- From god.
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- Blynda: in this in between you speak about, i feel like--i
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- Think you've even referred to it before, we like things done more
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- Quickly, and we're in a long journey, it's like a marathon,
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- Not a sprint, and you even make the analogy that we we're a
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- Microwave society but a crock pot is our spiritual walk.
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- How do you encourage the believer who in this coil you're
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- Talking about, that's a long journey.
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- You said you've experienced that poor in spirit over and over
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- And over.
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- It's hard, especially the older you get to feel like, man, am i
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- Ever going to arrive?
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- Matt: yeah, here's what i think's required, deep work over
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- Time in community.
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- So if you have that grid, now you know what you signed up for.
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- So deep work, the sheer volume of surface-level triviality that
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- Most christians walk in, like never get down to the heart, all
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- Above the line, strength and might, not heart and soul, like
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- Vulnerability, confession, deep work, and then the
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- Acknowledgement that i am not on some quick journey, i'm on a
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- Long journey home, and jesus knew what he was buying on
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- The cross.
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- Like, jesus knew what he was buying on the cross.
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- The reason it's so public and so graphic is because of me, and
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- Jesus knew what he was buying on the cross, and he's not asking
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- For a mulligan.
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- And so he is as committed to me in that journey as he's ever
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- Been since the foundation of the earth was laid, if you want to
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- Believe the apostle paul in ephesians.
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- And so deep work over time, one degree of glory to the next, but
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- One degree over two decades is a great movement, great movement.
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- And then deep work over time in community.
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- You cannot become like jesus without the effects that come
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- From community that's doing that deep work over time with you.
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- If you have those three things there, and you'll lean into
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- Those three things, because they're gonna be times that the
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- Deep work is a little painful, and it'd be a lot easier just to
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- Kind of just leave buried what's buried and move forward
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- In might.
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- There'll be time that the slowness of what christ is
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- Accomplishing in us feels like there's a better fix somewhere
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- Else, and you'll do spiritual bypass.
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- You know, you'll go off with some secondary theological
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- Thing, and you'll baptize it in the holy spirit, and it's called
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- Spiritual bypass.
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- Or people will bother you, and you'll change churches eight
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- Times, and you'll, you know, you'll be spring loaded
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- With offense.
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- It's called a belonging deficit, which is ironic.
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- The reason people run all the time is they have belonging
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- Deficits, and once you have a belonging deficit, you read
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- Rejection in a room that it's not.
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- Like, i had a young woman share with me that one of the reasons
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- She doesn't like going to the church she goes to, she's not a
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- Member of ours, is because when she's there everybody's judging
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- Her, and i was like, well, tell me more, say more about how that
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- Plays out.
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- And then she told this story, i mean this is--i'm gonna rub
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- My head.
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- She was like, well, i walked in, and i went up, my husband
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- Doesn't go, so he wasn't with me, and everybody's asking me
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- About my marriage, like judging me for my husband not
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- Being there.
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- I'm like, or they know you've been married in a newish
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- Marriage, and they're genuinely curi--but you see what a
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- Belonging deficit does?
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- It makes her read offense where there's none.
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- It's just people trying to connect with her, and she's not
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- Connecting because she has a belonging deficit to begin with.
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- But if you'll commit, and you'll dive in with people for the long
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- Haul, man, the lord uses that in deep ways.
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- He's used it in my own life.
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- I mean, there--i don't even-- i'm not supposed to say this,
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- There are people in my church i don't like, and what the lord's
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- Taught me over time is that most frequently what i don't like in
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- Them is actually something in me, and so when i go to the lord
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- And begin to pray, he'll do work in me that changes how i
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- See them.
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- And if you look at the fifty-something one another's in
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- Scripture, one of them is tolerate one another.
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- Like, the lord just knew like there's gonna be brother, you
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- Just gotta tolerate that brother.
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- Like, you ain't gonna be best friends, you ain't going on
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- Vacation, but you can tolerate him.
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- And i've just learned people are so quick, they don't give
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- Belonging a chance.
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- They go to church, but they don't really belong to one, and
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- I think the biblical call to become like jesus is to belong.
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- Randy: here's the problem, and because i hear the same
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- Thing too.
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- People in church aren't perfect.
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- Some of them don't even act like christians or act like
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- Christians are supposed to.
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- What do you say to the person who maybe have like genuine
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- Observations, like these people don't, whatever?
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- Because a lot of them give up for some--i mean, the reason,
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- The particular reason might be valid, but your greater point
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- Is scripture.
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- What do you say to them?
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- Matt: well, one, i would wanna make some distinctions.
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- Like, if i'm sitting with them right now, we're having the--i
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- Wanna talk about what you're seeing.
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- I don't want you in some place that's destructive or abusive
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- Or toxic.
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- So if that's going on, get out.
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- Yeah, i don't care what other good thing might be happening
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- There, abusive, toxic, destructive, not difficult,
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- Difficult stay, destructive go.
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- And if that's what you're experiencing, i'm telling you to
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- Get out.
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- If you're just pointing at the normal hypocrisy of a human
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- Being, i would tell you praise god you would feel welcome
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- There right?
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- You're gonna feel welcome there.
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- Randy: there's room for one more.
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- Matt: that's right, like, if you're out there, and you
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- Haven't joined the community because you can't find a perfect
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- One, i would just say as soon as you showed up, you would ruin
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- The perfect one.
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- You better see yourself a little bit with a little bit more
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- Reality than maybe you are right now.
- 00:13:01.937 --> 00:13:04.306
- And so we're all, like who's batting 1,000 of us?
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- Man, i'm not.
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- You come too close to me, you'll see the lord's still got--he's
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- Got some things he's gotta shave off this brother.
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- Randy: and you're the pastor.
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- Matt: that's right, isn't that wild?
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- And so like nobody, or even like biblically this is true,
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- Historically this is true.
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- Like, i often think of peter.
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- So, you've got that acts 10 moment at cornelius's
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- House, what?
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- He's got the vision of the blanket, kill and eat.
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- Brother had that pork sandwich for the first time, you know,
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- Broke out in tongues, and then he's at cornelius's house, then
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- He's a part of, like even states it's illegal for me to do what
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- I'm about to do.
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- Then cornelius and his whole house converts to christianity.
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- Now we've got our gentiles moving, the kingdom of god fully
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- Breaking through.
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- But paul has to rebuke him all these years later in galatia
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- For what?
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- For being a racist.
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- How?
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- He had a vision from god, an angel of the lord spoke to
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- His face.
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- He was there when jesus was arrested, saw him crucified,
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- Touched his resurrected body, ate fish with the resurrected
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- Jesus over a smoky fire, right?
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- And then is used by the spirit, not just at pentecost, but to
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- Usher in the gentiles.
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- And then, you know, decades later, same old racism rearing
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- Its head in galatia.
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- Paul had to rebuke him to his face.
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- Like, you're like, okay, great.
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- If god can be patient with that, he can be patient with me.
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- Randy: that's the progressive sanctification that you're
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- Talking about.
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- All right, so what hope does the average person, me, blynda, the
- 00:14:32.561 --> 00:14:38.133
- Viewer, have to become like jesus?
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- Matt: well, i think your holiness and you becoming like
- 00:14:42.638 --> 00:14:46.375
- Jesus is fully paid for and available.
- 00:14:46.375 --> 00:14:49.478
- I think it's fully--i'm not thinking your holiness.
- 00:14:49.478 --> 00:14:54.583
- Both your positional holiness before the lord and the
- 00:14:54.583 --> 00:14:59.088
- Manifestation of that holiness in your life, paid for fully by
- 00:14:59.088 --> 00:15:03.359
- The blood of jesus christ, paid for in full, past, present, and
- 00:15:03.359 --> 00:15:07.062
- Future, fully, freely, and forever, done, paid for.
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- Spirit sealed in you with the promise so that you now have the
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- Power to begin to live into.
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- You just need to be patient with yourselves and repent quickly
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- And lean into difficult seasons and suffering, begin to see them
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- As normative, because they are.
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- They are for men and women in the bible, they are for
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- Everybody else, and if we didn't live in a moment where we could
- 00:15:30.486 --> 00:15:34.156
- Project this curated image of ourselves, we would actually be
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- More encouraged by just how much suffering is going on all
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- Around us.
- 00:15:40.596 --> 00:15:41.930
- Like, i pastor a church, there's so much pain out there, but
- 00:15:41.930 --> 00:15:46.602
- Nobody's willing to really talk about it.
- 00:15:46.602 --> 00:15:48.504
- They cover it up, like i said, with a curated image of
- 00:15:48.504 --> 00:15:52.508
- Themselves on instagram or tiktok or facebook or wherever
- 00:15:52.508 --> 00:15:55.577
- It is, but the reality is the world's filled with a lot of
- 00:15:55.577 --> 00:15:57.913
- Pain, and most people are carrying pain from something
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- Behind them or terrified of something in the future that
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- They think's coming for them, and, man, if we could begin to
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- Do that deep work, what happened back here, right?
- 00:16:08.057 --> 00:16:12.795
- We could understand that it's gonna take time to unravel and
- 00:16:12.795 --> 00:16:16.432
- Renew me, and then i need to find people who want this as bad
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- As i want it, and then i'm saying yes to them, and i know
- 00:16:21.370 --> 00:16:24.573
- They're gonna bother me, and i know i'm gonna bother them,
- 00:16:24.573 --> 00:16:26.442
- There's gonna be something in the sparks of that that
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- Produces transformation.
- 00:16:29.244 --> 00:16:30.813
- So, i don't care who you are, i don't care if you don't know a
- 00:16:30.813 --> 00:16:33.449
- Theological term, or you don't know where to open in your
- 00:16:33.449 --> 00:16:36.885
- Bible, if you are a christian, your holiness has been paid for,
- 00:16:36.885 --> 00:16:41.023
- And i want you to walk in the victory of it, and i want you to
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- Walk in the joy of it, because holiness brings these pictures
- 00:16:43.225 --> 00:16:46.528
- Of like sullen ashen faces, but like holiness, you should be
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- Dripping with the oil of gladness, like dripping with the
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- Oil of gladness.
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- Randy: that's encouraging.
- 00:16:55.971 --> 00:16:57.306
- We just have to let him do what he came to do, which is to make
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- Us more like him.
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- Matt: yeah, move near the fire.
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- That's the way i would often-- if i was preaching it, it's not
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- The way i wrote on it.
- 00:17:04.847 --> 00:17:06.348
- The way i would preach it is like how far are you from
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- The furnace?
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- Like, the only thing that i'm telling you to do is to get
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- Close to the furnace.
- 00:17:14.723 --> 00:17:16.258
- And the closer you get to the furnace, the more the things
- 00:17:16.258 --> 00:17:19.161
- That you want to change will begin to change.
- 00:17:19.161 --> 00:17:22.798
- Like, you've been around recovery, you've been around
- 00:17:22.798 --> 00:17:24.967
- Things like that.
- 00:17:24.967 --> 00:17:26.301
- You know, an alcoholic who manages the behavior but hasn't
- 00:17:26.301 --> 00:17:30.806
- Been transformed is going to be miserable and in a fight the
- 00:17:30.806 --> 00:17:33.342
- Rest of their lives, but the former alcoholic sealed with the
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- Spirit, in love with jesus, intimately situated there, not
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- Only has the discipline of not having the drink, but has been
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- Given a new heart.
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- Randy: doesn't want it.
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- Matt: yeah, and that's the freedom, and this is jesus's
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- Beef with the pharisees.
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- This is why he says to 'em, "you have heard it said, but i
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- Say," why?
- 00:17:54.596 --> 00:17:55.931
- Because he wants us, right?
- 00:17:55.931 --> 00:17:58.467
- Not just physical behavior.
- 00:17:58.467 --> 00:18:00.169
- We're not moralistic deists.
- 00:18:00.169 --> 00:18:02.437
- It's not what we believe.
- 00:18:02.437 --> 00:18:04.239
- The the thing that makes us unique is we're indwelt with the
- 00:18:04.239 --> 00:18:08.977
- Spirit of the triune creator god of the universe and that he
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- Loves us and is committed to transforming us over time.
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- Randy: that's great, that's great, and he's committed to
- 00:18:15.417 --> 00:18:17.486
- You, he's committed to you, to me, he's committed to you, and
- 00:18:17.486 --> 00:18:21.924
- If you want a little bit of just pushing you towards the furnace,
- 00:18:21.924 --> 00:18:26.195
- You can pick up "becoming like jesus."
- 00:18:26.195 --> 00:18:28.664
- In fact, i'd love to send it to you, and there's a way that we
- 00:18:28.664 --> 00:18:32.668
- Can do that.
- 00:18:32.668 --> 00:18:34.036
- It involves you kind of doing what jesus did, which is caring
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- For the poor.
- 00:18:37.439 --> 00:18:38.774
- Right now we feed about 350,000 children every day in the
- 00:18:38.774 --> 00:18:43.579
- Various mission feeding programs, but there are more.
- 00:18:43.579 --> 00:18:49.985
- It's hard to say, it hurts to say it, but if we don't respond,
- 00:18:49.985 --> 00:18:55.023
- If we don't maintain and in some places increase,
- 00:18:55.023 --> 00:18:59.161
- Those mothers will bury their children.
- 00:18:59.161 --> 00:19:02.598
- Blynda: i can't even, like, fathom how a mother--the biggest
- 00:19:02.598 --> 00:19:06.635
- Fear a mom has is that they would lose a child, and this--
- 00:19:06.635 --> 00:19:09.271
- These moms have experienced losing multiple children,
- 00:19:09.271 --> 00:19:13.408
- And it's so avoidable.
- 00:19:13.408 --> 00:19:15.310
- I think that's the thing that when i watch it i think oh my
- 00:19:15.310 --> 00:19:18.380
- Goodness, if we could just get there to help.
- 00:19:18.380 --> 00:19:20.249
- The urgency that is there, that if we can just help them, we can
- 00:19:20.249 --> 00:19:24.620
- Bring the aid that they need.
- 00:19:24.620 --> 00:19:26.021
- Randy: they've exhausted every ability they have in these
- 00:19:26.021 --> 00:19:31.093
- Situations where we go into it, and oftentimes it's drought a
- 00:19:31.093 --> 00:19:35.697
- Lot of times, you know?
- 00:19:35.697 --> 00:19:37.065
- It's just the weather has turned against them.
- 00:19:37.065 --> 00:19:39.601
- It's crops that have failed for various reasons.
- 00:19:39.601 --> 00:19:42.604
- They've worked hard to plant, and they expect that harvest.
- 00:19:42.604 --> 00:19:46.275
- They go--and it doesn't come.
- 00:19:46.275 --> 00:19:48.176
- And when they say if no help comes, we're afraid that we
- 00:19:48.176 --> 00:19:51.613
- Won't be here, we won't exist, that's the reality that they
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- Live in.
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- We're asking you today to come alongside of us and give them
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- Hope by giving them a simple bowl of food,
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- And it breaks down like this.
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- If you wanna help feed a child for the next several months,
- 00:20:05.560 --> 00:20:08.664
- $30 will help feed 3 children, $50 will help feed 5 children,
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- $100, 10 children, you see the pattern.
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- A $1,000 gift today would help feed 100 children for several
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- Months, and that's how we get them out of this cycle of
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- Desperation and poverty to give them a hope and a future.
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- So, yes, i'm asking you to give them a bowl of food today.
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- Make the absolute best gift that you can.
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- Randy: i do hope you'll go online or go to the phone
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- Right now.
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- We need to hear from you.
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- It's so close to my heart that these children eat every day,
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- And it's because of you.
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- Thank you, and please continue.
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- And today, if you would like matt chandler's book, and i
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- Would highly recommend it, "becoming like jesus," you can
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- Request that with any gift, we would love to send it to you.
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- And blynda, i know it's gonna bless people.
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- Blynda: thank you, matt, for joining us.
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- This has been--it's so good, and i'm so excited for this book
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- To come out.
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- Matt: thank you.
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- Randy: and we appreciate all of you guys joining us.
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- Join us every time, tomorrow, yesterday, because you can go
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- Online and see old shows, and we'll see you again next time on
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- "life today."
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- [music]
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- Joseph prince: that's what the power of right believing
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- Is all about.
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- You know, it's about focusing on jesus and his obedience.
- 00:23:02.838 --> 00:23:08.510
- You know, scripture says in romans 5:19, "by one man's
- 00:23:08.510 --> 00:23:11.613
- Disobedience, many were made sinners."
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- So that's adam's sin.
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- "by one man's obedience, many will be made righteous," okay?
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- So, sinners sin because they are sinners, okay?
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- We are not sinners because we sin.
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- We are sinners because adam sinned, all right?
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- So, adam's sin made us sinners, therefore we sin.
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- Now, by the same token--it sounds so unfair, doesn't it?
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- But by the same token--this is the divine unfairness,
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- All right?
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- By one man's obedience, we are made righteous, okay?
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- And when we believe that, it does not produce licentiousness.
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- It produces right--i always say this, right believing produces
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- Right living.
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- How come it that sometimes, you know, we have more faith in what
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- Adam has done than what jesus has done?
- 00:24:00.462 --> 00:24:02.964
- For example, when we were sinners, we knew, we were
- 00:24:02.964 --> 00:24:05.500
- Taught, we were we were preached to and all that that you cannot
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- Save yourself by good works, all right?
- 00:24:08.003 --> 00:24:10.605
- Only christ can save you.
- 00:24:10.605 --> 00:24:12.707
- In other words, what the first adam did was so powerful that we
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- Cannot undo it by our good works.
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- No matter what good you do, you are still a sinner.
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- You need to be born again.
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- But now that we are saved and we are made righteous by that one
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- Man's obedience, how come sometimes, all right, when we
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- Sin or we fall, okay, they tell us that now you are unrighteous,
- 00:24:29.891 --> 00:24:34.563
- You need to get right.
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- In other words, i can undo what jesus did just in one day, by
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- One act, whereas, when i was a sinner, i can't even undo what
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- Adam did, you know?
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- And we're not even talking about the much more of the book of
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- Romans, the much more of what jesus has done.
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- We are putting them both on the same ground, and we don't even
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- Have enough respect and appreciation for what jesus has
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- Done.
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- And believing right will always produce right because the
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- Essence of the gospel is the just shall live by faith.
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- Or i can say it like this, the just shall live by right
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- Believing.
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- There's a lot of preaching on right living, right living, and
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- We all want right living.
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- But how to get there from here, all right?
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- Right believing.
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- We need to get right believing in our hearts and our thoughts,
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- And one of the best ways is to know that as he is, so are we in
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- This world, you know?
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- And i've got people who are bad tempered and on addictions, and
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- The book has a lot of testimonies of many from
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- America, especially those who are--you guys are quite a mess
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- Up.
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- James robison: no greater truth ever spoken.
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- Joseph: and the thing is that many of the testimonies are on
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- Freedom from addictions: drugs, eating disorders, depression,
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- And especially pornography, sexual sins.
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- I got a young man from new york who shared that, you know, he's
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- Trained in the martial arts, so he understands discipline.
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- But he has been hooked to pornography ever since he was
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- 13, and now he's in his 20s.
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- And he says that, "i used my discipline and willpower to
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- Overcome it, it got worse," all right?
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- "but when i began to confess and believe that i am the
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- Righteousness of god in christ," all right,
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- "'father, i thank you.
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- You have made me righteous in christ,' and even in the midst
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- Of my sin, i would say that," all right, "i would confess it."
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- He says that "now," he wrote to me, "pastor prince, just let you
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- Know that it's been more than a year or longer than that."
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- He says, "i've not watched pornography ever since.
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- No desire to."
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- Now, and he says he's a testimony to what grace can do.
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- James: that's huge.
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- In the light of his glory and grace, the things of the world
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- Grow strangely dim.
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